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OLD THREAD: >>32983917

New?
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg
>https://pastebin.com/sHq3y40X

TL:DR:
>Complete all Trainer Challenges to get 45 free packs (use Cheat Engine's speedhack to speed up AI games [http://www.cheatengine.org])
>Play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play.
>Farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets.
>Enter tournaments to get TRADABLE chests and packs.
>DON'T OPEN THEM.
>Trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.

What themedeck should I buy?
>Buy the Lunala one. Solgaleo upgrades into something cheap and decent ( >>32879775 ) but is worse on it's own.

Resources
>http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/
>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/pokemon-events/championship-series-event-results/
>http://thecharizardlounge.com/decklists/
>http://pkmncards.com/advanced/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the forums in the trading section. Trading companies overprice cards, aim lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading.
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Bots will snatch plain text or uncovered QRs.
>Ask for emails and send em individually.
>Post your pulls or your mom dies in her sleep.
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ded
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>>33026386
boring meta
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>>33026443

servers are ded
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>>33025791
>Solgaleo upgrades into something cheap and decent ( >>32879775 )

repost it
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>>33026465
this without the lele
http://thecharizardlounge.com/2017/05/24/fun-in-the-sun-solgaleo-gxrayquaza/
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How is PCL going to handle the Mega Evolution in the future? Just regular stage 2/3 evolutions or will they sweep them under the rug like the Baby Pokemon?
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>>33026578

mega evolutions as we know them are through. I highly doubt we'll even see them appear again in the next 5 years as pokemon seems to want to phase them out despite their popularity. They'll be swept under the rug like mantyke and mime jr.

If we do see them again, it will be 10 years down the line when the gen 6 remakes come out and the game will be completely different from what it is now.
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>>33026624
Yeah, that's what I feared. Then again the gimmick did start to feel a little overdone by the end of gen 6, so maybe it's for the best.
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>>33026624

When are we going to see Baby Pokemon again? I miss Eeeeeeek
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So with that expanded ban list out does that mean there is no changes to standard list?

I just want trashalanche garbaderp gone. I know the next set should make him weaker but he still will be cancer in my eyes.
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>>33026465
Use the archive, newfag.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/32850369/#32879775
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>>33026624
Have we seen ANY baby pokemon recently?
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>>33026773

I'm not newfag, your board makes zero sense
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>>33026733
An optional stage you gain little to nothing by jumping through its hoops for, with typically 30hp, and one of two abilities, both of which boil down to a 50% chance to null damage.

I'm not, unless they get a massive rework. Maybe like BREAK in reverse, things that bother to evolve from it nice things.
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>>33026818

Make them like BREAKS/Lvl. X in that pokemon that evolve from them get their attacks/abilities.

Then simply give them strong ex-level attacks, but only 30HP. Make baby pokemon glass canons, with the option of evolving for more HP. Remove the coinflip mechanic completely, focus on giving them strong attacks.
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>>33025791
Seriously 5ban graphics needs to fuck off out of the tcg already and let the actual 2d and good 3d artists make more special and rare shit.
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>Garbodor GX
>Garbodor
I'm sick of seeing this thing, about to drop this all together because of this retarded Pokémon.
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>>33027265
Guess garbodor trashed your day.
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>>33027265

lysandre it and destroy it, it have only 120 hp or something
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>>33026939
I say abilities focused on survivability for the most part. That way they protect it when small and make it horrifying when big.

Heck, even leaving the coinflip but making it permanent over evos would be dangerous. One of Circuit Raichu's main weaknesses is the small health. Negating statistically every other attack is scary.
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>>33027346
Lysandre leaves meta in sept
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>>33027618
And Guzma becomes a four-of
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>>33027618
So does garb iirc
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>>33027718
Is this a meme now?
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>>33027727
Ok, so I may not remember corectly
Note that I am new and that I don't know which card come from wich set exactly yet
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is there a way to trade bulk packs anymore? need to grab a few EXs for my deck, but i doubt people are looking to pick up 37 Fate Collides
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Did they change the time when daily vs rewards reset, or is that just a display error?
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>>33027985
Don't buy them all in one transaction, obviously.

If all those packs are for 1 card, the heck is costing you 12 packs of value? Shaymin is 15, LeLe 20, the rest rarely above 6.
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>>33025791
i stopped playing around wen the guardians rising dropped. Can someone tell me wat the OP top decks are that will carry on into the next rotation?
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>>33026939
Something like that, but with attacks like "this attack base damage is the same as this Pokémon's HP" and other things that take into account what that Pokémon gains from evolving would be great.

There has to be some sort of reward over evolving. Otherwise, we will end up in the same scenario of the Neo era, where tech babies were used but no one would even remember clefairy was a thing.
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>>33027985
oh, excuse me then, 37 FC and 24 Generations.
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>>33028060
Garbodour Trashalanche is here to stay and because of that so will Metagross/Solgaleo decks, easy to set up plus resistance to garb is literally risk free
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>>33027818
I think theyre referring to SM trashalanche garbodor who isnt leaving it soon. I didnt know it was getting a gx though
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>>33028303
what about for the other type decks? Grass, water, fire, fairy, dark. Im hella upset Forrest of Giant Plants will be gone I was gunna buy a decidueye deck but I didnt have the money at the time for them. So now that its leaving format the deck will be put in a coffin i just wanted to use an OP grass deck feels bad man
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>>33028445
I currently use Golisopod/Lurantis promo with choice band, builds up quick but heavy damage plus they're all single prize card risks, only problem is it takes a lot to set up unless you get the perfect hand which leaves it open to easy sweeps from Garbodour, no idea about the other types though
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>>33025791
I wanted Alolan Kum to be good, but it is looking pretty bleak.
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Anyone have some new, fun Guardians expanded list ideas? I'm messing with Archie's/Yveltal and Darkrai Turbo, they still seem like pretty good decks but I want something new and novel and I don't want to wait for Marshadow night march to give it to me.
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>>33028445
>OP grass deck
Golispod-GX.

Shit's dumb.
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>>33029152
>fun
>expanded
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>>33029909
i have to win 5 more matches of this shit and i can't stand playing these fucking dark decks anymore
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>>33028445
>grass
Golisopod GX, Buluvolt
>water
Ninetails GX
>fire
Volcanion EX, Ho-Oh GX, Turtonator GX, all supported by Kiawe and baby Volcanion.
>fairy
Gardevoir GX won Japan, and Rainbow Road is apparently seeing a resurgence
>dark
Zoroark, Zoroark Break, Zoroark GX
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>>33027246
5ban's gx doesn't look that bad like his ex, at least they get ride of eske yoshinob, he does normal cards now
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>>33030007
>eske yoshinob


Thank fuck his 3d stuff was terrible.
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>>33029934
>I hate a whole type
but why
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>>33029999
>Zoroark, Zoroark and, Zoroark
Wow, they must really love him.

nice quads btw.
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fella's im coming from MTG and was wondering what is the top standard deck that loses the least from rotation/ what to build right now.
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>>33030960
Drampa/Garbodor? That's my best guess.
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>>33027246
>>33030007
Im still trying to solve the mystery of who the hell 5ban graphics are/is and where they came from. They just suddenly appeared in gen 5 tcg sets an stuck since being often relegated to EX, GX, Item, and Promo with the occasional normal card too.

