FIGHTING

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>starting a thread with one webm
not impressed by your performance

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>>1820177
I will heem you into another realm, kid.

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>>1820187
you wouldn't be saying that in my guard kiddo, watch what you say.

>>1820187
>>1820196
Both yall need to drink yo milk and go to bed

post some mike tyson k.o.
ufc is kinda bored

>>1821480
What happened here?

>>1820169
>degrade board
>post on said board
>expecting people to participate

that makes you the cancer kiddo

>>1821485
Bisping was pointing at his mouthguard which had gotten knocked out ten seconds before. As Silva understands they are still in a fight he proceeds to knee him into oblivion

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Tony Twist, the archetypal 90's roidfreak cokehead fighter.

>>1821480
protect yourself at all times

>>1821479
Dude what.

First time I see a beta referee, and it just happens to be a female..

>>1820189
Is that fucking Ben Shapiro?

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>>1821477
Female ref wtf

>>1820189
wow, doug stamper used to be ripped.

>>1820189
Barn-Cat during his run

>>1821477
Wamen have no business in dere wtf

>>1822724
pewdiepie looking for more "original" content?

>>1820177
Kickboxing was genuinelly more exiting than MMA. I wonder why it never took off in murrika.

>>1822619
didnt ask for ylyl

>>1821405
That was one of the most impressive toolings I've ever seen. Cruz is no slouch and Cody made him look like an amateur.

>>1821481
Fuck Edmond. I hope next time that guy says some dumb shit to a fighter, his team doesn't get in the way.

>>1820177
How fucked did he get from the knees?

>>1823970
bout tree fiddy

>>1821480
As a viewer, Herb Deen is the best referee, as a fighter, he's the worst.

>>1821477
wtf is she doing in the octagon

>>1821247
4chan.webm

>>1822619
didn't ask for a feels thread

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Stu Grimson, the grim reaper

>>1822535
no it was henry rollins

>>1822622
haha, thought the same

>>1821477
Thats a funny looking kitchen

>>1820169
>board is cancer
>posts a bunch of naked guys playing manhug rollkick
kek

>>1822839
It did, back in the fucking 70's.

>>1820177
alistair over/heem/

>>1821480
Bisping's mouth guard flew off so he tried to tell Herb as Herb was saying to keep fighting when Silva threw the flying knee. Bisping still won

>>1825916
Ok, wtf was that move. I need a name so I can watch more of these.

>>1826161
tornado kick

>>1825920
Pernell GOAT

>>1826165
Ah, thought so, but I didn't know it was used outside of taekwondo. Thanks.

>>1825922
Did my boy just arm bar hold that bitch?

>>1825317

Damn what a KO. That Simpson guy really fucked up hard. Props to Grimson for throwing his hands up and skating away when he realized that Simpson was down and not getting back up.

>>1821247
tfw to intelligent

urgent bump!

>>1821477
it had to be a fucking woman

>>1826165
Is there a difference between that and a 540 kick?

>>1825916
M I S T E D
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S
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>>1825920
sauce on song please?

>>1823538
It was bizarre to behold. Cruz is freakish good, like the ultimate try-hard. I think that mentality is what Cody used to his advantage.

>>1825515
underrated

>>1826202

>hold

No pretty sure he fucking broke it. Looks hyper extended to me.

Does anyone have the one where that retard tried to breakdance and his opponent knocked him out?

>>1821477
absolutely savage

>>1831833
>>1825515
meant for you

>>1820177
Why do they wear gloves if you're just knowing to smash your knee into your opponents face? Kick boxing and MMA are such degenerate sports.

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>>1831893
Gloves are there to protect your hands not your face and head silly. Fighters would break their hands all the time if they were bare knuckled and would have to throw more cautiously.

>>1821405
>00:04
SHOW ME YUR MOVES

>>1821480
>when you whiff a light tiger knee and ryu taunts so you punish with a heavy tiger knee

>>1825922
Firstly, I don't think that kid was being bullied.
Secondly they teach you in almost all martial arts schools, don't resort to violence.
That kid is a little bully dick.

>>1826202
that arm is broken mate.

>>1832959
spotted the feminist.

>>1832959
>>1833114
>>1833333

To be fair, the kids on brown pants was the first to made physical contact. Yeah, it was a little push with one hand, barely worth of note, yet, he initiated the entire thing.

However, I doubt the response was in accordance to the threat. That's like the first thing you learn in law classes when talking about self-defence, the force employed should be equal to the threat. Otherwise, people would get away with murder by claiming self-defence because the other guy said mean things.

