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Crippled Deos edition

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Previous Thread >>32462760
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First for STOP JOBBING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
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>aqua jet with battle armour to get the opponent to roll onto purple
>3mp in this gym
>3mp in the upcoming rock gym
Kabuto is best boy. Add Kabutops with a similar wheel to Armaldo without the 1mp and I'll fucking nut
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>>32495656
3rd for more like "Old News And No One Cares About Deoxys Anymore Edition" lmao GOTEEEEEM
Seriously though, 3rd for OP a shit
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Man fuck my luck, since this gym started I've gotten zero EX's. I've got over the 50 win mark, I'm even in the top 1200 (barely), and I opened 3 quad packs, and who knows how many time boxes.

I actually wanted some of these EX's, at least Virizion, but nope I can't pull shit right now
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I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HAVING TO GO FIRST EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN GAME AND NEVER HAVING ANY OF MY SPINS WORK OUT FOR ME
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So are new figures being added tomorrow as well as the balance update?
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>>32496284
yeah ex scizor, regitrio, and jirachi
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>>32496284
It's a new month so 2 EXs most likely.

When they gave us 3 new EX grass types they ended up being used for 2 consecutive gyms, and old buffed figures filled the gap in between.
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>2 more wins.

I know I can probably reach it, but scoring wins is getting harder and harder.

And then what to do with the extra Kyogre, keep it or fuse it with my current one?
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>>32496377
Doubt you'll ever end up using both of them in the same deck, especially since they have 1MP. I'd fuse it and increase the damage of break energy.
How did you get that many wins to get two Kyogre anyway? Whats your gym rank?
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>At an 8 streak in gym and also a pretty high ranking (I lost it at 7 to hax but continued)
>Can't find an opp so it matches me with a bot, first time playing one
>Uses my Gyara's hyper beam to evolve its Magikarp and takes the extra turn to send Zapdos to murder Virizion and prevent a goal surround

Wew
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>>32496402
>How did you get that many wins to get two Kyogre anyway? Whats your gym rank?

Currently it's in the low 1700s, but it was at the high 1900s before a massive losing streak.
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And there we go, I got that Kyogre.
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>it's a match that goes in your opponent's favor and no matter what smart strategy you do to stop it you lose anyway because you rolled on your smallest miss segment, tied a purple, landed on blue when you didn't need it, or roll the microscope sized purple segment episode
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>>32496550
>not evolving your figures to have 4-star purples
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>My Virizion lands on Grass Knot vs Goalie Blastoise's Hydro Pump
>Opponent has Manaphy on the field
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What's in the box, /vp/?
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I just lost to some guy who used his mew to attack my grovyle and move 5 steps in total right into my goal thanks to mew landing on his blue, like damn, i totally didn't expect him doing that and from the looks of it this isn't the first time he gets lucky by doing this...
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Should I wait until the next figures or buy Mew or Virizion now?
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>>32497203
They come out tomorrow. Just wait.
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I haven't had any motivation to play in months. RNG nerfing when?
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Any info on what the new figs are?
Ive got enough gems saved for 3 quad packs and 20 tickets from the gym/rank rewards to blow

also any info on a gem sales?
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>Play in a way evem bugbot would be ashamed of
>1390 rank
>9 wins in a row

I guess I met one of those fabled reddit whales, then again he had crappy team so I have no idea.
On another note I'm two wins away from the second Kyogre, but since I don't care I'm just going to sleep.
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>>32496919
it's shit
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>>32497589
I personally got to 42 yesterday, and stopped caring entirely even though I could easily have made 50
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I can't wait to buy three Zapdos to rid of you Eeveelution shitters. I'd use 6 Double Chance if I could.
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>Toxic Spikes doesn't evolve Frogadier

Even with an extra MP in the gym this nigga is useless, he only attacks one third of the time
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>>32495846
>opponent makes me respin
>still beat his 40 attack
>to the PC
>comes back
>does the same thing
>fails again
Heh.
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>>32498186
Just ram it into people rushing with Karps. I've seen like 9 of them evolve on mine even though I mostly keep it in the back at early game.
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FUCK
THIS
GAME

WHATS THE POINT OF EVEN TRYING TO WIN IF GOING SECOND ALMOST ALWAYS DETERMINES THE WINNER
WHY AM I BEING PUNISHED FOR DEFENDING MY GOAL AND TRYING TO ATTACK FIGURES ON MY ENTRY POINT
YES I'M FUCKING MAD
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>>32498860
git gud
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Tell me why I should not uninstall
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>>32499021
Because we'll be seeing 170 attack Metagrosses in a week or so.
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>>32499041
lmaoing @ ur life
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>>32499093
Is this duel's version of swinub used powder snow
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>>32499113

No, it's because Steel-types are getting the MP boost.
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>>32499305
Wrong, its Rock types getting the +1 MP. That post was about Aron not caring about a 170 Hyper Beam
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>>32499305
>dragon gym
>Fairies get damage buff
>fire gym
>ground types get damage buff
>grass gym
>poison types get damage buff
>water gym
>grass types get damage buff
>rock and steel type figured buffed
>the pattern will suddenly reverse
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>>32499328
Enjoy rolling Tackle every time
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This was the first gym I failed to get the x wins trophy.
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>>32499514
>wasn't initially gonna go after the trophy after getting kyogre
>remembered I care too much about A E S T H E T I C S to pass it up
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>>32498860
What? Defensive stall cancer is one of the most solid and braindead strategies in the higher tiers.

