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>no /pgg/ - Pokemon Go General
You fucked up

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That feel when small town.

>>32841829
suppose I was a bit hasty. I admit to fuck up

Also I have a pokemon in a gym that's been there for 12 hours, heart/motivation is empty, says it has only had one berry (from me). When do I get it back?

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the new gym system is shit because of the lackluster rewards

it's like what's the point

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So I just came back from a 4 hour gym run. I'm Instinct, and had to empty out every gym.

I mostly hate this update. On one hand, the TOTAL number of fights you need to clean out the gym is much lower (like 36 vs old 50). On the other, I feel like it's so tedious that I see 4 mons in a gym and immediately think about giving up regardless of the CP of the mons in it.

The way it seems to work is that the heart has 6 fights' worth of motivation. If you win a fight once against a defender with a full heart, you have like 5 more fights left to kick it out; on a side note, every time you beat it, the defender's CP loses a large chunk. Once the heart is empty, the CP number turns into a dark red colour and you have to beat it then to kick it out. My ballpark for the threshold for dark red CP is about 1/3 of the original CP. I don't know what actually goes into the CP reduction calculations (for losing fights, and for time decay), it seems to be dependent on the Pokemon. e.g. I have a 153 CP karp who lost like 4 CP over 30 minutes while a Dragonite lost a few hundred.

From what I can tell, feeding a Pokemon berries gives you two heart tiers. At least, that's what I saw with Nanab berries. Dunno about the others.

So what does this mean?
It means every Pokemon, shitmon or Blissey, is guaranteed min 6 fights each before getting kicked out. If Niantic broke their existing anti-gym sniping measures or you take too long to give that defender a hyper potion, have fun fighting somebody's shitmon 6+ times because they sniped you. Also this assumes that nobody is going to come by and add Pokemon and keep feeding it berries. Can't keep it topped off just because it loses a few CP every few minutes though, wouldn't let me. So I'm guessing it has to lose full tiers before getting hungry again.

tl;dr - It made defending for shitters with shitmons and attacking is only easy in the best case where there is nobody around replacing mons and feeding mons berries. aka. fuck Instinct

>>32841837
wait for the raids

I miss the gyms are up meme. ;_;

GYMS ARE DOWN

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>>32841839
Other things to mention:
- Either there's an Instinctfag who is feeding my solo gyms for no good reason without putting in his own mons or the guy(s) who gave the 3 hour ballpark for pure time decay is(are) off by a couple hours. I am at 3+ hours on my first gym defender and he is still at half a heart. Either Niantic changed it on the fly or the 3 hour guy just got kicked out by an enemy trainer.

- Battles won seem to be shared amongst all attacking party members like an Exp. All. If you beat one Pokemon, everybody in the party gets +1 to Battles won.

- This also must be the same system that Niantic used to track shit internally even if the Battles Won counter was broken in the old gym system. Also seems to have counted for defenders because the defenders I never used to attack with have a few hundred battles won and shit. I know for a fact that I didn't take down 1400 vapes with this Jolteon.

- Spinning a gym while it's your team's gives you a +1 item team bonus. Bronze badges give +1 and they turn bronze basically after your first battle so just spinning a bronze allied gym is automatically better than most Pokestops. I heart silver and gold badges give more items so I can't wait.

- I don't know if it's my phone reception or a general problem but I kept having this fucking issue where suddenly the (GO TO BATTLE) button is disabled while I'm loading up my team and never comes back until I quit out and go back in. It's like there's a bug where after a timeout it automatically thinks it's too far away from the gym and prevents me from fighting so I have to load my team real fast. Wasted so much time on that.

- On the note of timeouts, an in-game network timeout for d/cing while trying to initiate a gym fight is several minutes. Literally faster to kill the app and restart it and then load your team again instead of waiting for the game to report NETWORK ERROR.

Is there some time you have to wait before you can add mons to a gym once someone has flipped it to your team? Mate just took a gym, and now I'm unable to add shit

>>32841841
no because if I expect anything from them, I'll just end up getting disappointed

>>32841839
are you the instinct guy I was trying to tell earlier that this would fucking suck for you

this system is only going to get worse for you

>>32841836
i think sameone needs t oattack it first

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What the fuck lads

>>32841839
>tfw local instinct group stormed the city as the gyms got open
>we took 1/4rd of the city, more than ever
>yesterday I had 17 gyms
>14 now
>raid planned on 5pm

get your shit together anon

>>32841851
im just saying raids will provide better rewards

this gym rework is still shit tho

>>32841860
Your trainer needs to eat too

>>32841860

Better feed yourself that berry, nigger.

>>32841860
suck on that fruit and use your tongue you berry bitch

>everyone keeps putting old 3k dnites into gyms
>i put 1700 cp lapras and 1400 cp umbreon

I feel wierd, but I do the right thing, right?

>>32841878
it doesnt make much difference what shitmon you put in

>>32841856
So my mon is just going to stay there in a weak state unless given berries 3 times a day? That's about how often it seems to need them. And I won't even get any coins from it more than likely. Awesome. Oh well, easy 1000 hour gym badge coming up.

Other question: gym battlers, is your Gym Battle medal increasing?

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I miss him

>>32841882
feed him treats anon he's hungry

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>CP doesn't mean dick anymore
>even the shittest shitmons require several battles to kick out and actually lose motivation slower

Holy fucking shit, I can't believe Niantic made karenfagging viable. I am immediately diverting all resources away from powering up Tyranishit and putting it all on my favorite bros. This is the best update ever.

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>>32841839
>>32841849
- HAHA SHINIES

- Holy fucking shit, heaven forbid you get any desync. The HP and charge bars bounce around like yo-yos on crack until the server decides you totally beat the Pokemon. Same goes for attempts at SWITCHING (not dodge fail). I would switch, start mashing, and then game would switch to the first Pokemon, then switch back and I lose the charge bar. So fucking infuriating.

- Daily limit on coin income is reported to be 100 coins. That's 100 hours or a little over 4 days. This means that what you can do to farm +100 coins every day is by holding at least 5 gyms for 100 hours continuously each. Every day, you collect on a Pokemon for 100 coins, and put it back into a gym until 5 days pass, where you collect it and get another 100 coins. This seems like the most minimum effort scheme if you can visit every 3-4 hours to feed it berries and nobody attacks it. This update is basically a botter's wet dream. If you somehow live on top of a Pokestop and can keep your mons in it 24/7 you can probably maintain the 100 hour requirement easily if you are willing to wake up in the night for 1-2 feedings. Like I said in the previous post, defending is much easier so farming coins will be much easier for cheaters and autists in the long run. Pure walkers like me are kind of fucked because I relied on the "collect 100 coins when I'm done and come back tomorrow" scheme because I don't have time to maintain a gym presence 24/7, let alone 5. But this does mean you need less gyms to max out your daily income if you play efficiently. It's a trade-off whose long-term effects won't be obvious for a while.
Alternatively, you can hold 5+ gyms and cash out all of them at once every 21(24?) hours. More gyms to recycle but you have to visit them regularly in either scenario anyway.

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>feeding berries to teammates Pokémon like a goddamn cuck
>suddenly the last spot gets taken by some Lv 36 player
>look around
>the gym is on a hill in the middle of nowhere with no one to be seen for miles
>spoofers

>>32841902
>>feeding berries to teammates Pokémon like a goddamn cuck
you get candy for it though

>>32841902
spoofers always win anon haven't you realized

>>32841898
>ure walkers like me are kind of fucked because I relied on the "collect 100 coins when I'm done and come back tomorrow" scheme because I don't have time to maintain a gym presence 24/7, let alone 5.

I think you really need to get in touch with yur local team. I don't really adore them, but cooperation allows me to keep plenty of gyms, eve thoug we're instinct

>>32841906
I haven't received a single candy and I have fed 80 mons
What am I doing wrong?

>>32841898
yea I mean I called this, it was too easy to get coins before and it was hurting their bottom line because good players were passively collecting coins and weren't paying money

this new system is so clearly from the bottom up to make getting coins harder

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>>32841921
the new gym system is literally exactly what spoofers want since it's harder for walkies and easier for spoofers

>>32841927
What ever happened to "illegitimate Pokemon are crossed out"
>expecting anything from Niantic

>3 gyms in town
> 1x red 1x blue 1x yellow

Well...im not sure what to think about this sicne al gyms were blue before.

time to get my batterypaks fired up

>>32841932
crossing only happened to hardcore bot users, almost no spoofers were affected. spoofing is alive and well. it's better than ever since the new gym system helps spoofies by making it harder for walkies to stay in a gym

slashing is for people who were botting 10 hours a day every day using really obvious bots

but dude think about it

niantic has evidence of hardcore botting on these accounts-- you have to be botting for 5 DAYS STRAIGHT before you get a WARNING that goes away after 2 WEEKS

and then MAYBE some of your pokes get SLASHED and you KEEP PLAYING

how is that a win

how does anybody see that as a win

why aren't those accounts banned the instant it's clear they're botting

and nothing is being done at all to spoofers

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>>32841927
To be fair, though, EVERYTHING will ALWAYS be easier for spoofers, no matter what it is. Unless they take out the game's core mechanic of being based on real-world location, cheating your location will always make every part of the game easier for you.

What Niantic needs to do isn't to make the game itself easier for everyone, but to combat cheating methods. And they have been doing that, even if it isn't to everyone's impossible expectation of "stop all spoofers somehow".

