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/vpwt/ - Pokémon Fanfiction General and Writethread

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Comfy edition

>Post your finds and ideas for prompts.
>Share your work and request critique.
>Discuss the struggle as a reader or writer.
IRC channel at [ #vpwritethread on irc.rizon.net ].
Previous: >>33069603

Fic catalogue:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PtN4D_9CSw8JJ9uO6v0oQqdtKEkS8aFAvfxqI96XfSE/edit?usp=sharing

Authors and anons looking for things to write may search our ideabin for something appealing.
Feel free to add prompts that you'd like others to consider.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X072SSWulcC6RJRrPA6v9XtyohRybvMBl6Fh49wHsRw

FAQ:
>How do I post fics?
Link to Pastebin, FFN, AO3, or G-Docs, etc. Don't write stories to the thread itself.

>NSFW fics?
Indicate "NSFW" beside the link.

>May I add my fic to the catalogue?
You're free to do so. Please use the submission form found inside the catalog.

>What's with the tripfags?
Authors are encouraged to use a name/trip while posting or discussing their work for clarity's sake.

TotT: Have you ever wrote self insert fanfiction?
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First and after orbiting Saturn, I returned, but with less liberal ideas UwU.
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writing a polygamy lemon soon
>>33168456
>not iupiter
why
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>>33168377
oh hey a new thread. Guess I should do that recap thing.

Fic Recap:

Seasons writes a short story about a trainer watching fireflies with his Pokemon. SFW
https://pastebin.com/XSXFXWpX

SexTheHex makes a fic based on Pokemon GO crowds. NSFW
https://pastebin.com/YVTYC7su

An anon makes a greentext about Roserade wanting to shed a few pounds. NSFW
https://pastebin.com/1ertFU0B


Updated Fics:

Manifest Destiny's The Dark Type chapter 19
http://archiveofourown.org/works/9113758/chapters/25975164

Traipsingexodus's Au Coup Par Coup chapter 10
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12009986/10/Au-Coup-Par-Coup
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>>33168456
shut up tripfag
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>>33169575
do you know what a trip is, anon
he's a namefag, not a tripfag
(he sure seems to be tripping in another sense of the word, though)
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>>33169546
I updated First Contact to chapter 4 in the previous thread: http://archiveofourown.org/works/11323233/chapters/26174613
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>>33169588
hes is a trip fag and a namefag

a fagfag
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Attention:

This is a public announcement from the National Pokecenter Association. An unhealthy trend has started among sexually deprived trainers that deserves some attention. Young adults have been utilizing the Pokemon Ditto to realize every one of their sexual fantasies. This is a serious health risk and should not be taken likely. Ditto x Trainer sex can result in multiple health risks including but not limited to:

- Addiction
- Nymphomania
- Complete symbiosis and fusion with the Ditto used

For more information, we recommend watching BuzzNav entertainment’s upcoming special segment on Ditto sex to see the horrific consequences of this immoral act.

https://pastebin.com/TMtJrHMW

(NSFW and weird as fuck. Contains goo girls, selfcest, creepy stuff with tongues, massive pregnancies, futa, and transformation)
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>>33169640
On /vp we're all fagfags, just with varying autism sprinkled in.
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>>33169804
This sounds like a can't-look-away train wreck. I'm game.
>…
You took an idea with plenty of range, put it in the oven, and forgot to turn the knob that makes it get hot inside.
[critique withheld]
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>>33170472
>[critique withheld]
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>/vpwt/ Bad TotT edition
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>>33170589
My opinion wasn't requested, and however short my expression of it, it seemed a little mean, because usually I aim for educational or find one positive thing to point out.
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A fag requesting a Pokeshipping story, preference for Serperior x Hilbert or Eonshipping. Also some with Zoroark or Delphox... Or with about the relationship between BW prota.
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Uploaded a new chapter of Heaven's Slice, and revised the prologue. Even got some fancy artwork for the story's cover.

>Ao3
http://archiveofourown.org/works/11428515?view_full_work=true

>FFN
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12562146/2/Heaven-s-Slice

Both will be kept current, although Ao3 has me swooned by its prolific text formatting features and is my preference.

>Synopsis
SFW adventure about a thief and her partner in crime with Pokémon Conquest elements. Trainers are more engaged in the flow of combat akin to a Pokémon Tabletop United setting. Some crime, some action, [spoilers]two claws up.
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Oh yeah. Uh, I updated the catalog, finally, after a little over 6 months of waiting. Sorry about that, everyone who waited.

HOWEVER! To that end, I've appointed two friends from the IRC - that's Krouscht and Vryheid - to assist me in maintaining the catalog. Hopefully, there will be less of a wait to get in now as they tend to be much more attentive than I am. So, look forward to that, I suppose.
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>>33168456
How many times do we need to teach you this lesson, young man?
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>>33168377
>TotT

I'll be honest, early stages of TDT were pretty self-inserty, since I started writing it over 7 years ago and it was my first writing project. Since then I've tried my best to stray away from that sort of thing. Who knows if I succeeded or not.
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>>33172039
He's joining forces with latinanon, they're evolving into a more advanced cancer.
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Friendly reminder to any aspiring romance writers that "slow burn" does not mean "they start making passes at each other in chapter five".

Sincerely,
Sick of This Shit
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>>33173567
Sounds like someone bit off more than they could chew.

Chin up, friend. You'll be f- well, I mean, it'll be oka- well. It will be over with eventually.
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>>33173567
Is your hypothetical 'chapter 5' too soon then?
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>>33173567
After writing so much "falling in love" romance I've sort of grown tired of the entire process. I'd much rather just start with a couple that's already at some point in their relationship than have them work towards it.

I realize that there appeal of romance is often the "how did this happen" angle, but it's just so much more appealing now to be able to write the little moments of an established couple, along with the quirks, spats, and compromise. It is also, admittedly, infinitely faster.
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>>33173584
I keep running into fics tagged "slow burn", but they usually jump right into the romance. I'm more interested in reading about two real people legitimately "falling" in love than about two characters flirting a lot before they fuck.
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>>33173627
I prefer "medium burn." Especially when there's nothing but uninteresting filler in between the slow burn.
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>>33174456
>>33173627
Last time I tried to write romance in a fanfic (2013), the guy saw the girls chest by the 3rd chapter.
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Improve your romance writing in two easy steps: no blushing and no stuttering.
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>>33174862
r u 4 real
post an example, I need to see this
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>>33174862
what if we write out the stuttering like he's mumbling before he approaches the girl just like in real life?
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>>33174842
LEWD!

