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Is it a crime to like the n64 these days?
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Is it a crime to like the n64 these days?

I didn't even grow up with the system
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No. You're entitled to your own opinion. I personally think the N64 has a ton of great games.
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The N64 is a pretty overrated nostalgiafag system but has like 10-20 games that are worth playing today
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>>2897412
Nah, it was a good system.

It's easy to think it had no games, but then you get to listing them all out and you realize it actually had a pretty good library.
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nintendo systems are the only way to get nintendo games. Personally, I think they are all terrible systems, but the games are fantastic. it's not that hard to hold these two judgements in your head, at the same time.

Personally, I had a ball with Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day. I would really like to pick up some more N64 games.
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The best games for the system are Star Fox 64 and Sin & Punishment
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if shitty controllers and polygons are your thing, knock yourself out.
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>>2897439
I always felt mischief makers was a good but overrated cult classic

However, Sin and punishment is absolutely amazing and not mentioned as often
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>>2897430
Mischief Makers
F-Zero X
Ogre Battle 64
Paper Mario
Yoshi's Story (maybe)
Wonder Project J2

Less than 10, even if I missed a few. No low framerate action game is worth playing.
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What's a crime is me not having one anymore. Shit is a pain in the ass to emulate.
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>>2897412
What? Of course not. It is a crime to start shit threads on /vr/ and for that you must be held accountable. Mods, please escort this OP to /v/ until trial.
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>>2897457
I mean let's get real, you're not gonna include Super Mario 64?

Also throw Blast Corps in
Japanese Bomberman 64

I pretty much hate the N64 relative to other systems but let's not get ridiculous
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>>2897457
>No low framerate action game is worth playing.

Good so we can avoid Metal Gear Solid and Vagrant Story
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>>2897491
Don't forget Outrun in all its 30FPS glory.
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>>2897491
I never understood the FPS meme, this has to be the same crowd that buys remade PS3 games with the same exact graphics on PS4, like God of War 3 and Last of Us remastered
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>>2897502
I understand it on one hand, some games are just hard to bear with their framerates. Good examples to me are goldeneye and perfect dark, esp. the latter. I like them but the framerates do detract from the game. Ocarina of Time is another one like that but at least we have the 3D version which is a consistent 60.

I think it mostly comes from PC fans who deal with modern game makers doing lazy ports to PC which restrict the framerate arbitrarily despite high-end PCs often being easily capable of doing 60 or higher in said games. The meme is just a mindless, blanket application of that frustration as a zero tolerance rule for all of gaming. To me it seems clear that higher framerates should be better in pretty much any case, but I won't go and say any game which doesn't run at high framerates is bad for that alone. There are more merits to consider than technical matters, barring extreme cases.
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>>2897491
>Metal Gear Solid
Basically an interactive movie. Imagine how boring it would be without the voice acting. Would suck even at 60fps.

>Vagrant Story
Terrible interface, made worse because you're forced to (very slowly) switch weapons all the time. Again, framerate is far from its only problem.

>>2897496
>Outrun
Play the superior Saturn port.
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>>2897613
I play the 3DS port, 60FPS and 3D is a thing to behold.

Either way I can appreciate your dedication to upholding high standards, but there's no need to be overly critical of games you dislike which happen to also have low framerates. It just comes off as flaming here which is not necessary.
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>>2897604
>least we have the 3D version which is a consistent 60.
Well actually the 3DS version plays at 30 fps. But it's fine, it's noticeably more smooth because it's a multiple of 60, unlike the original which is like, 24.
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>>2897457
You forgot Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask? Are you just trying to be contrarian or...?

And if you include Yoshi's Story you should have no problem with including the rest of Nintendo's and Rare's output on the system, that'll bring you above 20 games.
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>>2897620
>unlike the original which is like, 24
The original is 20fps, which is 60/3. The difference in smoothness is because 30 is higher than 20, not because of pulldown judder.
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>>2897621
I did not forget any of those. <60fps is low framerate, and there's no reason to play such games when there are so many other good games with acceptable framerates.
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>>2897628
Oh, I thought I read somewhere (not on 4chan) that it was 24 in order to look cinematic.