And coming back to this fight: the kid on red shirt got pushed. In return, he literally kicked the other kid on the chest, applied a scissor leg takedown (which is forbidden in nearly all MMA tournaments, iirc), hit him multiple times on the head, including the nape (which is also forbidden), and finished potentially breaking his arm and sustaining the hold after the other kid gave up. Or at least look like he wasn't trying to keep the fight.

I think the mma kid went over the top. I know 4chan likes to relate everything with some bogeyman, so I know nobody will agree with my conclusion that both kids deserve to be disciplined. One for picking up fights, and the other for not knowing when to stop.

Also, the whole "bully took on a smaller kid" is laughable. Both were the same size and build. Given the lack of training, in fact, the supposed bully was in disadvantage. But, hey, what could you expect from a facebook page called "thebjj".

>Hur, hur, that kid won the fight, clearly bjj in action, guy! Hey, gravity is also a bjj technique!

>>1833201
>>the force employed should be equal to the threat.
>Okay Mr. Attacker, I will only hit you once you have hit me and I will employ only low to moderate force so as to prevent any physical harm! Please, you may throw your first punch.

One particular case flew over my head. A woman was tied up and being raped in her own home, she managed to snatch a kitchen knife at one point and slammed it into the attacker's thigh, after that she fled and called the cops. She got a conviction for aggravated assault.

Fuck I hate the "durp durp you must use force equal to threat" shit. Who decides what's appropiate to the situation and what isn't? What if the true victim is panicked and confused? Who the fuck is the judge to say when slamming a knife into a thigh is proper use of force and when it isn't? The judge must have known only decisive use of force or immobilization would prevent the attacker from following the woman.

>>1820169
It really is. Wtf happened? Music threads have turned into weird vaporwave/ synthwave only YGYL threads, dance threads have no dancing, no vidya threads but 2 or 3 vidya music threads, etc etc. Plus the board seems to have massively slowed down too. Wtf is going on?

>>1825317
Wow so they treat fighting like its just a part of the sport?

>>1825920
Fucking Spiderman.

>>1833465

It has been a part of the sport since its beginning. The players are each assessed a 5 minute menalty and can return to the game afterwards. In the case in the webm, there was less than 5 minutes left in teh game so both players just got kicked out.

Unfortunately fighting in hockey is becoming more and more regulated, and there have been many rules and measures put in to effect in the past 20 years that have slowly eaten away at fighting as an institution in the sport. These days there are far less fights (each team averaged about 80 fights per year in 1997, in 2017 the average was 12), and the fights that do happen are very safe and sterile compared to the fights of yesteryear.

Back then some teams really disliked each other, and players would hold grudges for years. There's no hate in the sport these days. The pure, tribalistic hatred between teams that used to be present and made the sport so entertaining has been all but eliminated.

>>1821477
dude was fucking POURING. can't complain too much desu.. if the ref thinks it is potentially bad enough then by all means take the time out, bad position but at least she didnt stop a submission that was locked in etc. weird situation

that blood fountain is sick though

>>1831167
Cruz said it best.

He was the top guy up n coming fighters dreamt of beating, and Cody admitted the same.

He literally beat everybody, including pretty much all of Alpha-Male, except their boy Cody.

When you have a target on your back eventually someone will develop almost like they're purpose built to beat you, because they are.

same thing happened to Anderson Silva with Weidman, who styled all over Silva hard, twice. Against other fighters now he doesn't look that great.

anyone got that one with the fat blonde soccer mom getting her ass handed to her?

>>1833458
we need to drain the swamp.

YLYL threads are always the same fucking webms month to month STOP POSTING THE SAME FUCKING SHIT.

>>1833350
your argument doesnt apply to that situation

>>1821959
Hockey fights are so fucking lame. How does anyone ever get hurt in those pansy ass fights

>>1831893
also punches are used to close the distance between one and his adversary, it puts them in the defensive so they cant reciprocate with similar attacks long enough to get close and bring the knees and elbows into play in conjunction with a firm clinch which is used to destabilize and create openings in the guard

>>1821566
>silva understands they are still in a fight he proceeds to knee him into oblivion

Then he got up, shrugged it off and won by decision.

>>1833553
Pure shame , fuck this progressive way of thinking.
Hockey is still better than divegrass ,tho.

>>1833201
you're retarded that kid was barely even hurt, the fact that red shirt moved to an armbar from a mounted position raining punches down shows how much incredible restraint he really has. he could have battered the kid but he didn't, he ended the confrontation as safely as possible. you don't know fighting so don't comment

>>1833553

hockey noob here, what types of rules and things did they make to cut back on the fighting?

