Pokemon Fanfiction General and Writethread

>>32555825
>implying there's any contest, implying that she didn't blow me out of the water with the warning shot
I'm just saying that one need not suffer shenanigans, and there's still opportunity to receive abundant applause. Well, it sounds like applause.

Plus, it would break that "trend," which may be either a sign of great coherence or a commanding predilection.

>>32555825
>>32557234
I'm just glad I can even be called competition!

>TotT
That depends greatly. I tend to follow specific series or authors over genres and settings; the genres those have fallen under vary dramatically. As for WRITING, my current OC project is fantasy, but I have a scifi one that's been tumbling around my project-space for far longer. And then of course the stuff I write here, which is mostly just drama.

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Here's to the death of romance! At least in the majority of the fanfic community

>>32557544
>death of romance
Elaborate. Did the majority get tired of romance genre or something?

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From last thread while we were in page 10, bump-limit limbo.

Chapter 22 "Butterfree Effect" SFW series

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10121590/22/Gift-of-the-Protector-Radiant-Heart

TotT
I love my sci-fi mixed with fantasy. Tend to write about these two types of genre the most because of an interest I have in their propensity to work together in a story.

As for settings, I've been crafting a new fiction that takes place in a rural environment, contrasting with my usual urban and high-tech landscapes. The reason for this is to focus more on trainers going about their daily lives out in the dangerous frontier along with their Pokemon; exploring a place where technology is still more of a hobby rather than a way of life. It's that sweet bit of simpleness and slice of life I would like to write about for Pokemon. Already have seven chapters drafted so I'm rolling with it, no loafing here. Need to finish Protector's epilogue first however. Close to it.

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>>32557567
It's not that the majority have gotten tired of writing romance, they just seem to have gotten tired of putting effort into it. Most "romance" in the FF community ends up being short sex stories hardly any emotion at all. The other large portion of them seem to be stories that contain romance on some level, but usually as a subplot to add spice to some more important, over-arching plot. These ones can start out pretty strong, but usually end up either putting the romance plot on the back-burner, or concluding the romance plot halfway through the story, causing an abrupt stop to the flow.
My point is that there are very, very few people left that seem to be willing, and able, to write pure, old fashioned romance plots. I just want to see some nice dialogue, character development, and emotion for once.

Sorry about that. But maybe a romance would be more like a sentimental and feeling work.

>>32556943

"What setting/genre do you prefer reading/writing about"

So glad you asked, here's my ffnet genre tier list:

S-tier: Angst, Drama, Sci-Fi
A-tier: Adventure, Fantasy, Crime, Hurt/Comfort, Supernatural, Suspense
C-tier: Family, Friendship, Tragedy, Horror, Mystery, Western
F-tier: Humor, Romance, Spiritual, Poetry, Parody

Disclaimer- this list does not imply that any story containing humor or romance is automatically worse in my eyes, or that any level of angst or drama instantly makes a story better. Rather, it's that from my experiences reading or skimming through thousands of fanfics I've found some very strong patterns between what authors tend to LABEL their stories as and the types/structures of stories included. For instance, stories with the romance label tend to lose my interest quickly because the vast majority of them are generic, predictable anime ship-fics or shameless smut that lacks any sort of thought provoking or original plot, not because romance itself is a bad genre. As far as I see it, most fanfic authors use the genre label in the same way they often deliberately frame story summaries- with the primary purpose of advertising their work to potential readers rather than to help accurately categorize their work.

>>32558271
Lying?

>TotT
I tend to rank romance highly-- not on purpose, probably from some of the weird, freudian stuff I didn't get to do in high school. The facets and interpretation of a relationship are highly interesting to me in both writing and reading. And you know, cute shit and all that. Had I any balls I'd commission some good Astral Lilith x Corrin (M) art, because people reading fanfiction is just a myth and I can't get the ship across myself. Fish dragons are friends.

Other than that, I'm a worldbuilder, and worldbuilders live in settings that evolve from fantasy upward into sci-fi. Not that I've actually done a sci-fi yet, but that's what tends to happen eventually.

>>32557544
I'm trying!

>>32558471
>freudian stuff
oedipal? cigars? cocaine?

>>32556943
I wrote a lot if romance and humor. A lot. Then it shifted to character study.

Now, most of it is a blend of mystery, adventure, and drama. Romantic elements are basically completely relegated to existing relationships.

I might end up pushing into something else eventually too. Maybe Western. Maybe not. Ignace and Charles go west.

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>>32558471
Gambate!

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>>32558488
Nah, just run-of-the-mill no-dad faggotry.

>>32558510
Wave Miracle Lights pls, I'm going in dry.

>>32558408

I wouldn't call it lying so much as having a very single-minded view on the genres that actually make their stories tick. For instance, a Ash/Misty shipping story may actually only have one or two chapters at the very end with romantic scenes in it, while the rest of the story is a murder drama that builds up over many many chapters to that final moment- but the author is ALWAYS going to put down Romance as the primary genre because that is what authors are convinced people reading ship-fics want to see.

>>32558595
>the author is ALWAYS going to put down Romance as the primary genre because that is what
causes their stories to be given a chance by readers scrolling downward.

There's no denying that strategic tags/genres bring the views, and what good is a story that never had a chance because it was labeled unattractively?

>>32556943
>ToTT
I like reading stories that give some good focus to broad exploration of aspects of their setting or characters, and stories with a plot but that don't shy from actually having the slice of life everyday life go about: basically the kind of "wake up, go to school, save the world" story where the character actually has to go to school or buy bread and milk on the way back home.

Am not too fond for stuff like war, crime or angst in the fanfiction or literature general field partly because I prefer them in other mediums, like movies, where I only have to dedicate a short time and attention span to explore a facet of the world which, simply put, competes with just zapping channels up to the next news station.

As for what I like to write, character-focused stories is where I find myself having the most fun and easier inspiration. It seems that I also apparently do comedy fine, but the truth is I've never actually *tried* to write comedy. It just happens (and I'm not even sure when).

There's also that as a worldbuilder, I like writing (and talking) about the broad strokes of the setting, the inspirations I have or the tools I like to use. But that's almost two levels more meta.

>>32557639
>scifi mixed with fantasy
Wait, like in sci-fantasy or not exactly?

>>32558933
>Story has Pokemon
>Story has Romance
>Romance is between humans
???
Profit!

>>32559078
When a story includes a scientific fiction, such as a possible future or high-tech device as well as something that is clearly impossible no matter how plausible the author makes it sound, then it is given the label "science fantasy".

For this reason, Pokemon as a fandom lends itself well to science fantasy because it is situated in a place where the amazing powers of Pokemon are truly world-altering.

Consider the lore of Mewtwo. Scientists created the ultimate death machine, but forgot to give it a heart. That's a basic sci-fi trope that has been around the block a few times. How can an author distinguish this from the "study of genetics has gone too far" realm of science fiction? It's very possible to explain why Mewtwo was never given a chance to be compassionate because it was manufactured by science, which is indeed possible given enough time, money, know-how, etc. But then consider the Pokemon's godly psychic powers, those are truly in the realm of fantasy.

Likewise, the Pokeball itself is a prime example of technology that is impossible based on the laws of physics. However if an author wishes to take the time and explain the reasoning for how the technology works, then it is less fantastic in a sense, yet not by definition because at the end of the day you're still doing something that by our current understanding of the universe should be impossible.

That's why I prefer a sliding scale approach as the metric for sci-fi and sci-fantasy. The less "wow" there is, the more sci-fi. Both are fun to read and even more entertaining to write.

>>32559369
Huh i never actually looked at Sci-Fantasy like that before. neat.
When i think of sci fantasy, its something based around sci fi, but without humans. Like lizardmen or grays, ect. Things that are not even based around reality yet

>>32559369
>Profit!
I've heard that it works for Nora Roberts.

>>32556943
i think the link to the catalogue is expired

>>32560228
It works just fine for me

A reminder for all authors that made stuff here to submit their work into the catalog to increase the amount of stuff it has
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdBrvUbK_pBmFu5kbOzBqhmYYOJLQvKhMp031UtsoQpWXbmjw/viewform?c=0&w=1

>>32562056
>to submit their work into the catalog
What should I do to update information on my fics in the catalog? Resubmit entry with the same name?

>>32556943
>no recap
Let's fix that

Fic recap:

Cobalt returns and remade his Just Friends fic. Last I remember it involved a trainer turning down his Zoroark's advances towards him, but seems like it has more chapters now. NSFW(?)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9011176/1/Just-Friends

An anon makes a guide fic of Pokemon for newbies. SFW
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i6kt7ed4Rm2jbAGmC0LL4FKLcf34dTf7ruG3IJCHhV8/edit?usp=sharing

Mimiga makes a fic about a man and a Frillish doing frillish stuff. NSFW
http://archiveofourown.org/works/10884126

An anon makes a fic in spanish. Can't read it, but maybe someone who knows the language can. Rating unknown, so take caution.
https://pastebin.com/rGRazvyG


Updated Fics:

Solar's Gift of the Protector chapter 21
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10121590/21/Gift-of-the-Protector-Radiant-Heart

Trapsingexodus's Errant's Hearth Chapter 4
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12140893/4/The-Errant-s-Hearth

Unown's Fledglings chapter 52
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11084689/52/Fledglings

As always, link any missing new/uploaded fics here.
>>32562979
probably. Try specifying to the guy running the booru to update the link

I actually tried a slow and methodical approach to a romance. Reviewers started to complain it was taking too long and that they wanted to see a quicker development. The story did decently well, but not what I hoped.

So, last year I started a very straight forward romance story. Nothing complex at all. I'm not even putting a lot of effort in it. Yet, people seem to love it. It has four times less the amount of words and has been viewed two times less than my slow romance story, yet it has the same amount of favourites and even more followers already.

My point is, sometimes people want to read something simple, instead of complex, developed romances.

>>32564453
>has been viewed two times less
Is that unique viewers, or sum of chapter hits? If so and there are fewer chapters, it may mean more reads.

>sometimes people want to read something simple
Or, they've seen the path that the author is taking times enough not to need to read it again.

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Desolate Seas, Chapter 5 is done!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/8071213/chapters/24364530
I hope the anon who was interested in my work is still around, im not dead yet!

wow

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Here's Chapter 13 of [The Dark Type]: "Mind Over Feather" http://archiveofourown.org/works/9113758/chapters/24369075

Looks like I missed posting an update for an entire thread. I'll try not and let that happen TOO often, at least while I have content to push.

