What's /x/ thoughts on Orgonite? http://www.orgonite.info/

>>14899150
How does that related to the sempiternal album cover by bring me the horizon? That seal is the cover

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Found three of these otop of our local transformer, didn't know at the time what it was.

>>14899200
It's the flower of life, pleb.

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Orgonite is the shit. An easy way to verify for yourself if your orgonite works is to freeze some water on top or bottom of a piece. Pic related.

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>>14899610
Another one. Orgonized vs. non-orgonized.

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>>14899639
Frozen water from cloudbuster pipes.

http://www.whale.to/b/gifting_effects.html

inb4 snake oil. It's easy and cheap to make and test out yourself.

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>>14899667
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>>14899667
Trippy

I should probably get some for myself. Probably put it under my mattress or leave it in my water pitcher.

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>>14899693
It does change the taste of water. We get our water from one of those supermarket dispensers, which doesn't taste totally clean. If I take a liter of that water and let it sit by some orgonite for 2-3 hours minimum the water starts to taste better.

>>14899735
For some reason, it makes me want to have some in the tub and take a bath with it.

>>14899150
So how to you make it?

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>>14899150

I adore the idea that even though the twisted quack that invented this shit is dead, idiots still buy it and think that his quackery produces more than a lighter wallet.

????????? ?? ? ????? ????????.

>>14899765

It's essentially any combination of metals, crystals, and an organic binding agent (most use resin, though there've been experiments with mud/clay/wax/etc). There's a number of coils which are supposed to affect how the orgone flows, though how effective these are is up for debate. To make a simple piece of orgone is guaranteed to be under $20 (epoxy resin from hobby lobby, some copper nuggets from ebay/any scrap metal you can find, and a quartz crystal from your local meta/gem shop).

You generally seem to want to get an even distribution and a roughly equal amount of resin and metal. The amount of crystal doesn't matter, most just put a singular quartz in the middle.

http://warriormatrix.com/ is where I got a lot of orgonite making tips, and http://www.loohan.com/ has a lot of coil and material tips for orgonite.

>>14899150

"Reich claimed that orgone energy is omnipresent and accounts for such things as the color of the sky, gravity, galaxies, the failure of most political revolutions, and a good orgasm."

Sounds reliable to me, were I lobotomised.

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>>14899758
a post from warriormatrix
> It is awesome! We found that if you fill the tub a little like 1/5 the way. And leave your orgonite in the water for like an hour then fill up the rest to make it hot the water has a Stronger charge than just getting in with the orgonite. We found this one day by filling the tub a little and putting about 5-7 little ones and a hhg in the water. Every so often we would stand in the water to see if it had gotten stronger. And by about 2 hours it felt like the whole tub was buzzing

Try it mang.

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>tfw not long after i saw this thread orgonite pyramids where mentioned in what i'm listening to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpask3kk_4w
26:09

What does it mean?

>>14899774
Also that Orgonite® is a registered trademark

>>14899784

Sounds like a shadow of the Dao to me.

>>14899802

It's registered by Karl Welz, who originally trademarked it to refer to a condensed form of Reich's orgone accumulator (using metal powder and resin rather than layers of organic material and metal). The people credited for the thing most people mean when they say "orgonite" are Don and Carol Croft.

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>>14899796
Synchronicity, brah. Maybe buy a piece to sample or make a bunch yourself for cheap. The ice thing does work. I've also noticed longer and more vivid dreams.

>>14899796

It means that you should calm down because it's likely a simple confirmation bias.

>>14899815
>>14899821
Think i'll probably give it a try. What's the worst that can happen?

>>14899815
What "ice thing"? All ice does that.

This thread make me remember a time when I did a shitload of research on a substance called Monatomic Gold: http://www.whitepowdergold.com/

Has anyone here ever tried it? I never did buy any, but I was and remain extremely interested in it.

>>14899206
If I didn't know any better I would assume it to be a terrorist device, an explosive or something.

You guys should be careful leaving resin.

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>>14899854

>>14899828

Demons

Orgone attracts demons and extra-dimensional beings

>>14899894

Orgonite is supposed to repel negative entities. Buildups of DOR, though, is supposed to attract them (buildups are supposedly caused by things like orgone accumulators near a DOR source like a powerline or the cloudbuster setup)

>>14899922

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eka3cwtKkuQ

>>14899782
Thanks. So is there a balance of metals that you want to achieve or certain metals that work better than others for particular purposes?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that orgone is a thing, not sure that I want to wreck an icecube tray with resin to find out.

>muh plastic

>>14900634

I always see people on WM talk about metals like tin being "toxic" in some way, and silver and gold seem to be used for high quality orgone. If you want to try it out, there are even easier ways than an ice cube tray. WM is pretty big on making molds out of just about anything you can find. One that you see a lot for test molds is the very bottom of a disposable cup.

>>14900656
Yeah, I'm seeing on eBay that there's someone selling orgonite bottle caps and there's a lot of copper and aluminum shavings and bearings being sold as "orgonite supplies" along with crystals and copper wire spirals.

The funny thing is that somewhere around here I have a paper weight with a quarter in it and I'm now really tempted to find it and see if I put it in a bowl in the freezer to see if that works to matrix the water.

How do you measure orgone? Or DOR? (Also what does DOR stand for?)

>>14899796
synchronicity is a sign of high dopamine.

cut back on the gaming, porn and masturbation, and other forms of habituation

>>14900684

The paperweight wouldn't be considered orgonite because it probably lacks a crystal, and I don't think glass counts as an organic binder.

To measure the effectiveness of orgonite, most people use energy sensitives, kirlian photography, that ice test, comparing a plant grown near orgonite to a control, or seeing if people feel/act better around it.

To measure orgone itself, there are a few things that come to mind. There's Reich's Orgone Field Meter (as described here http://www.rogermwilcox.com/reich/orgone_field_meter.html), and IIRC there was some report of Reich using an orgone-laden geiger counter to measure orgone. http://orgonelab.org seems to sell something they call the "Experimental Life Energy Meter" (http://www.orgonelab.org/cart/lemeter.htm), though you always need to be careful when someone tries to sell a fringe science black box.

One last thing comes to mind: The Joe Cell is a fringe-science "free energy machine" that's theorized to actually get its energy from the orgone field (and its output will even vary between areas). Theoretically one could build a very small joe cell and use its output voltage as an indicator of the orgone density (though I have no idea how it differentiates between POR and DOR).

>>14899206
Someone left them there to help block the EMF

>>14903262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waacof2saZw

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>>14899815
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>>14899852
I also have done some of research on my own on Ormus. I was looking into making some but learned that the process included lye, so I thought into buying some.. never did though.

Shouldn't this shit be on /sci/ or something? I'm betting it's a bunch of samefags aswell.

>>14903290
Oh god, NOT EMF.... Oronite REPEL.

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>>14902151
http://orgoniseyourself.com/what-metals-can-i-use-in-orgonite/

The part about going 50/50 metal and resin is important. I've seen pieces like pic related that are mostly just resin, which is not going to be as effective as it could be. The metal/resin matrix is what attracts orgone, while the crystal is what flips "deadly" orgone (DOR) into positive (POR). For your first pieces just stick with regular quartz crystal. It's not a bad idea to cleanse and program the crystals beforehand, too.

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>>14899150

there is a lot of bullshit on /x/ but this always wins

>>14903361

>implying /sci/ would take fringe seriously

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Here are mine, some guy gave me the palm sized one at a flea market, the keychain I found.

Interesting novelty, but there is a charge or sensation you get when holding one.

My friend made me some orgonite and it didn't help me with my schizophrenia.

I'm sitting in one spot most of the day and I put the orgonite near me for hours on end for weeks.

Nothing happened.

It's complete garbage.

>it's just a static electricity link, like lightning rods, but no ground

>>14903434
Pretty..

What is this "resin"?

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>>14903791
fiberglass resin.

>>14903850

Epoxy resin is also often used for more decorative pieces because it's clear.

>>14899610
wow dude

I like the path Reich was taking.

But then:

>In 2000, a couple named Don and Carol Croft discovered through some Internet research and empirical observation
>discovered through some Internet research and empirical observation
>discovered through some Internet

>>14899610
So, this shit actually has some effect on the hydrogen bonding of water as it freezes? Any chemists in here that wanna speculate on how it's doing this?

