Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

SM12 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=893218

SM11 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_011_Satoshi_Visits_Kaki![H264_720P][830911C2].mkv.torrent

SM10 SUBS V2:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_010_Will_the_Z-Move_Work!_Challenging_the_Grand_Trial!![H264_720P][79770B36].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

(HIGH QUALITY) MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 13 - THE GREAT ALOLA PANCAKE RACE! (FEBRUARY 2ND)
>Satoshi and Pikachu take part in Alola's famous attraction, the Pancake Race. His classmates and the Rocket Gang enter the race as well. Which pair will win this fierce Pancake Race?

>Summary:
>Mao has taught Satoshi about Alola's famous attraction, the Pancake Race. He gets really interested in the race, and decides to enter it together with Pikachu. But his rivals are not just his classmates from the Pokémon School, but also last race's winners, the pancake house employee Noa and Raichu. And the Rocket Gang are after the grand prize, so they decide to enter as well...

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Kenta Miyake: Bakugames
>Ami Koshimizu: Noa
>Azu Sakura: Announcer

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 69 (Feb 5th)

SM14 - The Fruit of Courage: Lilie and Rokon! (Feb 9th)
>The egg everyone at the Pokémon School have been taking extreme care off has finally hatched. Satoshi and his friends are all really excited about it, and Lilie, who had worked extra hard at watching over it, is deeply moved. However, since she is still unable to touch Pokémon, she goes straight from being moved to being deeply depressed. Satoshi and the others encourage her, telling her the day she'll be able to touch Pokémon will eventually come. And then, after school that day, an ominous shadow has its eyes set on Lilie while she's on her way home.

SM15 - Scratch Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!! (Feb 23rd)
>One night, Satoshi returns home to find that Iwanko, who had been watching the house, has been injured. He tries setting up a surveillance camera to find out the reason for this, but...?!

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/6lUViAS6/file.html

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws

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Those were good times...

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Daily reminder that without lolis the human race would have died years ago. It's not physically possible to get off to a 3DPD, so the only way sex can occur is if the man starts himself off with or thinks about loli during the act. Without loli, the reproductive process could not occur and humans would be extinct.

So who's the next popular VA who'll appear in SM?

>>31619581
Urusai!

Sun & Moon? More like Sun & Filler.

Remember to ignore everyone who posts about DP. They are falseflaggers trying to derail the threads.

>>31619614
It's not like X and Y was any better at this point. That was literally X and Y the Fuck is Serena There, She's Literally Just, "Muh Satoshi"

Why did YW crash and burn in Japan anyway? For a while it genuinely seemed like it would overtake Pokemon for good, to the point where even Dogasu got worried, but now YW is on a sharp decline while Pokemon is going from strength to strength. These days only the YW is popular, and even then the ratings are declining quickly.

>>31619614
XYfag detected.

SM15 - Scratch Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!! (Feb 23rd)
>One night, Satoshi returns home to find that Iwanko, who had been watching the house, has been injured. He tries setting up a surveillance camera to find out the reason for this, but...?!

Was that true then?

>>31619644
Yes
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?656665-Feb-23rd-SM15-Scratch-Hill-Iwanko-and-Lugarugan!!

>>31619634
Yokai Watch alienated half the fanbase by not letting them carry on their character into the third game. Fumi/Katie isn't playable in the third game, despite the fact that the females (and males who like playing as girls) have played her since game 1.

>>31619634
Fuck off.

>"I-It's Aether, or a-at least Skull, the bad guys in t-the Alolan Vulpix episode!"
>rockruff episode
>"IS TEAM SKULL BEHIND?"

Never change.

>>31619670
Pokemon changes playable characters every generation but few people complain. What was different with YW?

>>31619634
The American Yokai were uninspired, you could't play as the female pc, too much filler in the game,etc. I'm sure they will go back to their roots with the next game

>>31619690
He's just a retard that doesn't know how Level-5 games work.

>>31619690
>>31619701

No. It would be the same if for example, SM wouldn't let you play with chicken and you are forced to play only with ellio

Has Ilima appeared yet?

>>31619694
I was referring to Japan, not America.

>>31619675
Hey, at least Team Skull showed up early this time, unlike in BW when Team Plasma didn't show up until near the end, and even then it was in Neo form.

What's the name of that pokemon that's hurting my boi rockruff

I'm new here and I want to know. How do you cover the text with the black box?

>>31619720
Lycanroc

>>31619551
>Scratch Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!!
So, do we know if Iwanko is a female or not? Because under different circumstances, this looks like a bad fanfic in action here.