>>32556943
>TotT:
I'm not sure where my preferences lie when it comes to genres of writing.

Reading, I'll always have a soft spot for romances, but with writing, I've gone all over the place, I feel. Though I do have some ambitious goals dealing with the consequences of time travel and trust and betrayal. In any romance I write, I just hope I do it well.

Beep

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>>32571957
ROBOT!

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>>32572018
Page 8 bumperino

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Requesting a story about a lopunny trying (and failing) to attract her trainer's attention, going as far as to becoming a fashion star to try and get him to notice her. Results may vary

Morning

>7 of the last 8 posts are shitposts/bumpposts and the other is /r/.

Loafing writefags indeed. At least I'm doing a little proof-reading this weekend.

>>32576321
Not loafing, just revising.

I curse myself for writing 30k words. Gotta split it up into multiple chapters and along with proofreading.

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>>32576321
No loafing here. Passed along Protector's epilogue to be proofed and in the interim working on that new story with Sneasel, Buizel, and Roselia. I'll still bump the thread though.

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>>32576414
Done with the revising now. Finally posting a chapter after multiple threads pass me by.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/9861455/chapters/24407931
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12359877/5/Donker-Samenleving

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>>32576414
>curse myself for writing 30k words
>1st world problems

>>32556943
THAT POKEMON IS USELESS

>>32578306
>garchomposter

You deserve everything you get

>>32576414
>Not loafing, just revising.
I know that feel. I've gone over most of my current WIP this week and I feel half ready to start feeding pages to the shredder. Hell, it's gotten me so off balance I'm almost considering looking for a beta reader just to hear for certain if it's awful, extra-awful, or full-scale cge-awful.

It doesn't help that I clearly peaked years ago. Opening a text editor feels like picking up a shovel to dig my way out of a hole.

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>>32578816
I don't believe in peaking out, if you've made a good story in the past than you have the capability to make a better one. Accept the fact that it could be shitty, get the opinion of one or two people, and revise. One of my chapters (im not telling you nigga) was so difficult for me to write i had to revise it four times and this is my first time experimenting in writing as it is!
You're just out of your groove.

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Requesting a story about Malva, despite hating Calem's guts for taking out Team Flare, taking an interest in the lad for whatever reason. Whether for an utmost ruse or even friendship/romance is up to author

>>32578816
>clearly peaked years ago
LL was well liked and the only major work you've put out since then was EV, which, while less well received than previous stories, is hardly a big enough sample size to say you've lost your touch.

Up

>>32580014
>hardly a big enough sample size
Recalling the visitors/hits graphs from a couple of threads ago, a big enough sample size is not something I should hold my breath for. Unless I shed my inhibitions and switch into raunchy fetish lemons, of course. And, since this story's changed its apparent motif/plot a few times on me, a lot of the later scene ideas don't really seem to have any purpose except to remind me that they don't need to have a purpose if I pick two of the characters and rub them together until fluids, follows, and favorites squirt out.

>LL was well liked
I set LL and Any Port off to the side because they weren't wholly my ideas; I did all of the writing, but the main casts and initial premises were suggested. I view my arc as C/E (First outing), Waterlogged (Peaked already?), D/P (Sputtering out, but it got read because it had a sprinkle of lemon juice), NGON (Death spiral), E/V (Crash and burn), and here I am limping away with a scorched suitcase fished from the wreckage.

Besides, LL was well liked because "Gardevoir" was in the tags and that tag comes with implications that guarantee readership. "Lucario" and "Blaziken" tags don't hurt, either.

>you've lost your touch.
If I ever had one. I may have just randomly been different enough as a writer to select a topic once or maybe twice that was different enough to be footnoteworthy, and my fifteen minutes are now over. I can be comfortable with that.

>CAPTCHA
>Headroom Jacobs
Suddenly I want to watch a movie that somehow combines Max Headroom and Jacob's Ladder.

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>Since I grow weary of posting soulless bumps.
Let's talk about an elephant in the room, that is to say: violence in the Pokemon fandom.

If you're a writer, how do you handle details in battle for instance? If reading is your preference, do graphical descriptions of combat deter you?

I myself try to make it semi-realistic. Recovery time and injuries that last outside of battle harken back to an era of Pokemon where things like poison would actually kill you if left untreated. I'm not a fan of gore, if it's in a scene I'll force myself to read it so long as the story incorporates said injury in a meaningful way (ie. it's not just brutality for brutality's sake).

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>>32582199
I've been specializing in the mystery dungeon spin offs, so I've tried to keep it on par with how gameplay works. When it comes to describing moves, fainting, and the little gamey details, i've tried to keep it in-lore and have the characters explain it through their point of view rather than a sort of 'player' view.
In terms of violence, i'm all for it. I don't mind reading and writing about it, its just a part of nature sometimes. If it deters people from my writing, well...
I write john, it's what i do.

>>32582199
>writer, how do you handle details in battle
I try to keep details sparse so the action may seem as fast as the reader reads.

>If reading, do graphical descriptions of combat deter you?
Not that I've noticed.

>I try to make it semi-realistic.
I've tried to establish in my stories that League combat is safe in that pokemon are trained to win with measured force. When one pokemon gives another the business, it's the trainers' responsibility to intervene effectively, however that may be accomplished (command, recall, etc.), and to accept any punitive action the League authority applies.

>Recovery time and injuries that last
I've defined healing machine magic to be mostly mechanical in nature: The machine can often put the cellular matter into proper arrangement, but it's up to the body to bond everything securely again. Thus a fractured bone looks "healed," but the union will ache and be fragile until time is given for natural healing to finish the job. Therefore it has difficulty with reluctant-to-heal structures like nerves, which are more apt to reroute than repair. Maggie's eye injury in D/P is an example of this concept: A machine reconstructed her eye but its optic nerve never recovered, so her appearance is normal but she has no peripheral vision on one side. Then I went nuts and wrote for Warden, who was physically whole when recalled but during that process his energy/data pattern was disrupted.

From a sensible writing point of view, the danger of magic healing is that it promotes recklessness, both in trainer commands and actions a pokemon might choose to take: How close to dead can a pokemon be pushed/push itself and still be fixed up? We know that pokemon do die canonically, but it's on the other side of the river of things that the canon media would rather not deal with.

Finally, regarding electronic revitalization…
>This is an Enertron. You get a full night's sleep in a few seconds, but it still leaves you hungry.
;)

>>32582199
>Violence in the Pokémon fandom
Never seen much of it compared to other fandoms, not even with subjects as touchy as who is Ashy boy's tru grul (obviously Gary but come on).

As for writing fights and violence specifically, I more or less go with "the flash is the substance" - what an attack does and looks like does most of the work in depicting how much it hurts or disables an opponent, or what potential effects might it have that can last. This is also because I tend to write oneshots, so I hardly get to deal with subjects such as "muscle memory", "recovery", "therapy" or the like even if I wanted to. That will hopefully change, but not right now.

What I need to do regarding writing battles is to be less verbose about it, too.

>>32582789
>I've tried to establish in my stories that League combat is safe in that pokemon are trained to win with measured force.

This is one thing I've always stood with, I compare the League to our IRL sports competitions. There's Highlander, where there can be only one, and then there's stuff like Roland Garos or olympics sports, and the Pokémon battles we watch on the roads, on gyms and in stadiums should be closer to the latter.

As such, immediate healing is available, "lasting" effects tend to not stick, which is important when you want your competitors to last a number of matches up the ladder without having to wait weeks between each round so as to give everyone regular, fair recovery time.

And hey, we have to have a reason for the referees to actually be around for the battle, right?
>Enertron
...But the world refused to change.

>>32582789
>How close to dead can a pokemon be pushed/push itself and still be fixed up?
Why stop there? I was planning a Porygon thing that would detail crossing that threshold repeatedly in certain senses, though that'd be mostly helped by that specific pokemon's physiology, or lack thereof in some applications.

>>32582940
>Why stop there?
Because you've called dibs.

>>32582225
>>32582789
I've not been one to shy from violence and graphic combat; indeed, ACPC opens along with a throat and a very unfortunate Roserade is aquainted with what his innards look like, and while I sometimes fear some may find it excessive, I think it appropriately frames combat as a truly dangerous thing.

We are outside of Pokemon battles in these instances, where fighting is usually restrained though still quite painful. Instead we have moved into back alley brawls where potions do their best to treat the havoc claws, blades and bullets can inflict. Which is to say not very well, but better than nothing.

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>>32582199
As long as graphical violence is not gratuitous, I'll read most anything that's well written. I think in general though, I prefer for there to be at least some sort of risk to combat.

>>32582940
Back up your Porygon regularly!

>>32582199
I try to be detailed with battles, showing the damage moves do to pokemon and environment but I try not to go too far. When it comes to injuries though, all bets are off. I like showing the aftermath more than the battle itself. Even the victor will not go unscathed, be it a small cut to a broken bone.

Healing is a different ballpark entirely. DS, being set in an age similar to our Industrial Revolution, does not have the luxury of 'magical' healing in the games and so, the gritty, dirty side of the period comes out in medical practice or rather, malpractice. I may not have shown it, but "healing" in DS, is more, surviving with disabilities for the rest of their lives, than actually healing what's been broken or scarred.

>>32582199
I am all for violence and technical imagery, believe me. Part of the way I brand my characters so that they aren't simply their species is through scars (e.g. the slash patch on Panne's chest, and some stuff later wink fucking wink). I'm not frightened of being too brutal at all, and in fact, I usually invite gore and snuff far beyond what most people would consider needlessly edgy-- especially if it's the sudden kind. Bodies are often fragile, and despite that they are ours, there isn't much that separates them from the poultry and beef we prepare for our meals. We can be torn, broken, severed, popped, burned, and all sorts of nasty shit. Just the thought of some of those injuries are enough to make people cringe, but they are very real and natural consequences to something that is no more special than anything else,

I like to write dramatic feelgood mystery dungeon fanfiction and the occasional smut.

I've been bad with linking here lately, but I'm up to my favorite pokemon of this gen, so I might as well drop a link to the latest part of my pokedex series. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6161819/741/Pokedex

Anyone have any recommendations for human on Pokemon romance? I mean stories that aren't just one shot sexy time but have an ongoing developing relationship.

