What's the furthest you want in an astral projection? I once reached another planet which was earth - like. Another was literally on Mars.
>inb4 just dreams
No I can distinguish my dreams from astral projection easily
I've sometimes been able to hover over other sleeping people and push my head into theirs to see what kind of things they were dreaming about at the time .
Also, try astral projection on your stomach for a dimensional shift
Etheric projection is when you project mentally into "this reality". So you could see what color my shirt was ect.
People who say they Astral project and see people sleep, or even their own body in bed, are lying or dreaming.
The experiences can actually be rather traumatic. Like taking Acid or dmt
I never actually realized there was a difference. I supose I need to read more into it. Most of these experiences were corroborated by the people whose dreams I got into, and I've actually been able to resolve certain mental issues people were having at the time. I never went far in those cases, just to neighbor's houses.
As far as the dimensional shifts, I can't really prove they weren't dreams, but they were completely unlike any other dream experience, and only happened when using astral projection techniques on my stomach.
Farthest I've ever been was the far edge of our solar system shit gets weird at that point. Also Mars is creepy as hell with the dead silence. Has the feel like it was full of life that was wiped away.
Please tell me more.
Tried to learn how to astral project but after a few tries I felt like I was going insane or losing my mind(kind of hard to explain) so I stopped, mostly for fear of losing contact with "the real world".
I can say with absolute certainty that astral projection can be taken "too far" if you're not careful. If you're concerned, try to find a medium who can communicate with your spirit guides, and ask their permission before you try anything serious. I know that things like astrological events, solar flares, and earth's magnetic field can all have an affect. I also believe that each person has specific astrological conditions that can affect their astral projections in lots of weird ways.
Mars, and the beings that reside there, are not psychical in the sense that we're used to, and are totally comfortable integrating parallel realities into their daily lives. Try going back there, it's not as dead as you might think.
I'd recommend using daily meditation to build up your inner "white light", and try to communicate with them on your own time by yourself if you have doubts about mediums. That's a fundamental step to astral self defense anyway, and shouldn't be skipped.
I know, it's funny how they can share you memories. One of them shared his memories of how Mars' atmosphere got wiped out. It was bigger and more beautiful like Earth at the time. Venus also used to have a civilization, but they extracted ressources at a way bigger scale than you can imagine. I also visited Andromeda which is different in a way from the milky way. If you like loneliness, try it there. There is literally nothing, not even a demon or entity.
Is the astral world in some way related to the dream world? What kind of entities/dietists/whatever will I encounter? Can I be trapped in the astral world? Is the astral world in some way entangeled to our "real" world? If yes can the entities still interact with me even though Im in this world?
>Is the astral world in some way related to the dream world? What kind of entities/dietists/whatever will I encounter? Can I be trapped in the astral world? Is the astral world in some way entangeled to our "real" world? If yes can the entities still interact with me even though Im in this world?
1- yes, but barely
2- depends on what realm/plane/galaxy you're in. But don't worry about negative encounters you can always prevent them by concentrating your will
3- Yes, if you die or get possessed. If you ever get possessed ( which might happen at the beginning very unlikely though) try accessing the demon's dreams and manipulate hum into astral projection. Then take possession of your body.
4- Yes, but only some people have access to it without astral projection like priests. They can only show shadows of themselves.
Thanks for answearing, just a few more questions if you dont mind.
>Depends on what real/plane/galaxy
Well, let's say earth and our solar system?
And Carlos Castaneda, what are your opinion on him? Is he just bullshitting/drugged by shamans or lying?
The astral world is a layer or more above the dream world.
If you're curious about exploring things in a new way, try chilling out and meditating once you get to the astral plane. You just might find yourself in the halls of the lower deities, but there are certain rules and etiquette you have to follow there, or you might have a harder time reaching it in the future.
You see a lot of activities like demons other are good ones. Demon isn't the right word as they're not that powerful. Also Venus and Mars used to have life, which still roam not in their form but in astral form. Most of the evil entities you'll find on Earth can be "wannabes" if you'd like and can be swept easily.
>The astral world is a layer or more above the dream world.
Can you elaborate on this?
>If you're curious about exploring things in a new way, try chilling out and meditating once you get to the astral plane.
Yeah I have tried to astral project a few times but for some reason things got a little wierd and I felt that I was losing my mind or that evil things where attacking my head when I was sleeping/dreaming, kind of hard to explain and maybe it was just my psyche playing tricks on me.
I lucid dream every night. I try astral projecting and shifting to my body and leaving Earth but I always get stuck in the atmosphere. Plz help. I really want to see other civilizations. I am a Cancer by the way if that matters.
To get somewhere you just have to think about it and imagine yourself there. As for Mars, it's weird to say the least. Black holes I'm not sure for all of them but I went near sagittarius a near our galaxy's core. It gave me headaches and uncontrollably crying and other symptoms. Not enjoyable and can cause you to lose connection with your body
Yeah I have been experiencing sleep paralysis ALOT more the last two years, especially the last year.
Before I never got it, now it's kind of normal, but I can get different ones.