>>31619718
>I was referring to Japan, not America.
Are you retarded? Yokai Watch 3 is set in america and has "american yokai" but L5 is retarded and instead of making them based on cryptids they based them on shit like bacon and hamburgers(no joke). Japs don't them because they are bland and lazy, not because they aren't japanese.

>>31619533
Cannot wait for lilie x alolan vulpix lewds.

>>31619634
>>31619670
Stop forcing this stupid "le YW was a Pokemon killer" meme.

>>31619736
Highlight the text you want to spoiler, then hit CTRL+S

>>31619736
Put blankets on it.

control + s

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>>31619631

Reminder:
SM12 = 3.9 :)

>>31619750
I didn't say it was killing Pokémon you fucking dunce. He asked why it was dying and I answered, I said nothing about it being a Pokémon killer. Learn English.

>>31619765
Those numbers if bad are because of salty amourfags.

>>31619767
>I said nothing about it being a Pokémon killer.
No, but you were basically reciting its retarded talking points that are used to support that meme.

>>31619767
No, you just pulled shit out of your ass and fell for cap shitposters try pushing. Go back to where you came from.

>>31619786
>can't play as Katie in the third game
>this is why it killed Pokémon

>>31619718
>I was referring to Japan, not America.
Do...do you know what you are talking about?

>>31619793
Oh I thought you were >>31619634. Never mind then.

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>>31619736
Newfag pls.

Ctrl-S is the easiest way to put them.

>>31619765
YAMEROOO

What's with all the frog threads in the catalog?

>>31619631
Yeah, XY8, X10 - XY16 were fillers

>>31619872
faggots.

>>31619765
>SM had to use maximum waifufag fanservice and the TRio (the best thing so far in SM) to reach Sophocles' high rating again

Wow, so this is the power of SoL.

>>31619872
Well-deserved, earned bullying.

>>31619884
>>31619765
Not this shit again

>>31619884
But aren't the Hala and Kiawe episodes also 3.9?

So does this new title mean >>31611735 is anime-related?

>>31619942
Fuck off already, you retard.

>>31619943
Not necessarily. And especially, because Pikachu doesn't appear among those plushies.

>>31619917
Not this shit again.

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>>31619765
Wait what happened I thought It is good since the start
I'm still in flare arc but if this keeps declining I probably stop watching after Z47

>>31620007
XYZ went to shit from after Wulfric, and that's only if you don't consider edgy grimdark Ash to not be shit.

>>31620007
(you)

>>31620007
Here's the list of essential SM episodes:
>the first two
>Lillie's eggpisode
>Totem Trump and Hala

And that's it, everything else might as well be filler.

>>31620032
Don't forget Lana stripping.

>>31620032
Also any episode involving Mallow or Kiawe.

>>31619808
Wait, is there any way to do it on a phone. Cuz that's what I'm using right now.>>31619872

>>31620007
>caring about irrelevant TV ratings
There's your problem.

Might not be the best time, but...

SM15's title works better as "Scratchmark Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!!"
"Scratch" has too many different meanings, and I don't think "scratchmark" is the first to come to people's mind when they see the word in this context.

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>>31620032
That's about right. Can Ash leave the island already and return traveling?

>>31620112
What really surprises me is that the school has been underutilized so far. It's been a while since we last saw it.

>>31620112
The only time Ash needs to travel is to do the other trials, so its not important for now.

>>31620126
Fuck off, Mimi.

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>>31620126
Of course Mami HAD to be in this thread talking about Yokai Watch and ratings.

>>31620126
Turn your fucking trip off.

>>31620098
Yeah, it's probably not the best time, but whatever, sometimes have to fight shitposting with goodposting.

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Why is this so much better than Amourshipping ?

>>31620213
Because its fans aren't as annoying or obnoxious.

I'm still waiting for the TRio to have a run in with Team Skull.

So far:

DP > XY > Kanto > AG > Johto > SM > BW

SM could move up on the list since we have another 100 episodes to go.

>>31620360
DP > XY (second year) > XYZ (anything not league) > AG > Kanto > Johto = BW (season 1) = XY (first year) > SM > BW (season 2) >>>> BW (DA arc) = Hitler >>>>>> XYZ (league) > BW (league)

>>31619644
>>31619667
Unlikely, but I hope Ash gets a Rockruff/Lycanroc

>>31620404
>BW 1 = XY year one
Opinion discarded

>>31620417
BW season 1 was mostly fine while XY year 1 was lackluster. With the exception of Elesa, who I forgot to put on that list because I'm an idiot.

>>31620360
DP = XY > OS > AG > BW

>>31620443
XY first year was pretty well done all around aside from Serena not doing much.

>>31620489
Serena not doing much killed it for me. Korrina was shit too, specifically Gurkin because fuck him.

>>31619533
>that vulpix
dear god it's even cuter in the anime, what episode? how many weeks?

