What are /x/'s thoughts on snuff films? Do you think they exist? Have you ever seen one?
I myself believe there's an underground circuit of snuff films that tie in with the secret pedophilia rings.
people say nay. I say, if you look long and hard enough you will find what you seek.
I've never chased it, but I used to rubberneck goregasm back in the day to sate my interests in the ways death takes one to the next world.
When I was a wee lad in the early days of the Internet, stuff like brutally hard core cp and snuff films where rare but obtainable. The things I used to get posing as a young girl on aim chat would blow your mind
DO they exist? Undoubtedly. It's a long, dark path towards finding them. I definitely remember in the old days of the internet weird videos were much easier to find....never saw anything outwardly evil but there were a few web communities where I got the distinct sense you could find the darker stuff if you gained the trust of the right people
>Some murderers have recorded their acts on video. Documentary film makers and television news crews have also captured footage of executions, suicides, and accidental deaths. The resultant footage is not usually considered to constitute a snuff film because the deaths were not enacted in a for-profit film.
I have some stuff on my old pc from back in the late 90's early 00's that would make you shit your pants.
Back then the internet was truly the wild west. Crime was more rampant as well and a lot of things that should have seen the light of day did.
I believe there are real snuff films out there. But they aren't the type you can just find on the internet. It would be more of a hands on, know somebody, type of transaction to purchase or view the film.
It's like a paradox. There's no way there could be such a demand for it (obviously with the amount of fake stuff there is) and it not exist. Yet there's no way it would exist and not get caught eventually and the official stance is that the police have never found a legitimate one, despite lots of investigating. It's weird. Doesn't seem like it can be the case either way.
I use to work at a video store with an adult section. I heard people talking about video stores they implied had videos you had to know how to ask for.
I'm sure it did exist and still does. Although video stores are dead now. And it was prolly mostly cp they were talking about
If this is how you define it then there are a few easily accessible ones on the internet, I'm pretty sure all of them were passed around 4chan when they were first released or found.
Well, I found that the ,true, anonymity of the Internet at that time made people feel much safer showing off their depravity.
It started small, guys trying to get me to talk about some of the more obscure fetishes (forced lactation/impregnation, water sports and scat, choking, etc.) Then a guy sent me some beast porn he had made.I started developing a hobby out of getting these perverted videos out of people.
After a few months I got some guy to give up a few from his "private collection" it included beast,ca and some guy brutally whipping a girl that was naked and hooded.
The snuff came about 6 months into my prying. A guy was saying some really weird things about wanting to tie me up and do some knife play with me and encouraging me to try auto exotic asphyxiation. (Mind, I was posing as a fucking 16 year old girl)
After a few weeks he sent me a film at random. It was of a guy using a knife on this girl in a, I guess, sexual way. She was moaning excitedly and he was getting her off. After about 20 minutes he moved behind her and pushed the knife to the back of her neck. The video still had 5 or so minutes but I was fucking done. The guy had left a message saying "are you ready?" Nope right the fuck out of that account and let that hobby die forever.
The Internet was truly awesome back then but it was also terrifying as fuck
That was an act of cannabilism, not one meant for profit. Snuff? Yes, but not the proof of the kind I'm looking for.
This is what bothers me. Serial killers are the type who would enjoy these types of films, however, those are only a handful of the population and there is no profit to be gained from it. At the same time, not all depraved people are killers.
That's not really what a snuff film is, there's plenty of war footage to go around that's not considered snuff. Snuff is more where the killing is predetermined and it's recorded for profit or entertainment.
I just deleted everything. I was 15, man. My first instinct was that t was an elaborate fetishes film...but that gurgling and her gasp when the knife went in was something that just couldn't be faked.
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The closest thing to a "snuff" film i've ever seen was a man strapped in a chair and getting tortured by a guy shoving ling needle- like rods through his nose. I doubt it was a snuff film in the sense that someone was hired to make it, but the content seemed fucking snuffy enough.
It was on a website that was shut down awhile ago, and I haven't been able to find it since. I believe the website was called fuckingshocking.com. The site was taken down and took that video with it.
It was honestly the most disturbing video I've seen. Does anyone remember what I'm describing?
This makes me think of that video of some woman in a bathtub. She's restrained and hooded IIRC and it's just a few minutes of footage as she slowly drowns to death.
It's speculated to be fake but I always found it convincing.
Anyone have a link or image of that pasta about the snuff films told in first person about like 3 or 4 different characters? I think it was called goodnight child or something. It was all about snuff films and the story was actually really compelling and exciting, scary as fuck too. read it like 4 or so years ago and havent been able to find it since.
