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Pokemon Clover: Oreo Edition

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We needed a new thread, so why not.

Pokémon Clover is a QUALITY romhack featuring a brand new region called Fochun, as well as 386 fresh new fakemons that puts Quartz to shame! Clover has been an ongoing project for a team comprised together from anonymous posters on the /vp/ board. Started in 2015 as a janky FireRed rehash, it has since become a complete ROM overhaul featuring new maps, characters, story, and a completely original soundtrack.

DOWNLOAD HERE:
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gl/
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Apply to the "1636 - Pokemon Firered (U)(Squirrels)" base rom.
Changelog:
http://pastebin.com/ZqRfPUFN (embed)

Doc (for mon info):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IkewXRcMI7PzBgm1HnN-8oUrhtebyiiBf0-KBWXI9PU/edit?usp=sharing

FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/DbQv3PS2 (embed)

Wiki (Needs lots of help!):
http://pgenvp.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

BOORU:
pokeclover.booru.org
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dex
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Bepsi.
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Where do you get preasu or undastand? Is it WT only?
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>>32094612
obligatory
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>>32094611
here's your cookie
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4th for fix Potarded movepool REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(such as Leech Seed, Iron Head, Play Rough, Rock moves other than Rock Tomb). Pseudo legend that learns 3 or 4 offensive moves worth using. In other words, shit
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What's the deal with Biteki?
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>>32094666
he's not bi, satan.
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More Kymmi when
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>>32094625
not implemented yet
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>>32094660
>to intelligent too learn more offensive moves
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>>32094734
>too inteligent not to know that knowledge is power, therefore hitting them with your iron hard knowledge is very good idea
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How does Chanolour learns Meteor Mash? My clovour is lvl 31 now and I don't know if I should evolve it
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>>32094880
Level 36 iirc
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>>32094955
Thanks
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Potarded ability: Oblivious
Why would you give so intelligent Pokémon such a bullshit ability?
> Unaware
> Simple
> Serene Grace
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>>32094611
>Old changelog
>Didn't link OST
You God damn Potarded
NEXT THREAD COPY PASTE THIS SHIT:
http://pastebin.com/SrpsPxGk
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>>32095106
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>>32095072
>Not in the ROM
>Not in the ROM
>Makes no sense
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>>32095106
the music's in the doc, you can find it easily
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>>32094652
Why is this shitty image posted in every thread?
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How do you get the cellar key
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>>32095149
That just just has a bunch of outdated/unused songs. Also
>Didn't link the new thread in the old one
I'm about to explode on your ass.
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>>32095157
until nintendo's bankruptcy
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>>32095128
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>>32094652
>snoopines
my sides
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r34 of wifemin when
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>>32095135
>Not in the ROM
How come some gen IV/V abilities ARE in the ROM ?
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>>32095265
sex appeal mon sure.
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>>32095266
because people programmed them
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Clover Sets - http://pastebin.com/rJsi3sWP

EV Training - http://pastebin.com/AvVY0CfF

If you have any sets that aren't in there or any better EV training locations feel free to suggest them.
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>>32095174
Explosion sucks anyway. :^)
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>>32095171
It's a prize in the jew casino.
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Can I show some love to whoever created Keksandra's battle theme? That's my shit right there.
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here's some neat fanart from tumblr
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neat
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Whoops, i meant the sewer key, i cant seem to find which house its in
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>the mozzamazel revolution is back
About damn time
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>>32095214
That doesnt even make sense
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>>32095406
It's in the residential building where you saw the little girl sad her dad's not home.
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>>32095391
>>32095393
Sauce perhaps?
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>>32095444
Nice numbers
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>>32094611
>QUALITY
do you mean SHIT QUALITY
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>>32095556
Come on Carlos you can do better than that.
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>>32095556
That wasn't even a pun, Carlos.
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>>32094611
I got a Walruse in WT.

Is it any good? I need a water a good water type.

I started off this run with Grasshole, but I hate Rectreem's design so I switch him out for Krokizon.