>>31620501
Next week.

>>31620494
Your loss then, I found most of those early eps entertaining, Bonnie/Clemont were new and fresh at the time, and we were seeing the start of Ash's new interactions with the group and pokemon.

BW season 1 had awful Trip, a lot of Ash's extra pokemon didn't do anything from the start, and while I don't think Iris was too bad early on, you could tell she was starting to head towards her annoyance factor later on.

>>31620517
I can't stand romantic shipping bullshit because I have autism, so when you had Serena's character doing literally nothing but that it was a huge flaw for me. Bonnie was good though, and she remained good throughout the entire series.

>>31620532
>I can't stand romantic shipping bullshit because I have autism

What

Early XY was also a lot more subtle with Serena's crush where it was barely brought up and we just got short blushes in scenes.

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It's over, Serena buns. Ash loves Kiawe now. Just give up and eat that rat poison.

>>31620542
It really stand out when that's all she does though. At least it did to me. Mixing that in with Tripokalons would be fine, but they didn't do that until Year 2.

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>>31620360
Good taste

>>31620404
>filler hell first spot

>>31620570
DP really didn't have that much filler. Many if not most of what you would call filler had something that expanded a character or somehow tied into to other story arcs going on at the time.

People who watch the Pokemon anime continually complain about filler...when every saga has it and that's how the show works.

>>31620552
She should've tried Rhyhorn racing a bit more intently while traveling so she wouldn't feel like she was upsetting her mom, then she could've experienced something that made her realize this wasn't for her and that she needed to find her own path, not her mom's path.

>>31620591
Yeah, but one year between gym battles is just terrible pacing.
I guess that's what happens when the staff has no idea about the next set of games.

>>31620659
That would have helped. Even if it felt like it went nowhere, she would have had more episodes to herself to do things other than fawn over Ash. (even if we had the Pokevision one and the Millefuei one, both of which were good.

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>>31620551
SHARING IS CARING

Anyone sick of the "can't touch pokemon" plotilne? It's annoying

>>31620681
It's probably worth pointing out that I liked BW Season 1 for the most part.

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>>31620690
She's so cute.

>>31620703
Less annoying than Bearnigga.

>>31620708
Yes, post more

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>>31620708

>>31620681
I still ended loving Serena when it was all said and done, and she's now my favorite, however, her first year was definitely flawed. She needed more than just three or four focus episodes where she was doing random shit whose significance really wasn't clear until after she found her goal.

The Pokevision episode in particular was pure cringe and it did a disservice to her character by making her seem really, really superficial.

>>31620715
That's the best

>>31620721
No.

>>31620747
Yes

>>31620746
Opinion has definitely shifted a bit against Bewear. The gag is being overused and it's going to just feel contrived and forced if they keep doing it.

I still like him a lot, but he can't just become the only thing that makes TR get sent off. It just makes the TR battles feel even more pointless than they already are.

>>31620776
At least is funny. The "can't touch pokemon abloo boo" it's so exaggerated and unrelatable

>>31620703
I've been sick of it. There's nothing compelling about it at all right now. The only thing that will redeem is if the backstory that's hinted at in the first egg episode is actually something interesting, and even then that will say more about her mom than it does about her.

>>31620804
>unrelatable
not really, a lot of people are afraid of animals for one reason or another

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>>31620708
>Ehehehe~ stop it.

>>31620824
but they don't act like Lillie does

>>31620824
Afraid of even the friendliest, most cuddly ones like Pikachu, Popplio and Borb? She can't even touch the fucking Rotomdex for gods sake.

>>31620551
Still waiting on my Ash getting BLACKED pictures.

>>31620804
It stopped being funny when he came in and took them away when they were winning.

>>31620703
I'm surprised they're dragging it out. I thought it would be more similar to May's disinterest in pokemon where she got over it quickly.

>>31620839
well believe it or not, i was quite afraid of swinning with dolphins when i was a kid

yes, I was a fucking wimp.

>>31620928
I'm terrified of dogs. Wasn't even attacked by one as a kid, they just scare me. I can touch them once I start to trust them though.

>>31620928
I'm scared of whales. I almost got killed by one in seaworld.

>>31620928
being afraid of ONE animal is different to be scared of all

>>31620946
just an example of being afraid of more friendly animals

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If only Moon could have been in the anime.

>>31620997
>dolphins
>friendly

>>31620928
Dolphins aren't a common type of animal, anon. They're also much bigger than dogs/cats/small birds, and they are "friendly" insofar as they're generally indifferent to humans. Contrast that with a house dog like Rockruff or a bird like Rowlet, two Pokemon that most people shouldn't be scared of touching. Lillie is afraid of touching not just the big scary mons, but the tiny cutemons too...the whole kit and caboodle.