The people who make it and demand it are, for the most part, people with a lot of power and money, people on whom the law has no effect. They get away with it, and probably always will.
Would you guys act in this?
I mean if this game was real?
I'm thinking Mexico too.
Ok so if we decide that snuff films are filmed and planned, for profit, and have someone murdered well, I'm not sure if I've ever heard of that existing. Death footage and murders on tape (like the Meiwes tapes that have never seen the light of day as far as I know) are plentiful, but I have never heard of any hint of an actual "snuff film" anywhere. Honestly I kind of don't see the point, unless someone has a specific fetish for a very specific kind of fetish (or specific kind of person dying) anything you want can easily be found. Anyone rich enough to have his fetish catered to is unlikely to have uploaded it anywhere and, as mentioned above, is probably able to see the real deal in certain countries.
Who would be stupid enough to buy snuff films when there's free beheading videos and such online for free? Or is it that they have an actual plot to them like some porn movies do?
But if it were only the elite who are into and buying this sort of stuff, then the demand cant be that high. Unless they spend a rather large amount of money per film. But still, the amount of work that would go into making it(murdering someone) would be a difficult task, unless you're in the military.
I am absolutely certain, that at some point in human history, a woman has been paid for sex on film and then murdered, yes. But I'm not sure about sex rings that actually produce this stuff at volume. I think private collectors have hidden/destroyed tapes they paid a ton for.
I remember like 8 or 9 years ago when i was in school this one kid was showing us clips of people who were high as fuck cutting their dicks off or strapping fireworks to them and blowing them off, also using a chisel and hammer to cut their fingers off.
Same kid would show us videos of women being fucked by different animals.
Yea I remember the good ol' lime and frostwire days with faces of death and all I was just a kid and didn't know about proxies and shit I'm sure that pawnshop put my dad in some database for the shit that was left on that old box lol
Holy shit I posted asking for this a few weeks ago and nobody knew what I was talking about. I'm pretty sure the guy who wrote it was an English major or something because the writing was LIGHTYEARS ahead of any other "creepypasta" I've read. The fact I can't find anything about it makes it even creepier.
A modicum of snuff can be most efficacious.
yep, they exist. saw a few many, many, many years back.
i had asked a long time friend if they could get a hold of any, they asked why in the hell would i want to see something like that, so i went looking myself and after some time i stumbled upon what i sought.
then i realized it wasn't something i was actually into and never went looking again.
i mean, you THINK it's something interesting that you should see at least once, but it is just flat out disturbing. but hey, to each their own.
I'm pretty sure its around and works just like in 8MM. You will never see the real deal on the internet its all in person. The fucks that like this stuff probably keep the tapes in stashed.
>What are /x/'s thoughts on snuff films?
Oh god not this shit again.
>Do you think they exist?
No! There is probably more evidence of for fairies, big foot, or faith healing then there is for snuff films.
>Have you ever seen one?
No, no one actually has, the people that claim they have never offer proof. Unlike some of the people in this thread I actually have looked through all of my teen years into my early twenty out of morbid curiosity.
Snuff is and has always been a urban legend. There is no one selling this shit, no one buying this shit, no one make these films for profit, no snuff at all.
If anyone does not believe me all one has to do is actually prove it. Post something or shut the fuck up.
This is wrong, scripting has nothing to do w/ the definition of "snuff"
If the murder/death was captured of film & then distributed for profit, you've got snuff
SIDENOTE- everyone in this thread should watch 8MM. A film related to the topic of snuff
it sure would. so would that magnotta vid. don't let these idiots fool you, snuff is real. the only reason people say it's not is because that's the "official" message that's read from authorities. they made up all these requisites to downplay their existence so people won't go out looking for that shit.
a snuff film is just someone get snuffed, killed. that's why it's called a snuff film. that's all there is to it.
>the people that claim they have never offer proof.
it's difficult to provide proof of something that can be incredibly hard to find to begin with. especially if it floats around the internet, it'll get pulled fast. lets also cover that that the redistribution of something like that is going to land you in a heap of trouble, and that's putting it lightly.
I guess it goes in to how you define snuff, but look at this crazy bitch.
>tl; dr her and her then husband mutilated and raped some women and video taped it all
The fucked up part is, she's out of jail and living on a tropical island (literally) with a new husband and a kid.
I think the "for profit" criterion doesn't make sense anymore. Maybe 30 years ago when distribution was more difficult.
These days, there's no profit to be made distributing illegal media, because anyone who's willing to watch illegal content is going to download it illegally too.