>>33174901
>what if we write out the stuttering like he's mumbling before he approaches the girl just like in real life?
Portray the character, don't portray the trope, or next you'll have him rub the back of his neck because you've seen that gesture used as a symbol of nervousness in Japanese toons and comics. If the character would incidentally introduce defects into his speech because of halting or response-monitoring behaviors, that's fine, but if you make such behaviors as tropes your target, it'll appear to be either melodramatic or unbalanced against the portrayal of the girl he's bothering because she'll be reduced to a foil for him to regress to infantile twitching around.

BUT THIS IS NOT ROMANCE (as >>33174862 indicates).

If you're anywhere near girl-induced blushing or acute stuttering (there are actual stutterers of course, but that's chronic), you're portraying awkward, gameless, juvenile behaviors. It's so far from romantic that the comedy (as exploited by "the boy tries to get a girlfriend" episodes of 22-minute family-life-centered situation comedies) is that the flailing efforts at being romantic are tokens or flops and really serve only to improve revenue for outfits that offer roses for sale and tuxedos or limousines for one night rental come promenade night.

Please, do everyone a favor, and make the kinds of scenes we've all seen on every television show a hundred times your last resort. Remember a situation that you experienced or observed in your past that involved awkward meetings and turn them up to eleven or imagine how else they could've worked out, and if they're interesting, write those. We'll like them better than a re-enactment of something a sitcom hack copy pasted into a script as filler to make a deadline.
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>>33173599
most people who write "falling in love" romance are dateless virgins who can hardly fathom anything past that point.
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I'm thinking more about an old scientist that, used to be a good person until mad by the despair of being treated like a stupid because he can't train Pokémon he does a deal with an old evil entity.
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>>33175417
Ha... it's funny because it's accurate...
But really, a lot of these neckbeards don't understand that sex isn't the goal of a romantic relationship and that there is more to life than smecksy times.
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>>33175910
You are talking about the most important thing of the life, its meaning itself. The love if you see from the biology is not more than a pheromones effect and a consequence of the own mortality of the living beings.
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>>33175943
Yeah mate, and that doesn't make it any less interesting to write about. Sure, sex is great and one of my favorite activities but it doesn't make for compelling characters alone. It's why romance is sought after in the first place, budding or established - the things that tie into and surround what is basically just a biological mandate are appealing and interesting, especially when you are looking at unusual situations and whatnot.

Also:
>meaning of life is to fuck
>not being an absurdist in current year
Or whatever it is you believe.
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>>33175943
>the most important thing of the life
…is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
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>>33176098
Or I could easily convince someone about that is best to transcendence than reproduce. I mean to be inmortal by the tech. The ridiculous things is that the machines bare fueled by the logic of their objectives, instead the humans and living beings are fueled by emotional things, so a human without feeling must be ordered like a machine, but is rare that achieve things only because s/he liked it.
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>>33176151
I like you
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>>33176152
Oh god damn it Space. You've tricked me for the last time! I like transhumanism as much as the next nerd but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
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>>33176203
How unfortunately. Then I must only write something about the human Psyche. But also I must understand it, to get something useful.
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>>33176270
Ok, godspeed Spaceman.
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>>33177161
Lul
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>>33176270
why don't you head over to /lit/? they'd probably like your ideas
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>>33178919
>when you let somebody out of your clique read your fanfiction.
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>>33178919
>>33178997
Relevant.
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>>33178997
>when you let somebody out of your clique read your fanfiction.
Implying my clique existed to begin with.
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>>33179286
It exists, but perhaps you've failed to turn up for its meetings.
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>>33179355
Wouldn't be the first time I've failed. Failure is certainly not the worst thing in the world. Rather, it is an opportunity for personal growth, as cliché as that may sound. Presuming what you say is true, my only pertinent question is: how on earth did I miss the memo?
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>>33179956
autism
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I'm going ahead with my first Pokemon fanfic, but there's one thing I'm having trouble with. So this is a PMD fanfic, and the two main characters are a Mienshao and a Sawk. I decided to name Mienshao Lotus, but I'm not sure what to name the Sawk. I was thinking of something relating to plants or a flower like what I did with Lotus, but I don't think that fits his personality well.

His personality is admittedly on the cliched side, but it goes as follows - he's somewhat immature and stubborn, and if he has his mind set on something, there's no point stopping him, even when he's wrong. But at the same time, he is really great at using all sorts of moves. Not that he's strong by any means, but he can use moves in creative ways and uses them more as a way to trap Pokemon rather then outright hurt them. He is also a lover of mythology and treasure hunting. However, his love for treasure hunting has made him become an outlaw for 5 years. It was only recently until he got arrested, but after that, he's now unsure where to go next, between his arrest and the fact that not even his hometown wants him back anymore.

For a long time, I used the name Jay for him, but I wanted to name him something different because it doesn't fit him all that well. I'm looking for a name that somewhat fits his personality. If there's anything you want for me to clarify regarding his character, please let me know!
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>>33181105
Consider what a name is in the PMD world. Of course the MC is going to have one, but aside from simple identification, why do you think your partner has one? They're always natural-born locals, and it's not often that pokemon bother with names to begin with. In order to achieve a certain level of depth that soothes a reader's suspension of disbelief, and to deliver an important character trait, you have to examine what it means for that partner to have a name. Is it a title, are they known for something specific? Is it self-given, are they perhaps narcissistic or simply eccentric enough to set themselves apart from others? What meaning does it have to others?

If you're going to go for the vegetation theme, I'd probably recommend thinking a little more obtuse. For a stubborn character, I'd probably go with the name of a tree like Cypress or Aspen or something. Keep in mind you can still give reason as to WHY they have a name like that in the first place instead of just being Sawk.
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>>33181186
Hmm, I haven't thought about it that way. My line of thinking was that any character that is important to the story has a nickname, but that really isn't a good idea for a world like PMD. I'll give it a little more thought for all of my characters, because it's true that most characters in the PMD games aren't named. I guess for a character like this Sawk, I would say that it's self-given, due to his arrogance.
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Morning bump
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Microsoft Word stopped working. I can't even open anything in safe mode. I guess WordPad will have to do right now...
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>33180126
Cool buzzword.
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>>33183377
>Not using our lord and savior Notepad
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>>33181105
Honestly, your Sawk isn't the only thing cliched about this. You named your azn mon Lotus. There are tons of other chinky flowers for you to choose from.

