Boyd Bushman - His Last Interview: A Documentary on Area 51 and UFO's over Tucson, Arizona
Shortly before Boyd Bushman passed away on August 7, 2014, he was video recorded candidly speaking about his personal experiences with Area 51, UFOs, aliens and anti-gravity ideas. Boyd was a retired Senior Scientist
for Lockheed Martin. His career spanned over forty years, was awarded many patents, and included work with defense contractors Hughes Aircraft, General Dynamics, Texas Instruments, and Lockheed Martin.
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Anons that are baffled by how to use the catalog think they know all about how UFOs work.
Or even more plausible, a shill had one knocked up by a props company. I haven't seen any alien doll that looks like Boyd's pic, or the prior leak of the same from John Hutchison, outside of skeptic replies to the same. The doll is much smaller than the pic, for starters.
>there's no good photos of UFOs
>how about some reputable source
Verified senior skunkworks engineer, with patents used on top-secret aircraft.
>CRAZY DEMENTIA OLDMAN!!!!!
When people wonder how something so astounding can remain covered up, one just needs to consider that they don't even try to keep it a secret. They just blow smoke and let useful idiots do the rest.
It's not hard to make people disbelieve the unbelievable, in fact many people who see UFOs with their own eyes cannot believe it.
they look exactly like it. just different coloring. it was designed by a guy named dan post who made the first one, thats in roswel. believe some more nutter
nice way to not answering the question. I'm saying the picture is fake and show a stuning proof of a doll looking exactly like the pic. You say it's debunked, now i'm asking you to show me why it's debunked.
I can't tell if someone was lying to the old man or if there's actual truth in this. Guy seemed pretty convinced, but I just don't know. Hard to take any of this with more than a grain of salt.
Yay, the especially unimaginative /x/ moron's brigade has a new chant that's longer and more obnoxious than "shill"! It's a brave new fucking world we're living in!
There sure are a lot of people relentlessly shutting down this topic across the internet, classic 4D deflection. You've got to ask yourself, what's so special about this video that folks are working so hard to shut down any discussion.
Because they're retards and their stupid little chant sucks. It's for your own good, anon. Stop acting like a moron and I'll stop treating you like one. Everyone wins!
Friendly reminder that the 4Ds and other manipulation techniques are documented in the Snowden leaks.
Please read and familiarize yourself with the techniques, it helps when trying to get some signal from the noise.
Lockheed Martin isn't just aviation, it's aeroSPACE. A key player, in fact, in space exploration.
A key field of research in improving space exploration and travel? Ion drives. A key drawback in developing such drives? Insufficient energy sources. A good solution? Sustained fusion energy.
So their stake in the discovery is pretty obvious. A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING ANON
Seeds of doubt being placed into mainstream media, who would usually ignore or sideshow this sort of article. Good to see it's getting some viral love.
been reading about this guy.
>pretty strange if true.
anyway wonder if any x/philes can help. am looking for reports that one of the kings consorts was visited either by an alien or MIB.
I think i once saw a thread on ATS about it and the guy was in high power in english aristocracy. he was like either consort to the prince or man at arms to the king or something.
he also released a book which is called something like 'conversations from a darkened room'.
defo defo remember reading it but now can't find anything.
>any helps greatly appreciated.
Not this fucking thread again. Itd debunked 100 times over, get over it
i made these. Dude, as an astro physics major, they're real.
When I got to the part about the poster contacting Boyd and getting just a "WHEN AND CONSULTING FEE?" It made me wonder. Did he have some caretaker who might have been using him for capital gain. Family maybe. Speculation of course.
This pic from a Roswell souvenir store is interesting. While the toy aliums clearly are different than Boyd's photo, they aren't a million miles different. Also consider the following:
>both Boyd's photo and these dolls actually look markedly different than the mainstream gray alien meme
>there are people in Roswell who allegedly saw alium bodies
>it's possible these alium props are based on actual sighting description
>therefore similar to the real thing
>the real thing being Boyd's photo
Guys, the parts of the Universe where these photos were taken from have never had ANY human made space probes travel near them. These photos are also mathematically accurate. Also these photos are what these planets would look like if taken with a camera from space
probably because you think there is too much detail for a camera right? Well check this out, here is a photo taken by a hand held camera with no 8 hour exposure bullshit. Now imagine if the atmosphere wasn't there because you were in space.
www.smithsonianjourneys.org1001 × 656Search by image
Jupiter and its four moons taken with a handheld camera in x32 zoom. (Image courtesy of Flickr user treehouse1977.)