Full Deoxys teams are still 2,9+ because of that, they just changed strategy.
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>>32499093
I can't wait to evolve my Grovyle for free turn 3
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>>32499653
Not downplaying defensive strategies, I'm criticizing the fact that this game punishes people that initiate fights, despite it being the only way to clear your entry points. There's no reason for Moltres to land on Roost three times trying to get a fucking non-Cosmo team Deoxys-S off an entry point and then getting surrounded.
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we have cobaltion, terrakion and noivern EX, heatmor, ninjask and galvantula R. New and better genesect drives EX, steel energy (who counter poison and gives +10 damage) and stupid orange boosters againg... heatran and genesect come back to the rotation againg too
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>>32499775
>Noivern EX and Galvantula R
fuck yeah
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>>32499775
pics?
Im still on maintenance
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>>32499831
those were just the patch notes, i dont have pics of the figures.
With the new steel energy + techno charge, genesct can do 110 damage. The new plates work exatly lime the other ones but instead of the miss, we have like a double chance incorporate.
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i can see genesect with the new shock drive being used
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>>32499754
Maybe don't be let your entry points get taken in the first place. Unless you're dealing with a shuppet without having an infiltrator blocker, you're already playing bad if you let yourself getting capped.
I bet you run goal block too.
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>>32499775
> (who counter poison and gives +10 damage)

>trying to build a poison team
>already nerfed

Well, for now I assume literally nobody will run it but still.
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>>32499999
OH SHIT
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>>32499994
DUDE
HURDLE JUMP INTO THE ENTRY POINT
LMAO

Also Goal Block is for little bitches
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>>32499754
Capitalize matchups. Why are you sending a Pokemon with Roost against Deoxys-S when it has a clear risk of being surrounded? Hell, why did you continue to do it two more times afterwards?

You sound like the kind of person who doesn't run Gyarados because it gets checked by Mew.
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>>32500038
>You sound like the kind of person who doesn't run Gyarados because it gets checked by Mew.
Are you still fucking on this?
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>>32500038
Can't capitalize matchups if you go first, whoever goes second has that luxury unless you run Pokemon Switch to essentially turn the order around.
And Moltres obviously wasn't in immediate danger of a surround if it landed Roost and had Wait 2 two times before getting surrounded on the 3rd Wait cycle. Also, don't pretend that landing on the bird's smallest wheel pieces 3 times when half its wheel could easily take out a Deoxys-S isn't some shit tier luck. If anything, you're implying not to run any of the birds just because they might land on Roost.
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all this bird, gold atack counters, nice.
good quad too
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>>32500124
Damn, good quad
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Just spent my 19 tickets

>Aggron
>Dialga
>Onix
>Flareon
>Lilligant
>Kabuto x3
>Petilil x3
>Riolu x2
>Swellow x2
>Nincada
>Noibat
>Mawile
>Spinarak

Two EXs is cool, just wish they were the new ones. But at least a buffed Aggron is better than nothing. Now onto opening some quads
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Oh boy
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>>32500146
Holy shit
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>>32500146
Genuine menace
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>Remember how cancerous Deoxys S is?
>Let's make it even more

Burn plate decks + ninjask are going to be hell.
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Is Dialga worth running?
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>>32500143
>Noivern
>Aggron
>Heatmor x2
>Steelix
>Tyranitar
>Lilligant
>Nincada x2
>Aron
>Bronzor
>Kabuto
Noice
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>>32500143
Just spent 30, got Noivern, plus Skarmory, Lilligant, Tyranitar, Jolteon, Gastly and Heatmor. Thought I wouldn't get anything at all.

Also bought a quad and got a gastly and 3 (three) Golem. What the fuck.
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>>32500146
This update fucks Mew and birbs in the ass
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where are the mew and the zapdos???
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2 Quads

Golem
Kabuto
Joltik
Ninjask
_

Noibat
Bronzor
Nincada
Onyx

19 tix
Kabuto x3
Golem x2
Mawile x2
Durant
Noivern EX (Fuck yeah!)
Swellow
Nincada x2
Dialga EX
Heatran EX
Onyx
Bronzong
Riolu
Joltik
Tyranitar

Pretty fucking happy with 3 EX's
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>>32500171
There goes Gyarados biggest check
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probably now that we have have some figures who can pretty much shit on gold atackers, we will probably see more deoxys decks againg, c-cool...
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>>32500167
Just bought two more quads and got Cobalion in the 2nd. Pretty damn good pulls. Terrakion looks insane though, I almost don't want to spend mats on it because it looks like it could be nerfed in the future considering its only bad spin is an 8 miss and it blocks blues. Might be time to bust out some meme counter like Phantump or Magmortar (burn on death to whittle it, or outright ko via pure)
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When you misread noibat and think it removes wait from bench pokemon and get destroyed in league play
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joltik looks very interesting
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>19 tickets
>Dialga only EX
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>>32500217
Speaking of Noibat, how does Noivern sound to everybody? It kind of seems like a discount Gyarados on paper, assuming you can get Noibat to evolve
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>>32500219
>smol bug: tie killer edition
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>>32500243
Manage to evolve him off of a confused Palkia, he was pretty beast
Does anyone know yet if whirlwind will evolve him? Cant spin it to save my life
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The old Genesect R plates seem like worthless clutter in the shop now, of course you want to guarantee yourself a respin without any extra plate energy cost
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>>32500264
Yeah "displacement" purples (whirlwind, hurricane, slippery swap) do evolve your figs so level that. Noivern doesn't seem that amazing to me but I guess an evolved one could be worth using
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>>32500243
>>32500264
Me again
Its also complete mew bait, which is pretty shit considering how much anti gold stuff was introduced.
I'm considering buying long throw to combo with Nincada and Noibat, but not sure how good itll go, Thoughts?
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>mew is shit
>genesect now viable
does God hate his own creation?
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>>32500318
Why is mew shit? The anti gold?
And I've a lv 5 genesect from early game already so I hope the plates will be worth it
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>20 tickets
>No EXs
>Only Rs were Jolteon and 4 ONIX