Well then yes, 30 > 20.
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>>2897447
Because most people had never even heard of it until its Virtual Console release.
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>>2897621
Yoshi's Story is decent fun but doesn't hold a candle to the original

It's very arcade-like. Would have made more sense as a Saturn game desu
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>these comments

/vr/ is dead

RIP
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>>2897412
It's overrated outside of /vr/ and underrated inside /vr/.

You're entitled to your opinion. I don't care for choppy framerates or 3D collectathons, so I'm pretty indifferent.
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>>2897651
>desu

what does this mean?
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>>2897620
>>2897628
>>2897634
OoT and MM are 20fps because they internally render at 60fps, but only rasterize on every third internally processed frame.

So the display is 20fps, but the input time is like a 60fps game.
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>>2897657
i wrote "t b h", but it get's auto-corrected as desu
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>>2897667
try tbqh, pham
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>>2897657
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>>2897412
The games had too much fog and looked like they had vaseline smeared over the screen.

Fuck N64.
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I wish it became trendy to hate on other brands for a little while. Nintendo is always the punching bag for no good reason other than it's the cool thing to do.
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>>2897657
4chan filters "t.b.h." to desu for the lulz

Desu is a Japanese word that means "is", and is something of a meme because a lot of anime characters tack it onto the end of every sentence.
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>>2897680
Eh. As a Nintendo fan it is a little frustrating, but there's plenty of Sega hate on this board too.
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>>2897412
I'm not sure how I would rank it overall but it's got to be a top 5 consoles for me. There's so much games I missed out on as well. The controller is pretty damn solid. The only real issue, a big issue with it admittedly, is the control stick. It was really stupid of them to go with such a crappy control stick. N64 reminds me of when consoles were still about fun. Just look at those colors? Look at that design? You don't get that these days.

So I would say people should like the N64.
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>>2897689
>It was really stupid of them to go with such a crappy control stick

I actually think the control stick is good (I like how it applies more pressure the further it is pushed out of the center), but durability is the biggest problem.

Pretty uncharacteristic of a Nintendo product really.
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It's just not a very good system. Going with cartridges absolutely destroyed any chance that it could compete with the PlayStation and the Saturn when it came to game libraries. 2000 and 1000 games versus 200 or so says it all.

And the good games the N64 got were DESPITE its hardware and cartridges. If they'd gone with CDs instead of cartridges, Sega and Sony would have probably been crushed by it. They shed all decent third party developers besides Konami (who still sort of half assed it). Japanese developers were going through a renaissance at the time and the N64 completely missed out on all those great games because of Nintendo's stubbornness. MGS, Final Fantasy, Radiant Silvergun etc. vs. what N64 third party support? Turok?

And this is coming from a Nintendo fan who waited for the N64 whilst everyone else bought a PlayStation. I gave up and bought a PlayStation around Christmas 1997 and a Saturn a little bit later.

Honestly it was the end of Nintendo as a proper competitor, from then on they went off and did there own thing and that's fine.
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>>2897685
It's funny cuz if you leave retro circles it seems no one knows Sega at all but for Sonic.
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Don't understand the 64 hate. Its a great system with a lot of great games. Certainly not the best system, but one of them. In my opinion anyways. I have lots of fun with it.
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>>2897657
Tbh
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yo guys what's going on in this thread
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The 64 is overrated and I grew up with it. But there are still are games for the system though I still would like to try some more non nintendy racers on the console here are some of my favorites
Sin and Punishment
Perfect Dark
Custom Robo
Bomberman Hero
Wave Racer 64
Smash is good but the Smash series gets too much credit than it deserves
Mario 64
>>2897621
OoT is overrated and MM is a bit underrated
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>>2897695
This, also I would have appreciated a rubber grip. Otherwise very precise, not a lot of other precise joysticks like that one.
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>>2897737
>OoT is overrated and MM is a bit underrated
Its the other way around on 4chan
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>>2897457
This. Especially because it excluded 3DPD Mario & Zelda.
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>>2897717
>MGS, Final Fantasy, Radiant Silvergun etc. vs. what N64 third party support? Turok?