Nebby when

>>31621039
Never.

>>31621026
well like i said, it was an example, i was afraid of dogs too for a while, and my grandma's hyper-aggressive cat

>>31621001
They don't want another Serena in the anime

>>31621127
If I met a hyper-aggressive cat it would be shot. I don't give a fuck who owns it or how much they love it, if it attacks me for no reason fuck it, it's dead.

>>31620659
That would've undermined one of the reasons Serena went on a journey in the first place: to get away from her mom's influence.

She already knew she didn't want to be a Sihorn racer when she decided to split.

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>>31621148
piss off teutonic plague

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>>31621214
I like cats. Just not randomly aggressive ones. This pussy right here for instance is nice.

>>31621208
Yeah that's true, forgot about that.

>>31621327
Just as shit as your english.

>>31621327
00001000

>>31621208
She needed episodes where she tried other things then. Basically like cotd episodes where Serena tries something new, it doesn't work and she tries again in a few more episodes. You literally can't have a main character with so few episodes and have them not be garbage.

>>31621327
Since when?

>>31621335
Sorry for that

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Just finished marathoning XY, XY&Z, and SM up to 11. Best girl pic related. Luchabull best main pokemon. Clumsy Pukurin best guest pokemon.

So far XY/XYZ>SM. Best parts of SM so far have been Kiteruguma, Mimikkyu, and Amara.

>>31621388
>forces her daughter to go on a camp she wants no part of
>trirs to force her daughter to race Rhyhorn despite her being terrified of them and calls her a wimp for being upset at falling off and sliding across the ground on her face

Fuck her, at least until she started supporting her daughter instead of trying to live through her.

>>31619614
XY Ash was bland and boring. At least SM Ash has a more balanced personality and isn't just a full noob or full battling machine.

>>31621427
>XY Ash was bland and boring

It's true.

>>31621427
ebin

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>>31621427
forgot your pic

>>31621388
Go to bed Nathan

>>31621488
First time posting in this thread. Who is Nathan?

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>>31621500

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>>31621510

>>31620690
You don't want him.

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>>31621524

>>31620825
Not you, the butterfree.

>>31621388
Grace is fucking hot. Her boobs are double D.

>>31621497
Please tell me you didn't become a Serenafag too

>>31621582
Her crushing on Satoshi was cute, but I'm not as much of a diehard as some other people seem to be be (judging by the last thread and this one).

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>>31621593
haha if you insist ha

>>31621039
The writers bagged that plot point.

I wish Serena would have done something else that fucking contests seriously. Dislike Iris as much as you want at least her goal was something new for the female companion.

>>31621500
>>31621510
>>31621540
Reminder that for Japan kisses are extremely intimate and magic moments.
Not only did Serena steal his first kiss; she also did it in the middle of a big airport.
That isn't nice.

>>31621704
Did they ever confirm where she kissed him?

>>31621698
Well, She wants to make people smile

>>31621704
>serena mouthraping ash somehow means the ship is canon
Amourfags never fail to amuse me. I could go out and kiss some random girl right now, doesn't mean I'm in a relationship with her.

>>31621698
The games don't give the writers anything new to work with for the female companions. Anything battle related will always be done by Ash, so the girls don't have many options.

>>31621713
On the forehead.

>>31621717
Misty pls.

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>>31621713
she gave him a headbutt

>>31621721
The girls have unlimited options. The writers are just indifferent or incompetent.

>>31621713

Masuda: I don't know (laughs)

>>31621713
It was a french kiss.

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>>31621704
Why was Serena so emotionally abusive?

>>31621752
There is nothing else. Gyms/Battle Frontier/Island trials or whatever the main goal in the games is will always be done by Ash. Contests are the only other option. Even the post-game stuff like the Battle Tree/Chauteu, etc. are all battle oriented.

>>31621788
If they can have girls from games that didn't even have contests, do contests, they can have them do fucking anything. Let them do the Pokéathlon or some shit instead of the same boring crap.

How do we fix XY?

>>31621805
Pokeathlon was from one remake game from 4 gens ago. And HGSS came out in the middle of the DP era when Dawn was still the lead. Its obvious why they just got one filler and were forgotten.

>>31621780
Because girls in love can't control themselves.

>>31621861
Proper dance episode.
More Millefeui.

>>31621863
That is literally not the point.

They could do any activity besides contests, which aren't even in every game, including being another battler. Is your stockholm syndrome so strong that you can only think inside the same box as the writers?

>>31621890
Serena didn't do contest

>>31621917
Same shit, different name.

Reminder that Serena did literally nothing in the flare arc

>>31621928
But they're not the same.