Man fuck me
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>>32500311
>This Pokémon gains Wait 10 at the start of the duel. When this Pokémon faints in battle, you can evolve it without sending it to the P.C.. If you do, move 1 of the Pokémon in your PC to the bench

Sounds like Suicide: the pokemon. Throw it in your opponent's face and hope he kills it. You get one back from the PC and evolve without getting knocked out. Moving that thing around with 1 MP is definitely too much trouble, but I think Switch works better than Long Throw.
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>>32500202
>Deoxys D on a full fuck gold deck

Y-yay..
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>heatmor is R
>durant is UC
Why is this allowed?
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>steel now have 2 attacks that will KO them
>no other type has any
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>>32500394
Heh...welcome to the new meta...kid
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>>32500471
>Those plates
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>>32500471
>Cobalion sits on the goal surrounded by two Deoxys Ds

just try and outwait me
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>>32500171
>instead of fixing Greninja's shitty spin move let's fuck him over even more
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>>32495656
Noivern can be fun, but I doubt people will keep running birbs as freely now. Which is good in a sense because flying type was the most centralizing one among EXes.
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Bronzor looks like a fucking beast. Why would anyone use Bronzong over it?
>alright ability
>confuse ray
>70 damage white
>no miss at level 5
>2mp
>heavy slam destroys 3mp pokemon
Might buy it with material. I need my baby boy
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So Cobalion with minimum 60 gold attack checks Zapdos, Mew, Greninja (except hydropump), Rayquaza, Raikou, and all others like Zygarde and Empoleon are terrified of a 40%+ Sword of Justice.

If you wanted a Fuck You Gold figure, he's your guy.
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Is the game broken for anyone else? I can't even get to the fucking menu. Fix when?
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>buy Cobalion cause i already have over 9000 material

>first battle is against a Greninja
>roll miss against Shuriken
>forget for a second it's gonna be fine

this guy is awesome, it has only died by rolling misses, and it's gotten them a lot but i love how they just avoid attacking him at all if possible
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Fun times when Yveltal's huge 100 was scary
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will Grass round 2 be against Bug?
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>>32500143
i wasted my 17 tickets and got Nothing but trashOnly some of the new UC pokemon and a R Tyranitar and Skarmory
I also bought 2 quads and got terrakion and noivern, fuck yeah! i would've bought another one if i had the gems, like god damn i got lucky, especially because i wanted that terrakion

>>32500146
Well, now i finally have something to replace Yveltal, so tired of it being a mew magnet...
>Friendship with Yveltal ended, now Terrakion is my new best friend
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>>32500318
>mew is shit
But mew still has his ability to avoid dying from 100+ dmg attacks, it's just that now it cannot kill anything that is hugging a coballion.
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>>32500908
>Fun times when Yveltal's huge 100 was scary
More like
>Fun times when Latios 3mp and 120 was scary Right until it rolled a low dmg attack and died, then you just laugh your ass off
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>>32500994
>First Time up against a Lati
>It spins miss
>Mfw it returns to its own planter
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>2 quads
>Not a single new figure or ex

Just fucking end me I'm so sick of this game
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>>32501154
At least you're not on a 7 quad no ex streak ha ha ha
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>>32501154
>2 quads
>Get one Ex
>It's a dupe Dialga

At least I can now ruin people's days with a 131 Roar of time
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>Saved 10 booster tickets for next rotation
>600 Gems saved waiting for six packs.
>Wow, Terrakion looks cool, lets pop those tickets.
> 2 Heatran.
>Gonna save gems till infinite and beyond.
>mfw
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I've got some gems saved up, are these new figures worth it?
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I feel like my deck is complete shit now thanks to Terrakion
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>>32501541
Grab yourself a Deoxys-A.
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>>32501625
>just got to 3000 mats after spending all my tickets and gems
Stop tempting me with your dulcet tongue ;_;
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>Bronzor is just a better Bronzong
Really makes you think.
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>spend eternity downloading
>game crashes
>repeat
>haven't even made it past the start screen
epic
absolutely epic
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>heatmor is shit
and now we wait for the durant meta.
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>>32500160
Only for budget decks.
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>>32501796
Heatmor is a direct counter to Durant, if Durant becomes meta then Heatmor will too.
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>>32501810
That's what I meant, yeah. But they could have at least made Heatmor more interesting than an big Aron.
At least Melt and Eat is such a cool name for an attack.
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>>32500506

Is this even beatable?
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>>32501857
Evolved Magmortar's flame gun would do it.
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>>32501857
Shuppet/any <20 damage attack
Deo D miss
Typhoon Slash into a surround
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Convince me not to use my mats to get 3 deoxys on top of the deo-n and deo-s I already have
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>>32501891
Some people think traps are not gay, they all play deo teams
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>>32502019