If you *insist* that snuff needs to be for profit, then the internet killed snuff.
I've seen lots of people die on /b/. Faces of Death and LiveLeak and all that shit.
Now if you mean like, fucking a chick and then offing her I don't know. I'd say it's probably legit but hard to find.
The only reason there's a debate about whether snuff films exist is because of the technicality, "it has to have been made for commercial purposes."
You can watch literally thousands of videos online that are the equivalent of what a snuff film would look like.
Fuck me, my brother-in-law's ex-girlfriend was related to that girl (either sisters or cousins, I forget).
She was a low-grade psychopath (as in, the type of person who thinks they're being manipulative and cruel, but is too stupid to pull it off).
Being this gullible
It was not snuff because they did not make the video to profit off it, with is the defining characteristic of snuff.
There are plenty of vids of death and murder but they are not snuff because they don't fit the definition of snuff.
There are no laws anywhere in the western world against the possession and distribution of "snuff". If you think otherwise then you are welcome to check for yourself. Child porn is 1000X more illegal to possess and distribute, it quickly pulled down when the authorities find it, and floats around the internet yet there is FUCK TONS of it if you look in the right places and everyone who has been on 4chan long enough has probably seen some at least once even if they did not want to.
It's difficult to provide proof of something that does not exist. Just face it, there is no one out there making murder videos for profit, and there is no big conspiracy to cover it up.
Oldfag here. Belief in this shit is a vestige of a preinternet world. Once upon a time (early 90s) cp was hard to get because you had to physically order tapes. The second it went online you could, and can, find it everywhere. If snuff were real, the same principle would apply. So why can't you find it everywhere? Because it didn't, and doesn't, exist. People once swore they saw weird tapes and illegal shit because you had to know how to find it once upon a time. Knowing how meant you were 'cool' or at least knew 'edgy' people.
What about that weird email spam thing people got ages ago which sent them to a website with random videos of random doing nothing, can't remember specifics at the time. But then there were a few random ones which involved a tortured chimp who ran in and tore a women to shreds? I'm at work and can't remember specifics about these videos.
A snuff film to me would be where a victim (girl or guy) walks into a room on their own free will most likely thinking its for a sexual act. Then after some time fooling about that person is tortured and killed.
I think they probably exist or have anyway. There's enough sick bastards out there to do anything, and if CP is real I'm sure someone has made a snuff film
Uhh, I'm sorry, can someone fill me in on what the story is behind this?
It almost looks like auto erotic asphyxiation, but I guess you could make a humping motion as you choke to death...?
The dude decided to commit suicide with a power cord and posted about it on flashback (a swedish forum) most of the replies were people telling him to go through with it and he did, but not before setting up a a livestream of it. Wearing a "just do it" tee.
I have no idea if it's normal or not, but it worked since the dude's dead. He took a bunch of pills before doing it so that might've contributed in some way, idk. His name was Marcus Jannes if you're feeling like looking him up. The original thread where he posted that he was about to commit suicide is still up too, although it's in Swedish so it'd be a pain for the ones who don't speak it
I believe in redemption, and I think people can change for the most part. But.....
Karla needs to get what's coming to her. It's not the crime that bothers me, it's everything she did after.
> claim to have been forced to commit crimes by husband
> hide evidence showing her willfully and joyfully committing crimes
> mislead jury
> lie under oath
> obtain plea bargain by selling out her husband (who is doing life)
> serve a minimal prison sentence in a white collar jail
> have a lesbian affair while in jail
> get out of jail, move to the tropics, and start a new family
She is AT LEAST as guilty as her ex husband and he rots in jail while she gets to play soccer mom.
I really cannot think of a form of torture that would be too cruel to do this woman.
I would say probably given just about anything that can be filmed has been.
>someone on 4chan mentions at some point coming across cp at some point
Don't be such a pussy or better yet just leave this site clearly isn't for you.
Shhh don't tell the newfags bout that shit its supper secret oldfag shit
Why can't you? He hung himself in that position and passed out. He was there for at least twenty minutes before cops burst in. The entire video is somewhat disturbing, his face goes a shade I didn't think was possible. Totally pink/purple.
Snuff films are not about some random sand niggers getting rekt in the middle east, it's about children getting sodomized with blunt objects until they bleed, forced to eat shit and vomit, be tortured in various unspeakable ways, and not only children, women too. There has to be a sexual aspect to it, it has to satisfy certain fetishes. The people who are most interested in this kind of stuff is people in high places, with a lot of money and power, who get off by showcasing this power by acquring this stuff.