Well, both Saturn and N64 got nice Treasure support, PS1 only got 1 Treasure exclusive and it's arguably one of their weakest/less memorable ones (Rakugaki Showtime, fun but not on par with most of the rest of their works).

Saturn has Radiant Silvergun, Silouhette Mirage (ported to PS1) and Guardian Heroes
N64 has Mischief Maker, Sin and Punishment and Bangai-O (Dreamcast got a remake but I personally like the N64 a bit better due to controls and game system)
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>>2897739
Not the way i'm remembering it.
I still remember when this board really got up in arms against OoT. HxC gaemr call this GoAT. MM is usually considered one of the black sheep in the series. I think LttP is the best. But im probably a minority in that one.
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SNES > Gamecube > NES > Wii > N64 > Wii U > Virtualboy
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>>2897994
NES > GameCube > Wii > SNES > Wii U > N64
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>>2897994
>>2898003
gamecube is garbage
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>>2898042
Pretty much. It had a couple good games though, like metroid prime for example.
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>>2898052
I appreciate Metroid Prime more and more with each passing year. Imagine if new AAA games coming out were like Prime instead of like... what they are now.
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>>2898042
GameCube had a lot of oddball games and some good third party support. It's a hundred million times better than the N64 and I'm not a huge RPG fan so I like it more than the SNES too. F-Zero GX and Resident Evil 4 are enough to make it one of the best Nintendo systems.
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>>2897412
Dont be swayed by the memes. The N64 was truly something special. The problem is, you missed out. You really had to grow up with it. I cant/dont want to even explain it. But others around my age remember it well.
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>>2897717
>If they'd gone with CDs instead of cartridges, Sega and Sony would have probably been crushed by it.
What about bettering their relationships with third parties (especially the Jap ones) since both sides (att at least) have been sour towards each other since even the NES days? Or making their dev kits much easier to work with?

>>2898042
I disagree. It was something of an improvement over the N64 in many aspects.
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>>2898092
>I cant/dont want to even explain it
it's called nostalgia and babby's first 3D
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>>2898072
>F-Zero GX
My nigger.

Best 6th gen game.
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>>2898140
Maybe because it was the worst 5th gen console?

JP Saturn > PSX >>>> N64
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>>2898131
Damn it sucks you will never experience it bro. Well I hope you at least got to enjoy your the xbox hueg growing up, it had some good games I guess, and that xbox live shit or whatever
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>>2898131
>the only reason you like anything is because nostalgia and everything actually sucks

Oh god, it's invading /vr/ too.

Anyway, there's gigabytes of text online explaining why people love Mario 64, OoT, MM, BK, etc, it's very easy to search out if you're curious.
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>>2898146
>Damn it sucks you will never experience it bro
I was actually just the right age to realize it was shit, my early childhood belonged to the SNES/Genesis, thanks. Ge 5 sucked balls and the only thing the N64 was good for was 4-player Goldeneye and occasionally fucking around with Starfox/Smash/pokeyman. I feel sorry for anyone who had it as a primary system when the PS1, though still shit, was the better option.
>>2898147
>Anyway, there's gigabytes of text online
Yeah and nobody cares, except for you.
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I'm trying to collect the best and "worst" of N64. Ok, I'm lieing. I'm just trying to collect the games I missed out on plus my favorites.

So far my only game is Mystical Ninja because my friend who I gave that to for Christmas lost his passion for collecting and is giving it to me back.

My list to buy/rebuy includes the following:

Played: OoT gold cart and v1.1, MM, Goemon's Great Adventure, Castlevania 64, Turok, Chameleon Twist 2, Jet Force Gemini, Sin & Punishment (I know JP only), Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Micro Machines, Lego Racers

Never played:
Body Harvest, Winback, Mischief Makers, Hybrid Heaven, Resident Evil 2, Nightmare Creatures, Flying Dragon, Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, Space Station Silicon Valley, Blast Corps, Robotron 64, Road Rash 64, Turok 2 and 3

Games I'm not immediately interested in (worth more than I'm willing to pay):
Banjo games, anything Pokemon, Smash Bros., Conker, Mario Kart 64 (my family has bought this game so many times...), Diddy Kong Racing, DK64, Star Wars games besides Shadow of the Empire

I also want some campy third-party sports games to kill time, but I can't think of any.


