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Old >>33325757

New?
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg
>https://pastebin.com/XDU1wEnz

TL:DR:
>Complete all Trainer Challenges to get 45 free packs (use Cheat Engine's speedhack to speed up AI games)
>Play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play.
>Farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets.
>Enter tournaments to get TRADABLE chests and packs.
>DON'T OPEN THEM.
>Trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.

What themedeck should I buy?
>Buy the Lunala one.

Resources
>http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/
>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/pokemon-events/championship-series-event-results/
>http://thecharizardlounge.com/decklists/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the forums in the trading section. Trading companies overprice cards, aim lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading.
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Bots will snatch plain text or uncovered QRs.
>Ask for emails and send em individually.
>Post your pulls or your mom dies in her sleep.
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First for Gardevoir wins it all.
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>>33339485
3 Garbs vs 1 Gard
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>deleting my Latios donk decks

F
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Sho takes a 1-0 lead
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>pablo "tablemon" meza goes to worlds
>makes it to top 8
>get knocked out by his own teammate in top 8 in a mirror match
Couldn't make these things up.
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Poor kid is bricking hard.
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>>33339780
he´s mexican
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>play N
>get a brick and lose

Going to be the funnest format.
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USA dies tonight
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OBLITERATED
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Bye Bye Xander "bad loser" Pero
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>Golisopod is my favorite card in the set

Please trash the waifu.
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>>33339930
>Gardevoir the BDIF for what seems like the hundredth time in TCG history
>guaranteed to face off against the most cancerous deck in this format
>matchup is extremely favorable for Gardevoir
>mfw best girl wins it all and saves the format
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Fuck off trash bag mon!
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>susuki vs sasaki
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>>33339958

Waifumon saves the meta!
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>>33339994
Only until Greninja takes over again in a few weeks.
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>pulled a tapu lele today

Should I sell this card immediately or should I hold and hope it goes up in value?
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>>33340118
It's literally rising by the day as we speak. It's like 55-60 right now.
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>>33340118
Lele is the new Shaymin. Keep it and watch the price soar.
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>volunteer for a day
>get a competitor's swag bag + more tomorrow

holy shit didn't expect this

fuck yeah
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I'm thinking about getting into the game, but I don't have any of the staple cards. Are booster boxes my best bet of getting staples, and if so, which one should I buy?
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>>33340646

Buy singles.
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>>33340646
Singles are literally always the most efficient way of getting anything. The only way booster boxes might work out cheaper is if you sell literally everything you don't want, individually, on eBay
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>>33340461
They let you staff without other tournament experience?
Here in Europe you get told to fuck off if you even apply to staff a regional without having staffed at least three regionals before.
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So Israel Sosa lost. Scrubbed out with memetails
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I won't let this thread die...

IKUZE!
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>>33340862
>Can't staff unless you have prior experience
>Unable to gain experience because no one will let you staff
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>>33340862
Europe is a dick to PTCG, I'd move honestly.
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>post in PTCGO general
>initiate arguments over metas and card prices
>don't actually play PTCGO
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Any way I can improve these post rotation decks??
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>>33340862
I could go take the professors exam right now and in 20 minutes I could staff any tournament I want.
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>>33341945
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>>33341948
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REMOVE EXPANDED AND LEGACY. STANDARD IS THE ONLY FORMAT THAT MATTERS.
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>>33341945
Wicke is bad. Super Rod and Professor's Letter aren't really needed. Lele to Brigette and Alolan Vulpix are both nice for setting up more consistently. Couple of Heavy Balls can be handy.

>>33341948
You don't need more than two Diance. Glalade is a solid non-GX attacker, plus offers an option for Fighting weakness against Dark types. I'd say one more Choice Band, two fewer Float Stones.

>>33341952
Lillie is only really good turn one, and ideally you want turn one to go to Kiawe when you can't attack anyway.

Those are my shit opinions. Take them or leave them.

>>33341966
I still wonder if they'll ever actually rotate Expanded, or if it's just going to be BW-onward perpetually. Also wild speculation, if we do get a DP remake in the SM engine like people keep asking for, do you think we'll get a new set of DP cards like HGSS did?
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>>33341996
>if we do get a DP remake in the SM engine like people keep asking for, do you think we'll get a new set of DP cards like HGSS did?

