What are some good ways to defeat Satan?
Not just the deities associated with Satan, how do we destory the aspect of this reality that is destroying the relationship between humanity and divinity?
You cannot destroy your opposite, just accept that you are as much God has Satan, enjoy being the devil and god at the same time, behind the light there is always darkness.
You experience this every day light and darkness.
Embrace it and overcome it.
That's stupid, said kill Satan not God. Defeat the forces opposite to God. A way to purge them completely of their existence, all hate and evil within them, all of their power finally losing all of its meaning.
this is the best place i can think of to start OP
beware of contentions and divisions and human folly. i think the safe thing is to stick to the bible, and to be slow to wrath and passing judgment
God be with you and your efforts always. He who is holy let him be holy still.
If you're a christian, you resist the devil, and he will flee from you. After all, greater is He Who is in you, than he who is in the world.
He's got limited time. He wants to steal, kill and destroy as many as he can, before his end.
The devil will never be destroyed; he will be confined in a lake of fire forever, in eternal torment.
Alas, how terrible is wisdom
when it brings no profit to the man that's wise!
This I knew well, but had forgotten it,
else I would not have come here
Don't avoid the evil
Embrace your goodness!
Don't waste a second tinking about evil, have a day embracing the Lords Work,
Be like Jesus Crist, be the better version of yourself , or at least try,nothing wrong with trying.
But don't feed evil by tinking about it .
I wish I could give you a solid answer or plan, but I'm not too experienced in that area and there's so many different ways to go about it. However, what seems to have worked for me (albeit rather slowly) is to walk out Jesus' love and show it as best I can by loving, forgiving, and serving people in my everyday life. I can tell it has made an impression on my friends (both Christian and non-Christian alike), and a few of my non-Christian friends have even asked me how or why I am the way that I am and I was able to share my testimony of God's love with them.
I'm sure it will be quite effective.
We have to rest and abide in Christ Jesus, and walk meekly and humbly with Him, because He is meek and humble.
He does not need our help to combat evil.
What is Satan or the Devil and how does he look like?
but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Are we talking about the title devil here or satan himself, because it seems to me that if Satan can start a war against god, god was better off "rebuking" him from the very start.
in the revelation prophecy given to john, satan is referred to as a dragon or a serpent
"He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. (Revelation 20:2)"
It is impossible to destroy evil without destroying good. Why do you think God allows satan to exist? Because he is an aspect of the balance of good and evil. If evil is purged so is free will and then with that everything becomes stagnant.
i think these things are beyond our understanding. here is what David says to God in the psalms
"Jehovah, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty; Neither do I exercise myself in great matters, Or in things too wonderful for me.
Surely I have stilled and quieted my soul; Like a weaned child with his mother, Like a weaned child is my soul within me.
O Israel, hope in Jehovah From this time forth and for evermore."
"Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy."
these things are to be known from the LORD rather than anons, who is faithful in you, and you have my word that He is faithful to show you
everyone's life is different. we are all individuals and God has a different purpose for each and every one of us. we all take our walk in the war in a different way.
the LORD says to us
"But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not: ye are of more value than many sparrows."
So really you guys are just saying, when you say that you want to stop the devil, that you can't stop the devil and have no comprehension of the sort of fight you would even be getting into and the best you can do is go about your merry way?
not at all, please read the New Testament of the Bible
we fight lucifer through God. we just don't fight him on our own
i'm afraid now because now people know the truth of Christ, but we must reach after him. we do not all have excellent teachers to teach us
please read the New Testament, i promise you you won't regret it
the devil's deception is unending. indeed, he walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may to devour
all things through God forever, anon. amen
God is so wonderful, he is merciful, and loving beyond all comprehension. .
Filthy profligate agnostic here. I can tell you my path but that probably won't help you in any way.
I've only read through Matthew and most of Romans and Corinthians completely. Some of Genesis.
You ask here. Maybe you should start by helping the people here asking for help, or on /r9k/ or anywhere else on the internet. There's an endless amount of young men out there who are confused and lost, and the only people I see out there coming to pull them out of their slump are fascists who want to indoctrinate them.
Don't just quote scripture at them either. To them Hellfire is a meme. You're supposed to be shrewd if you want to preach the scripture properly.