Like seriously not even the wikis or searches have any info on them or where they came from or who they are.
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>>33027246
They're not even "bad" as such, they're just consistently dull. They're just a model of the Pokémon looking a little bit angry.
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What are some gimmicks you'd like to see return?
I'd love for them to bring back Delta Pokemon!
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>>33030960
Drampa/Garb, Espeon/Garb, Zoroark/Drampa.
Vespiquen/Zoroark is also T1 but it loses basically everything on rotation.
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>>33031726
Level X, dual types, ancient traits.
The latter two need to be in every set imo.
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anyone else having log in issues this morning? they took the notice down from last night, yet it hasn't worked for me over an hour of attempts.
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>>33030495
because i've been playing yveltal in one form or another since the beginning of xy block and darkrai is boring as fuck to play in general.
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I have most of Drampa/Garbodor built, but am missing the Tapu Lele's and 2 trainers. What would be suitable temporary budget replacements?
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>>33032877
Because Lele is basically made out of the best aspects of other cars, there is none.

The question is which part of lele do you miss the most. If it's the support fetch, go Jirachi EX. If its the {CC} 20x all energies in pay, Mewtwo EX or Lugia EX. If it's the heal GX attack, Primarina GX I think is the closest, but not even comparable. Good news is, probably not a ting you were ever going to use.
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>>33032975
Jirachi is only expanded though. In standard, Octillery is probably the best option from a consistency perspective
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>>33032104
Try it on Windows?
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>Decidueye is already dead because forest of giant plants is being removed

Do you think something might be printed to fix this or are those decks just dead forever?
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>>33033200
I hope greninja BREAK will have something for it's dive ball
The deck looked kinda interesting
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Would it be worth it making a deck with promo GX Koko and promo non-GX Koko?
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>>33033535
Yes. I think the non-promo koko is actually one of the best compliments for real Koko because of the 0 retreat cost and ability to deal spread damage.

Daddy Koko hits 160 with band which falls just short of KOing so much shit, one flying flip early in the game makes the damage numbers work much better for that deck.
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>>33032525
But zoroark decks are fun as shit
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Fuck me Greninja break decks are boring to both play and play against.


At least Night march got matches done fairly quickly Greninja matches just drag on forever.
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>>33026778

last ones were in the HGSS era
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>>33031596
>>33027246
This is why I prefer EX from stuff like Generations.
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>>33034073

I was all hype to play Greninja when it first came out. They I played a Mirror Match when the list ran rough seas

I will never play the deck again.
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>buy 8 Guardians Rising packs on Amazon for cheap
>Get three GXs

How should I feel guys
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>>33037096
blessed.
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>>33036140
Ninetales-GX is a much more fun waterdeck.
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Are those promo Vikavolts worth using at all? Would they go good with GX/non-GX Tapu Kokos?
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whats with the public trade just being pure shit? " oh hey I'll trade you 5 shit GX's for secret rare Tapu lele.". People who put a guardians rising booster and then 30 commons are the worst race.
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>>33038255
I don't bother browsing I just put my offers up and most of the time people will take them.
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>>33038255
use the filters brah
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I hate that they gave Volcanion EX a way of removing it's weakness with that stadium.
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>>33025791
PTCGO, why do I have an infinite supply of shiny metal energies?
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>>33038538
Because the game has rewarded you with infinite bling for being a pimp.
Fuck if I know, but I wouldn't complain.
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>>33037886
promo Vikavolt works wonders if setup early but otherwise you're more likely to have already gotten both Koko's up n running over things.
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>>33037096
Depends which GXs are since some might as well be random rare fodder anyway, and at least random rares have pretty art unlike 5ban crap.
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Is Sylveon dead?
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>>33039746
Kommo-O GX, Wishiwashi GX, and Lycanroc GX.
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>>33039754
As a doornail. It was a shit deck which only won Japan due to everyone running either Garb or anti-Garb, with metal being non-existent due to Blacksmith causing a larger representation of fire.
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Any favorite decks you're going to have to resign to Expanded once rotation hits? Gonna miss playing my Toxicroak deck the most I think, especially fun catching people who aren't familiar with/don't read the ability unaware when they attack and it does no damage. Could maybe make a comeback if a decent alternative to Ariados comes along, but I don't see it happening.
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>>33039746

Im that poster... I got

>Sylveon
>Tapu Koko
>Turtonator
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>someone 'well played' you when you N him to one two turns in a row and he gets a seeker each turn

why would you taunt me like that when the game so obviously wants you to win?
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>>33037886
vikavolt is the partner for Bulu, some people run 1 Koko in a Bulu deck for saves.
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>>33040006
Yeah that looks pretty fun.

Requires a lot of evolution, but at least they're all stage1.
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>>33040809
Sure, it's not super consistent, and only particularly effective when the prize trade is in my favor and they don't run Pokecenter Lady. I used to run Celebi EX for Poison Up, for the odd occasion that I could line up the numbers for a KO coming back to my turn, but couldn't pull it off often enough to justify the two-prize sitting target. At least when it rolls over to Expanded only I can throw in a few Lasers for bonus protection.
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Hey guys, i recently took a trip to nip land and purchased myself a healthy amount of pokemon merch; that is to say i purchased an entirely unhealthy amount of pokemon merch. In my excitement i bought a bunch of tcg cards forgetting that I probably wouldn't be able to play with them at any leagues because they're not in english.

However then I thought to myself, well it's not like the cards don't exist in english. It's not like they're fake cards or even different cards than the one's that are going to be played with here in the states. I can't ask anyone irl whether or not the cards are legal because I don't have any friends or know anyone who plays the tcg.

Are the cards legal?
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>Playing alolan ninetales gx
> Opponent is playing normal ninetales
>We both put down our vulpix
>He hearts
>I feel bad as I one hit them all

RIP fire foxes.
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>>33040884
I heard that you can't use them, but I can't find the specific rules online to back it up.
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>>33040884
>>33040962
My understanding is that you can use then but only if you also have at least one English language copy on hand for reference, but I couldn't say that with certainly.
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>>33040884
Other language cards aren't legal in official events because people use them to stall for time and will even be dicks refusing to tell the other player what moves are doing until a ref is called.
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>>33040989
You can play them in leagues if you have an English reference (either a print out or English language card not in your deck) and use opaque backed sleeves.

I don't think you're allowed to play them in regionals/internationals unless they are in one of the regional languages, like you could have a deck with both ENG and SPA cards if you're playing in North American championships but not JP cards.
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>>33040796

So promo Vikas go with Bulus then? I do have two Bulu GXs...
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>>33041866
You want 3-4 in a Bulu list. This is the one I use.
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>>33040884
Countries native languages only

That said, I bet they'd sell for more in the states just out of novelty.
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I've probably opened 50 Guardians packs online and about a booster box worth IRL and I've pulled 1 IRL lele and 2 digital ones. Anyone else doing above average with this set?

