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Final Fantasy Remnants

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Anyone remember playing this BYOND fangame of Final Fantasy 4/2 as a multiplayer rpg on here?

byond://remnants.redirectme.net:777

It's back.

https://warosu.org/vr/thread/1706789 An old thread for a refresher and a screenshot as a reminder.

It got taken down last time for copyright claims by square enix, despite it not being hosted officially, try to do the host a favor and not spill spaghetti everywhere.
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>>2859314
>redirectme.net
LOOOOOL nice try
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>>2859318
That's the address you put in the BYOND client.

Are you retarded.
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>>2859324
Cute. I'm still not downloading that fucking virus
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>>2859326
Delete win32 while you're at it.
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I said it before, I'll say it again. Are there more than 10 people playing this or not? I've played every previous iteration of this game on and off for some time and it really doesn't work without a decent population, so you can always get a party together.
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>>2859516
Part of my point of this thread was seeing if enough people remembered to wanna play again.

But we have retards like >>2859318 who are computer illiterate today.
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>>2859913
Well back when I first started playing with 4chan we essentially made up 60% of the server, but that was with /v/ like 6 years ago, I'm not sure we even have that kind of viewership on /vr/ to be frank.

Should the playerbase maintain a peak of around 40-50 I'd join, and probably make daily threads like I used to. Until then, goodluck. I hope it pans out.

Have some sexy leg for the effort.
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>>2859314
Too late for me tonight. I have work tomorrow.

God, I miss being a NEET.
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>>2859927
It's not as gratuitous as it used to be. There's lot of new classes and whatnot though.

I was leveling a samurai with some people just now, and there's some post-content once you do the main game's dungeons.

I can't promise the glory days though, BYOND lost the majority of the JRPG fangame community when Squeenix hammered down.
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I actually made a thread about this game like a month and a half back. I might try to play during Christmas break from uni. Glad you reminded me of this game, OP. I hope more people show up.
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I would get into this, but what promise do we have that Squeenix won't shut it down yet again?
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Im interested at least, but Im mainly wondering about >>2861068
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>>2859314
I played it and loved it. /vr/ had its own chat that made forming parties easy. I've been trying it ever now and then and it just wouldn't work. It's worked a couple times, but nobody else was there so there wasn't really a point.

If we can rebuild a community here again, that'd be wonderful!
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>>2861068
>>2861087
None, unfortunately.

To be honest their means of shutting it down are lackluster as I don't think BYOND can shutdown private games from being hosted.
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Good times. Teaming up against Gilgamesh for custom sprites and finding what moves won't make him wipe the party, grinding cactuars (and that one lucky guy that got the cactus jack drop), and all around easygoing rpg action.

I don't remember names of who I played with, but we had a 2hu bucket loli, Waluigi, and pic related.
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>>2861326
Also to clarify. I don't think it was Squeenix that shut them down, it was an internal issue and some drama that caused the shutdown. This is the exact same server from a year ago so if you unlocked stuff from then, you should have it now.
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>>2862086
fun meta until tail grinding. lame
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>>2861326
>>2862168
Let's see if I can remember this correctly.

Originally the game was called Final Fantasy Legacy and that game was sent a C&D from Squeenix, forcing it to shut down sometime in... 2009 or 2010. Somewhere around there.

Final Fantasy Remnants arrived somewhere around 2014 and was very popular with /vr/. I would say better than half of the playerbase had some ties to /vr/ and for better or worse introduced some of the other playerbase to /vr/. While the majority of the gameworld was relatively peaceful, there was some drama that occurred, as is bound to happen in any community-based game such as this.

Long story short, a certain player was being kind of a douche, got butthurt when people retaliated against him, and decided to threaten the game owner with bringing the game to the attention of Squeenix. Having already faced one C&D, the owner was reasonably afraid of the threat and sent the game underground, killing off a vast majority of the playerbase.

Now the game has returned, so the likely assumption is that a certain troublesome player has moved on and that the game is safe from the litigious grasp of Square Enix.
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>>2862210
It could use that boost of players.

This is a fun game to ditz around on.

My main character is Avis. He's a 99 Paladin with a custom sprite meant to look like the Warrior of Light. I'm trying to eventually get him into a shrine party to hunt down some gear upgrades.
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>>2862210
Slight correction, the player that was kicking up a fuss was a "dev" for lack of a better word, he wanted to take al the game assets and make his own fork so-to-speak and the then owner Andrew wasn't having it and told the community.

Community then ripped the piss out of that guys trailer and called him a loser, etc and he went nuclear and actually reported FFL. As far as I'm aware they never received a C&D formally but they made it private when ownership changed hands just to be safe.
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>login to the game
>nobody around
>uninstall byond

Seems laggy as fuck for some reason to.
Well it was worth a try anyways.
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>>2862332
Well it's kinda fuck o' clock and the game's more active in the afternoon and evening.
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I'd be down for a party if anyone was around.
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I gave this a couple hours of play and i have to say its pretty interesting. Very fun to do while playing something else on emulator. First you have to wait for someone to log in at your level then just walk up to them and hit the talk button while facing them. This will ask them to invite you.

Whoever is party leader gets to move the party in a line while progressing to the next boss. They made the game linear but the leveling, getting new skills and equipment to make the turn based combat better is enjoyable.
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>>2865984
A few additional notes from a long time player. You can influence your stat growth by equipping certain accessories while levelling and they work like EV's in Pokemon. You can force yourself to get +however much strength at max level which is quite cool.

Furthermore there are side bosses scattered throughout the game, one of which allows you to unlock a new job (for new game+), another one lets you change your sprite entirely and upload a custom one.

There are other hidden things, jus for fun that have nothing to do with 4 but it was very fun unravelling all of them with friends.
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>>2866107
>You can influence your stat growth by equipping certain accessories
See, now last time I played it was changed to a Byond menu option to select your boosted stat growth instead of the items. Was that reverted back?
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>>2866123
Oh no, very likely my info is just outdated. I only briefly played the last incarnation due to lack of players.

I remember you buying the accessories from Fabul castle and you being able to check your stat growth by talking to the old man in a cave to the north. He would also tell you how many battles you've run from and pinktails you've found.

To be frank if they made it into its own menu that'd be cooler, so long as they don't scrap the system.
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The last time the game went down was because of some manlet dipshit cosplaying Sabin. The game got a C&D from Square and had to move locations. Here's a question - is there even an active staff or development team there? When I played there were usually staff members that could answer questions
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>>2862210
>>2862293
These are separate instances completely. This game has an issue with inviting entitled buttblasted babies, for some reason. If it's not one person bitching because they didn't get their way, it's another. The sperglord from last time was actively posting threads on /vr/ about his victory in taking down the game. He used a Yoshi sprite haha and a Sabin sprite and was a massively irritating douche.
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>>2866268
The only post I've genuinely considered reporting in this thread is yours. Everyone else has been rather polite and on-topic.

Relax and have a robot.
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Huh, this seems pretty neat, actually. I'll just it out.
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>>2859326
>>2859318
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>that Mega Man themed party
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>>2866268
This thread very much is viral by the creator of the game but i gave it a try and i would love if a handful of people started from scratch like me. Then we can have some parties progressing through the game.
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>>2866863
I want to play it but since it's privately listed there are barely going to be any new players, that means even if 5 of us decide to start right now eventually somebody is going to play when others are offline and then the rest play catch-up.

It needs to be publicly listed to even hope to stand a chance, or have the link passed round a hell of a lot more.
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>>2866314
This anon.

Fuck it, downloading now. What's the protocol here?
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>>2866948
>https://warosu.org/vr/thread/1706789
Aaaaand the stupid site won't send me the email. Waste of time apparently.
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>>2867103
What do you need sent to you via e-mail? Just download BYOND and access the server.
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>>2867154
You need a BYOND account.......
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>>2859314
I miss playing this with you guys like mad in 2014
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What is everyone's favorite class? I like Red Mage quite a bit.
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>>2868191
Young Caller is by far the best, it was a little sad unlocking the other classes because they were all worse.

You have high MP, access to decent white magic, including teleport, you get the summon Sylph which not only does AoE damage but drains and heals your entire party, usually with amazing efficiency. You get black magic up to an ok point, the best combo being Stop+twister which is great for clearing out dragons.

In essence you're the best healer, who can also kill things in 1 or 2 hits in a crunch. A few fun alternate classes to play:

Dragoon - We made an all dragoon party years ago and by co-ordinating our jumps and item usage we beat every boss and extra boss.

Mechanic - At pretty much every stage in the game your bombs are stronger than equivalent black magic and cost no MP.

Blue mage - Healing the parties MP is really the best part of this job, but you also have a great stat spread which was nice for PvP for those who cared.

I think I finished Archi with every job, back when we played. I'm not certain if they've made new classes by now though. The most fun was when we did single job challenges though, all Bard was hilarious.
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>>2868214
so it's already a minmaxing overplayed to death shitfest? stopping my download right now
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I may just be dumb but I'm having trouble finding the spot to download this. Do I have to download/install a client then look for it or can I find it through the byond website?
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>>2868232
You download the Byond client from their website, and then once you launch it there should be a place under the games tab where you can type in: byond://remnants.redirectme.net:777

The game isn't publicly listed, so you just have to add in that link, only once though, once it's in there it gets added to a list.
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Well got it installed and played a bit. 7-8 other people were on, one was lvl 94 and the rest were lvl 99. If any more newish people start playing or if anyone starts new chars I'd be down to give this a shot.
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>>2868225
Usually staff members were willing to divulge information on good stat-building based on how they had developed the classes... So, yeah. There was one staff dude that would randomly get bored and join parties and just wreck everything but I don't remember who it was, he was usually the one giving that information out.
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How much of this can be solo'd / when do you really start needing a party?
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>>2868487
You can solo the whole game based on your class, youll need to grind a bit though.

At certain times of the day there is a good bit of people on, just talk in w-say till people start appearing then ask who wants to party.

To see who is online click the social tab and click Player Details.
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>>2868307
I've been trying but it won't send the registration email and all I've gotten is "HURR DURR WUT R U REGSTRG FUR?"
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>>2868314
Sounds like Szenkar to me. He was a pretty cool guy and was typically the bridge between the players and Holy Knight, the Admin.
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>>2869292
>>2868314
For as long as this guy played I don't think I ever saw him on anything other than Paladin.
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>>2869302
He changed it up now and then. I remember seeing him with a sword master and an alchemist but generally you're right.
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>>2869292
>>2869302
Yeah, that's him. I know he used basically an Orlandu class, he would kill everything with Holy Explosion

Do any of those guys even show up anymore?
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>>2869921
Not from the sounds of it, I can't say for sure since I haven't been on in some time. I'm waiting for the playerbase to pick up a little first.
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I remember playing this last year as a dragoon with ye guys. Good craic and everyone in vr chat was sound out, ended up dropping out since I wouldnt be able to get on that often. But I would give it another go again if you need someone else on.
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I really really want to like this, but it just seems really slow trying to play solo. Is there a starter class that will be able to nuke a screen of enemies somewhat early on?
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>>2870471
Dark Knight if I remember could do that
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join in
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I would love to play it with you guys.
I don't have my good computer until the 4th of January ;_;
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>>2870569
This has almost no requirements, if you can run windows pinball I'd say you're good.

>>2870471
Engineer, if they still have it is pretty great for that and has good stat values. You'll need to spend your money on healing items mainly though.
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>>2870575
I am on a shitty ACER Iconia tab with Lubuntu on it so that I can browse some 4chan on a shitty connection while I am at my folks' place during the holidays.
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who else is coming on, there is 3 people at the moment
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>>2870594
Im already in
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>>2870605
Mudzap?
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>>2870612
yup
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>>2870735
whos this guy
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>>2870740
that's the guy that got the game taken down last time because he did something to piss off some people, got banned and reported the game to square
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>>2868214
>played a White Mage
>was rendered useless in every party I joined thanks to Blue Mages and Bards
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>>2859927
>>2859927

Those were great times. I remember one mod got assblasted by the >quoting. Good times.
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Oh wow, it really has been a year since the last thread on /vr/ about this. I can't believe how fast time flies.

How many people are usually playing? I'm only on at odd hours now due to work.
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I would play if I could register. They're not sending the god damn registration email.
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>>2872274
You still haven't gotten an email? BYOND doesn't take that long.
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>>2872274
>>2872598
I never got mine either. The most I got from anyone was "LOL ur a fucking idiot just download BYOND and click play"
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>>2873303
>>2872274

check your spam mail
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>>2869921
>Orlandu class

Okay, you have my attention. Lay down the details famslice.
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>>2873309
it's not a class you saw very often because I think the unlock required defeating one of the superbosses. The class basically had Orlandu's moveset from FFT though and I swear I saw General Leo's Shock too
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/vg/ here coming from /ffg/, this sounds interesting.

I think if I brought this to /ffg/'s attention some of them might at least be interested, if that's fine, or should I leave it alone? I swear we're not the ERPing faggots from /xivg/, some of us rediscovered XI because of free login campaigns and have been playing semi-seriously since then.
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>>2873418
I'd still love to try it. How does it look? Is there a way I can find that out besides going through the game? I have to admit I'm interested...
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>>2872274
If you are using hotmail certain emails wont even get to the spam folder.
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>>2873449
well like I said, he was killing everything. the boss with the unlock is really hard though
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Merry Christmas, /ffr/!
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Why the hell am I being forced to redownload all of the game assets every time I log in?
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>>2875216
It's an issue with the BYOND cache, it's a piece of shit. It always has been. Not much can be done unless it's reprogrammed from the ground up, and since BYOND's admins are idiots, it'll probably never get fixed. They should bring on developers from popular games...
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>>2875309
Idiots is beyond an understatement. They pulled a RP game from the hub because of an accusation that someone was grooming kids, an accusation from a legitimate pedo who goes by the key GyroGun. They also allow doxxing, ddosing, spamming, and all kinds of other bullshit and refuse to listen to any form of criticism.

The admins need an old-fashioned lynch mob at their doors.
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>>2873304
Was the first thing I did.
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>>2875696
Did you try just making a new gmail account to register a BYOND account with?
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>>2875798
No. I tried using my regular AIM account.
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>>2875802
So... Were you even going to try my suggestion, or just flat-out reject it? I practically spoonfed you a solution here and if you can't even figure that out then I definitely wouldn't want you shitting up the game.
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So for those of you who haven't noticed yet, /ffg/ in /vg/ appears to have fallen in love with this game. The number of players have been slowly rising so now might be a good time to get into this.
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>>2876115
Ya they are filling it up pretty quick.
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>>2875808
What suggestion? You asked a question and I answered. Not my fault BYOND doesn't know how to properly manage their mail servers.
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>>2876115
Not sure how that's possible when it won't send registration emails and the only people who admit it's a problem are sperglords like >>2875808 who offer no solution and get butthurt about it.
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>>2876484
well im not sure it could be that byond is shitty. try a differnt email service or just keep trying, sorry if its not working
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>>2876484
It does send registration emails - other people are getting them, it's just you that isn't. Sucks to be you.
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>>2876554
>Other people are getting them

Prove it. Pretty sure this is one of those retarded memes like /b/'s stupid fingerboxes and dumb ass frogs.
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/ffg/ was kind enough to include a startup guide.
>>>/vg/126548471
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>>2873541
Gmail. Not in inbox, not in spam folder. It isn't sending the email.
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>>2877053
well im sorry to say it seems your fucked till you get the email, I cant think of any other solution
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Maybe someday, work will stop being flat-out ridiculous and allow me to come back to the game. Maybe I would be able to talk to everyone again, too. I don't get to talk to HK anymore, really. I can't promise anything, but we'll see what the future holds - the best part of the game is seeing what players do with what you've designed.
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>>2877410
Hi Szen.
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I'll be playing in a few minutes, afk for a moment. Name's bumlie and I'm a new character farming outside of Baron, if anyone new wants to party up.
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Oi vey, first time in /vr/

It's nice
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>>2873445
So long as /ffg/ isn't full of faggots who will shit up the server, go for it. We need the players.
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>>2877917
>>2873445
Never mind, I just read the thread.
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Played this before.
It got very boring, very quickly, because all you did was follow the path of FFIV with absolutely no plot what-so-ever, then stop in the desert and grind on Cactaurs for days, then head to the moon and kill Zeromus.

Basically, worse than Korean MMOs
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>>2877927
yeah the game tends to end up more about community and camaraderie. there's less to min/max but everyone likes to find their favorite class and get all the best stuff. the equip list has some pretty nice looking gear. the last time the game had a bunch of players, updates came pretty quick
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>>2877927
It's one of the make your own fun kind of games, years ago I used to host hide-and-seek, trivia quizzes and PvP tournaments. The prizes I offered were pretty good as well.

You definitely need to talk to people or the experience will be ass.
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Anyone know what tail a Samurai would use? Is it Moonsilk, or Gladius?
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>>2878714
all of them
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>>2878714
The only tail Samurai uses is the Pink Tail for Adamant armor, like every class.

Samurai uses katanas and its best weapon is dropped by Breaths in the Lunar Core.
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So Hero, Devout, and Elemental are the new classes

Any idea where to get?
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So what's the best class for solo operations?
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>>2878714
Knives (Gladius) are for dancer, ninjaknives (Moonsilk) are for ninjas. Samurai uses katanas (Mutso no Kami, you can't get Daidouji I guess)
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>>2878943
bad game
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>>2878894
red mage. you get some white/black spells for pinpointing weaknesses and patching yourself up, and you get access to magic blade at level 35. runic can also save your ass. their gear options are also very, very good. by the end of the game you'll be having more trouble killing stuff unless you build yourself to specialize in damage, but whatever you try to specialize toward has gear for you to help you more.
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>>2879675
Aw crap, it had to be the literal fedoracore class
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>>2871347
Rydia best Rydia
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I remember making a custom sprite that had my cool character in a magitek machine. Custom animations for everything, even melee attacks and ranged attacks. I also had fully working sky armor.

I was a big junkie on that kind of scene, but that was long before, and times have sadly changed.
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Any 99s want to run through Shrine at some point? I really need the chests from it and save points.
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People still play this literal shit?
I am amazed.
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>>2881140
salty ff6 fanboy, please
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>>2881195
You don't even know how wrong you are
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>try to connect
>connection failed

I think it's dead Jim.
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>>2881337
I'm in along with 17 other people.
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>>2881343

How do you connect? I try the link above, but it fails every time.
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>>2881814
I'm afraid you've been banned, then.
Is what I'd like to say, but I have no clue.
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>>2881814
>>2881823
BYOND tells you if you've been banned though, whether it's through IP, hardware ID or account
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Don't forget to log into the client with your byond account, just being logged into the website won't cut it.
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ded game
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Anyone know where to unlock Hero?
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>>2884498
in ze shrine of dooooom
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>>2884498
hero's an OK class at endgame. just wish it did more damage.
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How do you unlock the Devout class?
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>>2884954
Talk to the guy who resets your stats north of Damcyan. I don't know how many kills you're supposed to have but I know that he's the one that gives it to you.

Only classes I don't know how to unlock are Fiend and Hero.
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>>2885290
Thanks.

To return the favor, Fiend is unlocked by beating the 4 fiends + Golbez redux and I think Hero is unlocked by beating Archimus.

I tried the 4 fiends redux fight but Golbez kicked our shit around quite a few times. I don't even know what he's weak against.
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>>2884806
For as difficult as it is to get the Meteor spell, it should be stronger than it is
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Where do you get the summons? Only have Chocobo
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>>2886850
Most are through leveling... Goblin, Bomb, Cockatrice, Mind Flayer and Jumbo Cactaur are rare drops. Asura you get through the story, Leviathan and Bahamut are optional bosses.
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>>2886864
Thanks anon
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>>2886864
>Asura you get through the story
>Remnants
>Story
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What's up with item grabbing? Am I getting them or not?
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>>2885318
its 1000 battles with any character that unlocks devout.

neat class
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>>2886887
That's the street term for "you can't miss it"
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Grinded green, yellow and pink tail today.
Not sure if lucky or crazy.
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>>2887042
in general, the loot goes to the person that defeated the monster that dropped it. If loot is...
Greyed out - you didn't get the item, someone else in the party did
White - you got the item
Yellow - this only occurs when someone who obtained the item passes it, which gives the whole party the opportunity to take it. only one person can get it though. If an item is yellow you can take it by hitting confirm twice. if you want to pass, you hit confirm, arrow over to pass, and hit confirm again
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is there a wiki / main site?
I got too many questions about stats and classes, and differences between the original game (and after years) and this.