In short: help.
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>>2898181
I gave it to him 2 Christmas's ago I should say. And it's brand new still sealed.
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>>2898153
>mfw I like both the 3rd and the 5th gens, but don't care for the 4th gen that much with a few exceptions
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>>2897657
This is.
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>>2898181
>Never played Turok 2 and 3

Bro....
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>>2897491
>mgs
>low frame rate
Either I'm used to sub 30 or you're just wrong
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>>2898267
I played Turok. Not 2 and 3.
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Basically it's a crime to like anything.

Just criticize, criticize and criticize, it's the only way to show the internet that you know your shit.
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>>2898290
But make sure you don't offer any actual thoughts, discussion, or originality. Make damn sure it's clear you don't have a real argument. Just talk shit about everything so people know how much better you are than them.
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>>2898295

Of the fucking course. Why would I waste time actually giving arguments? I'll just call anything shit and watch the nerds get salty, just because I'm THAT cool. I'm a total memester, a master of the bait.
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>>2898290
>>2898295
>>2898323
get a room with a crt
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>>2898290
And anything you do like you only like "ironically"
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>>2898286
Well i suggest you play them asap, they are awesome games!
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>>2897412
The system didn't age too well. Annoyingly every developer tried "3D" aspect and ditched 2D. Most games are horrible and hard to play because of this...
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>>2898369
>age

what did he mean by this?
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>>2898375
He means nothings. Just stating his opinion.
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Only really holds up because Rareware. Cant imagine how it would have done without them
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>I think LttP is the best. But im probably a minority in that one.

Kind of. Those that don't consider OoT to be GOAT usually pick LttP.
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>>2897717
>destroyed any chance that it could compete with the PlayStation and the Saturn
I understand PS1, but Saturn? Did it do well at the time?
Also I think N64 did just fine just because of Mario 64 and OoT, be them overrated or not.
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>>2897412

>day 1 fag here

I literally got my n64 on preorder and picked it up day 1

playing mario 64 for the first time was mind blowing especially the transition to 3d play and trying to master it

Go play tick tock clock and rainbow ride for the first time and tell me how it feels

Heres the thing

it has aged very poorly

although i loved it at the time

Playing it now the graphics are heavily dated, few really good games compared to the libraries of previous systems, and they were still mastering 3d gameplay so games reflect this learning curve and poor mastery of it

everything is temporal

it was fun at the time but nostalgia isn't enough

it has to stand on its merit
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>>2898520
N64 only did well in the US and bad in Japan while the Saturn was the total opposite it did very well in Japan and ok in the US. Not sure about PAL but Sega released more stuff for the Saturn over there than here.
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>>2898042
GC is N64 v2. Has great first party games but really lacks on third party support, which is pretty much the situation that Nintendo find itself nowadays anyway.
Also, its competitor was the fucking PS2. Just because it has less games than the PS2 doesn't make it a bad console, it only makes it less worth getting if you had to pick one.
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>>2898534
Didn't know that. I thought it was Saturn that killed Sega, so I supposed that it sold like shit.
It doesn't help that I barely know its library.
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As long as you admit the PSX had 2 or 3 times more great games than it... sure.
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>>2898540
saturn sold poorly in the west even though genesis did incredibly well here (usa) because big box stores wouldn't carry it and it had limited developer support outside japan. both thanks to its surprise launch. don't let anon fool you that shit did not sell well here and was discontinued early, regardless of its awesome software base.
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>>2897682
this board is full of nice people.
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>>2898540
yeah, there is a reason why people say its better to import the saturn library. It was Saturn vs Playstation in Japan.It's a meme that the Saturn killed Sega but there are many factors to it but the saturn DID contribute to Sega's downfall. N64 sold like poor due to how late it came over there while people were already content with Saturn, Playstation or PC-FX.
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>>2898565
Not to mention that smoking turd of the 64DD.
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>>2898570
that too! Not to mention some developers complained about how difficult it was to program for the 64. Though there are some good JP exclusives. It's a mere fraction of the Playstation and Saturn's immense Japanese exclusive games.
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>>2898570
>tfw Mother 64 is canceled and u are heartbroken as a young teen
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>>2898548

Agreed, it's a crime to think PSX has good games, pure shovelware
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>>2897680
Tell that to SNES faggots
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>>2899104

>SNES faggots

what do you mean?
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The Nintendo 64 controller may not be the best, but it certainly isn't bad. I love the way it fits your hand with the handles and the stick has a little resistance to it.