Battling spoofers and botters is probably going to be an eternal fight for Niantic, so the best they can do is slow them down or enact surprise countermeasures, which they have been doing. It might not seem like it's working because you'll still always see a spoofie or two trolling around the big city gyms, but all the "I updated my phone and now I can't spoof anymore???" posts surely speak for some percentage of spoofies that have been knocked down a peg.

>>32841932

The red lines were photoshop.

There is literally nothing you can do to stop spoofers. Reporting does nothing. Niantic just doesn't give a flying fuck.

co what's the difference whether I put 2k CP or 3k CP Tyranitar into a gym now?

The latter is a bit harder to combat, but will probably stay just as long, right?

>>32841962
just throw in a random shitmon anon who fucken cares

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>>32841839
>>32841849
>>32841898
- Bubblestrat is sadly still a viable option but now it is only possible with cooperation from an enemy team member.
e.g. you load up a gym with your 6 Raichus or 6 Horseas instantly and then keep them fed while your grinding account keeps plowing through them.
If some fag is talking about solo Bubblestrat'ing, he is multi-clienting. Moderate your offended reaction as however you feel about it.

Okay I'm done talking about new gyms.

>>32841852
I dunno, maybe. If you said it to someone who said they were going to do a gym run a couple hours ago, yeah.

>>32841861
>>32841909
The 6 gyms I hit up tonight used to be stable lv 10 Instinct gyms before the rework but I was the one who was usually maintaining them every couple days. But back then it was worth it to get +100 coins for every couple hours of legwork. Now, I'm going to get like 20-30 coins tops for a 4 hour gym run. Kind of sucks. And most of them were basically extra accounts for Mystic and Valor spoofers AFAICT. I watched this one guy go from lv 15 to lv 30+ within a month and he'd always be kicking teammates out to be a frontrunner with a 1500 CP shitmon. Shitheads like him were the reason I couldn't even get to stay in the gyms I maintained because my 3300 CP defenders kept getting kicked out for being too low.
There were other pockets of Instinct elsewhere but I personally don't really feel like associating with them because they're either normies who don't actually want organised play, not actually Instinct, or just full blown mad cheaters.
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>>32841893
Yeah man, there's something magical about seeing all these previously unloved Pokemon filling gyms. The meta is a lot more loose and easier now, but it's a huge breath of fresh air from the Blisseylaxitardon gyms.

>>32841962
>The latter is a bit harder to combat, but will probably stay just as long, right?
It'll probably stay up 5 minutes longer because that's how long it takes to heal up a party for another round. Just throw up any pokemon you want, it doesn't really matter anymore.

>>32841968
I was talking to an instinct player before gyms launched trying to explain how much harder it was going to be as a minority team player a few days ago, back when everybody was saying how much better this new system is

although I think most people still like the new system, it will be a little bit before people realize how much worse it is

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>>32841968
I decided to be a pure walker from the onset because there's no point to playing this shit game if I'm going to cheat. It's like cheating on your daily waste-of-time crossword puzzle and sudoku. Don't really care about others cheating but sadly this means disassociating from most of the Instincts in my town because I might as well be an efficient spoofer solo instead of being an inefficient spoofer and following them around for free help. The one Instinct I usually go on bike rides with quit recently and is leaving for the summer so can't even try to socialise even if I wanted to.

I would feel bad about the stable gyms but I'm the only reason these gyms were yellow in the first place and the Mystic and Valor spoofers sort of gave up on them after a few weeks of the area being a lv 1 Instinct gym all the time. Hell, the other Instinct players didn't even notice for a couple weeks. The Mystic/Valor/Grey spoofers do drive-bys every time there's an event but they never stay forever. I'm here until I'm lv 40 so I don't mind the coin loss TOO much but it is hampering my need to fill out my hat collection before I got back to hoarding coins for gift boxes. I'm lv 35, and already maxed out on space upgrades (at least, before inventories went up to 1500 today), and I have 33 Lucky Eggs that'll last me a year because of how slowly I play these days. I am not desperate for coins for now but I still need like several thousand coins to buy out all the hats and now 2k more coins for backpack space.

I'll probably stick to grinding a double Starbucks that's nearby on weekends from now on or looking for new stable gyms if the Instinct players don't come back to help me maintain my nearby gyms.

>>32841916
Sucks for me.

>>32841976
I think I remember your post, wasn't me if it's the one I think it is.

Why is the fucking jump between silver and gold gym medals so damn high?

>>32841880
Other question: gym battlers, is your Gym Battle medal increasing?

please answer this

>>32841981
>pic
>eevee paralyzed ant put in cocoon as food for weedles

scary

>You get coins when your pokémon returns to you after having it's motivation drop to 0. The rumors for now is about 1 coin per 1 hour. >Lag/issues might cause you to not see your coins before restarting your game.

This message from reddit for pokego thread.
Can we get really a coin this way?

>>32842020
its 1 coin per hour and maybe a 50 coin cap but unverified

>>32842020
I've had a mon in a gym for 15 hours. It's had 0 motivation for awhile but it's still in the gym. Not sure when it will get returned to me unless it has to be attacked, which could be a problem.

>>32841976
i think most people don't like the new system overall. it has some nice aspects like 1 max each of a species per gym, etc, but people expect coin rewards for fighting. now it seems like they can barely get anything.

>>32842033
T R E A D M I L L $ $ $ $ $ $ $

>>32842014
yes for battle girl

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>>32842040
i dont understand

>>32842032
motivation 0 + loose by attack = return

>>32842054
f2p games are designed to be treadmills you run on to frustrate you into paying money to avoid effort

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awwww shit nigga

>>32842033
for me getting coins when mon returns is ok

i flipped with anger when mons returned befor, now i'll get coins to sweeten it a bit

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>>32842059
ah gotcha. agreed.

>>32842032
This is the biggest grievance for me. Yeah, 1 coin an hour is horseshit, but you're not even *guaranteed* coins anymore, unlike the old system.

before:
>go sweep some gyms for an hour
>collect 50 coins
>go home and get comfy
>maybe 1-3 are around tomorrow depending on the area
now:
>go sweep gyms for an hour
>collect nothing
>4 poke come back after an hour
>2 bring back 1 coin
>5th lasts 2 hours
>get 4 coins
lol

>>32842045
Thanke Hanke. I have 870/1000 done for Battle Girl but 1200/1000 for Ace Trainer, so I'm good. woot

>>32842073
they could literally fix this by giving a base amount of coins for 0 hours, like 10 coins.

>>32842073
>i don't like the game but i still I want to get coins for sitting on coach and not playing

I understand people who don't like it. I din't get why they insist on playing and gathering coins tho.

before:
>go to the sole gym for a minute
>collect 10 coins
>go home and get comfy
>still there tomorrow because everyone is red
now:
>go to the sole gym for a minute
>collect nothing
>nothing comes back after an hour
>nothing ever comes back
>get 0 coins
lol

Things I love about this update:

>shitmons being viable defenders
>gym redesign is nice
>a use for those nanab berries
>leveling gym badges is super comfy and turns gyms into pokestops on roids

Things I hate:

>switching causes the game to spazz out for a second
>gym battles are laggier than ever before
>arcanine is about 9000 feet tall
>1 coin per hour is a joke

>>32842088
>1 coin per hour is a joke

Doesn't it increase with badge progress?

Also, thing that bugs me the most is gyms being super laggy

>>32842080
from their perspective it is fixed, it's hard to get coins now so you have to pay if you want them unless you're dedicating several hours a day just to gyms

>>32842082
yea nah you had to go out and play in the old system. the point is the rate at which you do it and that the new one is way worse. why are there always people like you defending shitty decisions

>>32842085
there's also supposedly a cap on how many one defender can collect for you, so if your guy is stuck in the gym for a long time he's doing nothing

>>32842103
>why are there always people like you defending shitty decisions

I don't consider new system to be great and all, I just consider the old one even worse. It was incredibly tedious and boring

>>32842100
>Doesn't it increase with badge progress?

Has this been confirmed anywhere?

>>32842110
yeah i wonder too

>>32842110
some guy on reddit claimed to get 2 coins per hour but theres no reason to believe it, that would translate to ~50 coins a day for one defender

the fucked up part of this new system is that it makes me hate my own team because they're taking up the gym and I can't do anything there, I don't want to feed any teammates I just want them gone

before you used to have to prestige up a gym and it took some effort so only more dedicated players would do it and gyms filled up slow so you could usually get in

now they fill up instantly and it's mostly randoms with shitmon taking up all the slots

>>32842127
fuck you misticshit

Everyone knows who the spoofers are in our area. We've been battling against them for ages. Today, they were the first in all the gyms. I knocked the motivation down of all the pokes in one gym 3 times. Waited to see what would happen, a few minutes later their motivation was back at 100%.
Legit players can't feed berries from afar. Don't have time to drive to multiple gyms per day. Won't earn nearly as many coins. While spoofers save on gas, time, and earn more free coins. If Niantic can't/won't ban the damn spoofers, they should at least allow us to feed berries to our pokes until we are ready for them to come home.

>>32842132
I agree. I feel like I am missing something. The same spoofers we have around here spoofed into their gyms and then filled them completely with all of the same accounts they did as before the rework. So, they sit watching tv, collecting berries and remotivating their Pokémon. I am confused at how this addresses the spoofing problem. Maybe it is still too early to tell and the rework is not finished.

>>32842135
I might have missed out on something but how was this new system supposed to combat spoofing in any way? I don't see how there really is anything more they could do now that they couldn't before, spoofing is and will always be in the game. I see the new system as being more difficult for legit players than spoofers.

