/x/, machu picchu. fucking, why? no mortar? why was the site

>>17308626
I'm sure there must be documentaries on YouTube that can answer those questions.

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>>17308626
> why?
Because of an ice age in South America

> no mortal?
Because they had the knowledge about resonance and was able to make stones light and gummy

imo

>>17309622
> why abandoning?
after the ice age the population was growing

i would disagree
i would say at the time of macchu picchu
all the humans were living in the ocean basins (pre-flood/deluge)
the ayys built an ape farm at the top of the toppest most niggerdly dangerous mountains
through the thickest niggardly jungle thicks
that we could never get to

>1500's
>ice age

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>>17309630

>>17309631
I would say machu piccu is older than 20'000 years, maybe much much older. And the location was repopulated many times.

>>17309637
Well, seeing as you say so, it must be.

>>17308626
>fucking, why?
King's vacation home.
>no mortar?
Correct.

Or are you asking why? Because the answer to that is because the fault line the thing is built on would render mortar worse than useless.
>why was the site abandoned?
Because the Spanish set the king on fire. Ashes don't need a vacation home.

>>17309704
This anon gets it. The only mystery is how they got those stones up there, and that's not even really a mystery. Slavery gets shit done.

>>17309710
When you're at the top of a mountain there's a lot of rubble. The stones were already there.

>>17309704
HOW are the stones so precise then? there was no way there could have carved them to fit perfectly like they do

>>17309719
What are you trying to get at here?

>>17309719
And what's stopping them from carving stones to fit together? You trying to say it was ayy lmaos?

>>17309719
>there was no way there could have carved them to fit perfectly like they do

Sure there is.

>>17309719
You would be suprised at what humans can accomplish

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>>17309723
>>17309725
>>17309728
>>17309733

the people that supposedly build machu picchu didnt even have the wheel. they didnt even have metal tools. to say they could build machu picchu without help is just plain stupid.

>>17309753
So aliens, right?

>>17309755
what else then? tell me how they could have done it alone.

I dont get why people find it impressive, it's literally just a bunch of stairs. No surprise that everyone shilling Machu Pichu is usually some form of Cultural Marxist lol

>>17309759
>Cultural Marxist lol
Completely irrelevant.

>>17309757

I saw a documentary about this, years ago; they take the rocks, see how they need to fit together, and then (this is the clever bit) they bash them with harder rocks until they fit together the way that they want.

It's fucking amazing, is what that is.

>>17309753
ya this.
one of the stone slabs at the site is allegedly 16 tons

>>17309761
It's quite relevant. Anyone who thinks that Machu Pichu was some sort of accomplishment is either a shill or delusional.

>>17308626
It was abandoned because of the flood

>>17309637
Nothing on earth I'd older than, like 6000 years old. Or so.

>>17309770
have a look at pic >>17309753

there is no way you can get stones to fit that precisely by bashing them with other rocks

>>17309783

Sure you can.

>>17309780
Go the fuck away you moron.

>>17309791
Atheist!

>>17309795
Or some one who isn't an idiot.

>>17309808
>implying

>>17309637

And what do you base stunning conclusion upon?

Dramatic photos of the site found online?

>>17309622
>Because they had the knowledge about resonance and was able to make stones light and gummy
Yes, we lost this ancient mystic technology over the last 500 years.

>>17309627
>>17309637
Don't be a fucking idiot.

Evidence suggests that Machu Pichu's construction was finished around the 1450's, it's doubtful that it's even 1000 years old, let alone twenty times that.

>>17309815
>trolling

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>>17309622
>Because they had the knowledge about resonance and was able to make stones light and gummy
Must be. There are a lof stones that looks like they have been cut like butter.

>>17309783
you can do it by grinding them with other rocks

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>>17310063
Can you not see the sanded away stone.
Tool Grind markings along the stone...
Do you guys not even try?

>>17309757
They could manipulate objects with there chanting or instruments which produces the resonance to alter the state of objects, stones getting light and gummy. Ancient civilisations was much smarter then are today.
http://youtu.be/17tqXgvCN0E

>>17310728
They were smarter than you at least.

>>17310749
That's for sure! And I take it as a compliment that you think that I'm smart! But you are just an ant, what will you know?

>>17310792
You are a grade a retard, kid.

>>17310807
Again true, but still infinite!

>>17308626

Kang doesn't like the damp shitty lowland so he makes his vacation town on a mountain top, whith servants moving there. After they got shrekt it was useless and hard to access so it got abandoned

>>17310826
Do you even understand the words you are using?

>>17310699
Here is what I would do to make it look like pic.

I would grind off some stone from the same stone material. Take that and grind it some more and add it to some form of clay. Then heat it up and polish it to the surface of the stone.

>>17308626
Right now the general consensus, with some supporting evidence, is that very few people, if any, lived permanently at Machu Picchu. It was more likely a retreat, perhaps religious, probably upper class.