Some interesting stuff here.

>>32586750
The catalog has quite a bit of on both the sfw and nsfw sides.

So while anime fics do get quite some backlash because of the popularity of edgy ash, anyone know of some that are actually entertaining to read and actually makes sense?

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>>32590434
Holy shit I want a fat wingull so much.

Regional form when?

>>32590434
what's underneath diglet, a pot, a piece of dirt?

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>>32590793

>>32591211
A quote like that is rich coming from Grant "THE BLEED" Morrison. His point is understood, but he's also that very adult - and he answers those questions.

Makes for fun reading though.

>>32591211
>Real crabs do sing, but not like in the cartoon because real crabs' mouths are full of water.
>Superman flies using the readers' desire to be saved a hero who's stronger than gravity.
>Eyebeams work by un-seeing a lot of visions at once at something.
>Wayne Industries tires inflate themselves.
These are easy and fun.

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>>32591211
This quote makes me want to explain fictional gadgets such as the Pokeball, Pokecenter medical stations, and PC transfer system in detail considering an entire society of trainers depend on them. Not to mention what would happen/used to happen without these amenities being readily available. The work continues to be "in progress" and that is a good thing for now. Will be worldbuilding a lot this June.

>>32591221
He's acknowledged that he's a hypocrite in an interview too, for a similar point.

>>32591306
No wonder a lot of your fics end up leaving me depressed. Not trying to have a go at ya, I really do love your stuff, but still.

>>32591330
>a lot of your fics end up leaving me depressed.
You're not alone.

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>>32591211
Morrison > Moore

you can't prove me wrong

>>32591211
Taking that message to its logical conclusion, a non-realistic work of fiction can only be as good as its message, and that message must also be directly applicable to reality. Anything non-realistic is by definition not worth caring about, and if you do care too much/at all above a certain age, you are mentally defective.

Basically you shouldn't be in this thread.

>>32591388
>its logical conclusion
Need its conclusion be logical?

>>32591451
What are you even saying?

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>>32591451
this tbf famalam

Not everything needs to be taken to its logical conclusion. Good job literally doing what the image says.

>>32591511
Yes, extrapolating from a real person's documented opinion is literally the same thing as overanalyzing fiction. Those are exactly the same.

>>32590670
>want a fat wingull
For deformed wingulls there's Pleo, I guess.

>>32590793
>underneath diglett
Well, Latias obviously. Diglett alter reality to merge themselves with whatever constitutes the "ground" they're on.

>>32591316
will be worldbuilding a lot this June
Good choice!

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>>32591531

>>32591372
I like both for different reasons. The way they practice their wizardy speaks volumes about them.

>>32591585
is this romeo and juliet?

>>32591585
So you're not only agreeing with the opinion that anyone who cares about worldbuilding details is dumber than a child, you also believe that anyone even thinking about that statement is exactly as bad?

>>32591600
Oh please, the only place that's all coming from is your own ass.

>>32591644
Actually read >>32591211
"Anyone who cares about worldbuilding details is dumber than a child" is literally what it's saying.

>>32591739
'no'

>>32591778
It really isn't ambiguous. It literally says that asking how superpowers work is a dumb question that children wouldn't ask.

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>>32591789
it says asking how the UNEXPLAINED parts work is dumb. Not literally world building in its entirety you colossal faggot.

>>32591834
>unexplained
If that's all it takes, then yes, it does apply to all worldbuilding, because the author can just choose to not do it, and then anyone who asks questions is being retarded according to that logic.

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So tell me, what are you working on right now?

>>32592254
A story unrelated to Pokémon

>>32592254
1. I've been giving LL some revision attention while drip feeding it to AO3. Almost done with that.
2. Trying to figure out what to do with O/C: options include into-the-trash-it-goes; rewriting up to 20k-worth in a crap shoot hoping it "feels better" being shot slightly differently now that I've decided that the long prologue will stand; or just pressing forward and letting my reader or two wonder why it's awkward, as though my being responsible for it wasn't explanation enough.
3. A few other minor things not relevant to our common interests.

>>32592254
So fucking slowly and steadily writing the digital draft of chapter 14 of TMoM. There have been a whole lot of distractions lately, mainly the part where I got a new job. I do sometimes wish I could just ignore my friends and do nothing but what is necessary, but that's all gay and shit.

Three paragraphs a day will still eventually equal a chapter.

>>32592254
Spicy Chicken, though progress is real slow while I'm out-of-state. Which is interesting in itself, because I FINISHED the first one while out-of-state in a strange burst of productivity.

>>32593477
>I do sometimes wish I could just ignore my friends and do nothing but what is necessary
Stop having friends, grant your own wish.

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>>32591576
Glad to not be the only one excited for next month.

>>32592254
At present, I'm drafting a new story >>32591316 about a thief who grew up in a place where the Pokeball made life easy for her and her Pokemon partner in crime. Misfortune tore her away from this convenience and brought her to a strange part of the world where the ubiquitous device isn't around. On chapter 8, if you count the prologue, it's about 50k words so far. Been posting Erika since one of the main characters, a thief who is partnered with a crafty Sneasel, looks like her and another, a lady-like flower girl with a pretentious Roselia, acts like her. Although the initial premise deals with the dark, underground nature of crime, it is blossoming into an adventure.

Protector's final chapter and epilogue I'm reviewing as well. Quite a lot of wordage to still work through. Should be posting soon™.

Overall what I'm working on: improving my writing style and my ability to craft a meaningful story. Looking back at where I started out is always a humbling experience. All I can really do is strive to improve. Sincerely hope I have.

>>32586750
That would require good writing so those type of stories don't exist

>>32592254
Preparing to do potentially extensive edits and additions to the next chapter of VoD that I upload to AO3.

Turns out a questionable decision I made years ago is now biting me in the ass.

>>32586750
I wish I could recommend my own work, but I can't say with any certainty that it's what you're looking for.

>>32594850
>Turns out a questionable decision I made years ago is now biting me in the ass.
QFT

>>32592254
Revising the next chapter of DS.
Slowly.

God help me for using foreign languages but it's needs to be there for plot.

>>32595645
>foreign language
I tried that once in a later chapter of TDT.

I probably got a few of them wrong since I just used basic Google Translate for anything I didn't know.

>>32595645
>implying that pre-tumblr American English isn't the omni-language.
Why? Kalos francophonics? Culturally specific puns? Reliance on stereotypes to establish characterization?

>>32594850
>Turns out a questionable decision I made years ago is now biting me in the ass.
That must be what being Aku feels like.

>>32595645
>God help me for using foreign languages but it's needs to be there for plot.
IMO that rules. More fics could take advantage of a world that diverse where foreign languages is a thing. Te doy un Me Gusta y un +1 porque quiero.


So, for those of us about to WBJ: how are preparations going?

>>32591316
I've done this in accordance to Nuzlocke rules in the Kanto/Johto regions. Protection systems are involved and a few other things, but most of it relies on the fact that they actually can convert matter into an energy signature and then edit it as digital code with a LOT of laws on what not to do.

>>32556943
>TOTT
I wouldn't say I have any particular preferences for setting. In terms of genres, I guess things like adventure, fantasy, or scifi are more my speed, but I don't think I have a single favorite genre.

>>32582199
When writing, I tend not to go into exacting detail or make my combat exceptionally violent. Or at least, I try not to. Characters typically just get minor injuries from battle, but I do include more serious wounds from time to time, including ones that leave lasting scars or the like. Speaking of which, my current story has an example of that sort of thing.

When reading, "graphical descriptions of combat" don't deter me, though I don't especially care for them. I'll keep reading even if the story gets graphic and gory, but I'd prefer if things remained less violent.

>>32592254
I'm working on trying to get back to work on my Combee story. I thought I'd get the next chapter out last weekend, but that didn't happen. Hopefully this weekend will be better.

>>32600596
yes. water starter = easy mode

Intellectual bump

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>>32604209
>Intellectual
As opposed to a foolish or ignorant bump? Does such a thing exist?

Actually....thinking on it, I suppose that's the majority of bumps on this crapshoot website.

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>>32604209

>>32604352
tl;dr

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>when you gonna finish your chapter within the week but that pointless internet drama between your friends consumes your time and takes away your sleeping schedule leaving you with the options of feeling shitty in the morning or feeling shitty now and never actually completing the fic and start the ever expanding downward spiral into delays and creative blocks

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>>32605888
Just stay out of it, mane. You don't need that stuff in taking up your time.

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>>32605905
when i'm now in a leadership position and there's no way out

>>32605988
>i'm now in a leadership position and there's no way out
This must be your first time.
There is a way out and it's called "delegation."
Nobody in a leadership position ever actually does anything. That's what they have the led for.

>>32604209
I dream of the day when my bumps can be intellectual.
On that note: bump

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>>32608980
>combusken is a firefighter

>>32608980
(mind = blown)
This is remarkably close to exact.

I'm dying, Squall

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>>32609202
Based art anon strikes again. This is really cute, especially Burner.

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>>32610664

>>32608980
Hey, fanart!

Morning bump

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slowest writers in the world bump

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>>32613896
Nvr4get

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Looking for a really old thread where Team Rocket took over all the regions.

All the posts were different POVs of what they were doing to help/stop the Rockets.

Can't find it in any archive.

Also looking for apocalyptic/detective/zombie themed Pokemon stories. Preferably trainers and living pokemon fighting off zombified humans/pokemon.

Pic was first pic on the old thread I couldn't find.

>>32613896
Not slow. Rather, finding and hastily fixing a slap-me-in-the-face-so-I'll-wake-up mistake in LL. Fortunately it literally affects nothing plot-wise, but how I managed not to notice…

>>32614013
>living pokemon fighting off zombi
Put your money on the bunny.

>>32614013
ZOMBIES YOU SAY
POKEMON AND TRAINERS YOU SAY
WELL DO I HAVE THE STORY FOR YOU
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12081290/1/Annabelle

>>32614231
always bet on the bunny

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Didn't let me post last night but what'evs. Desolate Seas Chapter 6
https://archiveofourown.org/works/8071213/chapters/24540708
A bit shorter than the last but for good reason, i dont think they would do well together and the next should be a long one.

>>32614044
well now I'm interested. What was it? I just finished a re-read and really want to know if I spotted it.

