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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
https://pastebin.com/hWRkxP0F

>Akala Arc Promo Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rqCBVZ6sE

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the Movie: I Choose You! [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
FINAL TRAILERS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfdL0kT2c-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcf8IZwlLc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRMf_j-Ppg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTXV8T49jLc
Ending theme promo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbjq2PNKkY

Next episode:
>SM39 - Mao the Runaway and Yareyuutan! [August 24th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM40 - Ashimari, Osyamari and the An-chor-gry Dadarin! [August 31st]
>SM41 - Dash, Dendimushi! [September 7th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
It's been pretty dull and uneventful, with the occasional good episode. Watch XY instead if you haven't.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>33346055
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SM38 RAW:
https://nyaa.si/view/950276

SM26 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_026_Farewell,_Mamane![H264_720P][6027EDE5].mkv.torrent

ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL RAW:
https://nyaa.si/view/913229

M19 RAW:
https://nyaa.si/view/882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 39 - THE RUNAWAY MAO AND YAREYUUTAN! (AUGUST 24TH)
>Mao has fought with her papa and ended up storming out of the house! She went into the forest, but got hurt and lost consciousness. Will she be able to make it safely back and make up with her papa?!

>Summary:
>Aina cafeteria is going to be on TV, and Mao is in high spirits. However, during the filming she had a fight with her papa and ended up storming out of the house?! She enters the forest, where she ends up getting injured. But then a Pokémon called Yareyuutan appears. Meanwhile, the evil clutches of the Rocket Gang descend upon Amamaiko, who went into the forest in pursuit of Mao... what will happen now?!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Mika Kanai: Kiteruguma
>Chika Fujimura: Amamaiko
>Kenta Miyake: Maopapa
>Risa Shimizu: Joy
>Asami Seto: Junsa
>Azu Sakura: Announcer
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 98 (August 27th)

THE POCKET MONSTERS ANIME PREMIUM 10 EPISODE 6 (August 27th)
>The Lizardon Valley! Till the Day we Meet Again!!

SM40 - Ashimari, Osyamari and the An-chor-gry Dadarin! (August 31st)
>One day, Satoshi and Suiren meet the Pokémon Osyamari, which is giving magnificent performances at the beach, as well as its Trainers. The Trainers tell them they're a people called the "Seafolk", who travel the oceans of the entire world, and that they've come here in search of a ship that sunk long ago here in the area. Satoshi and Suiren get interested in them and decide to help them search for the ship. But then the Rocket Gang show up.

SM41 - Dash, Dendimushi! (September 7th)
>Satoshi decides to enter a car race that utilizes Dendimushi electricity together with his friends from school. However, his teammate Māmane's Dendimushi can't get the car to run very fast.

THE ORACIÓN THEME: LET'S WALK TOGETHER:
https://mega.nz/#!zE9QjSiQ!oE0qskBNB3YhDVs2K2LRFT8sqNLp28MeM0uMbQ9JwVk

MOVIE 20 SOUNDTRACK:
https://mega.nz/#!vFlFRQSY!4Htp0-lEjY16htXfvRmmKFX7VT69uMkTCeqHOh_KLKQ

MOVIE 20 MANGA ADAPTATION:
Ch1: https://bato.to/reader#58b0095e6b539cc0
Ch2: https://bato.to/reader#917bbaa353806178
Ch3: https://bato.to/reader#e77665035632179c
Ch4: https://bato.to/reader#e87139d3c567d46b
Ch5: https://bato.to/reader#4fb3dc495b0e4d68
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How do I detect a scottpost? School me, the most I know is "talks about May a lot"
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Satoshi, I love you
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It's a bit of a shame the anime doesn't generate much excitement anymore. At this point SM is only moderately entertaining for the girls like Mallow, Lana, etc and some of Kiawe's episodes. Even most of Japan doesn't talk about SM itself anymore, just making lewd art of the female characters.

Just think of how interested we all were in the anime just 1 year ago. Time sure does fly.
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>>33350155
The one right above mine is a good example.
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>>33350129
Z-ring?
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>>33350252
Probably. Bit hard to see.
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My guess will be that they will wear wetsuits when looking for that treasure. Does that sound about right?
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>>33350271
My dick hopes they just keeps their street clothes on.
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>>33350271
It's possible. Probably not likely though since they all have non wetsuit clothes for swimming, but they might if you're lucky.
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>>33350319
Swimsuits are a possibility, but I'm thinking that only Ash and Lana will be wearing them.
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Considering they're the "Seafolk", you'd assume they have equipment available.
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>>33350155
Talks too eloquently compared to others, likes to quote fansites with Pokeani communities that aren't /vp/ and insists we all know what goes down in them, insists we all grew up with the English dub, never uses Japanese names

Reddit spacing
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>>33350155
Cares about Serebii and other forums.
Hates Misty fans.
"The good old days" posts.
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>>33348304

Furthermore, they had more realistic romantic moment and even M09 escalate their relationship.

Just look at this --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGZ08YFt9GY&t=2s [Embed]

May shown no jealousy toward other girl hitting on Drew and even supported a girl.
In fact, the only reason she blush because Brianna kept claiming Drew to have crush on May.

From what I seen, May's relationship with Drew is probably more like Ash and Gary.
Its probably a feeling of admiration rather then love.
Plus realistically speaking, May and Drew are rivals so romance might get between their rivalry and goal.

Maybe, that why Ash never had a rivalry with main female rival that develop into romance despite Tomioka attempting to do the same thing with contestshipping.
We could have a serious main female trainer like Rika from Digimon Tamer as Ash's main rival and love-interest but the writers always ignore that to create trashes like Trip.
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This is how most fans look at the girls.
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>>33350338
Yeah that's what I've been thinking as well.
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>>33350319
You seem familiar.
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Just ignore and it might go away.
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>>33350367

This is no how all the people see them.
Many many people hate Serena for her lack of character development and chemistry with Ash.
Only Shipper like Serena since they likes to Ship Ash with anyone.

May is probably the most popular in the whole pokemon franschise and still going strong.
I haven't found a single person that found a flaw in May in 4chan!
In fact , Most people in 4chan seem to agree with me about May's superiority.
I guess her only flaw that she still haven't confirmed to have feeling for Ash and can be stolen by some playboy.
Because if her feeling toward Ash was canonize then Serena will never able to match her.
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Dawn is probably the 2nd popular since she actually play the role of real co-star.
However, she feel too much like a May clone! Its like writers mash Ash and May together to create Dawn.

Misty is the probably the 3rd most popular girl since she actually made the show funnier but she lacks character development.