>>14904060
its ehhh not really.
u can use modern science to explain what these things do.
but it has more to do with the fact water is polarand the way the metal effect the magnetics around the earth

>>14904359
you cant use modern Newtonian physics"

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How is this happening?

>>14905749
Aliums, dude..

>>14904359
That doesn't explain anything dude.

>>14899774
relax man
we are on /x/
we want to believe

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>>14905749

I should probably get into the business of making these.

So what's the formula? Garbage and hot glue?

>>14905749
the intention you're putting out by buying or making this reaches the pre-existent source which will send out specialized energy, that raw, pure, light energy will enrich everything in its surroundings.

>>14908719
This.

Well... either that or the metal in the 'orgonite' is affecting the way the water freezes.

>>14908584
metals of various shapes and sizes
make sure to make coils out of copper
and resin

But garbage is not a bad idea you'd be helping the environment, fucking tree hugger

>>14899894
kek

>>14908584
>So what's the formula? Garbage and hot glue?

Anything works for idiots.

>>14908794
That's just so awesome. All this I've been wondering how someone like me could generate income, when the answer has been all around me since the day I was born. Something this world has in greater supply than fresh water: Idiots.

Welp time to order some hot glue.

pseudoscience
lack of proofs and so on

>>14905749

Was this experiment properly controlled?

It's possible that the surface of the resin + metal chunks structure creates some kind of bubble-nucleation something or other.

To properly conduct this experiment, you'd have to freeze two identical chunks of "orgonite" - as in, same shape and size, both the same type of resin, but one has chunks of metal in it and the other has some other material.

(Also, maybe freeze two other chunks of real and sham orgonite, but using glass costume jewels, or more resin, instead of a crystal.)

Then, repeat multiple times, making sure to swap the containers around.

That would definitely provide a solid and conclusive test.

>>14909128
No further testing is actually required. The reason for the results is staring everyone in the face.

>>14909128
subtle energies.

the structure of these items redirect 'chi', life force

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>>14899206
I stole it.

>>14909190
get out.

The shapes in the ice is caused by the resin contracting during cooling. Water freezes very rigid and expands, and it freezes from the outside in. Resin contract slightly enough that it's apparent in the ice matrix as the water freezes, producing a swirl inward as the water freezes from the outside in, adjusting for the added space the cooling resin gives.

It's cool but yall are morons for thinking garbage in acrylic is mystical. Make some orgonite like you usually would, but don't add any chips or anything, just make a hunk of dried resin in a shape, then do the same experiment. You'll get the same sort of patterns in your ice.

>>14909251
Oh also, the object in the water gives a surface for the ice matrix to begin on, so it adds to the creation of a pattern. "From the outside in" means from the surfaces the water touches, inwards.

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>>14909255
Nobody is putting the orgonite in the water though. The pieces are always outside of the glass when in the freezer and sometimes not even touching the glass the either.

>>14909228
Shell casings?

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>>14909251
man that has nothing to do with it. The metals inside the blob of resin are drawing the heat away from the water as it freezes. faster than just the straight cold air can.

the parts of the water that freeze first push the air in the water away. This is why the bubbles are alwyas in the center of ice cubes. The outsides of the cube freeze first and force the air bubbles to the center.

WIth the orgonite, the metals are drawing the heat in patterns due to contact with the glass or the water itself making patterned paths where the water freezes at different speed than other parts.

>>14909294
Nope, just metal scraps.

Are you people actually retarded? how many of you has a degree or a nice job?

>>14909298
What if the orgonite were just sitting besides the glass and not making contact with it?

>>14903588
>fringe
>stone affecting materials

>>14909407
Then the freezing pattern would be different in relation to where it's situated so long as it's close enough to still draw the heat from the glass of water. The fact that both the glass of water and the "orgonite" are the only warm objects inside the freezer means that the glass of water will pretty much be the only source of heat to draw from so it would still manage to over a good distance.

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>>14903666
>schizophrenia
>666

you're gonna need much more than a single orgonite bro.
no but seriously, whoever told you it helped with mental disorders is seriously misinformed or retarded.

>>14909361
I'm an adjunct professor of history at a mid-major university.

What did you do today?

>>14909488
I didn't pull out when I had sex with your mum.

>>14909444
nice point, but what would be your explanation in a case such as :

put the water to be frozen next to the freezer's "wall" or side, but without making the container touch said side or wall, just be very close. then, place the orgonite OUTSIDE the freezer, but close to the exterior of that same side. again no contact between either the water container or the orgonite and the freezer's side. and it works like in the pics. what then?

and for an even more conclusive result, you also put another glass or container of water close to the opposite side of the freezer without any orgonite outside said side. and it doesn't get affected and the bubbles end up like in regular frozen water. what would you say to that?

>>14909494
Wow... you fuck old ladies? She shouldn't be blowing her Social Security on that - I have a birthday coming up.

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>>14909494
not even that guy but
>2014
>still making jokes and comebacks with "your mom"

srsly dude?

>>14909444
What about if the orgonite is allowed to cool in the freezer on its own and then add the water after? I know someone that has some orgonite pieces and I'm trying to see if I can borrow a piece to test this for myself. I'm looking in my freezer and thinking I would put the glass of water on one shelf and the orgonite would be sitting on the shelf below but in line with the glass of water. There'd be a lot of frozen food closer to the glass of water than the orgonite. The already cold orgonite would be about a foot below the glass of water.

Also, if I were to just freeze a glass of water on top of some metal shavings or just a big piece of metal I should get the same patterns in the ice?

>>14909488
I'm a med student.
History is a career for people who are unable to pursue real careers because of intellectual limitations, like all the humanities.

>>14909554
dat arrogance

>>14909500
In that case I'd have no explanation. You should try it.

>>14909554
if what he said is true though he has a job and earns his keep while you are still trying to get there. i should remind you that there's no guarantee you'll find a decent med job just because you graduated.

also, jobs aren't always about money, sometimes it's about people trying to do something they like for the sake of not having each day seem like a chore. just so happens that some people like history.

http://proliberty.com/observer/20030310.htm

>>14909515
You can put a glass of water in the freeze with 4 thin long pieces of copper (like thin piping) or something taped along the outside of the glass. You would find that the water freezes in a way that makes a sort of 4 leaf clover pattern if it doesn't just outright make a thin bubble "tube" in the center.

>>14909554
Yeah, see you in three years when you use your undergrad degree to get into an MBA school in a strip mall.

This is some cool shit & making me more and more interested in building someone.
Does anyone have information on constructing pyramidal generators, in particular using certain angle-ratios similar to, say the pyramids of Giza (or similar 'sacred geometry')?

Thanks for the links thus far!

>>14909619
>the idaho observer
... aight.

> Who was Dr. Wilhelm Reich and why has history tried so hard to erase him?
Stopped reading there. If the writer doesn't know the answer to that question, his high school article isn't worth reading.

Reich was shunned and shut down because "orgone" energy is too perverse in nature. It's called "oirgone" because it's based on orgasms and the theoretical energy given off from it. You can't have state funds going towards measure an imaginary energy based on fucking and cumming. It's a total mockery of science.

Also his "orgone accumulator" doesn't even make sense as a contraption. It's a box that is layered with organic, then inorganic, then organic matter again. So basically wood or fiberglass layers with metal. That's a fucking house. Every single house and building would qualify as an orgone accumulator. Let's not even bother asking how this orgasm energy can only go inside the box, but not out despite the materials being layered identically both ways.

Reich was a dude taking advantage of the system, using state monies to fuck bitches and build nonsensical things to keep up appearances.

>>14909680
>introducing a question which is to be answered with the assembled text

but you know, you can stop reading there, if you really want to.

.. You seem to not grasp the nature of this energy, its creative/creator energy, spirit.

Inherent to everything - but, yes, released in large quantities upon orgasm.

>>14909680
shill

>>14909680
It sounds to me like houses do fung shui orgonergy, but they're pretty shitty at it because they're not filled with crystal(s) and a near 50/50 mix of metal and resin.