Now I have 6 gyms in my sight from home, in each of which I have a pokemon. Now I can check their CP, feed them at best moments and take them back when I want to. I love new update!

>>32842132
Yeah this is definitely starting to look grim for gyms. I mean yay we have raids which theoretically can't be ruined, but still.
Remote feeding wouldn't even solve the issue because they can still keep attacking remotely.
The rework was not a success sadly.

We were waiting for a real end-game for such a long time, and we got this? I mean i love the new animation before each fight, the ability that we can get out of the fights (again you dont let us change pokemon between fights, was that so difficult to implement?), gyms are now pokestops, and all those things are cool and all but,
did you really thought that 1 coin per hour will motivate people to attack gyms?
While all the bugs are still there, the same mindless tapping combat (i am fine with that, but not everyone is), not a single reward for fighting yet again, that's been asked since release.
And now you shove our throats that we can't even get coins, since its now impossible for many of us to hold gyms for more than 30 minutes, not to mention hours that you want us to do.
While all the spoofers/bots (have an even easier time now) jump around and already have 20 gyms, with 6 accounts right away throwing them in there and getting everything quite easily, and still 0 bans,
I still see the same spoofers i was seeing since 8-9 months ago with the same multi-accounts (same name, different number) reported countless times but still there.
Playing solo is pointless since you wont be able to hold a gym for long, but even if you have a team and you go all together its the same thing, you again wont be able to do much, or get rewarded as much as before.
I don't know i feel like the current system will just make most of players quit for good and not look back, i hope this is all a lie, a bug i don't know, but something needs to change quick before its too late.

>>32842144
The sad thing is they got everything else right except the reward at the end.
So all that work, all this progress in the right direction, and none of it matters because the entire endeavor is worthless.
I can't really see a benefit to fighting gyms any more. For what? an extra item per spin? I could visit so many more pokestops in the time it takes to get a gym. For exp? Catching and mass lucky egg evolves greatly outweigh battles. Being able to feed berries for rewards? I can just let my teammates take the gyms and feed their pokemon, and spend my time catching and spinning and walking.
They gutted gyms for me. Before their was no point in prestiging, now the entire gyms are useless beyond being extra pokestops.

>>32842145
Aside from Blissey's HP, I had few issues with the old gym system. It was actually fun the way that it played out in my neighborhood.
There was a really special nearby gym at a bus stop that regularly turned over between the three teams and never made it much higher than Level 5 or 6.
Everyone was always able to get in on the fun, no matter if they were level 18 or 35. There was an unspoken aura about what Pokemon you'd put in. It was more about having a cool Pokemon you liked than trying to stack it with only the best.
I don't see that gym diversity anywhere else and with the update it was already stacked with the 6 big defenders within 45 minutes of the changes going live.

>>32842146
I don't know exactly how to feel about the "new" gyms. I was pretty used to the old system and did very well for myself. While people complained that they were stagnant I saw them go up and down overnight, battling and prestiging went on but the same players kept coming back so to the casual observer they never moved. Today, the gyms were just full of spoofers and the few I had to attack went down in 15 minutes. I interacted with 11 gyms today and either joined an open slot or beat a gym and claimed it and so far I have earned 32 coins. My defenders are all currently "near death" because I am not out there feeding them but the spoofer defenders are super healthy. I went back 6 hours after my initial gym run today to check on them and I was still in 9 of the 11 gyms but every single defender was down to minimum CP and required half a dozen berries to bring back to health. Every. Single. Other. Defender. was already at full health. It was just me mostly dead in the gyms. I didn't see any other players actually playing. It was just me, alone in the parking lots and sitting by the lake. All defenders other than me at full health, never changing. I mean, you have to get kicked out to get your coins now so at least there is that but I feel our legitimate players are going to quit playing this version of the gym game very quickly.

>>32842144
This could be an app killer. For a lot of us, once we filled the Pokedex, the main goal was to stay competitive in the gym game. Everything was a cycle pushing toward that goal. You need stardust to get stronger Pokemon to keep in gyms to earn stardust, and so on and so on. You needed XP to level up so you could max out stronger Pokemon. It looks like this meta is going to push casual players and even dedicated non-spoofers out of the gym game. If battling gyms has no meaningful rewards for players who don't spoof and get or stay in a ton of gyms all day long, there's no reason to need strong Pokemon, or stardust, or XP or anything. And if this was supposed to make gyms relevant to the casual player, it looks like it won't. Not many casual players are going to want to fight a Blissey 6 times to take a gym that will yield them no coins.

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>do gym run
>almost every gym is still stacked with 4x weakness legacy top defenders

Ice to meet you, Mr. Dragonite!

I think the gym thing actually has potential to balance out the rural vs city thing a bit. IF you simplify it a lot. City folks can get just about everything they need via lots of pokestops, rural players have to spend more pokecoins to get balls and things. Rural players ~should~ be able to get more coins this way...except that really only a few of them will be able to because there's probably only 1 , ~maybe~ 2 gyms within 30 minutes (or more) of them...Or none will be able to use them at all because a spoofer will put really high CP stuff up at all hours of the day and knock your stuff out within a few minutes. But fewer players means in a perfect world they could hold them for a pretty good amount of time.
For city players, this generally just sucks because taking down a gym takes longer, there isn't really any benefit because you're lucky if you get to keep it for even an hour, and it just isn't fun to sit there and tap your phone for 40 minutes.
For players that live in medium sized cities where there are a shit ton of players (and even more spoofers), but not actually enough pokestops to give you enough game items to play like you want to, and can't compete in the gyms because you can't seem to get enough healing potions from stops OR stay in a gym long enough to get coins.
I want to enjoy this so much, and I keep playing, but I wonder how long it is until my hope that I will one day actually have fun playing it just totally dies out.
It's nice to have something sorta fidgeting to do on walks--it is helping me walk a bit longer still! But damn, at least with Ingress you had something sorta engaging with the field creating thing. You had to collaborate and think a bit with some of those (and yeah, that did get old after a while), but pokego doesn't have any game parts. It's just a farm that drains your phone battery really quickly and helps your outside walks be a little less dull.

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>>32842154
I honestly think people are overreacting before they understand all the changes.
They mentioned that with higher level badges for gyms the better reward you will get. Everyone now has bronze badges but with higher level badges we could potentially see 2 or more coins an hour for having higher level badges..who knows. This would incentivize holding a core set of gyms and constantly trying to keep them.
Yes there are flaws and room for improvement but this game is iterative and takes time to hone and rebalance the game. I like the new battle system, there's no more holding gyms for days at a time and you can actually take a Max gym down and turn it within a reasonable time. Having churn at gyms is good IMO.
I agree with incentivizing attacking though. My idea would be to calculate the damage you've contributed to taking down a gym and giving players a reward based on that contribution.
This would help make solo players experience better as well as taking an entire gym down yourself should be rewarded.

I had just finished work and grudgingly started the walk back home, but hey at least it's nice out. I booted up PoGo to walk my Larvitar and then I saw it. A big ol' 2.5k Snorlax atop the local gym. In all it's glory even if it wasn't my team. I was so excited. I sprinted to the gym. I sat there for 30 minutes defeating it...except.. the last battle. Someone drove up and joined in for the last 2 hits. And when I went to put in my beloved, it was Mystic. I can't believe Niantic overlooked priority for who lowered motivation by over 2k opposed to the...20 the other guy did. Regardless I took him out and claimed my prize. The new system is really cool and I love it but...the sniping...may become a huge problem again. I hope this was a one off experiance. Needless to say, go get 'em folks.
Had an epic battle between a Snorlax and Dragonite which concluded with me being sniped in a driveby Mystic shooting.

>>32842154
The update is a punch in the face for grinders like me who spent a lot of stardust and real money on this game. I am sitting on a total of 10 pokemon over 3k which are almost useless right now because of the decay rate. Sure, they serve as attacker, but who needs 4 Gyarados, 4 Vaporeon? Who uses a 3k Blissey as attacker?
But still, this would be okay for me. But now the part which ruins everything for me.
I loved this game which is why I supported it. To become "The very best" I loved travelling to a lot of rural places and earned my spot in the gym there. I know there is no such thing like "a right for daily reward coins". But well, I feel that me and many others out there also earned that by travelling far distances.
But now we have lost control over coin collection and the current system is basically "lose to win coins". This is the final nail in the coffin for me and ruins all my motivation to continue playing this "game."

>theres a 10 minute lock out on a second pokemon being added to a gym

So what am I supposed to do with my GF then? Just hope to God no one kicks whoever is on it out before the 2nd person can join?

>>32842139
>I see the new system as being more difficult for legit players than spoofers.

The point of game is forcing you to walk around. As long as spoofers can fake walking around, they win at every aspect

Their advantage lies in the core idea of PoGo

>>32842175
Don't give up yet fellow trainer! I'm 100% with you on the 3k mons being destroyed, i felt physically sick when thinking about it this morning, my best mons just wiped out, months of grinding, literally stupid. Niantic will change / fix some of these things or at least we'll find ways of working round them. Hang in there and wait for the raids!

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>>32842176
It only happens sometimes, it's most likely a glitch. If you check the button it will display the 'Gym under attack' message.