I've only opened SRs online though unfortunately, my only FA in paper is Kommo-o.
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>>33042011

Have you found any success with this deck? I actually have most of these cards IRL and am looking to start playing again soon
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>>33042134
I do as well, I even have two RR Lurantis GXs and I got a rainbow rare Primarina GX IRL and with the code card it was in. Creepy shit.
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>>33042236
the weirdest thing I had was opening 3 Lycanrock-GX from 6 boosters I got out of 2 Bulu tins.
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>>33042165
WR is about 65%, a little lower than my precious metal decks but this list will beat Garbodor pretty much every time which is enough to be a good deck in this meta.
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Wait in PTCGO are packs from high level "knock out so many Pokemon with X type" tradeable? I just got a fates collide and it isn't trade locked. My ingame level is 25.
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>>33043982
once you hit lv16 your daily challenge packs are tradable.

The special challenge packs aren't, but the KO x number of pokemon ones are.
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>>33044056
Cool.
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What else for Pokemon should I put in a Tapu Koko GX deck, besides promo Tapus?
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>>33044180
Lele, Koko, promos, one or two Jolteon-EX and if you play in a meta with energy removal Carbink FAC can be an okay one of.
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I am going to miss VS seekers they make decks flow so smoothly.
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played the drampa/garbodor mirror in a tournament just then, im pretty sure trashalanche did over 2000 damage combined.
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Can they fuck off with annoying Garbodors already.
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>>33046187
The Trashalanch one should be based of how many more item cards your opponent has in their discard than you.

Because right now we are essentially at Vileplume that doesn't impact both players because of how absurd the damage can get.
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>>33046261
And just make brainless turbo the best current deck-building paradigm again, got it.
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>>33046305
waiting for your opponent to dump items requires much more thought
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>>33046326
Running basically every current meta deck but Garb does. It's a necessary evil, like chemotherapy.
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>>33046335
They are going to have to do something soon because this is becoming night march but slower.


Are we going to see an item Karen after VS seeker is removed?
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>>33046414
No, it'd combo with energy and pokeo recyclers to eliminate risk of decking out. It'd have to be an ace spec.
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booster codes

2W2 XRKJ 927 HPT

YRM 7A47 L7P PJ6
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>>33046500
I wouldn't mind that, just something to counter these fucking decks that doesn't completely kill you vs all other decks.
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>>33046516
Got the second one nothing special but thank you.
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>>33046516
Invalid codes you asswipe.
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>>33046516
Let me know what you get or your shuffling will be cursed
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>>33046548
Delete spaces
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>>33046516
Same on the first, can't post a pic though. Only got a Rare Candy and a bunch of junk. Thanks.
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>That one card you know you're better off without
Who's the (un)lucky lady?
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>>33040790
>Those guys who just constantly use the preset messages and emoticons
I don't know what the goal is but it messes with me because I'm not sure what the intention is, at they just talkive in the only way they can be or are they trying to taunt and make me mad. I just mute them immediately now, it doesn't effect my performance but it can make me have a less enjoyable time.
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what is everyone building after rotation?
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>>33047768
All that's really leaving is VS Seeker, Mega Ray, Vespiquen, and Shaymin.
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>>33047768
I'll probably stick with Metagross but throw in a couple of Olivias.
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>>33047775
and decidueye
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>>33047781
Oh fuck, I forgot about that.
There are only two regular Decidueyes at my locals and they tend to drop after round 2.
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>>33047768
Well, seeing as I've managed to open 4 Alolan Ninetails, probably something with that.
I'm also trying to brew something dumb with Lunala-GX and Shatter Shot but it has it's issues.
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>>33046326
>>33046335
>>33046414
>play deck with slightly low item count
>beat garbodor every time
Oh boy, it feels good to be able to metagame instead of repeatedly putting my hand on a stove and then complaining that the stove is OP because I get burned.

The really cool thing about garb is that it's really a lategame attacker, but it makes up almost half of their attackers typically. That means if you have anything in you have anything in your deck that's good against their espeon/drampa/etc, garb is 100% a burden on them and not you, and it's easier to have an answer to drampa/espeon because you're not spending slots on garb.
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>Opponents coin flips are all heads
>All of yours are tails
Fuck that algorithm, fuck it hard.
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HE UNIRONICALLY FELL FOR THE SHAYMIN EX MEME.
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>>33040790
>Is a N-igger
>"Le it's not for the game cheated ;("

Kys fag
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>>33045356
You can check how much damage was done in the stats tab after the match finishes.
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Is there a good replacement for bursting balloon in the Greninja Break deck, so that I'm less likely to get fucked by Trashalanche? Also, why did the Talonflame variant fall out of favor? It seems to be the one that works best for me.
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>>33048054
>play deck with slightly low item count
>beat garbodor every time

Congrats you have now just lost to every other deck and any hybrid garb deck like drampa gx because you are now way too slow.
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>>33048054
well, I run espeon/garb, with more focus on espeon and Vaporeon/flareon from ancient origins.
and I usually win 7/10 battles.
Garb really is a pain, but it's a psychological thing as well. You put a trubish on the bench, and they don't play that much items, until they burn a shit ton of them at some point, out of the possibility to beat one espeon, and they fall for the garb tramp.
Also, Flareon/vaporeon does influence garb as well, so, it ends up being very useful regardless.
I think it really ends up on not relying on garb for everything, even the good drampa decks end up relying on garb more than often.
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>>33047768
Gonna try getting super scoop up and/or acerola into my koko deck
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>>33050175
That's what makes garb such an annoying card it can easily be put into other already fairly strong decks so if your opponent doesn't blow a bunch of items killing your main attacker they are fucked and if they do they now have to deal with a one prize card, one energy massive damage attacker and there is no solution to dealing with it. You can't discard it's energy because it just needs one you can't get your items back out and there are plenty of cards to use which force your opponent to dump cards.
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>some random anime girl game I've never heard of is before us on TCGPlayer
Why doesn't our game get the respect it deserves?
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>>33050586
TCGplayer treats everyone but MtG as second class citizens.
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wew, only thing better i could've asked for was a trubbish for my espeon/garb deck
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>>33046552
Is THAT what does it. I wondered.
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>>33046527
With gen4 being the next remakes on the line, it wouldmake sense if we got lost zone back (or maybe along ultra beasts in SM4)

That would explain why Garbodor was made with no easy counters, it will become less relevant once items can be removed from play.
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What's the most needlessly baller deck you've seen in real life? Either in terms of flashiness or actual value.

