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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLq9SfVJFk

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the Movie: I Choose You! [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k

Next episode:
>SM15 - Scratchmark Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!! [Feb 23rd]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM16 - A Tiny Trio on a Big Adventure!! [Mar 2nd]
>SM17 - Alola Detective Rotom! The Mystery of the Lost Crystal!! [Mar 9th]
>SM18 - I-Maji-ne?! Mao's Cooking Operation! [Mar 16th]
>SM19 - Intense Electric Shock Training! A Rematch with Kapu-Kokeko!! [Mar 23rd]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>31844032
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SM14 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_014_The_Fruit_of_Courage_Lilie_and_Rokon![H264_720P][191D68A6].mkv.torrent

XY&Z38 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_038_Kalos_League_Victory!_Satoshi's_Ultimate_Match!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][FC32602B].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Special_-_The_Legend_of_XYZ![H264_720P][A2FE050C].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 15 - SCRATCHMARK HILL, IWANKO AND LUGARUGAN!! (FEBRUARY 23RD)
>Satoshi and the others worry over Iwanko, who returned home full of injuries. It turns out that Iwanko has been training every night in order to get stronger. Satoshi and Pikachu decide to start training together with it!

>Summary:
>One night, Iwanko returns home covered in scratches. Satoshi and Professor Kukui were surprised by this, and they decide to use a camera to check what Iwanko does while everyone else are out. They excitedly watched the footage, and saw that Iwanko left the house and disappeared off somewhere! They hurry after it, and find...?!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Megumi Hayashibara: Iwanko
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Kenta Miyake: Bakugames
>Yuji Ueda: Lugarugan
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 72 (Feb 26th)

SM16 - A Tiny Trio on a Big Adventure!! (Mar 2nd)
>Satoshi and his friends are playing with their Pokémon on the beach. But when Mokuroh and Ashimari have fun by entering a balloon together, the balloon suddenly gets blown off somewhere with the two of them still inside. A wild Nyabby then appears before the lost duo. They somehow make it take them back to where they came from, but...

SM17 - Alola Detective Rotom! The Mystery of the Lost Crystal!! (Mar 9th)
>When Satoshi arrives at the Pokémon School, he notices that his Electric-Z has gone missing. Rotom approaches the panicking Satoshi, offering to help search for it. Rotom is crazy about crime shows, and says it wants to solve a mystery just like a detective does.

SM18 - I-Maji-ne?! Mao's Cooking Operation! (Mar 16th)

SM19 - Intense Electric Shock Training! A Rematch with Kapu-Kokeko!! (Mar 23rd)

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/6lUViAS6/file.html

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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I love Lillie
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>>31853246
calm down doggo
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Your boy When?
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>>31853239
>Lillie: SatoshiI
>Satoshi: Uwah!
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>>31853246
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Best couple
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Dawn best girl.
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Amour best ship.
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>this many autists hate the anime so much they spend this much of their time just spamming anime threads with garbage
wew
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>>31853313
Episode 40-60
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>>31853246
Someone who steals images, videos of Pokémon without paying copyright.
Someone unfair who makes money for the work of others (with fansub).
Somebody says has rights for an thread anonymously! and despise everyone, is an faggot
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>>31853398
>Best ship.
>They are not even in the same region anymore.
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>>31853398
it's not a ship if it's canon
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>>31853475
when will this meme end? amour is not canon
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>>31853475
It's probably canon, anon
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Here's a thought, let's stop all the fussing about who best and just post cute shit.
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>>31853513
It's not a meme just because you don't want to face the truth.
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>>31853527
>and just post cute shit.
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>>31853398
SerenaxSatoshi isn't a "ship" not Kanda
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>>31853527
Kill yourself.
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>>31853553
Sometimes to keep what you love, you need to test that love.
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>>31853527
kiss
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>>31853475
>it's canon
>>31853524
>It's probably canon
Only couples who are mutually in love and married are canon, like NaruHina for example, a one sided crush without resolution like the Serena one doesn't count.
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>>31853572
I'm already dead
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>>31853527
True ending, Brock&Misty
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>people are STILL this triggered
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>>31853579
At first I thought she headbutted him.
>>31853592
If she's okay with him never looking her in the eyes during
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>>31853588
The staff said they will be together in the future.
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>>31853398
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>>31853612
But Dawn was perfect for him?
Why didn't they choose her instead?
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>>31853612
It is a probability, but knowing this trashnime may be forgotten.
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>>31853612
>The staff said they will be together in the future.
That kind of things only matters in shows with a normal timeline, there's no future in this anime, Ash is a forever 10 years old kid.
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1 new SM stitch.
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>>31853651
>Dawn
>not Misty
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>two young boys reaching for some sausage

what did they mean by this?
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Did something happen last night to trigger all this autism?
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>>31853656
And Rica is a forever 48 years old woman..
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>>31853714
New Seiyuu. Money is more important
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>>31853612
In all the stories, the boy stays with the girl who have a close relationship, are happy together and love each other. For example: Satoshi&Serena, Naruto &Hinata, Mamoru&Usagi, more couples, etc.
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>>31853709
No. Just a bunch of shitposters discovering they were all active at the same time, I guess.
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>>31853709
Shippers living in a bubble made of fake hopes and dreams.
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>>31853591
Not dead enough, from the looks of it.

>>31853651
Because you touch yourself at night.
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>>31853723
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>>31853739
If only we could say the same of the mods...
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Serena is best girl and mahou shoujo
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>>31853835
>Serena is best girl

Yes.