>>32842179
The more I read and think about things, the more it is evident that the new system is simply a spoofers paradise. Not sure how much longer I can take it. It is time to decide whether to join them or quit.
New advantages for spoofers:
Slots open immediately so they don't have to prestige, just move GPS and drop and keep moving.
They can keep feeding berries without physically going to the gym, thus accumulating infinite stardust and defending their mons.
They can participate in any raid under the sun, thus accumulating great items and capturing more great pokemons.
The gap b/t spoofers and real players is going to get much, much worse.
And Niantic does not seem to care at all. Spoofers continue to boldly post videos and text on how easy it is to do and how there are no repercussions. It's like cheating on your taxes and admitting it live on TV. Do you think the IRS would sit by and take that? No, you will be audited, fined, and potentially imprisoned.
In PokemonGo, you get rewarded with a system that gives you an even bigger advantage.
How much longer must real players suffer?

>>32842188
Sadly I agree, and this was honestly it for me. I had hope that it would be different, but with the longer time you have to battle (I would guess 2-3 times as long), to spoofers being able to just keep feeding a berry to the pokemon that is being attacked so then the gym never gets taken down, to only getting one coin per hour per gym (when my gyms in my town are ruled by spoofers who will take the gym right back if it is taken), I have given up on the game. Call me a quitter, but as a rural player who has no one else to play with, there just isn't a point to try and fight it anymore. If you really look at the update, it's just the same old gym system, just more pretty and harder to use. I guess Niantic really is making their game only about squeezing the most amount of money they can out of players, and really are screwing over those who are rural and solo.

>>32842159
>>almost every gym is still stacked with 4x weakness legacy top defenders


same here. Wonder if they'll ever learn

>>32842188
In addition to everything you said, I suspect there are bots already made that feed the spoofers' Pokemon in gyms.
During the night (I was awake til 4AM) all the Pokemon in gyms around me stayed at constant almost full motivation bar. Sure there could have been players that were parked near the gym and kept feeding their Pokemon, but I highly doubt that was the case.
Dealing with spoofers will become increasingly difficult in this meta. In high turnover areas I really don't see even the highest level solo players making a dent in the gyms, or earning even 10 Pokecoins per day.

I'm only level 27. I live in a rural/suburb area that was previously completely controlled by ten members of a different team.
I'm pretty sure most of those ten were cheaters, so I have my fingers crossed they won't be taking anything over anytime soon, but even if they were legit and they eventually do, this update is already way better than before.
Here's why:
I don't have to dedicate more than a minute to any friendly gym.
Believe me, if I had the time I would be level 35+ participating in raids right now. But I don't, so I'm stuck at 27 and probably will be for a while.
I never controlled gyms before the update. I didn't have the time to prestige them and in the off chance I came across a friendly gym, rarely could I just drop one of my Pokémon.
Yesterday at one point I had ten Pokémon in gyms. Ten! This morning I still have 5, some of them full with team members. Before work this morning I even had time to drop two more into friendly gyms.
I think this is something people definitely glossing over. Hardcore players are going to take out a casual players gym regardless, but at least this way more casual players get to reap the rewards by driving by and dropping one of their Pokémon to help with the fight, even helping the hardcore team member who put in the work to take down the local Goliath.

>>32842188
>ITT anon compares cheating in a video game to tax fraud, a crime with a statue of limitations only matched by murder.

>>32842159
>>32842198
Hey, I put a x4 weak 2100cp Omastar named SmashMouth into a gym, fuck using dragonite and gyarados as defenders when I can use them to shit stomp the demotivated blissey cucks in seconds.

>local instinct gang of pure walkies

They already debate on lauching few bots to feed our mons on gyms we regularely take... this system is corrupting

>>32842208
Look at that:
Pokémon in Gym. Motviation low.
Maybe I should create a second account, spoof to the gym and feed it.
I wont be caught if I use another account, another provider. Perfect.
It's like Niantic wants us to spoof.

>>32842209
>shit stomp
This. We aggro dragons now. They are shit at defending but they paint the gym walls with whoever is sitting in there.

>>32842215
my local team group already has feed bots up and running and is discussing who not in the group to put on the "whitelist" for feeding

fucken lol

I have to say, I'm quite underwhelmed by the new system to a point where I believe we took a step backwards.
The single thing I like about the new system are gym badges; they're probably the only reason I feel like batteling a gym at the moment.
And while there's only one thing I like about the new system, here's a list of things I dislike:
Spoofers have the upper hand - It's funny how Niantic made it even easier for spoofers to control gyms than before. Bots are feeding Pokemon with berries automatically which makes it incredibly hard for legit players to take down gyms. Not to mention, only spoofer are able to maintain control of gyms that are not local.
Solo players get the middle finger - Sure, I get Niantic wants us to socialize, but they could have gone with a different approach that wouldn't leave solo players outside the gym scene. At the moment, it takes around 30~45 minutes for a single player to take down a full rival gym, because you have to defeat each Pokemon between 5 to 7 times in order to kick it out. Niantic could have made it easier for solo players to take down gyms while rewarding player who play cooperatively with more XP or rewards. That way there would still be an incentive for both solo and coop play.
No end game - With prestiging out of play, there's little to no interaction with gyms once controlled, especially if you live in an area where your team is dominant.

>>32842231
Bad Reward : Effort ratio - You get 1 coin for every hour your Pokemon defends a gym. In urban places, where gyms constantly change hands, it's almost impossible to gather enough coins for a single egg incubator. While rural players might be able to keep their Pokemon in gyms longer, there's still a 100 coin cap per day. That means players might not receieve full credit if a few of their Pokemon are kicked out of gyms on the same day. The old system was way more rewarding, IMO.
Even more Pokemon are useless now - Pokemon like Dewgong who have a relatively low max CP had a part in gym play as prestigers / attackers. Right now there's little to no reason to take down rival gyms using Pokemon with sub-par max CP, as the same amount of CP is shaved off defending Pokemon whether you're using a level 1 Pidgey or a level 30 Dragonite, and prestiging is out of the question anyway.
I have left out raids and the fact you're able to spin gym discs out of my list, because those features could have been introduced even with the old gym system in place.
I really hope Niantic will continue to improve the new system. Otherwise, there's even less reason for us to battle gyms than we did a week ago.

>>32842231
I battled gyms all the time. At least once a week I would take down multiple level 8-10 gyms by myself. I hated it, but it was possible. I tried to take my first post-update gym yesterday. It had three Pokemon in it. I spent 20 minutes just kicking two of those three Pokemon out. Normally I finish off a level 4-5 gym with multiple high CP Blissey/Snorlax/Dragonite in less time than that. While I was battling, several players from that team drove up and successfully stalled me out by feeding berries to the Pokemon I was battling. When they finally gave up, I was able to kick the first two Pokemon out. Then, before I could battle the 3rd, the owners of the first two Pokemon I kicked out pulled up beside the gym, put their Pokemon right back in and fed berries to the third Pokemon I had battled once already to refill it's Motivation, then they drove off, laughing all the way as I gave up, realizing there was no way I would be able to take over this simple level 3 gym, much less the other gyms that were already filled with Blissey, Snorlax, Dragonite, Gyrados, Rhydon and Vaporeon.

Hey all, I understand that everyone is excited about this update, however, I have noticed several issues regarding cheating that needs to be fixed..
Spoofers have the ability to spin many stops and therefore will be able to stock up berries and potions.
A solo player takes about 30mins to wipe out 6 pokemon in the gym and a spoofer can immediately take it back after all the effort spent
Having a gym badge and notification makes it easier for spoofers to know which gym they have lost
Having the ability to spoof, they can keep feeding berries to their pokemon without having to move from home
The amount of coins they can get is still 100 per day while legit players like us can only get max 10 if we're lucky (in Singapore, gyms overturn rate is high, sometimes within minutes), whereas in the past, it is easy to get 20~30 coins if we drive around the neighborhood to take down gyms
This update is by no means bad, however, spoofing issue has created a large gap between spoofers and legit players. The amount of effort I need to make to take down 1-2 gyms is much more compared to last time, whereas spoofers have it easy with unlimited amount of potions and at the ease of comfort.

>>32842242
Yeah, this is the sad reality. Niantic needs to deal with spoofers. There are NO excuses for not having dealt with spoofers in the past. There are NO technical limitations to detect spoofing since apps like Uber are able to detect GPS manipulation. Niantic can easily detect spoofers if they wanted to. The question is why Niantic refuses to deal with spoofers.
The red slash on pokemon are only affecting bots, not spoofers so Niantic hasn't made any progress whatsoever in the fight against spoofers.
Don't give us the usual PR speech about wanting a fair playground in the game when us legit players are CLEARLY seeing that nothing is being done with spoofers and that your recent red slash mechanic doesn't affect spoofers. Tell us why Uber can detect GPS manipultion but Niantic can't for almost an entire year now. Us legit players want to know what's really going on now.

I'm a lvl40 valor player that's has been doing Gyms and collecting 100coins/day since August.
Tonight I went out with 3 friends (2xlvl38 and 1 lvl39) to start the gym hype.
We started at 10.00pm and ended at 3.30 am local time. We visited 18 Gyms, I placed a pokemon in 15 of them. We started going to regular valor Gyms in the area that used to last a lot but we changed our strategy to going to highly contested Gyms to see if we could get some coins back.
We started dropping blisseys laxs lapras poliwrath etc on the first Gyms but soon realized it wasn't worth it. In the last 6 Gyms we did we just dropped lvl1 funny things, miltank, Xmas pika, porygon etc.
We wandered for a little while longer feeding berry's to our teammates pokemons and went home.
One Gym lasted 10 minutes (a lvl40 mystic player lives there) and the pokemon came back carrying no coins. All the other 14 pokemons are there at this exact moment (including 10 cp charmander, 17 cp chansey, 21 cp porygon, 440 cp milltank etc).
Imo, this update was designed for low levels and casuals. Nothing against it, but I dislike the idea of wasting my time and effort and get nothing back from it... And there's literally nothing I can do to get my coins back...
Maybe I'm seeing this from the wrong perspective but atm theres not much for me in the gym game... One of the things I loved the most in this game...
What are your thoughts on this new gym rework?
For me, the only thing I would change is the way the coins are awarded, you should get 1 coins for every hour 1 pokemon of yours is in a gym and 1 coins immediately after placing your Mon. And please... Raise that dust bonus from feeding berry's to 50 dust or it won't be even worth it to feed berry's.