Now, as for the area. Peru is just a shitty place to life in that regard. Tectonic activity in the region is so off the charts what with volcanoes, earthquakes and such that to this day the locals engage in some pretty insane ritualistic behavior to try to keep the land around them from fucking them up. If you research, even now from time to time a building is torn down or excavated only to find the corpse or some hapless person killed and buried in the foundation to keep the building from being flattened.

So the likely culprit here is that the people that built Machu Picchu, but didn't regularly hang out there, finally decided to find some place less regularly lethal and, naturally, one of the first places to get abandoned was the remote resort it was a bitch and a half to visit anyway (at no point in its history has the hike to Machu Picchu ever been what most people would call 'fun'.)

>>17310972
i dont think so...
apes(us) live on the beach and near the fish
ayys live in the mountains past the thickest niggerdly jungle

i trained mma, a lot of mma fighters train at high elevation to get really ripped b/c of low oxygen levels
whatever lived there would have been buff as shit. and not a small south american (who are asian/eskimo)

>>17311060
I once came in an MMA fighter's ear.

>>17308626
>fucking, why?
Why not.
>no mortar
Apparently none.
>why was the site abandoned?
Spaniards decided to colonize south america thus endangering native american groups in the Americas.
>just wat
It's not that difficult to believe.
The only thing that's impressive about it is the height upon in which it was build.
People over different cultures have accomplished something similar with stones.
Not trying to downplay the accomplishment made by the Incas, just saying stuff like this can be found in other places.

>>17311091
Oh, well, shit. Yeah, apparently it's not even a mystery why it was abandoned. "Europeans."

Machu Picchu was supposed to be remote, It wasn't meant to be something enjoyed by all of Incan society and great effort was put into lining up it's construction with the rising and setting suns on equinoxes. It was likely abandoned because it became costly to keep resources flowing into Machu Picchu.

There is growing evidence that the pre-columbian's were very good at predicting earthquakes and a mortarless construction would have kept the site stable despite being on top of an unstable mountain. This is likely why the blocks are so tightly fitted, a mortarless construction actually grows tighter over time since the blocks can snugly pack themselves together over time.

>>17311138
Yea, and the sandman works for Santa. You are just a one trick pony.

>>17309622
Resonance?

>>17310915
Cazime sta ti radis ovde ?

>>17308626
If you turn your picture 180° Machu Pichu is a native face profile.

>>17309719

Why wouldn't they be able to?

Are you 12?

>>17311063

m or f

Were they aware and did they consent

Tell the story m8

>>17309753
>brown people can't do cool things hurrr durr
they had paths and slaves to transport the rocks, retard

all this time you spend on technology. Imagine it was gone and you had forever to build this city. I think you are underestimating the amount of free time/bordem these guys had. haha

>>17311441
I know if I didn't have distraction. I would probably have a garden and all kinds of stuff.

>>17311276
You have quite the imagination.

>>17311473
bordem is the key to anchient society.

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>>17311507
>anchient

>>17311179
well, mortarless construction is proven to work well in geologically unstable environments. Sociologically speaking, if a civilization can chart fucking starpaths then they likely had the minds available to the task of detecting geological instability or preventing devastation through advancements in archetecture. The Han dynasty in china had a seismoscope and that was 1000 years before Machu Picchu. It's not beyond my realm of belief that there were intelligent individuals within Incan society who would be capable of coming up with ways to analyze and respond to what would have been a fairly common natural disaster in their society, as far as natural disasters go.

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>>17311493
But it's true.

>>17311982
Creepy.

>>17311982
Now I'm wondering how much work was necessary to shape that mountain, and how much of the shape is natural.

>inb4 it's a shoop

>>17313126
thats spooky AF.

thats the 2nd time ive seen something like this in one week, there was a face like this last week. wtf

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If you believe modern archaeologists.

>>17310077
Double dubs don't lie.

Plus, that's an actual technique that was demonstrated in a documentary.

>>17310925

U bein trolled, brah. No one can be as retarded as that anon seems.

>>17311060
>small south american (who are asian/eskimo)
I thought I told you never to go full retard?

>>17311276
You have to crush it a bit too.

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>>17311982
>>17313126
It is indeed a shoop though.

Nice try.

>>17314080
It's not from the same angle. Different pics entirely.

>>17311414
This
Occam's razor guys

>>17314085
Hmm. What angle is it from then? From what angle would >>17314080 become >>17311982?

I eagerly await your explanation.

>>17311060
>apes live on the beach
LOL WHAT

>>17311060
>apes(us) live on the beach and near the fish
Yeah because apes totally aren't a jungle species

Because human intelligence and bipedalism totally didn't originate in the African savannah due to adapting to deforestation

Try again though

>>17314333
i doubt it they couldnt figure out to planet a potatoe in 5000 years and are still starving.

>>17314093
about 30degrees to the right :D

>>17314516
Hmmm...

Nope, doesn't do it.

>>17311060
I am extremely impressed by how much can be incorrect in one post...

>>17308626
Let me ask you something.
Why was Detroit abandoned?

>>17314960
>Why was Detroit abandoned?
Ghosts?