What the fuck is up with this CERN cult stuff? Why does a "scientist" looking guy do Shiva's dance of death? Why is it so similar to this "Pet goat" animation?
Their promotional video is ritualistic as fuck.
(mix of both videos:)
(link to both videos' full version is in the description)
Still there OP?
It's weird how Cern and this Mayan thingy look like. Maya in Sanskrit means "that which is not" and they also appearantly worship Shiva.
Magicians use maya as a measurement for illusion.
Ever see a Gaudiya Vaishnava thread get raided by Shaivites, Shiva is responsible for material blessings (LaVey mentions Shiva as a name for Satan) and Krsna (God) is responsible for Spiritual Freedom and is the goal of all life.
It isn't that Shiva is bad, but if they are trying to do some occult-science project and perform sacrifices, it is likely they are going to succeed. They make Siva a Baphomet
>Still there OP?
yes, still here.
>It's weird how Cern and this Mayan thingy look like. Maya in Sanskrit means "that which is not" and they also appearantly worship Shiva.
Yeah this whole CERN thing has been "werid" from the start. something feels off.
>Shiva is responsible for material blessings (LaVey mentions Shiva as a name for Satan) and Krsna (God) is responsible for Spiritual Freedom and is the goal of all life.
>They make Siva a Baphomet
what does this mean? what would they accomplish?
Baphomet is a figure in occultism, people believe the image will bestow blessing along with ritual spell work, and is a concept some occultist came up with not too long ago.
Them making Shiva a "Baphomet" means that if they are some occult science cultist club, they are trying to gain prosperity from Shiva.
>And so far Lord Shiva is concerned, he is the husband of mother Durgā, the supreme material power, srsti-sthiti-pralaya sādhana-saktir ekā chāyeva yasya bhuvanāni vibharti durgā [Bs. 5.44]. So the devotee of Shiva gets all material benediction, and Vaishnava, instead of material benediction, he gets all spiritual benediction.
Not only does Shiva give material blessing but is a fountain for esoteric knowledge, and new age and LaVey have found ways to incorporate Shiva.
Some Hindus in Ancient texts worship Shiva are good pious people, and other Hindus in Ancient texts worship Shiva and become very dangerous
>i cant believe they've actually done it. Not long left. They were warned, but they just had to keep pushing the boundaries of science. The noise. I can't take the noise anymore. And the light, dear God! The Universe is slowly unraveling around us. I'm not going to wait for death. I have a pistol in the attic."
This was part of a fallout 3 morse codes creepy pasta from a hidden radio station in the game.
I guess it predicted Gary Coleman's death? Anyways the quote above suggests that the boundary of science is soon to be pushed "too far" which also sounds like Cern.
so what? you think if there was more behind it, they would fucking tell us through wikipedia?
Where do these countries get all this money? Their idea of material and technological advancement is who can build the best bomb and go to outer space WERE NOT FIVE YEARS OLD ANYMORE...
Holy God dude, these guys are like little kids fighting over who gets the swing at a play ground.
This doesn't mean the statue just sits there and looks pretty. There is plenty about occultism and magic having a parallel, and Shiva would be the "ideal" god they would pursue / venerate for this sort of thing
>Maya worship Shiva
They may have had a God similar to Shiva, but I doubt that the Precolumbian civilizations ever had actual contact with Hinduism.
>ancient sailors sailed all over the world XDDD the Romans and Chinese were in Ameriga and the Indians brobably as well :DD
The Hindu gods are the same as the sumerian gods which makes them the same as the Jewish gods.
They just go by different names in Hindu, Sumerian and Jewish Culture.
Shiva to the Sumerians is Enlil and to the Jews he is Yahweh.
The Asura / Anunna and Elohim are all the same gods.
Not to the entirety
The same radio station, it is more codes and one mentions Gary Coleman's death, which may make the other statement about "ousting science too far accurate"
Wow the typos...
I meant to say if the post about Gary Coleman's death is valid, then so isn't the "science has gone too far" too
"Not to the entirety" as in not all Hindu gods are represented by the deities
Your pretty spot on, wanna post ITT >>17191999?
>>ancient sailors sailed all over the world XDDD the Romans and Chinese were in Ameriga and the Indians brobably as well :DD
Hearing and disbelieving doesn't make it false, disbeliever.