>>32842257
Immediate reward would just create a unique instance where two opposing teams can just constantly take each others Pokemon out and consistently reap the rewards over and over.
The real problem is Team stacking; places where one Team heavily controls areas will have an even greater advantage than they used to.
So a solution to both those problems would be: Knocking out Pokemon will yield coin rewards to both the Trainer who deposited and the Trainer(s) who knocked them out.
This way people might not be so quick to knock a Gym down if there will be no coin return, while benefiting casual and veterans alike. Additionally, if you're in an area heavily dominated by opposing Team Gyms, you're in luck because now you've become a Sharpedo in a Magicarp pond (meaning you can become a dedicated attacker and still earn coins).

>>32842261
It doesn't matter at all. Every other F2P game gives the equivalent of $1 worth of Gems or Coins or whatever. It's proven marketing that if you give people a small amount of your in game items they will want to purchase more. It's not like the in game items are useful for anything other than playing Pokémon Go.
Players who don't spend money still won't and 100 coins a day isn't going to pay for daddy's incubator / raid ticket addiction. The one thing it might actually matter for is Lucky eggs. The one thing that might actually encourage people to play.
They should have just set it at 10 coins per Pokémon return 5 coins per hour unable to cash in on the same gym more than once. This would have made the game rewarding for all teams equally (even underdog teams) and would probably have been enough to get a lot of people who uninstalled interested in playing again.

Can you fucks please use less words in your posts thanks

>>32842267
this lol

>>32842257
I like the idea of getting coins based on how lonn a defender stays in a gym, but they need to tinker with the system. You should be guaranteed a coin for placing a Pokémon in a gym, and I think there should be a threshold wherein your coins are doubled and potentially tripled.
Basically, it seems much harder to get 100 coins per day even if you used to get that regularly. I get that Niantic wants gyms to be more contested, and I agree, but it shouldn't come at the cost of reasonable coin earnings considering the premium value.

100 coins a day means you can do an extra raid or 3 incubators every two days. 100 coins are worth 67 cents. It's not that big a deal if people can get coins.
It seems unnecessarily hard to get them in this new system. I think they should multiply all the coin rewards by 5.

100 coins is OP for sure if you're not spoofing, but as a player, 100 coins doesn't get you very far. You need half of that again for a single incubator, which only gives you three hatches. 100 coins is what your minimum aim should be if anything, and this current system makes 100 coins a pipe dream.

>>32842257
They are trying to prevent you collecting your 100 everyday with no work by holding 10 gyms for a month at a 10 with 10 Blisseys. It is anti-fun and doesn't encourage gym battling. I think they should probably add an immediate reward but I see where they were coming from. With the new system as motivation goes down it encourages battling and makes the gyms less stale.

It would be better if the coins came in every hour and maybe you got one on placing.
You have to make achieving the max per day attainable to your hard core players or the whole system is just demoralizing. Yeah, you could collect 100 on any given day doing no work before, but it did require some work to build and maintain a core of stable gyms. I know that I was ALWAYS on the lookout and trying to take gyms.
Maybe bring it back a little, and I think the berry system does that. But having to feed each of your defenders even every day, muchtheless seemingly multiple times per day is too much.
And, as mentioned, there seems to be very little drive to obtain higher powered defenders. This would be a problem, but making better defenders decay faster seems insane.

Who the fuck is writing all these fucking novels?

>>32842257
It was easy to love the old gym system if you were one of the people sitting on top of longstanding stagnant gyms and collecting 100 coins and 5k stardust every 24 hours without any real effort. The new system instead encourages active involvement and a more dynamic gym environment. The consequence of this is that it is not as easy for certain players such as yourself to collect the max coins per day compared to how things used to be. However for the rest of the players these new changes make it much more possible for them to become involved in gyms at all compared to before. And I am not just talking about "low levels and casuals." I am level 32 and already know I will be able to be more active in more gyms in my neighborhood because I won't have to schedule out a half hour time frame just to take 1 gym down and hold it for <24 hours.

I'm guessing the suggestions you gave were before you understood how the new system works since they do indeed make 1 coin per hour and feeding berrys also can give you free candies of strong pokemon. Adding one more coin for adding a pokemon is a small but nice change.
I am sorry you feel you have lost one of the things you most loved about the game. I am wondering what you think your original motivation to be active in the gym system was? Was it just for the coins/stardust? Was it to paint your neighborhood red? Was it to show off your strong pokemon? Or was it something else? Perhaps it would be wise to reflect on this. Then you can see if this new system still allows you to pursue that, even if it will require a bit more effort on your part.

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>>32842281
Those "another day, another 100 coins" were spoofers anyway. I doubt they will now spend money in the game.

And people like me that play legit and never got more than ~30 a day, are just going to quit.

Way to go Hanke.

I've got to say, i absolutely love this new gym system. The main reason, is because it probably won't be quite as worth-it for cheaters (no consistent payoff, wait periods on coins, upkeep cost in berries, etc it just eats too much time).
My town is in an uproar again, tons of people out and visibly playing. ITS BACK BABY!
It is time-consuming to solo a gym, leaving just 1 poke there will make it too easy to take-back, but even just going around with two players flipping gyms makes a HUGE difference. I expect to see gyms change hands often in some places, and areas where there are lots of gyms? It seems like the gyms that are just slightly out of the way are safer.
Without 10 mons at a gym, players are way less shielded. I solo'ed a full gym, 4 of which were "old meta" cp3k+ in about 15 minutes with a mix of 1-2k pokes. It REALLY rewards you for having a diverse attack force and what you put up to defend doesn't seem to matter too much.
This is perfect. Its light and quick like the rest of the game, and it seems to reward you for playing actively rather than preparing then playing passively.

>>32842231
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>>32842291
>imblying I got more than a 10 second attention span

1) Rewards are way, way too low.
I've never been a player who earned 100 coins/day -- I averaged around 50 -- but that income meant that I had something to do (one pack of incubators every three days) when the only things around me were Pidgeys and Sentrets. Yesterday, I spent a lot more time at gyms than I normally would have and earned only 12 coins.
Easy fix: Up gym payouts to one coin per 15 minutes (4/hour). With the 100 coin/day max in place anyway, this isn't a lot.
2) The time investment to take a gym doesn't match the rewards
It's OK that a gym takes 20-30 minutes to take down. It's not OK that you don't get anything for it. I only earned those coins because someone else on my team already took the gym over. That is, my 30-min time investment in taking down a gym netted me zero coins, but my few minute drive-by of two other gyms got me the 12 coins.
Easy fix: Give 5 coins for putting a Pokemon a gym, limit one per gym per day, if you do so within 10 minutes of it changing hands.
3) It doesn't look like your defender choice matters much
Five losses and your defender goes home. That's true if an attacker uses three Pokemon and takes 90 seconds to win a battle or if it's a 10-second rout. (It gets worse, apparently, if the defender is 3000CP+, but let's ignore that for now.) That's bad game design, plain and simple, but it's probably very hard to fix. Instead, we need to be incentivized to defend gyms as much as possible. And I think the way to do that -- short-term at least -- is to give bonuses for defending your home turf.
Easy incentive changes: Give bonuses for gym badge levels. If you have a Bronze badge for the gym, make it one coin per 12 minutes (5/hr). Silver, one per 10 (6/hr). Gold, one per 7.5 (8/hr).
4) Stardust rewards are gone
You used to get 500 stardust with your 10 coins. You now don't.
Easy fix: For every coin earned, also give 50 stardust.

Yes, raids will be great, but they'll likely be rare and inconsistent. And you'll only be fighting one super-mon. I think a more consistent PVE system in addition to raids would be huge for players outnumbered by rival teams. Enter Team Rocket.
For those who never played ToonTown, it was a Disney MMO that was largely focused on cooperative PVE combat. One of the main activities was taking down "factories": bad guy headquarters with multiple tiers of enemies until you beat the boss at the end. Just like the gym system in the main series Pokemon games, only much more common, randomly encountered, and cooperative.
I think this style of cooperative PVE combat would be a major addition to PoGo that would be great for everyone. Not super-mon focused like raids, but instead Team Rocket might take over gyms and hold the Pokemon hostage, or encounters might spawn in pseudo-random locations instead of gyms. Fight together against tiered teams of strong Pokemon, rather than one super-mon. There could be coin bounties for defeating Team Rocket instead of getting coins through gyms, which I think should be more about training and bragging rights than profit.
This wouldn't wipe away the team imbalance issue, but I think Niantic could play with this idea in any number of ways. Thoughts?

>>32842300
>imblying

shut up spurdo

>>32842305
It does seem a cool idea, and a common enemy (other than raid bosses) would be something cool to have. It would also add a bit more of a story element to the game in the same way that the professor seemingly vanished after he gave you your starter.
I'd suggest that for the sake of keeping it a little more kid friendly, Team Rocket are "taking over the gym to keep all the coins for themselves" rather than taking hostages. The end result is the same, we kick them out.. but hostage taking is probably a little heavy handed for a game played by a lot of kids (and plenty of adults too of course)

I disagree that raids will be rare at all. I mean, there's an entire tab for it on the radar so there will likely be multiple at any given time. Regardless, this sort of cooperative PvE does sound fun so maybe they could implement something like this somere along the road. I have the opposite view on the rewards tho. I think rewards sgould be ment for more competative play and exluded fromthe more casual gamplay.