>>33181186
>Consider what a name is in the PMD world
something given only to the player and his partner for the sake of simplicity in-game. I find it hard to believe that everyone being nameless representatives of their species is a hard-defined part of the worldbuilding.
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>>33183427
>notepad
Mimiga pls. Notepad is for notes and more or less nothing more.
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>>33183534
Why write a story when you could just write a swath of extremely detailed notes about it and then lose your motivation to translate them into prose?
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>>33183557
Mainly cos I find writing the story wholesale is way easier than translating notes into prose. My notes are bloody scarce and mostly contain world building chunks that I hash out on IRC.

You should try writing all your extremely detailed notes as prose and see if that gets you somewhere better.
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>>33183585
>You should try writing all your extremely detailed notes as prose and see if that gets you somewhere better.

That's how I started writing in the first place, back in high school. I was doing a single-player RP in some vidya and decided that I wanted to actually write out one of the battles. Never stopped since.
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Question:

What would you consider your personal favorite fic?
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>>33183670
My own stuff. Seriously. That's why I write it.
>Inb4 autism memes
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>>33183489
I was thinking of Lotus since Mienshao itself is based on a few things on Buddhism (lotuses play a big role in said religion), and that lotuses are symbolised as purity and healing, which is one of Lotus's core personality traits. But I'm definitely not opposed to giving her a different name. Do you got any flower names from the top of your head?
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>>33183670
Summer Days and Autumn Skies
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>>33183700
>>33183744
Mind posting links? I'm kinda bored at work.
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>>33183805
No way, I ain't linking a ponyfag fanfic in the middle of /vp/.

Try starting some of the larger PMD fics, I'm sure they're pretty easy to find in any ff search engine.
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This is what my folder address bar looks like.
I suspect that this is part of the reason that Microsoft Word won't open.
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>>33183805
Check the catalogue, should be there. Sorry, but not going to directly link because my previous post is begging for harassment. Your favorites are something you discover, and they're subjective. Pursuing through the catalogue should abate your boredom.
>>33184076
What version of word?
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>>33183670
If we're talking pokémon my choice would be Regret by Crukix. It's length and edginess appeal to me, though it's been a while since I've gone through the pokémon section to find new gems.
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>>33183742
I submit that your reasoning for choosing the name is sound. It's just a lousy coincidence that it's something of a stereotype. If what you're really going for is symbolism, then I'm not sure if there's an alternate name that would capture you, but here are some suggestions:
peony (nobility)
magnolia (femininity)
camellia (sons & daughters)

I frequently name my characters after flowers, so I'm kind of invested in the "language".
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>>33184076
Remove Microsoft
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>>33183670
My favorite pokemon fics are probably Pedestal, Antumbra by Haptronym, and In A Blue Moon by chatterchot.
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>>33184097
Word 2016.
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>>33184076
Try performing a reset, and if doesn't work. Look if you could use the restore utilities to revert to a previous state.
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>>33184076
Sometimes, restarting explorer.exe may help. If that doesn't work, then restarting the PC will.

If that still doesn't work, install Gentoo.
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>>33184500
Agreed, something similar recently happened on my PC. Luckily I had been working on my writing on my other computer and it didn't get rid of my Word documents anyway.

>>33183670
PMD: Breath of Life would have to be my favorite. It's what inspired me to write fanfiction: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8334499/1/Pokemon-Mystery-Dungeon-Breath-of-Life

>>33181105
For names in PMD, I just use ones based on a mixture of nature and personality, or just different abbreviations of what the Pokemon is called. In First Contact, the partner Bayleef's name is Chik, short for Chikorita. However, I would consider that in tightly-knit villages, names may be seen as handed down from previous generations and/or as a symbol of status, while in cities or large towns they would be a necessity with many of the same Mons in one area. Memega did a pretty good job exploring this a bit in one of his latest chapters of Snekquest.
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requesting a fic about a fed-up trainer bullying their rotomdex
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>>33184500
Okay. Turning it off and on again fixed the problem.
I'm still going to use WordPad to write more, though.
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How do you all work up the nads to post your work here, I feel nervous even just contemplating it
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>>33186621
As long as nothing leads back to you IRL or any other account you want to keep separate from the filth there aren't many consequences that accompany sharing you autism with the anons here. I've already failed at the previous spoiler, don't be like me
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>>33186621
I know how you feel. When i first started out, I was afraid anything I'd post would either get completely ignored or ripped to pieces with negative comments/feedback.

What ended up happening was much less than I was stressing out about. I believe I only ever got 1 real source of 'negative' feedback, and that was shortly after posting my works here in these threads. But hey, it's 4chan. This place breeds negativity often. It comes with the territory of the internet in general.

Just know that you can't please everyone, and you'd be a fool to try. Just do your best with your work and be proud you've created something.

>>33186660
I'm so sorry. I know that feel as well.
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>>33186660
I'm not scared of anyone finding out my identity, I use throwaways. The idea of being told exactly how much I suck is just unnerving, I guess.

>>33186700
Alright, I'll try my best to get something presentable to show you guys. This place seems pretty lax, though I've only been lurking a few days.
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>>33186621
As someone who's working to go into a field that requires criticism for everything you do, you just get used to it.
The best thing I can say is that everything you is judged by others, not just things you make, but actions you take. So, it's best to understand that there WILL be someone out there that will say something "negative" per say, but there may be as many or more that will say something positive. You'll never know until your try.

Speaking of posting stories, I've finished the first chapter of that practice piece turned into story: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12598452/1/Barred-Hearts

Pic related is the meeting between the two main characters.
Took me three tries to get that down without looking like utter ass and making the sneasel actually look like a runt.
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>>33186621
Nervous about what?
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>>33186784
About sucking, my dude

>>33186782
That's fair enough. I really ought to not be so squeamish, it's all an effort to improve and impress people.
Interesting story, I'll take a peek
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>>33186716
>The idea of being told exactly how much I suck is just unnerving
>>33186948

If you're told that you suck at writing, then you know that you need to sharpen your writing skills if you want to get good at writing. How is this a bad thing?

It's only a bad thing if one has allowed oneself to be conned and conditioned to wager their self-esteem not on themselves but on their activities, because thus not divorced from their works, such people adopt criticism of said works as criticisms of self.

Choose not to be that way and to stop when you notice that you accidentally have; it's a character flaw and offers you no advantages.

My first effort got savaged and rightfully so. I took all the criticisms one at a time and either resolved each or found a deeper flaw that a criticism was a symptom of, and I stopped making those mistakes. In one powerful stroke, I cut criticisms from being called on genuine sloppiness down to picky bits—many of which are matters of opinion or choice through artistic license—and occasionally rubbing somebody the wrong way. Given that nobody can please all of the people all of the time, I'm comfortable with that, but not so comfortable that I stop adopting improvements when I discover them.