As a Hindu it's hilarious to see retarded christfags and new age bullshitters associating Lord Shiva with some devil or demon or whatever. The cosmic dance was said to have occurred at the very beginning of the universe as a symbol of all the upheaval and destruction that came before the universe became more stable.
The cosmic dance and the knowledge/destruction/stability cycle symbolizes the way science and any new field of science works. It creates new knowledge which disturbs pretty concieced views and opinions which causes great disturbance in certain circles or even in the society itself if the new knowledge discovered is significant enough and how it eventually stabilizes society and benefits or harms the future population.
Given that science is a process to generate "destructive" or disturbing knowledge that upvheals our understanding of our world.
I think it's a perfect symbolic gift for an organisation like cern embarking on its journey to find the god particle, origins of universe, perhaps even miniature blackholes
Creations after destruction, another thing Shiva represents.
Just the associations made by new-agers and people like LaVey would would use Shiva or Kali and associate it with Satan.
As a Hindu, I first hand encountered when people worship Shiva for bad reasons, and this also happens through the Hindu Legends where people get out of control when worshipping Shiva and or Brahma.
They want to make miniature black holes but they don't want to help benefit the living conditions on Earth will all that $$$ they supposedly owe eachother
>Someone on /x/ who actually knows what they are talking about
Thank you for bringing some much needed rationality to this old ass topic. Any fears concerning CERN or the LHC is a simplistic fear of the unknown. Just because people don't full understand what they are doing, they fill in the blanks of their ignorance with their boogeyman, and continue looking into it under the influence of that biased narrative. Fear of the unknown only serves to impede us from knowing.
That fallout copypasta was debunked. Modders have gone through every bit of data in that game and came up with nothing. The pasta came out after it's supposed "predictions" actually happened, and I'm sure by now at least one or more subsequent predictions have gone past their date and never came to pass. Please people, just Google it before talking about it as if it has any real credibility.
>transposed from Morse to English, and saw the line, "one-two-zero-five-five-two-eight-two-zero-one-zero. What are you talkin' about? You'll be missed."
>He realized this referred to the recent death of Gary Coleman, and then quickly realized the numbers were the time and date of death. He immediately scanned through the messages to try and find more examples of this apparent future telling by a game that's more than a year old.
>this thread on the front page
It's good to know there are still people on 4chan that are even more retarded and self-delusional than /pol/.
How did you first hand observed people using Lord Shiva for bad reasons?
I personally think that's a stupid excuse, poor and hungry people have existed forever, that doesn't mean we should drop everything and keep subsidizing poor till each.and everyone of them disappears.
Poverty and prosperity are cyclical. Threads like these are mostly made by christfags and morons with some stupid agenda to portray that everything non christian is evil and bad lol
These people actually need permission from pope to do yoga apparently lel
Reminds me of fanatic muslims who need fatwas for everything they don't like
If only you could be lesser obvious about the whole samefag thing.
how? By sacrificing goats and virgins? I don't see any worship going on. Maybe respect but that's it. I have a pet dog and I care about him and respect him and try to treat him like a family member. Does that mean i am a dog worshipper?
you need to see the meaning of worship before you spew out that word like candy frendo
Sacrificing goats and virgins isn't worship anon.
I am saying they send benediction to Shiva outside their esoteric science club.
It could be very dangerous, to have Shiva grant blessings outside of your black hole particle accelerating anti-matter machine
Maybe Shiva protects them, and maybe someone is black magic worshipping Shiva (because some people do)
>Shiva would be the "ideal" god they would pursue / venerate for this sort of thing
This is true. Kashmir Shaivism is the deepest tradition in the world and over a thousand years ago they talked about that existence is made of energy and the energy is a vibration they call spanda; they claim that this energy is conscious. So much deep shit in the non dual Tantras. They talk in sutras from the year 800 about shit science just found out in the 80's and they talk about seriously next level shit science hasn't even found out but the enlightened have and just talk all about it.
This is the flaw of association / principle of correspondence.
Just because someone says x = y doesn't mean it's actually true.