Reading this and trying to make sense of it is like having a minor stroke
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>>32501865
Deo-D's ability "Shelter" makes it and any adjacent allies immune to instant ko moves
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>>32501865

Deo-D prevents instant kill effects, i know it very well

the problem with that plan is that eventually he needs to DO something, if all he has left is those 3 figures he forcefully will have to move a Deo away from the safety of Cobalion's arms
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>my CLv 1 Whimsicott vs their CLv 1 Phantump
>the only outcomes that aren't a tie are either Whimsicott landing Cotton Guard or Phantump landing Confuse Ray, which'll almost let Whimsi roll Dodge infinitely
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>rock gym
>add new bug figures
>no shuckle

what the actual FUCK!
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What am I in for?
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>>32502057
>Deo-D prevents instant kill effects, i know it very well
that reminds me of the time when i got this fucker back at his goal with both of his entry points blocked and only a deo S and D hugging each other, i moved my lucario to kill the deo S and landend on aura sphere, the thing is that since i couldn' kill either of them it forced me to shot my own bird that was sitting on his right entry point letting him take out the rest of his deoxys out, boy i bet that asshole was having quite the giggle after that.
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>>32502374
An easy time at the Rock/Steel gym
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>>32502374
aron hungers
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So Aggron will basically be necessary to stop Terrakion rushes in the Gym, no?
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>>32502221
Terrakion is all Rock got, Bug got a bunch of new shit and Steel had plenty already but the orange boosters are promoting Rock anyway

Fuck, it's gonna be a while before they roll out new fossils.
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>got above 2600 for the first time
I'm gonna make it lads. Got Terrakion today as well, do you think that would be better than Galvantula? Only using it because it completely fucked over a Ho-Oh last game for a good 7 turns.
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>>32502374

>mfw skarmory is useful again

holy dick, swords dance is a godsend for this thing
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>>32502653
Terrakion is probably better. I think most of the meta figures right now mostly shrug off paralysis so unless you have three jolteons to really leverage it you'll get more mileage out of rock bull.
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Tips on improving my team (pic related)? Wondering what to spend my material on. I'll attach the EX figures I have in the comments for those willing to help a bro out
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>>32503007
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>>32503007
let go of twins combo. I doesn't worth the trouble.
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>>32503007
whimsicott is a meme figure
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>>32503007
looks like you dont have nothing better, but you should change the tao dragons and wimshicot when you have the chance, specially wimshicot, he is gold atack bait and he puts 0 presure
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>>32503007
Don't listen to >>32503073 since Whimsicott has great synergy with twin dragons. Anyways, I'd probably swap out your Shuppet for Umbreon. Shuppet really isn't very durable (which is important since you need time for Wait 9 to expire) and isn't very useful once the battle reaches the stage where it's 4v4. Umbreon is a good 3mp replacement and its Toxic has good synergy with your dragons since the -40 can make for easier banishes. You could also get rid of Moltres for Karp->Gyara if you have it since Gyarados is a decent matchup to Terrakion and generally a better attacker than Moltres overall.
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>>32503108
>gold bait and zero pressure
That can be said about 90% of all 3MP figures. They're not meant for survivability
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>>32503007
You're doing fine. Drop the Whimsicott though, it's a fucking joke and its only purpose is to stall out a lane or enemy entry point, nothing more. Replace with Vibrava if you can, fantastic synergy with Shuppet.
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>want to open locked booster
>0/10 key fraggys
>drop from over 2600 to 2495 in the process
>goomy
>marill
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ability and figure idea i have been thinking about

>"Speed Boost"
>For every turn this Pokemon doesn't interact with anything, it gains a +1MP that can be stacked two times. Maximum total of MP is 3.
>meant to be used with 1MP Blaziken
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>>32503073
>>32503108
>>32503191
>>32503194
>>32503534
So which is it?
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>>32505079
WHIMSICOTT IS SHIT BUT FILLS A NICHE BY STALLING OPPONENT BATTLES BECAUSE OF IT'S HIGH UTILITY OF NOT BEING DESTROYED INSTANTANEOUSLY BECAUSE OF COTTON GUARD
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Are the new figures worth it?
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>League match
>25 seconds on my clock
>run my Shuppet from the bench to next to the opponents goal to wake up my sleeping Crobat (from the farthest route)
>Wake up Crobat
>travel past Crobat and opponents figure
>surround it and figure is out
>Opponent has 2 minutes on the clock
>sits there while a minute and 55 seconds pass
>makes a move with his Empoleon that can't touch me
>take his point

HAHAHAHA
CrGames you FAGGOT
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>>32505595
Terrakion is way too fucking good for a 2MP figure
Cobalion is pretty good if your team has problems against Zapdos or Mew
Not to sure about Noivern just yet (despite being the only one of the three I have) but it looks like it can put in some work if you manage to evolve Noibat, which should be easy considering Noivern has a good matchup against Gyarados so either knocking out or Whirlwind-ing Magikarp is an easy Evo ticket
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How do I counter Deoxys-S?
I don't have goal block so when someone sends out Deo on the first turn I basically lose if he rolls dodge, and this is with me using double chance before fighting it.