Sometimes someone is standing in my room watching me, sometimes something is hovering above me and just last night I felt something laying down next to me (was facing the wall with my back to the room so never saw anything just felt it against my back) and I can't move until I try really REALLY hard and then I wake up and the bad feeling goes away and everything seems normal.
You are sure this is nothing to be concerned about?
>I would consider doing an exorcism in your house
Are you sure? Because in this time I have lived in 5 different houses or apartments(including this one) and three of them was in another country, but these things comes and goes, sometimes frequent sometimes very rare, but I am very sure I don't remember every time i get it.
How do I know if it's a spirit guide? Can I contact it somehow? And how do I know if I need to do an exorcism or something like that?
Well make your research first on a planet. Or just imagine yourself on a planet. This is how I found my first earth-like:
>was in astral projection
>thinking of jurassic park
>the scene when they first meet the dinosaurs
>remember every detail and sound
>open eyes and am on earth like
I don't really know if I can trust a medium, is there no other way? And priests dont perform excorcisms in Sweden, atleast I dont think so, never heard of it anyway. The church here is protestant, isn't exorcism kind of a cathollic thing?
>I once reached another planet which was earth - like. Another was literally on Mars.
WTF literally me too both on the same night. The Earth was a twin Earth with extra gravity(people could walk down the sides of deep hills) and a lot of wind that I could see physically swirling around me.
My preferred method is to keep a clear mental picture of yourself sleeping in your bed in the back of your mind. Just try to keep that image in your back pocket until you want to go back, and then put all your focus into your body. It's not like you'll get stuck out there if you don't use a return method, but I find I have a much better sleep if I do
You keep answering questions extremely vaguely. You didn't answer one question in any detail, and one you didn't answer at all. What did the mars aliens look like? I'm not trying to be an asshole but it's hard to take you seriously when you're as vague as fortune cookies.
The problem is that Mars entities are highly aware of the different realms, and can see astral travellers plain as day. They choose how they look to us at any given time, so going with a specific visual description is pointless. They can see our thoughts and memories orbiting around our heads and in our auras, so they know exactly what imagery would have the lowest impact on our psyche when we see them
When an earth individual visits a martian, it's basically like they're meeting a monkey and communicating with sign language.
I think people are too obsessed over Mars entities. Try visiting Venus instead! They're so much more accommodating to astral travellers, and will treat you like a welcome guest as long as your heart is full of love.
Is it ever okay to bring other people? I keep syncing to my loved ones on accident and morally question everything about it. They speak like a radio when in sleep paralysis and can say anything I'm listening to nearby, it scares everyone involved and I don't know if it's some kind of form of astral projection?
I mean I didn't went through the WHOLE galaxy, but it's more lifeless than the milky way. Btw I astral projected last night and went to Andromeda. There are some life but more like vegetation. Also a blue sunrise is pretty beautiful
The amount of sudden shit posting is intriguing but not very relevant.
Hey all, I just wanted to share the idea that your shape(body) in the astrals is fluid, try experimenting some time with increasing your own size to the size of the galaxy or change your shape to two or more sepperate shapes or even the act of having no astral body. This knowledge launches you like a rocket to very interesting experiences such as being the sun, talking with the galaxy and later abd also experiencig being someone of something else.
I'm too scared to try to astral project cuz I have sleep paralysis
Sleep paralysis is a door to astral projection, the easiest door to find. When you get used to AP through sleep paralysis you can learn to skip the sleep paralysis stage. It's very difficult to skip the sleep paralysis state to start off with because it's like you need to find out certain senses. Try the afterlife knowledge guidebook if you want to attempt that way, I had a little bit succes with that but I need to train more
>related to AP
You're all so fucking stupid. They have nothing to do with each other, just like lucid dreaming is just self-induced hallucinations, but you faggots have to have everything be some supernatural gift.
>people are talking about something I never experienced
>its a lie
I wanted to say, try for yourself but learning it takes a lot of time which you probably do not want to spend on it. A few people at the monroe institute claim to have met eachother in the astrals and now know for sure it is real. You can try to convince us it is not, but we are determined enough to find it out for ourselves.
Also, it's not a gift, anyone can do it, if you follow the workshop from Bruce Moen you can learn it in 3 days, if you join The Monroe Institute you can learn it in a week and become extremely advanced if you follow it for a few more weeks.
I've traveled through the mental plane many times. I generally visit nearby forests but most of the time I focus on the atoms in me and I feel the histories of where they have been. Most of the time I feel sensations of movement like wind, water but other times I feel animals, plants. If I really go back I feel extreme heat like the earth core or feel like a body floating in space. I prefer to connect to the places "my" atoms have been through.
Projection is an internal experience, your soul is not approaching a physical black hole if you see one. Its a very vivid hallucination. I don't want to hear "it wasn't a hallucination" because that's what everyone who hallucinates says, and how would you distinguish a powerful hallucination from reality anyway?