>>32614231

Ballin.
Hope for more.

>>32616823
>re-reading just before I finish the AO3 revision.
What timing.

When writing for Carlos's island-hopping adventure, I wasn't sure if I wanted to imply that all of the transporting was being done by Gil, and in one draft I tried implying that there were other boats in the operation, all named after mythological creatures, with a boat named The Phoenix being introduced as Max's ride midway through 18. But I quickly changed my mind because it added much complexity that didn't add value to a subplot already so complicated that I want readers to recognize that it's something to enjoy it for its mystique rather than its mechanism. Unfortunately, while I was in the zone one day as far as writing most of Ch. 20 in one sitting with no cut-aways to B plots, I apparently had the other boat's name stuck in my head because I wrote Phoenix instead of Sphinx all over. So today, I'm doing my review/edit thing, there's only a few clarity tweaks and one or two typos, but something feels wrong and I don't know what till literally Carlos asks Grace the name of the boat she saw in her vision and I say "No, that's not the boat tha—…
`grep "[tT]he Sphinx" *.txt`
`grep "[tT]he Phoenix" *.txt`
`echo OH GOD DAMMIT`
…before trying to fix it and hopefully it's all okay now.

Ever the optimist, at least my time spent reviewing all this stuff is resulting in the quality going up. How I make these errors in the first place, though…

Anyway, that puts LL@AO3 up to 20 of 21½ chapters (since 22 is epilogue), meaning soon O/C will be the only remaining threat to my sanity. (Ref >>32592945) The retake on O/C 1 expanded it +10%, and I suppose smoothed out the seams—it still feels like an establishment quilt, but I did cut away some of the TELL while tightening the character focus. Chapter 2 hardly changed, so either only 1 was as pear shaped as I feared, or I go blind to the issue after 7k of it. Major rewriting will happen soon but not for QC reasons, I hope.

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To spell it Pokemon or Pokémon, that is my question.

>>32618021
Whichever you have the effort to actually type every time you want to refer to one of them in the third-person so that you don't wear out narration.

>>32617758
Shit congrats man, it's a good little fic you got going for you. Hell, if reader's haven't figured it out by now, i'll be sure to drop the big foreshadowing and hints i gave in my story when it's all over.

>>32618021
Personally, I go with "Pokémon" in my writing, because that's the official spelling. But in more informal settings (like the writethread), I just type "Pokemon" because it's easier.

>>32618021
It's the 2010s. There's no reason to not write Pokémon. At this time it has become muscle memory too. I could write a FAQ one of these days on how to move your keyboard past the 1960s and have és and other symbols you might end up using a lot depending on what you write a lot about. (like or ₽ if you write a lot of technical for Pokémon).

In fact I already did, once; it's just under my real name and almost 10 years outdated...

That said, there are things in Pokémon canon that are named with a separate Poke instead of Poké prefix, right?

>>32620644
friggin' 1960s internet. The board seems to eat some symbols. °

>eats gender symbols
>not money symbols
effin' jews.

>CAPTCHA
>1990 remodel
effin' generation Z

>>32620644
>There's no reason to not write Pokémon.
You mean, Pokémon™, don't you?

>There's no reason to not write Pokémon.
There is one: English doesn't require the use of diacritical marks. They're wholly optional and usually deprecated.

>There's no reason to not write Pokémon.
PKMN developer Game Freak, Inc. found one: "To save five spaces in the text box."

>there are things in Pokémon canon that are named with a separate Poke instead of Poké prefix, right?
They're pretty consistent about it, since é and specifically é is naturally in their character set. If anything lacks it, it's probably an error or a technical limitation along the way.

>(like or ₽ if you write a lot of technical for Pokémon).
That's ruble, so unless you're writing about Alakazam using spoons to speak with his family back in the motherland to save on long distance phone charges, that's not appropriate. Yen, 円, has canonical bona fides in the earliest releases and remains clearly the economic standard: the English games' symbol is ¥ but with a P instead of a Y. Because I could not find a satisfactory symbol, I'm currently using “PKD” as a currency term in O/C's Johto scenes. It's workable but feels funny after getting used to Ocimene's pound-sterling analogue. I'm open to other suggestions.

>eats gender symbols
Let's test and see. Maybe it only eats the binary ones to help us fight the power.
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Have you guys ever thought about putting your OC's in a Pokémon League Tournament?

>>32621184
there was an attempt at such a collab in the past, but dates and deadlines were too loose and only a few participated, so it was scrapped.

>>32621184
I've never written a long succession of League competition combat scenes. I don't really like writing combat because I don't seem to have much of a sense for how well what I've written will go over. I deliberately try to make combat more than game canon does ("Press A until you hear fanfare") without just making up random stuff (animation canon) but it's like I have no sense for if a reader will be satisfied by it. Often what I wrote proves a whole lot shorter than it felt like when I typed it, and I'm self-conscious about how every action surely could be met with a critical complaint about a taken action—which is no more than Monday Morning Quarterbacking, but still a reaction I'd like to avoid provoking were I skilled enough to.

I suppose the problem is in the premise: If OC doesn't win, it's just another Ash. If OC does win, you're forced into either the Champion Hotseat problem which was fine for the first game (sorta) but quickly deteriorated into "beat the champion to be recorded in the Hall of Fame" and then grind a few levels for the Elite Four+ challenge, or you have to make up some other title-worthy reward structure for League.

>>32621216
/vpwt/ doesn't have a very good track record in the collaborative/competitive category.
>/vpwt/: Loafing writefags edition
Every edition is this edition.

>>32621130
>PKMN developer Game Freak, Inc. found one: "To save five spaces in the text box."
I have to admit you made me crack a heartly laugh at this one. Didn't remember those nifty font compression tricks.

(Are they still used in the more recent games?)

>There is one: English doesn't require the use of diacritical marks. They're wholly optional and usually deprecated.
Eh, deprecated is not the same as forbidden... I adscribe that one to colonialism speaking desu. I can guess back then when they were only fourteen or so and the printing machine was all news it could have been hard. But this is the 21st century and the internet is international.

>the English games' symbol is ¥ but with a P instead of a Y.
Closest thing I can find is ₱, the SE-Asian Peso sign. I personally consider ₽ a better fit due to the structure of the glyph, but I can live with either.
Glorious region with ₤ as currency when.

>>32621184
Yeah as >>32621216 says, not one that worked out.

>Monday Morning Quarterbacking,
The what?

>>32621568
>deprecated is not the same as forbidden
Indeed, there seems to be a particular fetish: "naïve" is written with that dieresis in texts that don't use that dieresis anywhere else.

>colonialism speaking desu
>ですing a sentence that ends with an explicitly written verb.
馬鹿だ.

>I can guess back then when they were only fourteen or so and the printing machine was all news it could have been hard.
Do you mean in the A.D. fourteen-hundreds, when Gutenberg was making bibles?
As far as typesetting news goes, with cold type, diacritical marks were used, especially for words taking the dieresis, like "naïve", but that was also a time of erratick ſpelling and vvhimſical abbrev. to fit the lines. With hot type, who cares about a meaningless mark over a vowel when we have the evening edition deadline in an hour and it'll be fish wrap by morning?

>the internet is international
Or, the USA conquered the planet and nobody noticed.
>Maybe that proposed UK Nannynet will give the third world an alternative?

>Closest thing I can find is ₱
I looked at the Philippine Peso symbol, but it so often rasterizes into a nasty blob.

>Glorious region with ₤ as currency when.
Most (all?) of the currencies using that Lira symbol are long gone.

>>Monday Morning Quarterbacking,
>The what?
A "Monday morning quarterback" is somebody who, after the game is over, criticizes decisions made by ball players on the field while playing.

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>>32622172
>The UK Nannynet
No, they will be too busy collecting porn and making parliament fetishes during sacred teatime to care.

> ₱ so often rasterizes into a nasty blob.
Yes, that is true suffering. I feel like most font designers haven't actually git gud yet.

Which brings us to probable topic - what fonts do you people prefer to use when writing? Who #timesnewroman here?

Also, WBJ is Soon™. Pic related. How are your preparations going?


>CAPTCHA
>YOUR TULA
F* you too, 4ch, you know you want me.

>>32625320
>what fonts do you people prefer to use when writing?
I change fonts spontaneously, which helps break visual monotony.

>>32625320
>times new roman
my actual negro

Morning

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>>32626687
>10:30pm drinking wine smashed off my face
>got work in 6 hours

Morning dude

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Freeballing entire drafts from scratch

>>32613932
replace tarantula with wasps

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Anybody started their Magikarp Jump fic yet?

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>>32629591
I dunno, tarantulas are pretty fitting as "vengeance".

Or, at least, the ones in Animal Crossing are.

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>>32627899
>not winging the entire story

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>trying to figure out what order to post chapters of VoD and TDT so they line up correctly

Another in a long list of things I should've planned out better. Although, I suppose in the end, it won't matter, will it?

>>32632359
Nope. Once both are out, order of consumption is in the readers' hands.

Assuming that they read both. They might only read one. Or none if they're skipping in search of the porn parts. So it's important to write knowing that any continuity matter regarding two scenes in different stories will be experienced four ways—A Only, B Only, A then B, and B then A—and that you're responsible for ensuring all four, however different, are enjoyable.

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Here's Chapter 6 of [Vines of Deceit], "Truth Will Out": http://archiveofourown.org/works/9294437/chapters/24615033

Have you been paying attention?

Also if anyone has this image in a higher resolution, I'd be very grateful.

>>32632612
I guess when the time comes, I'll have to make use of putting notes before/after relevant chapters.

>>32592254
A gorillion things at once.

I've heard it said here multiple times that it's better to pick one thing and bang it out as soon as possible, instead of spreading your attention across multiple projects. However, I've always disagreed with this "advice". I don't have the type of lifestyle that allows me to sit down and focus on anything for more than a half hour. I can't even bang out Important Life-Affecting Work Things when they need to be done. Whenever I get that long-awaited burst of inspiration, I'm always interrupted and and up losing it prematurely. I can't forcibly stretch it out over the course of one story the way so many people seem wont to do. So for me, it's better to take what I can get--hop from document to document, seeing what strikes my fancy at whatever moment of the day I get, and typing a line here and a line there. Nothing ever gets done, but hey, it wouldn't get done anyway the way things are now.