I read the pastebin ones and stuff.
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>>2888005
there is a FAQ in the game. check the social tab. It answers some questions, but there is no wiki that I'm aware of
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new classes fucking when
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>>2890276
never
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>>2866250
He was a douche, and that's why the community condemned him. He was also my friend and showed me screen shots the day he was banned. He made some type of distasteful joke a dev found offensive and perm muted him. He took it up with the owner who threatened to ban him for questioning the situations permanence. My douche FFR friend then said something like"If you banned me for questioning something out of game in pager, I'd report this game to SE legal. If you banned me for my in game actions, I'd leave in peace." The community of course immediately went full butt hurt over the words Square Enix and completely ignored the context of the threat being reasonable because douche Yoshi was usually unreasonable. It's easy to forget that he was a douche in the chat, but still spent 50+ hours helping players beat bosses they couldn't and unlock things they couldn't and never wanted anything in return from me or the others he helped. As far as I an see, the game survived the entire time. I played it on and off the past year on the private server. It's pretty obvious douche Yoshi didn't end the world for being unreasonably banned.
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>>2895527
>He made some type of distasteful joke a dev found offensive and perm muted him.
Do you or anyone else remember what he said?
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>>2895581
Yoshis abort there young for self defense. It was in a joke form. Sven perm muted for it. Dhythos was an autistic guy, like Sheldon Cooper without the geniusness. Tries to tell a joke. Perm muted. Had to go talk to the harshest guy in FFR to appeal. A guy so harsh we called Sven the social side of FFR. Harsh guy was harsh, autistic guy literal on his view of right and wrong. Harsh guy labeled autistic guy the villain and we cheered. Source. Me. Have an autistic nephew that wouldn't have faired better as a player in that situation. Never thought I'd see anyone else agree Yoshi wasn't at fault thst day.
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>>2895601
He was a douche in chat, but he shouldn't have been banned or perm muted the way he was. He was muted because of a recent falling out with his former friend Svenkar, who of course muted him forever first chance he got post fall out. Douche Yoshi was accused of lying about something by Szenkar and offered to prove he wasn't lying. Szenkar refused to look at said proof, and douche Yoshi hated him from that day on and Szenkar no longer got along with Yoshi. The joke happened and violated some minor rulke and Szenkar rushed a perm ban knowing he'd have to take it up with HK. Yeah, that ended well.

All I know is when we came to FFR, we believed bosses like Zeromus couldn't be beaten. We got to 99, then bitched about balance and were stuck. We couldn't find most of the bonus classes. Douche Yoshi helped every one of us that asked, and iconed for every one of us that asked. Douche Yoshi refused to take money from me and another guy for icon work. Douche Yoshi helped us get classes, and learn how to beat those bosses while the smaller base of regulars refused to do it. We returned the favor by being pissed off that he was un relatable to chat with, and rallied at HKs word after the mess.
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>>2895601
>>2895612
We remember your constant takedown threads, Dhythos. Nobody gives a fuck. You fucked up by trying to take down a game people enjoyed. You openly admitted to making an distasteful abortion joke and somehow you expected not to be punished? Video games with public chat are not /b/.

The fact of the matter is, the game was fucking fantastic until you came along shitting it up. The playercount plummeted because of your incessant bitching, which more than outdoes any good you may have done by saying you spent hours helping players defeat bosses. Which, by the way, multiple parties had more than once complained that you had ditched out of things mid-fight when it looked like you were going to lose. It's retards like you that cause developers of half-decent timewaster games to leave, and it's why we don't receive updates in the game anymore. Fuck you.
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I installed BYOND and entered the address, but it fails to connect. Any help?
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>>2895714
You're a silly one, aren't you? Never saw him ditch on anyone. Player count fell because HK had the server go into hiding needlessly. Why don't you cry harder and reach harder still. It seems like you have something to say to Douche Yoshi. You should seek him out and resolve those feelings bro. Reach harder.
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>>2895714
Next time you want to address two separate posters as one, don't. You look stupid when you refuse to believe one other person could agree with me or that two players could support the less popular opinion in a game.
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>>2895717
they may have turned it off for now or changed the link. when these assholes all start arguing they all get paranoid.
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>>2895740
Working fine for me.
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>>2895885
Good, good.
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>log in
>no one around
well
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>>2896634
I'll hop on. What level are you?
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>>2896637
1
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>>2896643
Well you need a friend? What kind of BFF do you want?
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>>2896650
anything goes
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>>2896652
Get on and then I'll pick something out.
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>>2896656
I'm in baron at the moment, what should I do? (first time playing)
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>>2896657
Getting on. Buy and equip equipment and unlock your party.
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>>2895719
>>2895726
You're an easily-rustled one, aren't you? I don't know why you deny samefagging when you made the same typos in both posts. It's not difficult to modify a screenshot, either, and everyone knows that. So, please, for the sake of everyone else in the thread playing the game and enjoying themselves, kindly go away and don't come back, whether you're Dhythos or not, because you are being just as irritating. We are here to have fun with a game we enjoy. If you're able to just shut your mouth and have some fun without starting fires, by all means actually play the game like the rest of us.
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>>2896946
>>2895726
Enough. Stop bitching over 2014.

I say unban Dhythos and leave the perm mute. Let him endure infinite shaming in the game and leave it off the boards.
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>mute in-game MIDI
>crank up some Celtic Moon
Pretty damn comfy. I feel I should be in a party, though.
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>>2898415
All the battle music is normal and loops perfectly, you'll probably hear that more than anything else while you're playing
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>>2899643
>log in
>no one around
damn, I wish I discovered this stuff sooner. Yesterday I had a good time going from the octopus to the mombomb with a random party.
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>>2899643
Yeah, the battle music appears to be recorded from ingame, and the midi honestly isn't that bad for MIDI, I just felt like listening to Celtic Moon. IV Piano Collections too at some point, I imagine.
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>>2899890
It sounds like the real issue wasn't just taken to pager but occurd entirely on it. You're in charge of FFR and can do what you want. Banning him when he threatened the game seems right, but my curiousity is peeked. Is it true that you threatened to ban him for questioning the mute and he responded with the threat to your threat? You can be as wrong as you want, it's your game and a long time ago. Admitting what happened without bias and enforcing your decision indefinitely seems leader like. I'm a fan of transparency but feel free to ignore the post.
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Good god, how are people still playing this?
It's fucking trash, m8s
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>>2899850
>>2900543
People still play now and again, I think that most players are going back to school and work so you won't see as many going all day as you would on the holiday. "Peak hours" give you 20-30 players as far as I've seen, but there always seem to be enough people to form a party with.

It's co-op FF4 with secret classes and bosses. What more could you want? I think the limited amount of players makes it better at times, I played through the Tower of Zot as a White Mage with two SS's, which means we had no tank and elemental damage was MP intensive. But we made it, and it was fun because it was hard.
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>>2900543
antisocial detected
the game is actually fun and most of that fun comes from interacting with people
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>>2900560
The game is indeed fun. It's most fun when you're the greatest player to ever grace it.
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>>2900574
holy shit get a load of this guy
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>>2900575
Yes. Take a load from me. I'll give you my load. :)
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This is now a "Best of FFR" thread. We will discuss the greatest moments in the history of FFR starting from the beginning of FFL until now. Gogogo
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>>2900574
>>2900580
if you're not Brettwong, you are not the greatest player ever. If you are, though... Sup dude.
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>>2900819
How about that time a paladin soloed Clan Wars by casting Hold on everyone? Or the time Shu got pissed off in Clan Wars because ancient caller was overpowered, resulting in Andrew removing its white magic?

Shu used to get so pissed off when he'd lose in PvP. He went back to the game a couple years later and mellowed the fuck out, though.

Maybe the time when >implying reached such critical mass that Dolph muted the world chat and started banning people for it? I remember when he banned Gollyzilla and that dude was the guy making the threads on /v/ for the game a few years back.

I also remember there being a sagetrain, with two full parties of sages 10sage lmao!!1
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>>2901184
10sage lmao!!1
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>>2900819
SUPER FIGHTING ROBOTS
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>>2900819
That time when we beat the >invincible Gilgamesh.
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>>2900404
Being completely honest I don't recall if I did. Sounds like something I'd do however considering that if the reason for the mute was due to a poor joke about abortions he undoubtedly shouldn't be complaining to me when he was in a clear violation of rules. Whether or not that makes me "wrong" however is up to interpretation, but allow me to produce my pov on this subject how I believe and somewhat remember it going down.

Dhythos made a poor joke about abortions in a public chat. He attempted to reason with the GM that enforced the mute perhaps he didn't mean to cause offense. GM stuck with his guns cause obviously Dhythos is in the wrong here no way around that not to mention Dhythos has had issues in the past. Dhythos gets upset that GM won't listen and tries to talk to me about it at some point. I think it was a normal GM or perhaps it was szen that muted him I'm not sure which is the case but eventually it gets to my attention. I review the case to find that he made an abortion joke in wsay and is complaining that a GM is "unreasonable" in his response. However knowing Dhythos has been irritating the player base and staff and seeing as the joke was in clear violation of rules... He's wasting my time not only my time but the GM's time. I respond with a very abrupt and simple bother me with something like this again and I'll perma ban you (at least this seems to be case and I don't doubt I would say this due to my own irritation with this.) He retaliates with "If you do i'll tell SE!" with a person that can't obviously see that he's wasting peoples time and or thinks he can get away with making broad statements on a whim he deserved to be permanently banned afterwards since he can flare up with "Do it and I'll report your game!" at any moment. It's better for the community he get removed and in case SE would investigate it (unlikely) I moved the server to side on caution.

So you see whether or not I'm "right" is entirely up to interpretation.
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>>2900404
As a final thought on this too, I know parts of it was in pager mostly because he was obviously muted. Given the chance I'm sure the conversation would've been in game so whether or not the issue was in pager or in game to me is irrelevant. It only remember that it was a bit both starting in game with a mute and leaking to pager cause he couldn't speak in game.
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desu anyone that still cares about the situation with the shitstain in 2014 would do better discussing it in the game rather than here
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>>2901430
You used to be able to whisper GMs at least, while muted, unless that's changed.
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>>2900819
The all girl GM team under Franks leadership. Hell, most of Franks leadership was good times. The game advanced so much from what we knew before it.
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>>2901513
Maybe I have no clue atm it's been peaceful. lol
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>>2899890
>>2901417
>>2901430
>>2901698
>HK is here
panic
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>>2901210
You can have that many party members?
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>>2901742
nah, only 5
That screenshot is shenanigans
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Found a program that lets you assign keyboard keys to a game pad if using the keyboard is turning anyone off.

http://joytokey.net/en/download

Easy to set up, just load it up and press a button on your gamepad to see what the corresponding button is and assign the key you want to it.
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>>2900819
When that one group beat the Super Fiends before they got the nerf.
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>>2901883
joy to key sucks, use xpadder
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level 22 mature caller here and the only summons I have are chocobo and myst dragon am I missing something?
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>>2902150
Check the spell list under the info tab.

It'll give you all the information you need.
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>>2902150
Yeah, missing more exp. Grind you fucking scrub.
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>>2902201
The spell list, equip list, skill list, and FAQ will answer many, many questions that you have, actually. They don't have everything, though; the locations for blue magic spells, for example, aren't listed, nor are locations for equipment or methods of unlocking classes (mostly).

Also, the update list sometimes contains some information that's pertinent, make sure to check it out! Just make sure you're reading updates for the correct version of the game, the updates go back pretty far.
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>>2902150
How did you get chocobo?
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>>2902309
chocobo is a level one summon dummy
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>>2902320
Oh yeah. I was thinking it is one of those drops.
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>>2901210
haha i remember this
>SAGE EVERYTHING
>FINAL ZEROMUS
>RECALL ONLY
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>>2902406
Except that party isn't five sages, and recall spam would get you killed by Final Zeromus's pattern. Nice story though. 5 Sages win easy without only recall.
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If you're new to the game, don't forget to ask for help in the chat!
I'm pretty sure someone will help you on your way through.
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>>2902413
Or maybe he was just sharing a screenshot of his own while remembering about the sage party.
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>>2902050
>>2901883
I recommend antimicro for pad to keys, you can probably set analogs to near pure on off also with the sliders, whatever works for you I guess.

still deciding which class to use, for me its between ninja, mage twin, or sage/lunarian depending on magic and stuff. would blue, or dancer for evade tanking but locked class.
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Mid-late teens level Paladin. Antlion pushed my shit in. Gonna need a party. Should I just loiter around Baron and wait for someone to show up? Is hanging around Mist, Kaipo, or Damcyan better? I don't see many people around Damcyan. Also, someone posted a link in-game yesterday to a test server version of the game. Felt a bit more polished. Should I just abandon Remnants for that one?
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>>2878797
For Devout, gain all 20 stat points by killing 2000 enemies total (party's kills count) then talk to the old man in the cave north of Damcyan

Hero and Elemental require that you beat secret bosses in the Shrine on Mt. Ordeals, I think.
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>>2902770
HK is the coder for FFR and FF4 is his own project he has built from the ground-up. It's not yet complete and isn't up all the time, he just opens it up to players for testing purposes every now and then.
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>>2902639
this

pretty sure one of the sceenshot's party members was in that sage group with me. I remember lots of blizzard recalls before we got wiped
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>>2901417
If you really want to impress the masses, try hosting Another World once a week. Even if the 3.0 version didn't pan out, 2.0 would blow away a lot of people that never got to experience it. You'd win fans simply by allowing access to more of your work.
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You fuckers are gonna get me back into this after I got bored fairly quickly the last time I tried it.

Maybe I should try something other than White Mage next time. If it happens.
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>>2903553
Probably. White Mage is one of the most boring classes for most of the game.
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>>2904427
Not him, but what's a fun class
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>>2904597
Depends on what you find to be fun. Samurai's weapons are deceptively strong because their power is doubled when not using a shield, and they output a lot of damage. They are very good for grinding Cactuars. If you want to play a more fun support class, Bard is quite good, and it gets access to some buffs that white mage doesn't. Paladin is a very good class too, they have high defense and offense and they have access to some buffs, but they don't really have multitarget.

My advice is to try Dark Knight, though. Hardly anyone plays it, which is a shame because it's a fucking powerhouse. Darkwave wipes random encounters at the cost of HP. When you level more, you can use Last Resort in a boss fight, and any white mage worth their salt will cast Bravery on you by hitting you with a power staff. You will end the boss fight before you die from the countdown effect. When you get Final Thrust, you can darkwave to kill yourself in battle in a party, and when you revive with 1 HP, you'll get into the next battle and one-shot moon mobs with ease by thrusting them with near-perfect accuracy.
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>>2904597
If you were asking me when you replied to me, you should know guy above me is not me. Samurai is alright and great for end game bosses if geared. It won't just be available to you till part of a play thru.

Now that we're talking about classes you can actually pick, Dark Knight, Monk, Engineer. Dark Knight is good for clearing battles and traveling solo easily. His end game falls off the closer you get to it compared to all the major alternatives for doing more damage without the risk. Monk can clear the weaker battles and eventually becomes a monster. Engineer has a useful mix of skills and tools that keeps him relevant.
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>log in
>8 players
>literally everyone level 90+

no thanks........
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>>2905320
Leveling up isn't too hard in this game. 99 can be easily achieved, the issue is being able to get far enough in the game so that you can grind Cactuars for their experience.
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>>2905426
God, grinding Cactaurs was so boring
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>>2905320
Logs in, doesn't speak to the 8 players. Doesn't attempt to get any of them to roll a new character. Takes the time to come to the forum to publicly express that he won't be participating. Fucks still aren't given. What a surprise, a closed mouth wasn't fed.
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>>2905452
It's a hard and boring hour or so. Watching them rapidly melt as your carried by people that instakill them for you.
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>>2903486
Sadly I no longer have the 2.0 source as I ad been working on it and never created a backup of that version. Maybe someday though.
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>>2905603
Plus you have to fit in a level range to join a party. Though I think admins can break that level range and force their way into your party, which can be very helpful if they're bored.
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>>2905598
>forgets meme arrows and line breaks
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It's dead, Jim
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am noob, I dont think there's any information in this thread on how to download and get running.
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>>2906479
make byond account
download byond
install byond
put address in op into byond
play final fantasy remnants
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I was playing it before and then it wasn't responding so I forced closed it. Now everytime I try to connect, it has an instant, "Connection Failed" but I can play other games. Please help me.
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So is anyone playing this?
Didn't play this thing when it came out but sounds fun, how are black mages here? Wanna be a wizard. I don't mind healing and all that but i don't wanna be 100% support.
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>>2907721
The server lost it's domain address.

HK is currently contacting the server owner I believe.
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>>2907798
Black Twin has sizeable damage output with proper gear and build. Plus, Bluff makes your spells do even more damage. Can't go wrong, there.
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>>2907870
How's red mage or blue-can't get monsters to hit me with their abilities-mage? Usually hybrids end up sucking dick but honestly i wouldn't mind going full on dark magic to kill shit and some white magic to heal\support my buddies when needed.
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>>2907884
Different guy here. I have no experience with current Red Mage right now, but Blue Mage is just amazing as a support piece. Having access to Haste, Protect, Shell, Faith and Bravery after getting all the abilities gives them a great toolbox. As you level, you'll get plenty of use from your damage dealing ones, but they just don't seem to scale so well late game. Magic Hammer is a pretty good MP drainer. White Wind is, as expected, a worse heal the more it's needed, but still handy to have.

Overall, I've always liked having a Blue Mage in the party.
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>>2907884
Blue has excellent utility. Fantastic buffs, decent damage output (10000 guaranteed, defense be damned), and they take low damage when geared for evasion. Red has an interesting stat block that lets you build it into a white or black mage, with the proper gear. Or you can build for spellblade and do a lot of single-target damage. Like blue, they are best when geared for evade, and they have access to a huge range of gear, more than any other class.

If you manage to get any of the overpowered gear (Galantine, Hero Shield) from the superbosses, it will definitely help your build significantly.
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>>2907904
>>2907915
I don't remember much about blue mages from original games, honestly. Is it hard as fuck to learn his skills? I remember that you need to get hit by an enemy skill to learn it. Is there some way to taunt them into using their skills on you? With 4 or 5 people chances aren't high you'll get hit by a learnable skill, unless it's an All-Enemies one.
I'll give them both a try once game's up again, love being a utility guy, long as it's not a huge pain in the ass to get said utility under your tool belt.
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>>2907921
A BM doesn't need to get hit by a skill to learn it, only witness the enemy do it.

Some of the skills like Ultima, Dragon Force, Lunar Force and Black Hole are end-game stuff. Last time I checked, White Wind was exclusive to Asura.
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>>2907921
it's not that hard. you only have to see the enemy use it, and then you'll get it. you don't have to be hit by it. sometimes you'll wait around for a while before an enemy uses a spell though, and most parties are full of assholes that hate waiting for blue mages to learn something. but you can refight bosses by fighting with someone that hasn't yet killed the boss (as long as you're within 20 levels of their level/party average level), and get another opportunity to learn something if you've missed it.
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>>2907945
>>2907951
Either 2D FFs i played were different with "have to get hit" or i just remember wrong.