Iris and Serena is probably the two worst girl in pokemon
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Pokemoa just drew this. I miss the days he would do truly lewd art. Looks like everyone wants a piece of Mallow's fine ass nowadays.
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>>33350338
This is SM, so who even knows anymore.
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>>33350319

Wow , even the girls in Jotho series look prettier then S/M girls
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>>33350408
You need to report too. Do your job even if the mods don't. Serves as a reminder to them and us that they're not doing their job as they should.
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>>33350400
I assumed the wetsuit guy was also my Lukabro, since she was the previous wetsuit girl.
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>>33350420
That wasn't me, so it's quite possible.
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>>33350319
>>33350420
Was this the original tiefu?
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>>33350485
You could say that.
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>>33350155
Tries hard to "discuss" about lewd doujinshi artists and their work.
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So was Paul the only proper region long rival we're ever going to get in the anime? All the others are either introduced too late or barely battle Ash or are just there to be friendly with him.
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>>33350129
Why even post an anime thread when it just gets cluttered with pedo's crying over which fictional girl is better...
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>>33350254
What are the chances it's a Z-Power Ring instead of a regular Z-Ring for maximum USUM shilling?
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Satoshi is a dreamer, fighter and hero who always strives to the maximum and never give up in realizing his dreams with his Pokémon and friends.

>What do you think about this?
https://twitter.com/na_kun1257/status/898120987962507265
Ash original (RT) > Ash trash
In particular, I believe that SM can still improve the story and animation in every aspect.
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Best case scenario, We finally have a series that is geared toward Ash winning the league.
May return as the final main girl to win her Grand-festival! That way, Both Ash and main girl manage to succeed in their goal.
May is the right choice since she is the original main coordinator.
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>>33350614
Considering all the Ash-hater that runs the anime, Writers probably thinking about introducing a new Alain with a Z-powered ring that will get everything for free for being current writing team's favorite.
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>>33350638
We really need Ash's old design back, it's the most jarring part of the SM anime. I seriously can't believe we went from the best Ash design to the worst design in the span of a single series.
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>>33350638
>>33350692
>2017
>People are still desperate for (you)s
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I miss XY.

I miss Serena/Amour

But most of all I miss Bonnie/Clemont.
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I miss that time when Scott and ESLshit got banned.
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I have to admit Ash/Dawn were cute together. It's too bad their pairing fell under the radar ever since Amour came around.
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>>33350699

I miss original series

I miss Misty and Brock

But most of all I miss the competition in original series.
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>>33350714

Their relationship is still popular and has its huge fanbase.

Amour on the otherhand being replace by Ash X Lillie.
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>>33350714

They had pretty good chemistry with each other. She probably has the best farewell out of all the girls. It was a nice touch to have Ash use her catchphrase to cheer her up.
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they do a beautiful couple together.
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>>33350749

>>33350749

They make a rubbish couple together.

Like a fanfiction written by a 5 year old girl.
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>>33350749
meh
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>>33350749
> forced couple
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>>33350802

Amen
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>>33350705
>implying that they aren't multiple people.
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>>33350807
There is this thing called samefagging, anon.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING
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>>33350833
I'm aware, but it's not impossible.
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>33350845
IMG is confirmed burger.
Enjoy the eclipse today!
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>>33350749
It's true. They look like a happy couple in love in the world.
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>>33350877

Stop replying to yourself
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Amourshipping is merely puppy love that ended with a sweet kiss, that's all.
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>>33350917

Amourshipping is force shipping between two character without a close chemistry that was written by a 5 year old girl.
The kiss was Yajima's way to cover for his mess in Kalos league but the worthless pig director never knew that many Ash fans hate Amourshipping.
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Pokemon need a opening like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEylcg0vCQY

Funfact, the main character of this series act like a better version of Ash.
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>>33350749
As someone who was critical of Serena during her first 40 episodes, I really came to turn around on her and really wound up enjoying her in her run overall. I only wish she battled more or had a better fleshed out goal, but she was still enjoyable so I can't complain much.

Overall I think the writers "blew their load" so to speak with May and Dawn, and they probably don't want to take so much time and effort to make the female companion overly important anymore with a huge goal over the course of a region. I think that's why they've gone back down to supporting/sidekick female roles again from BW onward.
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>>33350954
No. SM needs an opening like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-ZNfo_NlIU
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I will save SM!
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Soon
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Do you think these 3 are "lezzing it up" in Hoenn? I always figured without Ash around Serena would go full girl crazy.
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>>33351007
SM is already saved
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>>33351002

Nah feel too much like the 90's or 80's

Pokemon would be better off with similar op as Gundam build fighter Tri since it actually match the series.
I mean, I can totally imagine Incineroar at the place of Build Burning Gundam (The Main mecha)
Too bad, S/M series doesn't have a girl that can match Fumina Hoshino.
Not even Mallow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTVF5hK3jg
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>>33351007
>>33351028
Fuck off baras
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>>33350638
>>33350692

if you wanted (You)s you could have just asked instead of being this autistic with a shitty opinion
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>>33351071
thats going to be irrelevant once comedy owl evolves
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Why are fags still crying over Ash and Serena when Ash and Lillie are not only a better couple but will be an actual canon one?
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>>33351112
Fuck off numels
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>>33350129
Serena who?
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I fucking hate Lillie
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>>33350129
Kalos Ash was huuuuuur edgy xdddd and never put any focus in Shit-rena like he does Lillie! Cute!
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>>33351126

Because she make Serena irreverent
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Here is a real topic--

--How can S/M series create a pokemon league tournament that will be equivalent of winning a real official league instate off a minor consolation prize for Kalos League?

You all complain about shitposting instate of having a real discussion about S/M series, well here is your topic so discuss.
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I love Lana
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>>33351155
Maybe there might not be a league tournament and it'll be similar to the orange league where he faces the champion after being recognized as completing all the trials. It's still a pretty good feat.

It'll be kinda similar to the games but he doesn't face Acerola or Kahili.. It might be possible that Acerola is still a trial captain and hasn't been invited to be an E4 yet. Maybe Acerola will battle Ash when he's still doing trials.
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>>33350129
Didn't thoroughly checked around, but is there a way to download "New" Pose outro?
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>>33351126
Rude
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>>33351257
>trial captain
>in the anime
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>>33351290
the classmates aren't trial captains but it doesn't rule out the possibility that they exist.
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>>33351290
>kek
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>>33351257

Orange league is not a real league, its not even tournament or competition.
Winning Orange league is no good feat, anyone can win it but strong trainers like Paul or Cyuthia never bother with it.
Even Gary never felt any bother to win it and he never reached over top 16 in a league tournament.