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>>32842310
No u shudup

>>32842311
"Hostage" might be a bit much. It could be interesting though if you have to "free" the Pokemon that are "trapped", or whatever PG terminology would be best. How about when you defeat TR, you get candy for whatever Pokemon were in the gym when TR took over?
Or, the Pokemon could just "flee" when TR takes over and you get simple coin bounties for retaking the gym.

True, I guess I just want the raids to be at least somewhat uncommon. Rare pokemon aren't rare at all, and it kinda bums me out.
Regarding the rewards, I definitely think that gym combat should get you the rewards that directly contribute to game progress (i.e. candy, dust, evolution items, berries, etc.), I just think having specifically coin bounties for TR encounters would be better than 1 coin/hr in gyms, which nobody likes.

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>>32842315
Raids will be common but that doesn't mean that all raids will involve rare pokemon. I think I saw a post tonight about a raid against a magikarp. It seems that rares will remain rare even with raids, just a little bit less so.
With rewards, I still think that coins should be exclusive to gym combat but the distribution could definitely use improvement. I think once the hype dies down and turnover settles to a stable level then it will distribute things more fairly. Even so, they could have done better to distribute them more evenly while still keeping them rather scarce overall.

It's certainly an interesting idea, I can't help thinking it might work better as a purely PvE idea at Pokestops themselves as a "mini-raid" just to keep things interesting.
Team Rocket have taken over this pokestop to steal all the items for themselves, beat a couple of pokemon (maybe strengthed up versions of currently spawning nearby ones? or just some team rocket staples: koffing, weezing, ekans, meowth, etc) to kick them out and you can start getting items from it again, along with rewards for beating them of course which could be some candy and the "stolen" items (ie.e some extra drops from that pokestop).
Something which a single player could do on their own fairly easily if necessary but scale up the difficulty based on player footfall/traffic around that stop recently.

>>32842311
>you can't tell kids that pokemon were taken hostage

what the actual fuck, we played that bandits took sb hostage as kids you pussy

Someone is copying all this shit from Reddit.

With all the new gym changes it would be great if we could click on an enemy gym or our profile, hit "Searching for fellow teammates" and find some help from your team, or at least message teammates when you see them in a friendly gym.
As someone on the minority team who still finds friendly gyms every once in awhile it'd be great to actually have a way to communicate with them in game to coordinate gym battling. I know the raids will help but i think this would be a more sure-fire way to actually help the average solo player.

I would love a system to chat with others, and to add "friends" so I can send a message to them for raids or help with a gym.. moreover, I'm one of the few team instinct here, where the majority is Mystic.. so a way to group with other Instinct would help a lot! I.e. I have a gym I can reach from my house, but I'm defending (or conquering) all by myself.. so, imagine if I could send a message to some friend like "hey, I got the gym, hurry up and place your Pokémon here.. "

I think some twat is just spamming leddit posts here. It is nice to know that the Niantic apologists over there are burying them for this too but can you please stop you utter knobhead?

>>32842314
finally, sameone on my level to debate itt


my pokemon fuck your pokemon bc ur shit trainer Asg!

Hey guys, not sure how often suggestions are implemented that are suggested here but figured it was worth a shot.
Pretty much as it says in the title. Would be a really useful addition speaking for myself at least as quite a few "good" pokestops have become gyms in my area, and it would certainly improve what can sometimes be quite a cluttered nearby sightings page. Remains to be seen for me but if gyms now have increased spawn rate because of the presence of a stop (can't confirm yet but did notice increased spawns yesterday around certain gyms in my local area) then I think this could be especially important. I think we already have an issue with there often being pokemon we would find rare or desirable nearby but having no clue because there are so many stops on our sightings page, and that pokemon is not on a stop and with some stops becoming gyms and losing the ability to appear on sigjtings, this is only going to get worse unless gyms are worked into sightings now.
Anyway, sorry for the ramble!!

>>32842330
My pokyman stronk and my vaporeon can kill your dad

I saw a weird thing this morning, and made screenshots, too. It was also Dragonite who had the least CP/motivation among the defenders even if it was not the first pokemon deployed in the gym. The oldest defenders were Gyarados and Rhydon. Dragonite was third oldest. Possible scenarios are: The gym was attacked and at least the first 3 oldest defenders' motivation level went down significantly, and some trainers (probably their owners) fed Rhydon and Gyarados, but not Dragonite. The last two mons (Vaporeon and Snorlax) still had high motiv level - either they were not attacked -- or attacked but lost little motiv -- or lost significant motiv but were fed, too. My guess is that pokemons who have double weakness (and high CP too) lose so much motiv when attacked in gyms. Will try to test this tonight when we go gym hunting.

>>32842339
The only thing worth spending time on in my opinion is feeding berries to Pokemon in order to have a chance at receiving one of their candies.
Everything else seems silly to me. There comes a point at which the size of the breadcrumbs being dropped makes eating ants more appealing. I'd rather just use QuickThoughts at this point. It's more efficient and reliable than spending hours to potentially get single-digit coins - or even zero coins.

Friendly - place something if possible, feed everything berries regardless. I'll berry a full ally gym even if I'm not in it simply because by tomorrow (or the day after) it'll probably have a spot open/be taken by an opposing team.
Opposing - attack the lineup, if someone appears to be feeding berries, I change to focusing on 1 at a time so their berries cause me less hassle. Better to fight 1 pokemon being healed (they can only use so many on 1) than 6 (you give them more time in between each berry).

>>32842337
bud my dad is ded lol

ur faporeon it shit

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lol

>>32842110
I had a mon in for 13 hours in a bronze gym and got 13 coins

>>32842305
I feel like the team gym system doesn't work anymore so I'll probably soon stop investing time in that. But the boss raids indeed seem like a lot of fun and actually worth to spend time on.

>>32842342
My vaporean will raep your mom :DDDD

Can I get a tl:dr on the new update?

>>32842356
Spoofies win again.

>>32842352
ur faporeon has zero benis bc my jolteon ate it yesterday RIP

it gannod raep

i have 20 gyms now

-9x blissey
-6x snorlax
-1x espeon
-1x slowbro
-1x muk
-2x vaporeon

did i do good? took me about 4 hours by car

>>32842374
>4 hours
>by car

kek. It took me 2 hours to take 13 by walking

>>32842384
but are your gym s even gonba last a day? i have the same gyms as i hD B$ the update and som of them lasted from october up til now

>>32842402
it was 10 hours ago, right now I have 9, i'll take 11 more when i get out of my work, and that's area when i held 16 stable gyms before the rework

>Gamepress not updating their defenders list

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>no criticism allowed

The absolute state of the Silph Road

>>32842374
>4 hours by car

Enjoy your 50 cents worth of rewards in the next couple of hours. Hope it was worth the trip.

>>32842408
I mean they take months to do it after a change

>>32842414
the kind of weak omega male that plays a pokemon game seriously like nuck is absolutely terrified of controversy and conflict

it's why they always end up as sterile safe spaces that are creepily positive like a mormon and they always will

>>32841822
So what is my motivation to feed my teams pokemon, when the gym is full, also will my pokemon continue to collect coins if it runs out of motivation on a gym that no one attacks?

>>32842479
if you feed a chansey or bliss in a gym, you will get a chansey candy sometimes

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Lmao just found this
Excellent work

So how do gym levels and points work?

>>32842554
they just LIVE

>>32842554
who fucken cares

>>32842554
I fucked your mom.

GYMS ARE DOWN BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>32842540
had the exact same description on a gym today

does anyone know latin??

>>32842578
Were you born yesterday?

Do you need to be level 30+ to join raids? I'm 28lvl and keeps saying i'm too low level for raiding.

>>32842578
kek

>>32842585
35

Is anyone else getting an error when trying to feed Pokémon in gyms?

RAIDS ARE LIVE BOYS

>>32842604
yeah, like 90% of the time

>>32842609
Wtf is up with that? I feed 2 gyms this morning perfectly fine, the other two keep saying error

>>32841836
I think it decays down to 10 or 20% and comes back when someone kills it

I solved the meta boys, here's who to put in your local gyms:
>whatever shitmons you feel like

>>32842267
Somebody is copy pasting this from a thread on Reddit

>I fed my flareon some cummies
>it says she's full
>still not at full heart

>>Lvl 35 for raids

>no subject
>title is the same as the last thread

Lads, is it really that hard? Come on.

Holy fuck, fighting Maxed ditto is NOT fun.

>gyms before update
>roughly equal of mystic and valor
>gyms after update
>all instinct
What the fuck happened?

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So, I've got a question, but it might be a very dumb one.

There seems to be a phenomenon in my town going on and oddly enough, it's picture related.

There seems to be a quantity of "sad" Dragonites, if you will around town. I noticed this because my brother's Dragonite just so happens to be "sad" too. It's kinda odd to explain it, but they all seem to have their motivation slowly but surely wilting away. My brother's Dragonite happens to be above 3000+ so I thought it was CP related, but it also happened to other Dragonites. I jokingly said his had a minor depression but now I'm not so sure. My Blissey (2600cp) remains blissful and requires very little caring and everyone else in the gym we're at is just about the same, except Dragonite of course.

Is this something that only occurs in high level CP pokemon that brings their motivation down quicker than usual or is it a occurrence that can affect any pokemon?