Probably a Darkrai Shaymin EX deck for me. With multiple full-arts.
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>>33048054
I don't really think garb is OP, I just don't like the idea of a deck forcing a low item meta. The game is really fucking boring without items. Remember how much fun it was to play against garbotoad?
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Has anybody tried a Whiscash landslide deck, and how did you like it?
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>>33052406
At a league challenge I played against an MFugg deck which had EVERYTHING at mas rarity.
I remarked that his bench looked like shit with a bunch of full arts and one Salamence-EX.
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>>33048368
When i think about it maybe i should have bought a shaymin ex for 11 guardians rising packs because i still play expanded... it was a public trade.
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>>33053102
>The game is really fucking boring without items.
More fun than facing a million turbodarks.
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>>33047768
Night March. I won't leave my bros. This is the best deck I've had since Luxchomp and I will never stop playing it.
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>>33053873
Field blower, Ninetales GX and Lycanroc make short work of Turbo dark anyway garbo isn't the only think keeping that deck dead.
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>>33053441
there was some guy a few threads ago I think.
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Odds of VS Seeker reprint in the next year or so? I really enjoy the card and it's my favorite item from the video games.
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>>33054258

Damn, I need his testimony.
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>>33054385
It's a less consistent Typhlosion.
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>>33054468
This. The deck relies too heavily on Mallow, and with VS Seeker out for standard it's gonna be a lot harder to consistently stack energies.
>>33054324
Probably not happening, it just rotated out.
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>>33054324
I don't think anyone could really guess, so don't take my opinion too seriosly:

I think it's unlikely. SM1 gave us a lot of reprints, that was the first missed opportunity. If that was made so as not to make SM1 a farm of stapples, then, by SM3 it should already be reprinted. Not only that, but we got no "discard your hand, draw 7" supporter.

The game is shifting towards pokemon with strong support attacks/abilities to encourage players to rely less on items and supporters. Garbodor was printed with that in mind, it was a message to the players: Stop abusing items.

Judging by what SM is being giving us, I could see a Pokémon with an ability with the same effect as VS seeker but not a VS seeker reprint.
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>>33054588
>Judging by what SM is being giving us, I could see a Pokémon with an ability with the same effect as VS seeker but not a VS seeker reprint.


Infinite Guzmas/Lysandres each turn? Not likely.
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>>33054660
>Implying every ability is permanent
It could be something like Lele, you know?

A Celebi EX with a "Friend from the Past" ability or something to that effect. Put it on your bench, get a supporter from your discard.

Effectively, it would give VS seeker a deserved drawback (a shitty two prizer sitting on your bench, like Shaymin).

It would also top Lele (no pun intended) in terms of price...
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>>33054889
Bench space is way too valuable for that no one would bother playing it.
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>>33054973
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>>33048368
what happened? price drop already?
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>>33054973
You really think that in a meta where people play Shaymin and Lele in the same decks?

Hoopa and Dragonite EX aren't even that great compared to them and also saw a lot of use.

Heck, even stuff like Jirachi EX was played.

Bench space is not an issue if you can use it to basically transform an ultra ball into a VS seeker.
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>>33047768
Gardy
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>>33054588
>Stop abusing items.
Won't that make it play closer to theme?

You can't just replace all those items with supporters, they'll clog like energy and pokemon. Not quite as bad, since many let you shuffle your hand away, but still clog.
No deck will ever play more than 4x of 1 stadium
And tools are only 1 per pokemon, so can also clog, also technically items.

It will just be custom theme decks but with EXs and Breaks.
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>>33055058
Shaymins and Leles get played early game anything played after that is additional Lysander wins so no you won't waste time filling your bench, giving your opponent an easy two prize cards late game and using ultra balls to power up your opponents garb. It's too clunky and too risky compared to a VS seeker.
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Alolan Muk GX/Raichu/Salazzle will be my new meme deck
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>>33055374
Hey that's bullshit friendo. Lele and Shaymin are played mid-to-late game all the time. How do you think people get that Lysandre in the first place? Why do you think the NA internats deck ran four Lele? Plus with SSU being reprinted the bench space is not as precious.
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>>33055374
both the ultra ball and vs seeker are items. so that's a net 0 change in garb terms.

Meanwhile the SeekerLele gotyou your own lysander/guzma since lysander is rotating too, first, so... don't think that's much of an issue bub.
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>>33055278
You mean EX's, GX's, and a BREAK.
Are any BREAK's but Zoroark seriously played?
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>>33054588
>Stop abusing items.
VS Seeker isn't "abused," it makes having tech supporters possible. Without VS Seeker, even if it were replaced by a pokeo as others have said, no one would run anything but 4 Sycamore, 4 N, 2 Guzma, 2-4 Acerola/Hala/Olivia/more Guzma.
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>>33055901
Greninja and Trevenant BREAK are meta. Pyroar and Talonflame BREAK could be met in PTCGO.
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>>33056089
Ah, thanks.
It always amazes me that what's essentially a stage 4 was actually good in a big basic meta.
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>>33055915
I mean, you can still tutor for them. FetchLele exists. They just only happen once, and if you discard it it's gone, unless you're also running flashbackMon.

>>33056157
*stage 3
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>>33056168
>*stage 3
Apparently I also keep forgetting the stages start at zero.
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>>33055058
Most decks have completely dropped Shaymin due to bench space issues.
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>>33056960
no, they've dropped it due to adjusting for the coming rotation. gotta get used to things early that way you're not falling behind.
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>Ninetales GX is already dead because the introduction the that Gardevoir means a lot more Metagross decks are going to be played to counter it and they share weakness


Why? That deck is pretty fun to play and it's going to get killed.
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Am I supposed to get 2 Tapu Bulu (one tradeable, one trade-locked) for entering just one code?
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>>33055278
Slowing down doesn't mean all decks should be like theme decks.

The game has pacing issues and PCL noticed that. It's becoming slower, but things like Kiawe and Hala show they don't want the game to become "theme with gx", they are just changing it to make players think a bit more instead of digging their decks to get everything they need and make the same plays every match.
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>>33057937
Tins give you a whole deck worth of stuff and yeah you get two of the promo cards.
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>>33055915
Tech supporters would become more like what they should be, tech. With VS seeker, you can just use whatever you want.

The card is too strong,to the point of being almost mandatory. And no, people wouldn't use 4x Sycamore and 4x N, in an environment where everyone has to actually choose which supporters to use, you can't guarantee focus on drawing is the most important thing to win.
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>>33057776
Both decks are going to slaughter Ninetales GX. Gard Can one hit in one turn with the amount of energy Ninetales normally has on to attack. By putting a DCE on Gard and then using the ability to summon a fairy and then add Choice band not to mention that the new Diancie's attack is an evosoda to make evolving your Gard easier. If your opponents ninetales doesn't have enough energy on you can use your benched Gards to summon fairy to your active anyway.

And well Metagross hits for weakness...
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I have a question, I want to know cause of seeing how some people are on another page.. Is there anyone here who knows besides me that you win some and loose some and that it's okay to loose and it's about having fun and playing the game. Yes I'm for competitiveness but one person and others were so not nice and one was full of him self and was like I'm not in it for fun but to win. There must be at lease a good amount of descent and humble players. Just I've heard Pokemon TCG players were such good people when it comes to the gane compared to other card game players. Person also said my mindset was bad because I wanted to be unique with my deck. Creativity is not a bad thing and helps you stick out from the rest and can pay off in the long run. Like Pachirisu for VG at Worlds couple years ago. It was unique, creative, smart, and no one saw it coming abd guy stook out from the crowd and payed off at the end for him. I like to be unique about my deck and think of a different way to play it well or even better from the rest of the other copycats. Idea no one has come up with, to put a piece of myself in my deck that I worked so hard on.
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>>33058227
>you win some and loose some and that it's okay to loose
It's okay, since pokemons' weakness mechanic is all about it. Sometimes you'll definitely lose.