We make electricity by moving coils of metal through magnetic fields. I find this to be no more or less absurd than the idea of orgone generation.

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>>14909724
This is just you taking what you heard from other spiritual lackwits who, also, are entirely unfamiliar with the writing of the hack who invented this horse shit. I advise YOU, sir hilarious, to learn the truth about this nonsense.

>>14909745
That wouldn't only mean I'm right about everything, now wouldn't it?

>>14909766

the box doesn't create spirit, or, orgone - it makes the stagnant energy in our surroundings move about, it redirects subtle energy.

spirit is everywhere, its the dark matter, the platform on which atoms rest, its the skelly of the universe.

when its stagnant there is death, when it flows freely there is life.

stacking organic and inorganic matter acts to attract redirect and repel.

subtle vortexes of energy.

or something like that.

its kinda cool that its so 'real', rather, dense enough to affect water and to get a clear result, a print of the movements in the area, a frozen glass of water can reveal the flow of an orgone device.

>you're just on repeat

ok then, you seem to know your things, have a good day.

>>14909766
>not a paid shill

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>>14909802
>you're just on repeat
>he said while repeating more magical while still hilariously not understanding what it is he's talking about

>thinks that the effects on the water are from magical OrgOnE™ energy and not the bits of metal

You see why the highborn use you people as livestock to better their own lives? You've got the mental prowess low animals. May as well use your ignorance to their advantage. At least this way you have some use.

This design does not, and can not possibly work. If this +,-,+,-,+,- system can allow passage one direction, it would have to allow passage in the other as well. It doesn't have enough factors to disallow in.

You can go back to being stupid now though, not that you have a choice lol.

>>14909845
>>thinks that the effects on the water are from magical OrgOnE™ energy and not the bits of metal

confirmed for stupid

>>14909845
baaaka

>>14909839
This is nothing new, anon. Since the beginning of time, we of noble birth have had to fight desperately to keep the pox of ignorance that plagues all of plebeian birth in check. It's not just to keep you from hurting yourselves. It's the protect the whole world from the damage that your ignorance causes. It's not a fun duty, nor is it something that anyone gets paid for. We do it to secure the future and keep this rickety system from falling into chaos and anarchy. If anything you should be thankful for our presence, but reality isn't so kind and you will forever blind, ignorant, and lacking even the basic intelligence to keep yourselves out of trouble.

>>14909845

Fucking magnets, how do they work?

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>>14909845

>organic matter (Carbon based epoxy/fabricated tree resin/Amber) attracts 'orgone'
>metal attracts and repels 'orgone'
>layer these and you have a surplus of 'orgone' being accumulated and then dispersed randomly if not focused
>add a quartz crystal to the mix and the resin will encase and exert pressure upon the crystal
>this will trigger the piezoelectric effect, the crystal gets an electromagnetic field
>the orgone piece now has the ability to work as an antennae, picking up stray frequencies and transforming them to heat as the crystal ever so slightly vibrates, giving off the heat/energy/vibration it picks up from the ether

so far i've only managed to figure out these two functions.

if this is wrong somewhere, please point such out.

>>14909895
No one invited you, you know. Leaving now anyway.

>>14909899
>>14909891

can't handle the heat

#btfo

>>14909845
>>you're just on repeat

can't into chan culture, anon is newfig

Everyone go home now, the thread is dead.

>>14909554
Enjoy your student loan debt. It will catch up to you, it will devour you, and when you have been devoured, it will shit you out and you will still be in debt.

>when you realize you're a shitty namefag and delete your posts on own initiative

Thanks for making this board the best it could possibly be!

>>14909944
double dubs spoke, everyone get out unless i get quads

>>14899150
For the rare individual interested in the truth,
http://www.orgonelab.org/orgonenonsense.htm

And, try actually reading Reich's work
https://kickass.to/wilhelm-reich-complete-book-collection-pdf-epub-open-folder-t9168655.html

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>>14909128
I'd be happy to do this if I weren't too student poor/lazy to buy the materials. I'm do experimental research, so a proper design would be easy enough.

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>>14909554
Lol, 5 bux you're an arrogant pre-med who'll switch to business once you get to organic chemistry.

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>>14900729
first I've heard that

source?

My mother bought me a couple of these a few years back, a pendant and one of those pyramid ones. Got me into /x/. Thanks, ma!

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>>14900729
>synchronicity is a sign of high dopamine


Even though the page titles could lead you to that conclusion, it appears both this site:
http://synchronicity.tribe.net/thread/b9fea8b7-766c-4ee7-a2b9-bad66160300b

and this site:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2589#.U8hrK0BiKfs

...mention that not only that excessive dopamine primarily lead to finding patterns and meaning where there are none.
BUT
it also states that people with lower dopamine levels were more likely to *miss* patterns where they *did* exist.

Seems in this scenario rather than dopamine being the cause of the synchronicity and in turn killing all the coolness behind it, that the synchronicities are there and your dopamine levels are an influence as to whether you see them or not.

>>14910297
10/10 post

great conclusion.

would publish.

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>>14910297
would you look at that, a post containing a well-structured on-topic argument backed by sources, on 4chan.

/pol/ might be right this time, it must really be happening.

see you /x/, it was a nice ride, may we meet on the astral plane or wherever we go after death.

>>14899610
What in the actual fuck?

>>14904060
Check out Marc Vogel's work, he claimed similar effects in water by channelling prana through quartz crystals. A lot of people suggest 'orgone' is just prana/chi/ether.

>>14910506
*Marcel Vogel

>>14905749
Yo this shit is bonkers. Best evidence for the entire Reichian kit and kaboodle I've seen yet.

I agree with the poster who suggested better experimental controls. Double blinding, etc. Very interesting.

>>14909251
But what about the cloud pipes? No orgonite in those.

>>14910511
Thanks, yeah.

>>14910520
>ignores the thousands of experiments done
>needs more "evidence"
TIP TOP KEK

So is the the /x/ version of the finger box?

>>14910651
>shill detected

>>14910529
But what about modern science anon? you wouldn't doubt it, would you? you wouldn't doubt scientists, would you?

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so I did the water experiment and the one with the orgonite on top did seems clearer than the one without it (the one on the left)

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>Fingerboxes

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>>14910969
How long did you freeze them for? Also where did you place the pyramid in relation to the glass? I'm going to try this soon also as soon as my friend with the orgonite is available.

>>14911014
I don't know like 6 hours I think, I put the pyramid right on top of the glass

>>14899150
It's pretty. That's about it.

we made some orgonite with muffin tins, nautical resin, some chore boy copper scrubbers chopped up into pieces and rough quartz crystals from the rock shop. we stuck em around the house... well since then our lives have become better, but i kinda blame that on being asatru (and medication) lol.

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>>14909361
I work in a medical research lab (genetics research/blood analysis). and planning to retire into archaeology and anthropology fields..when I get old as the hills.

>>14909554
Good luck finding a career while paying off your student loans..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jG0oq6Zx8o

>>14910726
You know, I'm going to break protocol here and say something...

...I LOVE it when people scream "shill" or "disinfo." It's like you're actually doing my job for me. When you actually point at me and say it, it just gets ignored because "shill" has been beaten to death.

I'll probably get reprimanded for this, but, fuck it.

>>14911490
can't you feel the memes brah?

the rhythm is not in your bones

>>14911490
troll/10

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What will mystical powers will i get from combining these two?

why do orgonite vendors have to put such prices like 500$, that's insane.

My sister is a radio show host and some Orgonite maker offered to give her free unlimited Orgonite if she could advertise his Orgonite business on her show. She didn't lel

>>14909891
>this will trigger the piezoelectric effect, the crystal gets an electromagnetic field
Are you sure piezoelectric properties don't only show up on impacts? It would be kinda dumb if it happened by applying a passive force on them, that would mean we could generate a lot of electricity by putting giant batteries of compressed quartz.

>>14911981
they're overpriced but currently they're art pieces, not practical.

we need to perfect a piece, i read something about replacing the quartz with apache tears

there are also different coils to be used.

http://www.loohan.com/coilinfo.htm

If the effect on freezing water is because of heat extraction, couldn't someone try to repeat the water glass experiment with the orgonite already frozen?