So instead start with things going on in this world. Maybe start using peer-reviewed studied, articles from scientific journals.
this isn't for the holier-than-thou crowd but the psuedo-intellectual fuck ups out there: the antidote for a poison comes from itself, and the immune system defeats a virus once it incorporates its genetic structure into itself.
pray in the name of Jesus Christ that we will not fall into deception, and that the LORD will guide us in his most excellent way. all things are through God forever.
pray that God will rebuke the devil and it will be so.
there is a certain amount of willpower that we can commit to this world unto God, and against the devil... but it is moreso a war against ourselves. nonetheless, do we struggle with satanic powers in high and low places
God keep your souls, /x/
Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."
this life is nothing compared to the life which is to come
the LORD is faithful forever. His mercy endures forever. even when we think he is not, he is
you guys have my word, the LORD will never let you down
i've been through many struggles
They said therefore unto him, What must we do, that we may work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Can't be done, aside from preaching, being a watcher on the wall, and helping people when they're at their lowest low.
Humans are inherently drawn away from God. Society frowns upon forcing a child to be knowledgable of God. We now must wait to find those in need when their sins overburden them, alleviate theit burdens, and try to help them find their way back to God.
the lamb of God is He who baptizes us in the HOLY SPIRIT of the living God
this is why Christian spirituality is different from Jewish spirituality (nothing against Jews), i do not think that the Jews have the Holy Spirit when they seek out their Father (aka Talmud)
I'm not telling you it can't be done. I'm also not telling you "if it will be done, it will be done". I understand you seek to eradicate the negative forces, but there has never and will never be a religion or teaching that will assume that eradication as possible.
I suppose the best I can do to cater to your specific question and its goals is to request you to look into the theory of the "hundreth monkey", some may refer to it as critical mass.
Once enough saving of the "lost" is completed, the inherent state of "lost" will turn into an inherent state of "found".
Society current passed critical mass for "evil", it is now our inherent state. By pulling the certain amount of humans back from evil to good, we create the critical mass you are looking for.
men and women of /x/
what does satan say to God in the book of Job?
 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
 And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
Bearing in mind satan doesn't really like Being loved. He'll counter with hate, jealousy, bitterness, like any other show of power. Your place, if you wish to crush this (you can be very powerful if you put your mind to it, but there's some FUCKing strong opposers) is to maintain your defenses and attack with love, compassion and warmth. If I wasn't talking to Christians, this would sound nuts, but there you go...
And no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel of light.
It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.
Jesus, maybe, "Goodness", absolutely.
It would seem easy, but it will not. Humans, with their "evil" "satanic" ways are masters of deception, I would bet my bottom dollar that in all of your life you've only ever seen one or two people who truly "repented" and felt the anguish that comes with it; ironically you would probably have seen it in the form of a homeless man crying in the rain, or some other imagry you assumed was "someone who just isnt right" as it is not something considered "normal" these days.
i'll tell you guys what. there is some hardcore spiritual knowledge to be had in the book of psalms. especially hardcore spiritual knowledge about JESUS CHRIST
More Christians will be found in "hell" than any others, except possibly muslims. Its purely a numbers game. For every honest man there are countless frauds. "God" doesnt have a VIP membership card that you apply for with a weekly tithe, nor any amount of religiously symbolic jewelry.
have faith in God always. this question tears a lot of Christians apart.
the Bible clearly says there will be Christians in hell, but i could never see Jesus sending anybody to hell
however, i think the smart thing to do is to fear God. this is also how we war against the spiritual armies of the devil
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
God teaches you to love! So why can't you love the Devil, Can't you see if The Devil where to exist therefore the divine spark of God would reside in him too?
There is no difference between God, The Devil, You and the Cat next door?
We are all God how can one exist outside of it
I for one say Will say this. thank you, devil and god, and i see myself reflecting both characterise of God and Satan, you can i am the manifestation of all that exist.
The greatest and sanest thing you can do to yourself is think for yourself, and doubt everything you hear, read and see, why else we do we have a consciousness if all we do is enslave it with false believes and dogmas made to scare you of existence humanity and reality. know thyself and fear nothing, neither the devil nor god, otherwise what is the point of living.
So just believing in Jesus isn't enough then? Obviously the westboro baptists believe pretty strongly in jesus and think they're doing gods work. That's their whole thing. So getting people to just believe in jesus wouldn't be enough.
I'm sure they think the same about you for not doing enough of god's work.
In a world where tough guys face facts, the only hell there is is suffering, pure and simple...