What are some of the best water types in this game? There honestly don't seem to be many.
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>>32096432
Yeah there arent many water types. Walruse gets belly drum and aqua jet. Other water types are manatank, octai, mimimie, baitmaster, bait master, mabster, semdemen when it is evolved some other stuff from wonder trade like gnarrk, condoom
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can someone tell me how to add the two files together to make the game playable?
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Are Warudio and Senketula obtainable in the game yet?
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>>32096833
Google is your friend. Third result; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X8iTdRzLMo&ab_channel=FantasyAnime
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How about a Pokemon that can change its body to multiple Kanji characters to simulate speech.

>tfw the region of fochun is actually a Chinese name "福春".
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>>32094612
Water starter design sucks dick compared to the other two. Replace it.
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>>32096914
only through wonder trade
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How do I get Lankong?
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>>32097095
It is not in the game.
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>>32097045
And how do I get wondertrade to show up? I have the save file as 128k.

Thank you for your help.
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>>32097127
It should be available some time near or after the first gym on the second floor of any pokemon center. There should initially be a guy that tells you about it at some point.
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>>32097150
I'm at beehive and the lady isn't in the center. I never bothered with it before.
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>>32097175
You never went to the top floor of Gadech's center, that's probably where you activate it. Just Fly back there to do it.
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>>32097647
Thanks
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>>32094688
Very fuckable.
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I know somebody said it in the last thread but which one is the only roaming legendary again?
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>>32098253
Evacycle
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Please change TM 43 Rock Climb into Rock Slide
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>>32098316
Nope sorry, it's going to be important later.
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>>32098379
What's papyrus supposed to be?
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>>32098394
Spookscare
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Got myself a embaby over WT, anything to note about it?

yes I am new
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>>32098464
Embortion? I think it learns a lot of defensive moves like screens/barrier/fake tears and it has only one weakness, so if you need a wall go for it.
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Please switch Sprucifix's Attack and Sp. Attack
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>>32098394
Pelbutton
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>>32098501
Why?
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>>32098588
Because miracles are special, and I rather have strong Giga Drain than Power Miss.
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Please switch all of blobbis' stats with those of Skull Greymon
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I see that the dex is incomplete when you use something to see them all.
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Nice touch on Adesign's cry
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>>32098840
Yes, not all the mons are inserted yet.
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>>32095171
one of the buildings in the anime city
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>>32098840
Yes. The game is still a demo and some of them (Admoot) lack proper sprites. Just wait for the finished game.
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>>32098866
>fucking microsoft sam
sure
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>>32098915
that's not microsoft sam, it's le ruse bird
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>>32096432

The only good water type I've come across are Manatank and Sjwhale. The former is better than the latter.
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Is Corooster any good/ have any good sets?
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>>32099304
Cooroster is BRAVEST BIRD 2: FRIED BUGALOO
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>>32099304
There's a set in the one pastebin but obviously it's only good with gen 6 gale wings mechanics
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blametruth making a live twitch of Clover right now
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yeah penis
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>>32099690
>not cringy at all
Finally. Someone who isn't a retard playing this shit.
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>>32094611
Where can I download the source code to pokemon clover? Do you all have a github or something I can look at the code on?
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>normal quails are dangerous because of their diseases
>somehow a 5'07" tall humanoid one is totally ok
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>>32099940
Caroline is a pure, christian quail and would never do such things.
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>>32100257
*atheist
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dear jeebus is it actually impossible to get past the second skeleton on floor 3 in the tower? there doesn't seem to be enough time to walk past before it turns around and spooks me good
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>>32100351
It can only see one square in front of it. Walk, don't run, that way it doesn't turn to meet you.
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Current issues noticed after playing through at sanic speed, because fuck it, I may as well put them here

