>>17327549 Yes. It took longer than I expected and their entire life went to shit before it finally happened. It was a group effort and it got rid of a person who was a stain on the earth with no purpose but to make other people miserable. When I heard the news, maybe 4 years later, I felt nothing. I still don't.
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
>>17327549 If this thread is still alive I am just going to warn you guys that this shit is real, it's no fun and games and if you do it you need to have you mind 100% focused in what you want the outcome to be. I committed a death spell on someone where I had no faith in it at all that it would work, I was angry and I was doing it for the sake of doing it. I wasn't really concentrating on it at the time and I ended up putting someone with the same name in a critical condition in hospital the next day. Coincidence, maybe. But it was so unusual and unexpected that it only seemed like it was because of the spell that was meant to happen to someone else. I haven't tried Magick for a while now because of it.
Most notably, I used a curse outlined in the Greek Magical Papyri to make a defixio (curse tablet) against someone who had significantly wronged me in the financial realm and buried it in a cemetary. The person I cursed had his business fail and he and his family fell in to poverty. I reside firmly in the middle class. Overall a successful magickal operation, in my opinion.
>>17331739 It's hard to avoid the temptation of wrath when justice so clearly fails.
That alone is a major reason why violent populism is on the rise in the US right now. Elections are a form of justice that people feel they are being deprived of. Meritocracy seems dead. Back before the depression, our grandfathers lynched a judge who was corrupt because they felt deprived of justice.
That anon isn't subhuman, just weak and angry. Like a cornered animal. He failed to perceive any karmic justice so he took matters into his own hands.
Someday he'll probably realize why that was a mistake, but I think some empathy is due. The world isn't a nice place, at least when you look at it from the surface. LHP always seemed to me to be a practical response to an observed condition. I don't endorse it but I can understand the temptation. For the man who has had the boot of power on his face his whole life, wearing the boot for a change might seem like a great liberation.
>>17331797 In my years, I've come a great deal in terms of understanding magic. I know now that magic stems from life, and that all life is sacred, and that it is truly subhuman to cast such judgement on another. We would never come all the way we did if we were lynching everyone we disagreed with. As you have said, the world is not a nice place. I agree with that wholeheartedly. But being able to use magic, we should strive to make it a better place, not to kill and harm others. I have walked many paths in my life, including the LHP which you identify with harm, and yes, I passed judgement. It took a literal bitchslap from YHVHs angels to turn from it. I dunno what I'm saying anymore, I'm just angry and ranting, sorry
>>17327549 I cursed a water bottle once. I filled it with dirt and then did a bunch of chanting and energy storing and stuff like that. Every night i would like try to shove negative emotions and stuff in it.
One of my classmates had a Halloween party, and while i was there, i hid it under her couch. Idk if it worked or not. Never really saw her after that party. Maybe she moved.
Id be willing to let someone put a death curse on me if anyone wants to try. I'm not suicidal so don't worry about that, I do have a deathwish however. Not going to give out any personal information, so there's the catch.
>>17334325 From my point of view, the LHP is the path that unlocks ones potential, because it puts the user in the center of the universe, while the RHP is the path that puts that potential to use by being in synch with the universe. Like in all things, there has to be a balance, and one can not walk only on of the paths, because if one doesn't know himself (LHP), how can he know the secrets of the universe (RHP).
Um, no. Not that guy but I'm always saying this as a means of honestly warning people. I've been attacked many times and every time I struck back by making use of the karma those people had. That's the only way to not get retribution yourself, because you only speed up what the universe would have done to them sooner or later. It just amounts to punishing a criminal, noone will interfer with it.
>>17334648 "Um," yes. It's easier if the enemy has bad karma and you know how to use it. But you're just proving my point. Your enemies are getting negative results for their badness not by some cosmic law, but because you are actively shipping it back.
Avoiding negative karma is mostly a matter of knowing how to avoid those ship-back attempts as well as having the skill to not misfire your own attacks.
>no one will interfere with it Ha ha, you haven't run into any bad people with friends yet?
>>17341090 For a quick analogy, It's like shooting with a homemade gun. It's NOT _inevitable_ that the thing will blow your own hand off, but it's certainly not impossible if you don't take precautions or you made it wrong.
Also, remember that your target may defend himself, and then you end up in a curse war or other magical battle. One of the biggest mistakes n00bs make is assuming that nobody else does into magic.
daily reminder karma doesn't actually exist, all that karma is doing is justifying their use of psychic attacks, if someone actually have bad karma you wouldn't need to use it against them it would already be acting against them well enough. What you are doing is targeting someone with a perceived sense of justice which helps a bit as belief is a strong component to psychic attacks, however this karma is just a construct of your mind, so everyone whiteknighting about that anon's using curses for revenge are basically doing the same fucking thing.