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>>32632781
>I'll have to make use of putting notes before/after relevant chapters.
>notes
>MFW

Just write good literature and it'll take care of itself. You only need to keep in mind that it must work for naive readers and work better for familiar readers.

>>32621184
None of mine have any more than three pokemon they could even toss in the ring

>>32634499
Wow and I fuck my trip. Ee4ee here. Still away from the typing zone

I've never written pokemon related stories before, but have writefagged for other boards. Anyone have some good stories I could read to get a general feel for it? Feel free to link your own stories too if you want some free views/a new reader.

>>32634543
The catalog in the OP is full of stuff to read both sfw and nsfw. I'll offer up this, http://archiveofourown.org/works/7262536/chapters/16489585 ; my current major project and a foray into two genres I've never written before.

>>32634509
That it was trip-only was a hint, and your propensity to miss your periods gave it away. And must keep your bf on his toes.

>>32634543
Which category are you interested in? Epics, long slice of life, lemon orgies, OC Journey, alternative reality but with pokemon… Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is its own sub-genre, too.

>>32634708
Part 4 was an interesting read, I never thought of all the settings you could use pokemon in. Part 1 threw me off at first given Viola's tendency to speak in 3rd person, but I eventually got what you were going for with that as a character trait and it paid off in the end. Also love how you set a scene, it's a nice balance that doesn't overload me with info.
>>32634717
Definitely not one for epics or orgies, but OC journeys and alternate realities are something I can get into if the ideas are novel.

amourshipping text story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxOhiUhJiPg

>>32634985
Glad to hear it mate! Overall you can use Pokemon as a backdrop for just about any story you try to tell, though some genres lend themselves more naturally to it than others do.

>>32634985
>OC journeys and alternate realities
Since you said ">Feel free to link your own stories", I guess I may as well throw my fedora into the ring.

Waterlogged: http://archiveofourown.org/works/6399277
>"A European merchant emerges the ultimate survivor of his ship's wreck. He rafts away to the nearby island home of the strange bird that helped precipitate the disaster in the first place in hopes of surviving in a distant uncharted land."
It's been compared to Robinson Crusoe, which I knew nothing about other than that a book by that name existed when I wrote this. Reading RC later, I can see the parallel of setting, but I didn't gift my protagonist with nearly as many lucky breaks (or FedEx packages for that matter) to make "man on island" interesting.

Nor Gloom Of Night: http://archiveofourown.org/works/6399787
>"Ford is a dragonite who delivers the mail on time, every time, almost. But, can he deliver a new friend from danger before her zealous pack leader declares war on a man who isn't willing to suffer sneasels any longer?"
Short but focused on concerns peripheral to the usual journey theme, such as pokemon living sans- or post-trainer, non-ownership acquaintance with pokemon, and pokemon combat without any League rules to observe.

Can't Escape: http://archiveofourown.org/works/6399403/
>"When a college-bound trainer enjoying his last summer on the road adopts a pokemon fleeing her abusive captor, a combination of failed promises, shattered dreams, and broken hearts threaten to destroy his team."
Much closer to an OC journey fic, although its focus is on changing relationships and the difference between intentions and results.

I've a few others, but I think these do a good job of showing the mood of my writing and of establishing my take on Pokemon as a practical fantasy world. I've been told that a couple of people liked them.

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Worldbuilding is pic related. Not much else I can say ATM.

What kind of videos/books do you observe to get an idea as to how combat flows in Pokemon when writing fanfiction?

>>32639136
The concepts of Beat-Em-Up games mixed with Spectrobes and a hint of trash anime. A lot of music.

What are some recomended fanfics with good amounts of worldbuilding?

Also, some questions to keep th thread alive:
Could Poke Balls catch humans? (e.g. by using it in an unintended way or by disfunction) Would you use this in your fics? (I know in anime canon throwing a ball at someone will just hit them with it).
What other uses would you imagine Pokemon could have, other than battling, being pets and food ?

>>32639146
>Spectrobes
My alolan form homologue.

>>32639701
>Could Poke Balls catch humans?
That'd make it a humaball.

>Would you use this in your fics?
It could be a fic in itself.

>What other uses would you imagine Pokemon could have
Paper weight, foot stool, bottom of a drafty door blocker, source of light, source of heat, anti-source of heat, anti-air purifier, dropped into a drain ring retriever, programmable remote control, in-flight refueling…

The possibilities are endless if you use your imagination.

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>>32639701
>What other uses would you imagine Pokemon could have
Depends how smart they are. I would make mine get a job, and if that's illegal I would make it learn to trade stocks. And if it became more successful than me I would develop feelings of inadequacy about my pet being the bread winner.

More seriously they could be useful for just about anything. Quite a few species would have applications as service animals, in the medical field, and countless other professions. Sun and Moon had a lot of examples: Rotom used as an adaptive interface for technology, Grimer used for garbage disposal, Porygon used to do maintenance on satellites, etc.

>>32640229
>living the NEET life while your pet does the hard work
Or alternatively,
>going on a new pokemon master journey while your trustworthy pokemon takes the place your parents once filled by sending you the funds you need
It's a wonderful idea.

>>32639136
Things like the Justice Leage show and other DCAU shows, they're pretty nifty for showcasing how a person with X powers reacts to a person with Y powers. Obviously sometimes the anime too, but only seasons up to D/P and even then with a grain of salt (THUNDERARMOR).

Other than that, some fighting games. Not any specific ones, just what comes and looks like it has good flow.

>>32639701
>dat spoiler
2π/10, made me think wrong.

>Could Pokéballs catch humans?
It depends on what a Pokémon is and what a Pokéball is - ie, it requires my previous post related. I would go with the theory that it is theoretically possible to 'catch' a human in a Pokéball, but the technical modifications required for that would make the Pokéball not work on Pokémon anymore, so it'd become a >>32639987 .

>Uses for Pokémon other than battling, petting and spoilers
Antidepressants. I mean, they are company. Also home improv and terraforming general. Lots of species could have use in entertainment and education, as well as architecture, and I could see bug types being good at stuff like detecting counterfeits or traversing and inspecting unstable structures.

>>32640367
I was thinking about that one episode where Prof. Oak says crabby looks tasty and that other one where the cast debates whether they should eat a Magicarp all while alluding to possible recipes.
Could it be that you were thinking about leveling them up, thoroughly training their EVs regardless of their IVs or nature ?

My headcanon is that humans are just "a kind" of Pokemon, they just don't realize what our "moves" and other pokemon-like traits are. Except, going by anime canon, the oddball person using psychic or aura moves.
Pokeballs not working on us might be a design feature (a safety measure excluding humans from capture, whether it was intended or not) or our ability.

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>>32640553
>headcanon is that humans are Pokemon
I maintain the distinction between human and pokemon, partially in the way that powers are portrayed.

In LL, the pokemon's version of the Waterlogged story specifies that they mistook humans for pokemon at first, but then recognized them as ascended animals when they learned that humans could not use -type powers. I've also included some canon supernatural elements, and regarded them as though humans can—given a natural affinity and deliberate effort—tap into -type powers in small ways. I've featured this in E/V with Colette showing off the small object levitation skill that is a hallmark of the "Psychic" trainer-class.

>Pokeballs not working on us might be a design feature
I write it as matter of composition, or mass and volume; a decision I had to make thanks to the games' Bicycle item.

From a world-building standpoint, we really don't want literally everything to be ballable because then the whole world becomes a theft-by-ball-beam laser battle, then, Ballception. Animation canon demands that some objects go into balls when "small/light-enough to fit in the capsule" which applies to onigiri, doughnuts, and in LL, clutter like cash and ID cards with rounded corners—but it's enough that the beam moves the object into the ball, there is no demand that the object be maintained in an altered physical state as pokemon must be.

Canon Bicycle is an item that's way too damn big to imagine being toted around, short of a bag of holding. So, in LL I established that there are bicycles that come in balls; Percival owns one.

That said, it's best not to get too involved or you open yourself to a lot of non-productive speculation: If a swalot swallows a person and it's then recalled, what happens? The correct answer is whatever makes for the most interesting story. :D But if you've painted yourself into a corner, you may miss that opportunity.

>our ability.
Hidden ability when?

>>32640962
I phrased it as "a kind" with quotes because I don't think humans literally are pokemon, I just believe they are closely related.
An analogy would be saying that humans are "a kind" of monkey, to avoid going into details such as taxons and such.

I agree that allowing Pokeballs to catch anything would throw the world into chaos, so there has to be a trait unifying all pokemon, even the inorganic or ethereal ones that the Pokeball latches on. Maybe their mind? As far as I know, all pokemon are depicted as sentient, if stupid in some cases, to some extent.

>If a swalot swallows a person and it's then recalled, what happens?
It's another "what if Ranma got pregnant" question. It's better to skirt around that issue completely rather than open Pandora's Box.

>Hidden ability when?
Maybe our hidden ability is learning -type moves.

Excuse me for my ignorance, but what does LL stand for?

>>32641025
>what does LL stand for?
Truth, justice, and the human/gardevoirican way.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/9174043

>>32641095
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/9174043
>22 chapters
>sounds good, I might try and marathon it
>part 10 of a series
Welp, this'll take some time.

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Recommend me some good MoonxLillie fanfics, onegai

>>32641198
none, Moon x Guzma best ship

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>>32641198
>>32641229

Moon x Lusamine (cucking Lillie) is best ship

>>32641342
Do fanfics about that ship even exist? Because now I'm kinda curious.

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>>32641108
That ordering is only a recommendation. Because of the Gardevoir tag, LL is often my readers' point of entry.

The series is one shared continuity, so reading order only affects minor spoilers and if a cameo appearance will make sense now or later. (e.g., Vincent, Tio, and Vera—members of Can't Escape's main cast—pop up briefly in LL, and one of the islands featured late in LL is the setting of Waterlogged.)

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>>32639701
>Could Poke Balls catch humans? (e.g. by using it in an unintended way or by disfunction) Would you use this in your fics? (I know in anime canon throwing a ball at someone will just hit them with it).

The way I've built my fictional world pokeballs are comprised of a similar matter present in a living Pokemon's genetics (let's simply call it "exotic matter" since that has a nice sci-fi connotation and would otherwise spoil a pivotal segment of my story). The actual ball functions as a miniature time capsule by using a black hole / gravitational anomaly.