Yes: When you step into the spotlight some people will shout obscenities from the shadows. That part of their nature is why they're in the bleachers instead of the field. And others in the light may drop some jewels on you. They'll have sharp points because they're finely cut; gifts of the lessons that those who give them to you learnt the hard, slow, or tedious way. Choose to accept them, or cast them aside; in the latter case, you'll be bending over to pick them up later, likely with a twinge of regret in your arching back.

Such is the path of a contender, a path that few have the courage to walk down, despite it only requiring that one foot be put in front of the other and that it be taken at one's natural pace, whatever that speed may be.
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>>33186992
Well then, it's evident that I'm just an enormous pussy
Starting to think I'm better off just observing, but thanks for the wise words, you certainly aren't wrong
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>>33187098
But to exist, one must act. Even critique has an art and style to follow.
Also, we must consider the need for new blood and ideas, lest we turn into /vg/.
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how do I, as a near-virgin neckbear, learn to write lewd that isn't cringey awkward mess
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>>33187203
write what you think is romantic/sexy but keep it within the realm of how real people would behave (stop with the comedic porn, it's shit), and post for criticism, hopefully from non-virgins
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>>33186716
Well you're not going to be told how much you suck (save for some jokesters)
You're going to be told how much what you made sucks, and from that, you will learn how to improve it
No one's gonna encourage you not to write. We're going to encourage you to write well.
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>>33187203
Well that's gonna come down to what sort of lewd you're trying to pull off there son. If you're going for explicit lewd (heavy detail) then you're going to have to learn how to weave the tale in a such a way that it doesn't come off as gross - and that means you're going to have to read a lot of explicit stuff. Good and bad alike, because they teach you what you like, what to look for, and what others like.

Alternatively, if you're trying to write lewd that's more subdued and relies on implication and titillation, then you're going to...have to do the exact same thing. Consume good and bad works to get an understanding of what works and what doesn't.

Writing either kind of lewd requires practice and awareness of your prose, so don't be discouraged if your first few attempts are less than stellar or even outright cringe - if you practice you'll eventually get it.

You'll also want to make sure you're writing appropriate reactions, actions, emotions, etc. for the subjects. Sex isn't always this one-hundred percent serious affair where both sides are just straight fucking with no communication outside of announcements of imminent orgasm. Sometimes you goof up. Or they do. Or one of you falls off the bed. Or knees the other in the eye. Don't ask. And sometimes it really is just wild, poorly constrained lust.
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Here's [The Dark Type] Chapter 21, "Helping Hand": http://archiveofourown.org/works/9113758/chapters/26318520

Also in case you missed it, Chapter 20 was posted last thread but was overlooked in the recap: >>33125988
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>>33183670
>my personal faves
See >>33183700 - there is a much truth to the thing that you have to be your #1 fan (and your #1 critic)

Other than that, Black Albino by Annarti, Nightmare from Dragonfree, Momma's Boy from txteclipse and Ironside from Firebrand are about the favest stories I can think of atm... Black Albino was the fic that inspired me to worldbuild for Pokémon.

>>33184076
install gentoo

>>33184404
install libreoffice

>>33186992
That read kinda beautiful, what were you smoking and where do I find myself some?
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>>33188575
>what were you smoking and where do I find myself some?
Who needs drugs when you're high on life?
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To all aspiring writefags wanting to succeed, you can do it!
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how do I write a cult classic that will be remembered for years to come

that's what I'm hoping for my novel
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>>33189500
Simple.

You start the cult yourself.
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>>33189467
Thanks anon
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>>33189504
Gonna have to git gud at social media then
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>>33189467
Wave your fucking miracle lights for prose
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>>33189500
Take a tired archetype, add some nifty things on the side, and promote it.
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>>33189500
Seek excellence in all that you do. Show your readers that you really went the extra mile.
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I did something that gave me lots and lots of ideas last night.
I just started typing in WordPad... and didn't stop.
Moving from one piece of content to the next, I was interviewing one of the characters, asking them about their world.
Of course, my spelling and grammar was atrocious. Reading it makes me cringe for that reason. It got particularly bad near the end (when I was phasing in and out of sleep)
>Sotp littering, if you know what's good dor you. crie the offiecers with the ir hands gons being held, pointed at the peropatrators. Youl'vneever stop me ! he said with a smirk, the skreen becan to change agian, revealing that it was the creatorsz of Garrys' mod who wer really fighting over which vampire that Belle that she would take to the ball. I found that irregular, but that's also the reason that I sotped sponing spoke crakcine. Todn't do druges kids. I don't do them, and see how bad my typing is anyway, akllready. Don't stope beleiffving. Let in inthe thead of the unckown conschiouslness. There is nothing to see here, move along kids, n o seriously, there 's absolutley nothing. Belas stope now~~~~

But that's because my eyes were closed.
Over time, I should improve at typing with my eyes closed.
Something about my computer keyboard, however, feels inadequate for the fastest typing possible. As if mistakes are necessary.

I think that you should approach any story like Michelangelo did sculpting: he presupposed that the figure was already in the block, and needed to be uncovered.
Your story already exists in the aether, and you just need to write it out of your head.
Prewriting stuff will make this process easier.
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>>33191928
>"Stop littering! if you know what's good for you." cry the officers, with their hands guns being held, pointed at the perpetrators.
An example of the rhetorical device of syllepsis, clearly done by accident, with the word "held". As is wont to happen when you're working off your imperfect memory.
>"You'll never stop me!" he said with a smirk.
>The screen began to change again, revealing that it was the creators of Gary's Mod who were really fighting over which vampire that Belle would take to the ball.
>I found that irregular,
A little bit of self-awareness here. This was random nonsense at this point. I was feeling a bit silly, as well. Having been overjoyed at what I fleshed out earlier in the interview.
>but that's also the reason that I stopped doing "coke crackaine". Don't do drugs, kids. I don't do them, and see how bad my typing is anyway, already.
Sheesh. Sometimes I'm like a Markov Chain.
>Don't stop believing. Let in the thread of the unknown consciousness.
?
>There is nothing to see here. Move along kids. No seriously, there's absolutely nothing. Please stop now!
?
Just proving to myself now that I can fix any garbled text that I leave to myself. It may be better to type fast and badly, correcting mistakes later, than to type slowly.
Of course, if it's all prewriting crap, it won't actually matter if anyone else has trouble reading it.
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>>33191821
Study the lost art of rhetoric.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_rhetorical_terms
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>>33184253
I like your naming scheme. Figured I'd throw this out there if you're still around as I'd be interested in what you think. Writing about a Mienfoo. Thing is he's male so a flower won't work.
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Could someone explain something for me?