>caught jewipede, the sprite stuck around, but trying to click on it crashes the game
>the karma sewer base, 3rd floor in the spinner room, you can walk out of bounds through the right half of the lower wall, and either end up in the room with the beds or stuck against a wall (was it intentional that 90% of the walls in the hack function as spinner tiles if you walk over them? if so, fuck you, that was to smart for me)
>turning in fossils doesn't remove the fossil from your bag. Upside, infinite toxiraptors, downside, no turning in the claw fossil ever
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>>32100383
seems like it can see as soon as it turns but i'll keep trying
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>>32100345
*Drumpft supporter
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>>32100398
yeah pretty sure that's not just one square in front
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>>32100389
Two of those have already been fixed, please update to the most recent patch. Thanks for reporting the middle one though, that one hasn't been documented yet.
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Is there any guide on patching the game without having to reset my save data
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>>32100502
Simply apply the patch to your game with Lunar ips.
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>>32100451
Oh, that one. Start running two squares away instead of one.
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>>32100537
You're a lifesaver, my guy
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>>32100514
other anon, but do I apply the new patch to the old patched game? Like, when I patched Clover the first time to get it running, it became a new file, so do I patch the new Clover download onto the Clover file? Or the original FireRed rom?
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>>32100613
No, patch it to the original FireRed ROM every time. As long as it has the same name as the previous ROM your save will work with it.
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>>32100637
Awesome, thank you
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Is it just me or Ejacasm has a disadvantage in the tutorial battle?
He doesn't have enough speed to outspeed Grasshole and Grasshole spam tackle, so we can't use String Shot.
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Also, why Flash 128k for the save type?
It doesn't exist in the 3DS GBA footer generator :x
All I have for Flash is Flash 512k kbit
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>>32100846
I forgot I had a potion. Disregard this question.
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>>32100846
>>32100975
>Losing at the tutorial Battle
This might not be the Romhack for you.
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Rolling diobat for about 12 hours now, Anybody made a rarity chart for the WT yet?
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>>32101120
It's in the doc.
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>>32101204
Right, thanks homie.
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Why is Tunking fire/psychic?
Shouldn't be there 4 of them? Fire/Ground/Water/Flying?
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Uhhh I'm just walking into the Rock Tunnel, and since the fight with Fucking Dick or whoever surprised me at the entrance, I've had a constant high-pitched buzzing noise ruining all my music.

Anyone else run into this or have a fix for it? It'd be a shame to have to mute this game, I'm loving the OST
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>>32101269
Just restart the game mang
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Where is the name rater?
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>>32101601
beehive
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>give vandash shit hp and defenses
There should be an alternative evolution or another black Pokémon bulky enough to be a great thief user in-game. Maybe based on giga nigga or something.
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Pikotton's shiny sprite should be pink instead of green
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Why can't Embortion learn thief?
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>>32101746
Because it wouldn't be able to steal what it really wants... the love from its parents
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>>32101746
>checks doc
>can't even learn it as an egg move
It's true. I think it should learn it.
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Is it me or is Armowite actually kinda good? I always thought he was just a shitmon but he's got decent bulk and attack + a solid movepool. Still probably gonna replace him for Isissin though
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I wanna use senketula cuz I'm a klk faggot but it's kinda lackluster. Any good sets for this mon ?
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any reason to not evolve hazmate into ebolable?
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>>32095393
>Tumblr art of clover

What sort of fucking bizarro dimension have I stepped into
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Do I have to beat the Beehive Gym to continue with memes inc.? I can't find that keycard anywhere.
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>>32102203
The fact that Hazmate doesn't evolve into Ebolable seems like a compelling reason if you ask me.
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Did you know?
Oreos are vegan, but Oreon can still learn Lactose Shot.
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>>32100999
the tutorial battle always was and still is luck-based in every single Pokémon game
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>>32102532
Found the vegan
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>>32102227
I beat the gym before finding the key card, but I think you can do them in any order.
You must talk to a hiker in the multi-story building next to Memes Inc.; he will give you an Old Key. You must then go to Animango and unlock the Capslock Prime building, the Key Card is in there.
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>>32102225
Didn't you know? 4chan is 90% redditors and tumblrinas now.
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>>32101698
>relying on Vandash to Thief
>not having all 6 of your mons have Thief over TM/HM moves that you can get back safely without fucking up movesets
>not going into bosses and Gym Leader battles with no items on all 6, just to steal every item the enemy mons have, cleaning them out effortlessly
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Alright what does the dildo do, and do I just go straight to Not-Giovanni after Ruse Cruse Part Duse
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>>32102009
Birdhouse is the same way. You expect him to be shit but he's bulky as fuck too. I notice there's a lot of bulky mons like that. Sjwhale, Birdhouse, Armowite, various Eviolite users, etc.
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>>32102019
Right in http://pastebin.com/rJsi3sWP
Ctrl + F Senk
>klk
>dbz

>>32102828
Yes. I think the shit with Kymmi is aftergame. I hope.
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>>32102839
I assume whatever's in the futaba chambers is also post-Gym?