>>31621717
>implying it was rape
Ash actually prepared his mouth for the kiss, so it wasn't rape

>>31621933
A beauty pageant is a beauty pageant, faggot. Same shit. There are other options.

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>>31621704

>>31621932
I remember how everyone believed she would have a big amour moment where she saves Ash. The amount of damage control was funny when she didn't.

>>31621977
Dawn pls

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What is this cute girl thinking about? It seem as if something is on her mind...

Serena didn't deserve a kiss.

>>31622316
>Serena
Ash

Daily reminder Ash won't catch Rockruff

Hay I just noticed something. If episode 15 takes place in the night mostly. Then that wold mean I can finally see if my theory about rowlet being nocturnal is correct. I mean he is an owl, so it would make sense for him to be in the episode.

>>31622424
looks painful

>>31623105
Bonsly is supposed to weigh a ton.

>>31620898
This "Fear of Pokemon" sub-plot is unlikely to be fully resolved until the middle of the Aether.Arc.

>>31622407
He'll catch Incineroar, tho.

So some of us have been watching the anime for around 20 years, besides some breaks here and there. How much longer do you intend to follow new episodes?

UB appearance in SM when? Evil Lusamine when? Guzma when?

>>31623314
Next year probably

>>31623199
I fell we will get a krokorok like scenario, Litten will appear a couple of times, it'll evolve to torracat and then ash will catch it

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>>31622039

I want to see Serena and Dawn meet.

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>>31623354

And much like Krokorok will become his ace fighter this region.

>>31611604
Because they're both ghosts? Mmmh mmh.

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>>31623370
It's better if she didn't, Dawn shouldn't get ideas about getting short hair.

Is mimikyu the most op pokemon tr ever had? It even has a good moveset, shadow ball, shadow claw, play rough and hammer arm (if I'm not mistaking)

>>31623548
Wood hammer***

i dont want to be alive anymore

>>31623751
This is understandable if you try to enjoy the show but have to deal with a show like SM.

I love how all shitposters were like "oh yeah well XY was shite fuck off amourfags" and now, the whole thread is like "well there's nothing interesting in SM aside from waifubait, let's talk more about XY".
Are you salty yet?

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I'm not a SatoMao fan but this was pretty cute.

>>31623548
Wobbuffet.

They are just retarded.

>>31623902
Talking about XY is the lesser evil. No one expected SM to become this bad.

>>31623902
We don't need this. Yes, SM is kinda boring and it doesn't look like it's gaining any steam soon (if ever), but I'd rather keep this thread quiet than turn it into another butthurt SM shitposter fest.

>>31623930
Kek. Even judging from the fucking artstyle, everybody was expecting it. Sure, XY was shit after the league because it killed all hype but at least, it was consistently good until that point.

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>>31623902
>People who don't like sm and love xy prefer to talk about xy over sm

Stop the presses!

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>>31623955
*It was consistently good until the haircut.

>>31623977
>still this assmad

SM has more color and personality than XY

>>31624012
No it doesn't, the backgrounds are similar but the characters in SM look far worse. It looks inconsistent and there often is no shading.

>>31623968
>IMG

>>31624012
I bet you are a Nintenshill too

>>31624057
>Nintenshill
What's that

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>>31619736
Oh and a newfag was born
So cute

>>31619750
nice Thanks Anon.

>back in the days, oldfags respect mami and even defend him when a newfag calls out tripfagging

>>31624336
what happened?

>>31624381
He said amourfags were starting to get obnoxious

>>31624387
wew he really did nothing wrong.

>>31624387
It's not like he was wrong. Amourfags today are either fine or shitposters who don't give a fuck about Amour at all and are just shitposting, but Amourfags then really did get to be too much.

>>31624336
Said no one ever.

Still, /a/'s garbage for condoning attention whores like Lelouch and such.

>>31624413
Want me to check the archive? I'd link you a few threads were people we're talking nicely to mami back then

>>31624423
I am aware there's retarded people in /a/ too, thanks for the offer.

>>31624551
Talking about /padt/

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/21797643
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/22665734

>>31624565
Great times.

>>31624565
So am I.

>>31624406
>either fine or are shitposters
Which is true of literally any group of shippers or waifufags or whatever. Amourfags aren't particularly bad in this regard. If you want bad, Korrinafags are the gold standard for that. If anything, all the "blame the Amourfags and Serenafags for everything" shitposters are even worse than anything Amourfags have done. There's only like one legit Amourfag remaining here who's total cancer, and that's the kawaiifag, and he doesn't even come here much anymore. The others are falseflagging pieces of shit like Duplica, who has admitted he shitposts Serena and Amour pics when he's bored because he has a hateboner for Amourfags and wants to make them look bad.