Why do some some authors use 'sex' as a term for vagina like
>he gently rubbed her sex
I've only ever seen it used like that in fanfiction. Is it just an American thing?
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>>33193775
Lemon writers focus so tightly on the ponos and vagooo that they quickly delve for alternative, suggestive, and euphemistic word replacements to ease repetition. This, despite lemons being at their core repetitive descriptions of repetitive motions.

Also, unless he's gently penetrating, the correct term for your example is "vulva."
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>>33193180

[AUTISTIC WORLDBUILDING AHEAD]

First off, it makes a difference whether you're writing about mainline pokemon or PMD's civilized mons. There are a number of floral names that would be masculine enough for a male character, or could at least be shortened to a masculine nickname. However, main series mons don't seem have the advancement of language that would allow for a concept of "shortening the word that others refer to you by." Their only concept of nicknames is the alternate name their trainer gives them (for my work I establish that they have pokemon-language names in addition to their human-given names). If you're writing for PMD, you could go ahead and name your mienfoo Paul(ownia) or (amaryl)Lis.

For non-PMD mons, I try to establish a "naming culture" for the inhabitants of a specific area. For example, one of my characters, a forest bug, is named for an image of forest foliage. All others in the area, even different species, have the same penchant for imagery names. However, pokemon aren't all that creative. Depending on the location, a variation of "Rose" is a common name for a budew's parents to assign it, not just unimaginative trainers.

What I'm saying is that I try to develop what culture a mon would be named in before I choose their name. Naming a male pokemon Violet or Myrtle might sound weird to us, but would it be weird to them? Furthermore, a trainer might name her poliwag Jennifer, but Jennifer isn't a word. The only way anyone would know its meaning would be to research it--in which case, the trainer may tell the poke, and the poke can then introduce themselves as "Fair-One".

So that's enough of that. I can offer some suggestions for your mienfoo:

Aster (remembrance)
Edelweiss (courage/power)
Narcissus (self-esteem)
Angrec (royalty)
Arum (faith and purity)
Larkspur (strong affection)

Honestly I just look up lists of flower meanings. They're often different between cultures, so it's quite the educational experience.
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>>33193775
It's something they do in old romance novels. Probably a holdover back when you couldn't write words like vagina without violating an obscenity law.
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>>33194852
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks anon.
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>>33194852
Actually, the usage of "sex" to mean genitals predates the usage of "sex" to mean sexual intercourse.
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What's an idea or premise you'd like to see written about or would like to write about yourself?
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>>33196506
Pokepark 2 tsunsnivy oshawott modern, perhaps some postgame stuff. I tried writing about it once but MoM takes all of my motivation and concentration.
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I have a better idea. Mmm. So whats about an old alien generational ship that because a failures in its system falls in the Pokémon world. So the Captain facing the brink of doom of the passengers, uses his loyal AI in order to gate the necessary resources for the Spaceship, but covered in the form of a young trainer.
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>>33194225
This is a bounty of cool concepts, sorry I could not respond sooner. The trainers each have their own naming patterns or culture is neat and what you're saying about PMD being in a different state than the typical trainer and mon archetype makes perfect sense to me. I like the suggestions you provided for both verses. I'm going to look into meanings and educate myself since it sounds fun. Thanks a bunch.
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>>33197469
So exactly how many "better ideas" are you going to have, Kardashev Scale-anon?
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Chapter 5 of Errant's Hearth: Holy Shit I Wrote It In Two Days Edition or Wow, Glory Is Weird Edition is now live!

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12140893/5/The-Errant-s-Hearth
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7991302/chapters/26351652
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>>33198133
I thought you'd entirely given up on it. Been so long that I think I'll do a re-read of the previous four, before this one.

Looking forward to it.
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>>33198156
I hope you enjoy it anon! Sorry for the delay, but my focus has been primarily on ACPC since it's really getting into gear.

I haven't forgotten about Only Viridian either but that probably won't get updated for another few months maybe.
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I'm planning out school schedules for three characters.
I did not foresee how far back I would need to write the past, to make the kind of friendships that I wanted. Middle school, that is. So we're also dealing with middle-stage Pokémon evolutions. It's nice, since they seem to be underused.
So I have to envision how a school for Pokémon, run entirely by Pokémon, even works.
That also means telling stories from three different perspectives. And fleshing out their class schedules. A whole lot of stuff, really.
Nonetheless, it's a good experience.
It's funny how you get totally absorbed in this stuff when you want it to make sense. Sometimes I don't know what I want, until I start doing it. It makes for a more organic story, really.
But I really want to explain why the two friends become antagonistic towards the main character. Where they're coming from, so to say.
In order that their behavior may seem more believable.
It makes me feel like a monster, abusing my characters.
>Galba had a hard life. No, it wasn't just because of his species.
Note: he's an Absol.
>He was more accustomed to living in harsher conditions. His home was a shack, accompanied with a small enclosure in a fence carrying a few platforms, and secondly a tarpaulin spread on top of four posts, for to stay when it rained. Facing the road leading up to his residence was a series of hedges, firstly to give the illusion of privacy, secondly so that his house could be distinguished from the two similar ones on the left and right side. A post, bearing a "house" number, stood next to the road connecting the main road to his house.
The shack isn't the home.
>The grass had several spots of deadness.
>Veliocasses, his father, was single. "Saltus" was his nickname.
>He owned an unprofitable nightclub, in which he often stayed for nights, leaving Galba alone.
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>>33197678
Glad you found worth in my unnecessarily-detailed concept (half the characters I mentioned don't exist anymore because I removed them from fics). Also, I want to clarify a bit, the cultural naming schemes I implement in my "version" of the pokemon world refer to what pokemon call each other in their own underdeveloped languages, not what trainers nickname them. Trainers would obviously have name schemes indicative of their cultures (for example, 4th grader culture--how many 10 year olds do you think named their glameows "Kitty"?) but that doesn't need much exploration since you can just copy/paste from RL.

Example:
You've got a medicham. You name him Monty. This means nothing to pokemon because Montgomery isn't a word used in contemporary English speech (in contrast with say a Japanese name, which would under most circumstances be a combination of words that have some attractive meaning). The other mons on your team indicate to this newcomer that they want to know what to call him. He tells them his name is Delta, for the coastal wetland he was born on. This "real" name might be communicated to the trainer at some point, but I imagine mons would rarely have the ability to communicate so clearly. Make sense?
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>>33198297
>Link to Pastebin, FFN, AO3, or G-Docs, etc. Don't write stories to the thread itself.
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>>33197469
>MY OC GETS TRANSPORTED TO THE POKEMON WORLD
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>>33197469
Cool beans. Now go write it.
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>>33198297
>that everything
You have an addiction to the Enter button. Please seek help.