Or is that what getting all the boardknowns accomplishes?
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>>32102225
One Pokétuber decided to play and most of his fanbase went XD
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>>32102877
Not sure, but there's probably two legendaries down there.
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bumo
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>>32104278
momo
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How do I call the ambulance? Kenye is dying here
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Is Clover actually decent or is it just le ebin /vp/ maymay game?
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>>32104467
yes
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>>32104467
Both.
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>>32102532
It's because you dip them in milk you dip
that's their whole thing
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>>32104467
Thread is full of redditfags/newfags/outsiders.
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>>32104467
Fuck man, I've severely underestimated 2B's popularity, she's everywhere. I really hope NIER doesn't become shitty waifu bait, it's making me nervous
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where do you go after beating the beehive gym
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>>32104653
Clear Memes Inc if you havn't already.
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>>32104666
I have
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>>32104671
South of parax then, if the fisherman are still there, you've not fully cleared Memes Inc
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>>32104674
I got to the main office and the kid ran away. what am I missing?
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>>32104730
There's one grunt left in the building, go find them and you should figure out the rest from there
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So is fighting Stump the only thing to do after the last gym at the moment?

I will say it was a fun ride. Certain parts dragged for a bit, and fuck sliding puzzles with a rusty length of wire, but otherwise solid work all around.
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>>32104467
second answer obviously
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>>32104467
Yes
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>>32094611
Where can I find the source code to your game? I want to make my own romhack and I think that I'll understand how to make one better if I compare the original FireRed code to yours.
>Minimum of request: Where I can find your source code (thank you!)
>If you're really feeling nice, but just source code is fine:
Where I can find the source code to your game and the version of Fire Red you based your code off of.

I'll understand if you don't have the source code available to disclose, but if you can, thank you so much.

If nothing else, can you link me to the original Fire Red source code?

Thanks much!
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>>32105327
There is no source code.
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>>32105442
>Is it a game?
Yes/no
>If game = true,
>There is source code
>else
>No
>var game = pokemonClover;
>var pokemoClover = true;
>function defineGame(){
> if (game === true){
> console.log("this is a game. It has source code. Stop being a retard.");
> } else {
> console.log("Ok. It's not a game, so it doesn't have source code");
> }
>defineGame(PokemonClover);

Output: this is a game. It has source code. Stop being a retard.

tl;dr It it's a video game, it has source code.
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@32105501
You clearly don't know what rom hacking is.
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>>32105327
>>32105442
>>32105501
>>32105561
all of these posts gave me autism
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>>32105501
Sure, the source code is in the ROM.
Just open with a hex editor :^)
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>dude source code lmao
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>>32095556
that's literally what "QUALITY" in all caps means
it means shit
how fucking new are all of you people
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IT FUCKING BOOMED.
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>>32105816
DAMN
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>>32105816
>not throwing Masta balls turn one

It's like you dont like instantly catching rare pokémon safely or something.
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>>32105953
what do masta balls even do?
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>>32105962
Catch every time
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>>32105962
Catch everything 100%
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>>32105997
>>32105974

...wait, i've had mons break out of them? we're talking about the knockoff ones right?
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Chantruth buff when? Its bst sould be the same as Ogrelord.
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>>32106010
during the next shemitah
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Traded away my exp share like a retard.
Is there anywhere to get another or do i have to git gud?
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>>32106041
git gud xDDD
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>>32106041
Ya fucked up, you retard.
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Flowre is so fucking annoying. What's the counter?
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Where can you find Drapillar other than the safari zone? I heard it was in the border hop cave but I couldn't find it.
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>>32106092
It's in the grass on the route before the border hop cave
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>>32106094
thanks
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>>32106083
Something faster than it with thief
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does clover have physical/special split?
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>>32106111
yes
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What's the location of all the HMs? and Dig?
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>>32106141
Flash is in Gadtech
Cut is on Singles island
Fly is in Beehive
Surf and Rock Smash are in the Safari zone
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>>32106141
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>>32106006
sheiiiiit
>>32106141
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it is possible to capture Spargle in this version?
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>>32106369
Wonder Trade
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Something weird just happened. I caught a Vandash in the safari zone and it was male in the battle but now it doesn't have a gender.