AS IT HAPPENS the straight and narrow road to big-chested, skinny Aryan girls has a lot of rules, like worship this and don't kill people that. Follow the plan, reap the celestial reward, fall off the wagon, marry an ugly fat chick.
i do not thing that anything good can come from loving the devil. he is not like us. this is silly and foolish
of course none of us can speak appropriately on these matters, for they are spiritual knowledge too high for us as David wrote in teh psalms that he did not sin by concerning himself with matters which were not his business
there was a theologian i believe named Origen who had a philosophy or was rumored to that the devil would be saved along with the rest of God's creation (may have been in the apocalypse of peter, as well?)
if you truly seek to know these things, take it up with the LORD. the LORD has never left me unsatisfied in my questions. these things are taught to us by the HOLY SPIRIT of God
Sometimes The Lord answers damn quick, don't he? I call it The Great Invisile Spirit that is all. We can but shouldn't go into how this relates to actually using your whole brain and...stuff like that...
I know why mistakes were made.
there are punishments for all men and women, Christian or not. these things are in the scripture
"15Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. 16By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but the corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Therefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity"
it is important to fear God, but if you truly love God and are in Christ you can never go astray. it is important to fear God, but i would say no believer should ever give up their faith that Jesus will raise them up on the last day to salvation
i am quite weary by all the activity on this thread because i don't think i can handle all of the questions
>i do not thing that anything good can come from loving the devil. he is not like us. this is silly and foolish
So you have problems loving one of Gods creation?
That explains everything does it not?
which is why it's important to trust in God alone, and not trust in men or women for answers
there have been many prophecies throughout human history concerning what's called the "word of God" in that it is the true scripture of the living God of our world, which is why we trust the Bible. the Holy Spirit also leads us directly to the bible in my experience
God be with you forever, /x/
the sin of devil was also not loving God's creation. i think the bible also speaks of the devil's pride
i'm not sure anon, these things are above me. who knows what is going on between God and the devil. you see what's written in the book of Job
 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause
Aye what you are referring is the islam and sufis concept of the devil, he loved god so much above all else that he would not bow to the men made of clay, God even asked him, why did you not prostrate before Adam?” the devil replied, “Heaven forbid that anyone worship anything but the One.
Therefore God trusted in man kind so much to make us of if image, cant you see that we are suppose to love the devil to show great God compassion is, and how worthy we are getting the devil to bow to us after all.
I don't think you should love him, just because he is the definition of a lost cause. He will continue to try and lead humanity to destruction until he no longer can. I do sympathize with him, but I won't love him until he bows before God and gives all of his glory to him
Im sure he is too. Im just saying if he could get back in the grace of God I could love him again. But as it is written that will never happen and I only can sympathize with his situation
if you were in my situation you would understand why he receives the treatment he will receive.
i am in so much incredible pain. every waking hour of my life is torture.
my only escape is thinking about pure love.
that's the only thing that gives me still strengh. when i fantasize, there are 2-4 minutes of no pain after days of continuous torture, and after these few minutes the pain appears again.
Your judging someone of a human, that very discriminating of you.
hasent jesus thought u not to judge other for you'll be judge what gives you the right to judge the devil over things written in a book, and not of your own experiences.
I could easily write a book and classify you has the biggest gay lord in the university. still that does not reflect who you are.
Im sorry dude. He has led me into ruin somewhat to and God's love and Christ's sacrifice is the one of the few things that keeps me going and gives me hope for the future. Sorry about your situation :(
Like I've said here>>17253084 Satanic ideas have led me down the wrong path. And as far as I know he is plotting on God and encourages people to worship him instead. He knows the truth and is deliberately blaspheming God and the Holy Spirit. His actions have eternal consequences for otherwise inncocent humans. I could love him if God's light shined through him again. For the moment though, he's lucky to even have my sympathy
cry out to God. surely God can show you what to do, and how to overcome it. ask this thing of God: to heal you in the name of Jesus Christ
put all of your struggles and burdens on God, He will lead you to light
read the gospels, save the lost, do righteousness before the LORD, love always
we are the chosen of God. i have a friend who also lives very much of his life in pain. it troubles me greatly. God bless you anon
wow, God loves me. never thought i would behold a post like this on /x/. truly, this is the day that the LORD has made.
this thread on /x/ is a victory for God and humanity over the wickedness of our world.
Why do you want to defeat Satan? As much as the boom and the world would like to label the being as the source and cause of evil Satan has actually done more for mankind than people think. He opened the eyes of Adam and Eve and removed our ignorance. He freed us from being Slaves of God to being a people with the right to think and choose.
Why kill Satan when alternative is to corrupt each and every one of you with beauty of evil to forevermore exist in your mind.