Deo-S nerf when?
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>>32505766
Why are you attacking it?
Move a 3MP figure to where the Articuno is positioned in >>32505636. Now he can't capture the goal.
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Hey bros my phone got water damaged and I couldnt play for like 2 weeks, stopped visiting the a thread, missed entire water cup, can someone explain why Cosmo energy doesn't work half the time? What is this new bullshit? I'm glad it's nerfed but now I'm back to square one except all my opponents aren't.
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>>32505975
You could always read the fucking news
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>>32505835

>Hurdle Jump
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>>32505975
It now requires the Deos you want to swap to be on the field
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>>32505997
Over what? Deoxys-S shouldn't be touching any figures. Did you misunderstand what you're replying to?
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>>32506001
Thanks.

>>32505983
Why not try not being a cunt like this anon?

Also I just realised
>Water damaged phone
>Missed the water cup
Heh
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What are thoughts on running Genesect with its new plates? Magikarp is easy to banish, and the new steel energy can put Genesect at a low of 60 and high of 110, which on paper seems pretty acceptable. I'm theorying running 2x Shock, 1x Douse, 1x Flame, 1x Ice drives, 1x Steel energy. Would that be unplayable though? Does it rely too hard on the gamble? I'm thinking that any extra drives which are useless in a match could be used to throw Genesect into an opponent and try to pseudo double chance into techno charge for the potential remove.
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Heh
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Whats better, Cobalion or Terrakion?

My team is pic related, would most likely cut Nincada

Mew destroys Noibat, but once it evolves the gold nullifier makes him Cobalion anyway
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>>32505595
i'm using terrakion and it's just amazing, it will make your opponent think twice before attacking it with sceptile since it turns it's wheel into a a weak yellow, a huge miss and a white attack that he needs to roll twice or his sceptile dies, the same with mew, which make it just an amazing figure to have for league matches
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>>32506231
Cobalion skill is nice, but if it isn't fighting mew or zapdos it's just meh.
Terrakion has a 120 dmg attack that can fuck up a lot of things and turning dodges into miss is such and amazing ability that makes it a pretty great figure
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>>32506288
Yeah, makes sense, Ill buy Terrakion
Also, are people maxing Stone edge?
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>>32506061
Too unpredictable outside of gyms, I wouldn't risk it.
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>>32506331
why wouldn't you?
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>>32502450
3MP Terrakion won't dare touch the mighty Bronzor
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If you have 2 Dialga will they both prevent each other from being unbenched?
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Not sure if this was mentioned in the patch notes but plates can now be canceled
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>>32506936
>mew will surround
>use goal block anyway
What was the next step in your master plan?
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>>32506955
>>32506936
I stole this off reddit
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do you guys have tips for a newfag? like, what to save, how to spend gems...
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>>32507429
save all EXs and R figures, they can get buffed in the future, spend gems in the beginer sextuples if you still can buy them, if not, buy quads when they have a figure you like, never buy one box alone or duals, its not worth. If you are in low rank 1500-2300, i recomed you to use materials (450 blue gems i think) to get a shupet for the cheese wins, it will work wonders in dat rank
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>>32507462
ok, thanks. is anywhere a tier list for the figures?
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>>32507777
Here's a rough list, doesnt include the new patch, but Terrakion is probably S and combalion, A
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>>32507958
>Ho-oh in S
>Greninja in A
>Tao in A
>Trevenant that high
You know what, I was going to meme arrow all these shitty evaluations but I'd be listing almost half the choices here
This is a bad tier list and whoever made this should feel bad

It looks nice though
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>>32507976
This list was for the previous patch and all new figs for that banner were estimates

Ive updated it now though, pic related

I agree with Toa dragons not being that high and it was discussed last time I posted it. why dont you think Hooh is S or Gren isnt A though?
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>>32507995
Snorlax needs moving down
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>>32507958
Wouldn't "built around appropriately" mean Deo-D is in the same tier as Deo-S and A. If you're just evaluating them as individuals on good stuff teams where they have synergy, you should at least evaluate 'Cosmo Energy' as a separate entity, and 'd probablyl place it within A tier. Same with Manaphy and rain decks. Rain decks are definitely tier B+/A so Manaphy should be in that rank accordingly

Sorry for the autism, just a critique I guess. I plan to throw one of these together in my own time. Disagree with the separating of R and EX as well.
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>>32507995
I'd drop Rhyperior, Magmortar, Latias another tier. Maybe shift Dialga/Palkia/Aggron up one because of their buffs. Maybe.
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Should I be evolving Magmar into Magmortar or should I just start off with Magmortar? I've so far been using Magmar since clvl2 can kill mew and some other shit and 3-star flame gun is great, but it's been jobbing lately.
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>>32509607
One of the biggest reasons to run Magmar->Magmortar was to get the three star Flame Gun and beat Deoxys A's Dimensional Slip / Deoxys D's Psycho Barrier. Now that Deoxys A has a three star D'S, I'd say it's up to you to determine whether three stars is important for you or not. Personally I think the 10 damage and extra star are unnecessary; I would want Magmortar to be on the field threatening double kills asap.
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>>32509743
I should add that 70 used to be a popular number to hit as well vs figures like Lucario, Gardevoir, and others, but now it's a pretty moot point. Power creep has made it such that anything sub 100 needs to be 3mp to even be considered. So you're running Magmortar entirely for Flame Gun, and the extra 10 damage isn't going to matter in 9 out of 10 games.
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>3 gold boxes
I fucking hate these things so god damn much
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>>32509957
Really? Most of my EXs seem to be from those.
>3 blue boosters
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>>32509957
>>32509986
Better than orange.
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>>32509986
Golds take half a day, and unlike rainbows you aren't even guaranteed a rare. I'd rather have 3 blues, since they'd all be done before even one gold is, and I could get new boxes
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>don't have anything to counter anything
>whales and luckfags already playing with their new toys
guess i quit
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>>32510402
Buy a Deoxys-A and get it to clvl2. You just need to play a lot. I got above 2600 with only Deoxy-A and Magmortar- guess it's still pleb tier but it's alright
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>>32510461
I'm actually at 2700, it's just that the power creep is anally pounding my ass because I was too late to get the birds of healthy meta and too early to get a grass team.
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>>32510402
I've been playing catch up forever.