>>32106255
>>32106321
I don't get this meme.
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Hey guys. Im kinda new here. Just came from shofu's videos. Does anyone know how I can find him on this site? I believe he had a hand in making this game and I just want to talk to him about it.
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>>32106399
Sure dude, just go to one of the Showderp threads. I regularly champ there.
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>>32106382
OK, fags. New bug. Vandash loses its gender when caught. The second Vandash should be female.
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>>32106486
It just identifies as a non-binary gender you cis bigot
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>>32105578
ezeneca lol
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plush weather
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>>32106382
it's not a meme
you are a fucking dex leveling casul
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I just got this from wonder trade and it had great IVs but
>male
For what fucking purpose? Should I keep it?
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>>32106842
>worst JAV

I'd delete your save file and copy of the patch just to make sure it's gone.
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>>32106842
>Not catching all waifumons males to have a trap harem

>>32106899
Shit taste.
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>>32105953
I guess I'm not far enough for that
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>tentaquil
>sadfish
>dewloris
>oreon
>tentaquil
I only need one more mon for my totally original made by clover donut steal team
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>>32107205
farfignoogltron from the game corner
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>>32107244
Thanks
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>>32106486
Nidoran's index slot lmfaooooo
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He seems to be enjoying the game
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>>32107364
killing his own kind
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I found a new feature. When trying to teach Octai Thief it says it can't learn it even though it says otherwise in the doc.
I wonder what other Pokémon can't learn moves that should learn.
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>>32102225
Dude, so many artists have a tumblr now it's crazy.
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can i still submit fakemon? I can even make my own sprites.
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>>32106586
Did they finally fix castform ripoff's back sprites?
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>>32094611
Can you guys please increase the size of the bag and the item storage on PC? My bag is already full, together with my item storage on PC, its been like that since the 6-7 gym
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>>32107364
le ebin trump is a nazi mem
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>>32107483
Post them, I'd like to see even if they aren't accepting them anymore
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>>32107483
just make your own romhack with blackjack and hookers xddd
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>>32107613
NAH FORGET THE HOOKERS AND BLACKJACK AND THE ROM!!! Xdxdxdcdcxdxdcdcdcdc
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>>32107613
don't forget to fetch the source code first
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>>32105327
Download Advancemap and Xtreme Script Editor. A hex editor would be nice to have as well.
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>>32105501
This is the most autistic post I've read all day.
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>>32107579
>nazi
You mean the KKK there genius? He's got the grand wizards approval afterall. Don't forget he's /polsguy/
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>>32107793
>calling that post autistic
>>>/g/
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>>32107364
Came to post this, glad to know it's already here. My sides still hurt.
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>>32105501
If you can push a button and get some enjoyment out of it, it's a video game.
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>>32108329
Not even that. If you can interact with what is happening on a video, it's a video game. Whether it be through Button, Motion or Thought. and regardless of enjoyment
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>>32107819
David Duke is literally relevant for the sole reason so that everyone can call the republican front runner a racist every four years.
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>>32108413
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>>32107579
I wish he was :^(
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>>32094612
Why is semdrop and semrust so far away from semdemen in dex number?
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>>32108568
Cross-gen evo
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>>32108568
The dex is currently fucked,its pretty well known around here
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>>32108568
Because the dex grew at a much faster rate than the rest of the game
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>>32108568
>>32094612
Wait... Wait wait wait are some of these 4-length Evo chains?
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>>32108573
So they aren't going to fix it in an update?Sizes are an issue too.
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>>32108413
He never supported Bush. Bush denounced him as a racist charlatan. And the KKK is more relevant then you think these days.
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>>32108589
Semdemen's dex placement is intentional so no it won't get "fixed".
>>32108588
Split-evos.
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>>32094611
HOW EVOLVE MAYMAY?
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>>32108588
At some point I had a picture that listed them and the methods but I lost it. But basically every Pokemon from 228-234 evolve from an earlier Pokemon.
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>>32108589
It'll never be "fixed"
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>>32108610
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>>32108603
Level 23. Check the doc or the wiki even.
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This game is hard.
I have to cheese metrenome rolls.
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>>32108618
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>>32108664
Wait what is that?
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Go to Mountain Moot
Climb.
Moot is kill
F.
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>>32108618
>>32108673
dang there sure are a lot of these
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>>32108618
Thanks
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>>32108674
dracute is pure dragon
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>>32094652
What's his issue with nut jobber and wastenaut?
Also, the heck is dramasque?
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>>32108662
Where are you and what's your team? Assuming the first gym and you picked Arabomb
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>>32108691
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>>32108674
Rejected mon
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>>32095285
So then we just need someone to program simple and unaware.
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>>32095556
kek
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is anyone actually editing the wiki
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>>32108695
finished second gym.
Mt Clover
Singletts (Bullet Seed+Disable+Charge Beam)
Maymay (Fake out+Metrenome cheese)
Frieden (Once it evolves getting rid of it)
Analgae (Once it evolves getting rid of it)
Hosajack (Same)
Wedgard (Spikes and Rock Tomb)
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>>32108729
Yes though at a slow pace.
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>>32108709
But Dio already has two mon. What? I don't understand. In fact, I can't even tell which of my two questions you're trying to answer.
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Congrats to the Devs on being able to make me angry at video games for the first time since my boyhood. Tearing my hear out over Kanye. Why does everything past Beehive have spore in its moveset?
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>>32108734
The thing that is hard is that most trainers are about 4-5 levels over me, and hit like a tank.