Probably. I mean, Ancient Origins, Roaring Skies and Double Crisis were technically sets dedicated or based on ORAS.

Something that I would like to see are weaknesses and resistances with +20/30/40 and -20/30/40 instead of the x2 and -20.
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>>33342032
we might even get alolan sinnoh mons we may even get a grass type glaceon! with like leaves and stuff on it. would make nioce cards
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these are my top 4 serious business decks
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>>33342189
and these are my top 4 memes

kingdra in particular would actually be extremely good if they would just fucking ban all of the obnoxious turn 1 item locks from expanded.
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>>33342032
>Something that I would like to see are weaknesses and resistances with +20/30/40 and -20/30/40 instead of the x2 and -20.
I'd love that, 2x weakness is too much of a deciding factor in some matchups. Makes for an auto-loss if you happen to get a bad matchup, and completely kills the viability of some cards. If they'd stuck with that, maybe the power creep in more recent years wouldn't have been quite as bad.

Or maybe we'll just see a return of Broken Time Space for the shits and giggles.
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>>33342203
seeing as they're banning FOGP for being cancer there's no way they'd introduce BTS again.
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Anyone knows what this ladder's FA is?
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>>33342223
Bump. im 10 matches away from finding out and i dont wanna spend the next 2 hours finding out
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>>33342223
Pokemon Ranger.
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what time is the masters final expected?

Also >>33341996
>Wicke is bad.

I've started throwing it into a few decks as a one-of just because I pulled a full art. In place of one N. I have been quite surprised at how useful it can be on occasion. So many times in a game- especially early -your opponent plays themself down to one or two cards. Obviously one of these is a supporter/VS/Lele/Ultra Ball for next turn. But Wicke fucks that plan right over.
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>>33342235
yeah people don't really get Wicke, it's an early game disruption card almost like Ghetsis but better used from second move than first.

I like it in decks that don't mind moving second like Volcanion.
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Is this the worst worlds ever?

>top 8 is literally 2 deck archetypes
>both days were mirror matches everywhere
>gardevoir is the only deck that actually deals with garb, the few other decks that deal with garb like metagross and vika bulu aren't consistent enough

the worst part is they can't just print a card that shuffles items out of discard to nerf garb because it runs into LTC issues in expanded.
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Garb banned when?
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so, how much time left until finals?
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>>33342281
The garb mirror match is so dull. Apparently one of the garb mirrors had the exact same deck. I quite like watching gard and mega ray though. But 6/8 being garb is pretty embarassing.
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>>33342281
There are four deck archetypes. Just that three of them happen to include Garb.
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>>33342317
30 minutes until scheduled start.
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>>33342281
To avoid the LTC issue they could just bring back the Lost Zone and have a card to move things from discard to there.
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>>33342375
11 Minutes and counting
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>>33342381
I was actually hoping they would announce that, the lost zone was a good mechanic and the UBs create a good lore justification for bringing it back.

I could see a card like Lusamine being a supporter, something like 'send 4 cards from either player's discard pile to the lost zone'
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GO GARD!
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>>33342410
Yeah that would be good. UBs and the inevitable gen 4 remakes that are coming would be great lore shit for this.
Then again, Gen3 remakes happened and we never got the extra fun Delta Species back and that was a big gimmick during the RS era.
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>>33342512
We didn't had Delta Species, but we had the double typed Pokémon that were present during the gen 3 era.
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>Gard vs Gard
Already better then masters
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>japanese kid only has one candy
>not running octillery when you have gallade in your deck

wtf is this kids problem
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Is he /ourboy/ now?
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>>33342410
i like the idea of being able to exile from opponent's discard, it'd make expanded more enjoyable and finally end mememarch
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hero remoraid
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One more game
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>>33342704
>>33342811
/OURBOY/!
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>>33342811
we did it reddit
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He did it, again.
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Japan BTFO
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Finally got round to scanning all my qr codes...
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Anyone know what the Seniors matchup is going to be?
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>>33342950
>juniors
>relevant