>and mahou shoujo

I'm not so sure about that.
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Hau when?
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>>31853835
>Serena
>best mahou shoujo

That's not Eureka.
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>>31853851

Satoshi: The Magic guardian of Serena, who protects her and the pokémon

Serena.
Yes, Mahou Shoujo Original (Performance)
Also, She has Fairy Pokémon "Sylveon" is Magic.

Satoshi and Serena together save the Pokémon World.
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>>31853907
hahahaha
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>>31853898
Eureka is a sweet little girl.
She's not in training yet!, but some day he will become Shoujo!
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>>31853907
You are Wolfey from EEUU
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I support the anon (>>31853835 >>31853851
>>31853907) initiative, I always knew she is >best mahou shoujo!
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>>31853749
This is exactly what I like about Serena. How she outright murdered every single shipper that somehow thought it was safe inside its "t-there will never be romance in the anime!" bubble.

God tumblr tears were delicious.
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Daily reminder
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Find a flaw.
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>>31854049
>Romance
Simple crush
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>>31854099
>hurr let me blush for you and have my face turn red
jesus christ sidekicks are such a fucking mistake. why is that blonde haired faggot even in the scene?
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>>31854099
Everyone loves this!
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>>31854149
pls no bully onii-chan
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>>31854099
>>31854171
¡AMOUR CANON!
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>>31853835
You could at least try to post the long hair version but even when there is still Dawn and May who are better.
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This is Shin Li. Say something nice to her.
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>>31854266
A perfect taste for someone with an IQ of 77 like you.
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>>31854266
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These threads have gone to shit.

I'm leaving.
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>>31854266
Serena has made many changes in history and struggles to make her dreams come true with her Pokémon, also she is a better girl than May and Dawn.
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>>31854434
>These threads have gone to shit.
>have gone

mate...
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>>31854622
Her dreams mean nothing if she devalues herself as girl.
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>>31854622
Serena's a lewd idol girl. She's the waifu blondie whose desire is to be with a strong man. Gotta hand it to her though, she got exactly what she wanted.
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>>31854914
>Serena
>blondie
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>>31854914
If she wants to attract a real strong man she should keep her long hair.
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>>31854273
She's mine, that's what I say.
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>>31855455
DELETE
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I want to kill Lillie.
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>>31855815
Lusamine pls
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>>31853700
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>>31854837
Serena is willing to change for the better, determined to realize her dreams and more things in her life, and show us all her efforts, then Serena is a better woman always having and remembering all her feelings, happy and amour.
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Serena is just too sexy. You have to imagine what kind of bra and panties she's been wearing in every episode. She probably smells like pretty blonde girls do in real life.
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>>31853524
What's canon is the d*cks Serena's enjoying in Hoenn, that's her endgame after all
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>>31853612
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, the usual "staff confirmed they will be together" BS! Lemme guess: "hurr durr it was confirmed in the article hurr durr it's canon"
Ah okay, did you read the article? "No, I saw it on Youtube/Twitter"
Well then how about the Japanese one? "No"
Of course not, because you can't read Japanese, and guess what, I explained to at least 20 people about what was said in that article, but right now I don't know if I should explain it to you too and either get a positive outcome (like how the other amourshippers thanked me for the info) or get shitted on because you might not accept the truth. I'm going to sleep right now, lemme know if you wanna know what was really said in the article, I'll translate it word for word
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>>31853724
Oh? Ash loves Serena? Is thar a different version of the anime on another planet or something, cause I'm pretty sure Ash didn'r give a fuck about her
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>>31856099
>>31856208
>>31856225
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>>31856231
Correct, someone has to remind these autistic amourfags that they're living on false hope anon, thanks for the You's
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>>31856096
>le blonde meme
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>tfw Amour is canon confirmed by the staff
Not a surprise honestly, so far Serena has been Ash's only love interest.
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>>31856268
Autism
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>>31856268
Anon, you... didn't read the Japanese article... did you..
I have some bad news for you then...
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Are amourfags the new pokeshippers?
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>>31856327
Yes
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>>31856268
To be fair the confirmation wasn't even necessary

I mean, after Serena said that Ash was her goal and she would come back to him later, it was pretty clear what was what the staff decided, specially since this is a kids show.
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>>31856361
Are you guys seriously still feeding on false hope? Damn, I pity you weebs for not being able to take the truth...
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>>31856381
Dawn pls
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>>31856409
>>31853693
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>>31856409
???
Anon, explain yourself
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>>31856361
honestly
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Talking about ships, who do you guys think is Dawn's love interest? Kenny or Conway?
>inb4 Zoey
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>>31856502
I don't think she has one but she is still a lesbian
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Just fucking rename this thread the Pokemon Ships Falseflagging and Baiting Thread already. There's nothing to talk about in SM, so naturally this is what fills the void...falseflaggers and baiters searching for free (You)s by posting autistic art or stale chum about various ships.
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>>31856502
Dawn has always been more attracted to women.
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Amour is canon and mami a shit
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>>31856525
For some reason there's been a lot of "Amour is not canon" bait these few days.
Hopefully we'll get news soon.
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>>31856572
Your regressive headcanon doesn´t resemble anything from official material, Dawn is still straight until mentioned otherwise.
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>>31856572
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>>31856649
It was already mentioned otherwise.
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>>31856651
Cute.
Dawn looks good with nerds.
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>>31856572
Dawn seemed more interested in Zoey, May, Cynthia and Iris than boys.
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>>31856630
We DID get news, about the movie, though it wasn't super exciting.
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>>31856651
I can see this happening.
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Daily reminder that Serena will never appear in the same frame as Ash again and that the next movie is retelling how Ash and Misty met.

Amourshippers get a two minute flashback that Ash didn't even bother to remember because he doesn't give a shit about her, while Pokeshippers get an entire movie about how they met. Amourfags BTFO
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>>31856651
>lesbian and gay going to a LGBT parade
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>>31856361
>I mean, after Serena said that Ash was her goal

She means to be someone like him retard.