On a more philosophical level the entire idea of karma is completely contrary to the idea of evolution (unless you don't believe in that either) because we are the direct result of the most successful and violent creatures reproducing at the expense of all the others around them.
>>17346111 Honestly I haven't gotten as far as the other anon but by experiencing what I felt was truly magic, it inspired me such noble things. Learning to use magic is learning to play with the inner spark that we all share. It's much more better for everyone to just use that spark to make yourself and your surroundings a lil better.
I believe Austin Osman Spare said many things about magic, but I remember especially one sentence where he said that a man who dare claiming to be a magician but cannot put a smile on a child's face is no magician. Or something along these ligns.
>>17345852 >if someone actually have bad karma you wouldn't need to use it against them it would already be acting against them well enough. What you are doing is targeting someone with a perceived sense of justice which helps a bit as belief is a strong component to psychic attacks, however this karma is just a construct of your mind, so everyone whiteknighting about that anon's using curses for revenge are basically doing the same fucking thing.
Not at all. Karma has a delay. It is possible to avoid it all your life, then you end up in hell to pay for it. Karma is evil, so it is also lazy, it's not going after someone at the fastest speed. A person attacking someone with bad karma is actually acting out the karma - playing the role of universal retribution.
How exactly does one get into magic, or learn to start casting spells? The only answers I ever seen to get are "read some books" (with no indication if the books are bullshit or not, I'm sure there's a lot of crap out there), or "2mysterious4u".
Find wood of the ash or yew tree, and carve these runes into it. Ideally you'd want the line of runes itself on the bark, while the triple sided thurs would remain on the weather-lines part of the tree. (Don't know technical terms and too lazy to look them up, apologies.)
You could carve the name of the victim into the bark, and then carve the runes over the name, effectively crossing it out, but this is unneeded.
For best effect, add blood to the triple sided thurs.
Then bury the piece of wood, with the runes inscribed on it, in a cemetery or place of rot/disgust. A trash pile would work.
The entire process over, have the victim in your mind's eyes.
During a drunken stupor I broke it out of remorse and shame. those few months sure we're shitty for her. She flipped her car and totaled that bitch. got her dog taken away by the police when they saw it out in the rain, had to move twice, Got her hair destroyed at some salon and became addicted to meth. This was all in the period of 3 months or so?
I normally just do charms but I had never been as angry as when I'd caught her cheating so I let her have it, I kept the image of her suffering with glee in my minds eye but like I said earlier I broke it out of remorse.
My mom and her twin are pretty proficient at cursing people, all they need to do is say it and it happens. My mom said my uncle should drop dead, 3 days later the guy falls off the porch drunk broke his back and punctured a lung. All her shitty exes. Wade: copd/ other lung diseasesI can't spell/ heart problems sudden on sets of all. Don: went to jail for being a pedo, now he gets it in the ass eachday. Gene: went from making 6 figures a year as a english professor in Japan to selling ice in Vietnam then he went to prison and we never heard from him again.
This is anecdotal, but when I dabbled in the occult as a young /b/tard I got angry because I got screwed over by a crack whore (I know she was a crack whore because she made me go with her to get crack before giving me head). She gave me head and it was supposed to be $20 but all I had was $100 bill, and being a kissless loser virgin she scammed it all, bought crack with it right then and there. Fuck I was such a loser. That was the first time a woman had ever touched my penis, and I was 18.
So, later, in a fit of anger because of my loser self lying to my friends about what happened (telling them I got laid for the $100 and shit so I wouldn't look any more pathetic than I already did) I put a curse on her that the spirits and powers would drag her to the parking lot I was standing in at the time covered in blood.
And then in my massive faggotry I completely forgot about it. Kept up the lie to my friends about getting laid, typical loser shit. Months go by and I'm out taking a walk and this black car pulls up to the parking lot, the one I cast the curse at, the passenger door gets opened, and this dude kicked the crack whore out of his car covered in blood, having beaten the fuck out of her because she had a disease or something. (I've been tested since then, must have been my luck that I didn't press for more than head for my $100, cos 2 tests over the next several years all came back negative)
She screamed for help because she was in pain from the beating he gave her, so I ran to the nearest payphone and called 911.
I told her and she freaked out. She ran back to her house (which I knew where it was because thats where she did the deed) and when the cops showed up (I don't know why they didn't send an ambulance, I told them a woman was laying bleeding in the street.)
They went to her house and fucking arrested her for possession.
Never saw her again.
Swear to FSM that this story is as truly told as I remember it.
I used to experiment with sigils quite a bit and became interested in how powerful they can be. I used my own technique for sigils so I just wrote [persons name] + [death] and turned them into an unrecognizable symbol. Charged it casted it. 2 or 3 weeks later he died from pneunomia. Don't know if it was coincidence or not, you never know with sigils.
4What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 5And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. 7I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
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