Say that to me in masters and not in juniors and see what happens.
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>>33342971
Juniors are smarter and cuter than masters.
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>>33342971
japan is probably going to lose in masters anyways
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>tfw all 3 championship decks on sale are gard decks
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>>33342981
>smarter
>1 candy
>no octillery
>he made it to finals with this list
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this kid's struggling speaking
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>>33343006
japan is guaranteed to lose in masters because gardevoir literally can't lose to garb lists
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>>33343014
>1 candy
More room for Vulpix

>no Octillery
Even more room for Tapu Lesbian

>he made it to finals with this list
Proving that he is a good player, better at deck building and that he will be a champion of Masters.
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Tobias is cute, but he held Umbreon like he was strangling it.
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>>33341966
>why the fuck would people want to use their old cards
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I fell that gardevoir's price will skyrocket
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>>33343041
breh, the game is slow but not slow enough that you can afford to run a stage 2 deck without plenty of acceleration. Metagross decks also usually run 2 Vulpix, doesn't mean they don't run 3-4 candies. One of the main issues with stage 2 decks in general is they're inherently less consistent.

also not running octillery in garde is literally retarded, you naturally have easy access to gallade, you can dig so fucking deep with that combo.
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>>33343066
So buy them now before that happens, right?
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>>33343066
not really, the second we had a set list everyone knew it would be the best card in the set. Might see a bump of a few bucks. It'll be the most expensive GX other than Lele for sure but it'll probably stick around $10-15 while other GX are $3-5.
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GO CANADA!
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>2 water decks
rip the Gard sweep dream
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>>33343147
wait nvm gg
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Oh yeah dive ball is being rotated out isn't it?
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>>33343152
I really hope Ninetales wins, just because Greninja already had its time in the spotlight coming 2nd in Masters last year.
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twitch tv/pokemontcg
Before someone asks where to watch

>>33343181
Yes
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>>33343198
While I love the A-Ninetales deck I kind of don't want it to win just because I don't want everyone and their dog playing it online.
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>>33343239
As a Metagross player I'd love to see more Ninetales decks running around.
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>>33343239
Ninetales vs Greninja is pretty abysmal, it's basically almost an autoloss unless greninja gets classic greninja hands and you take advantage.
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>>33343255
Is Metagross going to be viable after VS seeker and trainers mail rotates? It's already fairly clunky and you are going to have to dig without discarding your supporters.
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What are we watching right now? Juniors?
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>>33343345
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>all those VGCucks who don't know what's happening
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>play greninja
>dont use silent labs
>lose to a good matchup because of 1 tech
Like pottery.
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>>33343433
He made to finals without silent lab
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The absolute shit hand of Zach
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>Dead hand
>3 VS Seeker
>Sycamore

Hurts
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>>33339445
does anyone immediately scoop any fags that play volcanion?

Most mindless bullshit deck in the meta
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>>33343471
And now he's having a rough time because of it.

Silent lab is just an amazing card in greninja since it will literally never hurt you in a matchup except like if you get delinquented.

>>33343477
Tablemon sycamore special.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA BAD HANDS AREN'T EXCLUSIVE TO TCGO YOU ASSHOLES
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>>33343475
>>33343477
Literally TCGO starting hand
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>>33343307
I've been playing a post-rotation build for a couple of weeks, at 29/38. The only one-of supports I play are Brigette and Skyla, Brigette should be used as early as possible and Skyla is a nice bonus if I can make it work but not any big loss if I do have to discard it.
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>>33343477
What would you do /vp/?
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>>33343518
Stall until my opponent Ns me or I top deck something useful.
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>>33343485
I think you dont get it, he used a better card that made him go to finals over silent lab
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>>33343534
>stall a greninja
Lol, it's like you want to give them the free win.
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Marshadow – Psychic – HP70
Basic Pokemon
[P] Spirit Echo: Choose 1 Basic Pokemon card from each player’s discard pile and play it onto that player’s bench.
[C][C] Surprise Attack: 40 damage. Flip a coin. If tails, this attack does nothing.
Weakness: Darkness (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 1
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>>33343567
It's shit
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>>33343552
Greninja decks are pretty much 100% figured out bruh, it's not a new deck. He isn't using a new fresh tech.

He is using a deck of 56-57 of the SAME cards that every greninja has run for almost two years. His flex cards are stadiums, it's a joke if you think people have no right to critique someone since "they're in the finals so they must know best".
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Probably going to see way more pcl in ninetales after this.
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A FUCKING LEAF
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>>33343586
It's been a near staple in the deck for a long time. The PCL only helps a very few matchups though until rotation.