See-to-learn sounds much, much better, thanks.
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>>2907958
games like ff5 ARE get-hit-to-learn. FFR just does it differently.
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>>2907904
>was a white mage in a group with a red mage and a blue mage
>was rendered virtually useless
felt bad man
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>>2908154
at least you had curaja and arise. WM has their place, though devout pretty much does their job better.
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>>2895714
>You openly admitted to making an distasteful abortion joke
It's like I'm really on Tumblr!
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>>2901417
No community can thrive and be fun if the people with administrative powers are shit heads, and you guys are shit heads. That's really all there is to it.

Let me ask you this: Is there an "ignore" function built into the chat engine? Yes? Then muting someone for anything other than advertising or flooding (ACTUAL flooding, not "he's really talkative and I don't like what he says") is completely indefensible. Now add to that the fact that the "offending" statement was a "distasteful" joke about the reproductive habits of fictional creatures, and it's pretty clear that you and the GM were having a nice little power trip over someone you resented for questioning your completely asinine decisions. (But by all means explain to me how a joke about Yoshis constitutes either "spamming" or "harassment".)

>>2899890
>I'm not perfect by any means but I respect people more when they can own up to their mistakes and above all not let it get to them.
Is that an ironic way of saying you have no self respect? You are slime, dissembling about rules and nonexistent "harassment" when all you're doing is banning people who dare question your pompous and self-serving authority. What really irks me is that you appeal to 4chan for your user base when the only philosophy congruent with your actions demands trigger warnings and "safe spaces" from distasteful jokes. SE is the type of big, fan supported company that has to pay homage to that shit; something advertised on /vr/ shouldn't. So maybe it is time that SE heard about your endeavor so they can more efficiently manage this safe space free of abortion jokes. I think it's time their lawyers got an email with all the appropriate links and info.
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>>2908817
Give it a rest, Sheldon.
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>>2908817
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>>2906418
FFR or /vr/?
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>>2908884
both!
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>>2908817
Several posters have been accused of being Dhythos, however; only this poster has written in a similar fashion. It didn't take long for >>2908841 to make the accusation either.

What I'm getting from this thread is that logical and smart is bad. Anyone ready for the real shit kicker? Dhythos wasn't banned for questioning the mute. He was banned because HK agreed the mute was unfair, however; refused to remove it because it is his and Szenkars game and he refused to oppose his co owners decision. Dhythos then quoted HKs logged in game conversation from the week before where HK himself boasted the importance of unbiased enforcement of rules in a game. HK had gone on about how he was fair and a better owner thant he previous owners because of his fair decision making. Of course, Dhythos showing HK he was a hypocrite with HKs own words didn't sit well, and that quickly escalated to the ban. Hk threatened a ban immediately for "daring to quote him" and Dhythos responded with a threat to report only if he is banned for that exact reason rather than a fair and logical reason. Result, HK immediately banned beacause of the buitt hurt.

You've all read random pro and anti Dhythos opinions and stories. This is the absolute truth. Szenkars biased mute lead to Dhythos appealing to HK, who agreed with Dhythos and then said tough shit. Best admin ever.

>>2901430
Only the key Dhythos was muted. Dhythos chose not to worldsay on his alternate dual key while able out of respect for the rules. You could learn something about that HK. You set up rules, then tear them up on a whim. Why don't you admit the truth, that you never disagreed with the logic of the appeal and it never had to be a pager issue? The issued Dhythos had in the past were not close to being on par with the major trolls of FFL past. All of them ended up temp banned and reformed. The only bad egg here is you for lying on this fucking forum to save face.
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Shut the fuck up already you sperglord.
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thread ruined
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>>2908817
Well that's your opinion, feel free to believe I'm the worst hypocritical power trip baddy out there. Some people just need someone to fight and I guess you feel like I'm one of em which I'm flattered really but *shrugs*.

Onto whether or not the joke was mutable. I stand by and say it was. Just because there's an ignore function doesn't mean everyone has already done so and once something has been read it can't be unread. The abortion joke was untasteful and deserved the mute, he tried to appeal to the GM which was fine, the GM stood by it and it should've ended there. Had it done so nothing more would've happened he'd of gotten unmuted and no one would've been hurt.

I laugh that you resort to calling me shithead and slime as if I'm gonna be truly upset by anything you say. You even threaten to report the game again as if I should be concerned about your opinions of me to the point that I'm gonna have lawyers down my throat from SE. Allow me to enlighten you a bit, the lawyers at best will send a C&D the problem with that however is the game is already open source. If it's not me anyone can pick it up if they know where to look. I never once got the C&D so I'm not breaking rules I'm not making money so it's not as if they can sue me and I didn't create the /vr post to appeal for players. Granted I did make a public acknowledgement of this post and told people they could have fun so I guess you're somewhat correct in that regards.

All in all, you call me a shit head power tripping slime, but when you attack me anonymously and then threaten to ruin everyones fun you truly show how hypocritical you are and biased you are in this conversation for whatever reason.

Hate me as much as you want, it doesn't change anything. I'm not gonna change my opinion on the events of what happened just cause you don't agree with them. If you are dhythos however this was a pointless rebuttal he's far too mad.
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>>2909595
based hk
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>>2909062
I don't recall ever saying the mute was unfair, granted if you have the evidence to back it up feel free and I'll comment on it. I'm the only owner, Szenkar is not a co-owner but does help me manage the staff. Technically he's probably the closest thing to a co-owner now but certainly wasn't yet at the time. My opinion regarding Dhythos' mute was unbiased. He made an abortion joke in a public chat, appealed to a gm (which is fine) ignored the gm believing he was biased against him and eventually appealed to me which after looking into it I sided with the gm's decision cause why wouldn't I? He again made a tasteless abortion joke on a public channel.

If I was shown to be a hypocrite you're gonna have to explain how. Pretty sure if someone else made a public abortion joke in game I wouldn't of ignored it.

I didn't ban him for threatening to "quote" me, I banned him after he slung the idea of reporting the game to SE cause I'm tired of people using it as an excuse to try and get there way. Dhythos felt entitled from me and the game believing that he was extremely helpful and that I owed him for that. Or that cause he hasn't reported the game he also deserves to be put on a throne for it. Truth is he is not entitled to anything, no one is. And these threats need to be dealt with swiftly.

I'm fairly positive Dhythos' alt was muted at some point, for someone that claims to not be Dhythos you also seem to have a lot of insider knowledge on what Dhythos did or didn't do. This happened quite a while ago as well so it seems awfully suspicious that you would remember random info about someone you claim isn't you. This ban must've been so traumatizing for a side liner like yourself that you have it ingrained in your memory a year later. I really do feel sorry for you but I promise that being banned from a game so under the radar that no one should really care but apparently do that you will get over it someday.
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>>2909595
Now that I think on it, I do recall being really irritated with him when he quoted me thinking I was being hypocritical on something I said earlier. I can't remember what it was about though, but I do not recall threatening to ban him for it then again I was angry at the time so maybe I did. I wonder if I can dig up what it was he was quoting me on to try and justify why I should unmute him. Pretty sure this conversation was also done in pager and again only Dhythos would know something like that, he didn't have many friends to truly confide in so I highly doubt a random by-stander would know about it.

Oh well, whether your Dhythos or not you sure do seem to have much to say on this topic. Regardless my memory feels jogged and it'll all come back to me at some point. Then again do I really want it to? I mean this was a year ago and I would think Dhythos as well would've moved on by now. I only talk about this cause I can't seem to escape the clutches of this conversation at the moment.
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>>2909632
Biased? I'm very biased. I was a member of his clan. He made my icons. He helped me unlock classes. You agreed with him in the appeal and backed Szenkar because of your bias. I do know a lot about it, however; you say everything I know is wrong while admittimg I'm knowledgable on what happened. Odd. Are you saying here and now that if it can be proven thst you backed Szenkar and threatened to ban Dhythod only after he copy and pasted a single quote of you to you, you'll remove the ban?
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>>2909650
That's right he did have a clan, I don't remember many people being in it. So he made you a few icons eh? How admirable, it certainly deserves you defending him a year later for icons that were I'm sure well done.

I stand by what I said again, I didn't disagree with his mute, if I stated as such in any way I'm sure there was a reason behind it. If you have the conversation I'll report to you why I may of made it appear as if Dhythos was "unfairly" muted but I've stated in this thread and during the events that happened he was properly muted for his offense and wasting everyones time.

You can be knowledgeable of specific events that happened and still get things wrong. After all the conversation between me and Dhythos was 2 ways not 3. You were at best quoted on what was being said and probably got the highlights from Dhythos not the actual info. So being knowledgeable of some events and being wrong are entirely possible to a by-stander. Unless you want to admit your Dhythos and actually talk to me one-on-one about the events of a year ago then we can do that.
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>>2909661
Report to me? If I reveal who I am you'll just ban me. I left the clan same day you banned him. You're an expert on not having many friends, so I'll agree he probably didn't have many. 10 or so counting me. I wish I had contact info beyond a byond key. I'd love to see that reunion between the two of you.
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>>2909676
Why would I ban you? In all the years i've run FFR I believe I banned maybe 2 or 3 people Dhythos being one of them and they were for similar reasons. Disagreeing with me doesn't warrant a ban, threatening the game does. To my knowledge you haven't done such a thing. But I won't be changing your mind on that you already believe me to be some evil dictator so I'll just move along from that now.

when I said "Report to me" I meant post the conversation and we can discuss it. Now that more of my memory is being jogged I may of agreed that a perma mute was unfair but the mute itself wasn't. The perma mute could've been on the grounds that Dhythos was a nuisance to the player base. Granted Dythos was walking a fine line into being perma-muted by me for as you stated quoting me in hypocritical situations as it were. If I can just remember what these quotes were I can better explain why it irritated me but the conversation is still fuzzy in my head atm.
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>>2909690
Googled cecil81067. Page 2 has this link http://pastebin.com/5LRxLMRy While it's not what we need (The pager conversation) It's interesting to see how poorly you and Dhythos got along not long before the ban. Hint, you seemed to be on the same page. This probably wasn't long before the ban since I see Gladiator being discussed.
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>>2909719
>http://pastebin.com/5LRxLMRy

You are correct, prior to Dhythos being banned we actually got along quite well. I don't believe I ever denied this. In fact Dhythos was the one that would test challenges immediately after creation and seemed to enjoy testing them out. At some point Dhythos started to get on everyones nerves and specifically the attention of the staff. It was certainly upsetting hearing about Dhythos being in trouble but I can't fix other peroples problems and when I DID get involved it was a waste of time and had Dhythos just let it go and took his mute properly and been patient he never would've been banned. The perma-mute likely wouldn't of stuck it rarely ever does.
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szen here

I really don't want to post all this here to turn this into a thread of FFR team vs Dhythos because it's not the intended purpose of this thread at all. But someone just can't keep his mouth shut!

I didn't only mute Dhythos because he made really distasteful jokes; he was a downright rude, shit-stirring twat to everyone in the world chat on a daily basis (if you want proof, you only need to look at this thread). HK didn't disagree with the mute, and it's strange for the above poster to say what they're saying if they aren't Dhythos at all; how would you know what HK had said at all if you weren't? Anyway, you've deluded yourself by twisting the story in your own mind so much that you actually believe it, which is a sign that you have a legitimate mental illness. You've only turned me into a scapegoat because I accused you of quadruple-keying, and you SO vehemently denied it for some reason, claiming that you and your brother both dualkey... Which is fine, and when I tried to explain to you that the game shows all your accounts and computer IDs linked together anyway, you flipped a colossal shit in the world chat and refused to listen. I'll never understand that.

If you think I'm bad, you should have played when Dolph was still around. He straight-up banned /v/ players for >greentexting in the world chat. At least I gave you a month or two to try to prove you weren't an asshole... But you were. The very fact that you had to stir up shit in the world chat on a daily basis attests to this.

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>>2909774
You got banned because you threatened to call Square. FFR staff are extremely laid back in giving out any kind of punishment - case-in-point, you are the ONLY person to receive a ban in a long time - you never see players in jail, and automute for repetitive text is all you ever see. Despite being so laid-back, you still insist that I'm the one doing wrong to you, when in actuality, you burned your own bridge to the game by threatening to get Square.

FFR is a non-profit fangame developed by two guys in their free time. Nowhere is it stated that you have any kind of divine right to play the game, and your access can be revoked for any reason. But since we're not dicks and like seeing people enjoy and critique our work by providing input (except for please buff ninja) and comments, we only revoke access from insufferable twats that threaten us.

I have saved at least one of your FFR takedown threads you posted here before. Those only reinforce the decision to cut all of your ties with the game. You are never getting unbanned because you threatened the game itself. I'm not going to bother going through your posts to offer a point-by-point rebuttal. The development team doesn't want you here because you threatened them. I am amused by you trying to tell the lead developer to "fuck off" because he's a "bad egg" - the game is his. Not yours. And a mute on one key mutes your computer ID as well.

What are you trying to prove? Because the only thing you have proven is that you're a pissed off clown that can't accept that he fucked up and get the fuck over it.
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>>2909770
Everyone is arguing over why the ban occurred and I'm just sitting here like "Why was his brother banned?" No enemies, no issues.
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>>2909774
Hk gets the heat for the ban and Szen is clearly the one with the personal issue and bias. Dance puppets?
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>>2909791

One thing that pastbin shows is that I certainly don't ban people for simply disagreeing with me or mute them. That conversation goes on a long while before Ota intervened.

Second I think it's been proven Dhythos has no brother, we can see your computer ID's and they are all linked. There wasn't an extra computer ID to at least suggest that Dhythos got on his keys a few times there was just one computer ID I believe. Since the ban I placed on Dhythos bans his key and everything associated with it his brother was an unfortunate casualty which is the risk of playing with people that choose to disrupt the rules. Assuming he had a brother to begin with.
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>>2909774
Wait. You remember exactly why you dislike him in detail? You accused him of quad keying and he denied it for some reason? The reason is either he wasn't or he lied. It sounds like your entire issue with him was avoidable in the 30 seconds it takes to simply get the truth.
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>>2909806
If there was just one computer ID than he wouldn't have argued with Szen "vehemently" over it. The entire basis of argument being possible is that there must have been more than one computer ID. Why would a mod be so pissed or interested in whether someone has a sibling playing or not?
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>>2909806
Read Szens post carefully. It looks like the entire issue between him and Dhythos was a debate over Szen initiating an accusation. The abortion joke is obviously a straw man to perm mute the guy for a separate issue initiated by your staff member. It's here in plain sight. Szen clearly caused the entire mess.
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>>2909814
No one else has shown to have the issue Dhythos has described. He was more then defensive enough on a casual mention of the ID's clearly something Dhythos didn't want people to know about perhaps? Who knows why he was upset about as well. I'm just telling you that the odds of him having a brother are pretty slim. it's unlikely we wouldn't see a second CID.
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>>2909817
I believe he had a brother. What I don't believe is that Szen had a reason to initiate an argument about it and not simply ask for indefinite proof. How can you flame a member of your community as guilty and not just offer a chance to prove ones innocence? We have technology that allows us to instantly view people in real time and blast doubts over petty shit like that HK. If he has a brother, you banned an innocent third party. Fuck Dhythos for a minute, what about the guy you potentially nuked for nothing?
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>>2909817
Me as mod: WHISPERS "The system is showing you're quad keying. It's against the rules.

Person in question. :I'm not quad keying.

Me as mod: The system shows four keys on one CID. Going to need proof or you can't log in as more than two IDs anymore.

At this point, person proves it or admits to lying. There is no long winded exchange, attempt to humiliate someone with an accusation, ect. The only thing I see here is that Szen is an incompetent mod that caused you and the user a lot of fucking grief and stressed you both into an extreme situation.
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Quadkeying isn't against the rules. I merely said one time that he appeared to be quadkeying - so, I accused him of doing it - and he flipped out. He was not only muted for making shitty jokes, he was muted for being disruptive to players in the world chat as well as harassing other players constantly. Where do you think >>2870735 came from?
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>>2909858
What I get out of this entire thread is that you and Dhythos had a falling out over your accusation. It lead to you muting him shortly after for an unrelated straw man reason. This lead to him and HK discussing an appear. HK agreed it shouldn't be a perm mute but didn't want to step on your toes. HK was irritated to be bothered with the bull shit you created. Dhythos copy pasted some fucking quote by HK that he believed showed HK would be a hypocrite unless he stepped in and helped squash your bull shit. HK got mad and made Dhythos mad. Ban threat countered with report thread countered with real ban. You got everything you wanted Szen? HK lost his tester that he got along with until your bull shit and the victor of battles writes history. GG
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>>2909869
I'm betting HK is sitting there right now wondering a few things. Did any of this have to happen without Szens bull shit? Did HK accidentally nuke a third party? Could the server have completely avoided going into hiding if you weren't an ass Szen. Personally, I'd be wondering why you're so hateful on the subject of the dispute before the mute rather than the square threat. Your focus alone heavily suggests that's the moment in time you developed the hate that you carry for the guy.
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>>2909874
buying into the szen puppeteer logic somewhat. hk and dythos dont seem like they'd of argued over anything less than a szen situation. thanks for setting ffrs population back asshat.
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>>2909836
Quadkeying is not against the rules, szen just pointed it out to him. No one was gonna ban his keys or anything for that. His "brother" got banned cause when I banned Dythos his computer ID was the same as Dythos. I don't feel guilty about that cause Dythos shouldn't of took it that far. It's unfortunate that this supposed brother was also removed from the game, but the evidence points to the contrary.

I don't personally care what started this problem, I was there at the end and I was threatened. Dythos even tried to reverse look me up to get my physical address. Threatened harm to me and tried to use reporting SE as a scapegoat to his own ends. We may of gotten along at one point but that doesn't mean much when a person is willing to go so far over nothing. Dythos may have never been correct in looking me up but the fact that he tried shows how petty this is.
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>>2909924
I don't think you'd unban his brother if you came across them both tomorrow somewhere and verified they were two different people. Some of your posts seem really fair, and others hint at the fact that you do what you want and are the type that won't change his mind.
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>>2909935

I never banned his brother, I banned Dythos, I can't unban someone I never banned. So I guess you're right lol
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>>2909947
Now you're just being a petty asshole. Just because you don't point and click ban doesn't mean you didn't ban. If Iran nukes one Mexican and melts 72000 more, they can't go "I didn't nuke 72000 Mexicans. I nuked Jose." The difference is you can unban the third party, but have clearly stated you don't give a shit.
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>>2909924
Dhythos rejoined FFR days after his ban. I'm one of the few that know his new user name.
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>>2909956

Your accusations are adoreable. You really like to blow things up to crazy.
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dhythos must be black. this is how the cops treat us all the time. oh u want rights and due process nigga? u going to internal affairs if i violate those rights more? now ima beat the shit out u nigga and its okay cause im the law. u shouldnt have mentioned dat internal affairs or fairness shit to me nigga. im the authority. respect it cause i do what i want nigga.
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>>2909963
Way to make something racist for no reason. But to each their own. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>2909969
plz. u know u of the ffr version of the corrupt cop. u beat a nigga up for flexing his rights and banned him for threatening to snitch if you beat him up more.
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>>2909974
Lol, your accusations are running wild now. You certainly made my day.
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This is an image board.
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>>2909774
Ban Szen. That is all.
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Final Fantasy Remnants is based off source from the 2003 game Final Fantasy Legacy. It is not Retro and does not belong in VR.
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>>2909956

If it makes you feel better, I don't give a shit. The odds of this "brother" being real are incredibly low. Let's say for the sake of argument the code is buggy and didn't report a second computer ID. Well here's where this starts to fall apart. I didn't ban Dythos through the game. He's banned via the pager which uses byonds own key signature program. You see BYOND itself associates all his keys as one as well not just the "potentially" faulty code. So what exactly are the odds of Dythos' brother being both real and a innocent bystander? I'll let you figure that out on your own but I'm sure my one ban has to be comparable to mass murder anyway so I doubt you'll listen to anything anyone has to say. Keep the tin foil hat on buddy.
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>>2910012
The bottom line is you would not unban him under any circumstance. Nothing past that matters. If tomorrow you obtained evidence that they were two separate people from any reliable source, you'd disregard it. That's the problem.
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I only used the example of the simple accusation to show how quickly he blows his top. Nothing else is meant by it and it has nothing to do with why he got muted or banned - because, as I said, he was harassing players and causing trouble in the world chat. I didn't ban or mute him because of a personal vendetta like you're accusing me of, so - sorry! You're filling in gaps where there are none.
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>>2910019
Why would you unban someone that's threatening to take the server down? Whether or not Dhythos has a brother doesn't even matter.
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>>2909924
Michael Martinez Colorado Springs, Colorado, United State. Dhythos, reach out for more.
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So I have been messing with the BYOND client. The only way I can get it to launch on my computer (windows 10) is to go to dreamseeker and copy paste the redirect me into it. It will launch the game but tell me I'm not logged in. I have already made an account but I don't know how to log in to the game once it's launched. Sorry if this isn't clear but could someone help? Would really like to try this game
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Even if Dhythos were playing FFR right now with a different key, he's not being a cunt like he was before, which is a significant improvement if it's even true at all
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>>2910019
I'd disregard it cause I cannot unban someone I never banned. I'm sorry you seem to lack the ability to understand this. I cannot change byond's key signature policy nor would I ask them to. If you feel like his keys are unjustly jointed take it up with byond and see how that goes. Removing dythos from the unban list is not an option cause Dythos needed to be banned for threats against the server. If I banned his key in game it would be the same, his computer ID's are the same therefore his brother will be banned again. What do you propose?