>so to say
so to speak

>why the two friends become antagonistic towards the MC
Take cues from stories that have instances like this. In a certain show, one of the MC's earliest friends becomes her bitter rival because the MC keeps unintentionally one-upping her in everything, in combination with the two characters being from opposite factions. If there's inspiration to be taken from this, be my guest.

>that infodumping
Don't summarize the character's sob story. Make it an actual scene.

>nightclub
Is this PMD world, or just a high school AU?
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>looking for photos so I can finally visualize what my MC would look like as a real person instead of an animu
>finally find someone who is totally "her"
>it's an IRL princess
Will I ever escape from these cliches
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>It's been so long
>Where could she have gone?
>There used to be comfort in the darkness
>It was your home
>Now it's nothing more than a prison
>It feels hollow where once it used to feel safe and comforting
>Cold and empty where it used to feel warm and familiar
>That was long ago though
>There's no way of telling how many years have passed, decades maybe
>You can still see her face though clear as day
>She was beautiful, the most beautiful thing you'd ever seen
>Her long blonde hair would cascade down her shoulders like a drape framing her face
>You wish you could see her again
>At least one last time
>She was your best friend but now she was gone
>Now all that remains is the darkness
>And it has been dark for so, so long
>Your mind has begun to slow with the passage of time
>Thoughts drift wearily from one to the next never lingering long
>Hope once stained your heart with grief but that had died what felt like ages ago
>Now there's just the emptiness in the world and in your soul
>You cease your thoughts ready to give in to the blackness and let yourself fade away
>You can almost hear her voice calling you from beyond wherever you are trapped
>Calling you out to see her
>"Come on out Ginger!"
>Wait
>That was her voice!
>The world bursts into an explosion of color as you erupt forth from your shadowy hell
>And there she is before you smiling down like an angel from the heavens above
>You go to her and shower her with all the affection you can muster
>She's saved you from whatever form of demented torture the universe had sought to saddle upon you and so you could do nothing less than radiate the love you felt for her as you leapt into her arms
>You were finally free...

>You look down at your growlithe
>She was wagging her tail furiously and nearly jumping into your arms as she attempted to lick every square inch of you
"You just had to be inside the ball for five minutes so the nice nurse could heal you, geeze..."
>Why does she always do this?
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You know I was writing a story a few months ago and I asked for some criticism he and this guy gave me some long well written constructive criticism. So I went to rewrite it but I realized instantly that I had lost my momentum so I kind of just dropped it.

I have hesitated to come back for a couple reasons the biggest one being that even if I correct all of the mistakes. It's my writing style so how am I supposed to stop myself from making the same mistakes without realizing it.

I'm thinking about coming back and just ignoring most of the advice. Not because it wasn't good, I really appreciated it. But rather because I realized I was taking it WAY too seriously. It's just a lousy fanfic, who cares if it blows goats knowing the type of sheep who browse fanfiction and AO3 I'll probably still get showered in praise no matter how garbage it is.

/end blogpost
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>>33198536
SEE:
>>33198351
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>>33198539
>who cares if it blows goats
Ultimately, it should be you. You might get a readership off half baked prose, but if you're looking to write because you want to tell a story and tell it well, then the praise that does nothing but shove blind approval down your throat is going to ring hollow pretty fast. It doesn't have to be perfect, whatever it is you write, but it should have effort. And whatever you write after, if you write after, should strive to surpass your previous work.
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>>33198568
I think I may have exaggerated.
I don't write poorly and there's clear effort behind it. It's just that the aforementioned anon pointed out problems that the discerning eye would notice.
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morning bump
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>>33183670
https://archiveofourown.org/works/8801800
https://pastebin.com/SaYNdFy6
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>>33198407
>Uses of the English Infinitive:
>Adverbially, to express purpose, intent or result – the to-infinitive can have the meaning of "in order to ..." (I closed the door (in order to) block out any noise).
Grammaticaster.
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>>33198490
You should ask her out.

>>33198539
>I have hesitated to come back for a couple [of] reasons[,] the biggest one being that even if I correct all of the mistakes[, the mistakes are due to] my writing style[,] so how am I supposed to stop myself from making the same mistakes [again] without realizing it[?]
Or,
>I have hesitated to come back for a couple reasons[,] the bigge[r] one being…
if there are exactly two reasons, coupled.

>It's my style
Style isn't in the script but in how it's shot.

>how am I supposed to stop myself from making the same mistakes without realizing it.
By paying attention to yourself. At some point in time, you probably learned to discern the difference between a fart and a shit. It's like that, except you're preventing skidmarks in your TXT's instead of in your BVD's.

>I'm thinking about coming back and just ignoring most of the advice. … It's just a lousy fanfic
Cause, meet Effect; Effect, Cause.

>who cares if it blows goats knowing the type of sheep who browse fanfiction
You must have very low confidence in your writing skills if you need two barnyard analogies to deprecate your target audience before you can comfortably excuse your writing's flaws. Perhaps participating in that November writing game would help you along.
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>>33198582
Putting effort into something means putting more than minimal effort in. Not "it took me three months to write this unrevised unedited shit and I'm gonna put it up on fanfiction hoo boy was that an ordeal." You shouldn't half-ass writing, my man, you're doing yourself a disservice.
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>>33200403
please elaborate
if you're referring to my correction of someone using an established phrase incorrectly, then get fucked
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>>33198326
Yes. I appreciate the clarification. If the Pokémon has their own name, it's narration is obscured by their language. So a trainer would be giving a nickname to the Pokémon even though they have their own naming schemes amid their communities (like Delta). Being that the Pokémon language is not naturally understood by humans without some special means, this may go unnoticed unless it becomes somehow relevant in a plot device.

And even then, presuming a human could communicate to the Pokémon, what would be said about the name they chose for the creature?
>"By the way my real name is Delta, but I like that you called me _____ before you understood."
It could vary a lot depending on the species. A simple type of mon may give it little credence, whereas one that depends on psychic powers could engage it as the foundation of their mental bond. Which of course takes me back to the old conundrum of telepathic communication best saved for another post.
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>know what you want to say
>can't figure out how to write it out

The worst.
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>>33203263
A good trick I use, is to write what you want to be the last line of a paragraph or conversation and write from the first line to that point.
Your mind will try and think more lineally if there's a concrete end to what your writing- kind of like building a bridge. You build the two piers then work inward until it's done.
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I'm rereading Pedestal for old time's sake. I'm once again finding the narrator to be a somewhat unlikeble kid.
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Are there any hex maniac nsfw fics?
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>>33203879
https://archiveofourown.org/works/10831332
She's a bit messy, but should get the job done
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Does anyone have any good May (RSE) fics?
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>>33204834
There are some decent ones on FF.net if you want to look there, it's been a while so I can't name any from memory.