>>32842301
You get stardust easily with feeding mons.
also you get TMs as rewards in GOLD gyms

This update is focused not on GET ALL THE GYMS. It is focused on polishing one.

>>32842681
Mystic and Valor are mostly normalfags while Instinct has a diehard autistic core. They'll fight gyms over and over again no matter what time of the day or weather.

>>32842683
some thought that its mayabe bcause it has a 4x weakness.

but i noticed that too. The other mons are all full, but i had to feed my vaporeon twice alrady, though no one fought it before.

>>32842683
Yeah now that you mention I've mostly encountered unmotivated Dragonites. Guess they don't like the new gym system, because they used to be right at the top until Tyranitar came.

>>32842689

How much CP does your Vaporeon have? It might be related to CP. I thought I was going crazy, but if what you're telling is true, it's not species related (although that'd be kinda odd to be true).

I've noticed a lot of my gyms are being taken care of by my anon teammates, but dragonite and vaporeon always get skipped. I assume it's so the feeders can eventually put their own in because they're almost exclusively being starved. Nice.

>>32842683
i think some people just put their dragonite in a gym because they have a high attack and cost a lot of potions, so it will be the first to be attacked. then when an enemy player comes along in the mood for fighting just 2-3 mons, it will decrease the dragonite's motivation first before he gets bored and moves on, not even touching the last 2-3 mons in the gym

>>32842700
My Meerana (Vaporeon) has 1791, i havent relly pushed hr since i got her back last year.

>>32842684
>you get TMs as rewards in GOLD gyms
proof? afaik TMs are only rewarded for winning a raid battle

technically you can still shave but you'd have to feed everybody but 1 person's pokemon and lose a ton of resources

>>32842710
No, you just have to kill the bottom Pokémon. No need to waste resources

As a mostly solo player only now getting into gymming, why the fuck is healing/reviving so awful.

>>32842718
so that's why dragonites are so low on motivation. mostly cheaters with alt accounts

How long till they fix most of the gym problems?

>>32841861
>West Sussex

The meta is just tanks below 3k

>>32842706

So it doesn't have much CP. But I can understand that sentiment too, I'm in no hurry to power up my mons either (there's only so much Stardust). My strongest Vaporeon named Queen is currently sitting around at 2600cp. Heck, my strongest mons are sitting around at that CP level. Blissey (Fluffy) might be the first ever to break into 2700.

>>32842705
>>32842710
>>32842718

Oh, that explains it. And here I thought it was some odd occurrence. Although now I can't shave off the thought of depressive Dragonites.

>>32842741
>anyone below 3k
>not just instalocking dps

>>32842060
Yo that is a sicc fucking view

Please let's swap save me from this hell that is England

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>>32842747
I remember dragonite dad

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Only made 20, I predict I'll end up with 30 bare minimum 10 a day, so, nothing changes for me.

But I definitely like this system more.

>>32841839
>Hiding eyes
I never understood this

>>32842793
its one of our oldest memes

but psst it's actually a reddit meme that we stole, don't tell anybody lol

Is anyone elses trainer club account down? I can't log in because it "can't authenticate"

>>32842801
the google account of my gf is down too.

>>32842807
>gf
cuck

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This is annoying.

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This wouldn't be 1000 straight right?

>>32842820
it needs to be 1000 straight

>Walkfags want it to be harder for spooferfags
>Freefags want it to be harder for whalefags
>Casualfags want it to be harder for hardcorefags
>Update makes it harder for everyone
>FUCK YOU HANKE IT WAS SUPPOSED BE EASIER FOR ME AND ONLY ME REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32842819
that only happens if you've been caught cheating

>>32842826
it's a little bit harder for cheaters and people who multiaccount and way fucking harder for everybody else

what kind of retard are you that making the game less rewarding for honest players and about the same for cheaters isn't a bad move

>>32842820
>Defend Gyms...
I'm going to say it is combined.
>>32842828
Wrong. The feeding system is just broken atm

>>32842834
feeding works for me, silph road confirmed it's only spoofies who can't feed

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The gym system is completely fucked now. You can't collect and have to wait for your mon to get kicked out to get coins? Who the fuck came up with this shitty idea? Sure, collecting coins every arbitrary 20 hours didn't make sense either, but this is beyond retarded. Did they fucking test this shit and think it through? Fucking hell Niantic. Give the Pokemon IP to a competent mobile game company FUUUUUUU

>>32842840
Silph road is wrong. I've gotten the error message in 2/5 gyms I've tried to feed. I've never spoofed. The system is broken.

>>32842820
I might be able to do that...there's this one gym which only a few of my team know about and is ignored by everyone else because it's pretty hidden. Before this update I had a charizard there for a few months.

Still pretty lame medal being pretty impossible to succeed for many. Also hardly any coins or stardust being rewarded for something like that. Fucking Hanke.

>>32842853
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/6hf2mj/trainers_caught_cheating_may_no_longer_feed_th/

>>32842641
>she

you can feed only some (10 i think) berries to a mon a time

>>32842681
WE ARE THE STORM

>>32842127
It hasn't even been 100 hours. You couldn't even possibly collect the max coins yet, and you're already blaming your team.

>>32842860
Kek'd again

>>32842860
you deserve this (you) for that. gg anon

>>32842867
I currently have 18 hours in one gym, 18 hours in another gym, 16 hours in a third gym, and 10 hours in a 4th and I'm not even that good. A sufficiently motivated person could have easily accrued +100 hours by now.

>>32842860
lol

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>>32842840
>>32842834
>>32842828
I was trying to battle and it was being a bitch. Haven't had any issues feeding (yet).

>>32842687
Instinct was voted most likely to die while playing. Yellows are fucking insane. They'll go out in thunderstorms at 1AM. The fact that they're mostly solofags on an underdog team drives them to take Gyms even though they know they'll be the only Yellow in the Gym till it dies, if only to spite the carfag and spoofie Valors and Mystics.

Don't mind the new fighting system
It means gyms with one Pokemon take longer to take down, but the ones with max Pokemon take less time than before
A lot more balanced than the old gyms either lasting 2 minutes or 2 months because they were far too easy to take down or not worth the time

Still not a fan of the motivation system, think it should be either a lot slower or have a cap on the decrease rate, but whatever it's not the end of the world

Coin collection is the worst, fucking jews

>>32842897
>They'll go out in thunderstorms at 1AM.
That's literally what they did yesterday in my hometown when there was a thunderstorm the moment the gyms opened again. There's no way I can compete with them but I'll still try with the gym closest to my home.

Few of them here are organized though and carfag in groups.

>>32842907
You live in southeast US? This tropical storm fuckin sucks.

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I'm sorry what the fuck is this

>>32842897
I have to admit, you're not wrong. I play Instinct because Zapdos was my fav legendary when I was a kid and I noticed an extreme toxic attitude from most Valor players in my area from the start. Yellow is assuredly the underdog team here, too, but we work in groups rather than solo.

>>32842020
Yes, it seems like it's 1coin/hour. My dragonite held the gym for 13h09min before getting kicked out back to me. I got 13 coins for the effort.

Due to the aforementioned lag issues, I only got the coins the second time I logged in.

Got myself a new lanturn today that spawned.

CP: 87

Thanks for nothing, at least it...

IV: 73,3%

Well at least it has...

Watergun/Hydropump (Like my highest one)


HANKEEEEEEEE

That faggot FsuAtl spoofed to Nick & Reversal's area and joined Reversals raid lmao

https://youtu.be/pGFPe7xstCs?t=3m

(3:00)

>>32842913
looks like an error anon

>>32842913
Did it load all the way up, say 'GO' and then error out?
Cus that's what happened to me
>>32842884
>>32842819

>>32842687
>Valor
Ultra-normalfag, most of them died off when the hype died down. Casuals picked them because Moltres was always seen as the strongest of the three birds because it was the final one and made of fire (even though it's probably the worst)
>Mystic
Most autistic and most likely to spoof when there's no reason to
>Instinct
Extremely aggressive and will probably spoof if you piss them off since they feel justified to do so as the underdog. Probably the least likely to stop playing because they are constantly mad and fucking hate the other teams, quitting would be letting them win

I've seen Instinct completely take over a Mystic stronghold over like 6 months of progress because they are so territorial. Mystic having more players in turn lose more as time goes on, and Instinct just stayed as strong as ever and pushed their shit in

>>32842921
Cunt

I would have taken that gym but then it just pops up with an error

Fuck you

>>32842719
you can revive/heal up to three mons at once, with the same kind of potion at least.

>>32842923
Yes senpai

>>32842907
They say thunderstorms are a sign of Zapdos' arrival. He carries Instinctfags on his back, taking Gyms, so that by the time the storm has left the town will have been painted yellow.

>>32842912
Nah West-Europe but we got a bit of heat here too, which occasionally causes some lightning to show up for a moment. Nothing as dramatic as what you guys go through more often.

>>32842040
Doesn't work kek, I tried

Level 30 here. Personally, I'm loving the gym update. It's better seeing each mon's meter indicating what it will take to push them out than to see something like "30000000/30000000". Plus the animation at the beginning is glorious and it runs a lot smoother for me. Finally when I want to dodge, it dodges. Can't wait for raids.

>>32842937
Damn that must be it. Would be nice if Articuno blesses me in winter, causing a snowstorm big enough to kill any carfag.

>>32842033
new system with 1 coin per half hour defended, minimum 1 coin received would be awesome.