Simply stated, Pokemon goes in ball, time passes for everyone else outside, but the mon does not age as it has been turned into raw information. Energy based off its unique data code. Interestingly enough this is how TMs are taught. You put the disc in the ball between the upper and lower half. When the mon is recalled it enters a training sim like the matrix's "loading program" where it has all the time in the universe to master the skill. That's why it takes experience levels to learn moves in the wild whereas a new hatchling can use a level XX attack from "young". In actuality the pokemon that learns the TM has simulation experience which carries over when it is sent out of the ball, becoming engraved in its DNA.

Thus in my design a human would not be effected by a pokeball because they lack the correct genetic code to be influenced by the exotic material present in the pokeball. Gene grafting has been studied in order to change this for various reasons and is a major theme in my stories.

>>32641811
That's actually a really neat way of explaining how many things in the setting work, such as how Ditto mimics other pokemons down to the moves.

Mind sharing a link to your writings?

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>>32641883
I do not mind sharing. The first series is Gift of the Protector, which consists of 3 arcs. Right now the 3rd arc titled "Radiant Heart" has just a chapter left and an epilogue. Those will be posted as soon as I manage to complete the reviewing process.

>Arc 1
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8003882/1/Gift-of-the-Protector-Fractured-Unity
>Arc 2
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8208346/1/Gift-of-the-Protector-Pristine-Embrace
>Arc 3
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10121590/1/Gift-of-the-Protector-Radiant-Heart

My next story in the saga is tentatively titled, "Heavens Slice". Different cast, another region, and a separate time. It follows the journey of a thief girl and her Sneasel on an adventure. I'll publish the prologue when I get the epilogue of Protector uploaded. After drafting 8 chapters, my initial thoughts are that this new fiction may be more accessible, but I'll leave that up to any reviewers willing to comment. Maybe I've improved my writing by coming a long way since my start date of 2012.

Your mention of Ditto's characteristics gives me an idea for a future chapter. Thank you.

>>32641888
It strives to surpass the cge mandate of "keeping things interesting"
>that gardevoir/romance tag combo, like honey for views

>>32642146
The amount of love Gardevoir gets makes me self conscious about the fact that the first time I went through Sapphire as a kid, I mained Ralts' evolutionary line because I didn't like the starters.

>>32642146
Your stories sound good. I haven't begun reading yet, but are the regions canon or original?
Asking because I guess it can be troublesome to have a region with original pokemons roaming about from a writer's standpoint. Or are the pokemon lifted from a particular generation?

>>32642170
Don't feel too self conscious about that since I'm certain you weren't the only one.

>>32642203
Everything I write is Alternate Universe. Geographically there are the same locations that exist in the games featuring Kanto, Sevii Isles, Johto, Hoenn, Orre, Alola, etc. In-game characters (like prof. Oak) make cameo appearances, yet all things considered it is about the original characters experiencing their life circumstances in the AU. Think of it as a parallel universe and that should be fine for understanding what I'm trying to do. If a wild Pokemon species happens to be "out of place" for the region it is found in I will explain why it is there with details.

Truth be told, I'm having a blast writing my new story because it takes place in a location where I can worldbuild even more. Without giving too much away, it's in a remote part of the world following some time manipulation shenanigans. Perfect for June's worldbuilding challenges.

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>when you forget to use your established handle on a new account

So I finally made an AO3 account and posted something that's been in production hell since at least December. Critique welcome.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/11058750

>>32644090
>when you forget to use your established handle
It's AO3, check the Pseudonym feature.

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>>32644090
>Critique welcome.
See the blue area? That's the area during which Reader does not know who or what the POV character is, ergo, can't visualize or imagine it. The pink bits are cataphors; pronouns that are referring to nouns that have not yet been identified. And this great mystery is held for the purpose of establishing that food is important to have, some plants aren't food, and that pidove ain't foolin'.

Unless there is a seriously overwhelming reason, it's bad business to open with undefined pronouns in the POV position, and the postcedent probably should come as soon as possible. Even if the definition is vague such as a physical characteristic, it's at least something.

Just to show the difference:
>Scraggy's stomach grumbled. Although he could depend on his father, Scrafty, taking care of himself meant larger shares for his family's members. Unfortunately, he needed a lucky break since the downtown flock of pidove left nothing lying around long enough for him to stumble upon it. Passing through the park, he thought about the humans; how they always had so much food, sometimes taking it from each other when not exchanging it for bits of paper or metal. Giving up on this location, he slipped around the bushes toward the wrought iron gate at an ornate archway, hoping not to be noticed.
>"Hey, Scraggy!" called out a human voice.
>He quickly turned to face it, and to judge if it were a threat. Through the gate's bars, with a squinting glance he made out a few human shapes, all paying attention to him.

Antecedents, clear motivations, drop the (apparently, at this point,) redundant establishment, and this smooths out nicely.

fuck

>>32644612
Much appreciated. I realized last night that I lost the "point" of this story long ago, and didn't really know how to relocate it. I'll implement the necessary changes.

bump
>>32639701
>Could Poke Balls catch humans?
Since we're talking about worldbuilding, keep in mind you're worldbuilding around an extant canon and that canon needs to be part of your 'result' unmodified. If you say pokeballs can catch humans, you'll then also need to say why they aren't used for this practice even in situations it'd make sense, like capturing criminals.

In my case; the technology is theoretically able - they work the same way the in-game teleporters do and those have been demonstrated to work on people fine. In practice, however, pokeballs are made without such ability so they don't have to be regulated as weapons.

Not so much the story I'm currently working on, but the one after that is going to go WAY into detail about pokeballs and the culture surrounding them, including the pokemon side of things.

>>32648263
>In practice, however, pokeballs are made without such ability so they don't have to be regulated as weapons.

But they can still carry [X amount of] biological weapons of mass destruction depending on interpretation, so how's *that* not regulated as a weapon? (Or at least a weapon carry / craft)

Why do we have irc instead of discord?

>>32649119
No vendor lock-in, plus it's not like anyone needs the VoIP features anyway.

Guilty pleasure request here. Recommendations for hurt/comfort fics with really clingy/needy characters?

>>32649145
my discord chatlog desu

>>32651666
Shiny little devil.

I don't want to work a wage and earn my living so that I might secure me and my family a comfortable future

I want to write fanfiction

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>>32651842
Can't even tell if this is sarcastic.

>>32651842
porquenolosdos.tiff

I mean, really. why not. I understand it is actually a thing in Japan due to cultural factors among them a sort of "respect your own origins" kind of deal. We barbaric westerners unfortunately do not seem to have even that.

>Implying it's gonna make you that much money anyway

So long as it pays the bills, it is money you didn't have beforehand.

Barring all that tho your priority should always be

>I want to write fanfiction

>>32649145

I dunno if a clingy pokemon is the type of clingy you want but I think this story is cute and you should read it

http://archiveofourown.org/works/8790532/chapters/2

>>32651842

mimiga how does one go about living off the land and shedding off the paltry concerns of the common folk while becoming a full time fanfiction writer

>>32652300
The humor lies not in the dream but in the truth behind it: "I want people to want to read my fan-fiction so badly that they're willing to financially compensate me for it to such a degree that the gross revenue will support my existence."

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>>32652875
My life goal is to find a way for people to do that for me, except swap "read my fan-fiction" to "have me masturbate"

>>32652858
Vry, you took part in the trainwreck that was /guz/?
my melanin-blessed compatriot

>>32653069
>find a way
That exists for a good while already

>>32652875
Eh, people wanting you that badly is a double edged sword. With rotating spikes on the hilt.

>>32653947
>That exists for a good while already
Sure, but for other people. I'm a hideous and stupid failure.

>>32653957
>I'm hideous
If you're going to masturbate the webcam is not going to be aimed at your face, senpai kohai desu

And there is such thing as a fascination for the abomination. It is a factor in human psychology.

>inb4
>But I'm not THAT hideous

>>32654125
>fascination for the abomination
Second to porn, when it isn't a part thereof, that's a primary driver of the internet.

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>>32652858
I appreciate the effort, however, I am one who has a certain level of disdain for this, "Guzma" character. Thanks anyway

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>>32651842
But anon, how will you keep up with the newer games without buying them?
>>32653957
What is The Hunchback of Notre Dame

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>>32655305
Now that LL's revision is complete and up on AO3, its one subscription (like the others, surely miss-clicks during panicked scrambles to hit the window's button) there is equally defunct.

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>read a book for the first time in three years
>first 30 pages are utter garbage, MC is a snarky unrelatable Mary Sue asshole who looks like a movie star (I wish I was joking about that last one)
>every other character is interesting and human and the plot actually turns out to be engaging but you have to wait so long to get to all of that
>author drops useless exposition with no bearing on the plot and at one point admits via narration that he didn't care to think of a proper lead in ("mc for some reason thought of his father")

Thank you writethread for teaching me how to not write like an 11 year old girl. I am now even more aware of the importance of making characters likable and goddamn INTERESTING. Jesus christ, I am beyond rustled. Anyone who wants to understand how not to begin a story, read the first five chapters of this bullshit.

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>>32656025
TotT then, as the thread closes out: What books did you read that profusely disappointed you, and paled in comparison to our amateur ramblings here?

When Pratchett's health was declining I decided to pick up some not-Discworld books of his. I settled down to read pic related all those years ago. I regret finishing it, because though the book ended, the story didn't feel like it did. What proper ending that might have existed was short-cut by a literal shortcut.

This book, as it builds up to the climax, slowly narrows its once-broad scope down to a couple characters separated from just about anything interesting. These characters are making a trip, you see. And the progress of the trip just sorta dwindles down to nothing, and then when it couldn't get any more boring, is declared to be an elaborate ruse, and one character departs to achieve motives never disclosed to anyone until now. What then might be an interesting take on Star Trek; Voyager then falls flat when abilities only now revealed whisk the characters back to the start real quick. The damning thing is this deus ex machina trip home was more interesting then most of the journey out!

Haven't read a Pratchett book since (and I know this is a series, one I absolutely will not be touching) . Pretty disappointed.

Another book on my list of "Fanfiction is better than this, how did it get published?" is Naomi Novik's Temeraire series, which might deserve its own post later. TLDR; cge once made clear for me the difference between a story, and a concept for a story, and Novik could have used such a lesson before she pushed this thing out IMO.