Tumblrita actually had to be cheesed because of her fucking Sjwhale.
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>>32108751
Dude, he's a shitposter. He won't give you an actual answer.
>>
it would be nice if we could extract data from the ROM and use it to contribute to the wiki
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>>32108578
Should we fix? CAN we fix?
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>>32108734
>6 mon team
>Just finished second gym

There's your fucking problem, no wonder you're underleveled. Keep it at 2-3 for now
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>>32108436
What?
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>>32108754
Because the devs can't into balance. There's a reason no mons in the real games carry it, especially when there's no sleep clause
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>>32094611
How's the writing? I'm tired of really cringe romhacks.
Also, is balance decent?
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>>32108827
>>>32108754
man imagine if these mons could be used in pokemon showdown

everyone would freak out
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>>32108827
>>32108846
I guess that answer's my second question. Especially since I bet grass's immunity to powders isn't implemented.
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>>32108846
It's goofy in a charming way, not cringe

The balance is bad, but a lot better than it used to be with the latest patch, fixed a shitload of stuff.

Overall, I'd reccomend playing it, but you have to plan your run in advance because there's a lot of traps of bad game design you'll wind up falling into if you don't
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>>32108860
Idk, probably not. Sleep cause exists and they're not really fast, right? Unless I missed a fast sporemon. Tentaquil would cause Smogon a fucking aneurysm, though
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>>32108892
Toxiraptor can learn Spore
It's the fastest par Deathorus, but who gives a shit about Deathorus?
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>>32108865
>It's goofy in a charming way
not goofy anymore
still cringe anyways
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>>32108915
>Giving the second fastest Pokemon spore

Holy shit, what a fucking blunder. There's a reason that the fastest spore mon in the real game only has 75 speed
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>>32108940
why do all these Pokemon have Spore if they aren't even mushroom-related

like, I can understand Smoxilon for having it, cause that's its whole thing, but still
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>>32108949
Because muh diversity. A lot of mons have Volt Tackle despise not being Pikachu related.
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>>32108964
yeah but at least Volt Tackle doesn't have an as theme-specific name
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>>32108865
Mmm. I've been watching a lot on game design the last several years, can you name any specifics? If they're user-side rather than system-side I might be able to help.