I'm not gonna bother explaining this again, this is an unfortunate casualty and his own brother is to blame for it. You're also white knighting for someone that isn't even asking to be unbanned either and at this point with how much you're shoving this OMG UNBAN HIM NOWZ CAUSE IT'S UNJUST mentality it's more then likely that if a solution was found to unban him dythos would use it to ban evade if he hasn't already. Sorry but as I stated before, I honestly don't give a shit that his "brother" was banned. Is it unfair? Sure, but it was his brother that caused the turmoil and wouldn't let things go. Had Dythos never provoked neither he nor his brother would've been banned. If anyone should feel guilty about his brother not being able to play it's Dythos and no amount of you crying how unjust you believe it is will fix that.
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>>2910038
When you open the BYOND client on your PC it should ask for a login
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>>2910012
The pager associates them because of the IP.
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>>2910042
What I propose is very simple. Step 1. Unban the four keys in question. Step 2. Key Ban Dhythos and his alternate key rather than what is associated. I can't say I'd jail you if your brother committed a crime. I'd give a shit. Beyond all your fancy words you're clearly a bad person HK.
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>>2910042
Alternate proposition. You're missing the point that Dhythos only threatened to go to Square if you were un just in talking sense into your subordinate. Be just and fair, and you never had to worry about him doing anything of the sort? Your hasty ban was the only threat to the game.
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>>2910042
Personally, I'd unban Dhythos and be very clear that any violation of the actual rules of the game will result in perm ban. I'd let him know this is his last chance and if a ban occurs it will be for him violating the rules and not personal pride, vendettas or issues beyond the scope of the game. Treat the game as it's own entity. In business, if you make a LLC but then run the business based on your whims like it's a shield, the judge bipasses the LLC protection when you're sued directly. The protection only stands up when the LLC functions as its own entity with rules, schedules, and standards that are followed day in and day out validating the LLC as more than a shield. You could learn a lot from that.
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>>2910056

Dythos is the only keys that's banned. Not sure why you think I have other keys to unban so step 1 seems odd.Step 2 is already in place.

This is a game, and you need to disassociate that with real life already. This game is so irrelevent you shouldn't be comparing it to mass murder, cops, or real life crimes. I'm sorry to tell this to you in such a way. Here's an idea for you though since you feel it's unjust. Get the source, or a source like it, make your own game and host it with your own set of justified laws. Problem solved no?
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>>2910042
Yet another proposition. Step 1. Require Dhythos contact you directly. Step 2. Require he and his brother both speak with you directly through a program with visual and audio capability. Step 3. Have a civil discussion, then make a just decision.

Out come. You could leave Dhythos banned and free the brother. You could unban both and have Dhythos on his last leg. You could allow the brother to make two new keys and transfer the save files. You have options beyond being a stubborn dick. You can be a decent human being and protect the game.
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>>2910062

This is not a business, a business requires funds to be transferred and me as a business owner giving services to the buyer. As my previous post has stated, if you feel my policy is unjust get the source and make it your own. No one is stopping you and if you know who to ask you'll get what you want. The source isn't *that* secret.
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>>2910071
You're straw maning the debate now that you're backed into a corner. It's not a policy, but your sole decision in spite of the games general policies you laid out prior to the incident. Stop being a pretentious prick and be a human being. Telling someone to code a game them self if you can't be human isn't a valid counter point in the debate you fool. It just proves my points.
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>>2910071
If you had a real conversation with the guy and his brother, you'd find yourself shedding your unreasonable defenses. You'd still get angry, disagree or agree with things. When you see and hear someone, the internet anonymity and unreasonable bull shit is quickly shed. You'd both put the issue to rest and a fair solution would be the out come. It's much easier to type whatever you want on a whim when typing.
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>>2910073

I am not straw manning anything. I'm telling you steps that you can make if you don't like my decision. I already told you that I don't care about his so called brother being banned and explained that I never banned his keys to begin with. You don't like what I have to say so you go on a tangent about fixes that don't fix anything cause you still seem to think that all 4 keys are banned and unbanning them will somehow make this work which it won't.

Now that I've given you a solution about what you can do about it you seem to be upset and argue against it cause it's clearly not that easy for you to do for some reason. Well I'm sorry to hear that. Perhaps you should take your own advice and follow it cause again this game is a hobby of mine, not a business or anything ridiculous of the sort. I owe nothing to you or Dythos or Dythos' brother and there's already solutions in place that they can do such as getting their own server. Everyones happy we all stay out of each others hair. Being upset with me is unreasonable in my pov but at least I don't sit around on a message board talking about why you're such a dick about something you know little about. But that's just me.
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>>2910081
I'm satisfied with your solution HK. I offered reason and fairness and you rejected it with pride for the community to see and re read over and over. I have no stake in it, but dislike tyrants and pride filled assholes like you. I don't need to code a game to freely continue to play FFR and my experience won't change. The people now know that you can easily free an innocent third party from a ban but don't "give a shit." Among my solutions are workable ones in spite of the pager and your retort is for me to make my own game. Every time you lose your patience, you rush to the make your own game and old source retort. The log posted earlier had you doing that in the paste bin. You're unreasonable, and I'm being reasonable. Keep crying how unreasonable I am while you sit around this message board getting mad bro.
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>>2910090
I'm sorry you think you need to be a coder to host your own game. The truth is you don't. Just need the source files. I'm tired of entitled spoiled children like you that think you're entitled to tell me how to do anything as if I owe something to you. You're unreasonable and whiney and should reconsider how you talk to people. It's like I have a ps2 in my room that I bought with my money. You as a neighbor were invited to play it but you pissed me off cause you threw my controller. I kicked you out of my house and told you to stay away but now you're mad cause I won't let you play with my stuff anymore. His brother MIGHT exist and be innocent but this isn't reality so we can't know that for sure now can we? So the two don't compare as I'm sure you'll say BUT BUT THE BROTHER IS INNOCENT argument. BS enough said. I'm sorry you find my reasoning unreasonable to you. It's a shame but it's also not a concern of mine. You're free to walk your own path no one is stopping you. Take care and get mad more either way Dythos is not playing my ps2.
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>>2910095
Dhythos still plays your PS2 whenever he wants.
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>>2910101
If that's true he's grown up a lot since then. I'm proud of him.
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>>2910095
I love how you've thrown your earlier reasoning away and changed your stance to counter me. Someone reading down the thread will watch you change as the real you comes out. :) Keep ranting about how you're the King and do what you want. Szenkar makes a bad Hand of the King btw. He isn't fit to wipe your filthy shit spewing ass. :)
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>>2910106
I haven't changed my pov or reasoning, I've simply been elaborating on it further. This is one ban from about a year ago. There hasn't been any punishments of the like rolling out since or even much before. So I'm not sure where you're coming from with this. What was the point? To make HK admit he doesn't care? I already stated as such bluntly! Lol I really don't care about this, people wanted to discuss it so I'm discussing it. I haven't changed then I haven't changed now. No amount of anything I say will help you understand my pov and the same seems to go for me understanding yours. If I've made the switch of one side to another by all means showcase it, but I can guarantee you everything I've said in this thread has been on one side and one side only. Keep the tin foil on, it looks good on you. Also FIGHT THE POWAH you need something to do anyway.
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HK sold me a Pink Tail for $ 20.00 once. He's the best
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>>2910113
This conversation is over. Back peddle as far as you like. Bye.
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>>2910124
This post is the very definition of trying to stir shit for no good reason. You're better than that, anon.

You fucked up by pissing off the admins and developers of an online game. Any other online game where you try to pull shit like this with GMs gets you banned, too. Why should a small game be any different? Stop being a delusional retard.
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>>2910132
If anyone is back peddling it's you buddy. I've stood my ground, all you did was get angry at the answers. Take care though, I hope the argument was worth your trouble!
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Seems like a lot of this argument tries to ignore the fact that Dhythos tried to take down the server, resulting in nobody being able to play at all. Funny how you can accuse someone of straw manning when you are deliberately ignoring what's right in front of you.
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>>2910139
b-b-but muh brother
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Well looks like some douchebags are trying to get this shut down. Even posting crap like the owner / admin made money off it by selling an in-game item... would not be surprised if they're ramping up to send an email to square with a link to this thread.

Oh well, was fun while it lasted. Only got to play a little and got a paladin to 45. Wanted to see the end game but it looks fucked now.
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>>2910139
It all goes back to you Szenkar. Let us never forget that.
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>>2910154
Hk does make money sometimes. Do you really think certain people grinded some of that impossible drop rate gear? LMFAO. I paid him ten bucks for my Engineer Tools when RNG shit on me. Air Anchor. <3
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>>2910154
Nah, just one buttblasted person is trying to get the game shut down. It's not working.
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>>2910169
Needlessly posting the game on a forum when it's an illegal game isn't exactly a smart decision in the first place. Yeah, 4chan threads delete. Archives also exist. It's the internet idiots.
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Well i can just make a statement that I've never accepted money for anything in-game. I've turned down anything related to money or the idea of exchange for anything. It's easy to hide in anon to make these claims. Which is adoreable.

It's fine though, this is 4chan trolls are abundant here if worse comes to worse we can always shutdown but someone will be back to pick it up again. FFL has a tendency to never die and I hope the next person is the totally justified leader you all are hoping for. lol thing is with a game like this so many people have the source it's near impossible to shutdown entirely. This isn't caused by me but by previous owners I have no way of controlling that so if someone else happened to pick up the mantle in my destruction i can't be held up to that sadly no matter how much you trolls would believe it so. I'll just end up moving on to something else.
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>>2910168
I do not believe you.
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>>2910159
>admins are responsible for how players behave
lol
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Holy shit what the fuck is even going on here
You people are literally worse than /v/ right now
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>>2910179
The people who said they paid you money were just kidding around.

I also remember that time when you declined any sort of donations after the >manlet monk incident.
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>>2910192
The drama phase of a games life, or in this case, reemergence
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>>2910179
If only someone anonymously posted a link to the current source, or old source, or host file on this very thread. If this happened, it would greatly increase the accuracy of this statement by proving the source is abundant and making it more so.
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>>2910198
I don't believe you can post that stuff on this forum, back when I was starting on FFR though I knew on hand about 5 people that had the source, and they claimed to give it to others, I believed it since a few of the previous owners had several people working on the source at once. Not including myself there should be roughly 10+ people with different versions of FFL. I'm sure if you asked someone will do it.
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>>2910208
we need more than that. wait a bit and post as anonymous instead of hk. get us to an out dated source that is right before any of your touches! a new generation must study it and slowly learn to code.
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>>2910220
Lol, I won't be releasing anything I have. I've never done that I won't start that now. I'm not against helping someone learn either, but I won't be outsourcing my stuff.
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>>2910226
Release what you haven't done.
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>>2910208
4chan isn't a forum, it's an imageboard, you can't upload anything that isn't an image or webm.
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>>2910264
no shit. he needs to upload the shit off site and link it.
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what even is a triforce bun?
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I've already stated it won't be through me, find someone else.
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>>2910295
He's keeping it for himself so he can sell drops in game!
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>>2910332
You people are the reason my friend doesn't have a full head of hair. :(
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>>2909649
When you are a nerd coming from a family and circle of fake rappers and trash, you have to go hard with your illegal fan game administration. Keep it real gangster. Seriously though, you have so few friends yourself. Hating on your enemy for sharing your faults is amusing. Thank god you found a click of con going nerd friends to carry you through those sad years.
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>>2910045
Well I downloaded BYOND and it installed and everything but when I click on the icon it put on my desktop nothing happens. Maybe it's just me idk
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>>2910397
Resorting to personal attacks doesn't really make you look good you know. Hiding behind a wall of anon makes you such a bad ass now. I'm so glad you have the ability to remember odd details or look things up. I'm honestly flattered you care this much about me that you'd go through such great lengths to find my info lol but i'm sure you just googled. :)

You're right though, I don't have a whole lot of friends, pretty introverted does that to you, the friends I do have are awesome though and I am grateful for them getting me through these "sad years" as you put it.

I can say one thing though, even though you are anon to me at least I'm here you know? I don't make excuses I simply speak matter of factly. You know who I am, but at least I'm no someone literally hiding in that shadow of a forum taking jabs at people I don't actually know. Either through scare tactics or what have you. So good luck with that, sounds like you are the one that's more insecure then I ever could be.
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>>2910397
It sounds to me like you just want the game with no administration (or with you in an admin spot), but you still want continuous updates. It doesn't work that way, bucko. You are literally the one person that can't get along with the admins. When /vr/ came in last time, the server topped 60 players a day, and none of them were troublemakers, none of them were banned... Save for one. Surely the one person out of many wasn't banned for no reason at all, right? Come on now.

If you don't like the development team, you are free to leave. FFR wouldn't be FFR without the developers. but if you want to stay and play, that's cool too, as long as you're not a disruptive douche about it.

if you want an FFL/FFR source and don't have it then you seriously need to lurk the fuck more, one guy at least from /vr/ already has the source from years ago and was working on his own game from it.
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>>2910436
Why would i be insecure about that? I can't stop losing hair if I tried. lol
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>>2910441
You look like a skinny Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force bro.
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>>2910445
Aww thanks :)
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>>2910449
57. Lowest number I've ever seen anyone have short of the elderly.
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>>2910450
Yeah lol i don't care about my facebook much.
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>>2910451
Google+ hasn't ever been popping either. Your twitter has 3 posts about a Game of Thrones staff member and your past has you leaching off Joel and Amy Williams until they had a child and moved on. You're a basement dweller bro.
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>>2910451
Your Steam account has what, a dozen friends and two former historical friends? Even if you did care, it changes nothing. You're a social reject foaming over FFR as an escape from the life you've wasted.
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>>2910456
Indeed times are tough man.
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VR does not dox. You're doing bad.
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It got nasty as hell in here didn't it
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>>2910458
What exactly are you hoping to gain from spewing some random facts about me I haven't stated for myself both in public in game or elsewhere? The facts you found are there for a reason. No I'm certainly not living a lavish lifestyle filled with wholesome goodness like you so apparantly do. Yes I'm going bald... oh dear a genetic trait I cannot control, an attack on my looks! Oh my whatever will I do. You hide behind your anon like a bitch which is the real truth going on here. You spout shit I left out in the public digging like an idiot through trash and honestly believe you can sling it against me like you're somehow some warrior with an AHA! Moment.

I laugh at this cause what can you honestly say? I'm a nerd? I leeched off people? I don't socialize much? Oh man secret is out people! I feel so VIOLATED. No buddy, you are now grasping so hard at desperation it's honestly a wonder that you can't hold an argument against me. Resorting to this really? Were you hoping to make me sad or something? Nothing you said changes anything. Grow the fuck up seriously.
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>>2910463
Unfortunately the one retard is not a native /vr/ user or even 4chan user, and just thinks that 4chan = /b/. He's autistic so he can't get it through his head that he's doing wrong, and instead makes multiple posts trying to make himself seem like he's multiple people supporting his arguments instead.
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>>2910478
Would it make you feel any better if I DOX Dhythos?
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>>2910483

No, I don't think it's all that cool to dox anyone, Why would I put Dythos out in the open like that? I may not care much about him but what if something was shitty going on and I put it out for everyone to see? It's not cool. He can do it to me all he wants, it doesn't make a difference.
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>>2910417
When you run BYOND from your desktop, it should open as a Windows service. It'll have a dopey-little GUI with a pager, game center, popular games, that kinda thing. I haven't actually tried using it on Windows 10 so I don't know if it actually works. If nothing launches when you run the little BYOND icon, you may want to try reinstalling as administrator instead. The software kinda sucks, to be totally honest, but it's been around a pretty long time.
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>>2910486
It's not like I went the full mile and provided dangerous material. I would only go the same distance on him. You both have trails that lead pretty far.
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>>2910501

No, I'm good. I'd rather not know anything about him or anyone that supports this type of thing. It's not important to me or anyone else in this thread.
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thread hidden faster than FFRs ip
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>>2910505
You sure? I can roll up a burner FB account and message you his info. You'd only know as much about him as the forum knows about you. I'm not one for putting addresses, phone numbers or the addresses and phone numbers of server hosting associates on 4chan. This is my troll limit.
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>>2910489
Thanks! I will try tomorrow and see what happens. This game sounds pretty fun I hope I can play it before it dissappears again.
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>all the dumb shit unrelated to the actual gameplay in this thread
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>>2910519

I'm good but thank you for the concern. At best hopefully someone will take care of it, DOXing isn't really legal.
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Just got home and I am amazed at the monumental asspain I am seeing in this thread. Why would anyone stick around and rage so hard in some podunk little thread for some podunk little game? Jesus Christ I'm cringing with embarrassment for you, NotDhythos.
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ya know i actually liked this game and grinded 2 99s but jesus christ the sad dwellers in this thread
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>>2910526
If that doesn't work for you, there are BYOND developer forums where the platform developers would be able to help out with issues. If you have friends, you should bring them along with you, playing in a party, especially over Skype, is way more fun.
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>>2910529
Depends on the Doxing. Posting your FB and looking at your twitter and shit isn't illegal. Knowing your steam name isn't illegal Cyrus Knight. Illegal would be endangering you by dropping that other info I refuse to give. I may be a troll, but I don't need your safety on my conscience.
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>>2910542
Yeah once I get it going I plan on getting a few friends. I know at least 2 that would be down. Thanks for answering me amidst all this madness lol
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>>2910543

It's not the facebook stuff it's my name showing up and the attempt to leak some personal information that's showing up even if it's inaccurate. The person is seriously fishing for my information. Steam and what have you is not my concern the twitter i don't think is even mine... I honestly don't watch game of thrones so not sure why that would be referenced being completely honest here. The point is that this person is digging a little hard and I don't believe I posted much personal information like where I live and stuff but I could be wrong. Either way it's starting to get into illegal territory. It's not concern for you I have, and my safety is of no real concern cause if it's serious enough I can just get police involved. I don't know why someone takes a game this seriously but he needs to see a psychiatrist at best not me getting information on him that isn't even important cause it's none of my business.
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>>2910483
Do it. JUST DO IT. These idiots need to talk, fight, cry and hug
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>>2910554
Usually if you start on a weekend, when most players are around, you can just ask to see if anyone wants to join you and you're likely to draw in a couple people. Honestly, a balanced 3-man party will get pretty far but trying to close out the five will make the game less hectic.
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>>2910558
If you feel your safety is at risk, go for it. In the states the laws vary by state on how Doxing is handled. Most often they need to be putting you Social, address, phone number, bank info, place of work or other info on blast. Online handles and memberships to online pages don't really amount to shit in the big picture for this sort of thing.
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>>2910558
https://twitter.com/cecil81067

Looks like yours?
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>>2910569

It hasn't really gotten to that point yet, but I'm still checking to see what happens. In the event that he does post such things I should be aware that he's trying otherwise I'm foolish for ignoring it.
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>>2910575

Interestingly enough no, that's not mine. I don't use twitter. Even the google+ thing was just something my google account cooked up you know how google is. As for the twitter for sure I don't know anything about that.
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>>2910576
It won't get to that point. It never really does here. Real Doxing isn't just glancing over google. Relax.
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This kinda bullshit is why we can't have nice things.
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literally stop posting hk
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>>2910585

Like I said, I don't feel threatened yet, I'm just being watchful. It'd be stupid to turn my back and find out he's doing more then simply looking up my key. I mean when I was younger my key was kind associated with everything. nowadays it's just remnants (lol) of what it was left behind. If I really wanted to I can go back and get rid of most if not all of it.