Like what? Anyway you may be onto something as the USA is clearly on its last legs as we know it. The elite are throwing out all of the endgame plans at once and nothing's sticking. Such as Ukraine, Middle East, Ebola: all obvious ploys to keep the USD as the oil reserve currency. The Fed just pulled the plug on stimulus, basically the life-support that has kept the economy barely ticking along since 2008. It's all going to crash at the last gasp, which is xmas shopping season. Retailers and manufacturers are desperate for an exceptional boost from xmas shopping, and nobody has any money to spend, nobody can afford credit.
So perhaps you're right, this may be an initial plausible deniability disclosure as a contingency to the whole lot coming to light if the economy and government totally collapse.
Humans aren't real guys. Just a toy.
Its a world where everything is stylized and every fifteen minutes someone has to die a bloody death or else an incredibly long scene involving pointless dialog having nothing to do with the plot will take place.
Its a terrible world I wouldn't recommend going their.
are you trying to tell me that Quintonia has $5 milkshakes? they're pretty fucking good, from what i hear
Actually you guys missed the big one. He said it had "SIX" toes. This only has five. they forgot the sixth toe haha. He also said the government spent hundreds of thousands to make him look foolish.
Holy shit man while it's healthy to be sceptical, the virulence of the attempt to shut this particular vid down is something I haven't seen for a long time. I'm of the opinion that there's fire behind this smoke.
I observe that plenty of props identical to Boyd's photos are coming out of the woodwork, but I haven't seen a single pic which was posted prior to the original posting of John Hutchison's leak, or outside of debunking discussion. Interesting to observe.
I have not read anything in this thread. Only trying to see this video. It's been taken down from youtube. Just wanna see this fucking video haha. Anyone got a link for it somewhere else? thanks in advance
Interesting, the second pic has been taken down. These tinypics are from the original debunk some years back, why down now?
Oh big surprise, new photos appear apparently from "ebay a month ago", these ones they've detailed with veins as per Boyd's pic. Pity that I can't source the pic anywhere other than the source on ATS...
You look no better than a religious nutjob when people like you go on like this and that is why you see the reaction from people telling you that there is nothing there.
I actually think people like you are genetically pre-disposed to believe all things are interconnected like webster tarpley.
Nothing linked to this thread looks even remotely legit, the 'alien' looks exactly like that toy.
guy probabally wants to cash in. everyone goes the whitley streiber route. people will pay to much.
spooky twist on the video being removed, with it trending everywhere even on facebook.../x/ better summon it's pizza power
I am blatantly lying ITT right now. And nobody knows it.
Wow, I've seen the photos and done the comparisons, but it is very creepy to see this one surfacing now. I wonder what the size of it is? Is it scaled up in order to match the hand for scale? The smile is definitely tweaked, and the veins are a totally new feature. Where are all of these different versions of the same alien popping up from?
Boyd must be telling the truth.
no reason, he was puppeting like 4 accounts and was acting hysterical. ATS is not old ya know, the user base have been there forever and were involved in the ufo field long before that..
oP got banned because op is acting like a maniac not even acknowledging evidence & literally posting the video all over the internet..
OP needs to chill out a little bit,
Source seems to be abovetopsecret forums for all of the doll picks. Take a look at the (big) thread there and see for yourself.
Hit the arrow to go to the last page.
That's not the extent of what has brought me to my conclusion. I'm looking at this in the same way that most the people in this thread have, from two different perspectives. On one side there is Boyd, a Lockheed Engineer presenting claims and evidence of working in government black programs through his employer. The guy has numerous patents and has done A TON with his life.
On the other side there are skeptical parties clinging to the fact that a toy looks similar to the alien in Boyd's photos. This toy is not the same as the alien in said photos upon further inspection, but now a slightly altered model has appeared that seems to fit the bill. Isn't that a little suspicious? Do my questions make a little more sense now?
I just want to know where these things are coming from and why they're being used to discredit a Lockheed Engineer so quickly.
Same here, there are valid questions as to the dubunking as well as the motives; many outlined in this very thread without any answer besides ad-hominem.
Here's your problem. You're evaluating everything except the raw data. In short, you're base-ackwards-ing the whole process.
Start short. Assume nothing. Evaluate Boyd's claims objectively. When inductive and deductive reasoning are employed, what do you draw from his claims?
If something, run with it.