If Silent Lab wasn't rotating, this game would inspire greninjas to put back silent labs in their decks. You're probably just gonna see a lot more tech giratinas after rotation if greninja sprouts up now.
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lel these ninetales aquapatch plays.
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THAT FUCKING BUBBLE
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>Bubble hits
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>memeing this fucking hard
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Yo fuck this leaf
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LMAO
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>dig through your deck
>lose to bubble flips
Lol, wrekt.
RNG at the top even in world finals.
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Is this the real world?
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watch him prize giratina and lose now
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That was absolutely insane.
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>bullshit a win
>get bullshitted by prizes

Get memed on kid.
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>two frogs prized
Welp, gg MIkey, caught a lucky break but no way he's pulling this one off.
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>>33343687
Giratina down straight away.
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>2 frogs prized
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET BUBBLE MEMEING LEAF FUCK
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Hah all of his RNG used on coinflips.
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Oh for fuck sake
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JUST
U
S
T
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Greninja bricks two years in a row
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Sold his soul to the coinflips.
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>>33343746
It's what Greninja does best.
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>If you look closely you can actually pinpoint the exact moment his heart breaks in two
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>>33343774
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Zachary is the biggest retard in the world if he goes and loses after this
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FROGS NEVER AGAIN.
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The top decks
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Bubble only exists to give you false hope.
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Are you shitting me
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>inb4 Bubbles around 30 cards
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>>33343855
replace smile with frogs
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jobninja jobs again
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Staru suicide.
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>>33343867
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IT R OVER.
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I'm glad it's over
This lasted way more than it should fucking have
Canadians ruin everything as always
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HAHAHAHAHA GRENINJOBBER 2ND PLACE FOR THE 3RD TIME
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FUCK YOU LEAF
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So what are the Championship Decks going to be this year?
>Gardevoir
>Ninetales
>Garb
>Garb?
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>>33343938
Gard
Ninetales
Gard
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>>33343938

Garbodor, no contest.
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>>33343938
Based Bug
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weeee arrrr frrrom japaaan
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Greninja confirmed for meme tier deck.
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>Jobs at anime
>Jobs at TCG
>Shitmon in VGC
JUST
U
S
T
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I was hoping someone wins with Greninja so I can trade it for lots of packs, but it looks like the exact opposite happened.
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>>33344008
People are going to be burning Greninja cards because of the constant failures.
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Cool, another Mac user.
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>Pokemon uses Mac
Disgusting
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>>33344042
>br
look who's talking
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>>33344057
A superior unix man
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Pls Diego, I don't want to see Garb come out on top.

>>33342281
>the worst part is they can't just print a card that shuffles items out of discard to nerf garb because it runs into LTC issues in expanded.
They could do a new card with the same effect as Junk Hunt on Sableye DEX, bring back items but have to use your attack for the turn to do it.
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This is the end. It was a fun year, wasn't it?
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Plane crasher vs Island thief who wins?
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Fuck Garb
Pls win Gard
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I fucking hate Gard, pls win bug man
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>>33344097
>sableye/garb back in standard

Lol, you're joking right?
The minute you do that, sableye becomes a ridiculous behemoth of stall that decks like sylveon wish they could be. If could be any shitmon as long as it has 60 HP and 1 energy and it'd be busted.
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Garde will save the world.
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how old is diego? he looks like a grandfather
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>>33344167
>the face of the villain that denied tablemon his world win though a mirror match
The fiend.
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>>33344167
>tfw there are 2 Kirlias in prizes
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>>33344165
He's only 10 years old playing Garde just ages you really fast in return for your wins.
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>literally a 40 year old dude in the finals of a children's card game

real life is becoming the yugioh anime guys
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>>33344167
>woow how would i know i am on finals
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>>33343992
You mean it can't be used in VGC even though Ashninja was added in SM
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>>33344187
You can still use normal frog.
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>>33344194
You can't
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RIP octillery.
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>>33344205
>Only VGC17 exist
Don't be obtuse. You've been able to use it in previous years and he'll most certainly be allowed in the future again.
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>Game has been going this long and only one prize card has been taken


OH BOY.
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>>33344247
You said like you were referencing to this year vgc.
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>>33344273
It could be seen that way, yes. I should have been more clear.
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Kappa.