S/M series now needs a league after the crap they did Kalos league.
Specially since there was no point in losing Kalos League if Alola never suppose to have a league.
If Pussy Kanda had no intension for a league in Alola then he should have let Ash win the Kalos league.
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>>33351321
What's this "trial captain" you're talking about?
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>>33350937
Nice pasta.
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>>33351257
>replying
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>>33351348
I'm gay for Ilima.
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>>33351290
Nanu will be the one in charge of the trial, but hopefully because he's a lazy fuck he'll pawn the job off on Acerola, who'll end up accompanying Ash to the Megamart.
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>>33351382

Depend on new trials at USUM
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>>33351346
The orange league is still a league no matter how uncanon it is to the games. And winning the orange league wasn't easy considering the fact that newer champion was Drake, who was faced and left undefeated by many challengers until Ash was the only one who finally defeated him.

>Paul and Gary never bothered
which is the reason why Ash wrecked their ass.

And you can't use Cynthia because it's a possibility she has done it and we don't know.
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Is Ash's considered as a Starter mon for Ash or a Regional bird type of? Because SM is the only region where Ash didn't catch a regional bird and Ash's Rowlet was raised by Alola's regional bird family.

Because if Ash's Rowlet is a regional bird in SM Anime it means that will fully evolve just like the other birds of Ash.
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>>33351413
*Ash's Rowlet
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>>33351413
This is the first time a starter functions as a regional bird, it's also the first time a regional bird evolves into a flightless bird, so anything is possible here.
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>>33351427
>replying
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>>33351409

Orange League is just a league by name!
Its is not a real league where you compete with other rivals like you to win it and reach the champion league to become a champion master.

Considering how Original Ash wrack Draco in battle , any strong trainer like Gary, Paul or Conway would have kicked Draco's ass if they even bother with orange league.
Specially considering how many trainer wrack Ash's ass in battle after Orange league.
The main reason Drake was undefeated because strong trainer never bother with Orange league. It something only local trainer in Orange Island tried to do.

>which is the reason why Ash wrecked their ass

It was Ash who got his ass wreaked by them, you moron.
They beat Ash so easily even after he won the orange league.
Ash needed to go though another level of training just to catch up to them.

It just prove how pointless and small Orange league is considering that someone like Ash manage to kick Drake's ass.
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>>33351446
A league is a league you still can't disregard that fact. Even if its not the same as the tournament setup. If the trainers can't even beat the strongest trainer which was Drake it doesn't even matter who faces Ash. Ash defeated a trainer no one could beat that's already a great feat.

>Considering how Original Ash wrack Draco in battle , any strong trainer like Gary, Paul or Conway would have kicked Draco's ass

And this is going by your own speculation. You do know Ash trains newer mons after each region right? Of course he would lose at times.

>The main reason Drake was undefeated because strong trainer never bother with Orange league
thinking that all the trainers in the orange island is weak just because they couldn't beat a better trainer is a pretty bad speculation that you can't even back up. where is your reasoning?

>It was Ash who got his ass wreaked by them, you moron.
And in the mist of all that. Ash beats them. It's not the beginning result its the end that mattered. When the battle mattered the most where their rivals faced Ash with their strongest team, Ash won in the end. It's that simple. Ash won because he was the better trainer. If you think the orange league is a terrible league just because Ash won, that's just being bias.
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>>33351508
>replying
You can't be this new.
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>>33351531
I'm seriously bored.
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>>33350129
New opening when tho?
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>>33351557
When rushed UlaUla arc arrives, hope you enjoy 7 episodes of forced evolutions, poorly animated battles and of course quality dog and cat :^)
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>>33351508

A league is not a league if is no function as a league.
Just like AJ's gym wasn't gym even if AJ claim it to be a gym.
Or the last contest that Ash and May competed wasn't a real contest even if it was named a contest.
Drake never said to be the strongest trainer since Elite 4 trainers are far stronger then he is.
Considering how Ash can not win a league tournament despite beating him in battle proves Drake is not the strongest trainer.
Its just simply the stronger trainer never bother to challenge Drake and he always end up battling weak challenger.
Drake place is no different then Volker who quit his job as gym-leader because nobody can give him a challenge. .

>You do know Ash trains newer mons after each region right? Of course he would lose at times.

You do know that Ash didn't start using new Mon until AG Series.
You do know that Paul also used newer mons against Ash.
Yet Ash lost multiple time by multiple trainers.

>>33351508
>thinking that all the trainers in the orange island is weak just because they couldn't beat a better trainer is a pretty bad speculation that you can't even back up. where is your reasoning?

Considering that none of them can beat a trainer who was beaten by a kid that can not win a league tournament, its not a bad speculation.

>>33351508
>And in the mist of all that. Ash beats them

Ash only barely beaten them once!
But he lost to Gary again despite using his most experienced Pikachu against him.

Even during DP, Paul completely dominated Ash and he only able to beat him because of Infernape's Blaze.
Its pretty obvious that Paul and Gary could easily win Orange league if they even bother to try

Orange League is terrible because its nothing like a real official league.
It just some made-up league by some local Islander.
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>>33351427
>it's also the first time a regional bird evolves into a flightless bird,

Decidueye is not flightless
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>>33351706
It's based on a flightless owl, the stilt owl, its not a flying type nor does it have a flying animation or levitate.
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>>33351706
Yes it is, it runs around like an idiot
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>>33351706
It is though, it can only glide and shoot itself upward, see its Z-Move and Pokken moveset.
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>>33350338
They do. Instruments to play a jaunty tune and a boat.

You don't need much else.
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>>33351772
>>33351811

Decidueye shown the ability to fly in Pokken and he also fly during his Z-move,
Those weren't gliding, they were actually flight.
He is simply prefer running rather then flying.

After all , Seizor can not fly yet he was clearly flying in his walking animation.
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>Inb4 both Rowlet and Litten evolve together in a Double Battle.

Would it be both Owlkeks and Barashits BTFO or both be happy?
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>>33351851
Barashits would be sad because they prefer Torracat, Owlbros would laugh at the disgusting fursuit and win yet again!
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>>33351846
Decidueye doesn't move its wings during the Z move, it just... Ascends like a rocket. And it doesn't fly in Pokken either.
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>>33351871
Why should it care about wings if it's a fucking Ghost now?
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>>33351883
Because jumping a few feet and flying aren't the same thing.
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>>33351846
It wasn't flying in its z-move or pokken, in Pokken it just freezes in midair and does nothing.
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>>33351772
>>33351871
>>33351890
Then how would you explain Decidueye being able to learn Brave Bird?
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>>33351890
You don't get it, anon. It's a ghost. It doesn't need wings anymore.
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>>33351893
It freezes in mid air because the physics of it don't make sense at all and it wouldn't be able to move its wings anyway while shooting an arrow
>>33351894
Rowlet learns Brave Bird, Decidueye just keeps it. Same as Alakazam learning Iron Tail because of Kadabra.
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>>33351894
Exactly like how Blaziken does.
>The user tucks in its wings and charges from a low altitude. This also damages the user quite a lot.
You don't need to be able to fly to do it, you just need incredible leg strength and jumping power.
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>>33351871
Birds doesn't flap their wings when they charge toward their target.