I get above a quad worth of gems around every two weeks by doing the daily missions and maybe 1/5th of special wheels, but you can guess what the odds of an EX from one quad are.
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Why couldn't Noivern's Hurricane be just like Lugia's, it'd be a much better Gyarados if it was
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I got a bunch of ex with no synergy between em. Should I save gems for an eventual 6 pack or just open quads ?
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Will 2 heatrans be good for this gym or should I just CLv 1?
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>>32511433
depends on what other figures you have. if you have 5 other good figs i'd fuse
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Is this thread dead ?
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>>32511808

no GYM, not much to do
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>>32511857
Isn't this the time to farm boxes and hoard gems to get new toys ?
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How's Genesect now with the new EX Drives? Just got one from a rainbow booster and I've honestly been thinking of switching Mew out for a new 3MP figure since it hasn't really been doing well lately and this last figure update just made it worse.
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>>32512243
Old drives are now shit
New EX drives are for gem abundant whales
Still not worth it as the chances of removing a figure are still slim.
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>>32510461
>get it to clv2

You act like that shit is easy. Either get more deoxys or get lucky with 2 of those green box shit
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>>32513151
get a deoxys and two joltik. easy lol
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Is now a good time to spend my 6 booster tickets? Stopped playing at start of grass gym and thinking about playing again. I have Rhypherior.
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>>32513746
Sure, you could get lucky and pull a Terrakion
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Ho-Oh is fucking cancer, they need to change its fucking bullshit ability to only work if it's attacked, not if it's attacking
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>>32514260
It also shouldn't activate when surrounded.
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>>32514260
>>32514659
t. Sub 2000 shitters
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>>32514713
Yes, because infinite 5v4 s are always fun
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>>32514770
Learn how and when to attack or defend.
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>tfw you get lucky and the opponent figures drop like flies
i feel alive
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>x10
GRENINJA WHAT THE FUCK
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How do we fix the snowballing in this game, it's fucking ridiculous
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>>32515185
You stop playing.
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vroom vroom
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WHERE THE FUCK IS MY GODDAMN SCIZOR
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>>32517276
>wanting worst bug/steel type
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After 3 weeks I'm finally going to be in masters
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>>32517339
>worst bug/steel type

Say that to his fucking face
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Can this be the OP image for the next general?
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You fucks lied about the timer
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Anyone up for a room match? Bring out your meme teams if you want.

Name: Helios
Key: 052
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Why haven't they removed AI tickets yet? they are worthless
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>>32518890
If I'm not sure what course of action to take, I'll let Carlo meme his way to victory for 3 turns
I've seen that little bastard do things I would never even dream of doing and actually succeeding
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>>32518914
To be honest I've never let him do anything, might give him a chance sometime
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>>32517457
The climb to masters using meme figures is the best part of the game.

After that battles get long and drawn out, most people use the same overpowered shit.
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>>32517472
>Scizor
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>it's a latios/deoxys-s rush deck
>it's a deoxys-s/shuppet swap spot deck
>it's a shuppet is in the middle of the other side episode
here's your free lose pal thanks for the rank up
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What the fuck how did I go from having coins out the arsehole to having none?
Do they vanish if you don't play daily (I was out for two weeks)? What is this bullshit?
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>>32520364
Cost of coins increase depending on the rarity and level of the figure you're trying to level up

Here I have a Lv.1 Reshiram, a Lv.4 Trevenant, and a Lv.4 Leafeon with a common figure priced at 299, 1036, and 791 respectively. It's the reason why you should never use EX Rare Metals on Lv.4 figures because it's really fucking expensive
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>Get the bonus wheel 3 times
>2 Booster Tickets and 30 gems
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>>32520444
Well shit that explains it.

Also I stated using gold material in fusions because I had so much. Guess that's what I get.
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>>32519961
I'll whoop your ass kid
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>>32520779
W E W
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Uh guys what the fuck? I was playing against a Japanese player and he gets down to 5 seconds and I'm at 41. When I pass his timer doesn't go down at all then it says I'm connecting to the game. When I reconnect it says the other player is connecting now. When they reconnect the game says I lose. What kind of fucking bullshit is that?
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>>32523525
the closer you are to the nip server plus how much money you spent gives more chances that you can make your opponent disconnect
Jewish tricks, son.
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I entered a fucking match against some guy with the basic pokemon's (squirtle, charmander, etc) And I lost after I did my first move, what the fuck?
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>>32524682
if the opponent has lower rarity rank pokemon their spinners are set to be rigged to get the best match ups
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>>32524740
No, he straight out won, like he didn't even move a piece, he just won, not a forfeitwin, not a waitwin, the goal win
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>>32524783
oh it's the new jailbreak exclusive hack
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>>32525489
That's fucking insane I WANT IT
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>Open box
>Don't even really care about the game anymore
>As soon at it opens tap back to skip the animation
>It was a rainbow shine
>Go check my figures
>No new figures