Beware all the junk though.
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ME while trying to figure out a good argument for application form to writer in Academic Life.
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https://pastebin.com/iRwqKfpX

I ballsed up and wrote something anyway, tell me what I can improve
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wow
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>>33206389
>https://pastebin.com/iRwqKfpX
>A world without spirit, emotion, or knowledge.
Fragment.
>Without any qualifier of the human soul, or any soul for that matter.
Fragment.
>Ironically[, it was] what he'd asked for, [] yet so far from what he'd envisioned seeing [during|after] his ascension to godhood.
>And make no mistake,
I, Reader, promise not to.
>he thought back at the ever returning tides of his thoughts: ["]I am a god.["] This was what kept him sane,
When Jyggalag met Sheogorath.
>in the isolation of the broken and distorted world /IT/ had made.
/lit/, you mean?
>The status of deity he'd assumed himself
Unclear: "Assume" can mean to take on a role (he chose to become a deity) or to accept with evidence but not proof (he can do deity things so that's how he explains it to himself in those tidal thoughts).
>and one he refused to [let] be contested, even now[,] so long after the showdown that had left him here[, sitting|standing|picking his nose] on a ridge floating above a waterfall.
What showdown? What here?
The last fragment is tolerable as a dramatic voicing by your narrator, but without a verb it's telling, not showing, thus undercutting the punctuation in the narration that using a fragment there is supposed to create.
>There were many arguments to be made [against] those descriptors.
Then why did we read them?
>Whether or not he was 'above' anything in a a world built so nonsensically, and whether or not the 'water' crashing down out of sight was really water at all.
FRAGMENT.
Attributing sense to Nature requires defining what is sensible.
>Time didn't progress in /IT/'s realm, and worldly needs like food, water, warmth, and sleep no longer hampered him.
Oh boy. Is this a two-dimensional time plane, or just purple poetic babbling?
How can anything ANYLONGER if time does not progress?
>It irked him.
I'm irked, too.

Improve by:
• Writing complete sentences.
• Showing more than telling.

Example revision to follow.
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>>33208616
>Cyrus recognized as best he could a world like no other: A world without spirit, expressing no emotion and respecting no knowledge, making no allowance for souls, human or otherwise. He knew is was this for which he'd asked, yet it was nothing like what he'd imagined to find through his ascension to godhood. Reminding himself of this fact, "I am a god," was the way he kept himself sane, now isolated in this broken and distorted world of another's creation. "I am a god, and I chose this," to attend the showdown that left him here, alone, perched upon a ridge that floated above a waterfall.

>So, he described it to himself. This existence so defied what he'd known of physical law that to be above what appeared to be falling water was a matter of perception, a perception he chose because perceiving it in other ways meant surrendering to this world's natural confusion. He'd never tried drinking from the fall to learn if it were water as he'd once known it. Shedding the limitations of humanity meant that thirst, hunger, exhaustion, and even comfort fell away from him. Without their imperatives, he found little use for whatever stepping away from mortality had given him. This world's, this labyrinth's, design meant that no number of eternities devoted to study or machination could bring order to its chaos. But one thing he knew for sure about it was that this world, a prison made to keep one monster within, now enclosed another kind of monster.



You're establishing a lot, quickly. That's OK, and needed when you open in another world. But you have a character living in it, so pipe it through his experience. Don't break the fourth wall ("And make no mistake…") when your reader first leans against it. We're "catching up" the reader on MC's experience, so we want to avoid dramatic irony (letting the reader know more than the characters) that forms when you tell too much ("Time didn't progress in…" even though you describe things happening).
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>>33208641
In a nutshell, you probably have a really good idea here, but you suffer from poor expression of it. Slogging through Fragment City, your narration sounds like you are taking the time to envision what you want to describe, but you aren't stepping back for the big picture to look at it objectively and find the best way to express to your reader what's happening in, around, and to that which you want to describe. Each fragment is an edge of what may be a jewel, but you aren't showing us how it sparkles. Part of this also may be you falling into a bit of Stream Of Consciousness mode despite the third-person perspective and the need for establishment making SOC impossible; if so, like the doctor whose patient said it hurts when he does this, "Stop doing that."

Hopefully my example will demonstrate (however well I understood what you were trying to describe) how to stitch those fragments into a portrayed experience for MC that Reader can sympathize with. However difficult it was for me to fight through three paragraphs to make this critique, after I recast it, I felt like I wanted to read more, so you've probably got a diamond of a premise here, but you need to get it out of the rough by writing about the experience of being in this world, not by writing about this world causing its inhabitant an experience.
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>>33208715
I appreciate your time, I'll take this all into mind
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>>33208641
Is dramatic irony something to be avoided?
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>>33209576
Avoided when it would spoil, embraced when it gives the reader something to be curious about.

For example, when a character helping the heroes does something that tips off the audience that he's really working with/for the villains but the good guys don't notice, it establishes some dramatic irony in a good way: The readers will now watch that character for signs of treachery and wonder when (and, if in time or not) the heroes will discover his deceit. The character now has two characterizations, the one apparent to the heroes and the one that the readers form from their position of advanced knowledge; dramatic irony is the measure of the gap between these. Plus, you now control the focus of the reader's attention and can play games with it like a stage magician.

Here, dramatic irony between MC's view of the world and the readers' does a disservice because it alienates the audience from the MC and toward The World as a character of its own, prohibiting much sympathy from developing; and this is exactly when you want your audience to be sympathetic so that they will identify with MC. I moved the focus onto his experiencing this world; even the telling establishment of this ream violating physical laws I frame as "what he'd known of physical law," focusing on his experience and making clear that this world can be real despite being irrational to him. Again: "water as he'd once known it," the focus is on him, his experience, and his transformation. Your take put scare quotes on, " 'water' ", and left it to the reader and the reader's experience with water and water-like substances to guess at what's being implied there. Your take made terms like " 'above' " explicitly undefined to the reader, I made them ambiguous to the protagonist. Now, the reader shares MC's experience, sees from his perspective, and is (hopefully :D) drawn into the story.