As for balance, that'll probably work itself out in the wash as a competitive scene develops. With the added benefit of being able to patch mon/moves with nerfs or buffs to adjust them to where we want them, rather than just banning a non-mega starter to ubers or leaving legendary trio members to rot in PU.
>>
>>32108915

For Motherfuck it also makes sense considering the lore behind it
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>>32108729
Dude come on, I've done over 500 edits, I am just slow and lazy.
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>>32108964
>Tossing balance and quality out the window for the sake of diversity

I get giving balanced moves like aura sphere to more mons, but insanely broken moves like spore should only be given to shitty mons
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>>32094611
what the fuck is this
>>32094612
artwork / writing / coding: 12/10 amazing job, looks legit
concept: hands down worst thing i have ever seen
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>>32108729
I actively contribute to the wiki of things I like. I just have no knowledge of this game, thus cannot contribute.
>>
Fairileon is ugly! UGLY!
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>>32108618
I wish I knew Baitmaster used Sun Stone.I'll try using it on my next run.
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>>32108983
>If you miss the hidden flash HM in the first gym town, later on in the game you have to backtrack across half the region without fly to get it and return to rock tunnel
>Where to go next is often not even hinted at, leaving players lost and confused


Those are the main two non-Pokemon balancing issues that come to mind now that the whole wonder trade issue is fixed.
>>
man I can't wait til we can battle the elite four
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>>32108792
>Should you?
would be nice

>Can you?
Not sure,I know nothing about rom hacking
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>>32094612
>admoot

>tfw you attempt to hack moot and also you are pingu but also you michael rosen
time for moot
noot
noot
time for a noot
chroot
chroot
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>>32109002
I feel like a build point system might be good. Spend points on BST, ability, and moveset. Good stuff costs more. Box legends get high amounts of build points to spend in creation. Route1 rats and evolves at lvl10 bug, a lot less so.
TM costs slightly less than level up availability, egg less than tms, chain egg if we can measure that easily, more than normal egg.

Seems like a good solution. If I was building a randomizer that built pokemon from scratch and wanted it to be balanced I would implement that as a feature.
>>
>>32109086
I don't think you have to go to those lengths. Really all that is needed is to decrease distribution of broken moves. That being said both could be used but splitting up potential users would be meh. I remember there was a website called pokebattle or something like that that attempted to create a system using points, didn't work out too well.
>>
>>32109086
You sound like an idea guy that's never touched any sort of technology in his life and wants way too much out of the devs

Realistically and ideally they'd just take spore off those mon's movesets, no need for such a ridiculously difficult to balance system
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>>32109049
>Where to go next is often not even hinted at, leaving players lost and confused
I assume we don't want annoying hand-hold "rivals" that drag you everywhere which is how GF has taken to solving this issue.

So, going back to the older gen1-3 ways, have it come hidden in npc dialogue. If a person gives you a quest, make sure you can always go back and talk to them again to hear the instructions.
If there is no quest and it's just "find out what to do" then yeah, have your rival or one or two npcs on the main path in the previous area casually mention it in passing. Think Gary saying he's going north to Bill's house, or people in Caledon mentioning the game corner a lot, and one guy saying there was someone being suspiciously protective of one particular poster on the wall.
Makes the player go... huh I wonder what's up there I guess I'll explore.
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>>32109250
Yes, that's what I had in mind, subtle hints would be perfect.
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>>32109049
As for Flash.... is there a walkthrough anywhere so I can see exactly what's going on?
>>
I am having a helluva time finding all the jews in the basement of the gym on outcast island. I found 3 cages and the guy who says he's hiding. What am I missing???
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>>32109086
kill urself ma man
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>>32108940
Toxiraptor shares the same name as a Darkspore creature.
http://darksporegame.wikia.com/wiki/Toxiraptor
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Random observation - the Google doc says you can fish up Pollefin and Florigrace in Veepier Town using the good and super rod respectively, however I've ran into nothing but Tulure and Karawn instead. Is it possible to get Pollefin there?
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Guys, come on.
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>>32109127
I mean, this isn't a Dev team job. This is a community job, primarily for those good at competitive play.

They compile a list of what they think moves and abilities are generally worth, and a BST to BP ratio, build a couple things in each category range to figure out what BP they should all have, rebuild the mon from ground up using the originals as base but now accounting for BP costs, then hand the final, balanced version to the devs to implement.
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>>32109344
No one cares. Not everything is meant to be equal.
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>>32109283
No walkthrough. There's an old man hidden behind Brock's gym that gives you flash. You must get it or Rock Cave, a convoluted flash cave later in the game will either be a living hell or you'll have to teleport back to the first gym town, get flash and trudge through the entire game up until rock tunnel again for no reason
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>>32109344
I want you to know that's fucking stupid.
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>>32109278
I mean, yeah, I'm about to start a playthrough, should I just keep a record of any time I get lost then think up npc dialogue and location to help fix it? (Will need a guide of some sort to do so, is there a walkthrough?)