>>31624403
Not totally true, he took off his trip and started samefagging with himself and he got busted for it. Plus, people also started hating him when they learned about his scat fetish.

>>31624028
Oh god the lack of background textures and shading in certain scenes has been awful. Even in the OP there's one scene where a Pokeball is thrown onto a totally flat-looking background, with no shading or texture at all. It sticks out like a sore thumb. SM05 also had a couple of really bad shots, including one with a miscoloree Pelipper, if I remember right.

>>31623902
It's not a matter of being salty, it's just shitposters wanting to shitpost and falseflag because they're bored. Even those who genuinely like SM will often agree that it doesn't provide much discussion fodder because of the different approach it takes.

>>31623314
Later in the series, this is still far too early. Using the family photo to tease Lusamine and Gladio's existence in the anime was the right move.

>>31621717
I can't tell if this is bait, or if it's just some idiot who's been living under a rock for the last few months.

>>31623915
Translation pls

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Think this is relevant?

>>31624812
Eh probably not to the anime

>>31624818
Anime logo tho

When the FUCK will the plot start moving and the series start picking up?

Holy fuck I've never been so unenthusiastic for a Pokemon series in so long. It's like Hala and the whole Island Challenge plotline is treated as an after thought. When will things actually start picking up? Fucking hell man

>>31624824
Oh now I see it

>>31624830
I don't know...to be fair, the game's didn't give the writers much to work with.

>>31624759
This, and let's not forget about his ratings shitposting.
Truth is that philippine deserves to be called out every time he posts with that unnecessary trip.
I feel sorry for the real Mami Kawada.

>>31624830
You make it seem like there was a plot in the many previous seasons before other than 'travel to gym, collect badges, lose the league'. XY rused people into thinking otherwise, but anyone familiar with how Pokemon anime works had called that shit already, but no one listened.

>>31624944
DP had a strong plot going throughout the saga, and mini arcs thrown around every few episodes. What are you talking about?

>>31624955
>smug loli.jpg

>ash hasn't caught a single Pokémon since rowlet

jesus fucking christ

>>31624955
Which ultimately amounts to nothing. All you can do is enjoy the ride.

>>31624992
There isn't a ride to enjoy.

>>31624994
Maybe for you, but I am certainly enjoying it. There's no rush. I can download and watch the episodes whenever I like. The Pokemon are lively and act cute as fuck, and the casts are more than accessories to Ash and have lives outside of being Ash's whatever.

>>31625044
>he casts are more than accessories to Ash and have lives outside of being Ash's whatever
The problem with this statement...their lives outside being Ash's classmates have been pretty much irrelevant so far. Outside their focus episodes (which have been largely forgotten about because they're basically just filler-like episodes dressed up as "focus episodes"), they pretty much are Ash's background accessories, there to just talk about whatever is on Ash's mind that day.

>tfw been here long enough to remember last time Lana said more than 3 lines
who /oldfag/ here?

>>31625099
I'm a sort of not newfag, been here for three years now

>>31625088
>filler-like episodes dressed up as "focus episodes"
Kiawe and Lillie's weren't.

>>31625088
Which is inherently my point. They're not always hanging around Ash and each have their own lives. They're not just perpetual yes-men that hovers around Ash and marvel at every little thing he does. In SM, it's the other way around, it's Ash who takes a glimpse at what his friends does and marvel at what they do. They are treated as their own people and how their lives are just as meaningful as any other, like say being a Pokemon master.

>>31625122
So not getting screentime is justified as "having their own lives" now?

>>31625122
>their lives are just as meaningful as any other
Not even remotely true. The others can have their own lives, but when what they do outside of Ash is never going to really be brought up again and they barely get any lines, there's not much point to it. Characters like Lana and Sophocles have been especially useless, basically forgotten since their respective episodes.

Plus, there's nothing entertaining about Ash "marveling" at any mundane thing his classmates are doing. Seriously, he says "sugeeeeiiiii" or "Sasuga!" at the most ordinary shit, like Sophocles eating ice cream (which really has nothing to do with Pokemon anyway).

I'm watching the Pokemon anime, so show me Pokemon battles and such, not random side adventures where some Pokemon are thrown in the background and the characters do stuff because...reasons.

>>31625137
As opposed to having screentime and doing absolutely nothing noteworthy? So far, SM has been relatively light on fillers, and had probably more meaningful character focus, as divided as it might be. It's not just about screentime but how it is used as well.

SM14 summary from Adamant:

>Satoshi and the others are really excited about the act that the egg they have been taking care of has hatched. Lilie, who has been in charge of the egg, is overjoyed as well, but she is unable to touch the Pokémon and just gets depressed. And then, a mysterious shadow that has its eyes set on Lilieand the others starts to...?!