I clearly watch Decidueye's gameplay and it can fly .
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>>33351893

Oh really, a Pokemon that can not fly able to freeze himself in midair.

Dude, it does fly, You can to press the right command to attack from midair
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>>33351918
Even if it hypothetical can fly, it's only in its Z-move, and everyone know how exaggerated Z-moves are.
If you believe Decidueye can fly based on this, then you have to believe Incineroar can summon a wrestling ring out of thin air.
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>>33351918
>>33351931
It literally has the idle stance while ascending during the Z move, this is not flight.
It can get in mid air for a few seconds, but it can't function like a proper regional bird and just fly around indefinitely.
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>>33351931
Flying squirrel can freeze in midair for a short period, and they're not capable of flight.
You can attack from midair, but you can't move, and attacking will drop you.
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>>33351939

Incineraor summon a wrestling ring made of fire.
Pokemon has shown the power to create object from thin air.
Like how Lycanroc create Rocks out of thin air.

>>33351941

Watch the Z-move again.
Decidueye summon arrows and then flap his wing before charging toward his target.
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>>33351966
Yes, it flaps its wings once to charge downward, then glides. It also can't learn Fly.
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>>33351953

Noone can jump and float there like Decidueye unless they has the power to fly or float in the air.

Not even flying squirrel can do that

>>33351979

And then fly upward again before the arrow hits.

You can not do that with gliding.

It was clearly shown to flap his wing to fly and position himself to charge like any other birds. does before charging.
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>>33351966
>Incineraor summon a wrestling ring made of fire.
This is not stated anywhere, but it only appears in it's Z-move, that doesn't mean it can summon a ring whenever it wants.
>Pokemon has shown the power to create object from thin air.
Like how Lycanroc create Rocks out of thin air.
These are moves, not physical capabilities of pokemon themselves, Lycanroc can't create rocks whenever it wants, just when using Rock Throw/Slide.
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Rowley is too cute to evolve anyway.
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>>33352005

And How does pokemon use moves if its not Physical capability of themselves.

Pokemon can use their move because its their physical capability.
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>>33351998
Anything with proper wings can glide or stay air bound for a short time, not just Decidueye.
You can also ascend upwards while gliding, if you're descending fast enough, it's basic physics.
You're also ignoring earlier arguments of Decidueye being based on an extinct flightless owl, it where you all explained the Ghost typing right?
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>>33352024
What I'm saying is they can't create objects outside of executing moves, you don't just see a Lycanroc creating a boulder to play with, or Incineroar randomly generating a fire carpet.
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>>33352036

If that true then human could glide from anywhere and stay air bound for short time by creating artificial wings.

Gilding doesn't work like that
That you jump from anywhere, stay airborne, charge at someone and move upward few second before touching the ground.
That's not how Physics works, We need a proper place with strong winds with proper timing for gliding.

Pokemon origin never played in a big role on Pokemon.
Lucario is not as strong as Anudis despite being based upon Anubis.
Infernape is not as powerful as money king despite being based on money king.
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>>33352053

If Lycanroc didn't had the power to create bolder then he wouldn't able to use them for moves.
Pokemon in anime shown to use their move for playing and to do many other thing.
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>>33352089
Humans are too heavy to maintain air, and creating artificial wings isn't as easy as it sounds, they're not proper wings.
Again, the things Decidueye does in its Z-moves are exaggerated, like every other Z-move, I guess applying physics to it the first place was wrong, my bad.
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>>33352158

There was nothing exaggerated about Decidueye flying in his Z-move.

Here is another proof of his flying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Eyqo5au3s

Decidueye clearly flapping his wing and flying.
That's not gliding unless you decide to remain completely ignorant
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>Suiren diving episode

FINALLY
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>>33352187
>decidueye clearly stays in mid air while NOT moving its wings
yeah, that proved nothing, thanks for posting it.
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>>33350420
Ah, so we meet again, Lukabro.
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>>33352209

>Decidueye flap his wing and clearly fly a circle in the air before calling upon a tornado, Yet still denying it,

You have no intention to admit being wrong.
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>>33352187
https://youtu.be/4c_FAY0yVlg

Yeah, Pokken is completely canon with no exaggeration, how can I forget.
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>>33352226
You are the ONLY one saying it can fly, despite being unable to do so aside from a few specific instances (1 burst attack and 1 Z move) and even then it mostly glides/inexplicably stays in mid air. Besides, Decidueye can't learn fly so there's that.
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>>33352187
Does that mean Braixen can actually fly on it's stick?
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>>33350138
>Sea folk
Holy fuck that's a direct call back to the Sea Temple and the Prince of the Sea, the group who Ash traveled with were performers and part of a rare people called the Sea Folk.

Really interesting.
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>>33352258
No, dumbass, it's a reference to Seafolk Village in Poni Island. Do you even play the game?
>inb4 replying to Scott
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>>33352229

That no exaggeration.
Shadow Mewtwo does have the power to burst planet, that why player has to stop it .

>>33352241

I am the only one with proof !

You just using a walking animation and Decidueye supposed origin.
Even though the same walking animation shown Scizor to fly despite the anime and game confirming that he can not fly.

>>33352249

Braixen is a witch and she has to use her flaming broomstick to fly.
Just like some other pokemon that can fly without wings or flying ability.
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ITT: implying owls are birds, revisited.
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>>33352290
Implying Owls Are Birds: ESL Edition
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>>33352258
>you will never swim in a psychic-floated water bubble with Hiromi
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Why is there no movie leaks?
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>>33352272
Shadow Mewtwo has the power to absorb the energy from the planet, which will cause its destruction, not literally destroying planet with a ball of energy, then revert it back like nothing happened except the damage his opponents take.
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>>33352267
>implying you can't sail from Hawaii to Japan
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>>33352342

And Shadow Mewtwo use those energy to flight so obviously he had global level of power.

Plus, We already seen this on Naruto game where player hit target with nuke level power but there is no damage in the field.

That doesn't mean Naruto game are exaggerated, they just give accurate power of those jutsu from anime and manga
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>>33352267
>anyone who mentions AG is Scott
Fuck off.
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Titles when?
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>>33352438
Hopefully never
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>left /vp/ during XYZ
>decide to come back and see what's going on
>the threads are in EXACTLY the same state they were when I left
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>>33352438
>SM42: Beware of Ghosts!
>Lilie cant sleep because she finds out that her house is being haunted by a ghost. Satoshi and the others offer to spend the night over to find the secret behind the strange occurrence.