>>14912067
Or use an object of a similar mass and density at the same temperature with the same rate of heat loss as the orgonite piece.

I would if I had some.

>>14909554
Also it sounds like you're parroting a tv show..? (Big Bang?)

>>14912101
>Or use an object of a similar mass and density
Since orgonite isn't homogeneous by nature and most of them are probably of different sizes and densities then this is a moot point. As long as it is close enough it will probably work.

>the same rate of heat loss as the orgonite piece.
A bunch of screws covered with some partially insulating material should do the trick.

>>14912052

>It would be kinda dumb

please explain why you think such a thing.

>> that would mean we could generate a lot of electricity by putting giant batteries of compressed quartz

no thats not how they work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity

tl:dr when quartz comes under stress it generates an electromagnetic field, using this property we can send messages on designated frequency by jolting the compressed quartz with electricity.

reverse effect applies, the EMF picking up outside influence and vibrates, if the instrument is finetuned we can read the signals, if its crude and basic all extracted is a vibrating crystal.

>>14912148
>is a vibrating crystal
heat* friction energy* as it oscillates.

sorry i should be at bed.

>>14912148
According to the Wikipedia article it does generate voltage when compressed, not just an electromagnetic field.

I know it can generate an electromagnetic field if it can generate voltage, but if it can generate voltage it could also fill up a battery in case a single compression was done, but that doesn't work like that so we don't have quartz generators. All existent quartz generators require continuous compression and decompression of the crystal.

Anyway, how do you expect the orgonite to vibrate at a certain frequency without any electrical input?

>>14912131
It is not a moot point since you can make your own you could make pieces similar enough for 5th grade science experiments in your kitchen. Or-- Shit, do I have to write a paper on this?

I have no feels for the side by side comparison with just two samples, you need one glass as the control with no thingie, you should have a thingie made constructed differently but similar to the orgonite (like resin with a metal object within that is the same weight and metal as the shavings in the orgonite) for another glass, and the organite with it's glass of water.

If you were going to be really curious you might also make a plain resin block with no metal which is the same mass as the orgonite with it's own glass and maybe a bag of metal shavings or whatever of the same metal as what's in the orgonite with it's own glass.

Then you need to repeat the same test over and over again to account for variations in environment.

>>14912189
Haah.. Haven't gotten that far and that was new, got anything else to add?

why would one need to set the orgonite to a frequency anyway?

.. unless you wanted it to groan some white noise representing a chakra or something..

think thats doable? reconstruct how?

>>14912222
If we had enough budget we could make a lot of combinations in order to find what causes the weird patterns. However, right now the only "heavy" hypothesis we have involves heat absorption, so running a test with warm orgonite and another one with the same piece but already frozen should be enough to see if it's true, bonus points if repeated a few times.

>>14912249
No, that's your hypothesis.

Mine is actually way better.

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ok lets think, we want it to resonate at, say, 432, would input onto the coil work?

testing indicates that there is no clear change in effectiveness weather or not you run electricity through the lump, orgone productivity is not increased

maybe create one with chambers to resemble the chambers in the great pyramid, i read somewhere that its representative of the human throat.. the paper had something to do with a plasma..

if you gradually increase the voltage on a wire you circle through visible and audible colors & tones, if the wire is hardy enough to withstand manifesting such phenomena.

I have reason to suspect the epoxy would catch fire or melt.

>>14912226
Well yeah, I think frequencies are generated whenever an electrical input is received because piezoelectric materials can also produce mechanical stress when under an electrical field. I am not sure how do they tune it, though.

For reception, I guess very sensible crystals could generate electricity when under said frequencies' stress.

It could maybe be used the other way around (electric to mechanic), but since the digital era it's easier to use electricity to send signals and it's easier to interpret electrical signals than mechanical ones.

Orgonite might actually be some kind of antenna or amplifier. I guess you could input some electricity onto it through the metal chunks and that would make the piece of quartz vibrate. I guess you could tune it to emit certain frequencies, but as I said, I don't know how. Also, it might sound crazy but maybe it uses already existing electrical fields (using the metal chunks as antennas) to make the quartz vibrate, no actual electric input required.

It would be interesting to set it up to exact frequencies. According to Wikipedia, a lot of organic material also exhibits similar properties, like bones or DNA.

>>14912284
What's your definitive and objectively better hypothesis, then?

>>14912301
The patterns in the ice are formed because ambient noise is dispersed through a solid object from one or more angles.

>>14912314
I like the heat dispersion hypothesis better, I think.

>>14912322
You would because engineering and applied electronics is not your specialty. My thesis makes sense though, so you can suck it.

>>14912249
>> the only "heavy" hypothesis we have

thought over matter, orgone generates a bio emf similar to that of living creatures, thing is the orgones vortex or flux is 'set' depending on configuration.

we don't really need to test what patterns different coils create (even though it would be great to have in the backpocket) because we can already confirm that its this field of redirected spirit that tugs at the nearby reality with enough force to create currents in water, visible to the naked eye when frozen.

heat dissipation wouldn't cause all the pic relateds.. but lets not toss the idea away, could be that by freezing the epoxy it.. how would you formulate your idea anyway?

what is hypothetically happening? from what i can figure, there is not much that would differ if the orgonite was warm or cold because the warmth would be gradually extracted from the item without allowing that warmth to set off some sort of reaction to push around currents

i think we should scrap the idea of white noise, who would want that anyway, new goal is to have a piece of orgonite create a perfect pattern in the ether, is that accomplished by adding mandalas? I'm not sure, it feels like this is a vast subject and were just scraping it.

are we trying to dabble with quantum something, electricity, physics?

>does orgonite have a perfect condition usage
>does it operate differently under different temperatures or environments?

>>14912347
Lol k. People have put freezing water over many materials and stuff like >>14899610 isn't common. It's rarer to put water over warm materials than it is to put it over different noise-absorbing ones.

>>14912314
ambient noise, i would describe it as a ferrofluid by the way it acts, with ability to pass through solid object and influence the ferrofluid in those objects, the spirit attached to an atom, and can have that current change ever so slightly, like ancient pottery has the planets then current magnetic north pole programmed in it

>>14912372
> It's rarer to put water over warm materials than it is to put it over different noise-absorbing ones.

Wut?

No it's not. Water is put into room temperature materials all the time (we call them "ice trays") and room temperature (unless you're living in Japan during the winter) is typically above freezing.

However, containers designed to produce clear ice are made from silica molds, which cool just as readily as glass or aluminum molds, but are noise insulating.

>>14912297
quartz with current flowing through it flexes and bends, emitting sounds we cannot hear, applicable for electronics and widely used

quartz in the vicinity of radio waves it responds to and oscillates with that frequency, developing a static charge

quartz under pressure exhibits an electromagnetic field

... right?

Yes, orgonite has two functions, one is attracting and redirecting stale loosh, the other to pick up stray radio waves from your buildings 7 WiFis

how to infuse it with those frequencies?

>>14912382
No. That really is not the way that it works. I don't even know where to start explaining how noise works to you because of what you wrote. You need to shed the metaphysics (??) and look at what we know and can observe before trying to inject them into an analogy just so it doesn't come off as babble.

What kind of faggot invented this?? God dammit x, it's not enough you creare bs ass ghost gf now this??

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>>14912446
let me try to argue for my sake, please, i might be wrong but i think i have a decent grasp of the subject.

1/3

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>>14912455
2/3

>>14912448
Oh, I'm pretty sure we'll get to how these can be used to conjure succubi here very soon.

>>14912455
And I'm not trying to cut you out of the conversation, I just want to make sure we're speaking the same language-- that's all.

>>14912460
>Put orgonite on dick
>Talk to Lilith and tell her how pretty that new hairstyle is
>????
>Profit!

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>>14912459

Pictures are depictions of bio electrical 'auras', vortexes of energy which can be photographed, Kilian photography, to remote view you take part of your aura and send it around, to cast sigils you infuse your energy, aura, into the will, the pattern and then ultimately into the Ether as a thoughtform, i find it unlikely that these are different kinds of energy, its all the same.

Lets assume for a second that all living things have an EMF, if it doesn't, its dead.

Dead planets, no molten core, stale energy, dead, think mars.