>>1825515
Kek

>>1822619
I've never had such mixed feelings about a fight. Like its good to see the GOAT back even if he is a piece of shit but sucks that Cormier lost hes such a good dude, he was even kicking ass the first 2 rounds.

>>1826165
the EX version

>>1831077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtF1TPa6atg

It's pretty disappointing to hear the whole thing compared to the verse in the webm.

>>1835010
At least here in Yurop they increased the penalty from 5 minutes to 20 minutes + throwing the instigator to the showers.

>>1831077
>>1835983
Disregard last post, here's the real one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZS_W5I203w

>>1836025
americans...

>>1836033
god...............damn!

>>1836042
arm bar?

>>1836004
look at the refs face kek

>>1836044
holy fuck!

>>1836049
Hey Genki Sudo! Still love hs butterbean fight

>>1822619
too soon

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>>1836049
>>1836065

>>1835010\

In the late 90s the "fight strap rule" was implemented that mandated that players must tie down their jerseys to their gear using a strap that was sewn into the interior backside of jerseys. Anyone who fights without a their fight strap tied down is ejected from the game. This had a couple of significant effects. For one, players who weren't enforcers pretty much stopped fighting, as they the sacrifice in mobility caused by the fight strap had a detrimental effect on their play and they usually chose not wear it. Also, prior to this, you couldn't just tie a guy up in his jersey and equipment because the guy could just wriggle out of whatever you had gotten hold of( several examples of this in the webm here >>1821959
). Because of the fight strap, the fights have turned into much more defensive affairs in which the players just try to tie each other up by grabbing onto the other guys jersey/equipment and preventing him from throwing a proper punch.

In 2013 a rule was implemented that all players entering the league must wear a visor on the their helmet, and they also instituted a penalty for removing your helmet before a fight. Previously, if a player with a visor wanted to fight a player without a visor, it was an unspoken rule that both players should take their helmets off before the fight. This is going to be the death knell of fighting as more and more visorless players retire.

There's plenty of other little things, but you get the picture. Fighting in hockey has been slowly phased out of the game over the past 2 decades to the point that it's only present in the current game as a token throwback to previous eras.

>>1834998
>Implying I don't train full contact kickboxing
>Implying people who really train MA are eager to jump into any street fight.
>Implying the only reason we can't present charges against the red kid is because he's a kid. (If he were an adult, with that video, it would be a piece of cake to convince the judge to made him pay the medical bills)
>Implying implications.

This next part is laughable and by itself tells more than any of your inane babbling:

>shows how much incredible restraint

>Get barely touched in the shoulder once, literally drop everything and take it to fists.
>Once on top position, keep pounding with no regard where it hits, hitting directly into the back of the head multiple times.
>Hyper extent the elbow to the maximum possible and sustain the hold after the brown kid have verbally submitted, and even after another kid is trying to pull them apart.

If you come back to special education school, maybe you could understand he first tried the ground and pound route, but once the top position was in risk, he applied the armbar with clear intent of hurting him. He could have gone straight for the armbar after the scissor leg takedown, but no, ground and pound it was, because, you know, is much more safe.

Or, if he have any semblance of restrain and fully understanding of martial arts, not engage into a fight just because.

>>1836033
>Dat height difference.

Are they really on the same weight category?

>>1836464
Probably not, small promotions don't give a shit.

>>1830985
Tornado kick is meant to land facing the opponent so you only spin 360 degrees 540 you land with your kicking foot backwards and then spin around. 2nd degree Taekwondo here.

>>1825916
roadhouse.

>>1836460
Maybe there was a history of bullying behind the actions and that last fateful shove made the small kid go ballistic.

>>1831893
Haha found the old timey boxing faggot.

Boxing had it's time but mma is the closest to the actual sport of fighting there is.

>>1821477
To be honest she made the right call. Scalp wounds bleed and bleed and bleed - guy would've ended up shocked in about a minute at that rate.

>>1831906
In 1814 Jack Johnson went 247 rounds bareknuckled against "the bruiser"

>>1822619
Is it just me or do these guys have a huge difference in wingspan?

>>1836597
jon jones wingspan is about a foot longer than cormier's.
his nickname is bones because he has freakishly long limbs.

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>>1836773

>>1835991
I love you anon

>>1836025
AND THAT BALL IS LONG GON

LIKE THE GIRFRIEND

THAT
WILL
NEVER
RETOOORNN

>>1836575
Not so long as they forbid Muay Thai and Hapkido's anti-grappling techniques. It's just another show.

>>1836088
gold

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>>1836882
We're never going to have true and honest combat as a sport unless everyone suddenly becomes okay with fighters being routinely disfigured and killed.