>SM43: Mamanes Antivirus Rush!
>Mananes computer gets infected with a virus. Satoshi wants to help him, but the only way to beat the virus is playing a videogame...

>SM44: It is Not Easy Being a Fan !
>DJ Leo and Dugtrio are back in town. Kaki gets excited and tries to buy tickets but everything is sold out. A local tv station holds a contest to give away the last tickets available, so him and Satoshi sign up for the contest!

>SM45: Kaki, Win the Crowd!
>Satoshi and Kaki reach the finals after absurd challenges. But the two contestants on the other side of the stage are none other than...

Get hyped! :^)
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>>33352538
Oh and who could forget the eventual Alola Pun Festival :^)
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Why can't we ever get two good series in a row? What the fuck is the problem? DP followed by garbage. XY followed by garbage.
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>>33352591
The anime staff hates you.
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The last episode make me wish Mimi from Digimon Adventure to catch Mimikyu and bond with it.

Seriously, I wonder what kind of bond Mimikyu can have with Mimi and Palmon.
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>>33352623
I always wanted Peter Parker and ash to meet. I wonder what kind of bond they could have.
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>>33352634

Peter can not catch Ash, but he can catch an Ariados.
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>>33352591
>3352591▶>>33352621
>Why can't we ever get two good series?

The sad thing is the anime used to get consistently better with each arc after Johto.

The transition from Johto to AG to DP made it seem like the writers were getting consistently better each arc and improving on the last. I don't know why they stopped this.
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There's better discussion of the SM anime on both Serebiiforums and Bulbagarden. I hang there quite a lot.
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>>33351155

>--How can S/M series create a pokemon league tournament that will be equivalent of winning a real official league instate off a minor consolation prize for Kalos League?

They won't?

Do you honestly think creating a new league in Aloha for Ash to lose in would be too much for the showrunners after what happened last year?
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>>33352990

No, because they need to create a league for Ash to win.
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>>33353005
Which is SM
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>>33352518
what exactly were you expecting?
inb4 replying
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>>33352990
Are you really that stupid to reply to the ESL shitposter? And to a post he made after six hours no less?
But if you want my two cents, here: there won't be a league in SM and if by chance there was one, Ash won't win at it either.
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>>33353005
So you think that it'll be like the Orange Islands all over again?
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>>33353021

Who are you to decide whom he should reply and whom he shouldn't ?

>>33353043

That would make S/M series ever more worthless.
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Digimon Tri has

--- Better animation

--- Better slice of life episode

--- Greater world destroying threat

--- Better and more attractive girls

Then Pokemon S/M series
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DP > XY > Kanto > AG > Orange Islands > Johto > SM > BW

I only put SM ahead of BW because it has better girls.
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>>33353287

This is so wrong, here is the real chart

Kento > DP > Johto > AG > XY > SM > BW
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>>33353317
What makes Johto better than AG or XY? There were some funny or good eps in Johto, but the majority of the saga is just filled with tedious and bland filler COTD episodes.

Misty being extremely dull for a female companion and the poor handling of Ash's Johto pokemon certainly didn't help.
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SM > BW > OS > AG > DP > XY

I prefer more slice of life style anime. SM is my clear cut favorite.
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>>33353327
>>33353287
Fuck off.
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Am I the only one who forgot how large Flannery's rack was in the anime? For some reason I wrongly thought the anime toned down her figure from the games, but I just rewatched her eps and her boobs are huge.
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Flannery is only 19, isn't she? Yet she was so much taller than Brock and her boobs were adult sized.
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>>33350863
He's actually a fucking argentinian.
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>>33353327
>What makes Johto better than AG or XY?

A competent Ash that maintain his original personality, better group chemistry then XY, better humor then XY, Ash using all his pokemon, the conclusion of Ash and Gary's rivalry etc etc

Misty was far more interesting and entertaining then Serena ever was.
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>>33353421
Fuck off.
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>>33353568
>replying
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>>33353568
>A competent Ash that maintain his original personality, better group chemistry then XY, better humor then XY, Ash using all his pokemon, the conclusion of Ash and Gary's rivalry etc etc

Ash in Johto was only slightly more competent than he was in Kanto. He still made tons of mistakes and won two Gym battles unfairly, (Whitney and Pryce).

Also I don't see how the group chemistry was good. The original trio was bland for 90% of Johto's episodes and Ash doesn't even interact with Misty or Brock in most eps. Misty's personality being toned down with no temper means she and Ash barely argued anymore outside of like 1 episode (the Totodile ep), and Misty was in the background for 90% of Johto's episodes otherwise. Misty only caught a single pokemon for the entire span of Johto.

Serena, leaving shipping aside, still had a nice arc of her character breaking out of her shell and becoming more emotionally stable and independent.
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>>33353604
Fuck off.
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>ESLcuck and Scott have been replying each other and themselves for the past hour
Something tells me they get physically ill whenever they see the thread below page 2.
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>>33353619
I don't want to do it but I can't let him get away with his negative XY posts without proper meaning. I know this guy from pokecommunity, he did the same thing there, and I'm pretty sure he was on serebii for a while too before he got banned there. His posts are recognizable to me.
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>this thread
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>>33353681
Ash has barely any memorable interactions with Misty or Brock in Johto. The XY group had tons of chemistry as a family and all the characters beyond Serena/Clemont had proper interaction.

Also why you signaling out the small handful of eps Misty got like it's something huge? You know good and well Misty only got a small handful of eps in Johto about her. Johto was 156 episodes long, Misty has maybe 10 episodes at the most where its about her or she plays a role. Misty battling TR doesn't count.

Serena's showcases were obviously based on idol competition in Japan and even though it was not about battling it was about Serena struggling to put on a performance and go on stage with her pokemon. Her dance skills and appeals looked better than most Contest appeals.

I'll grant you Johto did have some good or funny eps time to time, but the way they handled the main cast and pokemon was far worst than XY. You know this good and well already because AG and DP improved everything from Johto as well.
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>>33353604


Ash in Johto was far more competent considering he won his gym badge fairly rather then getting pitty badge.
There was nothing unfair since Pryce quit the battle himself! Plus he wouldn't able to use Pillowine in the first place if Ash didn't help him reunite with it.

The group chemistry of Johto series was far better then XY series and Ash have interacted with Brock and Misty much closely then XY group.
In fact, XY group was far more blend and boring compare to original trio!

character devlopment arc my ass, Serena just had a cliche story about cutting her hair which has been done in various other anime.
Furthermore, Pokemon showcase was less of a competition and more of a fanservice of boys where Serena and other girls put make-up and wear risque clothes to dance around for 20 minute.