Also, do we have frequently asked questions, those should probably be the first I address.

Lastly, who do I submit these suggested fixes to for implementation? Or is this a DIY outfit, in which case how does one go about adding npcs and assigning dialogue?
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>>32109412
>do we have frequently asked questions
In the OP.
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>>32109398
waa
>>
i can just imagine a fochun region anime adaption

it would be hilarious
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>>32109359
This wouldn't make everything equal, it would make things we intend to be in similar tiers equal. It prevents things that are unintentionally too good or bad for what they're supposed to be.
Talonflame, for instance, which got promptly nerfed in the next patch equivalent. Route1 bird was not meant to be an ubers suspect. Similarly, i'm guessing Toxiraptor isn't either. But here it is, incredibly fast, with decent other stats, decent ability and move pool, and Spore. In a BP system, the builder would have ran out of points by then and realized he would need to sacrifice some things to get Toxiraptor back to a level he was intended for, or else advocate to everyone else that Toxiraptor be bumped up a tier or two.
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see you in the next bread
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>>32109421
I am stupid. Thank you friendo.
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>>32109011
shit taste
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>>32108754
>>32108827
>>32108860
>>32108892
>>32108915
>>32108987
>>32108862
>>32108940
>>32109294
Reminder mons with Spore are coded in the game to use it first turn for instaSleep. And if you Awakening/PoopFlute to get rid of it, the AI will use it instantly as well - so the only way to overcome it is to spam Fight and hope to break out of sleep via RNG, or rely on Insomnia.
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>>32109359
Clearly this player cared
>>32108754
>>32108940
>>32109002
Where there's one, there's usually more less vocal.

Do we want to make am enjoyable game people will fondly remember and continue playing, or a shit game with shit balance, that people drop in a few hours out of frustration and disgust and eventually fades into obscurity. There are plenty of the latter, if you really want to make that. One more won't hurt. Seems like an awful waste though.
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>>32109294
>Toxiraptor gets Spore because it shares the name of a creature in Darkspore
damn that's actually impressive

>tfw Darkspore shut down forever
>tfw Spore sequel will never happen
why live
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>>32109523
You're right, he actually got it backwards.
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>>32109546
or using Magic bounce, or Mirror coat or sap sipper. It's not that hard, really
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>>32109583
Sounds meta-centric.
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>>32109412
>who do I submit fixes to for implementation? Or, how does add npcs and assign dialogue?

Bumping
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Can't get into the safari zone, what are the requirements?
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>>32109570
naw. fuck off. Trusting /vp/ with balance is retarded.
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>>32109412
>in which case how does one go about adding npcs and assigning dialogue
The devs tried one time where they made a publiic doc for anons to add dialogue. That didn't work too well.
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>>32109316
I am using the art given to me. Ejacasm needs better art, so does a lot of clovermon. there is a few drawfags on here that help.
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>>32109842
I know, but I'd be better off not seeing that awful fucking Ejacasm. Why aren't we using sprites for placeholders?
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bump limit reached, where's the new thread?
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>>32109898
We could for Ejacasm and Analgae, but the problem is that the sprites on the doc all have a background. (Granted a lot of the sugi art does also), but to get clean sprites with transparent backgrounds would involve me either ripping them straight from the Rom itself, or downloading a tool that would let me clean up the sprites and add the transparent background. I will eventually, but for now I am just focusing on getting the data and adding in art where it's easy for me to add.
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>>32109940
You don't make a new thread until the page reaches page 10 in the catalog.
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>>32109940
/vp/ is not a fast board. Wait a bit.
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>>32109609
>bumping a thread with a bump limit reached
priceless
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I was permanently trapped by ghosts in Burial Tower. Then I tried to update my patch and reload and the screen was black and it crashed
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Fuck a new thread
>>32110586
>>32110586
>>32110586
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