If nothing, you're done.
What you're trying to do is play a personality game which fails from the start.
Awesome Subgenius. Didn't even have to stare at it.
You're making the mistake of trying to be forceful when you lack either strength of character or concept of reason. You're only going to ever look stupid that way.
Trying to do that. Assuming that this was the real Boyd Bushman with all his acomplishments earlier in life (I've seen suggestions that it might not be real him, but I have no reason to believe that this is true) as was stated in the article I first found the video in, some general thoughts have arisen.
The old man definitely believed it and had no reason to do it for acknowledgement or money or anything, because he was near death.
I also had thoughts earlier in life that if those 'top secret' agencies know something, some people might tell something eventually. Ones that have nothing to lose. Did this happen? Maybe.
First statement of mr. Boyd that I thought about severely was 'they live in a planet 68ly away and only take 45minutes to reach our planet'. I am a 4th year physics undergraduate and logically assumed, that this is impossible. But then quickly thought about what I've learned from philosophy lectures this year (note: I am not religious, I will just use term 'god' in the model to make it clearer for you and myself):
God exists in our minds as something that we cannot explain. For earlier humans it was the phenomenon of lightning, weather, earth, sun, planets, for us - something beyond, because we gathered enough knowledge about complicated laws of nature and many cosmic events. But there still is something that we cannot explain and/or even comprehend. For example, imagine what is beyond our universe? What was before big bang? Where did all the energy come from? If it all was there forever, try to imagine this 'forever'. Difficult, isn't it?
I have no doubts that there are other civilisations in our universe. It's just that it is impossible to contact them. But this is my brain speaking, which believes mostly in something I can sense or imagine with reference to my current knowledge of laws of nature. We have to take into account, that those 'aliens' with higher mental capabilities might have learned things, that are still 'god' to us.
Thereis very high probability, that if there are other life forms in the universe, we are not the smartest ones. Those, having knowledge beyond our imagination, can do things that now we barely have complex mathematical theories for. I am not yet strongly familiar with string theory or wormhole theories, but if somebody made a theory about those, some civilisation with higher knowledge might have already created something like that in practice.
And regarding the toys, they might have been created after the claimed 'contacts' to dilute everything. Weird thing I found today is that it is almost impossible to find any of these toys manufacturers or distributors. I might haven't searched hard enough, but still.
I am concluding, that I am unsure whether mr Bushman was saying truth or not, but so should be you.
The laws of physics aren't immutable law, they are theory and of all of them, the theories around gravity lack a lot of understanding of the actual physical force and make a lot of assumptions. One assumption is that the propagation of gravitational waves is luminal, but it is an assumption based on the dogma of causality re superluminal propagation.
It may be these assumptions of physics are holding us back and the true nature of spacetime continues to elude us, while ayylmaos pop about the cosmos at will. Something to consider.
Been watching this thread, and personally, I doubted the existence of the shills. Seriously, this is fucking textbook, if you look at the right posts.
(I almost took that bait myself. Ayyyyyyy lmao)
INITIATE FORUM SLIDE, SHILLS!
But seriously. After this bumps, let's take a moment to see how many bullshit topics are actually bumped after it.
well i don't really see the big deal.
I believe in aliens and think they already landed or crashed here and many officials have openly said in speeches or general talks/interviews aliesn are real and have been here.
This guy worked in area 51, for all we fucking know everything about the video was real except for the alien doll, maybe he's the shill showing real evidence, laughing at people who are going to discredit the whole thing with the doll, one last dis-info before he goes.
This guy has a reputation and who knows what he is saying is true, untrue, partially true ect.
Aliens exist and have visited earth. i don't need this guy to prove it to me. and any mainstream thread will end of AYYY LMAO until we see ufo's flying across the sky.
and even then, it could just be our reverse engineered version of die glocke and many other cool top secret inventions stolen from the world.
here's a 2 hour podcast from 2007 from boyd
I don't know why I have to post these things all the time. it's like nobody researchs anymore and expects to be fed by the trending feeds
I never really thought there were shills here before.
This thread is strange though.
All the people who don't believe it never actually give an argument other than, "It's a Kmart doll you piece of fuck".
Usually if there are skeptics on this board they are making actual arguments and point out logical fallacies in the perpetrators statements.