Misty had her character arc in Whirl Cup, She also won a fishing contest and develop a close bond with a girl named Sakura.
There was also various other episode focusing on Misty and Brock in the series.

Johto was far better then XY series! Its only flaw was that it was long and had a lot of filler.
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>>33353679
I'm scared.
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>>33353728
What interactions did the original trio have as a group in Johto beyond their last episode? Ash and Misty barely argued outside the Totodile episode and they have barely any memorable interaction. Between that and Misty's lack of goal, battles, or development, this is the reason Misty was so poorly received in Johto to begin with and why she was permanently removed from the show. You know this good and well.

Brock really wasn't much better, but we just liked him at the time since people wanted him back over Tracey.
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>>33353679
What were you expecting?
hugs and sunshine? this is /padt
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>>33353782
Less or almost no shitposting. That's what i want to see.

Anyway there is no point in holding this General anymore. It was created by Amourfags/XYfags for Amourfags/XYfags.
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>>33353726

Oh please , Ash doesn't have memorable interactions with Clemont , Bonnie or Serena ether.
Family my ass, The entire chemistry felt like fanficiton written by a 5 year old girl.
At least, Original trio had the relationship you expect from an actual clique of 10 to 13 year old kids.
Furthermore, Brock and Misty had more interaction since the day they met ! In fact, Clemont and Serena treat each other like Stranger.

Also why you signaling out the small handful of eps Serena got like it's something huge?
Serena literately spend more then half of the series without a goal and simply crushing on Ash.
In fact, Her entire decision of becoming Pokemon performer was unrealistic and forced to the point that writer had to cut her hair to make her look serious.

Serena showcase was just a bad ripoff of Pokemon contest.
Writers could not found a goal for Serena so they took appeal round of Pokemon contest and turn into a fanservice of men.
There was nothing appealing about her dancing and it was far bellow contest.
Most of the time she use the same tactic she previously use with minor changes.
Unlike Contest Appeal that were different and creative in each episode.

Johto handled the main cast far better then XY series,
XY series felt like Ash traveling with his fanclub who job was to praise him.
Only a complete moron with Amourshipping googles would compare original trio with XY Trio.
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>>33353860
Dude, I can't handle your bizarre posts. Assuming you watched XY you would know what happened in it. Clemont looked up to Ash a big brother and someone to grow towards and admire. Clemont had far more development in XY than Brock did post-Kanto.

Misty and Brock are also exactly the same in the last Johto ep as they are in the first Johto ep. That means they did not change or grow as characters at all in 156 episodes. The only thing that changed about them is the few new pokemon they got and that's it. What is Misty and Brock's character development? They didn't go through anything even in the eps they got spotlight in.

Also what's with the fanclub mention? Misty/Brock didn't belittle Ash in Johto, the SM cast does the same thing, and May and Dawn looked up to Ash a lot too. Just because they argued with him from time to time doesn't make a difference. Serena had an entire arc, even in the first 40 episodes she still had a few spotlight eps and focus on her mother/rhyhorn racing when she was trying to figure out what to do.

I find it bizarre you're championing Misty and Brock here, two characters who were known for spending hundreds of episodes in the background doing absolutely nothing.
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>>33353895
Fuck off.
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>>33353775

What interaction did XY group have as a group in Kalos ? Oh because they do group hand thing so they were best buddies.
You don't need to do group-hand hundred time to show your friendship.
That something fake friends would do to pretend their friendship
Misty and Brock were close friend giving Ash helpful advise.
They never needed to do group hand hunrend time to show their friendship.
They only do group hand when they decide to do something together like waking up Blastoyise.
Misty's character was never poorly receive.
The producer wanted to choose between her and Team Rocket so the they choose Team Rocket.

Brock was and still far better then the Clemont.
Clemont is completely blend , boring and does not have the originality that Brock had.
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>all this autism
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Stop portraying XY as a high quality Series.
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>>33353937
>Misty and Brock were close friend giving Ash helpful advise.

They didn't do that in Johto at all. What advice did they give him? All Brock did was comment on Ash's battles from the sidelines like he did in AG and DP.

>Misty's character was never poorly receive.

Takeshi Shudo flat out said he thought Misty had no role on the show and that she wasn't a good enough female companion. He treated her poorly through most of her run and she was poorly received by the fanbase at the time. That's why May became more popular than her and what led to Misty's permanent departure 15 years ago. In fact until Iris was introduced, Misty was considered the worst handled female lead of the series for a decade. And you know this! Why are you acting like you don't know the fandom history?

>Clemont is completely blend , boring and does not have the originality that Brock had.

You have some extremely poor grasp of characters then. Clemont's personality was a mix of nerdy older brother, inventor, to having admiration and respect for Ash and trying to break out of his shell.

Brock's character started off good, but he just got progressively worse with each passing saga.
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>>33353947
It's literally Scott and the ESL, and this is only because Scott identified him as a fellow cancer from another forum.
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>>33353947
Feel free to report it and get banned for abusing the report function.
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>>33351557
Ep 45
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>>33354004
Fucking this.
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I forgot, when was XY&Z first announced?
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I want to die.
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Who wants to bet that the older characters (TRio and Brionne's trainers) will not wear swimsuits in the Dhelmise episode? Think about it, they skipped the Fire trial because they probably think the Totem Salazzle is too "sexy" for it's audience and they give Olivia a jacket.
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>>33354004
Well that's because its not off-topic. It's a debate about the anime and its sagas.
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>>33354021
October issue of Corocoro, which leaked September 12th and had a street date of September 15th.
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>>33354027
Fuck off.
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>>33354041
I miss it.
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>>33353895

Oh, I watched XY series but I don't think you ever watched Johto series and simply just read spoiler from Bulbapedia.

There is different between worshiping and admiring.
Clemont barely didn't had much development, he only development was " Oh Ash never give up so I will never give up too"
Brock had his development but he never use Ash as a base for his development.

Oh please, Clemont and Serena were also exactly the same in the last XY ep as they were in the first XY ep.
They spend the entire worshiping Ash and following his motto of never give up .
Whenever they are stuck, they just remember Ash and do what he tells them to do .

The only change Clemont and Serena had was confidence! They just gain slightly more confidence from Ash and that's was their only change.

Misty receive her character development in Whirl cup and various other episode in johto but she never needed Ash for it.
Same goes with Brock who shined in multiple johto and even played the role of the group leader.

May and Dawn look up to Ash but they never worship him.
Misty and Brock would belittle Ash when he acted like Idiot , Example : when he purposely choose a grass type in a bug type gym.
Serena had no arc, She just had a episode about cutting her hair.
Even Misty had more amount of spotlight then Serena ever had in XY series.