>Summary:
>A Pokémon is finally born from the egg everyone have been taking care of! Lilie, who has been hard at work being in charge of the egg, is of course overjoyed, and so are Satoshi and the others. However, Lilie is unable to touch the Pokémon. She gets depressed, but Satoshi and the others encourage her, and she decides to approach the Pokémon. Will she become able to touch it?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Kenta Miyake: Bakugames

>>31625191
Anon, not everyone is here for the Pokemon battles. I genuinely missed all the personality Pokemon had in the earlier season, as nonsensical as some might have been.

>>31625197
People bitch about how little focus Serena got in early XY, but by XY12 she had received FAR more attention than Kaki has received in the 12 SM episodes that have aired so far. And he's the SM cast member with the most meaningful focus so far.

>>31625198
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
rrrrr fuck off already

>>31625228
There's like several companions in SM, and even then, if they continue this pace of character focus and less filler, those companions would probably be fully fleshed out before the midpoint of the season.

>>31625212
>personality
What "personality"? The Pokemon right now have no more personality than in any previous season. Hell, some of them like Popplio and Bounsweet and Turtonator have less personality. The only ones on the main cast that have a marked personality are Rowlet and Fato, and the latter just likes sperging out for random reasons and raping Pikachu.

The best Pokemon in this season have belonged to TR, with Mimikyu and Bewear and Mareanie, and even then you know their role in the show will be reduced to "generic conflict source."

>>31625228
Serena was player character, after May/Dawn people expected a lot from her.
SM cast are Trial Captains, so basically Misty's/Brock's of season.

>>31625197
>It's not just about screentime but how it is used as well.
Surely Lana and Sophocles' episodes have been prime examples of that.

>>31625247
Except Serena got more focus in XY-12 than Kaki, Mao AND Mamane got in SM1-12.

The SM characters getting net to zero focus in a very legit complaint, and writing it off as "SM is so awesome it shows that the characters have their own lives by never focusing on them" is ridiculous damage control.

>>31625264
Sophicle's episode was half used for Ash and his houseworking skill, and the other half is split between him and Togedemaru. You can't even call it his character focus episode. Lana, I will fight you if you think she didn't get proper character focus in her episode.

>>31625285
Suiren got some focus in that episode, but the focus kinda disappeared after the class actually started. People's problem with her is that she's done absolutely nothing outside that episode.

>>31625198
These cast lists start feeling kinda samey after a while.

>>31625279
Mao hasn't even gotten her character focus episode yet, and Mamane was literally half-filler. You are cherry-picking hard here, especially since SM has a larger established cast here.

>>31625306
And it's been 12 episodes, with a large cast. Again, if they continue this current setup of less filler and more character focus episode, everyone will be properly fleshed out. I get what you're saying but you are trying a bit too hard to compare the traditional way Pokemon anime had handled its previous seasons to this current one.

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>>31625212
>watching the Pokemon anime
>an anime for the game series devoted to catching monsters and battling other trainers' monsters with them
>not caring for Pokemon battles
Do you know what show you're watching, what games you're playing?

>>31625285
>Sophicle's episode was half used for Ash and his houseworking skill
Which has nothing to do with Pokemon.

>You can't even call it his character focus episode.
So what was the point of the episode then? It was supposed to be a character focus episode, so was it literally "Ash fucks up his cooking and gets into trouble at the mall"? If so, it's a useless, wasted episode.

>>31625285
She got a flashback and had Popplio practice balloons, which was all right. The rest of the time it was just "let's watch everyone fail at fishing, oh no TR is stealing the Pokemon for the 600th time, let's have some character get triggered, oh we'll have Lana do it and then forget about her for two months."

>>31625328
It's not cherry picking. We're 12 episodes into the series, and the only character to have received a really solid character focus episode is Kaki. Suiren got half an episode. Both these two characters have done jack shit outside that specific episode. Mao hasn't received ANY focus, Fatfuck's "focus" episode didn't really focus on him in the first place, and Lilie's focus episode didn't even need her around, since James did all the talking for her and then got the rest of that episode mostly to himself.

It's one of the really heavy flaws with SM.

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>>31625285
>Sophicle's episode was half used for Ash and his houseworking skill


Fucking kek shut up anon

SM kinda does it another way, if Serena/Misty/Iris/Brock/Cilan needed to have some reason - some "goal" to travel, SM cast do not need that - they're just schoolkids, they don't need to be type masters or champions of some competition to study.

But I agree that basically everyone who isn't Kaiwe/Lillie are filler characters right now. Lana's dream is worse that Misty's and Mallow/Sophocles do not have goal/objective.