>2910592

Why would I stop posting? I'm not doing anything wrong lol.
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I heard shit posting was happening wassup
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>>2910601
Shit posting.
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>>2910601
Shit.
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The autism level is reaching critical mass, this is the saddest thing I have seen on this board all this year... And probably will stay this way.
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>>2910637
All 11 days of this year?
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>>2910668

Yes, and it will stay that way to the end of this year, what is the hard part to understand?
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>>2910707
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Who the fuck is this HK faggot, why the fuck is this turbofaggot doxxing him and running his mouth?

This is not the balding neckbeard and his wanna be gay lover turbovirgin buttstalker thread. Fuck off with your drama, shit up a different thread
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>>2910726
Who the fuck are you?
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>>2910730

Since people are gonna start posing as me. I'm gonna make a general statement to no longer be commenting on this thread. Take care peeps. :)
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>>2910738
Good riddens faggot. We hate you and your staff. We hate Dhythos and the trolls. You're all faggots.
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>>2910738
I can't believe I stumbled onto this nightmare of a thread. Hold you head high HK. You were a good friend from the time Nadrew oppressed the players of his server during the end of it's time right up to when I left byond a few years ago. I don't know what you've done since then, but I do know you were a nice person when I left. Don't feed the trolls here.
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>>2910793
Add me as a friend on Facebook. Everyone that has played should add me on Facebook.
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So
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>>2909595
People are anonymous by default. How does attaching an unknown identity to criticism validate it in any way, you small-minded retard? You don't know me, but the fact that you think I wouldn't say any of this if you did is a projection of your own spinelessness.

You are dissembling with nonsense again. You specifically stated "he was in a clear violation of rules", yet your rules refer to flooding and harassment. Jokes you consider "untasteful" are neither. Make the game private and make sure everyone knows that only those with delicate constitutions are invited to play in your hug box if "untasteful" jokes aren't welcome. That aside, you banned someone for questioning your authority after they were muted for something that clearly violated no rules. (Still waiting for that explanation of how a rule was violated.)

>Allow me to enlighten you ... I'm not making money so it's not as if they can sue me
Are you feigning ignorance or just stupid? You are supplying/hosting the game so it being open source is irrelevant. It is almost entirely copyrighted intellectual property that you don't own. You're aware that people get sued and imprisoned for creating torrents despite no financial gain, right?

>All in all, you call me a shit head power tripping slime, but when you attack me anonymously and then threaten to ruin everyones fun you truly show how hypocritical you are and biased you are in this conversation for whatever reason.
Care to explain the hypocrisy or bias in anything I've said? You are the reason why fun online games can't maintain sufficient player bases after a year or two: all the public servers are run by shithead adolescents who, drunk with the tiny sip of power they have, can't follow their own rules and ban the most active players in their user base for offending their delicate sensibilities or daring to question their authority and self-serving judgments. You are the most common and worthless form of human slime.
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At this stage will ye all shut the fuck, ye are all rabbiting on about shite that happened in the past. Lets get back to what this thread is all about, playing a fun game with great bants thrown in for good measure. Also soloing bahamut was a shock.
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>>2910427
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
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>>2911534
Yeah, there's an awful lot of samefaggotry in this thread. Nobody gives a fuck about the drama, they want to play the game. So if admins and retards can stop bringing attention to themselves, that'd be super.
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So does anyone actually still play this, and if so when are the hours to actually find people?
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some of you guys are alright

dont have your characters on the server this Sunday
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>>2911665
>Ixia
there's a name I haven seen in like, a year and a half. sup.
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>>2911665

Meaning?
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>>2911802
hello newfriend
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>>2911802
a while back someone posted a nearly identical message on /b/, before a shooting happened at the location they specified on the day they specified.

there's so many goddamn shootings as of late I forget where exactly.
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>>2911813

I don't quite get it, is he planning to kill the server?
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>>2859318
You posted your faggot picture on the last thread as well. How many times can the same stupid faggot post the same response once the thread starts? Answer, OP is questioning the legit link OP posted for some reason.
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Nuke this thread from orbit janitor. The first 15 posts or so are 100% copy pasted from the previous thread word for word. OP mass pasted the previous thread and replicated response after response to create a dialogue amongst himself interesting enough to draw our comments if we didn't see the previous thread to realize the game he's playing.

Game is also developed from 2003-2016.
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>>2911891
>[citation needed]
go fuck yourself, faggot
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>>2911897
I would fuck myself if I weren't so distracted by this non retro, rule breaking thread that belongs in / v / . You entitled faggots think that being fan game making, indy developers stealing retro graphics entitles you to post in / vr / . Laughable.
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>>2911907
>/ v /
>/ vr /
>>>/out/
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its dead
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>>2911967
RIP ;_;
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>>2911907
Mods never had a problem with this thread before, chum, don't see why they'd have a problem with it now
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Can't find HK's facebook to add it, but it looks like I'm too late anyway. Assuming that that is the only way to get back in and play if he makes it private. Oh well, RIP lvl 48 pld.
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Fuck, looks like I started working on custom icons for nothing. RIP
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Whoa, I liked the idea of multiplayer FF4 and would love more of that, but I didn't realize the owners/admins were so easily offendable.

That kinda takes the fun out of the social experience when you have to be careful what you type into chat, nobody likes having to censor their selves for other's delicate sensibilities, least of all 4chan.
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So they shut it down?
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>>2912450
The server goes down from time to time and has to be restarted, it could be that it needs to be restarted
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he said on the server before shutting it down. good luck finding another server
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>>2912446
no, the admins in general are really cool and help players with grinding and bosses and stuff, if you read the thread there's only one guy complaining about getting banned last year.
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>>2912484
Well, my and my friends would've liked to have played it, but it looks as though it's been taken down due to drama and doxing.
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>>2912483
Oh. Then I have no idea. Sounds like RIP
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>>2912489
the game has been up through multiple runs of /v/ and /vr/ players with the same staff, why is it only now that the game would get taken down?
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>>2912509
Because some assmad faggot decided to stirr shit
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For fucks sakes, this is why we can't have nice things
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Yo, if HK is still lurking the thread, I just wanna say thanks for the fun times
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RIP
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>>2912560
this 2bh fampai
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>>2912560
Yeah, thanks! Sorry one or two fucksticks had to ruin everything
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>>2912560
Thanks HK, it's been great.
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>>2912560
Indeed.
It sucks that it turned out this way.
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>>2912584
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and we didn't even get to start the taco fund...
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>>2912509
Been playing since literally the first incarnation, and I even started 1 initiative with /v/ years ago. This game has changed hands almost as much as SS13, every time it's under a new link and new management.

If it's down now it'll be up again in 6 months with even less players, as usual.
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Didn't even get to beat Zeromus. Oh well. RIP FF4r. It was pretty fun. Guess ill focus on FFRK.
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>>2912938
the quality of the game is drastically different when the programmer knows how to make things work. Remember Andrew? That dumb fuck did not know how to code for shit and ruined the game repeatedly, balancing the game only for his own PvP epeen. Nielz was okay, but he should've kept Andrew on a leash and let CIB program instead -- the shit Andrew pulled against him chased him away from the game for good.

Eldin? Brett? Xhaos? They fucking sucked. Nadrew was okay but he's fucking years in the past. Nobody will be able to put out a server like this one.
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>>2912584
>>2912560
>>2912938
>>2912952
Fargreze here. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but one or two people seemed to have ruined an otherwise excellent small community game yet again. I enjoyed playing with all of you, I like the game's concept and the clear effort that went into creating new and secret classes, and I'm sad to see it go. I just showed the game to a friend of mine who started playing with enthusiasm.

What's the first thing he sends me: "I think I see what you mean about great community" after watching the W-say for a few minutes.

I also hope that the decision to shut the whole scene is still not final, I'm worried that I'll miss the next revival if it comes at all. I'm grateful to the host for bringing the game back again, and I'd be just as happy to see it return once more.

I couldn't find my screenshot folder, so I'll just have to leave you with the portrait that speaks for itself. Until next time, everybody!

I'd be happy if you went back on your word, HK. I heard some things about a project you were working on and it looks like you were wrecking whoever's been causing problems in the thread. There must be a way to win.

P.S. -
Word is Sigorana Legend 2 and SS13 aren't bad

P.P.S. -
you know I was the hardest bard, whatever that means
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>>2913015
>mfw misspelled Sigrogana
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>>2913015
>I also hope that the decision to shut the whole scene is still not final
Let's hope so. At least we had some fun times sorry about getting us killed by Meteor. Good luck to everyone and see you around.
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>>2913015
HK isn't shutting the scene. He's just changing the host link and no longer discussing it here. It's existence will be denied vehemently to protect it. Just message someone in the know. Goes for everyone who's upset.
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>>2913059
Does he really think it's a good idea to go from the 30 players we had to 10? I recall a time when we had 300 people on at any time of the day\night.

It's good information to know, thanks; but this sounds like the nail in the coffin.
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>>2913059
What if you don't know anyone in the know
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>>2913081
With how this game is kept all relatively hush-hush I find it hard to believe the playerbase ever passing.. hell I'll be generous and say 75
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>>2913083
guess you're screwed like me.
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>>2913015
/vg/ guy here again. I definitely had fun, it's disappointing this happened.

Thanks for those sprites Dio, maybe I'll get to use them again sometime soon ;__;[/.spoiler]
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Final Fantasy General seems to be taking this well.
And by that it seems like they don't even care.
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>>2913218
>/vg/
It's a shame it didn't pick up there, Record Keeper and waifuposting are all they care about

>tfw even when it was up a year ago and /v/ threads were around, I still never got a chance to try and hit all the endgame stuff due to lack of motivation
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>>2913226
>>2913228
Well, we tried. At least we tried.

But there's really nothing so distracting to a bunch of circlejerking autists as waifuposting. I guess I'll just go back to FFRK.

I wish the Weeks of Waifus fag would go. At least the Ultros poster hasn't come back. Yet.

I never did get to fight Bahamut or any of the Shrine bosses and I'm sorry I checked that poster, although beating Zeromus and Gilgy were great.
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>>2913241
>I made the retard proof guide for nothing
200% mad

I'm sorry I couldn't stick with you guys through the end. No motivation and had to return to work after Christmas. I was Sog if you guys remember me ;_;
We should have kept posting ingame pics in the general to garner attention.


>check thread
>comfy tactics talk has been ruined by a waifuposter
I don't know why I stick around the general anymore.
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>>2912009
Them not paying attention to the fact this game isn't retro based on it's creation date, development time frame, ect doesn't make it categorized correctly. It is not RETRO. Period.
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>>2913271
Would you just sod off already
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Oh man another FFR thread, I miss you guys sometimes.
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>>2913275
Would you just take this faggot shit to /v/ already? Rebel scum.
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>>2913279
You're a tad late.
Due to a faggot who was banned shitting up this thread and doxxing the owner, the server was shut down.
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>>2913281
Would you just stop being a retard already?
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>>2913271
Game is obviously a mod of a retro game. Hope you're shitting up the rom hacking thread (or any of the Doom Mod threads) as much as this one. If not then you're a giant fucking hypocrite.
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Well, I saw this posted on FF Rebirth and figured I'd share it. The creation of the account was new so not sure how authentic it is but it would appear HK will not be returning.
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>>2913308
No, it's reverse engineered from scratch to mimic a retro game. It's a fan game stealing source material noob.
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>>2913330
BYOND is Retro. Deal with it.
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>>2913327
the hell is FFL
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>>2913340

FFL = Final Fantasy Legacy

It's what remnants is based off of.
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God fucking damnit.

I was just starting to get back into it and got a few friends to agree to play.
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http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/NA/Dythos

Seems like a really cool guy.
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>>2913398
Just read them all. They're listed newest to oldest, so read from a ways down. I'm mind blown.

"Intentionally feeding is feeding and doing everything you can to help the enemy team win. During the ranked game spree I purchased wards and threw them into the turrets so the enemy could get free gold. I threw my trinkets. I spread my feed to lanes, and sometimes hung around to steal exp and cs to get more wards.

I purchased primarily speed items like Swift Boots, Home Guard, Zeal, Aethers Wisp, ect. I'd pretend to help for a moment, give the team hope, then throw the team engage and walk off. I'd start dragons and barons at bad times, and the teams would usually go for it and lose them. I'd break people one lane at a time so some afked or raged.

Dropping from Silver 3 to Bronze 4 rapidly with constant huge losses should not "confuse the system." It's not a bad fucking day. Kagami is a fucking idiot white night pussy sucking riots cock here and spewing bull shit.

Go on, get on your knees and gratify your master Lyte. Lyte the great smiter who has passed me over continually because he can't "shame" and "log post" someone who purposely breaks the rules the way he can the crying banned. He knows I give no fucks and do this intentionally and discredit his social rule absolutes policies of bull shit. I've made a fool of his counter toxic hardcore punishment policies by doing this and the man has no rebuttal to prove otherwise."

Is this real?
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>>2913398
Lyte is a tyrant and League is bullshit. Most toxic community ever. Worse than /b/.
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>>2913424
And?

Main thing I wanted people to see from that link was that this is not the only game that this guy has shat up. Or shat up even more according to
your info.

Several people were trying to make a point of him being banned for next to no reason when its pretty god damned obvious that he has no problem being a massive sperglord... in this game or elsewhere.

Furthermore, if what >>2909957 said was correct and he was back in game playing after the ban, then what is/was the fucking problem? Why the shit storm if he was keeping his head down and playing the game?
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>>2913437
His sins in one game don't amount to guilt in another. Can't say he's wrong in FFL be because he was a dick in League. Idk who's wrong or care personally.
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>>2913442
Then stop replying.

Nowhere in my post did I state that "his sins in one game amounts to guilt in another". Simply that he is no stranger to being a colossal faggot whenever he feels like it.

Other people were trying to give anecdotal evidence that he wasn't the bad guy people were making him out to be, so I felt that some more concrete evidence showing that he is was needed.
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>>2913446
You're a dick. Can tell which posts are yours because you make demands like "stop replying." You didn't provide anything concrete on the FFR ban issue. League is not FFR. You're as bad here as he is on that league thread.
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>>2913451
How dumb are you? Here I'll simplify it for you.

>Other people were trying to give anecdotal evidence that he wasn't the bad guy people were making him out to be, so I felt that some more concrete evidence showing that he is was needed.

Meaning

>People were trying to say he wasn't a cunt so I gave some hard evidence showing that he is a cunt.
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>>2913446
>>2913459
The only thing other people were doing was pointing out that, regardless of his general nature, he was the victim of a power trip. Notice how HK persistently dodged any and all requests for him to explain how Dythos broke any of the server rules? Whether you consider Dythos a "bad guy" or not is completely irrelevant; the fact is, HK is a pompous, dishonest little faggot who will use the most flimsy and obviously false excuses to justify his ego mania while offering half-assed, repetitive weaselings along the lines of "well I don't really remember, but you're definitely wrong lol". And then there's his high and mighty spiel about the futility of faulting him for his role in an "open source" project:

"Well, does that mean you'll share the source with the rest of us?"
"lol, no, go fuck yourselves"

Every single solipsistic lie or half-truth is buried under a pile of "as I recall" or "if I can just jog by memory" type preemptive excuses. He can never quite remember why, but he's absolutely certain that there's no discrepancy between his actions and his saintly self-aggrandizements. Anyone who sees otherwise is just a meany-pants troll who can't appreciate all the sacrifices he's made to keep other people's work to himself. (Oh, but ANYONE can get it, just don't ask him about it.) So now he is crying over the fact that the sycophants in this thread aren't numerous enough, don't have their tongues as far up his ass as he would like, and have not sufficiently worshiped his humble martyrness of pilfered ideas and shitty programming.

But no, this is all about mischievous former player Dythos, not the "owner" balls deep in his own throat as you minions fight over who gets to eat his asshole first.
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>>2913597
You're a dumbfuck and you need to leave. YOU are the fucking problem.

Do you seriously think someone can remember hundreds of different players that just come and go? Do you really think he will remember every single detail about one individual over a year down the road after he's been taken care of, done, and forgotten? Fuck no.

If you're a toxic piece of shit, you DESERVE to be banned. I'd believe the admins of a game over a bunch of anonymous shit-flinging retards like you on an imageboard, they have a reason to defend their work because they've spent so much time on it trying to make something for people to enjoy. The fact that this thread devolved into this shit is that people like you cannot ever admit to being wrong, and instead of just shutting the fuck up and moving on, you behave like a fucking child and start digging up information and sharing it with people in an attempt at ad hominem and more; that kind of bullshit is flat-out fucking ridiculous. I know I wouldn't be able to possibly convince you because you've been a cunt all throughout this thread, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot, anon, and people would still be able to enjoy the game if it weren't for you.

Saying the game is open source isn't a lie. It's easy to find, why should he spoonfeed you? Regardess, finding a version with all of his team's work and changes will be impossible.

You just attacked someone making a game in their free time for people to enjoy just because he tried to tell you that he didn't want ONE person playing his game because they were such a colossal asshole that he needed to be put down. I sure hope you're proud of yourself, anon, for ruining a good thing.
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are you fucking kidding me? finally have time to play and the server is gone due to drama

not even 'shake my head am disappoint' you fucking suck for forcing this offline.
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>>2913645
>You're a dumbfuck and you need to leave.
No one cares what you think.

>Do you seriously think someone can remember hundreds of different players that just come and go?
By HK's own admission, he remembers exactly why he doled out every ban and mute.

>I'd believe the admins of a game over a bunch of anonymous shit-flinging retards like you on an imageboard
I'm not insinuating or claiming any special knowledge of the situation; everything I've said is based on the incongruence between HK's own statements in this exact thread and nothing else, you worthless mouthbreather.

>they have a reason to defend their work
Whose work? The original developers of FFIV, or the original developers of FFL? And to which of these groups does HK belong, if you would be so kind as to remind me?

>The fact that this thread devolved into this shit is that people like you cannot ever admit to being wrong
Glorious irony. I didn't get involved in this topic until AFTER HK posted his "version" of the story (i.e. "he broke the rules (but I won't specify which ones no matter how relevant that is) and I don't care about whiners")
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>>2913645
>you behave like a fucking child and start digging up information and sharing it with people in an attempt at ad hominem and more
Yeah, not everyone who sees a shithead for a shithead is the same person out to malign your favorite fanny pounder. Like I said, all my criticisms are based on HK's own statements in this fucking thread, you stupid faggot.

>I know I wouldn't be able to possibly convince you because you've been a cunt all throughout this thread, but god damn, you're a fucking idiot, anon
It's quite clear that you're conflating a few different posters together.

>Saying the game is open source isn't a lie.
You don't know what open source means, so please keep your mouth shut about things which you clearly know nothing about.