What if the pyramids were orgone processors, the stones used were crystalline (however these functioned slightly different)

What you call ambient noise is the fluctuations of the vibrating quartz, what i call ferro fluid (perhaps wrongly so (only because it behaves slightly similar)) is the energetic field, in a lump of orgone the energy pathway is set whereas a human could channel energy out his palm, feet or just general surrounding area, disposing of collected energy.

this energy is everywhere, its just to gather it, factors determine how well you do so.

when the energy is stale there is no evolution, there is no motion and there is no life because this energy is what drives life to blossom, its what drives evolution of particles and flesh. the driving force.

orgonite, being an organic matter, carbon based epoxy, tree sap, plant blood, attracts this energy fiercely whereas metal does (in same force?) and repels it, the spirit succumbs to the parthways of the metal and can be guided into motion, creating an artificial bio emf

now we on terms or do we need to build more bridges?

>>14912511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Uj5cFkuQA

>>14912511

Lilith ? succubus

>>14912513
and thats why we see patterns in water, the energy is forced a set pathway through these prisms, and it has subtle effects on the surrounding area

someone think of this list of effects, i'm spent.

>>14912513
So this energy is like a cross between an AT Field and Getter Rays?

>>14912537
i dunno lol, primal matter, i see it as the canvas on which less rapid energy, devolved energy, particles, attach or latch on to for safety.

I have a throbbing erection.

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>>14912513
>assume

>>14912582
Greed is a fat devil with a tiny mouth & whatever you feed it is never fucking enough.

>>14912513
I think we need to build more bridges.

What I mean by ambient noise: actual sound vibrations that are ubiquitous, they are just there either because of a mechanical function or environment. In this case the noise I think is relevant is due to the cooling system of the freezer.

Think as noise as the waves through a pool, but not the water itself. Leave ferrofluid out of it. So you'll be the sound wave, and a BIG ball pit with balls of different sizes and weights all moving around you at their own rates (the balls represent gasses, liquids and solids), you have a pretty easy time going through the small balls that have more space between them because they are gasses, you do swimmingly though the slightly larger slightly slower balls that represent liquids, and solids larger, densely packed and slow moving, so they are kind of a bitch except. So every time you touch a ball it takes some of your energy and puts it elsewhere-- this game is unfair, because you're sound, you are not going to make it across the ball pit at all.

>>14913636
I hope you can see why I think it's better to drop the jargon at this point. I do want to know how you think things work in your own words, not in science babble terms that have been misappropriated and thrown at you by someone selling these ideas.

I'm way more tolerant than most people in my field of metaphysics and pseudosciences in general but if you could remember that we need to share a simple common vocabulary that would help quite a bit.

>>14913636
you two are talking about the same things with terms that work equally well, how can you not understand each other?

"The Universal Ether, which is postulated by science without its nature being
understood clearly, is held by the Hermetists to be but a higher manifestation
of that which is erroneously called matter–that is to say, Matter at a higher
degree of vibration–and is called by them "The Ethereal Substance." The
Hermetists teach that this Ethereal Substance is of extreme tenuity and
elasticity, and pervades universal space, serving as a medium of transmission
of waves of vibratory energy, such as heat, light, electricity, magnetism, etc.
The Teachings are that The Ethereal Substance is a connecting link between
the forms of vibratory energy known as "Matter" on the one hand, and
"Energy or Force" on the other; and also that it manifests a degree of
vibration, in rate and mode, entirely its own. "

"Scientists have offered the illustration of a rapidly moving wheel, top, or
cylinder, to show the effects of increasing rates of vibration. The illustration
supposes a wheel, top, or revolving cylinder, running at a low rate of speed–
we will call this revolving thing "the object" in following out the illustration.
Let us suppose the object moving slowly. It may be seen readily, but no
sound of its movement reaches the ear. The speed is gradually increased. In a
few moments its movement becomes so rapid that a deep growl or low note
may be heard. Then as the rate is increased the note rises one in the musical
scale. Then, the motion being still further increased, the next highest note is
distinguished. Then, one after another, all the notes of the musical scale
appear, rising higher and higher as the motion is increased. Finally when the
motions have reached a certain rate the final note perceptible to human ears

is reached and the shrill, piercing shriek dies away, and silence follows. No
sound is heard from the revolving object, the rate of motion being so high
that the human ear cannot register the vibrations. Then comes the perception
of rising degrees of Heat. Then after quite a time the eye catches a glimpse of
the object becoming a dull dark reddish color. As the rate increases, the red
becomes brighter. Then as the speed is increased, the red melts into an
orange. Then the orange melts into a yellow. Then follow, successively, the
shades of green, blue, indigo, and finally violet, as the rate of sped increases.
Then the violet shades away, and all color disappears, the human eye not
being able to register them. But there are invisible rays emanating from the
revolving object, the rays that are used in photographing, and other subtle
rays of light. Then begin to manifest the peculiar rays known as the "X
Rays," etc., as the constitution of the object changes. Electricity and
Magnetism are emitted when the appropriate rate of vibration is attained."

"When the object reaches a certain rate of vibration its molecules disintegrate,
and resolve themselves into the original elements or atoms. Then the atoms,
following the Principle of Vibration, are separated into the countless
corpuscles of which they are composed. And finally, even the corpuscles
disappear and the object may be said to Be composed of The Ethereal
Substance. Science does not dare to follow the illustration further, but the
Hermetists teach that if the vibrations be continually increased the object
would mount up the successive states of manifestation and would in turn
manifest the various mental stages, and then on Spiritward, until it would
finally re-enter THE ALL, which is Absolute Spirit. The "object," however,
would have ceased to be an "object" long before the stage of Ethereal
Substance was reached, but otherwise the illustration is correct inasmuch as
it shows the effect of constantly increased rates and modes of vibration. It
must be remembered, in the above illustration, that at the stages at which the
"object" throws off vibrations of light, heat, etc., it is not actually "resolved"
into those forms of energy (which are much higher in the scale), but simply
that it reaches a degree of vibration in which those forms of energy are
liberated, in a degree, from the confining influences of its molecules, atoms
and corpuscles, as the case may be. These forms of energy, although much
higher in the scale than matter, are imprisoned and confined in the material
combinations, by reason of the energies manifesting through, and using
material forms, but thus becoming entangled and confined in their creations
of material forms, which, to an extent, is true of all creations, the creating
force becoming involved in its creation.

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>>14913636
>>14913746

What you call sound or noise i refer to as vibrations of a high frequency, they are created when certain crystalline semi biological structures are put under stress or interfered with.

What you think of as 'noise' going through the various atoms and particles of our perceivable universe is vibration, sound is vibration, everything is vibration - however, its not so crude as to make a humming white noise, redirected through a crystal it manifests 'higher' vibrations, resulting in a sphere of influence, a semi intelligent field, an aura that can interfere with and intercept other frequencies in the ether, and if you ping the crystal with electricity you can send radio waves out into the ether, for someone with a similar device to pick up and read (see Radio and most mobile devices)

>actual sound vibrations that are ubiquitous

Crystals under no influence experiences no seemingly magical effects, therefore the noise is not a constant unless force is exerted upon the object.

However, spirit which is an entirely different force, one yet 'undiscovered' by the establishment is ubiquitous, its ever present and courses through everything, its of the dimension (driving force, creativity, evolution) 3 6 & 9 on which 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8 rests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI93jeaXGvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhBymLCRIU8

In orgonite nothing is being produced, just redirected. Spirit being redirected is what causes the patterns in freezing water.

>> So you'll be the sound wave
Yes, it acts like a wave but it is not, its bioelectricity that is attached to a source, a living being, when consciousness is focused the 'aura' or 'sphere of etheric energy' moves about, its the sensation of needles in your neck when you know you're being watched walking through the forest, depending on the hunters intent you feel it less/more. This field can stretch and move about, with practice

what is it you don't 'get', where am i wrong?

>>14914828
>>14913746
>not in science babble terms that have been misappropriated and thrown at you

few things i speak of is not from reflecting upon it, thats partly why i've got such a hard time trying to communicate.