>>1822619
I love how you post a webm of a ref who's too retarded to end a fight

>>1833867
Ice is hard

>>1836882
>>1836992
what anti grap techniques?
and why aren't they allowed?

>>1826161
Rolling thunder is the more correct term.

>>1837180
>people unironically bet against crawford
lmao

>>1822839
nah

>>1822619
did he ded?

>>1836547

Maybe both of them are just asshole kids who were disrespectful twats and ended up having a fight because neither of them were mature enough to diffuse the situation while everyone else just kind of stood by and let things escalate into a physical fight.

>>1831893
SHE PROBABLY TAKES DEEP DOWN HER THROAT

>>1821477
>g-guys pls stop
>guys p-pls

>>1836049
>>1836076
he has is own musical group now called world order

>>1822619
When you get kicked so hard you turn into Forrest Gump and can't stop runnang.

>>1836033
He didn't even try to set up a landing for that. Amazing though.

>>1825317
>>1821960
>>1821959
Does anyone have the video of the father who played NHL that fucked up the drunk that was harassing his daughter at their ice rink?

>>1836060
That's some Eddy Gordo shit right there.
Shouldn't it be easy to block because of the long windup time though?

>>1836004
db+4 is super effective!

>>1820177
>starting thread with 1 webm
Cant START a thread with 2 webms moron

>>1837180
and I was thinking, this would be a great fight, well it wasn't bad, but hell it was damn too short.

>>1838579
The hell went wrong with him?

>>1837114
Biting and eye-gouging.

>>1838742
muay thai teaches biting and eye gouging?
TIL

>>1838814
Here's a pretty good documentary on grappling as a street-fighting technique.

https://youtu.be/PiTrlEdCIrE?t=14m10s

>>1838818
ok
another question i had btw
in mma how come no one throws elbows to the back when they're up on the fence on a double leg

>>1836054
Kimura, he's bending the shoulder backwards, not the elbow.

>>1838499
Probably didn't anticipate the second one coming so quickly. He had his hands out to block the second one, but he miscalculated the space in between the foot and his face.

>>1836472
>>1836476
can'tnello stand up on september 16

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>>1825906
ourguy

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>>1838818
>4:11 "people in gun fights grapple"

For serious?

We have this argument all the time at /asp/, and lots of people agree grappling is not good for street fighting. Because:

a) Puts the grappler within the attacker's range. The first rule on self-defence is always to keep the distance, you don't know what the other guy is hiding, or is going to do, like pulling a knife or grabbing a rock.

b) There're no rules about what's fair or not. Situations like pic related is very common, and worse, there's no arbiter to stop shit from hitting the fan.

c) Compromises mobility. Both, aggressor and grappler are pinned to the ground, and if for some reason the grappler have to stand up, he must break his hold, which means the aggressor can attempt to keep things down if benefits him for some reason.

Sacrificing the chance to flee is a stupid, stupid idea because shit can shift for the worse all the time, but that's exactly what grappling does: sacrifice chances to run away.

On a personal note, I find hilarious how the "documentary" when confronted with the multiple opponent's dilemma, he resorts to "yeah, well, it's true it doesn't work, but grappling is still neat!", then puts lots of footage of people body slamming each other.

Now, to finish this:

http://www.bjjee.com/articles/bjj-black-belts-point-of-view-why-jiu-jitsu-is-not-suitable-for-street-fighting/
>As a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu and instructor, former competitor, Jiu-Jitsu instructor to the French Police and having worked in the security industry in various situations (music festivals, bars, nightclubs, commercial centers) I have acquired a personal opinion on this subject that I will share with you and, perhaps, will not fail to surprise most of you.
>Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is absolutely not suitable for street fighting

Some literal who on youtube vs black belt jiu jitsu with professional experience on security. Who should I listen?

>>1838862
Short serious answer, is simple: hitting on the back is forbidden because there's the chance to hurt the kidneys or the spine. Therefore, nobody throws elbows to the back so they don't get DQ.

However, another reason is closely related to the bjj history.

Trying to be short: the founders of BJJ were originally training traditional jiu jitsu. However, one day they said "yeah, fuck this, we are moving into a new school and proclaim ourselves grandmasters! BJJ is born!". Should be noted they weren't black belts in JJJ before founding BJJ.

Point is, this new BJJ was heavily focused on grappling and only grappling, apparently because that's the only thing the founders knew really well. Therefore, as BJJ grow in popularity, several things that could show the shortcomings of it were banned. Not because they were incredible dangerous, but because the founders didn't know how to counter them.

As example, body slam. A body slam on a bjj competition leads to disqualification, but judokas and wrestlers keep impacting on the floor all day long, so the reason for the banning isn't the stress on the body.

