>>2889963 Phantasy Star for me. It has better, more interesting themes and settings, and I like how there's a consistent plotline that has an immensely satisfying end. Final Fantasy has great gameplay ideas in some games, but it's like it's trying too hard when it comes to setting and plot. Phantasy Star has an understated, effortless style of pulling stuff that FF beats you over the head over and over in an attempt to manipulate you into caring about the plot. FF is good too, but PS is better for me.
>>2889995 No reason to be a little shit. They're not all gems.
>>2889984 4 is the best one by far and the biggest one I'd recommend. Aside from that I'd avoid 3, 2 is okay, 1 is pretty dated. If you're going to play 1 get a translation patch instead of playing the American version since the sound is seven shades of fucked there.
>>2889984 Phantasy Star (the SMS Power! translation. Make sure your emulator has FM sound enabled.)
(you could play the "Phantasy Star Gaiden" translated for the game gear if you REALLY want more of Phantasy Star 1's setting, but honestly it's kind of shit. I'd skip it.)
Phantasy Star II (Naflign re-translation)
Phantasy Star III (skipable, it's an unfinished game made by a then-new team of developers. If you really liked 1 and 2 and want some more setup for IV, play III. Whatever you could find on romhacking.net for it might improve the experience)
(you could play "Phantasy Star Adventure" translated for the Game Gear, it's like 20 minutes long and it's pretty meh. I'd skip it.)
>>2890001 >1 is pretty dated Bullshit. Name a better old school first person dungeon crawler. You're either into that genre or you're not, but that's like saying SMB is pretty dated because it's in 2D.
>>2890376 >Is IV really as good as people say? I need a new jrpg to get into for the new year. It's up there with Chrono Trigger as one of the best JRPGs of its generation. Earlier Phantasy Stars are still good but often hard to get into because they're pretty archaic, but IV still holds up if you're only used to more modern gameplay. Try it out and go in unspoiled, it's great and while playing earlier games lets you get references and enjoy it a bit more, it's not necessary at all.
>>2890373 Flying to the moon is certainly not "flying to other PLANETS".
>>2890376 1 is a first person dungeon crawler a la Megami Tensei, 2 is pretty much 1 with another perspective. They're really fun if you're into that kind of stuff, if you only want a light hearted, plot centered adventure like most entry level jrpgs from snes play 4 and you wouldn't regret it. 3 had some interesting ideas but a poor execution.
>>2890865 Yes. But being that 2 was UNPLAYBLE should say a lot. I dragged my ass through it long enough to get to the recorder in the biolab. That only took like 10 hours of awful.
I started the series with 4 because it was the only one I could find in my area and I grew up in the era of blockbuster rentals and very limited carts for sale. It set the bar very high for me. Went back and played 1 as soon as PC Emulation was a thing and it held up to 4. The others.. just horrible.
However, I almost never replay any FF games, preferring to just listen to the soundtrack or remixes instead. (Nobuo is a goddamned beast of a composer).
The only exception to this is the very first FF, which I do replay every so often. It may even be my favorite of them all. FFIV is another which is quick and fun.
But I replay all of the retro PS titles at various times each year, and am still going strong in PSO+ to this day.
I think it boils down to the fact that PS games are short and sweet and full of memorable tunes, like the first FF. The later games in the FF series get progressively longer and more involved. I'm just looking for something less complicated, I suppose.
>>2889963 That's a bit of an unfair comparison. FF has far more entries and therefore more good entries. But nothing Square have ever done topped PS4. PS1 also beats out all other 80's RPGs if you ask me.
As someone who holds the Phantasy Star series and it's lore in high regard, I would recomend you to play PSIII if you like the other games. The music, lore, and wordlbuilding makes it worth to get through. It's also a very sad game overall.
FF6 fundamentally elevated what we could consider and expect from a RPG. Right from the start of the game you can see fundamentally different design and creative styles and intentions. Even just comparing the first few tracks for each game's OST says a lot about their design.
Does FF6 play better than PS4? That's a debate of a different sort. There's no denying that PS4 plays "snappier" than FF6, even if it does have that obnoxious dirt-bike noise at the start of every battle. This is where grognards can debate whether "PS4 is more hardcore than FF6" for eternity.
>>2893537 I gave my answer here >>2893493 Basically the game turns any uniqueness out of the window a bit into the game when you can equip espers and everyone and their mother can suddenly start casting all kinds of magic.
FF 1,3,4,5,9 and to some extent 10 if you don't overgrind/gonna do endgame stuff, x-2 and 12(international) all have uniquness to their characters, either they're a set job (thief, warrior, monk, white mage) or they can switch jobs.
6,7 and 8 aren't bad games, but they lose a lot of their charm when the party members you have don't matter at all save for limit breaks, in 6 it doesn't matter at all almost and basically boils down to which sprite you like the most.