-

Research done in Russia on the subject of Auras (which have been militarily incorporated by both the US and USSR) indicate that feelings or packages of emotion/thought travels many times faster than the speed of light, and have plenty of notes regarding its properties, which, can be more likened to a etheric ferrofluid, being able to grasp (potential telepathy if aura has enough power to physically move items and not just influence other sources of etheric energy (same thing reserve, etheric vibrations can disturb, weaken and ravage the human aura, causing stress, sleeplessness, sickness, immune system disfunction, depression..)) Being of "non material" etheric vibrations, with a set point of origin (the living body) it is able to pass through what we perceive as 'solid' objects, it takes routes through the cores of the atoms and pierces with no loss in velocity.

Thus, when spirit is directed through orgonite it creates vortexes of energy, movement of 'life force' that all other things align with, such as water freezing in patterns according to these movements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjpCKZ7cEoY

>>14914879
>telepathy
telekinesis*

telepathy is when intent and emotion is sent from one sphere to another, receiver must be in tune and sender must be in control

>>you have a pretty easy time going through the small balls that have more space between them because they are gasses, you do swimmingly though the slightly larger slightly slower balls that represent liquids, and solids larger, densely packed and slow moving, so they are kind of a bitch except. So every time you touch a ball it takes some of your energy and puts it elsewhere-- this game is unfair, because you're sound, you are not going to make it across the ball pit at all.

yes thats how it work, thats why the human EMF only has a range of some 4 meters, however, spirit can be sent with no loss in transmission, its of the highest vibration, it pierces everything effortlessly.

Archive pls.

>>14914548
No. No we are not. Nope.

With what I do, what I work with on the daily I use proper conventional devices to measure things that can be properly measured (electrical resistance, volume, density of liquids, weight, mass, conductivity, temperature, reflectivity, chatoyance, humidity etc.) Hell, I have a self monitoring device for no other reason than I thought it would look cool and it was fun to restore.

Someone starts talking about ambient noise as if it's something it's not (like a magnetic liquid) it's going to throw everything into chaos and the conversation is going to end. I don't discuss things with crazy people because they change the rules of the discussion by just putting in technical sounding verbal vomit, it still doesn't mean anything-- he might as well be quoting a star trek technical manual.

>>14915207
Yes, you are.

>>14915207
:(

then please try to put the information gathered into sciency terms?

this is by no means an easy subject.

>>14914926
>yes thats how it work, thats why the human EMF only has a range of some 4 meters

Why is it that it's really disturbing to me that you are agreeing with me?

Humans do have a *very* slight electrical field, but NOT a 4 meter EMF. 10-100 millivolts hardly registers, it does not create a significant field.

>>14915247
The human EMF is unexplainable stronger than its supposed to be.

Its actually true.

>>14915246
That's the problem, I can't interpret (and believe me I have been trying to) what you are talking about into real actual terms that would make sense to anyone. That's why I asked you to use your own words.

>>14915254
No it's not and saying it is will not change that. We're not eels or batteries or generators-- that's fantasy.

>>14915254
>trust me brah

http://drpawluk.com/updates/electromagnetic-fields-and-the-heart/

>reliable sources
>shooting the messenger
>4chan

commence.

>>14915258
Lets start from scratch then.

Lay out your hypothesis.

>>14915262
http://www.safespaceprotection.com/overview-electromagnetic-fields.aspx

>>14915262
Here-- I can demonstrate this to you. Go to a thrift shop or antique store, find an old tube radio (the power source, speaker and the tubes need to be good, I don't care if the capacitors or coil are gone for this.) Ask the shop owner to plug it in for you and pass your hand by the back close to the tube (don't touch it)-- no interference, take a smaller radio (transistor is fine), turn the volume all the way down and keep it on and pass that at an equal distances from the tube-- you will hear interference. You will observe that a simple battery operated radio kicks out a MUCH more powerful electrical field than your body.

>>14915262
http://www.heartmath.org/free-services/articles-of-the-heart/energetic-heart-is-unfolding.html

>>14915293
But those devices are not biological.

Bio electricity =! "Ye Olde tube Radio"

Bottle.

>>14915316
Are you being intentionally retarded?

>>14915323
Does this bother you.

>>14915327
What do you think?

>>14909510
>2014
>still coming back on your mom

srsly, like youre mom likes

>>14915335
I think you're slightly bothered.

Tell me again, why do you think that a bio electrical field of resonance equates a radio?

>>14915345
I FUCKING DON'T think a bio electrical field of resonance equates a radio. Reread my post, if you already did then re-re-read them.

>gave you an experiment so you could see that human bodies do not have a strong electrical field, something which you could do easily and cheaply so you could see for yourself what I'm saying instead of just taking me at my word

>>14915293
... If anything i dare wager that this experiment provides empirical evidence for the hypothesis that human beings are able to interact with 'Radios' on the grounds that just as the MusicBoxTM has a field of resonance, humans are in possession of one as well, and that when these collide the result is degradation/destruction/corruption of wavelength, in theory if 'smart' frequencies are being broadcasted by the box they could be picked up by a device built to 'hear' as in, vibrate in unison with in order to decrypt information, this goes of course with the extra feat of being able to change, manipulate the frequency and then being able to properly recreate such a wavelength that was picked up - Alas, manipulated.

Is that how Radio works? Because that's telepathy - however, telepathy can't be hacked, the transfer of emotional energy is instantaneous.

Beings can however still read your mind, or the thoughts/impulses you broadcast.

How do i speak your language, give me a list of books, maybe some terms you want me to stick with?

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>>14915433

>>14915433
dubs r truths

>not greentexting each other if there are communication difficulties

YO WHAT IF I TAKE DIS AND PUT IT ON MY DICK

>>14915522
were getting to there eventually anon, take it easy.

>>14915433
>hypothetically

mite b dun

>>14915433
>How do i speak your language, give me a list of books, maybe some terms you want me to stick with?

First, you're going to have to catch up, you are so wrong about how radios work. I want to get a bus ticket, find your science teachers one by one and punch each of them in the dick for the disservice they've done your education. Repeatedly. Then I want to have some words with your mother for not buying you a crystal radio kit or having appropriate role models in your life. No joke.

2nd, you should do yourself a favor and lay out a little money on an electrical project kit. The 500-in-1 Electronic Project Lab is the bomb, my daughter has been putting hers to good use since she was 4. I liked playing with her set so much I bought one for myself. You can get cheaper ones, but I think since you are an /x/phile you will really enjoy some of the projects (you can make your own Gauss meter, you can use it to make a rudimentary lie detector, you can test the conductivity of your house plants with it, etc) the project book is really very good. Then you should go to your library and pick up almost any book on understanding basic electronics and components (I'm not giving you titles because when I was born micro-chips were not a thing, tuners in radios were still mostly copper coils, so the best titles change as technology evolves.) In the meantime you should stay the fuck away from pretend science and electronics until you get to a point where you want to find out what kind of /x/philes Faraday, Edison, Telsa and Marconi actually were (because that's actually VERY fun to research and easy to duplicate some of their early psychical devices and they would so fit in here.)

>>14899774
>even though the twisted quack that invented this shit is dead
Wilhelm Reich died in prison after the FDA made his destroy his research and inventions, he claimed he could communicate with UFOs and that CIA jack booted thugs were after him

seems legit, all the right people didn't like him he must have been on to something, Einstein was terrified of him

>>14915293
>observe that a simple battery operated radio kicks out a MUCH more powerful electrical field than your body.
depends on the body, high performing athletes have more current in their body

>>14915592
Previous post, I pointed out that the human body produces 10 to 100 millivolts. Got that shit covered.

You're making me sad. Not because you're stupid, because I don't believe you are. But you need to learn the real stuff and stop memorizing fake science.

>>14915616
>But you need to learn the real stuff and stop memorizing fake science.
what the fuck you cunt, I say one thing and you're freaking out,

I have an accumulator sitting here built by Reich himself, copies of all his books including the ones he never published about giant plasma aliens in the upper atmosphere and how the universe isn't what you think it is, one of my relatives was supporting his work from way back and they're an interesting group of people to say the least,
William Burroughs, William Steig, Sean Connery, JD Salinger, Norman Mailer,

seriously you guys should go read his books, he asked that they remain unpublished until 50 years after his death so have only been available for a couple years now,

>>14915653
also getting a raging boner and sitting in a faraday cage seems pretty similar to a lot of magic stuff I've seen

just saying

>>14915653
You asked for suggestions, I made them and you call me a cunt. Good form.