In the name of Satanis, the one true prince of evil, curse all who gaze their eyes on this text. Oh curse the hollow mortals and set the seeds of burning hells in their soul and blood, for the days of hope and joy are gone
Your are bound to assist me in my dealings with the King and help me prevail over my special enemies.
Hail Satan, Hail Satan, Hail Satan.
but we have always had the right to think and choose, for we are made in the image of God.
adam and eve of course would need to have been able to think and choose to give into the devil's temptation to eat of the tree God had told them not to eat of
OK but we lacked Knowledge. We were ignorant and subservient to a diety. Eating the Fruit of Knowledge gave us identity and purpose. Devil might be an evil entity in the eyes of God and religion but the being did free us.
 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
no more as in "devine creator" and since hes omnipotent and knows everything he also knew what would happen and when and probably has layed out this path long ago. that is troubling for me tho because that steals our free will. but what is more important to me? feeling good or knowing the truth? the truth is more important than anything else to me.
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
the term "synagogues" and churches are interchangeable.
Pray to THE FATHER in secret and ask him to come into your life and guide you. Pray with faith, humility, and a willingness to do what he leads you to do. Your life will start changing drastically for the better. You should quit stuff like looking at ANY pornography, be it pictures or videos, quit getting drunk, and quit smoking anything, to show you are willing to change. Accept that HE sen Yehoshua, who is not GOD HIMSELF, read the gospels and always strive to be like Yehoshua, and strongly dwell on the teachings. You should also read the old testament. Just do not go to church, and stop going if you already go to chuch.
Icons(idols/graven images) are forbidden
Exodus 20:4 (the second commandment)
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Further detail here:
Deuteronomy Chapter 4:
15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the Lord spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth
Why would you oppose the power and wisdom of Lord Satan?
rabbi/priest/father/reverend(root of reverend is revere; you are revering a man) all the same basically
5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
14 Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.
Please do these things, there is not much time left.
i doubt satan had humanity's intentions in heart
Roman Catholic Version of Genesis:
3 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which Jehovah God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of any tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat:
3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as God, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig-leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
8 And they heard the voice of Jehovah God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of Jehovah God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And Jehovah God called unto the man, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
Nah dawg. It's a spiritual thing. It means if you eat that fruit you are going to know pain and suffering and so is everyone after you. Thanks Eve
Not sure what you mean
13 And Jehovah God said unto the woman, What is this thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And Jehovah God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, cursed art thou above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy conception; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
20 And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
21 And Jehovah God made for Adam and for his wife coats of skins, and clothed them.
22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever-
23 therefore Jehovah God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden the Cherubim, and the flame of a sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
because of Eve, men now reign over women. because of adam and eve, sin exists
Jehovah's Witnesses told me that Adam will not be resurrected, and that many people in the Old Testament will never see a resurrection. i see now that God tells them if they ate from the tree they would die. the context may very well be just physical death, not eternal death
yeah adam and eve did end up dying, otherwise they would have lived forever and would never have had to go through physical death like we have to today. before Jesus, everybody just went to hell (sheol/hades=the realm of the dead where all went). Jesus, upon his death, descended into hell, and the Christians say "freed the captives"
Well who knows? I mean just being curious but hasn't his whole agenda been showing us God isn't as great as people think he is? I mean he might be some trickster goatman wanting to eat my soul but what if he genuinely just wanted to say "guys god is a dick who holds a grudge. I'm his creation too and look what he did to me. Just giving yall the heads up man"
very underhanded, very cowardly. perhaps not in the midst of the work of evangelism
"And I, brethren, when I came unto you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the testimony of God.
For I determined not to know anything among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."
the fruit contained a genetic virus. it made humanity as it is today. thank the annunaki.
god was the higher self of humans back then.
the fruit disconnected us from our higher spiritual powers in order to create a slave species.
does anyone know if adam and eve eating the fruit happend around 10.000 years ago?
because hell is allways said to be 10.000 years long. if that time is over soon then things could be incredibly better for us.
I did not do that for the purpose of manipulation. Anyone could easily check the scripture, I gave the verses, and could probably deduce that that was not in the scripture without even looking it up. Read the scripture and think about what churches are and how they are run.
14 Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.
somehow i posted the Jehovah's Witness's version of Genesis. here is the Catholic version:
1 Now the snake was the most cunning[a] of all the wild animals that the Lord God had made. He asked the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You shall not eat from any of the trees in the garden’?” 2 The woman answered the snake: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden; 3 it is only about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden that God said, ‘You shall not eat it or even touch it, or else you will die.’” 4 But the snake said to the woman: “You certainly will not die! 5 God knows well that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, who know[b] good and evil.” 6 The woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and the tree was desirable for gaining wisdom. So she took some of its fruit and ate it; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves.