>>32656198
>Pratchett
One of the most insufferably verbose fanfiction authors I know sucks this guy's dick in almost every one of her fics, so I've been reluctant to read anything of his. Thanks for steering me clear of whatever that is.

Also, cge, care to drop that explanation?

>>32656025
>>read a book for the first time in three years
>choose one with cover art that looks like an early 90's direct to video release
Judge a book by its cover, not because the cover correlates to the quality of the content, but instead to the tastes and values of the author. (Sometimes it's wholly the publisher's design, but that still gives some broad insight.)

>>32656198
>What books did you read that profusely disappointed you, and paled in comparison to our amateur ramblings here?
As I nearly mentioned earlier in the pimp-oneself post but cut against the 2000 character limit, Robinson Crusoe felt like time went backwards and Defoe made a human-only version of my Waterlogged but copied Sindbad the Sailor's personality flaw as an excuse for motivation and orchestrated everything in Mary Sue's favor till it became religious propaganda. He also wasted words doing things like establishing a talking parrot as a pet that exists for that page, and is mentioned once (perhaps twice?) in passing later to no apparent purpose. It's Chekhov's gun, unfired, with feathers.

Had I read Robinson Crusoe in my youth, combined with the film, Castaway, I would've considered island survival a dead-end setting and never made the effort.
Most amusing I found was that Defoe too selected a diary format, for however a brief passage, but he managed to make even that part boring.

>As a tiny point of irony, I've never been a literary reader. I grew up on textbooks about natural sciences. Thus, I became a fiction writer for fun with only the bare minimum exposure to fiction that schooling demanded, and nearly all of that I deemed to be rubbish. I read Crusoe only because after so many times receiving feedback comparing Waterlogged to it, either neutrally or favorably, I decided I should at least honor my respondents by knowing what the hell they're talking about.

>>32656198
Only Revolutions. After House of Leaves I was pretty excited to get a hold of Danielewskis next work, only to find it needlessly obtuse and intensely uninteresting. I tried reading through and weaving the two stories the book presents and neither made it particularly enjoyable, so much so I couldn't bring my self to stomach more than 40 pages of side's story. I guess I could give it another go but I really don't want to.

There's nothing here I could compare it to, but that's fine. No one should be striving to mimic OR.

>>32656238
>care to drop that explanation?
I probably said it better the first time and at greater length than I will here, since likely Ee4ee's referring to something I wrote and immediately forgot about during a period of bizarre activity when more than zero people were willfully talking to me through FFN PM, but taking "ma[ke] clear the difference between a story, and a concept for a story" as a prompt, I'll make up something off the cuff as I surely did that time:

Story concepts are exciting ideas, because they let the imagination run wild: your mind can play with them. Endless possibilities! and the allure of exploration. This is because they are not stories. They are not complete. The excitement comes from discovering their unrevealed secrets.

A story makes a story concept have an arc of development and a meaningful message. It also defines limits, removing all of the alternative possibilities and forbidding exploration.

Popular franchise series like James Bond or Star Trek work by taking a small but interesting story concept (Macho espionage heroics, adventure towns in space) and for each film or episode, converting the story concept into a story by choosing an arc and message. The possibilities and potential are limited per-episode, but only a little is lost from the franchise. (Recent attempts to reboot Star Trek show how the establishment of lore over so many episodes finally constrained the writers enough to make them yearn for fresh air. Case in point, villain decay in Klingon and Romulan, and Borg going from cyber horrors to bionic goofballs.)

When an author falls in love with a concept, the concept's potential becomes precious, and the author becomes reluctant to impose the necessary restrictions required to forge from it a story. We've all seen them: a cool idea for a world that spawns reams of pages of world-building and wandering narrative, but for fear of letting it end, the work is never allowed to make a genuine impact.

(Continued.)

>>32656889
For the reader, if the setting is in itself charming enough, the author may be forgiven. But it's a form of kindness, it's gratitude for letting the reader share in the story concept and play with it, too. Yet there is a hollow yearning, a desire for a resolution that either won't come, or will come but only after so much material has been slogged through that it's underwhelming or leaves too much unresolved.

Knowing this (or at least having this opinion) is a strong influence in how I've written my fictions.

Ocimene is a story concept: Pokemon universe, but according to how I can imagine it making compromises that keep it true to itself while respecting the facets of Real Life that a fantasy like Pokemon naturally sets aside whenever it's inconvenient. (E.g., deaths in combat, life after training, and Sinnoh Folk Tales Considered.)

From that concept, I've been extracting stories. Each one explores (fun!) the concept, but also defines and solidifies material, consuming its mystery as fuel to build arcs and to communicate meaningful messages. However much I as an author "like" my story concept, it's not precious, it's a resource. What I deem precious is what I've drawn out of it. Characters ranging from charming and endearing to grotesque and reprehensible, and sometimes a mixture of these extremes. Expressions of thought experiments, often transcribed as they developed in my mind in pursuit of a resolution, and only edited for the sake of readability and a little extra drama or fun crossover cameos. Commentary on reflexive assumptions that people make, sometimes in real life, sometimes tropes in fiction or in Pokemon or in both, as colored by this setting. Sometimes I'm finding ways to express my personal opinions on how things ought to be, such as how I honor science/technology by naming towns after chemicals and streets after scientists, not after founders, politicians, and kings. (The latter, as explicitly mentioned in Waterlogged.)

(Continued.)

>>32657025
Someday, the resource will be exhausted, and I'll stop writing for Pokemon. Perhaps I have only one story for it left in me (assuming this one ever becomes finished) or perhaps somebody here will make a funny typo and it'll inspire a new story in me. (That's how E/V happened.) But I am not afraid of that happening and in fact welcome it: I want to extract from it all value that I may, share it with anybody who is of the sort that would find value in it, and once spent, remember it fondly knowing that it didn't go to waste.

That's probably the greatest disappointment of these works where a story concept is tortured for thousands of words into series of books that are always enjoyable but never enjoyed. Whether it be fear of there being no next thing, or simply reluctance to take responsibility for bringing a conclusion to the darling story concept, it's ultimately betrayed by not being allowed to meet its destiny.

It's a false concern. There's always another good story concept awaiting treatment, and no idea that was "overlooked" in one won't find another chance in another. But it takes a courage and self-confidence in the author that some simply don't have to become willing to decide that "this" is enough, that it's time to define the boundaries, build the arc, resolve the conflict, and let the story end.

Angels never know it's time…

But to ensure this commentary is actionable, I'll conclude it with a little try-this-at-home for y'all:

>Choose any series that ran on too long, or ended in a lackluster manner, and consider how one of its subplots, extracted and treated alone, could have made for a marvelous story.

That's the sculpture that could have been, had the sculptor not been ashamed to ruin so much beautiful marble in an effort to reveal it fully.

I'm glad this was shorter than I expected. I was afraid I might have to make it one of my tumblr essays.

>>32656833
>choose one with cover art that looks like an early 90's direct to video release
In its defense, that's the cover of a later release. Apparently it was originally a novella series, with even worse art. I only picked it up because the story (mass-produced slave class vying for rights) was similar to that of a vastly superior fanfiction I've read.

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>>32657172
>Apparently it was originally a novella series, with even worse art.
Aside from the æsthetic, what it reminded me of was pic related, but that's because I'm a dork. And now given
>mass-produced slave class vying for rights
it almost fits, except not as well as one of the artifact token creature engines that they printed a few years later, causing me to wash my hands of the game. And just in time, because apparently it got a lot worse.

>>32657128
> I was afraid I might have to make it one of my tumblr essays.
Do it anyway

>>32657264
Can't. I wrote it for this audience, not for no audience.

>>32657272
Just tag it as something useful that nets instant likes... probably something like "#f*ing capitalism". Reword just enough of it that it can be considered a criticism to racism, sexism or other -ism in literature. Bam. Instant audience.

>>32657128
I want to extract my waifu from the story concept and make her real.

Perhaps Ears was enough

>>32657128
>it takes a courage and self-confidence in the author that some simply don't have to become willing to decide that "this" is enough, that it's time to define the boundaries, build the arc, resolve the conflict, and let the story end.

Courage to fulfill that which must be done. Given me something to consider going forward with writing. In two words, a relief. How much it might have haunted me if I had backed out is a matter I need not be troubled by. Certainly a journey to reflect upon and likely not my last. You shall find that strength as well. Your completed works indicate you already have.

>>32658620
There's another facet to the necessary courage: "Getting published." After JK Rowling concluded Harry Potter, she amassed a collection of rejection letters for her next project. One factor being that she used another nom de plume, preventing the new pitch from being evaluated in terms of her past success. A confident author can take that step and, as she did, use it to an advantage—she publicized some of the letters as examples that even if you've got a half-dozen best sellers and are world-renown, you're still going to cast dozens or hundreds of lines into the waters before getting a bite if you don't exploit that recognition, as a way to offer some encouragement to those who've started to take the rejection stack personally. But those with less resolve and a mediocre success can become trapped by it, unwilling to try something new and worthwhile because they're afraid that it will be a flop and they'll be haunted by the "you could've just made more of the thing people liked even if it's getting stale" criticism. That's become almost a disease in music, where elderly bands are still playing two hours of 70's hits because despite ten albums of later material, everybody wants to hear them play "those" songs. Hence the solo career effect, the "they were better back then" (which may or may not be true) when a band does evolve over time, and performers admitting that they hate their own music in candid interviews.

Special study: When Garth Brooks wanted to go beyond pop Country he created a pseudo-identity, got a bit of success, and a huge backlash when people realized that he was his own protege. Instead of being celebrated for pulling off a meta-performance and proving himself skillful in two genres, fans took it as an affront and threw tomatoes. (He also oversold himself, but that's another story.)

Sometimes courage isn't enough to ensure success, and sometimes it's doomed to failure, but it's often the only means of escape from a gripping stagnation.

>>32660645
Anyone got any Phox bully fics? I remember seeing something ages ago about bullying a Braixen by putting her in a Heavy Ball but I think it was a greentext not a story.

What do you guys think of legendaries?
Are they unique beings that eventually leave their trainers and go back to roaming the wild?
Are they just extremely rare and powerful pokemons species, not just one-off beings?

>>32661028
Depends on the legendary. Canon establishes some are not unique while others are.

>>32660645
That's not how dousing is supposed to work.