>You just attacked someone making a game in their free time
Awww, did I hurt the poor wittle HK's feewlwings? Gee, I hope he doesn't WHINE about other people's sense of right and wrong.

But it is quite nice of you to stroke his ego AND cock with your slavering mouth as you utterly miss the irony of situation.

>I sure hope you're proud of yourself, anon, for ruining a good thing.
If FFR were actually open source, nothing would be ruined by one prima donna's hurt feelings over the fact that there are actually people in this world who will judge him for being a hypocritical and pompous little shit.

Hey, you are free to flatter, caress, and fellate him until you're blue in the face, but otherwise do shut your mouth as you clearly don't have any thoughts in your head worth sharing with anyone who doesn't have your nose halfway up their colon.
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>>2913597

Samefagging / shilling and e-celeb shit go hand in hand. I really wish Hiro would slap all boards with forced anonymous + post IDs to crack down on it.

As it stands, attaching signatures or avatars to your post is against the global rules. Why isn't forced anonymous a thing for the same reason? More often than not, the only people who use tripcodes are just trying to draw attention to themselves and hijack the thread into their own personal circlejerk.

And then there's this godawful abomination of a thread that should have been deleted days ago. What the fuck happened to /vr/'s janitors?
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>>2913729
>>2913734
No, you just think that your own sense of justice is absolute and that you can't possibly do wrong. You constantly have to resort to insults only because you have no actual ground to stand on to back your argument at all, except for saying "WELL MY OPINION IS" -- except, whoops, your opinion doesn't actually fucking matter unless you're the dude that got banned! You keep telling me to suck admin dick, for example, but you've got banned retard dick jammed so far up your own ass, why should anyone care for your opinion?

The fact of the matter is, a majority of the posters in the thread would say that you're wrong, it's because they enjoy the game, not because they have HK's dick in their collective mouths. You are deluded because you can't possibly think that your opinion is wrong on this scale despite the fact there's mountains of evidence against you that people just legitimately enjoy the game, players, or people behind it. You see nothing wrong with ruining an experience for 50 different people just because you think you're right. When your opinion didn't count for shit, you resorted to doxxing someone over a fucking online video game so that you could get some attention. That is some /b/-level shit.

At the end of the day, even regardless of everything I said above and no matter who gets the last post before this thread 404s, people will read this in an archive and admit that you were a piece of shit that ruined a good game because you're a salty little child that didn't get his way.
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>>2913597
I honestly don't give a flying fuck about HK. What I really give a flying fuck about is the fact that some whiny basement dwelling shit stain had to throw a fucking fit and ruin something cool.

Damn near the entire thread was on topic and civil/informative until Dythos (possibly? probably?) and his flock came in here to foul everything up. Hell, even the shit talking was just fine, but one of you faggots had to take things 10 steps over the line and dig up personal info of a guy who was just trying to provide a free fucking service for people to enjoy... 99% of which were able to get along with him just fine.

HK may very well have been a giant asshole. I really don't know, but from what I saw he seemed decent enough. Which is probably the opinion of a vast majority of people in game. Then there's the opinion of the minority (raging taint stain that got banned and his own group of cock suckers) that he's the scum of the earth and deserves getting tracked down and possible legal bullshit. Wonder which of those opinions is more grounded in reality.
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Isn't one of the general rules something along the lines of if you wouldn't say it in a public setting you shouldn't talk about it in a public chat either. The rules of the server were never specific due to it being impossible to cover everything to justify the random shit people can come up with. The way I interpreted it is if my job would be on the line for saying it I should probably just not. HK and the staff actually didn't impose a harsh environment people actively disagreed with him and he never muted or banned for it as far as I could remember. I read through this thread and while hk was talking you never pointed out that he supposedly dodged a question till he left. Are you certain he dodged it? I think it's obvious how he broke the rules on the server. An abortion joke is not something you'd tell to your fellow workers and boss in most jobs without being asked to leave.
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Im really going to miss playing with you guys. Im gone for a few days and come back to this fucking shit. Most importantly no more cookie!!
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>>2913337
but it's not, you incredible asshole. how can't you see that?
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I don't suppose anyone has a link to said open sauce.

this thread is depressing now.
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>>2913015
It has been fun indeed.

Too bad this whole thing had to happen. And during the season I had free time nonetheless.
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>Look, Ma! I made this thing in RPG Maker! That makes me a big time video game developer!
>Why aren't more people signing up and showering me in praises?!
>M-muh feelings!
>You aren't allowed to be anything but completely nice to me because I'm autistic!

This thread is literally autism in the clinical definition of the term. If you guys are this hypersensitive and are going to throw a fit over incredibly stupid shit, then it's probably in your best interest not to have Internet access in the first place. I can assure you, there are far meaner communities than /vr/ out there, and they will quickly shred your autistic ego to bits.


Of course, all of this could simply be an incredibly dedicated troll at work. Whatever the case, good riddance to this POS thread.
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>>2913980
This game has dealt with the /vr/ community before. The owner has already established that you can disagree with him and doesn't get hurt about it. How does this make him butt hurt or autistic? Do you just barely read something and be like yup game dev is an idiot. You come off as being more hypersensitive then he does.

Second this isn't even throwing a fit, HK left simply walking away is not throwing a fit. It's not stupid to react to someone potentially doxing you even if so far it's fairly minor. This was getting a bit more serious then just a video game but diving into personal attacks and trying to get some personal information on someone.

I've never seen HK once claim this game was more then what it was. I'm not sure where you think any of that nonsense makes sense. Where did HK say praise me or his feeling or force you to be nice to him? Did you read any of the evidence that clearly points in the opposite direction of any of these statements?

Troll harder bro or if you're not trolling try actually reading.
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>>2913938
OMg Tsuki did you not abandon us afterall?
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>>2914030
Nah im not Tsuki
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For what it's worth, a lot of times, friends made through communities like this can last a long time. As some of you know, I originally came to this game from /v/ with a big group of people. I made friends with who I played with in my party and I still have contact with them to this day, though we don't speak often - Rev, Stoolco and Juno - they're still good friends to me. Even after they quit, I stuck around and made friends with a lot more people that I still talk to every once in a while. A couple years down the road, I met HK and I started codeveloping with him, while we bounced ideas off each other and tested way cool shit. I speak for both him and myself that, while what happened was unfortunate, it was a really fun ride, seeing players enjoy the work we put in, develop strategies for bosses we never even thought of, and do things we never even thought possible. YOU GUYS are awesome. Thanks for that. Maybe you've met people you still talk to even though the game is gone, and stuff like that is what really matters. This is my last post in the thread, as it's close to its death - but I'm sure our paths will cross in some form or another someday. - szenny
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Dhythos here. It's unfortunate that infighting over an old issue between Michael and myself caused this. I know half the community believes I'm entirely at fault for this. I'd like to clear the air as this thread has just been brought to my attention.

I was well liked by my friends and hated by those I didn't get along with. There was never a middle ground. My enemies in the game were Fuu, Cres, Szen, God and Rueben. These five people accounted for 99% of my drama and conflict prior to my ban. It's only after my ban that half the community denounced me. I understand why, I threatened the server. The thing was it was a conditional threat and HK had to be unreasonable as the sole condition. Once he called me on it, I had to do it and I did report the old server. I would have never done it had he not immediately resorted to the "he'll show me ban." I had well over 20 friends on the server, which was a lot considering our population. I'll rattle them off name by name if anyone would like.

I believe the main issue here is that I was perm muted without violating a rule. That is very true. I told an abortion joke during a time others were world saying abortion jokes. Mine was not the least bit offensive, but Szenkar used is as a chance to issue a no warning perm mute. HK and I couldn't come to terms on the issue and he threatened to perm ban me for making him look like a hypocrite. I only did so by quoting him directly, so the truth is he made himself a hypocrite and the ban threat did not help. I felt very threatened and responded with a situational threat of my own only for this specific instance. He called me on it knowing that I had no interest in escalating things and only wanted peace. He escalated the conflict at the time. This was all a long time ago.
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>>2914369

In the present, I did not ask for anything that happened here today. Had this come to my attention earlier, I'd of just made peace with HK. I do regret my past decision when I reported the server, but I had never thought HK would put me in the position where I had to do it or have bluffed. I'm a keep my word kind of person. This game matters a lot more than it should to a lot of people and it's a shame to see it go.

I DO NOT WANT TO RETURN TO THE COMMUNITY. The way people turned against me out of the blue when HK banned me is something that I will never forget. Most of these people were fond of me prior to the incident, regardless of what they say now. If a server ever reappears and I become aware of it, I am willing to release every icon I ever made for general use.

The point on here I was most impressed with is that my brother suffered unfairly. When the whole brother issue was created by Szenkar, I immediately offered to get on Skype and show we were both playing in the same room that very moment. He ridiculed me in wsay as a liar and refused to allow me to show him I wasn't. That is what lead to the "vehement arguing" and our falling out. He started a pointless, long winded rant rather than just fairly letting me solve the issue. That is also what lead to my per mute.

In the end, I don't hate HK. I would harm Szenkar on sight IRL without hesitation if I ever had the chance. That's a fact. I hope you guys get a server again one day and it's free of Szenkar. I guarantee you I won't be there.

None of this had to happen and it never should have occurred. It's just a shame that an issue this big happened over something so small. I can say this, I played FFL from the time Behemoth was the final boss near Kaipo. It always returns.
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>>2914369
>>2914378
you're retarded. he even said in his posts that you were a disruptive asshole that harassed other players. we all know that you did it, too. just admit it.

>>2913934
See this post. you were right to get muted. fuck off. I'd rather have admins that help players and are maybe an asshole every once in a while than a worthless piece of trash like you play the game
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>>2914378
>Wanting to harm someone for real over an online game
You DO have problems. Wow.
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>>2914369
>>2914378
How sad would it be if he's actually telling the truth about this most recent shutdown. That one of his pals may have been responsible. That even though over a year has passed, but they had to screw everyone over because of what amounts to them having little more than having one less person to play with. Or maybe saddest of all it could've been one or more of the shit posting ITS NOT RETRO/THIS GAME SUCKS guys who tried the game and didn't like it. This is 4chan after all.
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>>2914404
I have nothing to "just admit." I argued with players who argued with me. I didn't approach players at random to harass them. It takes two to argue at a minimum.

It was not right to mute me. The opinion of a few should not influence the rules of conduct in the game itself. Szenkar had no reason to mute me. He was present for the foul jokes prior to my joke and did nothing to those players. The second I made my lesser joke, he issued the mute. A real admin would have ended the tasteless discussion if he had an issue with it. He had no issue with the discussion what so ever, but a personal issue with me. I think that was covered well on the thread.

I am disliked for my actions after an unjust ban. I understand the hate I get for that. It's valid. When HK issued the ban, I became vengeful. I went on the war path because of the nature of the ban. I was unreasonable at that point for the next week. I certainly did no service to myself during that time. I've stated I regret that course of action. There's nothing else I can say on that subject.
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>>2914574
the opinion of the few? more like the opinion of the majority... it's too little too late now to save the game, so it doesn't matter either way. your real choices now are to try to bury the hatchet and try to at least talk to one another one-on-one (only a total asshole would refuse) or just leave everything as is and hate each other forever. not my call.

you were still wrong to make an abortion joke, that's not a cool topic. whether or not an admin used that as a tool to mute you after what he says was justified due to your constant harassment or a personal vendetta doesn't matter at this point because the game is dead based on the actions you two chose - especially you, for threatening to take down the game. that's not the way you tell an admin you really want to talk to them about what you did and that you wanted to receive an unmute. nowhere here did I see you appeal to the admin that banned you, just to the owner.

fix it, or don't. ball's in your court. game's dead regardless, but maybe it'll make one or more of you feel better.
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>>2914369
>>2914378
So wait, you're the reason the server went offline? I'm not sure I care how justified you were, you ruined the game for everyone. Is that really so different to the kid who flips the Monopoly board when he doesn't get his way?

I hope you realise how remarkably selfish you sound, granted I'm not privy to all the drama but harming the server as a way to get to Szen is just so childish from my perspective. I think if the server does come back it'll have even less of a community, so you essentially buried the entire game single-handedly, that's an impressive accolade in a weird sort of way.
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Whoever caused this shitstorm. I hope you die of cancer soon. I wanted to play this and now I can't. Fuck you.
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Bass/Choleta/Sage In Every Field here. Figured now that the thread is dying, I'd throw out a last post.

To everyone who helped me pass content, to everyone I helped pass content. To those who grinded items with me, to those who grinded levels with me. To those who used to sit in the old chat room and bullshit endlessly. The community was, in some ways, worth more than the game. You'll be sorely missed.

I don't know how much BYOND I'll be using without this around, but as has been said so many times before, this game never dies for good. That's my hope at least. If someone dons the mantle, great. More power to you. If you want my lame ass around, by all means throw me a friend invite. I figure the more people we connect together through BYOND, the easier it'll be to get a new base going if the "Legacy" continues.

Wouldn't be right of me not to end with a bad pun, after all. Gotta appeal to my fan Bass after all. Stay awesome.
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Since the thread's dying, I'll d the same as Teshlun above. Mahjong/Kuja here. I was always sort of just "around" and not particularly known or anything. I played FFR back when it was FFL sometimes, but didn't really get into it until the /vr/ threads in 2014 and even then I went about my business quietly.

But still, it was a blast. You guys are great. I was having a lot of fun getting back into it, even managed to bring in a buddy and the last thing I was able to do was hang around with Fargreze and his friend. Shame we didn't get to march through the game, man.

Let me know if this game manages to crawl out of its grave once again. I'll see you all around sometime, maybe.
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>>2913767
You could actually respond to the things I've said, not the things you think I said. I haven't doxxed anyone. Moron, figure it out, there is more than one person in the world that disagrees with you. If you remove all the insults in my post, you'd see that you're still ignoring every substantial point I've made. I've never had any personal interaction with Dythos, nor should I need to in order to criticize an administrators actions, you servile cock gobbler. Your appeal to the people who enjoy the game has nothing to do with how an admin handles people he disagrees with.

>>2913838
>but one of you faggots had to take things 10 steps over the line and dig up personal info of a guy who was just trying to provide a free fucking service for people to enjoy
Please direct your complaints to them, not me. Like I said, I don't have any personal experience with Dythos, but what I do know about the situations is what HK himself has posted (and partially deleted) in this. exact. thread. If the only thing you can contribute to the conversation is vague Either/Or generalizations about what each "camp" you imagine stands for (hint: we good, them baaad), then spare us your tantrum.

>>2913934
>workplace decorum and video game public chat should be identical
I think just about everyone except you would rather pass on a politically correct hugbox environment.
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>>2915232
this is what your post may as well have said:
>I'm dumb and can't admit to being wrong even though everyone tells me I am
fuck off already anon, go back to slobbering over retardcock. I'll be over here having fun playing a game because I'm not a crybaby that has to have their way all the time
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>>2915257
You first ; )
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>>2914620
>you were still wrong to make an abortion joke, that's not a cool topic.
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>>2915414
You first.
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>>2915232

We have responded to the things you've said. You claim HK avoided answering questions but you were trying to get him to speak after he stated bluntly that he wouldn't respond anymore due to people starting to pose as him. And even so someone answered the question already. You're playing ignorant here for some reason and can't seem to see that.

A work place decorum is not a "hugbox" environment. I don't knoww here you get this idea from. The world channel was very much not hugbox the pastebin posted in this thread clearly shows that HK was challenged with on several occasions and not once banned or muted for it. Explain how this suddenly is a hugbox? You are straw manning the argument so badly you don't even realize it.

Here's the simple facts:

Dhythos made a public abortion joke which is not something you would joke about in a public setting. Say it to your boss and odds are you'll be fired.
Dhythos tried to appeal it and it didn't work. Dhythos may also have been or had gotten aggression from szen prior and others may of been doing it with Dhythos but this does not mean you should chime in. Just cause someone is doing it doesn't mean you have to.
Dhythos went to HK who checked on the mute. The mute was justified he made a distateful joke in public but agreed a perma-mute was too much.
Dhythos still not happy that he's muted threw a tantrum against HK trying to quote "something" to make him look like a hypocrite.
HK got irritated with Dhythos and told him if he did it again he'd ban him.
Dhythos retaliates by trying to bring down the server threatening to tattle to SE.

Dhythos has a justified Ban as far as HK is concerned. Maybe Szen went too far with the quad-keying accusation but Dhythos still never should've attacked HK for a clearly justified mute and we still don't know what he was quoting to make HK seem like a hypocrite.

If something wasn't answered then ask it now before this thread goes away. I'm sure there's an answer for it.
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>>2914369
Dhythos this is where your starting to clearly show how bad you are at lying. No one refers to HK by his first name. No one. The fact that you would shows that you are likely the person in this thread the entire time and was doxing him and you're still being a smug prick about it in literally the second sentence you revealed who you are. Don't fucking act innocent, you're clearly a self-entitled ass that needs to just go away already. I highly doubt anyone likes you at this point and no one wants to see you again in this community. Do us all a favor and go away.
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>>2915742
Worst point ever. Dhythos tried to dox HK in the horror thread a year ago and never got anything beyond his name. Tried and failed to get anything. HK was right properly doxed in this thread by someone that knew wtf they were doing. Resume your hate and focus it properly.
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>>2915742
I almost forgot. We don't know if any of them are or are not Dhythos. We don't know if they all are Dhythos. This board is anonymous. Keep that in mind. I doubt he did the Dox regardless as he's incompetent.
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>>2915727
No. The first request for him to explain what rule was broken was >>2908817, well before he stopped posting and prior to other posts that he responded to.

>You are straw manning the argument so badly you don't even realize it.
I'm pointing out how idiotic it is to expect that people talk in a PC manner consistent with a shitty office job terrorized by a corporate HR department. People don't play public online games to be just as restricted in thought and speech as they are at their shitty jobs, ESPECIALLY a game with a large 4chan user base. More importantly, a joke about fictional creatures doesn't break any of the rules that were posted. That seems to be the rather crucial point that you can't fathom. And if what Dythos said in this thread about HK preaching about fair and objective implementation of the rules is correct, then the abortion jokes made prior to Dythos' should have earned permanent mutes as well, but they didn't. That is what is known as hypocrisy. Look it up, since it seems to be a concept beyond you.

Here's the simple facts:
You're a fucking moron.
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>>2915839

The question has been answered by someone else if HK avoided it as you claim then so be it. But he's not here to answer it now so you're beating a dead horse.

>I'm pointing out how idiotic it is to expect that people talk in a PC manner consistent with a shitty office job terrorized by a corporate HR department.

This just proves how ignorant you are of the situation in general in FFR. You need to realize Dhythos was ONE shit head banned a year ago yet no futher incidents have happened since or even much before. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

>People don't play public online games to be just as restricted in thought and speech as they are at their shitty jobs, ESPECIALLY a game with a large 4chan user base

Say this type of shit in other mediums and see how long it lasts you till you're banned. No excuse of.. "I'm from 4chan" will excuse you from being a total ass. This game wasn't even made for 4chan the staff as far as I'm aware never published the game on 4chan players did. You are baseless.

>More importantly, a joke about fictional creatures doesn't break any of the rules that were posted.

By fictional we're talking about non-existent fetus' right? Still tasteless say it in front of your boss unless you're claiming to be the 1% special snowflake that is infallible and would never get fired or removed from a location for slinging it around.

>then the abortion jokes made prior to Dythos' should have earned permanent mutes as well

HK has made it a point that he doesn't staff anymore, he will step in if he had to but he doesn't go about muting people or banning people unless he has to. The other people making those abortion jokes should've been handled by the staff online at that time. HK was only there because Dhythos appealed to him and HK himself STATED you idiot that the perma mute was likely what he disagreed and that Dhythos didn't want that, he wanted absolute immunity.

Here's the simple facts.