>and she would come back to him later.

She never said that.

Sure she kissed him but she's gone forever now.
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>>31856674
Ash doesn't seem to fit Dawn at all, they're too similar. Her interactions with that Slowking nerd was more interesting.
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>>31856803
yeah but she is gay
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>>31856803
It's obvious Dawn was written as a lesbian:

- Misty had a crush on Ash before Shudo killed it
- May was written with a crush on Drew
- Serena was written with a crush on Ash
- Iris had no interest in love

Dawn rejected two guys who were attracted to her like Kenny and Conway, she had no interest in Paul, and with Ash she had sisterly affection for. Meanwhile she blatantly crushes on Cynthia, May, shows interest in Zoey, etc.

If Dawn and Serena met they would probably be lesbians too.
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>>31856799
>she never said that
Come on, rewatch the scene.
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>>31856828
She rejected them because no obvious romance between CotD characters is allowed and those mentioned are simply not good enough for Dawn.
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LGBTfags go to Tumblr
Please
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>>31856842
>replying to obvious bait
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>>31856845
It's just Scott and longhairfag sperging at each other.
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>>31856828
>If Dawn and Serena met they would probably be lesbians too.
Kys Scott.
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>>31856843
are you a pearlfag?
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>>31856842
She said "When we meet again, I'll be a much more charming woman."

That is different from "I'll come back for you"
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>>31856577
Autism
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>>31856867
No, just a Dawnfag.
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>>31856880
you sounds like one
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>>31856870
>That is different from "I'll come back for you"
it isn't
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Alright, assuming that there'll be a mon like Phanphy who comes back to the series and evolves, who'll it be?
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>>31856886
Nah, I'm not a shipper I just want to debunk some of the Dawn = gay stuff.
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>>31856983
You literally can't. The show goes against you in your case.
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>>31856983
>debunk
but you didn't
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>>31856947
There's really no Pokemon that fits to return to evolve.

Ash has no mons that can turn into Alola Forms or will evolve into something relevant to the games.

The closest thing would be if Gible made a return once they reached the 3rd Island.
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>>31856828
>If Dawn and Serena met they would probably be lesbians too
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>>31857003
holy shit, BW team was garbage
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>>31856845
All girls are bisexual anyway. Why do you think almost all fanart and doujins portrays them that way?
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>>31857003
Goodra 100%?
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>>31857070
Old pic, it wasn't (as far as I know) updated after the League.

But its sitting at 50% since it lost to Bisharp.
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>>31857003
Pics like this don't work because some pokemon only have a very small handful of battles while others have tons which changes their win percentage.

For example the reason Sceptile is so low is because it had a lot of losses as a Treecko in early Hoenn, even if it won a battle in the same match. Treecko would often beat a pokemon and lose to the next one from the same trainer, so it effects its percentage.
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Why do people think Amour is canon when it's not?
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>>31857110
>>31856876
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>>31857084
How is it sitting at 50% when it's had 1 win, 1 tie and 2 losses?

Losses
>Alain's Bisharp
>Lysandre's Gyrados
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>>31857139
Villain battles aren't official Pokemon battles.
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>>31857139
Bisharp was a loss, the Lysander fight was more of a brawl and not real since it was 7V1.

There was also the draw with Slurpuff, so 50% if draws don't change score. Of draws do, 33%.
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>>31857145
It's a battle nonetheless.

>>31857151
Technically it was 7v2. I still say it counts but that's just me.

And the draw with Slurpuff was the 1 tie I mentioned.
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>>31857170
>It's a battle nonetheless.
It's not. It's a skirmish with a villain where there are no rules and no boundaries and no referees. Those traits don't meet the criteria for a Pokemon battle.
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>>31857064
Nice feet but what's up with that cellulite left leg?
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>>31857200
http://www.strawpoll.me/12368027
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>>31857231
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>>31857328
I doubt Serena would ever use a condom with Ash. She probably would want to get knocked up with a child as quickly as possible, in order to "secure" Ash as hers permanently. A lot of women do that in real life and get themselves pregnant because they delude themselves their man will stay with them if they have a child coming.

...then those women become single parent mothers.
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>>31857200
Perspective?
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>>31857483
Post more Serena feet!
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>>31857328
What was the most in character doujin of Ash and Serena?
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>>31857565
What makes you think I'm Scott?
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>>31857532
This one.
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>>31857532
They're all in character for Serena. Serena's portrayal of wanting sex with Ash and being too embarrassed/shy at first but then getting more and more lewd as it goes on fits her perfectly. Serena's been in character in every anime related doujin I've seen so far.
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>>31857101
Part of me wants to do a more statistically significant analysis of this. I could think of a few rules that would paint a clearer picture:

>Refereed matches only
Doesn't have to be league-official, but only consider battles that have a referee to hand out victories and losses. All fights are fair and there are no ambiguous cases except for draws.

>Measure K/D/A instead of win/loss
Individual Pokemon don't really "win" and "lose" fights unless they're one-on-one. Thus it would make more sense to measure how often a Pokemon gets a KO, how often it gets KOed itself, and how often it "assits" (when it fights another Pokemon, neither lands a KO, and the opponent is KO'd later). Draws can either be ignored, or simultaneously increment K and D.