Clemont and Serena also known for being dull and boring character.
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>>33354082
Dude, I'm done. You obviously don't want to understand why people liked XY or Serena/Clemont. I didn't even know you cared about Misty/Brock much since we know they became stagnant stale characters. I've seen all of Johto many times too.

You got away with rants like this on pokecommunity and serebii because those places are filled with idiots and autists who barely watch the show and can't comprehend development, but you're not going to get away with it here. I didn't know character development in a children's anime was this hard to grasp.
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>>33354113
You want to know the real reason why people liked them and XY?

>muh CGI backgrounds
>muh "competent" edgy Satoshi
>muh subplot love Serena
>muh "Badassery"
>muh Satoshi-Gekkouga
>muh drama queen Satoshi
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>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

Too bad they're subs come out super slowly now. Pretty sure the garbo dubs are ahead of them now.
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>>33351126
She is better than serena because she actually does pokebattles. Also long hair is better than shorthair. I mean who wants a girl that looks like a boy with tits? aka serena.
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If you literally remove all this subplot Love from Serena you will get Second worst PokeGirl. And Iris is not the worst.
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>>33354025
Does anybody agree?
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>>33354152
>caring about the dub
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>this thread
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>>33353984

>They didn't do that in Johto at all. What advice did they give him? All Brock did was comment on Ash's battles from the sidelines like he did in AG and DP.
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They were far more helpful then Clemont and Serena ever was.

>Takeshi Shudo flat out said he thought Misty had no role on the show and that she wasn't a good enough female companion.


Takeshi shudo never said Misty wasn't a good enough female companion.
Furthermore , The Director of Pokemon anime state that All female companion are just eye-candies for boys
That mean, there is no point in developing female companion since writers see them as sexual object to attract boys.

>You have some extremely poor grasp of characters then. Clemont's personality was a mix of nerdy older brother, inventor, to having admiration and respect for Ash and trying to break out of his shell.
>Brock's character started off good, but he just got progressively worse with each passing saga.

I have far better grasp of characters then you.
Clemont character was a geek who followed around a popular jock so he could be as popular and strong as the jock as well .
Brock character was the mentor who acts like the group leader and help Ash grow further.
In fact, he was perfect combination of mature yet goofy character.
One side he was a multi-talented, smart , mature guy with leadership quality while the other side he was a goofy teenager who desperately wants a girlfriend

This mixture of mature goofy personality made Brock so lovable.
In fact, it was painful when he deal with his broken heart with a smile when Suzie decided to open a salon with Zane.
That the only time I felt sorry for Brock's broken heart.
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>>33354113
>you have to like what i like b-ba-baka

Geez xyfags let themself get distracted by fancy visuals. You are just like those kids that go "eww your game has shitty graphics and muh flawed game got 4k graphics" gameplay is more important than graphics. Sun and moon got a much better cast overall and no shitty low quality one side love plot or a "who can crawl up ash's ass the fastest" contest.
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Post Makotos.
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Woah, that's no eclipse!
Did it surprise you!?
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>>33354197
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>>33354197

They are getting married
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>>33354203
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>>33354180
Yeah, the ashnime sucks no matter what language it's in.
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>>33354213
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>>33354184
You're out of your mind. Misty/Brock were the same background exposition characters in Johto as anyone else. The only different is characters like Serena/Clemont and even May/Dawn were impressed by what Ash was doing and not just commenting on it.

Takeshi Shudo did imply he didn't think Misty had a much of a role in the show. He was right. She just filled the token female role that any other female companion could do better. That's also why he didn't decide to remove Brock again over her either.

As for your last point, you don't. There's a reason why Clemont was popular and Serena even not counting the shipping gained a fanbase. Granted I like May and Dawn over her, but I still thought Serena had a good character arc.

And Brock, really? The same Brock people wanted to leave the anime for years? Even back when AG was airing people were complaining about Brock and talking about how stale he was becoming, then when he came back for DP people were utterly disgusted. Outside of Croagunk and some one off eps, he had no role in DP at all.
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>>33354219
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https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/20452394/
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>>33354202
bikkurishita!
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>>33354223
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>>33354208
>a formal celebration party dress is now a wedding dress
You know nothing about fashion and culture anon
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>>33354234
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why are you guys here if you hate the current show?
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>>33354242
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>>33354247
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>>33354180

When did I say I care about the dub? I'm just pointing out how the PM subs fell behind.
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>>33354255
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mao's mom when?
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>>33354258
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>>33354260
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>>33354265
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>>33350129
This is something I meant to post for a while.
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>>33354269
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>>33354259
sorry she's ded
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>>33354275
What's up with that shitty caption?
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>>33354257
It's happened before too. And it's SM, it's understandable.
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>Makoto saves another thread
Best boy_
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>and now a Makoto picdump
No, picdumping isn't good posting either. It's chaos, like a ladder.
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>>33354222.

You are the one who out of your mind! because
Misty and Brock were always impressed by what Ash doing as well.
They simply didn't worship Ash and gave more honest opinion compare to Clemont and Serena.

The director imply that he think all female companion as nothing more then eye candy.
Considering that there were 7 girls and none of them able to make the anime as fun as original series, it pretty much prove that not everyone can do Misty's job better.

Who told you Clemont was popular ? he has a small fanbase like Iris but that doesn't make him more popular.

And seriously you talking about some people wanting Brock to leave ? Because there are lot of people who wanted Serena to leave and never come back in the series.
Don't talk about people complaining about Brock when there are huge number of people that can not stand Serena and does not want her to return.
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>>33354309
Newfag.
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>>33354315
That's nice, but have you considered Makoto?
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>>33354322
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>>33354331
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I want to makoto Makoto's makotos.
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>>33354322
Makoto didn't play any role in the movie.
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>>33354315
LOL, stop. Misty got stale in Johto and she was considered the worst handled female companion for nearly a decade.

People also wanted Brock to leave by the end of AG. He was useless dead weight in DP and had no reason to be there.

Clemont was also very well received, so was Cilan in Japan for that matter. And Kiawe now is cool. It doesn't take much to make a good male companion and they've all been more interesting than Brock was for the later half of his run.

As for Serena she left at the end of her generation, but that's besides the point.
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>>33354348
Ok, but how about Makoto?
>>
Makoto is CUTE!
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>>33354348
What do you think about Makoto?
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>>33354341
But that's wrong.
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I want to marry Makoto.
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Why is Makoto such a qt?
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>>33354358
She's a qt.
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I fucking hate Makoto
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>>33354383
I fucking hate you.
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>>33354375
Because she's in love.
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>>33354383
Shit taste pls leave.
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sorry for the bad quality but no one seemed to share this cute official clearfile art yet, so i thought i'd share it
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>>33354389
I'm in love with her.
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>>33354393
Cool picture.
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>>33354348

Serena is also consider to be the worst pokegirl who only exist for shipping.
Misty had lot more then just Shipping that made her popular.