You are baseless
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>>2915821

You're still wrong, No one refers to HK by his first name, not even his codeveloping owner Szen does this. Dhythos is clearly being a smug asshole about what he's done and STILL after a year of being gone and suddently return to randomly call someone by their first fucking name when you knew them much longer as an online alias HK is fucking near zero. Don't play dumb, whether you're Dhythos trying to defend himself or one of his friends trying to cover a flaw anyone can see. Dhythos is obviously doxing too it doesn't matter if anyone else is also trying to Dox HK as well because it's plain as day obvious Dhythos is doing it in tandem or getting his friends to do it too.
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>>2913059
>>2913083
Please find me again if the game restores itself. Smoking Swan on Steam, won't be that name for very long after this
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>>2915825

Dhythos has never been the brightest crayon. You can see the lies by what I posted. You are more then likely trying to help cover up tracks to avoid suspicion of who is doing the doxing. I will state to you the same thing I I stated originally. No one has ever used HK's first name in game. Dhythos doesn't know HK by his first name except through doxing. They got along does not equal first name basis buddies in game. The pastbin shows him referring to HK by HK. Do you honestly expect me to believe someone would remember someones name after being gone this long after only looking him up once? Absolute BS re-reading this thread could've definitely jogged his memory sure but he still wouldn't refer to HK by name cause he doesn't know him like that. In his follow up conversation he reverts to referring to him as HK cause that's what's natural and obviously easier to do. He made it a show to state him by first name cause he's being a smug little weasle.
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>>2915232

Quite a few posts were deleted, it's more then likely that no one intentionally deleted anything.
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>>2915902
Never said it wasn't smug. Just said it doesn't prove he Doxed him successfully. I believe he's incapable of it. There's no cover up idiot. You keep switching between smug, and conspiracy theorist. I would love to know which player you are so I can mute you in any future version of the game from my window asap.
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>>2915869
>The question has been answered by someone else if HK avoided it as you claim then so be it.
Yeah? Where? All you idiots have basically said is "he deserved it" without actually referencing either of the server rules. That's not answering the question, retard.

>But he's not here to answer it now so you're beating a dead horse.
I see you really, truly don't understand the concept of hypocrisy.

>Say this type of shit in other mediums and see how long it lasts you till you're banned.
Just because you only frequent close-minded circle jerks, doesn't mean everyone else does. I don't spend my free time anywhere that punishes people for saying anything remotely politically incorrect like an abortion joke about Yoshis.

>the staff as far as I'm aware never published the game on 4chan
But both of the staff involved in the incident just happen to frequent the FFR threads on 4chan, including this one?

>You are baseless.
You are mentally challenged.

>Still tasteless say it in front of your boss
Good thing I don't play video games with my boss. That's a pretty central component to one of the points I'm making.

>or removed from a location for slinging it around.
I don't know where you live, but I live in a country where it is illegal to remove someone from a public place for making jokes of ANY subject matter, let alone video game species.

>he wanted absolute immunity.
Neither HK nor Dythos have said anything remotely like that. HK simply claims the mute was justified (it wasn't) and rather wisely fled before having to answer any questions about what other jokes were being made the day that Dythos was permamuted or what specific rule was broken. It was a clear case of an admin far overstepping the rules out of personal vendetta, and HK's claim to being a fair and objective administrator of said rules is putrid hypocrisy to anyone that can put two and two together (clearly not talking about you at this point).

You are retarded.
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>>2915915

You're just blind to the truth of what's been said. You're redirecting and making it seem like "oh anyone could've done it" yeah sure but the one person with a clear hatred for the owner and staff the one who openly admits that he would attack szen irl is not the one doing a basic doxing which was just googling his key? I may look like a conspiracy theorist to you but the evidence is written all over Dhythos' post. I'm not "making shit up" the post is literally right there go and read it. Is there a possibility I'm wrong? No shit, but I'm playing by the odds and odds are it's 90% likely Dhythos is the one shitting up this thread and fucking up the game worse and trying to backpedal his way into the graces of the next FFL owner. But a liar is always smug, him saying HK's name is like the equivalent of grin. This guy doesn't need to be here or anywhere. He needs to seek help cause he let's a fucking video game dictate how he treats people. He's more then likely the only doxer here and if you know who the doxer is you're likely dhythos himself playing the anon game. No one cares about a video game this small that much but someone like Dhythos that would risk a more successful dox.
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>>2915927
You're sounding crazy on and off. I'm not pro Dhythos or anti HK. I'm just neing objective. You're acting like you're the champion of FFR and surrounded by enemies that are all the same guy. You may be too involved in this emotionally. Relax.
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>>2915924

>Yeah? Where?

The referenced rules is a general statement that if you wouldn't say it in front of someone you shouldn't say it in world channels. It's obvious he made an abortion joke in a public channel. This is not something you would just casually mention to anyone on the street.

>Just because you only frequent...

Just because you can only get off on abortion jokes about yoshi's doesn't mean everyone else should and nor did the staff. This game wasn't meant for you and your sensibilities no where did the game state that we allow all forms of crude jokes and behaviors.

>But both of the staff...

Szen has often admitted to coming from /v/ HK has never once said anything about it and has only shown to publically speak on /vr/ or threads like this as far as I know. I don't know either one of them, but whether or not either come from here that suddenly makes it seem as if they published the game themselves here? Did you ever think to ask? I wouldn't know if they did with absolute certainty but neither seemed to show or make it a case of it.

>You are mentally challenged.
You are baseless.

>Good thing I don't play video games with my boss. That's a pretty central component to one of the points I'm making.

The point is you wouldn't say it in front of anyone without a consequence coming your way. You play games to jerk off to abortion jokes about Yoshi's clearly the staff doesn't find this amusing or jerk off worthy and don't care if this offends people of like minds like yourself.

>I don't know where you live...
I guarantee you say a joke like this at work and you'd be removed at some point. It's perfectly legal to remove someone from somewhere for being crude.

>Neither HK nor Dythos...
It's obvious what he wanted, HK has stated that he perma-mute was perhaps too far. And someone stated that Dhythos said HK "agreed with him" this is likely what they agreed about. If a perma mute was revoked what else would he be mad about? (C)
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>>2915936
The perma mute wasn't revoked in spite of agreeing it was too far. That's a serious salt maker.
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>>2915924

It's obvious he's mad at HK for still being muted and pointed at some "hypocritical" statement HK made which no one can seem to recall so who knows what was said.

He fled because people were posing as him, if you want an actual discussion with HK go find him he didn't seem to show that he wasn't willing to tango with you. If anyone is showing to be a coward to confront someone it's you.

HK showed that he's being fair by removing the perma mute based on aggression from szen, the mute itself was still justified even if you don't agree with the rule.

You are baseless and can't even do more then sling "retard" well like a retard.
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>>2915942
I'm pretty sure HK agreed the mute shouldn't last forever but refused to alter it. People need more than agreeing something is unjust from a law enforcer. They need action.
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>>2915939

And you know this how? The events seemed to happen within a day if not a few how would you at all know what was being planned or not? HK stated that he thought the perma-mute might've been what he was agreeing with Dhythos about and was probably in the process of talking to the staff about it or something but it never got there cause Dhythos through a fit that he would still be muted for the incident.

This shit seemed to happen fast enough no one had time to think. Dhythos admits to flying off the handle for a week even after he was banned. No one had time to cope with it.
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>>2915942
Let's all have an actual discussion on byond in a chat. I'll show mine if everyone else involved shows theirs.
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>>2915946
I read the thread? I read the old threads a year ago during all the raging? I have eyes?
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>>2915947

I wouldn't show myself in this thread. With what happened to HK I would rather create a brand new key and stay away from any form of doxing.
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>>2915742
What if you're HK and Szen and everyone else but me is Dhythos? What if the players posting their good byes are all fake? I imagine you standing faceless in your back yard screaming Dhythos into the night sky before mass murdering random people that could be Dhythos
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>>2915949

Then what was going on with someone claiming HK agreed with Dhythos then. What was agreed on or about? Why was Dhythos still upset if HK agreed with him? How long did the incidents take to pass?
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>>2915958

I don't care who you think I am. You can call me HK, Szen or Dhythos or any random goodbye player here. It's not about who I think you are or who you think I am. I'm not about to allow some troll to dox me for amusement.
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>>2915959
The idea that it should not be a mute that never ends was agreed. Amending the mute as a resolution was not agreed on. It's my understanding that shit erupted over the original decision standing in full while it was agreed upon to be a poor decision situationally. I'm willing to bet that if a judge in a court of appeals told you that you were sentenced harshly and outside the limits of the law you would rejoice. If the judge went on to uphold the prior and lesser judges verdict to not hurt the lesser judges feelings, you may have an issue. Judges don't like issues that question rulings. Best anaology I have. Dhythos was a shit stain after the fact and tried to end FFR. That shoild be the focus of opposing the guy being sympathetic. The other guy arguing with you takes issue with how HK held court.
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>>2915936
>The referenced rules is a general statement that if you wouldn't say it in front of someone you shouldn't say it in world channels.
Not everyone shares your judgements for what is or is not offensive, which is why there is a perfectly practical "ignore" function in the chat engine. Handing out a permamute for a joke not meant to offend anyone reeks of personal vendetta, which isn't contradicted by anything the (former) GM has himself said (>>2909774)

>Just because you can only get off on abortion jokes
So you don't understand the purpose of jokes. Are you legitimately autistic?

>>But both of the staff...
They talk about it here and it's a public game. If Yoshi abortion jokes are too racy for your community, don't talk about it here. In fact, you shouldn't even come here at all.

>The point is you wouldn't say it in front of anyone without a consequence coming your way.
Are you fifteen? You don't seem to have any experience with the world outside of your bible school. I've had bosses make jokes 100 times more offensive than the one at question. You're also not addressing Dythos' uncontested claim that much more offensive abortion jokes where made that day that the staff had no problem with.

>I guarantee you say a joke like this at work and you'd be removed at some point.
Never worked a day in your life, have you? The first joke you make that crosses someone's boundaries will earn you a stern talking to from HR, not immediate termination.

>It's obvious what he wanted, HK has stated that he perma-mute was perhaps too far.
How dumb can you be? Put two and two together; you're even putting the statements right next to each other. If the permamute was too far (AND groundless according to the rules AND motivated by szen's personal vendetta) then it should have been revoked on the spot. Not only wasn't it revoked, it was escalated to a ban when Dythos threatened to make a mockery of HK's claim to fair and objective administration of the rules.
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>>2915962
This whole mess is so convoluted. I'm going to make a flow chart/time line fusion of this entire mess tomorrow after noon that will encompass every claim both parties made. Something has to end this debate and make it clear and easy to follow in full.
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>>2915968

>Not everyone shares...

Then obviously you can't read. Handing out the parmamute was being worked on as HK and some other guy stated that it seemed HK agreed with the "unjust" permamute that was established. It doesn't mean dhythos didn't deserve to be muted only that a permanent one was not good.

>So you don't understand...
Just because you get off on something doesn't mean everyone does. The staff are there to enforce the rules, they found your joke in poor taste you deserved to be muted. It's the same with performing endless racist jokes at a pub. They'll take you off the stage and you ain't coming back.

>Are you fifteen?
Are you? I'm not the one calling someone the basic of insults like I was in a school playground.

> You don't seem...
I don't think you do. Whether your boss makde jokes a million times more offensive doesn't make it any more appealing to say it to the general public. I'm sorry you lack the ability to grasp this. Also can you not read? I stated the staff as in szen should've handled EVERYONE at the time of the mute. I couldn't be any more clear. Try reading next time.

>Never worked a day in your life, have you?
I legitimately doubt you realize the seriousness of this type of joke. I don't know exactly what was said, just know it was an abortion joke, he could've gotten a slap on the wrist or "stern" talking to you as you put it. He also easily could've been fired depending on company policy. Nice try to avoid this though you have only one job in your life or something?

>How dumb can you be? Put two and two together;
No no buddy, HK said the PERMA mute was too far. He didn't say the mute wasn't. Nice try though. The permanent part was likely a vendetta from Szen the actual mute was clearly justified and HK was likely going to do something about it till Dhythos spit in his face cause he wanted the full immunity.
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>>2915981
So all arguing parties but Szen now agree Szen had a vendetta. You just strengthened the arguments against your stance in the matter.
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>>2915981
Where and when did Dhythos ever ask for full immunity? You're missing a major point. His appeals judge HK found the sentence did not fit the crime. HK made no adjustment and chose inaction rather than amending the sentence. The entire argument Dhythos has consistently made on threads from then to now is HK didn't want to over rule Szenksrs decision. He agreed it was wrong but would not act. We as a society cannot expect a higher judge to recognize a biased injustice and do nothing about it. Letting you know you were wronged but it will stand is spitting in Dhythos face. The guy spit back and HK spit ban venom. Dhythos then breathed fire all over the community in a childish fit of rage.

Had HK opted to talk to Szenkar in private and alter the punishment, there wouldn't have been any of the drama that followed. This does not make Dhythos lashing out right. It just shows why he went ape shit and slung dung like a savage.
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>>2915984

If I were Szen, I would think I'd have the know how to realize I condemned myself. But you'll believe what you want to believe, makes no difference to me.

Care to explain how I strengthened the arguments against his stance on the manner? Everyone here seems to think that Szen had a vendette against Dhythos on his quad-keying the only person to deny this is szen and HK never seemed to acknowledge it outright though hinted at it when he stated the perma mute was unjust.

The quad-keying thing seemed to be what broke the rift between them but there's other statements that state Dhythos was being a dick to everyone prior to that and getting on the staffs nerves. I don't know which happened first but clearly szen and dhythos don't like each other.

In fact the evidence seems to suggest that for a brief moment however brief it was HK was planning to talk to Szen about the perma mute business, but because Dhythos couldn't handle the fact that he would remain muted for still being a dick awhile longer and chose to instead spit on HK's face this never seemed to occur. If anything Dhythos doing what he did helped Szen avoid being talked to about the incident.
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>>2915993

HK did make an adjustment it just wasn't what you want it to be which seems to be a full on pardon. If HK and Dhythos agreed that a perma mute was unjust then what the hell could Dhythos be mad about? Oh I know it's likely that HK agreed Dhythos SHOULD BE MUTED just not permanently and Dhythos also wanted a full pardon like you think he seemed to deserve one.

The adjustment appeared to be however brief it was that HK would remove the permanent affect of the mute but not the mute itself cause he deserved to be muted for the tasteless joke in public.

There doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support that HK said he wouldn't act. In fact it's likely that HK said he wouldn't act after Dhythos already got angry that he wouldn't be getting a pardon and HK was reacting to Dhythos irritation and it only escalated from there.

Dhythos WAS wrong you need to get that through your head. He clearly broke a rule. He deserved the mute and HK was / seemed wiling as far as I've read in this thread that permanent was not good. Dhythos not only started it but egged it on cause he felt he deserved a full pardon and still does. Just read his thread he openly admits to making an abortion joke but still felt it wasn't right cause no one else got picked on. I'd compare this in real life to cops breaking in on a underage party with drinking. The people got caught are upset no one else got caught and demand to be freed of any responsibility for what happened. Would this fly to you? No it wouldn't, the cops would still punish those they did catch and wait another day for the others. This was a perfectly reasonable response by HK.
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>>2915981
>anding out the parmamute was being worked on
HK refused to lift the mute, you moron. Read the fucking thread; he never once claimed otherwise or stated it was excessive, which segues well into the next issue...

>The staff are there to enforce the rules
Which is exactly where the real problem lies: Dythos broke no rules. All two of the server rules amounted to 1. No spamming and 2. No harassing. There were no rules against "offensive language" or "poor taste", and I'm sure most players would agree that there was plenty of both going unpunished (as it should have been, for Dythos included).

>they found your joke in poor taste you deserved to be muted.
I'm not Dythos, who has already said his peace on the subject in this thread. Take some time to read it before you continue to respond.

>It's the same with performing endless racist jokes at a pub
Two serious problems with this analogy: first, racist jokes are punished because they directly malign real groups of people. Yoshi jokes fail in this regard. Second, making "endless" offensive jokes is not a fit comparison to being permamuted for (according to ALL parties involved) making one remark.

>Also can you not read? I stated the staff as in szen should've handled EVERYONE at the time of the mute.
Yeah, if he were applying the rules fairly. He didn't, which is why the mute demonstrates personal vendetta and is thus an abuse of power that should have been reversed.

>Whether your boss makde jokes a million times more offensive doesn't make it any more appealing to say it to the general public.
The issue is being permamuted for an innocuous comment about Yoshis that violated no rules.

>I legitimately doubt you realize the seriousness of this type of joke. I don't know exactly what was said,
Why the fuck is your mentally handicapped ass arguing with me when you haven't even read the thread?
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>>2916004
I'm done being nice. You are a FUCKING IDIOT. Last time I repeat myself.

Dhythos makes friends and enemies.

Dhythos loses friend Szenkar to a dispute over quad keying.

Dhythos tells abortion joke during abortion joke barrage on Wsay.

Szenkar perma mutes only Dhythos because of a vendetta.

HK and Dhythos agree the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

HK then denies to modify the perma mute in any way shape or form. (Just knowing HK sympathizes with Dhythos will need to be enough to endure the perma mute forever. Szen has feelings and can't be told bad decision.

Dhythos feels that's unfair.

HKs friendship with Szenkar leads to a choice of complete inaction standing and anger for wanting action.

Dhythos produces quote about fairness and leadership made by HK.

HK threatens ban over being called a hypocrite.

Dhythos threatens report if ban occurs for that reason.

HK bans. (Says this is to protect the community.)

Dhythos reports.

Storm of shit floods the lands.

The community now views Dhythos as a traitor because he did follow through and go to Square. (He is a traitor.)

A year passes.

/vr/ shit posting. Questions emerge again.

The community debates the original issue since the veil of hate over traitor actions isn't the sole focus any longer.

HK closes server.

Now.
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>>2916012

>HK refused to lift the mute,
Perhaps you need to read it. There's evidence to suggest otherwise if you disagree then fine but only HK could tell you exactly what he meant or even remembers.

>Which is exactly where the real problems..
Again with this? Are we gonna go around and round with you? I'll state it plainly, the abortion joke was breaking the rules. Plain as day. You may not agree with it but it's not up to you it's up to the staff. You might not like any law in the country pick one but you still have to follow it or consequences. I don't care what you think about the rule the rule is there he broke it we don't need to go over this again.

> I'm not Dythos...
I didn't say you were the statement was a general one if you felt threatened by it I can't help you.

>Two serious problems with this analogy
Yeah tell abortion jokes and see how this works out. No one is talking about yoshi jokes we're talking about an abortion joke. Unless you somehow know that Dhythos' abortion joke was about yoshi's or something which again this happened a year ago how would you even know that without someone else especially dhythos who doesn't say what the abortion joke was about know about it? Hmmm...

>Yeah, if he were applying the rules fairly.
We already established the permanent part of the mute was personal vendetta. The regular mute was not. Keep going in circles here...

>The issue is being permamuted for ...
Oh wow, so you do seem to recall the abortion joke was about yoshi' which no one else in this thread has once mentioned or brought up not even the one claiming he was Dhythos. Something is fishy about you, you sure you're not Dhythos now I'm actually suspicious.

>Why the fuck is your mentally...
Back to school ground insults I see. I notice you do this when you got nothing better to say.I've read the thread no one has talked about Yoshi's not even Dhythos images perhaps but no one explained what they were about you weird one.
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Can we try a meet up in another game maybe? Continue on with the craic?
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>>2916004
Problem is the cops caught everyone drinking under age and only punished one kid. It was the kid that the cop disliked for an unrelated reason. The punishment was also being tried as an adult and 10 x the max sentence allowed by law. The judge didn't want the cop to feel ashamed or upset that his work was questionable and backed him because they're bros off work.
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>>2916019

Resorting to insults like an immature child allow me to structure this for you better.

Dhythos makes friends and enemies.