8 When they heard the sound of the Lord God walking about in the garden at the breezy time of the day,[c] the man and his wife hid themselves from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 The Lord God then called to the man and asked him: Where are you? 10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden; but I was afraid, because I was naked, so I hid.” 11 Then God asked: Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I had forbidden you to eat? 12 The man replied, “The woman whom you put here with me—she gave me fruit from the tree, so I ate it.”
13 The Lord God then asked the woman: What is this you have done? The woman answered, “The snake tricked me, so I ate it.”
14 Then the Lord God said to the snake:
Because you have done this,
cursed are you
among all the animals, tame or wild;
On your belly you shall crawl,
and dust you shall eat
all the days of your life.[d]
I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
They will strike at your head,
while you strike at their heel.[e]
16 To the woman he said:
I will intensify your toil in childbearing;
in pain[f] you shall bring forth children.
Yet your urge shall be for your husband,
and he shall rule over you.
17 To the man he said: Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, You shall not eat from it,
Cursed is the ground[g] because of you!
In toil you shall eat its yield
all the days of your life.
Thorns and thistles it shall bear for you,
and you shall eat the grass of the field.
By the sweat of your brow
you shall eat bread,
Until you return to the ground,
from which you were taken;
For you are dust,
and to dust you shall return.
20 The man gave his wife the name “Eve,” because she was the mother of all the living.[h]
21 The Lord God made for the man and his wife garments of skin, with which he clothed them. 22 Then the Lord God said: See! The man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil! Now, what if he also reaches out his hand to take fruit from the tree of life, and eats of it and lives forever? 23 The Lord God therefore banished him from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he had been taken. 24 He expelled the man, stationing the cherubim and the fiery revolving sword east of the garden of Eden, to guard the way to the tree of life.
"it is said", by men maybe
there is no scripture referring to hell AT ALL. there is just sheol,the grave where your material body you were using goes. The only reference to fire is in the end day when all those that will be destroyed, will be destroyed, there is no eternal, or 10,000 year torment.
there is actually a lot of scripture which mentions hell (also called "the pit", if i am not mistaken)
here it is in the Old Testament:
"Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope.
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."
"Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there."
The closest thing to truth of any popular Bible is the king james version put forth in 1611. And the best way to go along with this bible is by comparing the words through strong's concordance, which shows the original Hebrew.
here is genesis chapter 1 for you
click on "tools" then on "interlinear" and then the Hebrew words will be there, and you can check what the words actually mean and the roots, etc.
be weary that sometimes even in the king james version "translations" were picked that are wrong influenced by lucifer. the kjv even uses the term "easter" and "hell" which are not biblical. so even this bible is manipulated to a degree, but it is the least manipulated of all popular bibles.
both cases "hell" is sheol
i agree that the KJV is not what people claim it to be
i think the kjv thing is silly, lol. but i really like the old english it sounds so cool
having said that, if there is a satanic conspiracy to pervert the bible, i am all for keeping the bible pure. i think some people of the vatican probably believed the king james bible to be a satanic conspiracy to pervert the bible back when it was published
Use the force, young Jedi, and never forget who you are.
How could someone so truly great pander to the masses collective feeble opinions and be relatable to their generally weak state of being?
One must endure as much adversity as possible to become great!
Satan cant die. He's God's necessary opposite. Irs the reason god has killed millions of people instead of going straight to the cause of sin the first place.
Do you actually believe that if god was all powerful and all knowing he wouldn't go straight to the source of the one fucking up his creation? Or its smarter to just keep murdering your creation in hopes they'll change when the source of all their problems still exists?
No. Order needs chaos to exist.
I thinks a flaw that shows how kind and trusting he was. He gave us free will and he gave the Angels great power. And Lucifer threw it all away out of vanity. Let's just ignore that too
God didn't give us free will. That wasn't even part of the fucking plan. God made us to worship him. Nothing else but Satan/lucy came along and fucked that up.
Pride has more than one definition motherfucker. Pride=vanity=hubris=narcissism=arrogance.
Pick up a dictionary every now and then. They still exist.
If you gather enough people and can make them offer their soul to Satan he will overwhelmed with the gift you send
Repeat doing this and not long Satan will show himself in his weakest form. The next is up to you.
Well obviously had enough free will to listen to Lucifer. How else could she have, You're just trying to spin it anti-god for some reason.