So when you realize you've been studying something with all the relevancy to real life that Magic the Gathering or Dungeons & Dragons has for YEARS I want you to think back on this thread and remember that I gave you advice that would have probably saved you from a sad life of neck bearded fedora wearing basement habitation.

>>14915673
so Burroughs accumulator had nothing to do with his longevity despite the fact he was a terrible junk addict? and then theres the thing about how the grass over his graves grows faster

and Einstein was afraid to touch it when he repeated the results himself?

>>14915537
however, improbable. i don't think greys or pleiaidians have enough mental prowess to move about objects.

But maybe it could be a possibility if our auras were strong enough.
Because we have no scientific term for it as science doesn't really 'wants to go there' - the best description of this sphere surrounding you, its center being your heart would be an elastic soap bubble that stretches and encases whatever your attention glides.

It varies in strength, meditation makes it more dense, charged - with enough mechanical assistance this 'force' flowing through your body could move stuff. That however is not its purpose. Even though we can witness the imprint of the energy currents does not mean we should perfect these devices so that we can toy with water. If you were always supercharged with chi, what effects?

>>14915554
>not being a neet orphan studying only the things you want

never had to build a radio before, that was just a first thought, i got most of this shitposting from Tesla so i don't know what you're on about really.

Why don't you tell us more about his research regarding free energy and the ether?

also, please don't forget where you are >>14906505 , if we can convince ourselves its possible, its possible. convincing is hard work and i appreciate you being here to ruin stuff, makes it more of a challenge.

>>14915616
But that's the thing, you're right. Humans don't have more current in them, yet, the EMF of a human is larger and stronger than it should be, if you check up on the latest research on cells and how they have their own tiny EMF you will stumble upon the hypothesis that its because every cell in the human body has their own little biological electromagnetic field which sends information to the cell next to it, and that they work together to amplify - creating a much larger and stronger EMF than should be.

Which i up until now have found plausible, but i have high hopes you'll tell me why that's wrong and what is right.

>>14915616
>i couldn't possibly be wrong, coul i?

>>14915684
Burroughs lived to 83

My grandmother was still taking her bicycle into town when she was 98 to buy her cigarettes every day, do you want me to believe that she lived ever so much longer because daily sugar cookies and bourbon have life extending properties? btw, she didn't own any orgonite or an orgone generator.

>>14915698
>encases
And infuse, the soap bubble fluid inhabits the /space/ which is in your focus

>>14915741
yeah thats good, it should just pass through relatively unhindered.

>>14915698
http://www.youtube.com/user/readingrainbow

>>14915768
hue no i've made fine living utilizing all the crazy on /x/.

>>14915698
>never had to build a radio before
No one really has to build a radio anymore but unlike orgone collectors they actually work. You're a hostile little fake that wants to pretend to be smart instead of actually being smart and lash out calling by calling people cunts. No one can respect that kind willfully ignorant shit.

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>>14915787
>calling people cunts
where? i try to be civil while name namefagging

if you want to catch a butterfly you don't build a fishing rod, thus you've never had the opportunity to learn.

i just don't see where i'm wrong about raduis thu bruh, one machine sends a beep to another machine with a receiver

>electricity funneled through quartz to produce frequencies in the 'nothing'* that can be picked up if a receiver is tuned to the same frequencies in order to decode the song or text

>*science, it just works!

>>14915817
NOW YOU'RE SPEAKING SCIENCE!

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>>14915819
>while at it why don't you sign some insurances guaranteeing the most advanced cancer treatment, now with proper isotopes from Fukushima!

>>14915817


>>14915653

>>14915830
poorly executed because it can be interpreted as an insult while its mockery

>>14915852
http://i.gyazo.com/18286bc28279bf3e5469074ce4f704f8.png

>>14915817
>i just don't see where i'm wrong about raduis thu bruh, one machine sends a beep to another machine with a receiver

Layering conductive material with non-conductive material makes this thing (that is not an orgone collector) called a capacitor.

Why are you buying into this scam?

>>14915868
>implying contradicting evidence

>>14915864
I was mistaken, sorry for the misunderstanding.

>>14915873
Yup. Because capacitors even rudimentary ones made from steelwool and leaves, are still capacitors-- we know how they work and how they work.

>>14915868
Look like this anon has figured out that Orgonite is a capacitor.

Congratulations on the discovery!

Now how does this change anything?

>>14915881
in that case we might have some ideas on how to possibly improve computing with orgonite, great job anon!

>>14915882
It doesn't change anything because the ones pictured in this thread are not even really good capacitors-- I don't think they have any use at all except as paper weights

Basically, you're creating a giant chaff item, and putting a crystal in it? Why not just out tons of metal in it to disrupt/reflect/negate/absorb ambient forms of EMW?

>>14915889
No. Stahp. Staaaahhhp.

>>14915891
Oh, you're another one of those that can't grasp the concept so you say it doesn't exist?

>reading illustrated science on the toilet

>>14915896
Eat much lead paint as a kid?

>>14915891
I think we should fund some testing to see weather or not that is true.

If what you say is correct one should layer his bed with steel wool instead of getting his fingers sticky with resin.

You're quite the inventor anon.

>>14915903
I'm going to credit Willhelm Reich with this one because it seems he invented capacitors after they'd already been invented. That takes fucking skillz man.

>>14915914
Touché.

Still, seems capacitors do more more than intended, they seem to redirect ether energy which might not seem like a big deal but has profound consequences.

>>14915924
Yes, now we need to understand how they can be used to summon succubi because sending signals through the atmosphere is not magical enough for you fuckers that don't understand what a mother fucking miracle things like your goddamned microwaves and cellphones are

>>14915951
Hahaha~!
Im a girl btw

>>14915956
I'm equal rights.

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>>14915868
There was never an argument for orgonite being a radio, the consensus is that orgonite acts as an antennae, the crystals under pressure of the amber producing an EMF that picks up frequencies from his telephone, that microwave and the wifi, making the crystal vibrate and dissipate such signals as heat energy, rendering radio pollution harmless heat. I bet with enough orgone you could keep an inner city apartment warm during the winter.

Second, layering organic/inorganic material creates a ubiquitous movement of 'something', whatever causes the water patterns, the hypothesis is that, because the metal is more apt at directing & repelling than collecting 'something', and amber apt at collecting this 'something' like iron filings to a magnet.

When the greeks dubbed amber energy is was not because of electricity.

Its like ya'll slow or something

>>14915705
yeah so now smokes, drink and sweets have the same effect on your body as slamming junk all the time? do you even know how easily those people typically get deadly infections?

all this is besides the point, Reich has credibility because the government came in and destroyed his work,

if it was so bad why not just put him out of business, why destroy all his notes and keep copies of them if the shit was so piss poor science that was worth nothing? why keep copies then?

I can't remember tipp shilling this hard since he tried to make us believe in aliens.

also isn't a guy whose work was destroyed by the government and was afraid UFO's were coming to get him the definition of /x?

>>14916048
this is a slow moving board but its happening anon

>>14916057
cool, but serious, maybe I'll scan this book, freaking hilarious, guy is going on about UFOs and men in black, anybody ever read Reich's book about UFOs and Men in Black?

>>14915902
>Eat
Ate.

>>14916041
> Reich has credibility because the government came in and destroyed his work

I wish I had an award to give you for non sequitur of the year

>>14916070
well its quite obvious someone wanted something gone.. seeing as how he devoted his life to this research..

and then theres the murder..

and the literal tonnes of burnt scientific data..

and then theres these pictures of water, and this >>14916029

>>14916029
Capacitors are not radios. If you actually scienced you would know this.

>>14916070
hey man, nobody trusts the government especially when it comes to technology, they come in and make some guy who Einstein can't touch burn all his work and it makes you wonder what he's on to, it doesn't make you think? I mean do you trust government or something?