Mods will not divide us.
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>>33344332
Im >>33326500 dont leave your house ill be waiting outside with a machete
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>>33339445
I've been watching the TCG final because i'm bored.
I barely remember game rules, never really liked it, sorry guys. But... Am I wrong or Argentina guy is a bit of an asshole? He looks like he's playing to annoy the opponent, while Japan guy is much more moderated and respectful.
Looking for opinions
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>>33344387
Is this a meme post?

Wut.
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>>33344387
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>>33344387
You are not wrong. Argentinians are prepotent assholes.
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>40 minutes in
>still in the middle of game 1
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>>33343478
if I have to sit through more than 2 steam ups on the first turn I do.
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I keep seeing them going through each other's discard pile all the time.
Can you do this at anytime? Or do you need to be holding a card that lets you do this?
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>>33344469
Any time.
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>>33344469
So long as your opponent says it's fine, you can look at the discard pile whenever. Unlike in some card games Pokemon players don't seem scummy enough to slowplay by doing useless shit like constantly looking at discard piles.
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>>33344448
Diego keeps checking and rechecking both his and Naoto's discards. And bothered the judge for minutes.
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THE LOCK
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>>33344469
Discard pile is face up/public knowledge, which means it's legal to check it at any time.
It's the same as asking to see how many energy is attached to an opponent's benched Pokémon, or something like that
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>getting fucking lysandre stalled in the 2017 worlds meta
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>outplay opponent the whole game
>lose to prizes
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GO DIEGO GO!
GO GARD!
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Madman
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big hand there to get everything he needed. How come he split the deck *after* the Jap when he hasn't done that any other time?
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>>33344504
i'd really think about this if japanese players werent the shadiest shufflers in the game
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>>33344504
Literally every major player false shuffles.
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>>33344504
Players can decide to do it any time, it's not an issue. I can decide to never shuffle my opponents deck until top 8 and then I insist to do it every time they have to shuffle, and no one can complain because it's fair and allowed.
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GUZMA takes another win through deck out

Best card in format?
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>>33344527
Yeah, that's also being assholes, even if allowed. Applies for >>33344492 that too.
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>>33339445
IT'S ALMOST HERE!!!!
GO DIEGO GO!!
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>>33344528
lysandre has been doing this for years, but yeah this card is just better lysandre
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>>33344542
>being assholes
Lol no, in regionals you should expect some of your opponents to be cheating. Especially in top 8, it's not being an asshole.

Always, always, always, ALWAYS, shuffle your opponent's deck in any tournament with major points on the line. It's the only way to prevent your opponent from stacking decks.
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>>33344542

if you don't do your part in meticulously checking everything, then it just takes one cheater to take advantage and ruin it for everyone.
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>>33344542
He did the same thing with Tablemon according to Pablo and spectators.
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>>33344527
My local league has a tonne of players who've qualified for Worlds and I constantly get told by them that I'm stupid for not always shuffling my opponents' decks, even in casual games with nothing at stake.

>>33344542
It's not considered rude at all.
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>>33344575
You mean he was an asshole with Tablemoon too? Like checking and recheking discards, talking to the judge and trying his best to lose time? He did that for the whole top8?
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>Spics will win Worlds

THIS WAS USA'S MOMENT TO SHINE. BUILD THE WALL.
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>>33344628
Argentians are practically Europeans, even whiter than even nowadays even.
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>>33344636
>argentina
>white

go to bed ginobili
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>>33344636
>Argentina
>White
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>>33344625
None of that is being an asshole. All of that is normal stuff to do in this kind of setting, and nothing about the game going on right now suggests it's to purposefully stall for time. You've never seen slow play before if you think this is slow.
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>>33344636
>Argentina
>White
Okay Kirchner we believe you.
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>>33344625

I thought they were teammates? Why would he act maliciously towards tablemon?

Also its important to look through the discard pile since I'm sure both player memorized the opponents 60 cards last night.