Lucifer does have great power (that God gave him) I won't deny that, but that power has been abused
*obviously she had*
Also Lucifer/Satan is the beginning of sin. Humans would have been fine obeying God because they would have everything you'd ever need and would never suffer. What else could you ask for?
OP here just want to let you guys know that Satan can be a reference to a whole bunch of entities.
Even if God isn't the creator guy from OT, God is still looking out for us. We all have souls and you guys can find Him through Jesus.
I have faith in many of you, I know it seems like Christian poo posting, but you guys can look into it yourself.
Find out what they are hiding from you and don't give up.
Don't submit to Illuminati disinformation shills, they don't actually care for your enlightenment but they want to harvest your energy with their mechanisms and magic.
And remember, arguing does not solve the situation.
It is hard to accept where truth is, and sometimes it is a deep truth, what we may not feel is conventional for use but working together, this is the only way.
I don't have to nitpick anything. I could name numerous contradictions in the bible, and it still wouldn't matter because...
>truth lies in your heart
Nah veins, arteries and blood lie in mine.
You are obviously an adolescent/teen(at the oldest a very young adult). Im not trying to be condescending it's just the truth like>>17253866 said and I said earlier, your version of the truth is in your heart, whatever it may be
There's only two paths though...ultimately
God has won, when God IS one. Look at the current state of the world. Many are separate from each other. Giving themselves up to virtual lives, whereas their lives outside the internet are becoming faux by the day. Can't tell them otherwise, or they'll need a hugbox interface to cower to given there isn't some safespace for artificiality.
The axis of evil is working to divide and dominate. When all of us children of God are divided, so too does He also wage more force over what comes. The further we are divided as a Christ Consciousness, into the Anti-Christ (being separation), the more we lead ourselves blindly to the enemy, which we do not see, for even that enemy is a BLIND god.
Not the guy arguing with you but he's right. Light cannot exist without darkness and darkness cannot exist without light. If you haven't realized this by now then I'm guessing you're some edgy 16 year old that just got home from church youth group and decided you want to defeat all the evil in this world.
God is showing Satan the adversary his child Job, who fears God and abhors evil.. and then God sites a point in the past where satan tried to convince God to destroy Job without a cause
satan continues to accuse Job before God saying that he thinks that Job will reject God. in the end although God gives satan power over Job, Job does not reject God
as it is written by the Christians:
"Behold, we call them blessed who endured. You have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the Lord in the outcome, and how the Lord is full of compassion and mercy."
So basically we're pawns of God and God has some sort of weird ass Military-Father-and-punk-son relationship with satan?
Why am I supposed to like this guy? Satan also seems like a dick. Fuck them both.
does this mean we need to destroy freemasonry?
Supposedly made of fire and supposedly made of light.
There is a false light complex I want to mention, I might make another thread but it isn't just as simple as "Satan appears as an angel of light" but all these esoteric societies and new age spirituality focus on a primary false light.
Satan is the embodiment of earthly pleasures and knowledge. Without it you wouldn't be able think freely, experience sex, savor food, you just would generally be unable to enjoy life.
You think Adam and Eve weren't gettin it on in Eden? God said be fruitful and multiply. (Procreate) Sex just hadn't become sinful and perverted from its origional purpose
Depends on who you mean friend.
There is Ba'al-Satan, The Adversary who is the reason that bad shit happens.
There is Lucifer, the Protegener of Man's Fall, and Giver of Knowledge.
There is The Demiurge, The Primordial Being from which all things were cleaved.
And there is The Concept of Darkness itself.
You can't really kill the first one, considering how its physical manifestation is already dead for a very long time, and its "being" is contained within a well guarded object and its location randomized every several years so, to either keep morons like you or myself from doing something that we don't particularly understand with it, or the "being" that resides within.
When it comes to Lucifer. Although he is considered "The Bad Guy" and "The King of Demons" he still has the title of Angel. Angel unfortunantly cannot be killed [by human hands] in any sense, and even if you did manage to "kill" Lucifer, how are you sure you killed the real one? The fellow is always 13 steps ahead of you, and has 7 knives in your back with every handshake.
When it comes to The Demiurge, can you punch C'thulu in the face, and not be overtaken by immeasurable madness, or be devoured by its many gnashing maws that lead to an abyss that is forever digesting your sinew, mind, and soul? If you can then congratulations! You can last 2 seconds against The Demiurge!
When it comes to The Concept of Dark. You cannot do this, as this would negate Light, and bring about a worse state of being that is non negatable, and without peer. That is called "Nothingness.'