Phantasy Star 4 is great in the sense that people are stuck with their job/class, Chaz is the Allround (Fighter and good spells) Gryz is the warrior, Hahn is defensive/offensive spellcaster, Alys is your cleave damage, Rune is your offensive magic nuker, Rika is you battle healer, Wren is your big cleave damage dealer, Rika is your tanky support, Raja is your superhealer, And Kyra is also a good allround fighter with some good spells
Comparing PS4 to FF6 is quite stupid, since they're nothing alike.
>>2894261 A proper sequel wouldn't even need to be a continuation of the other games' plot, it could even be set in another star system like Online. I just wish I could've seen all their experience as game devs, writers, and artists culminate one more time.
>>2890008 >release order >phantasy star You fucking blockhead, everyone who knows anything about PS knows you avoid III like the fucking plague.
>>2889972 Best order to play is I, II then IV. III is ok, but not worth playing. IV is the best, but there's things about it that make playing the others important--you'll appreciate IV a lot more with those under your belt.
>>2894792 >>2894797 >Rieko Kodama does say that after 4, there was some talk about a story for 5, with concepts involving questions like "are there gods in the PS universe?", "is the dark force really evil, and the light force really good?", and "What is the light force in the world that opposes Dark Force? Is it justice?". Could have been neat.
>>2895417 >Where can I start? Any of them released before 2000 :^) IX is something of a 3D swansong to the earlier 2D games in a Western high fantasy setting, so having a frame of reference will help you appreciate it better. X and XII are genuinely significant departures from the formula. I think they're great, but many find fault.
>Are the games connected too? The main series games share thematic elements and gameplay mechanics, but that's all. There are a few spin-offs from VII, X, XII, and XIII which share the same respective worlds.
>>2896814 They're connected by the world they take place in, so there are plenty of recurring themes, motifs, beasts, etc. and some things that happen in previous games could influence how the future (the next games) are. It's not as if it's a pure anthology video game RPG series. To say they're not connected at all is retarded.
also all this shit http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Inter-Game_Connections
>>2896853 >They're connected by the world they take place in That being a different world each game. That page you posted is nothing but fanwank by a bunch of forum posters. Pure speculation that has been deemed by the wiki maintainers to be not worth allowing on the actual wiki.
Holy fucking shit, get it together and find some better straws to grasp at because that shit ain't gonna convince anyone.
>>2896863 A few games take place in different worlds, but most of them seem to take place at different times. Some of it is very speculative, but dismissing it as all as fanwank is just as retarded as your other posts.
>>2893625 I guess they wanted a compromise between FFIV's fixed jobs (which made a lot of characters worthless) and FFV's extreme customization and equalization of characters (which erased uniqueness but made the gameplay a lot funnier imo)
>>2896887 Actually, Dissidia blew that theory all to hell.
Every Final Fantasy is in a different dimension, hence some recurring themes (crystals, chocobos, moogles, Cid) and the only "real" direct connection is that there is only one Gilgamesh, who is hopping through Final Fantasy titles, but otherwise there's more than one of everything.
It even explained the differences between ports as being in the same dimension but a different reality. All of Dissidia takes place on an alternate version of FF1's world, in FF1's dimension.
Fans asked, Dissidia answers. That's how they're all connected, and that's also why it doesn't matter in the slightest.
>>2893572 Damn that song is great. It's powerful, threatening, alluring, and really catchy. It makes you want to dig right into the game and see how far it can push you. The arranged version is good, too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGBWECEEEII
>>2901298 In story it's not the best, but the mechanics were by far one of the best among 16 bit FF games. The class system personally made that game for me. And it's a game that I feel really rewards for going out of your way for grinding as opposed for just leveling you up.
>>2899152 I'd give Phantasy Star a lot of credit for being consistent, and creating a cohesive universe an storyline. But I'd say later Final Fantasy, when it broke away from its more traditional themes and started being ridiculous, is quite enjoyable if you don't take it seriously.
>>2901789 Phantasy Star was never on the Playstation. When you see the terms 'PS1, PS2, PS3' and 'PS4' in a Phantasy Star thread you can be sure it doesn't stand for Playstation.
And PSO is drastically different from the classic Phantasy Star series which had it's final entry on the Mega Drive in 1993. It's rather difficult to compare the PSO spinoff series to the classics because they're so different. They're both good, I'll say that much.
>>2906940 Still one of the most balanced online RPGs ever created, and not saturated with empty inflative content
"LOL LOOK AT OUR WOW-CLONE WITH 20 CLASSES 60 RACES 750 SKILLS 5400 ABILITIES AND 86000 WEAPONS AND 620000 ITEMS YOU BETTER HAVE A FLOWCHART FOR COMBAT BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED IT". Yeah, fuck you, I'll take my quality over quantity and love it.
>>2906883 Oh yeah, the reimaginings and roms-on-a-disk are a thing. I honestly forgot. Perhaps I blanked the reimaginings from my memory because they're so traumatically shit. Forgetting about the collection was a bit of a mistake though, from what I hear it's actually a pretty decent way to play 2, 3 and 4.
>>2906960 Implying I support wow-clones for some reason? To be blunt, I believe the rise in popularity of MMOs are the worst thing to happen to the gaming industry with pre-ordering being a close 2nd and competitive gaming streams being 3rd.
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