Especially energy counts. That play won him game one.
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>>33344628

I'd rather spics win than Japan winning worlds AGAIN
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>every loser so far has lost to horrible luck
>next meta has no VS Seeker

It's not going to be a good year.
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>>33344670
This. Memorization is fuck-huge important. Knowing what your opponent has or does not at hand by cross-checking is vital.
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Sorry I'm new but is there a stream or somewhere I can see the tournament?
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>>33344687
>>33344670
Well, you can both keep licking the fatso butthole, I guess. I'll still think he's annoying in checking and re-checking Naoto's discards every thirty seconds,
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>>33344735
The official Pokemon twitch channel
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>>33344736
>Oh no how dare he play to win in a tournament!
Get fucked scrub
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>>33344740
Danke
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>>33344736
He's hardly checking it every 30 seconds, you sound unnecessarily mad over nothing.
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>>33344736
Literally every player will cheat and the judges are incompetent to stop them if you don't.
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>>33344735
Twitch /pokemon
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Keep finding Toxapex decks in ladder since friday, is there any reason for that?
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>everyone pronouncing guzma Gooze-muh

It's GUZZ. MA.

Guzz as in GUZZLE not GOOSE
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Are they forced to choose the prizes in order? Why don't they pick one from the middle and one from the top or any other combination?
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>>33344772
You're sure showing them on the pronunciation of a fake name that was never spoken.

>>33344785
There's no reason to, it's random regardless what you get, so they just go with the closest ones.
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>>33344785

They can take whatever prizes they want. Taking them in order is just autism
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>>33344785
I don't think they're forced to pick them in a particular order. It's just that it doesn't really matter so they all take a very straightforward order. They're all upside down and you can't know which is which so why be fancy?
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>>33344795
>You're sure showing them on the pronunciation of a fake name that was never spoken.

but it's as retarded as pronouncing N "nuh" or Lysandre "lie-sander"
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>>33344772
Commentators use the official pronunciation
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>>33344785
There's no reason not to take them in order.

There's also the risk that, if you are taking them out of order, people will be suspicious that you actually saw them when you were putting them down, and are intentionally picking them.
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N lmao
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Please god let it end
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Oh hey another clutch, unlikely topdeck in a close match. Funny how this happens every year over and over.
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>>33344528

Pretty much, the current $50+ price tag for a FA is completely justified.
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>>33344809
There's actually a pronunciation guide on the tournament resources page, but it hasn't been updated since Gen 5.
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>>33344827
Take your tinfoil hat off, it's embarrassing.
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>>33344835
>the only way out is his last field blower
>OH THERE IT IS
>he needs that DCE
>OH HE GOT IT OFF THE TOPDECK
>he needs to find Lysandre off this N to 1
>OH HE GOT IT

Every year.
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>>33342971
>Say that to me in masters and not in juniors and see what happens.

JAPAN
BTFO
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LATAM WON WORLDS


SUCK MY ASS MURICANS
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I'm glad it's over
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>>33344851
Like I said, it's embarrassing.
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>>33339445
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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>>33342971
AHAHAHAHA
FAGGOT
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>All of this shuffling-related bullshit.

TPCi really needs to invest in automatic deck shufflers.
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>>33344852
>3/4
Is this a set?
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SSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>33344869
Automatic shufflers are terrible, even if they don't fuck up your deck.
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>>33344851

if only there were some way to discard cards you don't need and thin the deck to maximize the probability of drawing the best cards...

no such a feat of skill would be beyond the capabilities of these world championship contenders.
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>I wanna be the very best didn't got played

Shitty tournament.
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>>33344869
Maybe just for finals or top 8 but yeah they really need something to make people stop freaking out about it and accusing the other players of cheating.
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>>33344869
The best way would probably be to get the table judges to do it.
It isn't really necessary and I'm pretty sure nobody experienced thinks they're cheating, but it's got enough shit from YouTubers to be relevant
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>Gardevoir won 2 out of 3 Divisions
Based
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Please tell me the prize is a week at a spa.
That dude needs it real bad.
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>>33344878

make them play with single-use proxies glued onto regular playing cards so they can use casino level shufflers without worrying about ruining their cards..
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>>33344885
He got N'd to 2 with a hefty remaining deck size. If only there was a way to shuffle while keeping track of where certain, essential cards are. It's not like anyone's ever gotten caught doing that, and it's not like every player constantly is on the lookout for it.
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>>33344900
All that's left is for Barudoru to win for his waifu's sake
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>>33344907
$25000 USD
So he could go to a spa if he wanted. Or pay to bling out his deck with Rainbow Leles and gold ultraballs.
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>>33344911
So why would i want to buy cards if they give them to me?
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>>33344625
shut the fuck up fucktard, you seem really new to TCGs
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>>33344912
>hefty remaining deck size

that's because he used Gardevoir's GX attack to fill his deck with field blowers and other useful cards you moron.