There are so many posts that are simply just "It's fake faggot"
Maybe it is true, about the shills.
well that same alien has been for sale for years. I've almost bought it on a number of occasions and have seen it at my local county fair. the black one in the pictures is just the glow in the dark one. but, maybe the model itself is disinfo? either way. it has to be all from the same model from the one at roswell. but, either way. it all looks sketchy. as for boyd...his credentials check out...wether disinfo wasn't trying to throw him off too? well that maybe. watch the movie mirage men. but, theres more to it than that movie. the aviary was a group of guys who had names like birds like movie shills "the eagle" "the hawk" but, as far as I know, only one of them has been outed. so there is vast network of folk who purposely are paid to make sure we believe in aliens...boyd could of been a victim of such. or maybe he was telling the truth.
Aliums know we spoke it and many of our words come from it.
Not saying I believe it, but it is possible.
They probably said that because we couldn't even comprehend what their planet's name is, if there even is a name for it.
its funny because on the wiki page it says
>Another source observed there were no obituaries for anyone named "Boyd Bushman" since the August date of his supposed death
but i looked up boyd bushman dead and found
Indredastin, very indredastin. The guy is being disappeared. I'd keep an eye on those patents, would be at all surprised if they vanished.
This page is quoted as a source.
Article dated October 29, 2014:
>However, Whitley Strieber, it turns out, knows a respected reporter who interviewed Mr. Bushman in 2012, and came away with two impressions: 1. his story was very weak, as was his description of his background; 2. he and his wife both appeared quite uneasy while the documentary crew involved was there.
So, post-dated second-hand anecdote as a source. I'd find the debunking case a lot more credible if there were anything which wasn't post-dated to this video.
If Boyd were the only person with his back-ground making such claims, it would be suspicious enough but he isn't the only person. I think we're looking at a chess-game between those within' the military industrial complex attempting to with-hold disclosure: Vs. those like Bushman who are trying to do the right thing and reveal the truth. They've effectively put the parties behind the cover-up in check-mate at this point, as any action they take in an effort to suppress this information only serves to draw attention to it and highlight It's importance. Expect an attempt to spin the information as all ET's being hostile and necessitating our uniting under a one-world government: Potentially combined with a false-flag invasion, potentially involving real negative ET's that these nefarious hidden branches have allied themselves with. Of course, knowing that they have been here interacting with the Human race since antiquity is going to blow that out of the water. What a surprise that we see disinformation vigorously attempting to discredit that as well.
Yes I believe that the ETs are kept supressed because disclosure would be the very definition of a paradigm shift, and greatly rattle the foundations of the elite control system. It doesn't hurt that the topic is a nice wildcard threat such as terrorism and disease, which are in reality are insignificant and easily mitigated.
Can't you feel your neurons atrophy a little more every time you spam meme's instead of cohesive and original thought?
>else an incredibly long scene involving pointless dialog having nothing to do with the plot will take place.
You mean a scene illustrating that pop culture is actually a major influence in everything in the world of Quintonia?
Let's be honest. The pics of the actual alien look like shit, and you guys know it. The real question is how much is dis info and how dis info was he fed? This is like little speckles of truth on the top of the highest mountain top, we are all at he bottom looking up trying to make sense of everything. You know what? When this stuff goes public and the lid is finally removed, it really wont be that big of a deal. It's going to be a knew all along type scenario. I say just sit back and wait, it's going to happen soon, the world will change. Maybe humans are very special and rare and have tremendous and unlimited potential. Maybe our brains are the most complex things in the universe. Maybe aliens are total idiots when it come to manipulation. Maybe they evolved in emotionless civilizations, maybe the aliens are products of another race tweaking their dna? Ahhh, I'm on the fence, but, how deep does the rabbit hole go?!
The problem isn't the aliens, they don't give a fuck who knows, and that it's pretty much a given that aliens are visiting Earth. The problem is the fact that they've been sitting on technology and science and have basically retarded human progress by decades if not centuries.
If it comes out that they've had tech which would have given everyone in the world a comfortable standard of living, without trashing the planet for the past 50 years, people are going to be mad.
>just want tell my story before die
>reach out to weirdo ufo community
>only people who will listen
>meet nice guy who say he wants to help me get my out
>says he has pictures of E.T he wants me to show during my interviews.
>says it will help my story gather more interest
>pic looks close enough to what I remember
>the nigga gave me a picture of a doll from k-mart
Taken in isolation, whatever. Problem is, plenty of other guys with similar access and confirmed top-secret clearance have come out and all said pretty much the same thing.
The shills working to keep this under wraps think that they are patriots, but the reality is that they're traitors.