Anyway, point is, MMA was heavily influenced by BJJ, and because bjj competitions ban certain striking techniques, hitting with the elbow on the back is also forbidden.

>>1837983
not anymore

>>1838581
wut

>>1837795
Probably

>>1836025
classic bruh

>>1820180
fuck i love cro cop

>>1839166
what is the best art for street fighting then?
like if you had to pick one single art
I thought it would be wrestling, but your post makes me second guess that
my friend said krav maga, which i at first dismissed, but then he pointed out that krav maga was designed for street fighting, teaching you the type of things that are illegal in damn near every other martial art
so while other martial arts have a higher ceiling, krav maga will fare you better in self defence on the street

>>1839174
so if it weren't for the BJJ roots elbows to the back would be legal?
I don't understand if you're saying the argument for stress on the body is legitimate or not

>>1839376
Krav maga is mall ninja shit. The benefit of bjj is regular training against fully-resisting opponents. Truth is that you can apply the "you never know what will happen, multiple attackers/knife/gun/rock/big dildo" argument to any discipline. When you're faced with any of those hazards, no school of martial arts will be better than fleeing, no matter how awesome that krag maga tacticool wannabe operator on youtube makes gun disarming look. In a 1v1 situation against your average normie it's my opinion that bjj gives you the best edge. In a best-case scenario you can subdue your opponent without causing serious harm to either of you. Just my $0.02 but don't take one guy's opinion as the final say. If you're looking for something to get into start with looking around your area for legit instructors. A really great plain-old karate dojo will always be superior to a half-assed bjj gym.

>>1838579
>let me show you the dance of my people

>>1839472
it's not the you never know what'll happen argument that i can't refute, it's the illegal move argument
>krav maga was designed for street fighting, teaching you the type of things that are illegal in damn near every other martial art
so while other martial arts have a higher ceiling, krav maga will fare you better in self defence on the street
what exactly is the counterargument for this other than "meme art"

>>1839489
Sometimes something being a "meme" is enough to qualify it as poor. The only thing that KM has going for it is its reputation as super hardcore. I can't imagine learning something in class and then trying it in a real-life altercation without having ever practiced it against another fully-resisting opponent. KM is a perfoamance martial art. It looks really cool, almost like a choreographed Hollywood action movie fight. It has no application in the real world unless you spar, and since you can't spar with knives or guns it's useless. That's my argument. In karate, bjj, MT, etc. you spar with others (bjj especially) so you can hone your technique in situations that are close in energy to real-life fights. I'm sure there's some operator out there who has used KM to remove lots of kebab, and has gotten really good at it over time with practice (i.e. removing kebab). Normies don't get the chance to kill people all the time so you're training for a game that will never come. Imagine going to soccer practice forever and never playing a game. That's Krav Maga.

>>1839376
>what is the best art for street fighting then?
Knowing how to run really fast, motherfucker.

>>1839528
This. Proficiency in any martial art will give you the confidence to try and non-violently diffuse a situation without giving the aggressor the impression that you're easy prey. If that doesn't work, get yourself out of there. Macho bullshit is the most retarded reason to learn a martial art (bjj purple belt here).

>>1825916
He is dead?

>>1836044
Some damn good judo there.

>>1833671
Styled? Weidman only won because Silva was fooling around in the first fight, and in the second because the leg injury

>>1839376
The real key to pick an art for street fighting isn't the name of the style, but the coach and his training methods. As this anon said, >>1839500 the only way to learn useful applicable techniques, is to train them in as close as possible to real life scenarios, which includes sparing with resisting partners. To put a comparative, is like learning to play a guitar vs doing air guitar all day long. One will prepare you to play in a concert, the other is just a dance. If you want to call it like that.

Now, from a personal point of view, striking is superior to grappling when talking about the street, because as previously pointed, striking try to keep some distance between aggressor and striker, allowing for much better mobility and being fully aware of the surroundings. In fact, styles like boxing have a heavy focus on footwork and mobility.

Also, lots of people don't train any martial art, or any sport at all, so even a few lucky shots can finish a fight. Mummy guard, back twisted knot choke and such techniques are fancy and all, but unnecessary when a jab can finish the fight as or more quickly.

So, if I must have to name something, I would suggest boxing. No, seriously. As I said, they do a lot of footwork, so running out of there is always an option. Because they don't train kicks, there's a lower risk of slipping when trying to do a douma washi. And finally, punching can always finish a fight.

But nearly any full contact place focused on striking is a good option, disregarding if they are called karate, savate or ching chong fu.