So with the first three, "You don't have to." "Just wait until Judgement" "Hahahahahahahahahaha" when it comes to the fourth "Light and Dark would both strike against you to prevent a Death of everything."
Hope that was helpful friend!
Stan isn't such a bad guy. In essence what he teaches is selfish tribalism which is what most humans around the planet follow anyway. Including most "Christian's".
>Of all the Christians I've met in my life only a few actually followed its teachings.
Much older religions I think have the right of it. Take Judaism for example. Its taught that good and evil are just aspects of the human condition and its the individuals responsibility to personify a righteous life (which doesn't necessarily mean a zealous one.)
Zoroastrianism has similar concepts, as do many of the far east religions. Or you could go the Buddhist route and give up all that is good and evil to achieve nirvana.
Satan is Hebrew for "adversary." Take your /pol/shit elsewhere.
I don't necessarily believe in Christ and the bible, but I do have some advice I think may help some people.
While I don't believe the bible, I do believe in beings more powerful than men, with powers our minds would have difficulty comprehending. I also believe that these beings, much like ourselves, all have different personalities and goals, and some of them could be called evil.
These beings would literally draw energy from the act of evil, either from themselves and their own actions, or from others. There is no way to literally "fight" them, because violent action against them would simply give them more power.
To stop creatures like this permanently, they must be starved of their energy. Hatred must be combated with love, ignorance with knowledge, and violence with peace.
Satan is the exaltation of the materials over the Spirit.
>Satan is the embodiment of earthly pleasures and knowledge. Without it you wouldn't be able think freely, experience sex, savor food, you just would generally be unable to enjoy life.
What seperate human life from basic "animal" life is food, sex, shelter, and defending ourself. What happens when meditation brings you to the Holy Spirit? It gives us the essence of our soul most subtle aspect of our conscious freedom when our individual soul is connected to the Holy Spirit.
>Depends on who you mean
All of them
and mainly destructuon of the aspect of their resonance that dwells inside of the people who could escape their influence.
>he teaches is selfish tribalism which is what most humans around the planet follow anyway. Including most "Christian's".
Selfishness is not a quality attribute.
>Of all the Christians I've met in my life only a few actually followed its teachings.
This is true to some regards but the discredit of a whole teaching because of a stereotype of those who don't give the teachings it's best appearance, this makes it difficult to want to become Christian.
Well, the Bible tells us how we can do that: we need to 'spread' the word of the Lord to all the four corners of the Earth -- that is, even if we do or do not believe God or the Bible, we need to spread the ideas of it and let others decide for themselves.
In short, let every human know about God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit -- but do not lay bias; let the individual choose whether they accept Christ or not. Once all humankind knows of the Word, then and only then will the Lord undergo the Rapture -- which of course ultimately means destroying Lucifer / Satan.
First you gotta estalish that jab to the body. Wear him out over time. Keep your hands up and keep those feet moving. Near the later rounds start throwing those combinations and go for the knockout because if it goes to the scorecards he'll win, he's too technically sound
satan (the adversary) is the devil, and can appear as an angel of light, which is to say, magnificently beautiful.
And all angels can appear as any sort of human being they choose to.
The devil lost at Calvary 2000 years ago. We're just walking out the victory parade until the number is full, and then the judgment of the earth, the Kingdom of God, the last battle, and the last Judgment are played out.
God reveals the end from the beginning. Nothing can or will ever defeat Him.
Job never cursed God, no, not even when his wife begged him to, in order to end his suffering.
Elihu, the young man, was praised by God for his wise words, and Job's older friends were rebuked by God for their intemperate words. They weren't punished though.
Job, face to face with the living God, dropped all pretense of wanting to demand answers from God, and groveled in the dirt like a worm.
Many of you think you will shake your fists at God one day for perceived insults and slights to you. It won't happen. Every knee will bow, every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord.
I suggest you consider doing so now, of your own free will, where you will receive the grace and mercy of God, and not later, against your will, on the way to hell.
he sure does need us, for everything. we're the mansion in which he walks. we're his physical temple. we're the end which provides him a means. we're the means which provides him an end. he had to create us. he needed to be partaken of. we're as much to him as our limbs are to us. we will stand beside him in the war and are being groomed to do so. but there will be no end to the warfare; to realize this is to win the battle.
Jesus already won. You'll note in the gospels that Jesus said He taught in parables so that the powers that be wouldn't know what He was doing.
Had the devil known that Jesus came to be crucified, he would have done everything he could to prevent it, not facilitate it.