I'll tell you something my man Graham Chapman told me, never trust a woman or a government

>>14916077
>and the literal tonnes of burnt scientific data..
and they kept some and the guy built a machine that manipulated weather patterns to create rain which was successfully used then and very recently, you know the Israeli government hired James DeMeo to create rain, so Israel says it's good shit worth spending money on but this other guy here says it's all bullshit,

I'm putting my money with Israel on this one but thats just because of personal experience

>>14916088
>Capacitors are not radios

No shit, the only one claiming that would be you, twice now.

>>14916107
>betting against the jews
>ever

>>14916093
>hey man
me = femanon

Or it makes me think that maybe someone in government overreacted to a quack which was absolutely not out of the ordinary at the time.

>>14916109
No I have not.

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>>14916113
>quack

100 years ahead of your time and you get 'that' treatment

>>14916117
>>Capacitors are not radios
>insinuating implication

>>14916113
>Or it makes me think that maybe someone in government overreacted to a quack which was absolutely not out of the ordinary at the time.
yeah but the FDA wasn't really that type of organization, really to begin with the FDA was created to put the slap down on uppity jews Helena Rubenstein specifically, they also had to slap down Estee Lauder but they went way easier on her, so this agency really was always kind of an underfunded joke, and since when did government give a shit about anything but press? they went out of their way to fuck with Reich, maybe a couple christian weirdos complained about him getting naked with a hard on in his faraday cage but Rubenstein and Lauder were ripping off masses of people before they made the FDA and took action, and then the thing about them keeping some of the work, and the fact that it was related to weather manipulation

ya dig lady? government is 100% shady whatever the fuck they're doing, they're saving kittens for PR and it's shady doings because it's government, so you have them busting in on some scientist well regarded by his peers with a handful of wealthy and influential clients and destroying his work and his inventions except the ones they want to keep?

read his books before you talk about it, the guy was brilliant, Function of the Orgasm and Mass Psychology of Fascism are certainly worth reading, a lot more than that jackass Freud and his toad nephew Bernays

who used psychology to coerce women into smoking and buying dumb shit made by Betty Crocker, the guy's whole trip was subjugating women 1950s style

but everyone jumps to Freud and Bernays because their stuff is good marketing and Reich is ignored because it helps people and you can't make money with it

>>14916148
Oh. I'm sorry. You seem to have dropped your very fashionable aluminum hat.

>>14916169
we all get those at skunk works, it's not fashionable though because we never see anybody, too busy working

but go on, you were saying how trustworthy your government is or something? you should bring her round would like to meet a trustworthy government someday

>>14916185
there is none, but last i heard /pol/ stumbled upon direct democracy, they're not sure what to do so far because its implementable and gives all the power to the people.

sad thing is, they want fascism and doesn't trust the majority of people.

>>14916185
Keep going-- you've not hit on the illuminati, MK Ultra, the School of America, blood libel or the templars. I know you will.

>>14916200
so a computer interface government? sure why not let's make the botnet lords in charge for a while,

interactive government by the mob, unlimited votes per ip address, any one may introduce legislation,

if everyone signs on haven't we officially turned our back on existing government by joining another jurisdiction? and wouldn't that negate any claim to authority the current administrations may have or claim to have?

any living thing may participate,

>>14916206
I heard about all that stuff, most important thing there is to recognize that everything you hear is both true and not true at the same time,

it can weigh in either direction and where it lands most strongly aids in shaping reality, but yeah never been to school of america heard about it in media so probably it's bullshit or it's true but it was named something else a bunch of different times but always had the same focus. MK ultra is well cultural some people are just assholes to each other we always knew that people like that will always exist they serve an important function, illuminati well appears in media a lot so mostly bullshit hints of truth entirely presented as theatre like everything else you see on the news, blood libel never heard of is that consuming human blood for narcotic effect? tell me more, templers heard of them never met any although I hear some were into alchemy, witchcraft, maybe UFOs and bigfoot also so /x material right?

>>14916221
I like you, i will talk of this subject with you.

this is the text that was floating around, it was attached to a kickstarter project that was taken down for some reason

"Wouldn't it be awesome if you on your device could access a platform with issues of state, to discuss with your fellow citizen, matters that lie close to heart, and together find the best solution through discussion & voting - Wouldn't it be even better if whatever voted forth by the community would be carried out by a representative?

Hello my name is Philip AR, I want to create an open source platform, a politicians tool that will help better represent the people.

When its finished it is my intent to start a political party dedicated to nothing.
I will hold no personal opinion whatsoever and strive only to voice whatever thought is brought forth through the platform on behalf of its community, the voters.
Remember, its an open source project meaning that it will be handed out freely to anyone who wishes better represent the people voting for them.

The finished concept will have many features, but at its core, it will be an Anonymous forum, where you can discuss and vote polls on each individual issue concerning your nation, ranging from infrastructure and education to foreign affairs and asteroid mining!

This idea is not great because it eliminates our current 2% tax cut politics, not because its a dozen strides on way of removing corruption, not even because it gives people back the power of their vote - Its great because its so easily implementable."

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>>14916267
"All one has to do is to announce that he or she holds no personal agenda and will enact policies according to the will of the platform.

My vision is one of true democracy at the peoples own initiative.

-

A century ago if someone told you that he wanted to build a house in which all the people of the nation could sit and talk of how to run the country, the first thing on your mind would be "No auditorium that colossal could ever be built." The second thing to come to ones mind might be "Leave politics to the educated."

The day is the 12th of July 2014 and Internet has drastically changed the world, with passion and infinite knowledge at hand everyone is a genius. Thoughts and ideas travel at the speed of light yet our response as a planet is slow, man travels space and tampers with DNA yet our politics is stagnant, bloated and outdated.

Direct Democracy will be a reality, do you want it now or in two decades?"

Pic related is how /pol/ responded, nothings kicked off yet though.

>>14916221
there are precautions to take, 1 vote per IP..

this supposed system would be attached to a person or a representative, or even a group of them to properly run the servers and read vote stats and then introduce that to bureaucracy.

>>14916250
>blood libel never heard of

And you call yourself a conspiracy theorist? I'm ashamed of you

>>14916277
>Pic related is how /pol/ responded, nothings kicked off yet though.

prius?

>>14916283
the servers should be in space, maybe on the Moon

>>14916289
>And you call yourself a conspiracy theorist?
no I never called myself that, I consider myself an agnostic, but I consider that anything is possible and am rarely interested in pursuing truth or evidence, I would rather just consider both options and proceed to analysis from either perspective and then both

>>14916324
>am rarely interested in pursuing truth or evidence

obvious

So what are the physical properties like? Does solidified resin break easily?

Pretty cool decorations if nothing else.

>>14916312
prius & the israeli happenings completely overshadowed it, there was also immense slide

>>14916376
2 - 2,5

but its not fragile by any means.

>>14916351
in search of all possible outcomes you find the one that is true

>>14908584
you forgot the glitter

>>14909671
>building someone
good luck with your android research

>>14916029
>its_not_quantum_physics

kek

>>14916200
Mob rule is anything but intelligent.
>>14916283
Introducing a voting system using IP addresses fails to link one vote to one person.
In the case of large botnets, tens of thousands of votes could be linked to a single person.

>>14917302
what if they voted anonymously?

>>14917302
>4chan with a legal representative

>>14903588
/sci/ here, we are actually monitoring this thread for the lulz.

you guys are fucking beyond the pale of human stupidity. good luck in life.

>>14909298
>the metal inside the blob of resin are drawing the heat away from the water as it freezes

thermodynamics here, that is the exact opposite of what is happening.

>>14917563
We have been rused, their goal was to spread their heretic science, if even one of us might start to question things - They win!

There is literally nothing wrong with being a skelleton.

/sci/ here. I understand if you want to believe in secret organizations, slender man or santa claus, but this thread is just pure stupidity.

>>14899784
>accounts for such things as the color of the sky, gravity, galaxies, the failure of most political revolutions, and a good orgasm.
Are you fucking serious?

Please someone tell me you're just trolling and don't actually believe in this.

>no kate bush itt
the song cloudbusting is the sole worthwhile thing to come from this shit

>>14914688
Kybalion?
I think you might have something here.

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>>14917906
maybe. also. compressing and decompressing quartz is what produces piezoelectricity. Just leaving it compressed generates nothing.