That, and I've never been a fan of the Playstation controller, and before the PS4 I'd use any console to avoid that awful controller, was pretty disappointing I had to use it for Silent Hill 3, considering 2 and 4 were on Xbox.

>>2897679

With other systems you can class them up with s-video or RGB or whatever but N64 always looks its best on a CRT. My 3DO, Saturn, PS1 whatever, it all looks serviceable on a modern television, but not the N64. Its like the blur ontop of the blur cancels it out.
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>>2897412
No, the last good Nintendo system imo.
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>>2897680
>Nintendo is always the punching bag for no good reason other than it's the cool thing to do.

There's a lot of good reasons to hate on Ninty, just as there are a lot of other reasons to hate on others like Sega or Sony, don't kid yourself, there are no saints in the world, even less in the videogame industry.
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>>2897682
>Desu is a Japanese word that means "is", and is something of a meme because a lot of anime characters tack it onto the end of every sentence.

Well, since Japanese is SOV, that's how you are supposed to do it. Kind of like "The tree Brown is," or "She a great friend is," except replace is with desu.

Some character from Rozen Maiden would just use it excessively, and up sayings "It's X" over and over and over again, which started the fad.

Polite sage for offtopic
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>>2897412
I bought one last year with:

Resident Evil 2
Goldeneye
Mario 64
Paper Mario
Star Wars SOTE
Star Wars Ep I Racer
Re-Volt
Mario Kart 64
The Leg of Zelda OoT

RE2 & ocarina aside i think it's shit. It's mostly nostalgia i think.
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>>2899107
SNES fanboys are the worst

Although Genesis fans aren't that much better though and this is coming from a Segatard
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>>2899180

Get Mystical Ninja starring Goemon, Goemon's Great Adventure, Mischief Makers, Wave Race 64, F-Zero X, Starfox 64, and if you can mod your console to play imports, Sin and Punishment is a must have.

You didn't like Paper Mario?
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>>2897726
… in 'murica only.
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>>2899156
Oh I know that, I was referring to the characters who say it at the end of pretty much every sentence, which isn't a normal way to talk in Japanese.
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>>2899180
Mario Kart 64 was indeed shit, people only like it because of nostalgia.

I'll fight you over Mario 64 and Paper Mario though, those games are great.
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>>2899224

Is it really only nostalgia? I like Mario Kart 64 because it's a fun karting game, and it has some really great courses, who doesn't love Wario's Stadium or that one with the train?

You can prefer other games in the series or even outside the series like DKR or CTR, but MK64 is still alright yo
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>>2898181
>I also want some campy third-party sports games to kill time

snowboard kids.
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>>2897412
It doesn't have the god-tier library of the SNES, but there are 20-25ish games on it that are must-plays. Just emulate and use a dualshock or something instead of the octopus garbage.
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>>2899348

>N64
>emulate

you're evil anon
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>>2897412
Like whatever you want, but it was a shit system and 3/4 of the people who claim to like it are blinded by nostalgia
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>>2899358
I find it to be a very decent system and many of my favorite games on it were played in the past 10 years for the first time.
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It is such a great console with so many wonderful games, it would be a crime not to love it. The people saying otherwise don't understand videogames very well or else have almost never played a N64 and are just shittalking.
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>>2897412
May as well be, you're going to get sperged out at more than for liking any other system. It's amazing that in /vr/ of all places you'll be told "it's just nostalgia, this consoles actually really bad."