Once they're fastened in, then you can leverage things like dramatic irony to constructive effects.
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boop
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>>33210132
What about dramatic irony for the purpose of highlighting how the main character has grown throughout the story? For example, the MC/narrator saying something outright incorrect at the beginning ("people are all selfish"/"adults are never punished unjustly") but eventually learning that their worldview was flawed and learning more and more about real life.
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>>33212289
>for the purpose
You can do anything if it has a purpose, and if you're lucky your reader will gobble it up eagerly. If not, you lose everything. (>tfw)

But I don't see what you make an example of as a strong use of dramatic irony—and I say this even with a suspicion that there's probably a textbook somewhere that cites exactly this trope, because that's how I roll—because it isn't about the audience having privileged information that, were it common information, would alter the decisions made by the characters. Likely such a character is conditioned by experience to draw such conclusions (broad generalizations with anecdotal support from his perspective), which is quite different from the Truman Show scenario, where the protagonist begins ignorant of a greater truth—and the story lies in his vanquishing the dramatic irony that the audience begins with according to the premise.

Emo Kid ultimately realizing that there are unjust punishments isn't a strong resolution of dramatic irony (IMHO), but Emo Kid ultimately realizing that his father's drug conviction really was for drugs planted at the scene by crooked cops and his throwing away all the letters Dad sent assuming them to be selfish ruses cost him his only contact with his father throughout his childhood, and never getting a letter back was harder on Dad than the time served would be, assuming of course that the audience was tipped off to what really happened.

Missing information isn't interesting when it just makes somebody wrong. It is when it makes a character (that the audience sympathizes with) regret being wrong and ache for the impossible opportunity to take the knowledge, once found, back in time to influence the most critical moment that its impact is greatest.
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>>33215276
haah
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>>33216637
these quiet bumps
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Is there any fan fiction with decent characters, good grammar, and a reasonably long length?
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>>33217940
Check the catalog my dude. Also, what constitutes "reasonably long length"?
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>>33217957
Think of the Bible, then scale up.
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>>33217979
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>>33218024
>>33218075
Honestly, I'm just looking for an excuse not to be working on my fic. Probably a sign I should take a break. I've looked through the catalog, but nothing in it really caught my interest, save for the ones I've already read.
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>>33218093
Hm...well, what have you read?
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>>33218110
Actually, I think I'll abstain from reading for now. I really need to stop neglecting my own work. desu I only posted originally because I felt like shitposting, I didn't think I would actually get much of a response, sorry to waste your time, friend
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What do you guys listen to while writing, if anything?
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>>33218141
angry industrial music
it calms me down
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>>33218141
Diablo 2 Soundtrack. It's fucking wonderful.

Either that or generic indie folk crap. Daughter, Alt-J, Cigarettes after sex, astronautilus etc etc
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>>33218141
I've been listening to the Pyre soundtrack recently, it's pretty good. Often I'll listen to subtler ambient stuff, though. Stars of the Lid, AWVFtS, that kind of stuff
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>>33218234
also solo piano or acoustic guitar, love that shit
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>>33218208
>Diablo 2 Soundtrack
are you me? That's been my go to for close to 15 years. Never get tired of it.
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>>33218141
Muse for hypin me up, probably jazz for when i gotta write the detailed shit
you can probably guess who i am by that
But fuck, what seven days of inactivity will do to you...
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>>33217979
727,969 words in the New International Version
1,397,686 words in Ashes to the Past
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>>33218141
Been listening to more Volbeat.
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>>33219197
>NIV
Heresy detected.
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>>33218141
Usually just my library shuffled unless there's a specific song that is tied to a specific scene (of which there are many) that will help me get in the mood for it.

>>33218332
Muse has been a great inspiration for my works. I can't wait until I write what I have in mind for "New Born".
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>>33224830
Given a very brief listen, this sounds like an attempt to catch Radiohead in a bottle.
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>>33224982
I don't think I've listened to enough Radiohead to hear any similarities. Then again, I don't think I would notice any if I had. I'm very much a casual when it comes to music
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Has anyone gone through some of these?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanficRecs/PokemonGeneral

I thought "No Antidote" was really good (I thought I saw the twist coming from a mile away, but the author actually managed to surprise me).

Unfortunately, I just couldn't finish the 225,000-word "Like No One Ever Was". For all the people I've heard heap praise on it, it feels bloated with too many useless (and often unlikeable) characters and just seems to drag on. I thought about dumping it around chapter 8, but stuck it out until chapter 20; I'm sorry to say, though, that I just couldn't finish those last 5 chapters.

So, does anyone have any recommendations of their own? I'm looking for some Pokégirls as villains right now (Rocket Leaf, Magma/Aqua May, Galactic Dawn, etc.), but anything good will do.

Also, I dug through old Angelfire Pokémon fanfics from 1999-2000. Shit's crazy.
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>>33225573
There's a Lyra fic about her giving up on the league and turning to a Silver-led Team Rocket to prove her worth. She basically goes through the motions of being a vulnerable rookie in a crime syndicate, slowly being recognized for her endurance and drive. I read it ages ago and it's really well-written, but the author dropped it quite a ways in. I don't know if it will ever be continued, but if you can handle the disappointment, it's worth the read.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10436297/1/The-Pains-of-Being-In-Charge
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>>33225866
>rec a deadfic
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>>33225901
It might be really good, even if it's dead.
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>>33226229
That just makes it worse.
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What do you guys read that's not fanfiction? Anything?
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>>33226889
Non-fiction narrative/history. Bob Woodward and David McCullough type shit.

The downside is that, having read so many of his books, everything I write now mimics Woodward's writing style; so everything I write comes across like I'm writing a political drama/history, with a strong fidelity to chronology and multiple perspectives, as well as usage of prologues and epilogues.
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>>33226889
I've been reading the works of Nisioisin and slowly re-reading House of Leaves.
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>>33227052
>House of Leaves
Dude I Fuckin love that book, A+
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>>33226889
Found pic related a few weeks back at a second hand book store and loved it. Ordered a few more from the series.

But in general, I read way too much. 2-3 books a week, time permitting.
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>>33226889
It's basically just fanfiction
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>>33226889
During the semester I avoid books, vidya, basically anything that will distract me. I've finished only one book this summer, and now I'm trying to slog through The Tale of Genji. It's not that bad, but it's the definition of telling rather than showing.
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>>33226889
Trashy romance novels. I can't help myself, when they're only a dime a piece and I can read them in an hour or two. Some of them are so bad, it's hilarious.
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page 9 bump
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>>33226889
Mostly scifi and fantasy. I grew up on Tolkien and McCaffrey and Zahn, and more recently grew to appreciate Banks and Sanderson. Next on my reading list is the first six books of the Malazan series, rec'd by a good friend.

Throwing out a concept that anyone can feel free to grab: how about a story of a zoroark disguised as a human kid going to school to learn about humans better? (whether just to imitate them better or out of genuine curiosity or any other motive)
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