So it is something to consider when you see someone being a devotee to Shiva, while Siva represents all kinds of activity, it is important to understand why people choose Shiva and worship him
My intentions are just to meditate on Siva. I don't follow all sects of Saivism so I don't understand the whole worshiping Shiva with evil intentions; that doesn't make sense to me. But I guess thats cause I follow the Trika school.
Just saying it can happen. If you are into occultism you probably venerate Shiva. Many occultists have a scheme to use magic for gain / attain enlightenment from other beings (interdimensional) and aside from all the hoopla, just want to throw that out there.
It is likely that this fancy science club would venerate Shiva, for their particle accelerator, and knowing the condition of the world, these people are most likely up to no good.
Mandela effects happend after the spetember happenings, never be notice before september 2014.
Read the Spanda Karikas The Divine Creative Pulsation the deepest sutra on the planet and you will see why they have a statue of Shiva there.
If you can't see the symbolic connection between the research they are doing and Shiva, you might be retarded or willfully ignorant. It's like seeing a mermaid or Neptune in front of an aquarium then wondering if they're worshipping it.
>It just seems like a science club with a bunch of comic book machines worshipping the Hindu god of destruction will inevitably get out of hand
>being this antiscience
>being this antiintellectual
>being this anti the private worship of others
Christniggers, ladies and gents.
I understand where you're coming from, so I'll take the insult.
But again, a fancy science cult with a statue of a hindu god of destruction is outside a giant black hole particle accelerator.
>edgy scienctific occultist
It is going to end badly.
>But again, a fancy science cult with a statue of a hindu god of destruction is outside a giant black hole particle accelerator.
>doubling down on being this opposed to science, intellectualism, and the worship of anything but the Nazarene
Particle accelerators are exactly what they sound like. Electrons, photons, protons and neutrons can all be manufactured - hypothetically, any particle should be transmutable into any other particle.
The relationship to alchemy should be obvious. Imagine matter design - the strength of a bond is related to the distance between two particles. So, by finding stable particles that function as desired - those having the right mass, spin and interactions - we can design atom analogs which are stronger and more energy dense than ordinary matter.
Within the proper strains of Vedism and Hinduism, Shiva represents the ideal man. A snake and a crescent moon adorn his head, linking Shiva with Vishnu's Shesha, and Chandra/Soma's lunar properties. The idea is to wake up to the fact that you're literally Shiva or his consort - either you are Shiva, or you bask in his presence as his one and only.
Basically, they want to be gods. This essay is a rough outline of how to make a body on Shiva's level;
>Alchemical Diamond Bodies
I'm working on the biological and chemical thirds of this body - CERN is working on the physical third. Other people are working on q-carbon, which itself is ferromagnetic. 350T magnetic fields would produce very strong materials.
The people in charge at the very top are in a religious mania 24/7/365. "I am become death, destroyer of worlds." They really want what's best for all of us - which is defined by them as transmutation of the natural body into what I call the Soma body. Jesus speaks of transforming people into life-giving spirits in 1 Corinthians 15:45.
This. We were gods, and we shall be gods again. Science is the toolkit of the gods, and it's capacity to enable the creation of solid matter from light is how the universe was created from chaos. You can stick as many photons as you want in the smallest space you want.
The world doesn't need people playing God.
Ever read Ezekiel 28? When people "become God" they take away God's worship, and thus offend God.
You access your spiritual body in this body. Cor 1 15:45, this is the implication that Adam had a physical and a spiritual body as do well all already.
What they are trying to do is essentially already accomplished, but they're trying to create some artifical divinity thingy here?
> the lavey meme
I associate Jesus, my pet rock, Charles Chaplin and Dark Lord Voldemort to Satan
Does this make them Satan???
No it doesn't, out of those only Voldemort has anything to do with satan.
is the typical /x/ poster so devoid of his own creativity that he can't imagine other people being creative? artists who make commercials and animations deliberately include provocative symbols and images. they're coded messages in the same way the fucking giving tree is a metaphor for abusive relationships.
try creating something and the mystery of art won't be so mystical for you anymore.
first of all, pop stars aren't creative people or artists. they hire stylists to dress them in provocative and attention-grabbing ways. they put some occult symbol on her and now we're talking about her. they sell inverted crosses and illuminati shit at the mall for fuck's sake, it's trendy
because theyre a cult of death obsessed illuminati maniacs hell bent on making a black hole to consume us all and stuff us into satans asshole.
is that what you wanted to hear?
do you feel better now?
fuck you i hope you drown in sinister connotations you useless paranoid fuck
The human tendency to lose balance and fall off unto one side, to emerge again from the other.