>use something more statistically useful than a raw sample means to display the data
Raw means without regard for the size of your sample sets are unhelpful and skew expectations. Goodra only has 100% at the time because he's literally been in 2 fights. That's not fair! We should rather be ranking on something more statistically sound, like the lower bound of Wilson score confidence interval for a Bernoulli parameter.
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>>31857576
Well, you may be not, sorry. But you just summoned him again.
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>>31857666
Some faggola here tried doing that during XY but he's kill now. You can try looking in the archives to see if you can find any of his data, but it may have been during that four month stretch where the archives are missing.
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>>31857666
Also I think that person counted TR battles as "wins" for pokemon, which is kind of ridiculous.
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>>31857677
Depending on how he was counting and how he recorded that data it might be useless. I might as well just hand-count it all.
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>>31853398
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>>31857706
Let me see if I can find it. At the very least, I MAY have the text of those missing four months of threads somewhere, though it won't be easily searchable.
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Do you guys like the Volcanion movie?
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>>31858050
Waiting for subs before I watch it.
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>>31857906
I have them, but I have no fucking clue how to do anything with them.
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>>31857666
KDA wouldn't really work since a lot of variations could take place due to switch outs.

WLD would be more ideal because it doesn't leave anything up in the air, you either get a win, loss, or a draw which are the 3 primary ways a battle ends. You could add an assist colum as well if you really wanted that, if they assisted the take down of another pokemon.

But for things like double battles the above gets complicated.

Anyhow, if you do decide to do something with this and want help I'd be interested in that.
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>Tfw Chromebook
>Tfw Chromebook chokes trying into playback and shits itself

I wish that subber group would do .mp4 encodes as well ;_;
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>>31858087
Shit yeah, double battles exist. Hmm...

How would you rigorously define Win/Loss though? Is it by who lands KOs? Or are we only considering the outcome of the battle as a whole? Whatever system is used, it needs to be well-defined.
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>>31858079
There's nothing you can do but go through the threads manually, unless you know some Python or some such.
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>>31858104
Just get a tool like avidemux or MP4Tools and use it to change the file format. The .mkv file is just a container for the .mp4 and the subtitles, and even now a lot of players are able to support .mp4 files with soft-subs in them. Worse comes to worst, just extract the video file and add the subs manually in VLC or whatever player you use.
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>>31858108
For single battles it would be: Win/Loss/Draw + Assist for takedown if you want to add that in.

For doubles things get pretty shady.

You could do pair/team percentage/WLD. For example Swellow/Corphish WLD record. But that winds up being pretty out there.
What could be done and would likely be the best solution, would be to have a separate list for doubles.

WLD similar to singles, and the rules the same. To decide on whether its an assist or not, you create a rules of engagement ruling in a situation like this:

AB VS CD

If A attacks C it initiates the battle. If C is eliminated by A it counts as a win for A. If B eliminates C, then it would count as an assist A and vice versa.

Basically whichever Pokemon attacks a opposing Pokemon first it has a chance at getting a full win added to its record.
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>>31858179
The primary reason I suggested K/D/A is because it's similar to how the games deal with experience. Only the Pokemon that lands the last blow gets the credit, unless it's a switch out where they get fractional credit (assist). It's also how MOBAs work, which handles an arbitrary number of fighters in battle and makes extending the system to doubles a non-issue.
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>>31858210
The problem with KDA is if a Pokemon draws. Do you add both a Win/Loss when really it was neither?

Also the assist factor for something like VS Darkari.

There were like 4 of Ashs Pokemon involved in the fight to take it down. Do they all get an assist?
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>>31858254
Assist only counts if the Pokemon is up when the opponent is KO'd.

Those three Pokemon who were taken down by Darkrai would get +1 death, unless one of them was switched out and is still battle fit, in which case it would get +1 assist. So it's basically Win/Loss, but also giving credit to the rarer case where a Pokemon sees battle but is switched before a KO is landed to either side. I can't think of a specific situation where this has happened off the top of my head, but I know it's happened enough to be worth counting.
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>>31854049
You need to wake up from that bubble of lies kid, there's not romance in the anime, if you actually watch the current episodes Ash isn't involved in any distance love relashionship, he is living adventures with new friends like always.
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Back in 2002 all the Misty fans and Pokeshippers vowed to never watch pokemon again since Misty left, many of them quitting the anime forever and refusing to watch any season without Misty in it.

How do you feel about these people?
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>>31858551
AshxMallow is real
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>>31858361
Well, whatever way you want it I guess.

I had another thought though since I'm watching it right now, for Kanto battles the rules would have to be different as well then the rest of the series due to the occasional"Sleep = eliminated" and "swap out = eliminated"
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>>31858612
That's where the ref rule comes into play. As long as there is a ref who says "X is unable to battle!" it counts as a KO, even if it's just sleep or some other bullshit.
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>>31858563
Some people are just too obsessed with pokegirls/shipping in a insane way, to the point that they just don't care about anything else like the pokemon, battles, adventures, so makes sense for them to stop watching the show when their favorite pokegirl got replaced.
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>>31858592
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>>31858648
>replying
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I really wish the pokemon anime had more real sexual innuendo similar to other anime aimed at kids like Dragonball, Yu-gi-oh, Digimon, etc.

Pokemon is so tame with its fanservice. We get some stuff from time to time, but nothing like any real boob jokes, shower scenes, panty scenes, etc. All other anime aimed at kids has these.
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>>31858639
The thing about that though, what about real battles that don't include a Referee?

In the episode where Ash faces Shota a 3rd time, the episode starts with Greninja VS Scizor and Greninja gets the win but no ref is present for the match but its considered a win for Ash in show.
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>>31858771
It's because they don't want their product to be associated with anything lewd, they hate lewd stuff so much, hentai pages like Paheal can't even use the tag "pokemon" without getting in trouble, so they use the tag "porkyman" instead.
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>>31858822
Yet pokemon doujin is sold online in Japan are made websites like melonbooks and Nintendo does nothing. You can literally order all the PM Gals doujins and the other pokemon doujins from online comic shops in Japan.
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>>31858839
I guess they don't know about that, those doujin artist better keep praying to not be discovered or will be their end.
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>>31858887
I'm sure they know, they have to. All sorts of doujin is sold online after comiket ends:

https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=194946&adult_view=1

Sites like melonbooks and others have all pokemon doujin you can order online. These are major websites in Japan like amazon in the U.S.