I've been in a snuff film before.
There was this place you could pay to kill someone, random people they nabbed off the streets I guess.
Chainsaws, torture kits, drowning, electrocution, chemical, simply shooting, anything you wanted really.
Pic related, it's one of the tools I used.
I can remember back in the days of dial up, a school friend of mine had a list of long URLs his dodgy uncle and him had looked up. He told me they were things they found online, and I asked for an example. He told me one was a video of "satanists" having sex, at the end of which the women cut the dude's dick off and started chomping on it. My pal told me he nearly threw up when he saw it - I asked why did you watch? He claimed his uncle's defence, which was "you can't stop yourself". too scared to look it up myself so no idea if legit or not. This is why I hate seeing pictures of mutilated male genitalia that occasionally gets onto /b/.
... What does that have to do with snuff films?
When I was a wee lad in the early days of Santa, stuff like video games and widescreen televisions were rare but obtainable. The presents I used to get posing as an elf in the North Pole would blow your mind.
one time i was riding my bicycle from Saigon to Phnom Penh and stopped for the night in the border town of Moc Bai/Bavet, which is basically a strip of casinos
I was outside my hotel drinking beer when a group of guys sat down next to me, some of them were dressed really nicely/Viet Gangster style all tattoos and gold chains and the other half were in military fatigues and kind of beat up
one guy, who spoke the best English, offered me a job taking money back and forth across the border (i declined, because i'm not trying to get mixed up in whatever kind of scam that is)
anyway he told me that the casinos have jails in their basements where they keep people who can't pay their debts after they gamble all their money away.
first the casinos notify the family of the gamblers
then, if they haven't received payment, they send parts of the (still living) debtors to the families- first a finger, then a hand, and so forth
finally, if it becomes clear that the family isn't going to bail out their relative, the debtor is killed and his organs are sold for the purpose of transplants.
he then asked me if i had any relatives in the U.S. in need of a new heart or kidney.
I said: Thanks but no thanks! and went off and got really drunk on the free booze at the hotels.
oh, one more thing: in cambodia, there are places where you can pay a hundred bucks or so to shoot an AK-47 or bazooka at animals- chickens for $20, pigs for $50, and cows for $100, or whatever
one day at a very sleazy bar in phnomh penh i was sitting with a group of australians who were really shaken up about something- apparently they had just returned from one of these target practice ranges and while they were leaving, a group of germans arrived. as the australians drove away, they saw a young child being led out of a nearby building with a bag over his head.
fuuuuuuuck this terrible world
on the other hand, i guess i got the hookup for cheap black market organs
oh and the shooting kids for money this is definitely real, my old manager lived/worked in cambodia for 4 years and she said that there's a group of long-term expats that set it up through the same darknet channels that CP sex tourism goes through. (forums? idk really) but that she had met some of the people involved
cambodia is a fucked place
>>15417165 its so fucking fascinating to think that this kind of stuff goes on daily, and nobody has a clue. Even where I live in BFE you hear about liquor stores that sell dope on the side.
I understand. These days I cry when watching some movies, which I never did a few years ago. Although I can still detach myself from the really fucked up shit to stop it from bugging me.
i did. i was. but, i don't think i quite understood it all when i was younger, as i do now. took a break for more than a couple years and now im back : |
realized how pathetic, degenerate, painful, and attention seeking a lot of shit on this site is. I try to stay away from the Misc boards and really only visit stuff in interests/creative/other (where you wont find much debauchery). don't care or want to be desensitized again.
Hey kiddo, how's your rough draft coming along for that 2 page lit essay? Oh, and make sure to show your work/how you got your answer on that algebra homework - ya won't get full credit if you dont!
>captcha implying we don't get it...pff
I recently came upon a video from a Brazilian prison. One of the inmates had been held by gang members, and his legs were skinned.
He was still alive, for a while at least.
I only watched about 20 seconds. At some point you have to make a conscious choice not to watch such material. It's better for your mental health I think, regardless if you can deal with it.
>at some point you have to make a conscious choice not to watch such material. it's better for your mental health i think, regardless if you can deal with it.
yeah, i agree i totally agree. you'll only harm yourself by digging through/watching/coming across the depraved shit from more obscure channels. but there is surely something to be said about being aware of the problems that plague/corrupt society. only when people are aware of it can something actually be done to stop it and prevent it.
in other words, "ignorance is bliss" rings true - but it doesn't stop the exploitations. people shouldn't turn a blind eye to this kinda stuff.