Dhythos gets on plenty of peoples nerves staff and players alike. Causes a rift between himself and staff (specifically szenkar)

Szenkar calls out Dhythos about quad-keying. Dhythos gets mad and further divides the rift.

Dhythos makes abortion joke in wsay along with others.

Szenkar spots Dhythos and perma mutes him for a vendetta.

Dhythos argues with szen to get it appealed but fails further dividing the rift between him and szen.

Dhythos appeals to HK who looks into it and agrees with Dhythos that the perma mute is not right but the mute is.

Dhythos gets mad cause no one else is in trouble blames HK and shows some statement to make him appear as a hypocrite.

HK gets irritated with Dhythos and threatens to ban him if he does it again.

Dhythos gets mad and threatens to report to SE if he would ban him for that.

HK bans Dhythos immediately.

Dhythos reports the server to SE. Brags about it on 4chan in some thread.

Dhythos is now branded as a traitor. HK moves the server.

A year passes.

Someone posts a 4chan link.

The community debates original issue and someone doxs HK a second time.

HK fed up ends the server.

Now it's over.
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>>2915981
>HK said the PERMA mute was too far. He didn't say the mute wasn't.
Read. the. fucking. thread. HK said nothing of the sort. He stuck to guns despite the obvious hypocrisy of his stance (AND despite szen basically admitting that the permamute had nothing to do with what Dythos actually said, but with what szen thought of him), and according to Dythos, agreed in PRIVATE that the permamute was uncalled for. Publicly, he stands by the mute and refuses to reverse it.

>HK was likely going to do something about it
Read the thread, you fucking imbecile. You are assuming nonsense from what you've deduced from the bottom half or third of the conversation. If he'd agreed to reverse the permamute on Dythos, that would have been the end of the story, fucking shit-for-brains. He let the PERMAMENT mute stand, which Dythos quite reasonably had a problem with. Asking him to remove a vendetta-fueled mute is not "demanding immunity", it's asking HK to follow his own fucking rules fairly. It was a permanent mute from the get go that escalated to a permanent BAN, you stupid, lazy knob gobbler. Read the thread, or get your mommy to read it for you, THEN respond.
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>>2916026

Cops do tend to go for the person they recognize especially known troublemakers. Being tried as an adult would've been a ban not a perma mute. This is like sending a kid to juvie not prison. The judge stopped the kid from going to Juvie but sentenced him to a day in jail. Kid is mad at the judge and cop and throws a fit.
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>>2916035
Not even close. The appeal judge and judge analogy is on point. Noticed tou never attemptes to restructure that one.

I've also noticed your altered time line included assumptions you made. No party ever said Dhythos appealed to Szen before HK. Not one party involved. You made up other fake faxts in several of tour other posts as well. Beyond that you turned self drawn conclusions from mixed testimony into unchallengable facts that none of the parties claimed to be truth.

I'm going to bed. You're clouded by bias from dislike of Dhythos. You're the kind of guy that would leave a pre DNA evidence convicted rapist in jail if DNA evidence exhanurated the accused. You'd cheer and call the guy a rapist for your entire life.
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>>2916026
the po let the rich popular kids go home to mommy and daddy. they beat the one they already didnt like.
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>>2916031

> Read. the. fucking. thread.

You read the fucking thread, HK admitted to not being certain on every detail when someone pointed out that he at one point agreed with Dhythos about the mute it appeared to come back to him and spoke about how he probably agreed with Dhythos that a perma-mute was not right. Do you at all read and insinuate I don't? He stands by it now cause of everything else, did you specifically ask if in that moment of agreeing he was planning on removing the permanent aspect? I don't think this was even brought up and again HK is not here to state either way.

> Read the thread, you fucking imbecile
Seriously you're a broken record with your insults. I'm assuming nonsense? You don't feel like your own personal assumptions are getting in the way here just as much if not more? You seem angry even about this topic that isn't even about you! Perhaps you should ask yourself why this matters so much to you hrmm? Anyway to answer your response...

If he had agreed to end the permamute that would appear to be the end of the story. Did you ask Dhythos this or HK? Did either one state whether or not HK agreed to end the permamute or the mute or neither? Again pointless insults moving on... he supposedly lets the perma mute stand. I find this hard to believe, all this shit happened in a day it had to of I doubt it escalated over time or through a few days. I bet you that HK told Dhythos he would remain muted and Dhythos still flipped the fucking table before listening any further. That's my assumption on this cause nothing seems to be said about it from either just yet. My two cents. Dhythos was not reasonable in the scenario I presented cause he still deserved the mute. He's requesting a pardon from HK like a child that clearly got caught stealing but thought that because some vendetta was attached to it that he was somehow completely innocent of the rule he clearly broke. No he's still guilty the punishment just didn't fit the crime.
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>>2916038

Actually I'm spot on, this is a known fact that known trouble makers tend to be singled out. As some would say your word is everything and when you spoil that word you spoil your credibility. Is it always reliable for a cop to grab the one they recognize? Hell no, but in this case it is. I never stated that it was fair I simply stated that szen noticed him first and acted on it. Does that make him wrong? Probably. But it's not like the one he nabbed didn't still break the rules now did he? He got sentenced to years in juvie which was unjust of szen definitely so the kid appeals to another judge who says yeah you're right you don't deserve years of juvie but still you broke the law, you deserve a day in jail. At the end of the day the kid still broke the damn law, yes others got away with it at the time, no it's not fair I wasn't alluding it WAS fair. But ti's a fact of life. Just because it wasn't fair doesn't mean you are magically absolved from your own responsibilities. Nice try though, there was enough DNA evidence in this case to clearly convict Dhythos of breaking a rule he even admits to it publicly but way to straw man man.
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>>2916050
The joke broke no rule. You've invented a non existent rule and validated it based on your morality and bias for it existing. GG. YW everyone who wasted days arguing with this troll.
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>>2916020
>Perhaps you need to read it. There's evidence to suggest otherwise
He said exactly that in this thread, you fucking moron.

>Yeah tell abortion jokes and see how this works out. No one is talking about yoshi jokes
The joke is described right here: >>2895601 and neither HK, szen, nor Dythos challenged this.

>We already established the permanent part of the mute was personal vendetta. The regular mute was not. Keep going in circles here...
Yeah, because you're a fucking moron. The mute was permanent and HK has said, in this exact thread, that he stood by it, both its "permanent" aspect and its "mute" aspect, which only your degenerated brain has split into two separate aspects. HK and szen have stated otherwise, which carries infinitely more weight than your brown-nosing delusions.

>Oh wow, so you do seem to recall the abortion joke was about yoshi' which no one else in this thread has once mentioned
This isn't even the first time I've mentioned it in this comment chain with you. Are you having a stroke or something? It's been mentioned repeatedly, especially to HK who has never contradicted the claimed subject matter.

>I've read the thread no one has talked about Yoshi's
Get mommy to read the thread for you, then respond.

By the way, HK's exact words in this thread
>I don't recall ever saying the mute was unfair,
>I stand by what I said again, I didn't disagree with his mute
>I've stated in this thread and during the events that happened he was properly muted for his offense and wasting everyones time.

>You read the fucking thread, HK admitted to not being certain on every detail when someone pointed out that he at one point agreed with Dhythos about the mute it appeared to come back to him and spoke about how he probably agreed with Dhythos that a perma-mute was not right.
Link to the post, you dumb faggot. There's no point in arguing over what was said; it's all here in the thread, so link to the post where HK said what you're claiming. Imbecile.
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>>2916038

Uh HK stated that he seems to recall Dhythos trying to appeal to the GM that muted him. He wasn't sure but here's the quotes >>2901417

I assume you're talking about my listed thread? You were addressing a different comment so I wasn't sure.
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>>2916060
Says who exactly? Just cause you don't want to believe a rule exists doesn't mean it doesn't. Perhaps ask around what the rules listed were. I bet you'll find it. Not liking the rule and believing it to be nonsense to suit your own agenda? Tsk tsk.
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>>2916060
Winner.
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>>2916062

>He said exactly..
Again insults you really seem to be a one-track mind kinda fellow. There's still evidence to suggest otherwise disagree all you want there's evidence that points to both directions.

>The joke described...
Ah I see I must've glanced over this, but it's hard to say who stated it since again it's anonymous and just because HK Szen or Dythos don't deny it doesn't just make it magically true or does it?

>Yeah, because you're a...
Do you lose your temper a lot? Just curious. Moving on. You're forgetting a lot of this thread is about recalling events from a year ago, HK appears to be someone to stand by what he does and says no matter what so you may have a point. But that doesn't necessarily mean that HK had at the time felt this way it's just how he feels about it now and what he vaguely seems to remember. If only I could ask him.

>This isn't even the first time...
I honestly just like to fuck with you at this point, you seem to think I'm pointing the finger at you being Dhythos and it's kinda amusing to me being quite honest with you.

>Get mommy...
Do I even need to respond? You still sound like a child at the playground. but I did respond why I seemed to gloss over this before. The Yoshi thing just seemed too random and I didn't notice the post from some anon about a suppossed joke that was/wasn't confirmed by HK, Szen, or Dhythos.

>By the way, HK's exact words in this thread

Now see this is where it's funny. You notice how HK only says mute? You seem to be fitting in perma mute in there for him.You see how your biased is getting to you a bit? No? I'm sure you have an insult to fling my way again. HK doesn't appear to show remembering the perma mute he doesn't bring it up on his own. Could it be that he only remembers that the mute was what he was investigating and thought that's why everyone was angry? I do wonder.

>Link to the post, you dumb faggot
Ah this again, you really are so angry. The quote is in your own quote sir.
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>>2916062

And allow me to break this quote down for you.

>I don't recall ever saying the mute was unfair.
Interesting he doesn't recall a mute was unfair. He's right he wouldn't recall one, he would later recall a perma mute was unfair though.
> I stand by what I said again, I didn't disagree with his mute.
Here it is again, he only says mute, he doesn't disagree with his MUTE not perma mute. He doesn't seem to recall the perma-mute aspect of this yet but again he does later on in the thread.
>I've stated in this thread and during the events that happened he was properly muted for his offense and wasting everyones time.
Again he's still under the assumption that there wasn't a perma mute attached to it so he thinks this is why he's irritated but his memory gets jogged later. And by HK's rules he was properly muted wouldn't you know. He made an abortion joke that no one not even dhythos has confirmed what it was about but someone stating it was about yoshi's is convincing enough for you it seems. It's hard to believe what the abortion joke was about at this point without a log. Which I wonder if anyone could supply. It would settle whether or not it was about a yoshi or a human fetus. Thank you for looking up this quote. Hope I helped you realize that your bias is putting words in others mouths.
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>wall of drama

so much for good news. don't you understand you won already?
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>>2916080

Wow... that's just. Win.
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>>2916074
>There's still evidence to suggest otherwise disagree all you want there's evidence that points to both directions.
Quote said evidence. You clearly can't be relied upon for your reading comprehension. You have evidence of something? Link and quote or shut up.

>Ah I see I must've glanced over this, but it's hard to say who stated it since again it's anonymous and just because HK Szen or Dythos don't deny it doesn't just make it magically true or does it?
Retard. HK was repeatedly questioned about how a joke about Yoshis broke any rules. He responded to these posts but never contradicted the claim that the joke was about Yoshis. Stop pretending you've read the thread and read the thread.

>But that doesn't necessarily mean that HK had at the time felt this way it's just how he feels about it now and what he vaguely seems to remember.
This has nothing to do with how HK felt, it is about what he did. He didn't reverse the permanent mute, nor at any point did he claim he would, but he did escalate it to a permanent ban.

>You notice how HK only says mute?
He mentions the permanent mute right here, moron >>2909770.

>Ah this again, you really are so angry. The quote is in your own quote sir.
Link and quote or shut up.

>>2916080
>he would later recall a perma mute was unfair though.
Link and quote or shut up.
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>Page 9
>Still arguing

For fuck's sake. This shit is ridiculous and doesn't even matter. If you own a game, you don't even need a legitimate reason to ban someone. If you don't like them, it's your game, you can ban them if you want. It's not a public service that they're paying for or anything. It doesn't matter if that decision makes a few autismal basement dwellers upset. There will always be other players to come along and fill the gap. Whether or not assets are used from FF4 is irrelevant because the programming is all unique in BYOND's engine.

But hey, it doesn't matter. You won, right? The game is dead, right?
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>>2916116

>Quotes Quotes Quotes!!!!

Alright calm down.

>>2899890 - The only thread deleted it was his first post. Not sure why it was removed.

>>2901417 - He doesn't remember the perma mute.

>>2908817 \
- Some confusion here. He doesn't remember quotes from Dhythos either.
>>2909062 /

>>2909595 - He now recalls the quotes.

>>2909690 - He remembers the perma mute at this point on. Still shows confusion on what the perma-mute was about.

>>2909770 - The pastbin

>>2909774 \
- Szen's Input
>>2909780 /

>>2909806 - HK's proof he's not a tyrant. Some conjecture about Dhythos having a brother. This latter goes on for a bit.

>>2909924 - HK talks about the quad key event.

At this point it goes on about Dhythos' brother... then the doxing shit starts, then the posing and HK vanished since.

Now I can't speak for HK but I glanced over the Yoshi shit, I bet many did. No one but you apparently even talks about it again. So maybe you're the only one that noticed it or maybe no one took it seriously cause it wasn't even true.

You are mixing up the order in what he recalls put words in his mouth based on later statements of memory and accuse him in several statements of being some Admin douchebag tyrant w/e. Unless you're the one posing as him or doxing him he didn't leave cause of you. If you are well pat yourself on the back. You are a troll.
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>>2916116

Now that I gathered the quotes allow me to explain my PoV on the highlights in more detail.

>>2909770

This one is interesting, this is not longer after remembering something about a perma mute. At the end he seems to be of the mind that you describe. The perma mute was gonna stick so yay for you, you get a star.

One thing though and this seems to be crucial, he recalls that szen attaching the perma mute was on the grounds that he was a disturbance to staff and players alike. Apparantly at some point he did talk to szen about it so I was wrong there again. But the reasoning seems to still be sound. The mute was about abortions, the perma mute about his general shittyness towards the players and staff. But HK again doesn't agree this warrants a perma mute. He stated so earlier, best we can do is ask him again if his memory has cleared up cause these are contradicting.

>>2909806

The pastebin is undeniable proof that HK is not a tyrant. Not some HR nightmare as you describe or a corrupt judge. The pastebin shows him being disagreed with about the direction of the game and he never mutes or bans anyone for it. Other owners of FFR and FFL HAVE. This is why I called you baseless you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to how HK managed FFR outside this event and what was stated. You straw manned hard and fast.
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>>2916134
Don't just link, quote. None of those posts demonstrate what you're claiming.

As an example of your stupidity:
>He remembers the perma mute at this point on. Still shows confusion on what the perma-mute was about.
In fact, he has already mentioned that the mute was due to a joke in the deleted and very first post >>2899890. By >>2901417 he has already tacked "abortion" on to "joke". There is also no point whatsoever where he says anything to suggest he didn't know or remember that the mute had been a permanent one.

>>2916140
>But HK again doesn't agree this warrants a perma mute. He stated so earlier
I would say link and quote, but at this point even you're admitting that your links don't suggest what you want them to, so just shut up. (But in case you still want to argue this point, just remember: link AND quote.)

>This is why I called you baseless you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to how HK managed FFR outside this event and what was stated. You straw manned hard and fast.
>other people do worse, therefore it was okay
Just shove your nose up HK's asshole and stop posting.
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what if your mute wasn't supposed to be permanent but ended up that way because the w-say was so much more peaceful without you :^)
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>>2916147

>>In fact, he has already mentioned
No you still seem to confuse perma mute and mute as if they are one and the same. He also refers to abortions not yoshi abortions this is not admitting to the latter. He seems to take it seriously enough that it deserved the mute. I find it insanely hard to believe the joke was about Yoshi's at this point. That's what you should be asking for since you keep bringing this up. HK, Szen, and Dhythos NONE OF THEM have directly acknowledged what you are claiming. Stop with this assumption you are the only one taking it this literally. Do you honestly think Dhythos fell from grace this hard cause he made a fucking YOSHI abortion joke? You're not this stupid are you? I can't believe I had to resort to your own name calling. Until I see proof that Yoshi was the joke and not some anon on this board.

>But HK again doesn't agree this warrants..

Since you can't read...

>2909690
> Now that more of memory is jogged I may of agreed that a perma mute was unfair but the mute itself wasn't.

Happy now? He clearly states the PERMA mute was unfair at this point and later seems to talk about whether or not szen was right in doing so based on feedback from players and staff alike and the glossed over potential vendetta that he never acknowledges.
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so... One small accusation by an admin causes a player to flip their shit, and a year later, the player takes down the game a second time? and you're blaming admins for that?

huh.
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>Happy now? He clearly states the PERMA mute was unfair at this point
No, dumdum. He states he "may of agreed" but continues with his very next sentence:
>The perma mute could've been on the grounds that Dhythos was a nuisance to the player base.
He is aware the mute was permanent and he states before AND after this post that he stands by the mute and is not going to "waste his time" reversing his subordinate's decision.

>He also refers to abortions not yoshi abortions this is not admitting to the latter.
He is defending the mute. Why the fuck, other than for the convenience of your argument, would he respond to a post mentioning a joke about Yoshis without making the correction that it was actually about real people? It would strengthen his argument enormously in most people's eyes, but I guess just to spite you he neglected that point.

>I find it insanely hard to believe the joke was about Yoshi's at this point.
Because HK's cock in your mouth is affecting your ability to think objectively. There is absolutely no reason for you to question that point other than the thought process of "Noooo, MY HK wouldn't do THAT".

Any time I point out that your argument doesn't survive scrutiny, you jump to some other more ridiculous point that is supported entirely by your conviction.

>Do you honestly think Dhythos fell from grace this hard cause he made a fucking YOSHI abortion joke? You're not this stupid are you? I can't believe I had to resort to your own name calling.
Your only counter arguments at this point are purely emotional appeals to HK's character. Take the cock out of your mouth for two seconds and consider whether you have anything to argue beyond "Nah, HK's not the type to do something like that, even though he hasn't denied any part of those claims in his replies".
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HAHAHA
I've been banned for much less than this, learn to spoof hardware IDs you mong
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>this is 4chan, an abortion joke shouldn't bother you!
On 4chan, it doesn't. When in the context of people not from 4chan, you're going to have some issues
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WAIT

>>2877410
We're upset over this guy that doesn't even do anything because he has no time to? I didn't see him logged in at all the entire time I was playing. Did anyone else? If he's not even around, why does any of this even matter?
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Dhythos, if you're still reading this thread, find me through Skype and add me. I'm not hard to find. If you don't want to, that's fine too - I present this so that you and I can have an opportunity to settle our differences once and for all instead of us behaving like we're 12.

>>2916501
It's not through personal choice, though. Work keeps me pretty busy.
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>>2916120
Shut up you huge fat fuck. This is the guy who had a fat chocoboo sprite version of his irl likeness that took 4 squares.
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>>2916520
Why would anyone find or care about anon 2916520?
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>>2916208

>no, dumdum...
May of agreed still shows a person agreeing wiith at some point. We're talking about an event one year ago.
>He is aware...
Again he says mute. You still don't seem to understand that a mute and perma mute are different. You are straw manning this.

>He is defending the mute.
Again he has every reason to defend the mute. And why the fuck would you correct the abortion joke if you think it's obvious that it's not about that as well? Still waiting on real confirmation about it.

>Because HK's...
Well now you're so busy straw manning to paint HK like this demon to realize how incredible bias you are. You don't even play the game it would appear cause otherwise half the shit you said wouldn't appear to be so baseless.

>Your ownly counter..
It's a valid counter even if you don't like it. No one has yet to confirm this yoshi abortion joke. There's no log just one anon statement and maybe HK responding but not correcting it? Yeah totally makes sense it's 100% yoshi abortions! No straw man more.
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>>2916582
I don't know how to find him myself but he will know who I am.
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