To be fair only Mario Party 1-3, Wave Race, the Goemon games, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Banjo Kazooie & Banjo Tooie, the Chameleon Twist games, Mace the Dark Age, Resident Evil 2, Star Fox 64, OOT, Majora's Mask, Body Harvest, Super Mario 64, Snowboard Kids 1 & 2, F-Zero X, Super Smash Bros, Mischief Makers, Turok 1-3, Paper Mario, Gauntlet Legends, Ogre Battle, Bomberman Hero, Bomberman 64 1 & 2, Megaman 64, Donkey Kong 64, Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2, Pokemon Snap and Pokemon Puzzle League, Mario Kart 64 and Diddy Kong Racing are the only games worthwhile on the system and not all of them are for everyone. There's a few good jap-only games too. I guess there was a couple enjoyable FPS games too like Hexen/Doom/Quake ports, Armorines and Rainbow Six but I wouldn't recommend them personally, despite enjoying them.

I just want to say this though: if you enjoy the N64 it's really not that surprising. I grew up with a PSX in my bedroom and my brother had an N64 in his. As far a multiplayer experience went the N64 was superior, you have 4 controllers without fussing around with a multitap and a lot of games that make good use of those controllers.

Also the PSX seemed to have considerably less in the way of "3D" actually going on. It was always some 3D and some sprites, or isometry or something. Not that that was a bad thing as far as stability went, but in terms of 3D adventures or FPS the N64 was the champ there too. I can't think of anything that rivals Star Fox, Banjo or OOT level gameplay on the PSX.

I think if Nintendo had not pushed away franchises that'd been in the Nintendo boat earlier on (like Metal Gear, Final Fantasy and Street Fighter) we would have an incredibly different retrospective on the console over a handful of games.
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>>2899180
>Star Wars Ep I Racer

This has to be my favorite racing game still or at least tied with F-Zero GX. Never did play the Dreamcast version or the sequel, how were those?
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Personally I've always loved the N64. With games like Kirby, Yoshi and even GoldenEye and I feel like it was a much more fun, accessible console that wasn't so alienating towards the female playerbase. xD
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>>2899382
Honestly there are probably more good N64 games than PS1 games. Which is pretty sad considering the PS1 had over six times as many games made for it.
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N64 was the shit, but I was in elementary school during the fifth gen so I can't really speak objectively. I honestly don't know if I would have preferred N64 or PS1 had I been in high school at the time. N64-era Nintendo really helped shape my taste in gaming.
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>>2898003
SNES > N64 > Wii U > NES > GameCube > Wii
ftfy
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Deny it all you want, but N64 had smash, which was a huge gateway for many people into nintendo

You got smash because you saw MArio on the cover, or link, or pikachu, or samus if you were one of those cool kids.

Everyone else you didnt know? You learned about from smash. Ness? Who the hell even knew ness at the time? Nobody bought EB and it sold like shit. Yet smash helped sell his name. Same for melee and the fire emblem people. People didnt know or care about fire emblem, but they knew the names MArth and Roy.
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>>2899485
>Wii at the bottom

Motion controls add far more then the Wii-U gamepad did, and the games that utilize it well were amazing. The Wii also has a library. The Wii-U has a handful.

>SNES > Gamecube > Wii > Wii U > N64 > NES
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>>2899489

Nintendo doesn't only make games for the western public, Ness was well known in Japan, same as Fire Emblem.
Also the logic behind Ness being on Smash, other than it's a Nintendo protagonist, is that he is technically a HAL Labs character, it isn't too weird to see why he was included.

Also I got Smash because of this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JW9BCGPCg0
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My heart:
N64=Gamecube>SNES>Wii U>Wii>NES

My brain:
SNES>NES>Gamecube>N64>Wii U>Wii
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>>2898042
The existence of TTYD, Eternal Darkness, Chibi robo, Nightfire and Symphonia automatically makes it better then the 64.

Only good thing the 64 has that isnt overplayed is Mischief makers
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>>2899396
higher framerate and overall less clunky
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>>2899506
>TTYD

The original is better

TTYD is a complete slog
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>>2899504
Is it wrong I love them all?