>it's about having fun and playing the game
It depends on player's view on game at all and his own goals. Some people don't like to lose and get mad easily. Like me sometimes. Without emoticon spamming, though.

>I like to be unique about my deck
>to put a piece of myself in my deck that I worked so hard on.
In my opinion that's the major problem of Pokemon TCG. Very few people come up with really unique deck and present it first time on tournaments, most of decks are already known.
They choose to copycat due to fear of risk, either you have guaranteed prize taking deck or don't even try to play. Of course, online client is more safe for experiments than real life events.
Buying netdeck for rl tournament is like buying theme deck but on a higher level.
Not very diverse variety of attacks and abilities narrows the number of competitive cards very much. At least, OP post Muk says hi to that, he's interesting one.
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>>33058227
You seem rather judgy for someone who started with a rant about people not being nice to you...

Anyway, there are jerks in every game, you can't really label the entire player base of a specific game.

Play with whatever you want. If someone tries to argue, you just say "I like to play with that" and that's it.

It's a bit hard to see exactly what is wrong since you weren't clear about what happened to you. You act like winning is not important, but then you lose and you don't accept when people tell you creativity doesn't guarantee success. If that's the case, you might as well say "I don't care for losing".

But I'll guess you are just frustrated because other people don't play the way you do and you don't get a chance against them. Well, there's nothing to do about that, the sad truth about Pokémon is that 90% of the cards are useless and there is a big chance your favorite Pokémon is among them.
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>>33057980

Also I bought two code cards and one was already redeemed. Now the shop owner says he's gonna contact Pokémon. Has something like this ever happened to one of you?
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>>33058468
Never purchased codes before so no idea.
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>>33058227
Unfortunately in any gaming community there's always going to be stuck up assholes who take themselves too seriously. I also play rogue decks if it makes you feel any better. Just have fun with it.
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>>33058079
The baby form of Ninetales might become a thing. Seems pretty damn good in a meta with no real ability lock and the top tiers consisting of GX and EX. 3-2 on baby and GX.
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What do you guys think of this ?
It's my first attempt to build something out of theme
Boufalant could be another Lugia with the theme deck
I'm testing Glaceon, Energy Retrivial and Lucky Helmet
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>>33057947
What's to stop theme decks from containing kaiwe though?

The only hard-coded differences are proportions 15/30/15 vs 25/15/20, 3-2-1 vs 3-3-3, and maximum rarity allowed.

If we thin out items that shifts the P/T/E proportion closer. We'll have empty space to fill and we'll have to fill it by running more pokemon and energy to make up for not having quick ways to fetch them.

And the reason themes run pyramid style is of upper evos having a higher chance to be dead cards without the necessary items to search for the pieces below it.

So the only hard-coded difference still intact is the presence of Break and *X.
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>>33058468
I mean there are people who crack codes for free cards, so it'should bounty to happen eventually I suppose
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>>33059974
Thanks anon !
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>>33055901
You have Trevenant, Greninja & Carbink. And the much more occasional Xerneas, Yanmega & Talonflame

Besides that, Zoroark's Break was barely ever used pre-GX attacks. So who knows when some new card will make something old viable. Potentially, any of Golduck, Mandibuzz, Yveltal or Raticate *could* be suddenly good with the right other cards released later in the year. That's about the height of it though.
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>>33059145
You are being too simplistic. It's not just about proportions. Theme decks usually have incomplete lines and too much variety. Instead of running two 2-1 lines, you are more likely to run a 3-3 line "in real life".

Just being able to choose cards with some synergy makes it completaly different from theme.

Wether you want to accept or not, the SM block is already different from XY. Next year, we'll probably be playing SM-on and unless the games becomes stagnated, there will be no reason to reprint stuff like N or VS Seeker.
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So why did Sylveon gx become popular on ptcgo and then rapidly drop off?
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>>33061624
metagross fear maybe?
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>>33061624
It won Japan because no one was ready for it but proved to be shit outside of the surprise factor.
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>>33061624
I playtested it extensively and it runs into a problem not just with Metagross, but really anything that can hit a high damage output; you're stuck recycling Max Potions and Fairy Wind for 110 just isn't strong enough to take on the big GX decks.

Quad Sylveon suffers greatly in matchups, and I think the better lists run supplemental attackers.

Also note that Sylveon in Japan lives in an XY-on format, which gives you a much better access to disruption options.

That being said, Sylveon GX itself is a good card, and it's Magical Ribbon attack is nuts. It'll be good in the right meta.
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>>33062630
Could be even better if N doesn't get a reprint or equivalent replacement for next year's rotation and there's no easy and efficient way to disrupt your opponent's hand.
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>>33062659
Delinquent, every deck runs like four stadia.
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pushing in stacked decks with this basic thing i made to get the grass daily challenge. is it a decent deck for <1 week playing and only gold done in trainer challenge, or are these players just shit?
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>>33063098
last deck i beat, but the guys backed out and I could screen his deck. opened with an EX and didnt get off the ground.
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>>33063106
>tfw youre high on flu meds and forgot the corners of the image

sorry, ju_kang
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>>33063106
>>33063098
There's a hidden ELO that you're at the bottom of, the answer to both your questions is yes.
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>>33063118
works for me
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>>33063098
I notice you have no Ns. Don't forget to redeem 4 copies of rallying cry and to unlock all your free starter decks.

some of your choices confuse me, but since you're working with limited materials and this looks to be thrown together as a goodstuff.dek seems fine.

If you're regularly winning standard matches with it though then I'm impressed. Must be more synergy going on in there that readily apparent.
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>>33063098
those are some old cards for less than 1 week playing.
just had a bunch of dragons exalted and boundaries crossed codes lying around?
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>>33061624
people realized that quad anything is a terrible idea.
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Anyone like playing with meme decks? I run one of these and a mirror with Garbotoxin. Im usually about 4/5 averaging with wins to lose on this stupid combo.
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>>33065821
>3 beedrill
>4 mega beedrill

What did he mean by this?
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Just curious, what would you guys think of ACE SPEC cards returning for the USUM block? I was thinking over it and they could release a Z-Crystal card for each type and its effect would be, for example for a Firium Z, it would say "if your GX attack was used by a Fire type Pokemon, turn your GX attack marker back over". Of course you'd only be able to play 1 per deck. And perhaps we could have reprints of the BW ACE SPECs as well.
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>>33065930
Being able to recover GX counters is a bad idea. And that's why PCL will probably do it anyway.

Even if they are Ace Specs, there's got to be a drawback.

Also, the wording on cards like Hala would become a lot more confusing. It doesn't check for the state of the counter, it checks wether you've already used your GX attack or not.

Based on that, I think that the best we will get is something that lets you reuse a GX attack during the same turn the card was played or a tool that is discarded after use.

Considering Z-crystals are items, I'd go with the later.