Does this still go on in Cambodia? I.e. can someone just go to a place where you can kill farm animals (not kids) with a machine gun? Is it hush hush, or is it normal over there?
Uhhh let's talk about this, because people HATE that cunt. She's never seemed sorry at all. If you read the details, didn't she also rape and kill her own little sister with her husband & film it?
>all these made up stories
Holy shit I knew /x/ went to shit but holy shit it's worst than last year, fuck.
>worst than last year, fuck.
Downward spiral hasn't ended yet! BUCKLE UP!
People say no, but I don't buy it. I mean, I'm sure there are people out there who get off on snuff films. And if there is a market for it people are going to produce, just like pedophilia. I find it far more unbelievable that snuff films would not exist
En mass, like CP? Nah, I doubt it. Cops would have turned something up either in transaction phases or based on the selection process for the 'stars'.
However, I can believe that in isolated cases individuals may have commissioned snuff films. Not often by any means, though, and not distributed in any networks.
I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the gore vids online that show premeditated murder are snuff films that were uploaded without context.
People always say Daisy's video is hard to find or ridiculously expensive to buy.
I found the first part of the footage for free in one of the tons of video galleries the DW has... So I imagine the rest can be found too.
It's probably something like the author sold it to a publisher or whatever and removed all the online versions so people couldn't just read it for free.
Doesn't seem that creepy. Would -love- to read the thing, though, any more info?
>after years of 4chan
anyone who isn't desensitized to tame stuff like descriptions of "snuff films" hasn't even been on 4chan a year. They're most likely from either the last tumblr raid or the fappening
fuck you cunts are weak.
want to see a bunch of sand niggers kill themselves/other
/b/ use to be full of cp.
ll you twelvies should change your tampons and go back to 9gag
So I read this thread last night while watching the Vice video about the suicide forest and then some other weird shit and then read more stuff about Karla Homolka and Armin Meiwes and the weird news anchor woman that killed herself live on air.
Then I turned off the light and had the worst night's sleep I've had in a long while.
/b/ was never anything more than it is now, cp was never posted anymore than it is now. It was never allowed, people have been banned and reported for it since 4chan launched.
Only newfriends believe the hype.
I depends what you mean by 'for-profit'.
Made, produced, filmed and then expecting to find a (relatively) wide audience, like with CP? No.
Commissioned in rare cases? I absolutely believe this.
Damn, I've always wanted to venture into that part of the internet.
I'm just so damn fascinated by the horrors people can commit, some people are so fucked up
But the best I can get is liveleak and bestgore
A few months ago on tumblr, there was an uproar because hundreds of CP blogs had been found. Like straight up CP, they didn't even try to be secretive about it. I vomited at one point, it was some messed up stuff.
All you had to do was search "young teen" and then bam. Paedo Paradise.
The blogs also had links to some websites where you could find fucked up shit like that, loads of CP and snuff-ish videos.
It must exist. The internet taught me that.
What scares me is how difficult it is to find. That really speaks to who is involved in this shit. I've seen obscure news reports from previous decades that vaguely reference these types of films involving children but never go into detail. It's all really fucked up stuff that makes me feel terrible because of how hidden it is.
I'm sure someone more informed than I can give you the details on the Marc Dutroux case:
Fucking frustrating case
>videos confiscated from his house
>videos never watched
>duh we don't have a tape player
>reports from mother twice. One from locksmith and police themselves reported screams inside the house
Po po was so in on it.
Find it hard to believe that if any are real, none have leaked to the wild. Especially given CP will get you life with no parole anyway.
On top of that, given the nature and wide spread of gore videos now coupled with horrific shit like extreme bdsm cp, on one hand I find it weird that snuff wouldn't exist or be leaked or that it doesn't really matter anyway, because stuff just as bad is out there.
It doesn't really exist. Not in the classical sense. It doesn't need to, as some anons have pointed out, because what does exist is just as bad. If it existed, it would have made its way to /b/ back in the day...because the stuff that did was every bit as bad.
But the internet is full of videos of people being murdered. Tortured too. Shit is on Facebook.
The guy even said "bestgore is a snuff site then?"
Which, according to you...it is. Since it's full of videos of people being murdered.
Snuff is commercial pornography featuring real murders. It doesn't exist. Much like the worst CP, it doesn't need to be industrialized, because content is created without a profit motive and then exchanged, exhibited, distributed and sold by multiple other non content creators.
Want to see a woman with her tits oit getting beheaded? No need to pay an organized crime syndicate to do it. Just go to youtube when the cartels put out a new release.