If I had to choose though.. in order, because

SNES
>Tales of Phantasia (If SFC counts)
>Super Metroid
>Earthbound
>Mega man X2
>Super Castlevania IV

Gamecube
>Chibi Robo
>Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
>Baiten Kaitos
>007 Nightfire
>Gotcha Force

Wii
>No More Heroes
>Punchout!!!
>De blob
>Xenoblade
>Metroid prime Trilogy

N64
>Mischief Makers
>Goldeneye
>Paper Mario
>Majora
>Starfox 54

Wii U:
>Tropical freeze
>Smash
>Wonderful 101
>Hyrule Warriors
>Splatoon

NES
>Kid Icarus
>Metroid
>Crystalis
>Super Mario bros 3
>Castlevania 3
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>>2899506
Plus Prime, F-Zero GX, best version of SCII, Melee, Fire Emblem, Pikmin, etc.
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>>2899521
TTYD has better locales and story pacing. The original is good yes, but its locations are pretty mediocre and the adventure is jsut to straight forward.

>Mario go collect these cards and save peach
>K

Vs.

>Mario Peach is missing, use this map, go slay a fucking dragon, settle a dispute war between races, because wrestling champion extraordinaire, save the village from the evil curse, Sail to the seven seas and befriend the dread pirate captain, Solve a murder mystery aboard a 3 day express to ritzville, launch yourself out of a cannon at the goddamn moon, beat the shit out of alien invaders, and stop them from reawakening a 1000 year old demon witch queen.

Call to adventure is so much stronger, And really? Slog? You're calling tTTYD a slog when Jr. Koopa exists in the original?

Get your nostalgia bias out of here. I love 1 dearly, but even I can admit 2 improves everything in the best way possible.
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>>2899534
>Is it wrong I love them all?

Not at all. The only Nintendo system I think could be labeled objectively "meh" is the Wii, but even that had its gems.
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>>2899539
>Mario, Peach is missing. Fight ninja turtles in a castle, find a buried temple in the middle of a desert, travel to a haunted house and fight a ghost eating monster by destroying his heart, go inside a world of toys, trek through a jungle to find a way into a volcano, enter a giant garden where a cloud monster controls the weather, solve a murder mystery in a snowy village, and go to a palace of illusions, walk along a path of stars, take a spaceship to a giant floating castle, and find a way to defeat your now invincible greatest enemy.

Maybe you should describe the first game in more detail.
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So... What color did people prefer their consoles in? I was an Ice Blue man myself.
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>>2899613
My friends and I all had a rainbow of controllers, but no one I knew had the actual system in anything but black. Looking back I think I would have gone with green if I had a choice.
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>>2899497
The underpowered cheap hardware hurt the Wii more than its poor motion controls could make up for. Prior to the motion upgrade late in its lifetime developers couldn't reliably detect much besides the famous waggle, and the imprecise pointer functionality which is completely dependent on constant IR feedback to pinpoint its onscreen location is susceptible to near complete interference just from sunlight.

I'm not saying the Wii U's tablet brought much radically new to the table in comparison, but on the other hand it already has a better library of high quality video games, which in the end matters a whole lot more for me than gimmick utilization.
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>>2899485
>Wii U that high
Horrible taste. Please gas yourself.
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am I the only one who likes the first smash best?
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>>2899831
I like it better then melee. But I think I like newest best because I like tons of the additions we've got.

64 is a solid second though.
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>>2897657
>what does this mean?
This is a sign of the times. 4chan truly has changed.
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>>2899725

Geez dude, calm down. Why are you so angry about someone's opinion? "Gas yourself"? Isn't that a little extreme? Holy shit. You are a bad person. You must've had a bad childhood...
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>>2899485

You mean

GameCube > SNES > Wii > N64 > Wii U > NES
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>>2900484
GameCube is a n64 2.0, with less influential 1st party

No way it's the best Nintendo console
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>>2900565
>good Mario games
>good Wario games
>good Zelda games
>good Metroid games
>good F-Zero game
>good Starfox games
>good Kirby game
>good Pokemon games
>new IP's like Pikmin and Chibi Robo

How does it not have a strong 1st party line-up that surpasses N64's, again?
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>>2900565
GameCube got much better third part support though. Capcom and Sega's output on the GameCube alone is enough to make it a much better machine than the N64.
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