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>>1839906
>be white belt in ching chong fu
>master ping ling won't let me advance to turquoise belt until i can flawlessly perform ding ling chow choo kick
>mfw

>>1836449
Thanks for the interesting info anon

>>1838499
not used to the technique so he mistimed the block. Pretty much exactly like fighting Eddy Gordo in Tekken.

>>1822619
DC is such a boring ass fighter. Jones is a massive dick bag though

>>1836811
uhh. rolling axe kick?

>>1825914
The redhead is Canelo?

>>1839376
gun

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>>1822622

>>1831906
>Fighters would break their hands all the time if they were bare knuckled and would have to throw more cautiously.

False. Open-fist strikes would make a huge comeback and you'd see way less punches thrown to the crown.

>>1822619
Lol Jones failed his drug test again.

>>1820221
>replying to samefag

>>1836004
That fucking Statue of Liberty fall, kek.

>>1838579
When you'd rather be playing QWOP than fighting.

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>>1836025

>>1841822
does he got disqualified of smg?

>>1836992
well ya. gladiators were the most honest entertainment. not going to happen again.

>>1838814
Bro hes talking about an actual fight. in the street. anything goes there and pretty much any martial arts has techniques for exactly that reason.
All these techniques are banned in competetition because you can seriously hurt or kill your opponent with them.
See muay thai grappling defense. Also head stomping, biting when youre getting submitted etc.

>>1835831
The goat who failed yet another USADA test... He's nothing without the roids.

>>1841850
did not know that
thanks

>>1838579
>>1841713
or Toribash

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>>1842101

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What a journey it's been

>>1837983
I had no idea he did MMA
Pretty cool

>>1833201
Rules of war, mate. You don't fight to win one battle. You fight to win that battle and every single battle from then on. I guarantee that kid won't mess with the other again.

>>1842104

>That late stoppage

>>1842388
this.

>>1839174
This is complete absolute bullshit. Wrestlers and Judokas can use all their slams in BJJ competitions. And their are also current BJJ competitions that do allowed slamming meant to hurt the opponent.

>>1822622
lmao

>>1839166
What did that situation in your gif have to do with BJJ? It's the guys fault for not standing up and running away when surrounded. He clearly had enough control to do that. Also here is a Brazilian jiu Jitsu black belt saying BJJ is good for self defense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbOiiQpQRhw

>>1839166
Also I disagree with you saying grappling sacrifices the chance to run away. Grappling CREATES the chance to run away. The best anti grappling is knowing how to grapple.

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Also I hate arguing over the internet about martial arts. I feel like if all of us met in real life we'd be having a good time discussing our opinions and enjoying meeting someone with the same hobby. Any way I'll dump some gifs bros.

>>1821480
Mace Windu at it again

>>1821477
>>1821479

She actually did the right call to check for injury. That wasn't just some light bleeding that was some free flowing bleeding there.

>>1838814

Traditionally a large amount of martial arts hace biting, gouging, finger locks/small joint manipulation, headbutting, groin and eye strikes in their repertoire. These have all been omitted from modern forms or the moves have been repurposed and modified to be less dangerous so they are now designed for self defence, sport and competition or in some cases exhibition. Obviously many of these are disallowed due for their potential to cause significant injury and fatality but some places still teach it due for historical reasons and preservation. A case in point is with Fencing, modern Fencing has changed so much that the techniques taught are designed now to deal with nothing more than olympic level competition rules and less for actual warfare/duelling fencing. Others like say in greco-roman wrestling where a suplex was originally an unarmed combat technique used to actually kill an enemy soldier in the classical era because of the helmets of that era restricting the head movement, if you performed a suplex that had them land on their shoulders back in that era they would of course naturally be dead from a snapped neck.

>>1839174

>Trying to be short: the founders of BJJ were originally training traditional jiu jitsu. However, one day they said "yeah, fuck this, we are moving into a new school and proclaim ourselves grandmasters! BJJ is born!". Should be noted they weren't black belts in JJJ before founding BJJ.

That isn't exactly accurate. A more accurate nutshell example is that Maeda taught Judo to Carlos Gracie and Luiz Franca and over time they wanted to explore less of the stand up and more of the ground game of Judo hence the origins of BJJ as it is today with heavy emphasis on ground techniques. Judo originally had four areas of focus with arm length jiu jitsu, clinching, kneeling jiu jitsu and ground based jiu jitsu. BJJ is pretty much a heavy emphasis on the last bit and modern Judo has more emphasis on the other aspects, predominantly standing arm length jiu jitsu and clinching.

Now I don't know about other dudes in this chat who have done MMA training but i've found that most dudes who came from a predominantly heavy BJJ background as their base style tend to have a terrible standup game in protecting themselves from strikes and standing holds at first.

