Anyone familiar with cryptic (York rite,) Freemasonry

>>17270979
Familiar with the former (American Rite is the proper term), but not so much gematria or sacred geometry.

>>17270979
Bump>>17270979

>>17270979
Okay so what you got?

Lie down a question you cannot expect somone to teach you every number.

>>17270979
Yup, lurking, in case you get around to posting queries.

What can I say I have a prejudice centralized around a certain subject for a particular reason that is not hateful.

>>17275105
Well, actually:

http://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgemat.htm
http://numberman.net/

Bonus round for those unfamiliar with the York Rite:
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/ritualen_en.html
^About an eighth of the way down, just scroll or use ctrl+f.

1369 and its relation to John 1 Genesis 1

>>17270979
Sacred geometry is only geometry.
Except, how did we ever even evaluate irrationals? How did we come to understand their value?

>>17276398
>1369
Pulls nothing on Heidrick's index...1370, however, pulls:
>Astoreth (Phoenician goddess worshiped by the Israelites and the Philistines along with Baal. The name is akin to that of the planet Venus as ReshTawSamekhAleph (661), and may signify "the fair one".)

1369 also pulls fuckall on Numberman, for Hebrew, but for GREEK, we get...
>Αφανιζω, To Cause to Vanish
>Ενεδρευω, To Prepare A Trap

Make of those what you will.

>>17276413
As far as sacred geometry isn't the 37/73 triangle significant? and thank you

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>>17270979
I remember looking this word up when Slipknot released Gematria-the killing name. I remember something about it relating to the tetragrammaton. The 72 letter for God. Something about spoken forward it invokes life, backwards death.

Am I even remotely close? Cause I remembering not knowing what the fuck I was reading after looking up a fucking song that I liked.

>>17276618
Not really; gematria is very simple, each letter in Hebrew (or Greek) is assigned a letter. You add up the letters and get a value. Traditional Hebrew mysticism teaches that words of the same value will have tight relationship with one another.

See:
>>17276413
>>17275150

>>17276618
>http://numberman.net/
probably refers to the 72 names of God found in the bible

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>>17276661
>>17276672
See. This is the shit right here that makes /x/ an alright place to hang. You make a shit post like I did and instead of getting blasted you get informed.

No idea how this relates to the song but corey taylor is a weird fuck anyway. Thanks for letting me derail the post a bit.

>>17270979
6 sided star
6 days war
6 million killed (lie)

>>17270979
Byblos, the first city of Phœnicia, founded by Chronos, Oldest buildings in Egypt made with Cedar timbers from Byblos. Refers back to the 2nd section 3*. Cryptic degrees are from Scottish Rite so there is a Jacobite allegory in there somewhere, and a feeble attempt to unite the various Abrahamic faiths against the more "Idolatrous" ones.

19 35 645

For Numerology, you want the Royal Arch of Enoch. It's repetitive and obvious.

>>17270979
It's just an old boys club.

>>17278123
>Cryptic degrees are from Scottish Rite
A bit, yes.
>so there is a Jacobite allegory in there somewhere,
Wait, whut.
>and a feeble attempt to unite the various Abrahamic faiths against the more "Idolatrous" ones.
And now pants on head.
>For Numerology, you want the Royal Arch of Enoch
Not really. Even in the A&AR there's one a bit closer to numerology, but that's still not where you'd get it under Masonry.

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>>17278123
>http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/ritualen_en.html
>Royal Arch
>Of *Enoch*
>does not appear in the list of rituals

>Royal Arch of York Rite
>http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/r/iowara_r.html
>ctrl+f Enoch
>zero hits

>Loyal Orange
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/orange_r3.html
>ctrl+f Enoch
>zero hits

>Knights of the Royal Arch
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/knightsra_r.html
>ctrl+f Enoch
>zero hits

>Exaltation of the Holy Royal Arch
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/ovokg_re.html
>ctrl+f Enoch
>zero hits

>Holy Royal Arch of the Templar Priests
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/ovohraktp_r.html
>ctrl+f Enoch
>zero hits

C'mon, dude.

>>17278191
This is all knowledge ive studied intensively to say the least.

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Damn I hate when my keyboard does that.

>>17278199
?
Can you get less coherent?

>>17278203
Depends.

>>17278191
It's Royal Arch of Enoch in some A&AR jurisdictions. That list isn't anything like complete. Similar degree in most, but personally, the American way of doing it isn't that great.
Ours has it about discovering the arched temple Enoch built to house the Ineffable Name, and taking it back to the Sanctum Sanctorum.
It's roughly covered in the other systems, but they have a lukewarm version in their Cryptic degrees.

>>17278226
>in some
You got a handle on where, exactly?

>not complete
Oh, I'm well aware, given the thousands of bodies doing god-knows-what.

Huh, and here I thought it was the ninth arch under Solomon's ruined temple.

>>17278233
As far as i know, the A&AR for Australia does it, which i *think* means England and Scotland would too, as well as possibly Ireland.
American Southern Jurisdiction doesn't, nor does the wacky Northern Jurisdiction (but they have a submarine degree, so that makes up for it).
>Huh, and here I thought it was the ninth arch under Solomon's ruined temple.
That sounds more like the American Royal Arch, but i can't remember. Or it might be their Cryptic.

I have a feeling you'd get a lot of value out of the Grand College of Rites, since they publish and sell hundreds of rituals. If i ever get around to joining the non-paypal using bastards, I'll be sure to scan as much as i can.

>>17278245
Large chunks of my Mega library come from the Grand College of Rites, they're the only ones to publish M&M in the unredacted form where Yarker, for the most part, only gives grips and regalia and knocks, etc. They also did the volume I carry on Swedenborgian Rite, IIRC...but yeah, I'd fucking love to get in on those cats, but:
>Thelemite
>Relatively little interested in being a Freemason
>etc.

Ay, I've been looking for any info I can on "Holy Order of Wisdom", the US/UK quasi-split makes it harder because some of the degrees withing seem to have been shuffled around, while on HOoW's webpage it implies a full run of 30ish degrees.

Any insight would be appreciated.

>>17278263
Yea, i figured that'd be the caveat for ye.
>Order of Holy Wisdom
Yea, that would be a toughie. I think you'll have more luck with the American version, because the UK one goes
>Craft > HRA > KT > KTP (invite) > OoHW (stricter invite)
But i don't think it's the 33 degree one, that's HRAKTP in full, but they only work one. If i ever both to get to it, i'll let you know. But right now I'm focusing on Scarlett Cord, which just started up here.