>>32660838
>bully fics
He/r/e we go again. *pours a drink*

>>32661028
>Are they just extremely rare and powerful pokemons species, not just one-off beings?
It varies. Arceus is supposedly unique, as ought be Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem since even if the original unified form was a non-unique unknown pokemon, there is no lore of other ones transforming that way.

But we know that Lugia are plural in the animation, and the comics have an articuno selling frozen snacks, which is an unlikely occupation for a one-off. Also didn't a film introduce additional mewtwos? So she must've gotten laid at some point.

Absolute uniqueness also brings mortality and eras of existence into the discussion, which Arceus can get away with but others have less presumptive lore behind them.

Also, didn't X/Y confirm that the current canon is that each game played on each save file is its own parallel universe, so legendary uniqueness only applies within the scope of a game that hasn't been contaminated by link cable contact?

>>32660838
Don't know about the heavy ball, but I still have a few here if you like. Kinda old but still get the job done.

http://pastebin.com/ajmDDnxQ Water and Braixen

http://pastebin.com/yVYmXVTM Braixen

http://pastebin.com/YaLE7z9F more Braixen

http://pastebin.com/m6xZbijU even more Braixen

>>32634543
>Feel free to link your own stories too if you want some free views/a new reader
Well, since you offered, I might as well do so, in case you're still open to it now.
I've been working on something called "Outcast of Comb Island". Basically, it's about a Pokemon researcher who catches a Combee and starts training her; it focuses on their relationship and the ups and downs involved. It's not an epic or a lemon, and it might not be very novel, but it starts here if you want to check it out: https://pastebin.com/HcA6q6BN
Hopefully it's good enough. I don't consider it unreadable, but I haven't gotten much feedback on it, so I'm unsure what other people think of it.

>>32639701
>Could Poke Balls catch humans
I think not. They're specifically made to catch Pokemon, and they've never been shown to be able to catch humans.
>What other uses would you imagine Pokemon could have
The sky's the limit. We've already seen Pokemon used for many different things throughout the series: working in a moving company, as mail carriers, as a taxi service in Lumiose, as police mounts, the list goes on.

>>32656198
>What books did you read that profusely disappointed you?
Honestly, I've disliked quite a few of the books I've been assigned to read in college (though there are also plenty of college-assigned books I enjoyed). Off the top of my head, I remember “Native Son” being especially bad, mainly because I felt like the message/ideology it was pushing (assuming I understood it right) was pretty messed-up and nonsensical, and it had various other flaws with the plot and characters. There are some other books, including non-college ones, that I vaguely remember disliking, but I lack the time and motivation to write about them here, so that's all for now.

>>32661259
>Native Son
A high school book for me. As you've said, nonsensical garbage. Relies heavily on shock value.

>>32661028
Like cge and that one anon said, I think whether or not they're unique depends on the specific Legendary. For example, Latias form herds according to Latias' dex entry, so there must be multiples of them. But presumably, there's only one Arceus.

There are also some Legendary Pokemon that are shown to be created in specific ways that seemingly are not one-time-only. That means more of them could theoretically be made, so they have the potential to be non-unique. For example, the Legendary Beasts were created by Ho-Oh, so Ho-Oh can probably make more if it chooses. The same is true with Regigigas and the other Regis, and Arceus and the Creation Trio. And then there's Mewtwo.
Speaking of which...

>>32661162
>didn't a film introduce additional mewtwos?
Yeah, there was the original Mewtwo, and then another one was introduced in the Best Wishes era. It had a very similar backstory to the first, except it was female and wasn't all angry and vengeful and whatnot. That suggests there could theoretically be an unlimited number of Mewtwos... if scientists were crazy enough to keep producing them, that is.

>didn't X/Y confirm that the current canon is that each game played on each save file is its own parallel universe?
Did it? I don't remember that detail. But I do remember Zinnia in ORAS mentioning the possibility of parallel universes existing. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?

>>32662096
>if scientists were crazy enough to keep producing them
Since
>it was female
scientists are no longer necessary.

>Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
Probably. I think there was a thread in /vp/ where they put pieces together to form a conspiracy theory.

>>32662160
>scientists are no longer necessary
Fanfic writers will make sure of it, it's just inevitable.

>>32662189
Make sure that scientists are no longer necessary? If we have a canonical female mewtwo it sounds certain already, unless you're implying that mewtwo will generate mews instead, so science is needed to discover a hold essence that will make mewtwos instead. (Or perhaps mewzeroes?)

>>32661028
Where do I begin.

I could just link to the treatise I wrote on how do I see Legendaries working, though that is very tied to my particular setting - which also has to be a thing in consideration, as the canon tells us very little and very loose about what Legendariness makes. But down the line, just as with p much everyone else I guess the answer is "depends on the Legendary" (and the setting). I've charted and ordered mine based on number, gender/sex, unicity, divinity, power (real vs perceived), lifespan and worship.

Basically, Legendary as a term is an umbrella, even in canon. They could be more powerful than the norm, or weaker (Arcanine and Unown count as Legendary depending on how much you take of the term branching itself). They and are can be unique, rare or common. If some of them can be as natural creatures as everything else then it is likely that they also have their races (or however the term can be interpreted given their number), sexes, lifespans and who knows what other biological traits. They can be intelligent or not. At least the high-order concept ones "should" be at least self-aware, probably. They may or may not speak "mind language" or whatever.

>>32662096
Nothing suggests that either Mewtwo were able to reproduce. As genetic experiments, one of which was intended to be a biological weapon, it makes some sense that they are created sterile.

That said, Mewtwo1 did build up his own genetic testing laboratory.

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>>32662349
>it makes some sense that they are created sterile

>>32662349
>Nothing suggests that either Mewtwo were able to reproduce
That's not what I meant--when I said "there could theoretically be an unlimited number of Mewtwos", I was referring to how scientists could theoretically make an unlimited number of them, and not claiming that a Mewtwo could reproduce. But looking back at it, maybe I could have worded it better.
For the record, I agree that Mewtwo probably is sterile, partially for the reason you bring up and partially because it can't breed it ingame.

>>32662401
You can't breed Latios and Latias ingame either.

>>32662349
I remember that display in the anime showing the bird trio and arcanine.

>>32661028
I have a doc with every legendary that exists, along with notes as to whether they're unique or not, the roles they have, if any, as well as a bunch of notes and shit on Arceus and the Lake Guardians because they're all super fucking important and actually deities. If the dex/in-game conversation and information would make the suggestion that a lego did something crazy and world shaping, I sort of ran with it because it seems like a neat way to have a creation myth evolve. Like Regigas moving continents, for instance.

The issue is I have to sort this all out and make sure it's been seen to appropriately. There's also notes for how to go about capturing some of these legendaries and why others can't be.

>>32662576
They're siblings you sick bastard~

>If the dex/in-game conversation and information would make the suggestion that a lego did something crazy and world shaping, I sort of ran with it because it seems like a neat way to have a creation myth evolve.
My fictiohistorian of patrician acquired preferences.

Midnight bump

I'll survive (the ban)

>>32664562
who are (You)?

I have recapitulated. A I know in what I must change:
1. The God character is a Omnipotent and Omniscient Narrator. He won't make any kind of action to change the course of action. And if acts. I must specify it.
2. The people are emotional (unfortunately also mine, but I wanted to be a vulcan). So the stories must connect to their feelings. I'm not writing an History or Science Book.
3. The characters must be real and credible, not Gary Stu. Also I must get a sane dose of cannon things.
4. The god character must play in terms of morality. Not like Q, but more than a human moral... Or Q if humoristical or satirical purposes, or even more if is in a real framework for the character's life and not for a bored God.
5. I must write first in Spanish and then on English in order to ensure to write first something logic and then translate without any kind of nonsensical sentences or staments.

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>>32664598
Something's wrong. That sounds half decent.

What did you do to the real you?

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>>32664598
See, i told you. You could make a thing out of this and you did, proud of you. Keep it up.

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>>32664598
Nice going, mate.

I'm interested now. Hope you make something great.

>>32639701
Maybe, if that silly WB kids commercial having ash capture Jackie chan has anything to say

>>32666407
Holy shit I remember that

>tfw you will never again hear POKEMON-MON-MON-MON-MON

>>32666407
Does that mean Jackie Chan now lives at Professor Oak's ranch?

>>32666407
A true legendary indeed.

Historia: Pokemon Heroes: New Light
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8010648/1/

I have found this... So I'm analyzing to get something useful to assimilate to my style. I'm right?

>>32666800
I'm wondering how would be a parody/satirical fic involving the Samsung Galaxy S8. Sic. Is a joke. But also I parody. So I dunno. In other stuff I'm looking if a novelization of my own gameplay of ORAS would be good...

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Content bump

Here's [The Dark Type] chapter 14, "Silver and Gold": http://archiveofourown.org/works/9113758/chapters/24752646

>>32666882
Novelizations aren't good. In order to make the story original and interesting, you'll have to change so much that it won't even be a novelization anymore.

>>32668210
Not necessarily. Sometimes a novelization that is close to the source material but only mostly cares to exchange some POV around or showcase some elements that in the original went skipped or not given enough depth, can go a long way. The novelization of Return of the Sith is a good example.

That said, videogame novelizations are a different kind of cookie in cases such as Pokémon, as there is not much of a "main sequence" barring a series of steps, and anything you do with the main character sets it apart of what little canon gives them.

I've started reading Char-Cole recently, may I ask for recommendations regarding stories that feature humans turning into pokemon? Preferably not in th MD setting or stories in which the change has no impact.

>>32668800
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7739127/1/Land-Skye-Living-a-Legend
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6595319/1/The-Human-Species
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9461869/1/Changed

There are surprisingly few good ones.

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Hmm, yes, I want a male trainer romantic with his female Palossand. Or it could just as well be a random encounter.

>>32670839
http://pastebin.com/8JFzykJm
There is a Palossand fic, but it's female trainer on male palossand. Hopefully someone becomes a madman to satisfy the vice versa.

>>32670903
I feel like /vp/ is moreso /tg/-like in its tendencies. For reference-
They're all completely into the "male human/female nonhuman" thing when in fanfiction and the like its usually the reverse because...well most fanfic writers are female.

>>32671017
>most fanfic writers a female
Is that because alot of fanfiction is slash or something?

>>32671035
Honestly, yes.
But uh beyond that- I have no idea why most fanfic writers are female.

>>32669462
Those links are much appreciated!