Z-crystals could also provide GX attacks of their own. That's way more interesting and doesn't break the game as much.
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>>33065930
>it would say "if your GX attack was used by a Fire type Pokemon, turn your GX attack marker back over"
But the whole point of GX moves is to be analogous to Z-moves already.

>>33066136
>Z-crystals could also provide GX attacks of their own. That's way more interesting and doesn't break the game as much.
Yeah, like G-booster or Power Memory. I'd be interested to see more variety in function than just more high-cost high-power moves.
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>>33066136
>>33066454
Honestly this is probably a better idea. I'm retarded.
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anyone got an octillery to trade? ive put up like 5 different offers and no trades. :(
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>>33066777
What's your in-game name?
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>>33067105
thereisnosanity
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What are the odds of getting an FA poke out of a pack?

I am planning on using all my coins on the new set which should give me around 75 packs, that being said I really only like using FA pokemon which I normally just trade for. I would really like to know what I may be able to expect to get out of my dice rolls. Mean I know it's all luck but I would still like to know the statistics.
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>>33067386
75 packs will probably get you three or four on average, going by the Guardians Rising openings I've checked out. TrainerChip got three out of 100 packs. It's a crapshoot either way, and for however many FA Pokemon you get there's no guarantee of them being ones you would use.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB4I7pG1rxM

Is this accurate? I think this shud be put into the OP
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My body is ready for you alolan muk gx
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>>33067524
Well luckily I want just about all of them, Just multiples of some to make decks with or I feel may have a place in a deck in the future.

Some I just want 1 offs like Marshadow, sazazzle, Charizard, Necrozma, and tapu fini, I don't think you will ever need more than 1 in a deck. Then again I could be dead wrong on the marshadow and Charizard.

But I do want a playset of Golisopod, darkrai, gaurivoir, and noivern. I am not sure how many ho ohs would be optimal though.

And I want to replace my Bulus and lycanroc with the new ones that look much cooler.

Muk and Machamp I have no interest in. I just don't think they could be that good.

Do you have any insight on how many hoohs and marshadows I should get? Like if any pro player has said anything about them?
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>>33027246
They keep 5ban art style around because it appeals to the edgycool ADHD new age 3D graphic loving kiddies that need a hundred things going on in their face at all times.
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>>33067524
Here's some stats on 4000 packs of GUR. ymmv
https://www.reddit.com/r/ptcgo/comments/69ienm/gr_data_1_day_later/
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>>33067527

Fuck No

Golisopod really does need FoGP to hit hard/fast enough and that Wally Combo is dumb as fuck. Zoroark/Drampa never beats Gardevoir so that's out. Same story with Darkrai, you need 10 energy and a Band to OHKO a Gardevoir. Also Marshadow is not a good pokemon in standard. Even in expanded all it's good for is killing Darkrai.

Gardevoir, Metagross and Garb Variants are all good. A Ninetales is also good. Expect Tortinator techs to deal with Metagross.
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>>33065928
That Bridgette acts an effective 4th beedrill that can also be 3 fomantis/oranguru.
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>>33025791

HEY TCG FAGGOTS, HOW DO I PLAY POKEMON. AM I LATE IN THE SET? IVE BEEN OPENING THE NEW POKEMON PACK WITH TAPU, AND ALOLA NINETAILS, AND FUCKING THE EMO DOG. IS THAT THE NEW SET? HOW MUCH IS THE FUCKING ALOLAN MUCH WURF?
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>>33069365
we're also not treating beedrill ex and its mega as a main attacker; a backup to lurantis
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>>33068134
Marshadow is good in nightmarch.
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>>33069386
1. See OP for tutorial
2. Yes. New set is in sept.
3. Is indeed the newest set. Jinglebells KANGZ dragon is the 4th pack artwork, in case you want to know.
4. GX or Normal?
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>>33069468
ive wanted to get into it. since ygo is shit now. how are pulls in pokemon? in ygo secrets and ghost are like super hard to get. ill see the tutorial, but whats the rarity and value of the GX cards, like alolan muk? also whats up with the 60 card decks? in ygo its 40 and its all about getting to your cards, and getitng your win condition up. pokemon has energies, doesnt that clog up your deck with so much energies?
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I'm thinking of building a deck around Ho-oh GX utilizing Kiawe for 1st turn power, Mew FAC for a single prize attacker, Volcanion EX for extra damage, wish baton for keeping energy, and Turtonator GX as a backup energy accelerator.

I'm talking a Ho-oh focused deck as opposed to a Volcanion/Turtonator deck featuring Ho-oh. Am I crazy for trying to do what Volcanion already masters, or does Ho-oh/Mew maybe have a chance? I love that bird.
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>>33069607
Yugioh has no resources.
Games with energy/mana are 60 cards to accommodate theire inclusion.
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>>33069607
Pokemon has a lot of cosmetic rarities, like rainbow, full art, and holo, and reverse holo.

But if you remove all cosmetics, there are only 4 rarities. Common, uncommon, rare, and an unofficial "super rare." Basically mtg common-mythic.
Packs contain 5 commons, 3 uncommon, a reverse foil, and 1 reverse holo that can be anything, and 1 rare. Rares have about a 1/8 chance of being a super rare like a shining, ex, gx, or break, etc, depending on which mechanic is in that set.

And a well-made pokemon deck almost never clogs because about 45% of the deck are ~5 card draw, fetches, or return from graveyard.

Only like 15% are energy, same for spells not related to hand contents, with the remaining 25% being creatures.
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>>33069816
Oops, said reverse foil holo twice. Only 1 of those per pack.
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>>33069611
Just saw that Ho-Oh GX is going to be weak to electric rather than water.

That's going to be a hard card to remove considering electric stuff isn't that common outside of Tapu Koko promo and that fire decks have access to altar of the sunne anyway.


Going to me a nightmare if that deck gets first turn as well.
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>>33069910
Tapu Koko is becoming a real deck after burning shadows and SHL is giving us another good electric deck in Raichu-GX/Magnezone.
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>set up trades
>pay more than what i should have
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>>33069652
>>33069607
>>33069816
>>33069816

OK LADS, IM GRINDING ON THE FUCKING TCG ONLINE GAME. I BEAT THE GOLD LEAGUE, I BOUGHT A RISING FORCES PACK, THE NEW TCG PACK. UMM I FINISHED THE FIRE DECK HOW DO I GET NINETAILS? HOW DO I MAKE MY OWN DECK AND USE IT? HOW DO I LEVEL UP IM LEVEL 0 RN.
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>>33071201

also, why cant i get four stars on the fights, just one.
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>>33071261
Each star is a victory with a different deck. Getting all four stars gives you another pack. Use the three starters you get and then use the coins you earn to buy one of the starters in the shop to use.
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>>33071285

ok, is it a random pack? what happens after i beat the plat league?
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>>33071311
There's three tiers: Gold, Plat, and City Champ. You have to beat each trainer 4 times.
I think the packs are randomized from the current standard legal sets.
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Fuck you healing decks
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>>33071330

alright they gave me a psychic deck but i dont know how to equip it. it just show the water, fire, and electric decks.
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>>33071378
It's not a standard legal deck, so you can't use it. Like I said, buy one from the shop.
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>>33071378
Psychic one (mental might) is VS-only.
You need to buy a deck from the shop to get 4 stars, I suggest MoonBat.