If he didn't topdeck the field blower he would have topdecked a sycamore and you'd be saying the same shit about how rigged it is that he drew a good card
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>>33344942
actually i've judged events at national and european level, but i was so bored i decided to troll you guys a bit while watching the finals. it was a nice match, but all the (You) were funnier. going back to my business now, but thanks for hanging out with me~!
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CUÁNTAS COPAS TENÉS TABLEMON DE MIERDA!


English antib&
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JAPON DECIME QUE ME SIENTE
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>>33344959
first he complained about Diego checking the discard pile many times now he complains about "lel he was cheating with the shuffling"
>>33344972
>I-I was just pretending to be retarded
fuck off
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>>33344972
>Hurr I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>33344985
>>33344996
now please go back and re-read my posts, "cum grano salis".
but thank you, if you insist i looked like a plausible retard that's a 8/8 to me
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>>33345017
you seem awfully incensed for a troll. Yeah, you were pretending to be retarded.

Also didn't you say you were going away?
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>>33344527
nah the other way round though. Diego's deck, he shuffles. Jap fella splits it. Diego splits it agin before drawing. It was the only time he did this additional split, and he got all the cards he needed co-incidentally. Not saying he cheated intentionally but I'm wondering if it's legal? I though you could only self-split if your opponent splits your deck three times or more, or fully shuffles it themself.
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Is there a breakdown of how many types of decks entered (Metagross, Garde, Volc etc) yet?

Was interesting looking at past events where you saw how far certain decks got, I think it was Liverpool regional where Tapu Bulu was played a lot and barely got anywhere despite so many people playing the deck.
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>>33340006
>he didn't see the senior match where Greninja couldn't get a consistent start
>he doesn't know Dive Ball is rotating

enjoy your dead deck
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>>33345062
You can only cut your own deck if the opponent shuffles it. The judge should have seen that shit
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>>33345083

Bulu and Volc have poor conversion rates because they beat them selves. Having lots in a tournament means that your going to play a lot of 50/50 games.
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>>33345257

every deck is 50/50 with itself, by definition
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So Gardevoir sweeped the TCG, huh?
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>>33345578
2 out of 3 divisions
Ninetales won Seniors
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>>33345590
>Ninetales won Seniors.

I figured as much, Seniors always has odd decks winning their tournaments.
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>>33344182
>le it's a kid's game meme
Fuck off, retard.
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Is there anything funnier than Koko/Aegislash in expanded? I think it's kind of shit in standard but dimension valley takes both Aegislash and Necrozma down to one attachment attackers.

Once baby Lele is legal that'll be a good card to throw in too.
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Where are the deck lists?
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>>33346235
https://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/worlds/2017/tcg-masters/
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>6/8 have garb in them and the other two are Garde
CANCER.
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>>33346207
Whats with the censored tiddies
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>>33346347
Can't show that on a christian board
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>>33346207
ARGENTINA POTENCIA.
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is it just me or is the only deck that can beat trev in expanded these days itself?

like if t1 goes reasonably well i literally never lose, i've had streaks of 30+ with this deck before.
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>>33340646
>>33340741
>>33340859
Alright. Does this also apply if I want secret and ultra rares? With N costing $70, Guzma $40, and tapu lele $55, blinging out a deck doesn't seem worth it at all.
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>>33346837
Blinging a deck is always secondary to putting it together in the first place and the odds of pulling bling cards is ridiculously low. If you want the best efficiency for your money, buying singles is ABSOLUTELY the best way to go about getting the cards you want, and aside from the few outliers like full arts and Lele most cards aren't all that expensive. You should never expect opening packs to give you what you want.
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>>33346938
Fair enough. Thanks for the advice!
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>Diego making a move on the girl
lol
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>>33345247
yeah that's what I thought. I wasn't paying that much attention though, maybe he was in the right. I just thought with all the fuss about shuffles yesterday, the judges would have been right on top of him for that. If anyone is re-watching, it's the middle of the first game the draw when he needed some combo like candy & Gardy & DCE from five and got them all.
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Got 33 packs for $90 from Gamestop since they're doing buy 2 get 1 free.
Sad.
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>tfw just pulled a mew prime