God I'm so fucking mad

That gym is rightfully mine
Fuck you hanke

J U S T


https://youtu.be/RcwT8LOOOsk

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>>32842957
Forgot pic

>>32842959
I cant believe all these pewdiepie letsplayers have such huge followings

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>all my 3k+ Pokémon are now useless
>won't be able to buy a bag update or an incubator without paying real money

Brilliant.

>>32842987
Why are they useless?

Hey boy, I love having my Gyms taken at 50 minutes of defending after I spent 15 grinding down the full Valor/Mystic Gym and receive not even a single coin. Thanks, Hanke.

>>32842987
this update is the rise of the shitmon

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>>32841822

How many coins did you guys rack up from gyms before the gym change? I got 14500. Just spent 2000 on the bag upgrade.

>tfw no more 100 coins a day
>tfw no more 5000 stardust a day

>>32843023
yea anon but you can get 20 stardust for feeding a poke a berry lol

Why are you mad? With the new update you can collect 420 coins in 21 hours instead of 100.

>>32843041
with the new update you can collect 100 in 21 hours

>>32843014
The motivation drain is ridiculous for my high CP Pokémon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/6iyrcm/who_is_behind_all_those_posts_praising_niantic/

Who was the nigger that stole our image ?

>>32841910
I think he means Dust, not candies, but that would be sick, throw a Mareep in asap

>>32843023
>the bag upgrade
>the

Is there a new cap on bag items?

>>32843097
1500

42.01232418,-87.96020767
28485 CP Zard Raid - Expires in 32 minutes from this post

>>32843106
There are raids???

>>32843109
IF youre lvl 35

Does Niantic even play their own game? How did they think anyone would like this update? All it did was make the game shittier for everyone but especially shittier for the solo players on the less dominant teams. All this did was hand gyms to spoofers on a platter and give everyone less coins.

In a year they haven't bothered to add any real features and instead have just made the game shittier to play.

>>32843109
for level 35+

>>32843055
Because people battle them. I live in nowhere and my 2100 vaporeon lost like 20 cp in 8 hours at night.

>>32843109
Only for lvl 35+. Pretty much beta test to work out the kinks.

>>32843119
2100 isn't high, please read the posts you're replying to.

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>>32843072

>Will Hankeposting ever be a thing?

It's been a thing here on /pgg/ for nearly a year. Fuck off Redditfags!

So are Low CP/High Bulk Pokemon like Steelix, Chansey, and Wobbuffet great defenders now?

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>>32843116
>>32843118
I'M SO FUCKING CLOSE

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>>32843072
>>32843134
Cocksuckers are trying to steal our memes. This is cultural appropriation.

>>32843117
The only problem now is the coin gain.

>>32843134
Who the fuck is todd ?

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>be carfag
>Waste gas for 1 coin/hour
Time to walk, faggots ahahah

>>32843138
"Great" is the wrong word. They don't do any better than others. They're just annoying to fight against and have less CP decay (not that this is super important)

Yeah.

>>32843145
The coin gain is the only reason to gym. The battle system is terrible and it's glitchy as fuck. Somehow it's even more glitchy now.

>>32843072
someone make an account and tell him to fuck off

>>32843166
Not your personal army

>>32843072
no one make an account and tell him to fuck off

>>32843177
Yes, Sir.

>Pokestop near house becomes gym
>Me and my brother form a unstoppable duo along with the rest of team Mystic in our territory

>We even provide berries (we got shitton) every so often to the entire crew because the Pokestop is literally steps away from our hourse, thus having a even closer bond to the buds that bother teaming with us

After realizing how the game crosses cheaters' illegal pokemon, it made me respect more my own team because I earned them by being enough of a walkfag and a carfag until now

feels good

>>32843175
>>32843186
just let them steal our memes then you fucking cuck

>gym spawns right next to my apartment
>too low level to deal with the Blissey sitting in it
If it were red, I could at least keep feeding the Pokemon in it constantly.

>>32843194
If you allow them to have them, let it happen then

>>32843198
How can you not deal with a Blissey? What are you, level 12?

>>32843142
Don't get your hopes up. I went up to 35 whilst in the city centre today and there was nothing happening anywhere.

>>32842344
What the fuck is this? I've seen it posted in at least the last 5 PoGo threads I've read.

>>32843219
Can you not read?

>>32843206
26, since I only play on and off. It doesn't help that my strongest Pokemon are three Snorlax who all have Lick.

>>32843142
>You have to be level 35 for raids

Goddamn, it was already enough of a chore to become level 30. I'm not even level 31 yet due to how mind blowing hard it is to accumulate points for the next level.

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>>32843219

>>32843206

I'm not the other anon but it's the fact that it's beater and a fucking tank and hp tank, it'd probably take a couple of my bros that have advantages over it just to even knock it down

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Feels good to be a ruralfag

>>32843242

Spoofing there now to kick you out

>>32843229
Who's this semen demon?

>>32843224
Can you???

>>32843261
Yes, but clearly you either can't read or don't understand how graphs work.

Afternoon, lads.

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I can't believe he's still hanging in there. It's in a different part of town and a local three account user takes up half of like every gym there...

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>>32843272

New Thread

>>32843272

New Thread

>>32843272

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>>32843142
come at me bro

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>>32841849
Stop spoofing and you wont be rubberbanding and the battle button wont go from active to inactive constantly

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>>32841879
So the ones you will transfer from recently caught, would you just throw those in there? I mean my defender pokemon are still pretty good attackers I don't feel like using items after items just to keep up with new gym format. Especially in a city with a 30 to 1 hour turnover rate, I mean Niantic is in fucking SAN FRANCISCO, so I do not know why the fuck they designed that minimum 1 hour or 1 coin per hour bullshit when so many players are flipping gyms like taking a breath of air.

Shit cunt, I'm 28, I can't raid

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>>32841959
I have reported the same 3 multi account spoofer for a month straight AS AN EXPERIMENT, no not waste of time 1 min tops since I created a word doc to copy and paste, and have the screen shots on the my desktop ready to upload, my rountine was to wake up check my email spend 1 minute on Niantic support copy and pasting 3 seperate times to report the 3 accounts since it is only one Player per Report. And guess what happened after a month?

The same multi account spoofer is still active, and with the new gyms up yesterday, guess who was in one of the gyms? Niantic does not care at all, millions of dollars of profit and they can't hire some office scrub to catalog and keep track of cheating reports submitted, they really do not give a fuck. Their office in SF is a bunch of non english speaking japs and foreigners with no common sense. Trust me I have been there and talked to employees coming in and out of the building. They are a fucking joke of a company.

>>32841968
NOt hating but with 10 mons assigned in the old gym system you get 100 coins daily, I thought the max dust was 5k when you collected for your 10 mons? Not 10k dust

>>32842082
What part of he was out for few hours to take gyms and then came home to rest on the couch did you not understand? He is not spoofing from his counch if that is what you meant, except Niantic loves that and doesn't punish even though they are losing money and not gaining any back, spoofers never pay that is why they spoof, if only Niantic understood that jew hanke might bring down the ban wave hammer alot more often.

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>>32842149
you feel that legit players are going to quit play this new version of this gym game very quickly?

Based on social media, youtubem threadsm and blogs, they are quitting and going back to just catching mons for dust after the 1 days lol

I think that is my plan until this gym is fixed, AGAIN, because the same old spoofers still not banned with many accounts still doing the same thing, at least I can throw in shit mons I will probably transfer and not waste items on anyways. But all gyms are maxed out with known spoofers in my city already, day 2. Great lol

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>>32842188
Any real gaming company would have sent some guys to beat up fsuatl based on his youtube channel and always posting videos on new methods of cheating, good think Niantic are a bunch of useless cucks. So many lessons are going to be learned from them by other real gaming companies in the future when they take on a global gaming platform similar to this, Someone has to take one for the team.

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>>32842226
What a bunch of niggers, see what Niantic caused? It caused, no forced us all to cheat and think like niggers after playing legit for so long with their useless gym update...

>>32842344
>that curve should be even STEEPER

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>>32842414
The silph road must like sucking refugee cock as well...

>>32842759
That is one of the saddest things I have read all week...

Not a father, but reading that gave me goosebumps.

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>>32842852
Hopefully Nintendo fires them in the near future and hires a REAL VIDEO GAME company, sure they know bare miniumum augemnetad reality tech, but that does not translate to common sense in designing and expanding videos games, they are no "the Pokemon company," they are the half ass non videogame company half assing their way through the year pretending they know videosgames and the history of video games...

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>>32842907
>>32842897

I went out at 103 degress fahrenheit once the gyms opened yestday lol only to realize continually participating in the new gym meta is simply not worth it... I can say a millions things abo0ut Niantic and this game that has been said before but I wont, the new gym system is simply not worth the effort, and since is based on feeding berry motivations it is even more effort for such little reward... didn't they think of this before they dropped the update?

>>32842920
We need to dox fsuatl and go to his house and fucking punch him in his witch nose pussy white nigger wannabe face!

> be valor
> all gyms around me are fully stacked Instinct Gyms
> they keep getting fed
What do I do?

Why is Niantic so terrible?

REALLY THEY LOWERED THE LEVEL TO 31.

I SPENT SO LONG GETTING JUST TO 30.

FUUUUUUCK.

>>32841861
1/4rd?

My Aerodactyl came back after being in a gym for like 2 hourse with 11 coins. Did they up the amount?

Is tutu down for anyone else?

>>32842937
>They say thunderstorms are a sign of Zapdos' arrival
I-I want to believe anon..

>>32842291
Holy shit man write a fucking novel why don't you