In that way the Buddha also spoke of the middle way.
Brahma the Creator
Vishnu the Preserver
Shiva the Destroyer/Transformer
To take one without the other is the human error, and because of this inherent flaw in mans reason he will resolve in himself without having attained anything.
Dust ye are and unto dust thou shalt return.
Everyone else: Have a great time wherever you are. Keep life exciting, the meeting point is never far from here.
Or just be a bhakti cut out the middle men
>"I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who know this perfectly engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts. Arjuna said: You are the Supreme Brahman, the ultimate, the supreme abode and purifier, the Absolute Truth and the eternal divine person. You are the primal God, transcendental and original, and You are the unborn and all-pervading beauty. "
Also, just pointing out how it "could" end badly for the scientific Shaivite, "could" and most likely will
Welcome to /x/, where the roll players roleplay and the serious folk roleplay without knowing it.
I think CERN is the pushing off science and magic too far, and if I was reading a comic book about a science club worshipping a destruction god, the story would envelope into the lab being destroyed for some reason.
As for the "become divine" with this new technology, that just doesn't sound design natural. It shows how mankind is selfish enough to try and become divine through something like this and leave everyone else behind, we don't mean anything to them
The bhakti does not get involved, for he is the involvement.
Jesus Christ stop calling it a "black hole particle accelerator" you fuckwits, it's just a particle accelerator
There is literally no credibility to the theory that high-speed particle collisions can create a black hole and the only place I've seen this theory posited is on ultra-Christian YouTube videos
So why do they require accelerated particles in the first place?
Will that accelerated particle bring world peace?
Will it feed the hungry?
Will it stop shitposting on /x/?
"Ah no we just don't know what happens. But we're going to try it anyways because fuck it. We just allow ourselves to play with all of your lifes because we can and because fuck you." - Cern
Yea. Humanity Go.
Much smart. So wow.
Hey, maybe this thing can stop memes.
Or it will create even more. Who knows right? Fuck everything.
John Titor was right. We are in one of the timelines in wich Cern invent the thime machine. Otherwise John titor couldn't have sent us his posts, messages and images. In the other hand, we are not in the original John Titor timeline because some of his predictions weren't 100% acurate, but have we reach the 1% of divergence required to be in another timeline?
Upper right corner is a time machine. Pic related is a real time machine assembled and finished. It is operational.
Also the computer is a IBM 5100. It is needed in the 2036 post WWIII timeline
The image was taken with a XX century camera long time ago, sorry .
Posting more images of the time machine
are you retarded? These images were posted by John Titor in the 2000 (I think they are posted in other palces of the internet too). I change nothing. Also this timeline was doomed before, CERN seems to don't stop their mini black hole investigations. Also is the people native of this timeline the ones who is fucking up the future, not us, we did nothing wrong. Can you show me your unit's logo?
>The world doesn't need people playing God
You're right; we need people bickering over banal frivolties.
>Ever read Ezekiel 28?
Jesus explicitly made a new covenant with humanity that rendered the old one non-binding. He never mentioned 'You shall have no other gods before me' in his lists of commandments.
Extra-Biblically, the hatred of pride is a fox-and-the-grapes attitude. You have your pride ripped from you, so you wind up thinking it's normal to not have any and act like everyone needs. Jesus never spoke of that, and even told people to hate their parents and buy swords, and claimed that he'd wipe out all Earthly authority and power. He wasn't non-violent either - he beat Rabbis for lending in a temple. Finally, he said that heaven is within - not in the sky.
It's obvious that he was promising Elohim-tier, life-giving powers to make new men out of clay. God refers to himself in the plural in Genesis - there are many gods who joined forces to create Earth.
>Cor 1 15:45, this is the implication that Adam had a physical and a spiritual body as do well all already
>42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body
Nope - you're born human, die, and are resurrected divine, just like Jesus himself.
>Science is the toolkit of the gods
Rather, I suggested that we lost science, and thus our godhood. I linked to an essay that's basically about constructing gods with science - with the explicit statement that science was how the ancient gods were made.