>>1839376

>what is the best art for street fighting then?

If by street fighting you meant self defence then this is going to sound fucking funny but it's Parkour. How you gonna get hurt when you just climbed 3 flight of steps and jumped to another rooftop within 5 seconds from the ground floor? Actual fighting is and should be the last resort.

>>1843560
I believe it could get you out of trouble, but it also makes you look like a little bitch. If your options are get the shit beat out you or run away, then maybe it's understandable. But if your options are beat the shit out of him or run away, I would prefer those choices.
These niggas taking "fighting is the last resort" too far.
Far as I'm concerned, if I can make you run to the fuckin rooftops everytime I see you, I win.

>>1841822
gawd damn

>>1843211
she had trained for months to master the arts of blocking with her face.
good to see the training paid off.

>>1836025
"I broke my hand" not "hello, japan."

>>1843211
I'll never understand why everybody made such a big deal about Rousey's striking when she's always looked extremely stiff and downright retarded. I've never been a fan but watching any fighter get picked apart is hard desu

>>1843230
Why is Herb still allowed to be a ref, holy shit. He's worse than John.

>>1844379
He says "hello Japan".

The Jap commentators even give him shit about it.
>hello Japan, more like goodbye Japan

>>1826161
gone with the wind

>>1833867
Every single person has blades strapped to their feet.

>>1836048
completely jello'd

>>1822619
delete this

>>1846269
kek I lost at Conor doing his retarded mewvment during the match.

>>1843665
That's why you start tossing water balloons at them once you're on the roof, nigger.

>>1846269
loved this guys other Conor animation

GIMME YER BELT

>>1821247
wow

>>1837114
You can't knee the upper body of a downed opponent which is Muay Thai's no. 1 defense vs takedowns.
You also can't elbow downwards, another strong deffense vs takedowns.
Other non-Muay Thai takedown defenses that are banned are the piledriver, the fish hook and hitting the kidney area of the back.

All this combined is why MMA is so groundwork-heavy compared to vale tudo and street fighting.

>>1820173
Underrated

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>>1820169
Does anyone have that insane boxing footwork video?

>>1839376
I'm going to say Muay Thai, and this is coming from someone that doesn't even practice it. Good luck finding a good teacher though, you'll have to actually go to thailand as far as I can tell. Proper muay thai is the most brutal shit I have ever seen. Someone that knows muay thai well is about on the same threat level for me as some random third worlder with a machete. It's not even the techniques themselves that impress me but the fact that muay thai strategy seems significantly more developed than any other style as far as actual street fighting is concerned. That strategy will probably be almost completely lost in a few decades though, muay thai is subject to the dumbing down of everything that becomes a sport, they've just held on the longest because thai dudes are a bunch of violent niggers.

>>1843560
"come down here and fight like a man"
i don't supposed i could convince you to come up here and fight like a spider."

>>1836880
kek

>>1822619
When will manlets learn?

>>1838499
no one expects the pinwheel

>>1847946
This is why everyone should practice foot placement, grabbing is the ultimate way to end fights.

>>1844756
he doesn't

you and the jap commentators are retarded

>>1843211
Man that footwork from Rousey is amazing. She's like a female Ali.

>>1848297
he said "hello japan"
aoki joked about it afterwards
also he got it as his nickname

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>>1820169

>>1836044
>>1839568
i see you know your judo well

>>1848417
that fight was a joke. all it proved was boxers are better at boxing

>>1838579
playing with inverted controls

>>1825920
is this real life

>>1831893
... gloves are there to protect the hands, you doof. Also why boxing is so damn dangerous. Without the fear of breaking your hand or fingers people punch a lot harder than they would without them.

>>1848384
Post-parkingsons, maybe.

>>1822619
fucking druglord jones, DC was robbed

>>1848417
let's say conor and mayweather never faught and they bump into each other on the street then get into a heated argument that goes south... without body guards who wins that fight

>>1848864
lol wtf Connor everytime

>>1836048
I'll take that pizza
B O N E L E S S
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>>1848456
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS

>>1848864
Mayweather is so accustomed to dancing around that he'd fold to just about any pro fighter in that situation.

>>1848864
Always the MMA fighter.

>>1838581
rofl

>>1847946
>ice cream music in the background
How can you fight when tasty ice cream is right there. Fucking animals man.

>>1848512
I really want to see mayweather fight even an amateur MMA fight.

>>1847946
>being such a nigger you straight up go for attempted murder instead of just knocking someone out

>>1848414
>t. retarded jap

>>1848417
yeah for sure land a punch Floyd....

>>1833465
if you notice Grimson immediately exits the rink after he threw the punch. He knew he was going to get expelled.

