>>17260650 She can sure babble on. But it sounds like she's almost saying that "magic" in it's traditional mythical sense isnt real. She goes on to describe actual "spellwork" as pretty much the same as the principles and practice of things like the "law of attraction" or "law of intention" as has been taught by eastern mystics for ages.
>>17260731 No it has been borrowed from ancient eastern mystic philosophies and "interpreted" down through time into western new agism for over a hundred years. Ong other sources, Deepak chopras 7 fundamental laws or Manly P halls secret teachings of all ages. It's all in there in one flavor or another.
>>17260731 This is pretty much true. The "Law of Attraction" is a fairly self absorbed notion in which one takes personal credit for all the good in one's life. That sort of idea really only manifests among populations where the standard of living is sufficiently safe and pampered that a significant number of people are protected from any major worries by their society.
So for instance, when you live in a peaceful Western nation where public services provide you with schooling, protection, medical service, comfortable living, well developed economic, transportation, communication, etc. infrastructures then a good percentage of the population can go decades with no need to consciously worry about bandits, dangerous animals, serious disease, starvation, exposure, the list goes on. These people, are you see this in first world nations all the time in a billion flavors, start taking this all so much for granted that they become blind to it, and assume that somehow this save, easy life is all because of something they did.
You pretty much never find "Law of Attraction" style philosophies in any nation or culture where anyone has to put serious, daily conscious work into their day to day survival. Like, most of pre-industrial India or China, as an example, these are nations where even among the limited proto-middle class there was a constant need to worry about finances, health, banditry, destructive military action, even the state itself. These are people who remain aggressively consciously aware that danger and threat to them can loom up from outside sources at any minute and nothing about their frame of mind or spirit is going to change that, at all.
>>17260852 I never claimed that "they work" or not. Merely pointing out the conceptual ideas behind them existed in some ancient philosophies. No they aren't reffered to as "the laws of attraction" in the ancient systems, but if you've read even a little then you should have been able to connect the similarities. It takes an open mind and the thoughtful application of youre attention
>>17260906 Could you provide a solid and direct example, like the name of a specific system and then the particular dogma or philosophy within it that appears to reflect the Law of Attraction?
And please, please don't try to hide behind some stupid rejoinder like, "not going to SPOON FEED you," I have already researched this and I don't agree. I think you're wrong. But were you able to demonstrate some actual objective knowledge that backed up your claim, I would then realize I was wrong, and rethink my beliefs on the subject.
>>17260949 You're pseudo-intelectual attempts to derail this thread are quite shallow and predictable. While you are correct regarding the profit motives, you continue to ignore the truth of the sourc>>17260949 e of some of the ideas in his books
>>17260946 Eh looks like right now the thread's just you, me and one or two trolls acting in a typically belligerent, unimaginative and ignorant manner in an attempt to garner attention. Maybe later it'll pick up, suffice to say that I don't think we're about to see anyone provide any intelligent defense or support of ancient Law of Attraction philosophies in the immediate future.
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