God doesn't like it when we take away His worship.
That's what happens to the king of Tyre. God still speaks through His prophets.
Babylonian captivity in the Bible would weaved in Yahweh and have different names at times
There is potential we do not incarnate into material life / or even a lower form of life. It is how we return to God
It isn't about killing Him or setting people up above Him, but rather establishing the relationship between us and Him.
CERN guy here. Yep, we're doing a magic ritual involving Bigfoot, UFOs, the Bermuda Triangle, various Hindu and Sumerian gods, one or two demons, and furries, in order to summon a cup of tea.
Hey if u work for Cern u guys should use all that money ur spending and help people who are dying right now mmk help benefit the people who live here rather than ur science and magic fetish
Yeah but what's the point science doesn't believe in afterlife
But it cares about making new medicine that doesn't cure the disease or a new car that eventually won't run out of gas
If we have one life, what is the point of using all of our resources selfishly?
People are dying of hunger, diesease, violence, and meanwhile the world is falling apart, and SCIENCE is concerned with going to fucking Mars and making TV shows.
ALL OF THAT MONEY IS GOING TO WASTE
Vedism was started by people who used a drug called Soma, which was later banned. Krishna would have used Soma. There's conjecture that Soma was Amanita muscaria - which contains unusually high levels of vanadium, which itself can form strong muscles.
Rasayana is Vedic alchemy, and has the explicit purpose of prolonging life and producing potions that grant siddhis. They were processing metal ores and plants to obtain their purified essences, which they then consumed.
For that matter, why the constant references in mythology to making men out of clay? Humans and gods are androids that cyclically evolve to make new humans and gods.
Drugs and education gave me the ego death that praying and religion never did and never will.
Me and many other people want to give this power to everyone. Those who reject it should be given areas where they can keep going on like they always have, where they have absolute authority over gods.
I think gods go off into space to found new worlds anyway, so I don't think there'll be a conflict.
>Of all the Rudras I am Lord Śiva; of the Yakṣas and Rākṣasas I am the lord of wealth [Kuvera]; of the Vasus I am fire [Agni], and of the mountains I am Meru.
It's the whole world, they don't actually care about anybody but their own "advancement"
This new technology comes out and you guys are drooling over the elite class that has the "privilege" to be above you
Were not androids, we just bring our souls back to God through unity with His Spirit.
>drugs and education gave me ego death
>praying and religion never did
Why not all of the above? Because religion, prayer, drugs, and education, they are all activities that can be at the spiritual platform.
Just because you need drugs doesn't mean someone else needs drugs.
>me and many other people want to give this power away
Just a warning of that ending badly, that's all.
Yeah "if" there is no God, according to another atheist
>well he is more right because he doesn't believe in God
Sceinece and it's material advancement is worthless, because they can't even help other people, they gotta go to Mars and collide microscopic particles, too bad if your hungry or are homeless in a foreign country, because we need a new bomb just in case
>It's the whole world, they don't actually care about anybody but their own "advancement"
Welcome to the wholy planet purgatory.
You're here to stay.
If you want out, you know where to go.
>Just because you need drugs doesn't mean someone else needs drugs
What if I told you that I'm aware of that, and that I used to be incredibly frustrated that I couldn't see the divine naturally like other people?
But I don't think most people can perceive the divine without help, and I doubt anyone is going to obtain godlike powers with prayer.
>Just a warning of that ending badly, that's all
It's not my responsibility what others do with the Diamond bodies I give them - but it would be my responsibility if someone got hurt or missed out on an opportunity because I refused to give them one. As well, using such a body myself while not giving them to others is arrogant, elitist and paternalistic.
No one is going to save you but yourself. I want to be the change I want to see in the world.
I'm escaping into the Heaven inside of me, and I'm going to leave the door unlocked for everyone else.
I guess you have never heard the expression "to dance is to live." Who wouldn't want to own a pet goat, anyone with the means to own a pet goat should own a pet goat, they eat whatever climb up steep cliff, it's awesome.
These threads are always heavy. Great /x/ material. But it's always comforting to see posts like this >>17201833
Maybe we really are about to kick of Valve's Half Life scenario, if we haven't already (Montauk project and such).