Plus pixiv is filled with porn and I'm sure Gamefreak and Pokemon anime employees know the sheer mass of fanart people draw.
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>>31858790
I suppose I'll actually have to dissect the show and empirically find a criteria that gives me the data I want while remaining objective as possible.
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>>31853398
im glad people have remained faithful to amour
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>>31858669
A Genki turboslut who is friendly to everyone... that ship is dead since the beginning.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING /lillie/!
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>>31859736
ARORA~!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metropolitan_Ordinance_Regarding_the_Healthy_Development_of_Youths

Reminder that the Bill 156 was the responsible of the "floating feet" in that scene of the episode 47 of XY&Z. Here's more info about that dreaded law.
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>>31859736
XYZ22 much?
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Holy fucking shit, this was supposed to be a thread for the sun and moon anime, bur quickly seems to have been infected by amourfags...
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>>31859941
Did you mean lilliefags are shitposting like wild rabbits because S&M has zero things to discuss??
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>>31859941

This is why shipping is cancer for this anime. it literally creates a breed of retards.
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>>31859940
That episode changed the entire anime.
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When will the anime go back to what it's supposed to be?
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>>31859954
>responding to falseflaggers
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>>31859988
>>31858674
>>31856847

Anon, you're a fucking retard, I pity you for not being able to argue because deep down you know you're wrong
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>>31859954
Uh no, I mean amourfags, as in A-M-O-U-R-F-A-G-S, Liiliefags are one thing, but there is little to NO image or post about them on this thread, however, when it comes to posts from degenerate autistic amourfaggots, it's clear this thread is infected. It happens with all threads whenever "cute, anime, etc" are mentioned, some lowlife punks will come to the thread, spam it with ShitrenaxAsh pics and call it canon, even if you try to reason with them, they'll say "uurrrr staff confirmed it!!" and when you want to prove theme they didn't, they'll either neglect you or shit on you
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>>31860148
Autism
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>>31860148
>when you want to prove theme they didn't
Prove it then.
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>>31860148
True i think the same.
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Just report and ignore.
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>>31860263
I'm just not going to even bother coming here anymore except for Oha, episode days, Pokenchi and whenever there's news/subs. The rest of the time, these threads are basically 90% bait, shitposting, spamming, falseflagging and all the rest of it.
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>>31860202
>facts are clear, literally before his very own eyes
> calls me an autist because I called out Shitrena

Who's the autist again?
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>>31860263
Sure, the usual "avoid things, ignore, cause we're pussies, we can't handle it when people put us in our place, we are always right even if proven wrong"
Lol, keep being a lowlife scum kid
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>>31853199
just watched the first episode

is ash getting younger? what the fuck?
i don't get why he can't age, brock looked like he was in his mid20's

knowing all the shit's pikachu's been through yet it still looks like it was birthed yesterday is braindead

cant watch more than 10 minutes of this shit, just like every year i try it out again
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>>31860343
No, but he sure looks younger thanks to his new design. SM has been pretty disappointing so far, and his design is only one of the minor reasons for that.
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>>31860332
What can you expect about people who live in a bubble.
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>>31860221
I want to prove it indeed, firstly:
you'll have to find me a HQ image of the Japanese article again, I read one not too long ago on Twitter, but the uploader deleted it after he realized I knew Japanese and realized he lied about stuff, but if you're still willing to listen:

The article talked about various things - from how the XY and XYZ anime was worked on, to comparing it to anime like Best Whishes, to the final kiss scene from Serena
The interviewer asked mostly a few questions about the anime in general, the staff, the ideas, Serena's crush etc and towards the end of the interview, the director (Yajima) was asked about the kiss scene Yajima said that the staff initially was hesitant about the kiss scene (because Japan is pretty strict when it comes to kiss scene in a kids show) but the director insisted they added the kiss scene, so together with the staff they thought of not showing their faces when the kiss happens, and have Serena run up an escalator and then do it
The director said that's how he wanted to end it because he wanted to end it fair for Serena, who's had a crush on Ash, to make sure she's satisfied But not just her, he said specifically he "ended it that way for the fans who want to assume they will become a couple", which is his way of saying "they won't become a couple, like every other pokégirl, but at least we hope you're satisfied with the kiss."
He (on behalf of the staff btw) never stated they were to canonically become a couple, nor did he state that there will be an anime with Ash and Serena's kid (like some Ultra retarded level autists made up and lied about)
So there you have it, that's what I read and translated (5 years of Japanese, compared to some novice amourshipper who translated it the way he wanted it to sound)
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>>31860354
why are they getting away with this? ash is a pokemon? why is his hand on her knee?
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>>31860354
its not even on her fucking knee its on her inner thigh

they cant keep getting away with this
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>>31860385
>>31860389
Calm your tits, m8.
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Was XY/XY&Z a mistake?
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>>31860416
Yes
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>>31860391
are you the same guy that told me to calm down in a different thread

im going to choke your ass
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>>31860439
No.
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Post yfw the movie has Porygon on the screen for at least ten seconds and nobody throws a conniption and nobody has any seizures and everyone embraces the cute computer duck
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>>31860382
>you'll have to find me a HQ image of the Japanese article
So you don't even have it?
Fuck off.
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Do you find the upcoming movie interesting?
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>>31860497
>giving him a (You)
You're responding to that same baitshitter who keeps saying "hurrr I've tried to convince 20, no 30, no 40 amourfags about the truth, I'm an expert on translating Japanese and anyone else who translated it is an nip noob and amourfag, by the way Serena is off getting dicked by Alan in Hoenn."