>>1847995
The one with Mike Tyson in his prime, right?

>>1848864
Hard to say. Mayweather would have a pretty good chance to knock out McGregor in the initial stage of the fight, but if McGregor managed to turn the fist-fight into a grappling game he'd be in his element.

>>1839166
In HEMA, all the old manuals showed grappling as a means to throw your opponent to the ground, then either stab him with a dagger or kick him in the face. In the pseudo-historical sport of Glima, the object is to put your opponent on the ground without going to ground yourself, and then getting up into a fighting position while your opponent is still on the ground. It's based on the premise that, in a battle or combat with more than one opponent, the absolute last thing you want to do is be on the ground where his buddies can just kill you while you're looking for a good hold.

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>>1847995
>>1849564
gotchu

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bonus

>>1849570
Mayweather would not have a pretty good chance to knock out McGregor. Did you even watch the first rounds? Those clinches would turn into a takedown, then it is straight up over. Please Mayweather didn't even knockout McGregor in the fight, that was a tko due to fatigue.

>>1838579
What physics engine was that fight running?

>>1849107
How can you be so confident when you are clearly wrong?

>>1848876
D E A D A S S

>>1849699
We're talking about a real fight, not a sporting context. Boxing is a sport first and foremost, but you can't deny that the best boxer can out-punch the best MMA fighter any day, because their entire training program is devoted to punches and nothing else. That said, the best MMA fighter can out-grapple the best boxer, because boxers don't train wrestling.

>>1849671
God damn, seeing how fast and how accurate he throws his entire body into punches, recoveries and movement is pure art.

>>1849800
And having said that, the best Olympic wrestler would make an MMA fighter look like a child in a wrestling game. Specialization is a powerful thing when you can keep the fight in the game you're good at.

>>1848417
que esta pasando doctor garcia!

>>1849570
Grappling doesn't work in the street. Try holding an armbar while the asshole is biting a chunk off your calf.

>>1849875
that would only work if their calf has nothing covering it, also go to the 7:00 min mark and watch from there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd_oBd5DENk

>>1839376
running away

>>1849875
Lmao, if somebody would bite your leg while you have the armbar, you just fuckin snap his arm. Same with eye-gouging while having a choke, you just tuck your head and put him to sleep. All this Krav maga "too dangerous for competition" shit is just a big meme.

>>1849929
W H O

>>1849929
I think i'm in love.

>>1849800
You are forgetting that stand up fighting isn't just boxing. There are kicks, knees, and elbows. Even in stand up without grappling, McGregor would most likely win, also considering Mayweather has never fought without gloves before.

>>1849929
i want her to beat me up

>>1848864
In a bar or crowded party where most fights break out you can't do fucking takedowns or roundhouse kicks. Conor would get his shit pushed in by Mayweather, Conor would be eating floor.

>>1849976
You are correct, except that plenty of fights start and end in the boxing stage. All it takes is a half-way decent punch to the inside of the jaw, the eye, the kidney, solar plexus, or the neck and it's pretty much game over from there. If you're not out of the fight completely, you're trying to recover while your opponent is pressing the attack.

That's why I'm saying, if Mayweather could control the fight and keep McGregor out of grappling range, he stands a pretty good chance of winning. But if McGregor were to close the distance safely without getting knocked out, say with a flying knee or something, he'd be playing a game he's better than Mayweather at. Personally, I think a young Mike Tyson vs McGregor would be a better match-up, but whatever.

>>1850027
Kicks out range punches by far, Mayweather has never had to deal with them, and Connor throws a lot of kicks. Thinking that Mayweather is going to outrange Connor with boxing, when kicks are involved just won't happen.

>>1839376
being born big so nobody fucks with you

>>1843219
kek guy is like dead in the background

>>1842101
Underrated

>>1836088
Always loved the silly shit. Keep it fun, you won't get to do it forever. Might as well have a good time

>>1842101
When they say kung-fu is bullshit

>inb4: that's karate
Karate's direct background is kung-fu

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>>1833201
bullies only understand violence. if you don't shut that shit down with overwhelming force they keep coming back for more. you absolutely have to prove to them the amount of pain you can inflict on them so they take the hint and never even glance in your direction ever again

>>1849929
>over 9000

>>1822157
that was a good call, you faggot

>>1821481
what did he say?

>>1847440
Wow I've never seen so much bullshit written in one post before.

>>1850007
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2io3de Wow that was easy to disprove. When fights happen at all that stuff people back off in fucking circles and watch.

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Samart Payakaroon WBC championship fight against the holding champion

>>1851901
lmao

>>1844379
>t. idiot who believes ancient sherdog falsehoods