Also, for another free VS-only deck and nifty hat, go to redeem and type in "DragonsExalted". "LegendaryTreasures", "Flashfire", "FuriousFists", and "PhantomForces."

>>33071201
you gain levels from beating daily challenges. typically they are "Evolve X Y element pokemon" "Deal X damage with Y element pokemon" or "Knock out X pokemon using Y element pokemon"

Daily challenges give a reward of some tokens or a pack, and XP in the element it was about.
Your trainer rank is the total of all your element ranks.
It takes 5 XP to reach lvl 1 in an element, 10 for level 2, 20 for level 3.
At Trainer level 16 daily challenges give tradable packs. That and tournaments are the only way to get tradable items without buying them.

>>33071201
there is no ninetails in that fire theme deck. Welcome to one of the many stupid idiosyncrasies of theme decks, random incomplete evolutionary lines that probably should be replaced with more handfixing trainer cards.

As for making your own custom deck, I think it's under Collection.


Out of curiosity, how old are you?
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>>33071565

22. thanks bro. i got to city. im gonna go to sleep. night night, see ya tomorrow tcg. Zzz
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Is trading decidueye for tapu bulu fair?
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>>33071645
huh. just hyper I guess.

nighty night anon. Good pulls to you on your journey forward.
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Is there any way to make this fat fuck work? Max elixirs are a given, but would Vikavolt be ok for energy acceleration? Or dragonair?
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>>33071754
energy cost is way too high
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>>33068134
Why does golisopod need forest of giant plants? It's only a stage 1. You don't need more than one golisopod gx right away.

>Expect Tortinator techs to deal with Metagross.
Yea, some people at nats did this, but in my testing turtonator has accomplished nothing as a tech option against fire weakness without fire energy. It might be a bad tech.
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>>33071754
Awful. Stupid high costs for relatively low damage for the hoops you have to jump through, and way too low a health to enable jumping them safely, with no ability to make up for that.

Well and truly awful.
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>>33071850
Seriously, like worst case scenario it's doing 120 damage on an SE.
Both Metagross and Solgaleo have 250.
Meanwhile Solgaleo oneshots it then retreats to recharge

It doesn't even kill promo baby galeo, who likely won't be weak to it, surviving the second attack, and definitely killing turn 2, trading 1 prize for 2.

Not even taking into account an Altar of Sunne being out in which case non-promo baby Galeo kills turn 2 WITHOUT dying, because it's big attack gets it in range, and its small attack places counters without dealing damage.

Turtonator accomplishes nothing without fire energy.
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A few quick nooby questions, thanks for helping in advance. So if you're only allowed 4 of each Pokemon name in a deck, does that include ex's or breaks? Zoroark for example, can I have 4 regulars and a break in a deck? And for any other Pokemon generally can you have 4 of AND a GX/EX too? As for Zoroark are you allowed to use foul play for multiple GX moves per game or can you literally just use one GX move even if it's borrowed? And when you do use it, does it count as the type you've used it from or just dark?
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>>33072059
4 of the EXACT same name. so you could hypothetically have 4 of a mon, 4 of its BREAK, 4 of its EX/GX, and 4 of its Mega-EX all in the same deck, though this is impossible, nothing with a mega also has a break, that's kind of the whole point, also running 4 of final stage, BREAK, AND GX is asking to clog because they'd all use the same prevos. Same applies to split evos.

As for GX moves, when you use a GX move, your token is used up. Period. Unless they print a card that flips it back over, which is hopefully permanently unexplored design space because then cards like Hala get confusing, you get 1, regardless of where you got it from.
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Came back after few months and what the fuck. GX here, GX there.

Before SM I loved playing this Zygarde/Carbink BREAK deck. Any idea whether I can just modify it with new cards or should I start from a scratch? I don't mind playing expanded.
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>tfw only collect for art
I came to the wrong place.
That said I picked up the Mimikyu box today and I'll drop that and a few other codes when I get back home if anyone is interested.
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>>33072126
>nothing with a mega also has a break,
What about Gyarados?
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>>33072281
If it did then that would completely defeat the purpose, and would mean they can't even get their own lore straight for 1 block. The stated reason for BREAK was things that were unable to Mega finding a way to break the limits of their current form because they can't progress to a stronger one.

That said, gyarados does not have a BREAK, so it's fine.
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>>33072330
and since the card game often seems to have knowledge or ideas that the vidya don't use til later, like for instance alternate typed regional variants, my guess is that it holds true for the future as well. Things they intend to NEVER give megas.
Though interestingly, many are things that went on to get Alolan forms, e.g. raichu, ninetails, raticate, marowak
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>>33072330
Yeah I'm remembering wrong, I thought Gyarados had a break because it was related breakpoint wasn't it.
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>>33072345
Shiny Gyarados EX was story related, yes.
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>>33069468
>2. Yes. New set is in sept.
I thought BUS comes out on August 2.
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>>33072270
>tfw there's no mimikyu box anywhere in my city
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>>33069816
>1 reverse holo that can be anything
Anything which isn't a super-rare.
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>>33072270
Here we go
6HJ 4Y6T 29T BTH - SM
MLD 22NV YLL 7TX - Fates
PD9 WQNQ G6K 2TD - SM
2GG N6RV CGQ LD2 - Mimikyu

Can't find the others but enjoy.
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>>33071850
>Yea, some people at nats did this, but in my testing turtonator has accomplished nothing as a tech option against fire weakness without fire energy. It might be a bad tech.
I don't get how it could be a tech. So a pokemon is hitting for 40 (120 if they hit it back) off two energy? That's pretty bad.
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>>33072126
>4 of a mon, 4 of its BREAK, 4 of its EX/GX, and 4 of its Mega-EX
WRONG
You can have 4 normal, 4 BREAK, 4 EX, 4 GX, and 4 M EX.
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how will i survive without my beefu guys? shit's been my favorite deck since i started playing
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>>33072469
I think you fucked up the first code. Redeemed next three, packs contained, of note, a reverse holo Kyurem, a reverse holo Delphox, a devo spray, and a reverse holo Parasect.
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>>33072506
I see where i messed up, it's 29J
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>>33072519
i demand a refund anon!
btw i also collect irl, and just play online; tho i don't like buying sealed product because its way too expensive for the pull rate, i prefer buying what i like online or in yardsales
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>>33072531
Yeah buying sealed is a complete waste of you're looking for a specific card. I only really end up with them if there's a promo I want and have money to throw away on it.
Tell you what though, the tins are good places to store cards
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>>33072542
Pack wars are fun. Lowest HP gets both packs. I've won a Lele this way.
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>>33072542
yeah dude, but i think sealed also suck when i'm collecting and taking whatever comes my way
in euroland, a pack sells for between 5.50€ and 6.50€ depending on the shop (6.3-7.5$), and most of the time i'm only gonna unpack a non-holo rare... i can acquire most GX by buying them online for less than a pack's price too, and i say that as a collector
the thrill of opening is fun, but way too fuckin expensive lol

not to mention that once you've opened 4-5 packs, every common/uncommon are gonna stuff you already possess, so you pretty much pay 7$ for a reverse holo and a rare, like come on.

it was fun when i got back into collecting, but not anymore, i prefer the thrill of going in a yardsale and not knowing what i'll find in random binders, at least i spend a good day and don't waste my money, im not enough of a richfag to afford sealed product on the regular
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>>33072217
Because Safeguard only protects against EXs and not GXs, Carbink is only half as effective as it was unfortunately.