You should've been able to tell he's shitposting when he said that he had 5 years of Japanese experience but that other translator was somehow a "novice."

Anyway, just learn not to fucking reply from now on.
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>>31860518
Yes, but it's not generating much discussion, because it's basically looking to be a retelling or reimagining of shit we've already all seen.
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Serena and Ash being a couple is canon if you're an Amourfag and non canon if you're not
Why can't we just move the fuck on and agree that anyone still talking about Serena is just a shitposter
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So how exactly going is Ash going to obtain the Waterium Z, Firium Z, and Grassium Z once he goes to Akala island? Will there be multiple trials that he has to go through that will stretch across a couple of episodes and he earns them or will they be placed on the others? What are the chances of him bumping into Gladion while doing the trials just like in the games? It'd be interesting if Lillie were to tag along or be on Akala Island as well so she can hear about him either from Ash or from some residents
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>>31860596
>Why can't we just move the fuck on and agree that anyone still talking about Serena is just a shitposter
Good.
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>>31860634
>>31860596
but why
why would they have date episodes and shit just to fucking scrap it all and start over with some shitty animation and then introduce some new roastie nobody gives a shit about
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>>31860596
Or, we can reserve the shitposting term for the many denialfags and shitters who spam "Amour is not canon, fuck off Amourfags, Serena is getting boned by Alan in Hoenn" and for any "Post Amour!!!! Fuck off lillieshitters" shitposters (yeah I'm talking about you, Kamille and kawaiifag), instead of labeling all discussion about one girl shitposting.

Besides, there's no such thing as "it's canon for some people, it's not canon for others." That's not how it fucking works. This is a fucking kids show that doesn't involve aging, and anyone who unironically thinks that nothing in the future will ever happen just because we don't see it happen before our eyes on screen right now is a fucking retard.

>>31860627
Maybe he will end up having some Pokemon battles against his classmates, and maybe they'll reveal to him later that they actually are talented trainers, I don't know.

Or maybe Top Kek will keep flying around and swapping out the crystals that the Totem Pokemon or Island Kahunas give him.

Or...they'll handwave some other excuse to give him the crystals, like via battle tournaments or whatever.
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>>31860497
>>31860540

>"so you don't have it, fuck off"
>still blindely believes other fags who only bassed themselves on an incorrectly translated article
>"you're responding to baitshitter, don't forgt, we're always right!"
You pieces of garbage hopeless, it's bad enough that fucking trash of a novice amourfag deleted it from Twitter, I knew you wouldn't even go as far as actually look for a HQ image or at least ask for even more info, 'cause you can't handle the truth, you pieces of shit amourfags, all my points have been proven too, thanks for that anons
Ps: you don't have to reply anymore, apparently, you're giving me You's instead of accepting true info, have a great day anons
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Serena a shit!
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>>31860706
why are you even trying to persuade them anon, that's just how some amourfags are, some accept it and peacefully still like amour, others were born to become shitters and hopeless beyond rescue. Stop wasting your time here
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Pathetic, get a life
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>>31860663
I could see Lana, Kiawe, and Mallow revealing that they are trial captains, they aren't that young but for why they are at the Pokemon school I'm sure they'd give out a reason.

Olivia gives the Rocknium Z so, with Rockruff lending its power to Ash it would be a shame if Tapu Koko swapped it for another Z crystal. Also, they still have to explain why Tapu Koko took that other Z ring from Hala and with the series looking like its getting into the plot they could reveal who obtained it and that could be Ash's rival. Hala sensed that it was being taken to someone so this could be Hau's last chance to arrive before he either doesn't show at all or appears for a couple of episodes after/before the Aether Arc.
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>>31860663
>This is a fucking kids show that doesn't involve aging
>and anyone who unironically thinks that nothing in the future will ever happen
>is a fucking retard.
You said it yourself, this show doesn't involve aging or future, Ash is now alone, he doesn't have a magical distance relashionship with Serena, nothing of this is mentioned in the current episodes, Serena used to be a seasonal character to promote XY and now is out of the show, the ship is not canon.
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Holy fuck please just kill this general already, it goes to shit without any news to discuss
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>it's not canon because I said so
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>>31860822
>is canon because i said so.
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>>31860856
More like it's canon because the staff said so.
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>>31860898
Just stop it already. People who continue trying to bring up the denialfaggotry just end up reigniting the shitposting flames of the denialfags.
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Pikachu is Ash's strongest Pokemon? he carried Ash in the Kalos league
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>>31860935
No but the experience it has helps make up for some of its lack of brute power.
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>>31860928
>denialfags.
Sure, Ash and Serena are in a lovey dovey relation right now, every new SM episode is showing us the history of their romance and how they share love time together.
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>>31860818
We've gotten some news recently, the problem is there's not much to discuss about said news because none of it has been very interesting.
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>>31861028
You are wrong, there is lots to discuss, for example what Mallow's stew may taste like, what missing ingredient that she's possibly searching for and so on.
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>>31861055
It'll taste like something, and we already know it's missing a certain nectar, oh and something something Oricorio is related to it because form changes.

That's all there is to say about it atm because that's all we know atm.
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>>31861093
Could we talk about how the trials at Akala island work out? They could play out slightly different but at the same time we can't expect Olivia to drop three quests on Ash
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>>31861028
People were discussing win ratios and systems to calculate them yesterday, then some shitposters came along and started damage controlling about the kissu for the millionth time and killed that discussion.