And Now there are people who wants Brock back.
He was the guy who cooked, treated Ash's injured pokemon and come up with most of the plan to deal with various crisis.
He is far from being a dead weight.

Clemont was poorly received, his character became boring after few episode.
None of the male character still can match Brock unique character.

Misty also left at the end of her generation as well.
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>>33354383
How is it possible to be this wrong?
>>
Why is it about SM that has considerably slowed anime discussion down in almost all sites?
>>
Why do anons always ask questions?
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>>33354404
But what about Makoto?
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>>33354410
I'm not seeing any questions.
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>>33354407

The damage from Alain and no league in Alola.
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>>33354404
But Makoto a qt.
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>>33354404
I disagree because Makoto a best boy.
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>>33354404
You didn't mention Makoto.
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So I haven't been following S/M, have they done the crossdressing episode yet?
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>>33354428
Nope.
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>>33354404
Serena became popular both with and without shipping. She was better received than Iris was and she's handled better than Johto Misty.

Nobody who actually watches the anime wants Brock back as a main character. We've had 600 episodes of Brock, for more than half that time he was bland/boring or just a background character. Laughably saying a character who was around for 600 episodes needs even more time is absurd.

Clemont was popular all throughout XY was airing. I don't know why you're making stuff up.

The difference with Misty is they made a blatant decision to give her an early permanent departure from the anime way back in 2002, decided not to bring her character back, and then stopped her cameos and ignored her character for the next decade. They didn't even want to use Misty for Movie 20, what does that tell you? I'm not a Misty hater either, I like pre-Johto Misty, but I'm explaining to you why she's gone.
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>>33354430
What about Makoto?
>>
>>33354430
Makoto a qt though.
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>>33354430
How about Makoto?
>>
>>33354430
Why do you think Makoto is so cute?
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Why IS Makoto so cute?
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>>33354399
shit forgot pic.
I don't have a scanner to scan the artwork but eitherway it's nice to see some merch for these guys
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>>33354430
Why do you ignore Makoto?
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Makoto Discussion Thread when?
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>>33354458
Cute. Is it from the Pokemon Center?
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>>33354464
This IS the Makoto discussion thread.
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>>33354428
just this for now
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>>33354457
Because he's in love.
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>>33354472
I think he was dressed up as the male there, though.
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Rabvioto, Ravioto.
Give me the Makoto
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>>33354489
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>>33354489
Ok.
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>33354493
If it's safe
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>>33354488
at least the hair, the best you can get
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>>33354472
Why is Hoshi so cute?
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>>33354549
What about Makoto?
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>>33354549
I think Makoto is cute, though, don't you?
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>>33354549
I disagree because Makoto a qt.
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>>33354549
You didn't mention Makoto.
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>>33354549
Makoto is proof you're wrong.
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>>33354549
LMAO, are you bringing up casual fans who haven't watched the anime in 15 years who want Brock back? These are just the same delusional original trio fanboys who only watch the anime for Misty/Brock and quit after Johto.

Why would you even bring those people up?
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>>33354430

Serena only gain some attention because of shipping.
Without that she is extremely dull, plain, boring and blend character.

Only those who doesn't watch the series doesn't want Brock back.
Those who actually watches the series want to see Brock.
In fact, Brock's special episode receive more rating then Pokemon origin.
Also, stop pretending that you watched any other series expect XY series because bulbapedia can not help you.
Brock always played the role of the group leader and often came up with the solution to various problem in all pokemon series.
Only a moron who never watched original series would claim Brock to be dull boring character.

Stop making thing up! Clemont's character wasn't nearly as popular as Iris.

By your theory, Team Rocket should be a less popularr since the anime was planning to change something by cutting them or Misty off.
Takeshi Shudo loved Team Rocket more so he picked Serena.
It had nothing to do with Misty's popularity.
They didn't brought back Misty and Brock in M20 because they didn't wanted to go all the trouble of reintroducing them.
Oh, Misty had her own Special during chronicles series.
However, May has no special episode and she only appeared for only one arc.
There is a chance that Serena might never appear after a cameo.
I am also explaining to you why Jotho series was better then XY series
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>>33354572

Because currently there are overwhelming amount of people who want to see Brock back.
Specially after BW Series blow up in their face
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>>33354561
>>33354562
>>33354565
>>33354569

I already posted the pic of M20 Ash and Makoto getting married.
She is prettier then Serena.
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>>33354583
Makoto is cute though.
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>>33353430
>>33353421
>Am I the only one who forgot how large Flannery's rack was in the anime?

There is a reason why Flannary is one of the most popular Gym-leader.

Redhead , Brown hair and Pink hair girls are the prettiest.
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>>33354583
No, because Makoto a qt.
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>>33354583
Makoto a qt.
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>>33354583
What do you think about Makoto though?
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>>33354583
You didn't mention Makoto.
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>>33354632
No, Makoto is.
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>>33354583
How about Makoto?
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>>33354659
>>33354708
>>33354728
>>33354734
>>33354777
>>33354638

Ash pls
STOP!
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>>33354583
>>33354430

Serena has a fantastic development with new unexplored dreams with her three Pokémon and has become the finalist in the master class in confronting Aria, Kalos Queen.
Dawn becomes the final of the Grand Festival, in 1 single attempt
May arrives among the best 4 and 8 of the Grand Festival, in two attempts
Mallow and Lana: Unfortunately the two are trial captains (similar to gym leaders on the same island) adding the total of 4 trial captains (2 boys, 2 girls) without doing anything beyond, hopefully girls will have interesting dreams and are not committing the same mistakes of Misty and Iris in shit.
Lillie: She started badly with her left foot when she has a Genwunner Alola Form (Vulpix, overexploitation) without doing efforts on her own, has an exaggerated phobia and dislike to the Pokémon. I wait she returns her pokémon to her pokeball to Shiron later of catch new Pokémon originating from Alola.
Misty: She is gym leader has had no relevance and not development in her dream, was only an eventual character to fill the series for the bike.
Iris: She does the same thing as Misty does almost nothing in the series.

Misty and Brock are not going back to the anime, they already had their chance in more regions with the protagonist, sorry overexploited nostalfags.

Serena's feelings and love for Satoshi have always been present in the original stories from Pokémon, and also Satoshi loves Serena.
Everyone has hopes Serena return in wonderful new story to share to everyone w/ new dreams, pokémon, has Z-Ring, meets with Satoshi, travel together in Alola, save the world, pokémon and moments together (amour)
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>>33355195
How about Makoto?
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>>33355195
You didn't mention Makoto.
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