Fighting is kind of fucked right now (in Standard at least), not much to work with except the Lycanrocks and they are low tier builds at best. Gallade/Octillery had a minor revival working with Mallow instead of Korrina. Machamp GX is coming in the next set but it's going to be clunky as fuck. Best to start from scratch, or go to expanded, and there are better Fighting decks in Expanded.
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>>33072580
>nd there are better Fighting decks in Expanded.
The little elephant dude is cool, but basically every deck dies instantly to Maxie's Yveltal and Nightmarch.
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>>33072566
>>33072549
By the way, I found the other codes
QQN XVBQ PXT CHD - Evolutions Mewtwo
RCT WKL4 G4H WKB - Breakthrough
GCT YPLW Z2K NZM - SM

67Y D9C2 JTG XZJ - Togedemaru
BMH DXR4 TQY C6B - SM
GBL VHZY VH6 4PT - SM
74X 7JC6 HVM 4LM - SM

VGV ZJRZ NKR WPM - Solgaleo
42M B6XM RWL BN7 - Evolutions
M2T C4NW 6ZM XWQ - SM
K6Q HG4T 9DW MQQ - Breakthrough
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>>33072598
thanks again anon, managed to snatch a BKT and EVO
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>>33072598
Oh shoot, I didn't mean to grab the mewtwo deck, I already have this.
Does anyone want this other than me? Maybe someone just starting out?
I'd keep it, but I don't think it contains anything of value, so I feel it might help somebody else out there more.
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>>33072681
I'd gladly take it. I only have the Forest theme deck. Username is Teabiskuit.
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>>33072681
Please add me and then I will be online this afternoon, now I'm heading to work. I suppose I could bring a tablet with me to play.

Well, add me anyway pls.
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Does anyone have a tradable copy of Power Relay? It annoys me that I joined slightly too late to get it.
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>>33072705
>>33072713
Added.
Fair warning, this thing is trash. Basically only useful for fulfilling {P} and {F} daily quests, and those better served with Lunala and Inceniroar.

Only worse that I've used is Pikachu Power, which I honestly had trouble even winning AI games with.
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I'm searching for a theme set of either Mimikyu, Incineroar, or... just anything I can get ahold of.
My user name is ZahnwehZombie.
I will appreciate anything that I can get, but I am trying to get back into a game that I fell out of playing because I couldn't find anyone else to play with.
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>>33072848
incenaroar has a theme set, yes.
and while mimikyu has no theme deck, the Lunala one does contain 1 mimikyu.

Both are 500 tokens in the shop, which is largely chump change. You will have that much by the time you beat the singleplayer to claim your 45 free packs.

You're especially lucky in that they're probably the best two available right now.
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Rip in piss FoGP
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>>33073379
Finally, the nightmare is over.
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>>33073379
Called the bans on fogp and archeops when they first announced considering bans.

I was also expecting a ghetsis or a compressor ban possibly but this is good enough.
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People already opening up Burning Shadows boxes on youtube.
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>>33072986
Fuck, I am looking up stuff online just to see what is best to get for a good starter deck.
Dear god, I am so far behind in terms of trying to understand what I should get.
Any recommendations on what I should be going for?
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>>33072126
Alright cleared some things up thanks! My last question was still unclear though, when Zoroark uses foul play what type does the move count as? Dark or whatever it borrows from?
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>>33073457
is this for real? if it is, holy fuck.
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Man I was looking forward to Decidueye in expanded.

Pretty sure forest is banned because the knowledge of Venusaur, and Archeops just because tpci wants variety in their tournaments.

Tpci wants fun.
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>>33074022
They don't want fun, they just want players not to quit because the meta became stupid.

If they really wanted fun, they'd have more official formats. Something like unlimited with a ban list or even acknowledging Legacy.

The only reason expanded exists is for them to sell products that don't interfere with standard. Now, they even closed the promo reprint loophole to make sure that any card can be sold over and over.

Screencap this: the new jp Shaymin EX will get a trainer box right after rotation becomes effective.
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>>33073579
The type of a move is always the same as the type of the Pokemon using it, so yes, it's dark.

>>33074279
I hope we get that Shaymin in any capacity, I love the artwork. I'd have bought a Japanese one already if it wasn't being sold for such stupid prices.
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>>33048174
>I actually beat Keldeo EX with this fucker, getting every head ever
>opponent left the battle

I understand him. That was fucking bullshit.
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>>33074022
It's so they can release good grass types without being like "but how will this affect expanded???" every time.
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>>33025791
Is there any online pokemon card game that is along the lines of ygopro for yugioh or cockatrice for magic where you can build any deck you want from the jump?
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>>33073457

>It's real

I wonder how Yveltal going to get played now. I don't want to lose Gallade but Lasers might be the way to go. Could add a Marshadow tech for Darkrai.

Vileplume and Decidueye decks are dead. But out side of a few decks I don't see Archeops being banned all that game changing. The speed of decks still keeps things in check more then anything else.
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Decidueye is deeeaad.
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>>33074921
Good
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No one ever thought those two were fair anyway.
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>tfw haven't been playing the game for like 6-7 months
>came back to it two days ago
>shaymin is affordable once more (~15 boosters instead of ~30)
>tapu lele is the new hot shit worth ~30 boosters
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So with Shaymin dead in standard will there be a rise in Octillery use?
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I kind of want to play the pokemon TCG but no one plays around where i live, is it a good idea to play online or am i too late to start now?
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>>33075539

Online is completely fine to pick up. Just be ready to farm a lot before you will be able to play a competitive deck (unless you want to throw dosh at the screen)
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>>33075539
I was also a bit lost when I started online, but really, you get experience really fast.

There is a lot of variety online since people do not really care that much for taking risks. Of course, there are people playing meta decks as well. But you get to see all sorts of cards and you'll get used to them in no time.
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So what is happening in burning shadows that is making tapu koko an even better card?
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>>33025791
Pulled this in 18 packs of Burning Shadows. How I do?
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>>33073457
>>33074022
Archeops was the only reason NM survived in expanded. RIP
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>>33076142
Great. If I'm not mistaken, previous sets had 1 notable rare per 6 packs. In other words you could get only 3 rares from 18 pack.
The only problem it's too diverse, you need to complete 4-4-4 line of something. The more rares are in set, the more time you'll spend to collect, if not buying singles from shop.
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>>33075938

Scoop-up is coming back so if a deck can't one shot you they can't take prizes.

Problem is, you can't one shot anything out side of your GX attack and too many decks can just one shot you.
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