Welp
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>>32525808
Was it an EX Cube? Boxes glow rainbow for those too
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>>32525929
Nope, no ex cube either
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Do you get angry when you lose to a shitty meme team?
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>>32525943

Check your messages, figures and plates will go there of your collection is full.
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Drew up some fig ideas

Dugtrio
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Porygon Z
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Miltank

Heres an implementation of Rollout, where Rollout is a marker kinda like Dark Mist.
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>>32526143
It annoys me that chart looks like a Master Ball, but doesn't quite match the design.
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Donphan

Also using Rollout. I think I screwed this up. A fair Donphan should have a Rollout with AP=70
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Sableye

An ability like Gastly's Gaseous Form, that pervents it from getting surrounded + Dig.
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Nosepass

Only purple and blue moves, and ability prevents it from moving sideways.
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>>32526369
>Poison
I would think a wheel like that would have to be on a 0MP like Kakuna
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>>32526421

> 0MP like Kakuna

But then it would just plop down on the entry? With its ability, it could never win, since it could next move sideways to the opponents goal.

>Poison
Oops, it was supposed to just Rock
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Is there anything I could change or improve? I'm about 30 points away from masters. Other notable figures I have are Moltres, Articuno, Leafeon, Shuppet, Lucario, Greninja, and Grovyle. I'm saving up my material for either sceptile or terrakion. I also really want heatran.
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>>32526724
>Zapdos

He is the biggest jobber, poor thing.
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>>32526724
I'd get rid of switch and scoop up for 2x double chance

That plate is a necesity with deo-a
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>>32526749
I fucking know, idk why people keep saying zappy is such hot shit. It is literally the worst, I feel so bad i was convinced to craft it. But I have it so I might as well use it.
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>>32526724
Trash Mew get Moltres
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>>32526785
Thanks, I'll give that a try. I rarely ever use those plates. They are just placeholders until I get double chances
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>>32526829
Isn't it bad to not have any 3mp figures? I've been noticing mew hasn't been doing to well though, it gets completely stopped by empoleon and articuno
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>>32526833
You get Double Chance from a training mission and as a quest reward.
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>>32526855
Zapdos can easily do Mew's job, sure you may get bumrushed but at least you can kill Purples.
For every match I was in, I'd say there is 1 Zapdos out of 20 that lands on Steel Wing.
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>>32526749
>>32526821
>Zapdos used to be THE premier figure to have
>still a somewhat necessary figure just because of sub-90 attack purple figures Mew can't handle, despite being shit nowadays against everything else
>its miss wheel is huge compared to some of the newer figures
>Paralysis is almost useless unless you run a team with Jolteon and Galvantula

The Miss needs to be split up, Roost size decreased and reduced to Wait 2, and Thunder Crash increased in size. Zapdos is good again
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>>32526868
Oh shit I'll get right on that then and drop the goal block
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>>32524740

This can't be true
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>>32526724
change the plates like >>32526785 said, with dat team you can get to masters really fucking easy
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>>32526878
When 2400 gives advice
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>>32527474
What's your rank if you're so good pal?
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>>32527503
1659
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Made it to masters! Thanks for the help. Carlo is a fucking pro
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>game gets stuck on the wheel with connections issues
>say they're on my end
>check my internet
>it's fine
>close the app and re-open
>logs in just fine
>suspended duel comes up
>click yes
>gets stuck loading
>repeat everything
>it's still happening
Fix the game you shit devs
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>>32528113
No. Shuddup. I want free apology jewels.
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Can you guys help me building something that can net me more wins than losses ? I'm running Twin Dragons with Leafeon, Ho-oh, Empoleon and Moltres. I'm stuck at 2300 with this team.
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>>32528146
damn why does everyone have a moltres
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>>32528146
>No good gold attackers
Try to save up to craft Mew. Until then, I'd run Moltres, Heatran, Deo-A, Ho-Oh, Leafeon, Whimsicott/whatever EX you want.
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>>32528319
Fug at MP1 makes me wanna cry. Why it can't be 2mp or hit at least 80 with white attack ?
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>>32528342
Just fight another Fug, brah
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>youtuber spends $80 on the new banner and only pulls 2 EXs he doesn't want

always funny to see
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>>32528677
sauce?
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>>32528677
I did this but I got 5 EX's I didnt want

got enough mats to buy Terrakion though
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>>32528146

Moltres
Heatran
Deoxys-A
Empoleon
Palkia
Leafeon

Thats your team. It would help if you had another 3 MP tho. So maybe Palkia should be Shuppet
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>>32529397
i wouldnt use dialga, its not dat good, and put fug for the gold atack
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>15 gems away from a quad
>log in
>"Wahaha!"
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I have over 5000 material, what should i mspend it on ?
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>>32531057
Mew or Zapdos if you don't have them. If you do, Sceptile seems really effective.
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>>32531057
There should be a flowchart or something at this point.
>Do you have Mew/Zapdos
>If Y proceed to "Do you want to rape blue or white?"
>If N: Buy Mew or Zapdos, probably both if able
>Do you want to rape blue or white?
>If W: Buy Sceptile
>If B: Buy Terrakion
>If Both: Buy Terrakion
Once you have those 4 figures it seems kind of like everything else is only necessary if you're looking to build a specific energy team.
With the next gym likely being Rock/Steel, I'd recommend Terrakion.
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>>32531270
What about Cobalion? I didn't luckfag hard enough and pulled him instead and it stops mew, greninja, and zapdos dead in their tracks
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>>32530629
>"ENJOY THE POWER OF AI"
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>>32531713
Not worth 4k mats unless you want to build a specific team around its ability

All of those Pokemon you listed already had counters.
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>>32529397
I'll try this.