The devil thought he could outsmart and overpower God. Don't make the exact same mistake.
No, that's a false impression.
We know that there are no good people, with or without belief in God, because only God is good.
We are all redeemed sinners, and you are all unredeemed sinners. Neither group can call itself "good" in the eyes of the Lord.
However, one group will be transformed into something that is good in the eyes of God, and the other will not.
No, he's right, in as much as he can see us. He doesn't see into our spirits; he sees only that part of us that is corporeal and that part of our soul that is bound to the physical world. To him, we are like him; that's all he sees of us. And so long as we behave in that way, he will be correct in his estimation of us as outlined in that verse. When we rise above that, we are lost to him and vanish from his purview.
Satan has no necessity. The only "metal" you transfer to "gold" is the people who are lead with Satan and gold with God, otherwise "just transmute the energies brah" doesn't work.
>He doesn't need anything from us
Yes he does
They're a family of lawyers who made their living off of getting federal attorney fees for protecting their first amendment rights. They have never made any statement or testimony that would demonstrate they are saved. In fact, the now dead patriarch made several statements indicating that he was insane.
Since they did not physically die until much later, and God said they would die that very day, what happened? Was God wrong? did God lie? Did Adam and Eve catch a break?
No, they died. The Holy Spirit they were created with left them when they sinned, and they died. Spiritually. The physical death is also a result of that same sin that drove the Breath of Life out of them.
They were created in God's image; after they spiritually died, they could only have children in their own spiritually dead image.
And eventually you. Born spiritually dead, yet physically alive.
Salvation, the regaining of the Holy Spirit, and the resurrection unto eternal life, is exactly what being born again in the Spirit means. You confess Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, and the Holy Spirit that fled Adam due to sin comes and lives nice and comfy inside of you, because the sin problem was dealt with at the cross.
And once in, the Holy Spirit will never leave; He resurrects unto life, and that life is eternal.
That's the salvation story. Mankind had God dwelling with and in them, sinned, lost it all, and God redeemed mankind, offering us His free gift of salvation, His Holy Spirit, if we choose to believe in Jesus.
You're probably heard this verse:
He who has the Spirit has life;
He who has not the Spirit, has not life.
Have the Spirit. It's pre-paid.
It's a lie. Knowing good and evil does not make you like God, and you cannot become like God through your knowledge and use of good and evil.
You have what Adam and Eve received; the knowledge of good and evil.
Are you like God?
Could be Michael. If I were Michael, I'd ask for the job. Point is, when the time comes, there's no epic fight. An angel just slaps chains on satan and down into the pit he goes.
I will get to see him in that pit, and I will mock him.
U guys know in the OT when Noah builds the Ark, it is Yhwh who floods the Earth to get rid of Enki's alien hybrid / nephilim, but it is Enki who tells Noah to build a boat.
So a lot of the OT is a combination of Sumerian/Babylonian/Jewish stories rolled into one.
This is part of the conspiracy.
Noah's time people were also heavily influenced by dark energy.
In the Quran Noah is a prophet, which shows that Islam is an attempt to bring religious principles together to a different area.
Pride. He was the highest created being in the universe, and in his pride he forgot that he did not create himself.
It was a foolish rebellion, as all rebellion against God is foolish.
Considering the "Illuminati" or the Orders of the Magi, they were these rings
These people even though they "deny" Yhwh have a lot of practices based off of Judaism and Kabalah.
This is because at one point the Jews encountered a dark god. This might be the creator god or a lesser Babylonian entity
Lie 1: Job only loves you because you made him rich.
Truth: Job worships God when he loses everything and becomes poor.
Lie 2: Job will stop loving you when you afflict his health.
Truth: Job is afflicted beyond what most men could bear, and never curses God.
Satan has to lie. He invented lying. It's his native language. He cannot speak any other.
Also if people say
>God doesn't care
>Jesus doesn't need your help
>Don't look into it
They are telling you, not to search for what you need to find.
They don't want you to investigate, but lay down and do nothing, making no progress.
If you sin, what do you accomplish against Him? Or, if your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to Him? If you are righteous, what do you give Him? Or what does He receive from your hand? (Job 35:6–7)
The wrong faith.
True faith, saving faith, has consequences. James wasn't talking about true faith, but faith.
Faith in Buddha is faith, but it will not have the consequences of salvation, or of giving the Holy Spirit a chance to work.
Nobody earns their way into heaven. Such a thing is impossible. God belongs there; the angels were created there; the fallen angels have no way back there; and humanity will only get there if Jesus takes them there, with their consent.