is there a better card in that set i should have wished for instead?
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>>33347833
This is why people suggest buying singles over packs. Nice choice band and box though.
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>>33348114
Celebi Prime is the Triumphant chase card. Worth 65+ packs. Otherwise, Junk Arm.
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Well, goodbye slightly-fast meta and welcome shitty slow meta. I will never forget the days of NM, Mega Fug and Memestoise.

I hope that at least Vs. Seeker gets reprinted at some point...
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Best time to sell Lele? Right after rotation?
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>>33348243
I wouldn't get your hopes up. They'll probably let N and Sycamore cycle out as well but they might print a Sycamore clone eventually.
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>>33348298
Who can fill the role of Oak/Juniper/Sycamore? Kukui already has a (shitty) card. His wife? Z-Lillie? Lusamine (which will probably be a supporter for Ultra Beasts)?
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>>33348288
After letting the price skyrocket over the next year. Lele isn't cycling out anytime soon and the farther we get from GRI the higher the demand is going to become.
>>33348325
Samson Oak, maybe? With cards like VS Seeker rotating and cards like Garbodor being printed though, it seems like they are trying to shift the meta away from the item and hand-refresh-heavy style they've had for so long. A smart idea? Maybe not. But only time will tell.
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>>33348325
Hala in conjunction with GX attacks, Wicke, Sophocles, Lillie, we're not really lacking in shuffle/draw support, but all of the cards out there are more situational than the general purpose discard/draw 7 and the effective shuffle 6 effect of N.
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Do you get anything extra for completing the 12 daily versus rewards? 5 coins seems suspiciously bad for the final reward.
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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

I swear that if Greninja tops worlds again or wins any division next year I'll smash my dick against a moving train.


Goodnight 2017, you were a good meta.
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>>33348494
jobfrog can never win anything, second's the best it can do.

Without dive ball it's even less consistent.
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>>33348427
The final reward is the last mystery box.
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>>33348494

Goodbye Mega FUG.
I hope the expanded format can treat you well.

;-;
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>>33348712
Fuck M-Fugg, literally masturbation.
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>>33348717
I get it, because Rayquaza looks like a wang.
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>>33348744
No, because it's the least interactive deck in the meta.
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I have two questions.
1. How many Leles GX would you usually need in a competitive deck?
2. Is 25 burning shadows pack for a full art lele on ptcgo a good trade?
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>>33348916
>1. How many Leles GX would you usually need in a competitive deck?
0-4
>2. Is 25 burning shadows pack for a full art lele on ptcgo a good trade?
Hell yes.
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>>33348884
That's not Volcanion.

>>33348916
>How many Leles GX would you usually need in a competitive deck?
The least for most decks is 2.

>Is 25 burning shadows pack for a full art lele on ptcgo a good trade?
Absolutely.
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>>33348916
For clarification, I'm the one with the lele trading for the packs.
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>>33348930
>The minimum*

Fuck.
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>>33348937
>For clarification, I'm the one with the lele trading for the packs.
Hell no.
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>>33348937
No you trade your Lele for 29 packs. or hold onto it
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>>33348950
29 is the average. You trade 25-28 for it, or it for 30-33.
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>>33348963
OK thank you all for letting me know that I'm getting scammed.
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>>33348930
In Volcanion Hoopa/Shaymin soltaire is a means to an end. In Megaray Hoopa/Shaymin soltaire is the end.
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>>33348983
>>33348983
>>33348983
New thread
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>>33346562

Darkrai can, heck even Yveltal can if it's still seeing play, weakness + dark patch makes it a real uphill climb for Trev.
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>>33348943
theyre not that great actually, i dont understand the lele hype to much. theyre great that they can set you up faster and even get you out of some tight situations but guzma and lysandre kill it, usually they can lysandre or guzma into a lele and set themselves up for a free kill. and imagine 2 lele's
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