If it was real, we would have had people report the heart-shape on Pluto before the pictures were taken to prove the legitimacy of external projection. Or visit any number of of other places in the solar system, like the surface of Mars, to report things unknown before discovered by Nasa, only to be proven true later.
The furthest i got in astral projection was my driveway when i was 15
but then I turned around and went back in to go back into reality
But i ended up in my liiving room seeing a form of myself I think.."
I know it was probably not me considering the fact that whatever this was...
turned around and saw me.. It opened its mouth like a monster straight out of a book and its teeth
I'll never forget its teeth and what happened..
it turned around and opened its mouth it had razor sharp teeth it looked like shark teeth or someshit like that..
as it did this there was this eerie noise that came from it and the noise got louder and louder and it got darker and darker in the surrounding area..
it started reaching for me but of course i went into survival mode and ran back for my body
I turned around before I went back to reality and it was right there making that eerie noise of what sounded like nails on a chalkboard is the best description i can give.
I went back to reality and woke up and looked around and walked outside and idk what it was but the streets we're dark as fuck almost like an abyss except for the street lights and the house lights.
I dont know what i saw but I dont even try to go back there anymore after that.
>inb4 a nightmare.
naaaa It felt wway to real to be a dream. I felt how cold it was outside it had to have been below 40 degrees
I live in south florida and its always humid and hot no matter what time of day
I still ponder onto what it was i saw though..
What you've seen can be an embodiment of your own fears and negativity which you have to become at peace with to open yourself up for more intense experiences.
Some other anon had an experience where he was hanging above a group of dogs, slowely being lowered into the dog pit until he felt them eating his face. He decided just to hang through it and suddenly the dogs were gone and he was experiencing a bliss like never before. He was at some kind of landscape, I don't know anymore
I don't believe in the classic demons because I've never experienced something that actually did harm aside from psychological. Even when I'm cut into pieces and fed to pigs there's still nothing wrong with me physically. And I'm not the only one because in the 45 years of out of body experience research at the monroe institute, nobody ever got hurt physically, only psycholigically.
That doesn't even look like a heart in that photograph. There is nothing whatsoever anyone would say to you that you'd believe because you're an autistic cunt and any info that challenges you makes the bad smell in your big boy pants.
>Post in my skinwalker thread you big meanies!!! Stop talking about things I don't want you to talk about!!!
Fuck off, you're not in mommy's hugbox now. How is lucid dreaming and astral projection not a valid topic exactly?
how does one differentiate lucid dreaming from astral projection?
in one occasion, i left my body quite abruptly after a sleep paralysis, almost flinging to my rooms floor, floating yet still in a paralyzed state. slowly i floated through my wall to the streets, but then the realism wore off and it became a normal lucid dream.
not astral projection, but i repeatedly visit another planet in my dreams (over a hundred times over the course of 5 - 6 years). not in this galaxy. it's a very dark planet.
its surface is black with a lot of bioluminescence that comes commonly in the colors of red and green, and rocky formations, similar to coral.
at first glance, the planet seems baron - empty. but there is sentient beings. im not really sure if they're solid mass or if they're incorporeal but ive seen them.
the planet has a very eerie presence to it; almost demonic. if anyone has any questions ask away
However, it might be that they never encounter demons because they set certain intents to meet only entities who's knowledge is equal or greater than themselves. If the demons often have less knowledge they never meet them because of that intent.
>If astral projection were scientifically proven to be real
I don't know, Anon. Venus is weird. There's no sign of tectonic plate boundaries, but then the general age of the surface is said to be about 100 million years old, suggesting intense volcanic activity. Of course, according to scientists. I'm an ignorant peasant, but they might be ignoring the effects of erosion produced by its thick atmosphere.
Tell us more about Venus, Anon.
There's a kind of a cable that connects your astral body to your physical body. The presence of the cable is one of the marks of true astral projection.
There are two ways to be trapped there.
One reported feature (I never tried astral travel) is a complete disregard for your body "here". There are so many interesting things there, you might be unwilling to come back. Something must be causing some of those comatose cases, right?
The other way (I don't know if this is possible during astral projection) is to get that connection cable severed, something that happens when your physical and etheric bodies die.
Disclaimer, I have been reading about this subject for the last couple of years, there can be gross errors in it. Those in the know, feel free to shoot those down.
You should filter threads if you really don't like certain subjects, like anyone should do. Beware the trappings of contemplation, Anon. If you don't like something, ignoring it is the best thing to do, unless you want to get suckered into it.
Mh, I never saw a silver cord. I also never saw myself lying down in bed.
In fact, when I went out of body and looked on my Bed, no one was lying there. I just walked around my flat normally and thats it.
Hm, I did drop out of body though. And I could not see neither my body, nor my parents in the living room, nor a silver cord. I couldn't fly or anything as well. Just wandered the place.
But I did drop out of bod via the normal process, vibrations and such.
The silver cord is a metaphor for the fact that you can always return to your body. If you're seeing the silver cord it's a creation generated by yourself often thanks to stories about the silver cord. It's not there if you don't believe it to
anybody ever been to the moon
i heard you're not supposed to go there and if you do some bad shit happens