People ARE talking about shit.
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>>31861138
Ash face is funny in that picture.
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>>31861161
Uh, no? That discussion died on its own more than 9 hours ago, then after 20 minutes Scott came along and started "discussing" his porn obsession. Then ded thred for two hours, then the "fuck off amourfags" shitposters returned two more hours later.
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>>31861234
And there's been multiple post from people trying to discuss things since then. Just overlook all the shitposts and the replies to them and you'll see the actual posts.
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>>31861283
Yeah but it's not like shitposters were spamming a wall of text every minute. People could've easily discussed around the shitposts if they wanted to given how slow the thread was overnight, but they didn't, probably because they didn't have much more to say.

There were only like 15-20 posts in the last nine hours that haven't been either shitposts, replies to shitposts, or metaposts like ours. That's just pathetic.
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>>31860317
At this point I'm beginning to agree with you. I may mostly stop posting here and only come here when the episode airs....there's so little to discuss and too much shitposters.
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>>31861331
There's nothing wrong with threads moving slightly slowly. The current /shuffle/ has been up for 3 and a half day and is probably going to hit the 4 day mark before it hits ump limit, but you don't see any shitposters spamming "kill this general because it's so slow" on a daily basis there.

Just ignore the shitposts and falseflags and let people discuss.
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>>31861369
It's slow as molasses by /padt/ standards. The main consolation is that it's not as slow as 2ch's threads, though that's not saying much.
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>>31861379
So? Let it move at the rate the interest dictate. The Dungeon general has had their most recent thread up for NINE days now, do you think that thread is filled with "just let it die because it's so slow" spam?
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>>31861402
If it's any consolation I think this thread should die because of all of the prior issues
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>>31861402
these threads aren't filed wit shit tho.

It's not that they are slow but that they are filled with non discussion. Dungeon are old games, last one was released over a year but anime episodes are released every week and it's still pure shitposting.
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>>31861402
Oh I don't think we should let it die at all. But there's no question that we have far less to discuss now than we did in XY, and the posting we do get now is denser in shitposting.
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>"This room isn't full of shit, not at all," he said, as he struggled to take a single step with all the shit in the way, and immediately stepped in shit in the process.
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>>31861444
>people are discussing things
>but some autists hate the thing and start shitposting
>so people should not be allowed to discuss things
You can stop your falseflagging now.
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>>31861486
That wasn't me anon, and I'm not falseflagging. I'm >>31861450
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>>31861496
Which are you? Those posts are saying the exact opposite
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>>31861525
I'm >>31861450, >>31861379, >>31861331, and >>31861234.

Sorry to drag you through this metashit, though I'm struggling to find something else to actually discuss at the moment.
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>>31861545
Ok. Yeah, I was just referring to the specific post I was quoting there. Shitposters have been spamming these "just let the threads die because I am shitposting so much" falseflags for months.
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>>31861545
It's SM, mate. We understand.

Besides, we can get our shit together for the benefit of the thread this way.
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>>31861486
When the thread gets to a point that people shitpost (and idiots reply to shitposts, and shitposters reply to shitposts) more than people reply to what little discussion we can have then it's time to die
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Don't we usually get magazine summaries on Tuesdays?
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At the end, mods were right.
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>>31861597
Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. It depends. We do get Newtype just before the 10th of the month, and some other TV guides and magazines scattered about the month, and then the unorthodox Pokemon Fan schedule.


>>31861598
???
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Drawfag delivers.
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>>31861615
Don't egg him on, please.
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>>31861588
If you feel that way, feel free to leave. It'll be as if they were really gone.
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The scan we got recently was incredibly underwhelming. How were the early scans of XY? I remember usually being hyped for XY episodes.
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>>31861629
Where?
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>>31861615
I'm talking about these. I thought they were released every Tuesday?
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>>31861629
Can I marry that girl?
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>>31861655
/a/ drawthread
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>>31861643
>Being hyped for Ash losing his first Gym Battle and random filler shit
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>>31861659
Lurk moar
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>>31861659
Nope
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>>31861668
First 15 episodes only

DP>OS(Kanto)>XY>AG>OS(Johto)>SM>BW
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>>31861664
Fuck off, Tierno
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>>31861643
Pokemon Fan was making a huge deal about "Fairy types finally appearing in the anime". Compared with the hype articles we'd later get, it wasn't all that.
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>>31861713
And this was the full set of episodes they were hyping.
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>>31861689
>DP
This is bait.
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>>31861743
Early DP was very solid, anon.
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>>31861713
>Gouguru never did anything with Premiere
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>>31861666
>KoreanChicSerena.png
Wew lad
>>>/a/153679514
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>>31861731
At least those episodes came after a hype start. It made the fillers that followed until the summer camp arc easier to endure.
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>>31861664
>>31861708
>>
When are you people going to learn? There is no official girl for Ash.
Misty liked him, she left and she was forgotten. The same will happen to Serena. And the next girl, and the next, and the next.
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>>31861931
>Misty liked him
http://pokeshipping.tumblr.com/post/32828840045/playfulmist-takeshi-shud%C5%8Ds-blogs
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>>31861961
> feeling of love towards Satoshi would become Pokemon’s subject, it would break the whole structure of Pokemon
So then they go and do it anyway?
>>
>>31861981
Shudo's personal butthurt rants on his blog written years after leaving the show is not the opinions of anyone but him, anon.
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>>31861981
XY was shitting all over Shudo's opinions, and it was glorious.
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>>31862004
So then it proves nothing about how Misty felt.
I'd believe him, but when there's a whole episode where Misty gets to chose to stay with a super hot guy who can give her everything she wants, but she chooses a dumb kid who has nothing, I have my doubts that she didn't like him.
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>>31862026
You seem new. Shudo's blogshit has been written off as damage control and passive-aggressive jabs at his coworkers and their opinions for ages.
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>>31862041
I admit I'm new to Shudo.
I've never paid attention to who's working on what.
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>>31861629
>Drawing short hair Serena.
But I got to admit, the outfit is an upgrade.
>>
>>31862052
Shudo was literally the creator of the pokemon anime and its characters. He worked on the show from the beginning of Kanto to around mid-Johto when he got bored of the show and quit because he couldn't take the show in the direction he wanted to. This is also why the Johto saga went downhill with so many fillers and why the anime got bland for the first time.