>>32530519
I miss some gold attacker too, but fug is so unreliable.

which plates ? Goal block, 2 x attack, 2 double chance ?
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So I just started playing and I have two questions

1.what is the point of connecting an evolution chain? Like I have aron and it's Evo, but why would I use aron equipped with his Evo instead of just the Evo?

2. When I click the big yellow PLAY button on the home screen I'm playing vs computers yes?
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>>32531881
Evolving makes the attacks stronger by 10 and purples gain an additional star. It's really helpful for some figures, like Gyarados who also get speed boost. Blastoise also appreciates it since it makes mirror coat actually kill 2*s. For something like Aron and Lairion it's not very important since the 10 damage isn't a big deal.
When you click play you're playing against real people unless it's your first game in a day or so and you play darkbot, or you've lost 3 times in a row and you play bugbot.
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>>32531881
1. Evolution isn't worth it most of the time, but some evolutions work really well, especially with Mew and Magikarp being evolution bait.
Then there's figures like Grovyle who are pretty good figures on their own AND have a good chance of evolving.
Noibat seems to be gaining a lot of traction lately due to being able to get rid of figures via Whirlwind or threatening a Supersonic against figures with multiple Misses like Heatran and Gyarados
2. For now until you reach a certain ranking. 1500 I think
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>>32531881
Some things become monsterous when evolved. ie:Greninja

You start off against computer derps till you hit 1500 rank. Then you'll be playing against human derps.

>>32531868
Goal block is a waste of 2 plate slots assuming you are capable of thinking ahead and your deck isn't just 1 and 2 mp figs. Almost everyone runs Hurdle Jump for a reason. Consider Scoop Up if you have one. It works well for setting surround traps and acts as a pseudo Full Heal and Goal Block. Has additional synergies with Empoleon as well.
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>>32531945
>>32531939
>>32531930

Thanks guys, I knew I was winning to easily for it to be real players.

One more question, when you first go to the feild a little symbol appears (once seen a building and some kinda water tribe symbol) do these effect anything or?

And why is confusion so fucking broken? I'm so glad I got a spinda
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>>32531945
Wouldn't steel energy work in this deck with empoleon, heatran and maybe dialga ?

I'll try scoop up and maybe switch along.
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>Play league match
>Opponent has the consecutive win streak music
>Has all EX team, including Latios, and the Resh+Zek duo
>Play Crobat
>Gets killed by his Mew
>Play Sceptile
>He moves onto my entry point
>Back track Sceptile and kill Mew
>Plays Chesnaught
>Send in Shuppet
>Chesnaught attacks Shuppet
>He misses
>Take his entry point
>Can't reach neither his goal nor my Shuppet
>He forfeits
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>>32532017
Its just the logo of the specific venue you're playing on
Trainer League = Hotel Ulex
Leader League = Hotel Atlantis
Elite League = Hotel Elysium

Champion through Great have unnamed Hotels and we can probably assume Master League is Jewel Tower
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>>32532071
Champion through Ultra*
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>>32532035
I'd like Steel Energy more if it effected all of their attacks. That said Empoleon hits 100 which is pretty good for it and Dialga hits 140 which beats Deo-A. I don't think Heatran going to 120 does a whole lot for it. I guess it beats Moltres raw now but you already had a pretty strong chance of burning and beating it anyways. Feel free to test it out and see if it works for you. I'd run it if poison was more common but you don't see Crobat+Venusaur much.
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Help me make a deck
1/2
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2/2
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>>32532237
Leafeon
Whimsicott
Pikachu-R
Squirtle
Mawile
Kabuto
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>>32532088
Thanks a lot for the input. Btw, What's the thought on Ho-oh ? I love to be able to play 5x4 on longer matches.
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>>32532237
Lilligant
Whimsicot
Kabuto
2x Spinda
Cacnea
could be a fun little confusion deck.
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>>32532339
Love him. I've won a lot of games with him Fire Blasting and Rainbow Winging into my opponents goal. He really has no business having a 100 power attack for how strong his ability is. As you stated getting the 5vs4 on the opponent is great too.
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Made it into Great karenfagging, soon I will be in Master and that faggot who told me that karenfagging would never let me win is going to shit his pants
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>>32532578
what's your karenfag team ?
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>>32532624
/myguys/
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>>32532667
>That Rainbow Time Booster
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>>32532667
btw, good luck on your climb!
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>>32532686
thanks man, I will do my best
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>>32532237
Lilligant
Leafeon
Whimsicott
Kabuto
Pikachu-R
Squirtle
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>>32532578
>tfw I remember telling you that

Good luck on your laddering tho. You could potentially make it to master if you're good enough but it would be hard to make a dent in the meta and climb to 2700, 3000, etc without a proper team or at least a viable one, that's all I'm really saying u feel me senpai
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>>32532821
I know man, It is mostly a joke, It feels really good when for example a C figure like rhydon manages to defeat an EX figure, time will tell if my shit team manages to fight against the big boys
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>>32528342
>>32528424
>>32528424

Fug??
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>>32534007
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>>32534007
Reddit fag
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>>32534007
buff fug
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