He quit around late Johto and Tomioka took over for most of AG and DP.
>>
>>31862052
He was head writer for the first 3 years of the show and stayed on it until late Johto, and also wrote the two first movies and parts of the third. After leaving the show he wrote a ton of blog posts about his experiences, some of which are kinda interesting and mentioned dropped plots and behind the scenes shit (like how he's the one that created Lugia, the only Pokemon not made by Game Freak), but other entries just feel like damage control here he "explains what was actually going on in scenes" and complains about how his "great" ideas got vetoed.
The theory is that he actually got fired from the show due to being so difficult to work with.
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>>31862114
>Shudo was literally the creator of the pokemon anime and its characters.
Hahaha no.
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>>31860898
Here we go again lol "hurr durr staff said so"
Proof? "It's in the interview!"
Proof from Japanese article?
"... ...
still... the staff confirmed it hurr durr! Don't question us!"
>>
>>31862158
>>31862186
Nice argument
>>
>>31862158
Shudo is the reason the anime is so different from the games. He came up with the anime version of Misty/Brock's personalities, he created Jessie/James and a talking Meowth, he came up with Ash based on Satoshi, as well as the general formula for the show.

Otherwise the anime probably would have been a closer 1:1 adaption to the games, following it closely with Red traveling by himself and capturing tons of pokemon, no Jessie/James, etc.
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>>31862191
Thanks anon, though the first one isn't me, I don't know anything about this Shudo, so yeah
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>>31862210
A lot of that was Hidaka and Yuyama. Shudo was the head writer, not the director.
>>
>looking for a shot of Elle
>wind up finding Serenas massive Serenas instead
>mfw there was something I wanted to stitch but VOLT is hardsubbed
Hopefully these raws will eventually download.
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>>31861629
best girl for sure!! She'll make ash very happy
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>>31862238
shes considered the second bustiest girl with may first.
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>>31862233
>Yuyama
That guy again
>>
>>31862241
How can she make him happy when she's happily taking in Alain's 'BURASTO"?
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>>31862261
>trying to bait with bad excuse.
anon please
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>>31862247
>>31862238
May and Serena's boobs are a godsend to the male fanbase.
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>>31862247
Mallow is the second bustiest girl.
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>>31862289
they sure are anon
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>>31862294
theres not enough of her to call her that. we got many shots of serenas serenas being big and busty, while mallow needs more time. plus this shot isnt showing off a lot of her breasts like may or serena
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>>31862289
What about Misty.
>>
God why are pokemon girls such sex objects?
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>>31862318
>>31862294
She is 12..
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>>31862318
well one shes older and two there are more busty pics of both may and serena so shes not bigger than those two
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>>31862318
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>>31862318
according to fanartist they are, while Iris,Dawn and Misty are flat.
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>>31862275
>bad excuse
Anon please, you know that crush was only temporary, Ash doesn't give a fuck about her, so she's enjoying herself in Hoen instead
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>>31862362
But Serena isn't a slut like Dawn.
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>>31862210
>He came up with the anime version of Misty
>hates Misty for not being girly
Then... why didn't he make her girly?
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>>31862344
Oh well, every main pokegirl is flat compared to Jessie, that's just not fair.
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>>31862380
Would Dawn and Serena be lesbians together if they met? Dawn already likes girls, and Serena would view Dawn as a "female Ash."
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>>31862318
She confirmed flat, remember?
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>>31862380
But shitrena isn't a slut like Dawn

Anon, I couldn't give a fuck about Dawn or any Pokégirl, they don't exist, I find it hilarious that you can't get by the thought that serena's sucking d* in Hoenn, even though she's a non-existing slutty character...
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>>31862380
Dawn is Kenny only.
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>>31862412
>>31862380
>>31862275

Anon, is that (You)?
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>>31862392
Because that anon is full of shit.
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>>31862413
I don't think so.
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>>31862434
Don't try calling out people if you can't even recognize Scott dumb newshit.
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May presses Manaphy against her breasts for most of the movie. Lucky pokemon.
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>>31862453
I see she grew up.
Good for her.
>>
Fuck it:
>>31862474
>>31862474
>>31862474
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>>31859736
Do you not realize how bad Lillie looks in SM ash's outfit? Literally any other outfit would look better on her
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>>31862454
fuck you faggot, it's called "sarcastically calling out someone when you know it's the samefag" you dumb fuck, I beleive the newfag here would be you btw
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>>31862722
The first post is Scott and the third was kawaiifag, so that was not a samefag.
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>>31862362
hah what a terrible rebuttal for you to say something completely out of the show to fulfill your wishes of serena being a no one anymore. we all know canon wise shes made ash her goal. you cant change that anon. amour won the ship
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>>31862821
>amour won the ship

Anon, that ship got titaniced the moment she left, and just face it, she'll never come back except for maybe 1 or two special episodes, don't create false hope in order to satisfy yourself, you'll be deeply depressed once you'll realize she's never going to be with Ash.
I'm just trying to help you, a degenerate autist, get out of that bubble
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