>>31625349
>current setup of less filler and more character focus episode
They pretty much all are fillers so far, just dressed up as "character focus episodes."

Besides, so far only Kiawe and Lillie have really shown room for real growth. What the other characters have done has just sort of been done because...??? Seriously, Sophocles likes making computer programs. Okay, so what? Is his character "growth" going to consist of him making lots of random programs that don't serve any broader purpose? Mallow likes to cook. Okay, so what? Lana is "ayyyy balloon lmao," the girl. Why do I have any reason to care about any of those characters?

They may well get fleshed out later, but the writers greatly erred with the size of this cast and the lack of compelling "character introduction episodes" to ensure we'd feel interested in the characters from the very start.

>>31625355
Right, because Pokemon are only used for battling and not for any other things like traveling, construction work, food, Contests and many other non-battling purposes. Not everything has to be about battling, sometimes, I just want to give them a headpat, dress them up and feed them some beans.

And as for the purpose of that episode, sometimes, a filler is just that, a filler. You're reading too much into that one episode. And as for Lana, it felt it was an adequate start for her. It's not like they have to fully develop her in one episode. I get the general idea of who Lana is and what she wants. When she gets her next character focus episode, I know what to expect. There's absolutely no need to force and rush everything into one episode.

>>31625410
They don't have goals, which makes it feel like there is nothing worth investing in these characters.

The only ones whose characters who have anything to them are Kiawe and Lillie. There is literally no point in the others.

>>31625361
Anon, it's 12 episodes out of how many? And how many actual filler episodes have there been so far? And how many fillers did the many previous seasons have?

>>31625431
When Pokemon tries to go "no battling" it usually fails. Contests in anime had battling and were treated as big goal, while Showcases/Tripokalon were just tool to give Serena some emotional scenes like haircut, as competition they were dogshit.

The problem is that they're being presented as main characters, really. If they had just been "students at the school" and stayed the fuck out of episodes they had no point in being in, people wouldn't complain. Nobody claims Shota and Alan "got too few focus episodes in XY&Z" because they didn't spend the 30 episodes they didn't appear in traveling with Ash and saying 5 irrelevant lines while the plot ignored them.

On the other hand, people DID complain about DP Brock because he spent nearly every episode doing nothing but maybe present his running gag for the billionth time.
But apparently it's OK when every SM character is DP Brock-tier.

>>31625489
I'm not saying 'no battling', I'm saying it's not always about battling.

>>31625498
>The problem is that they're being presented as main characters, really.
wut?

>>31625489
>they were dogshit
>

>>31625431
Where did I say that they only had to battle? I didn't say that at all. The problem is the stuff the Pokemon are doing so far has been just...being on screen for the sake of being there. Like look at Mudbray and Miltank in the Kiawe episode. They were just there for the sake of being there. Turtonator battled Skull once and hasn't really done anything since. Bounsweet just puffs out Sweet Scents all day. Togedemaru rapes Pikachu and turns itself into a bowling ball, the only useful thing it's done is shock TR once. And it's not like previous series failed to show Pokemon doing non-battling things. There was a much nicer balance.

The thing is that Pokemon battles are the core of what the games are about. When you give them short shrift, you are basically stripping the franchise of its essence. This is more like a series about pets than a series about monsters.

>>31625459
You don't need 12 episodes to give viewers a general but still concrete sense of everyone's purpose in the show, anon, even with a cast this big.

And the way this series has started, very few of the episodes have truly been important. There's SM01-02, SM04, SM07 and SM09-10, and finally the TR capture episode last week. The character focus episodes have mostly been filler by any other name, with 90 seconds of backstory randomly thrown in each one.

>>31625508
Yeah, but neither were the previous series either. They WERE the core of those series, though, and rightly so. Here in SM, trainer battles seem like an afterthought.

>>31625519
He is right. I loved Serena, but the Tripokalons themselves weren't very well explained. They were mainly useful as a narrative device for Serena's character.

>>31625519
Well, they were. Only good thing that came out of them was some good Serena's scenes like haircut/skirt rip. If they didn't had that kind of scenes(XY091, Rich chick debut) - they were no tension boring version of first contest round with better animation.

>>31623977
>77

>>31625516
The 5 classmates are promoted as "Ash's companions" and "main characters in SM".
People wouldn't complain about Kaki never doing anything if he had been 100% absent from episode 3-10. He'd have been considered a solid recurring rival character instead.
But instead of him being a solid recurring character, he's a really shitty main character that spends almost every episode being a waste of space.

Brock did more in DP than Urara did, but while people bitch about the former, they don't bitch about the latter because the latter wasn't even IN the 180 episodes she served no purpose in.

Brock, however, spent about 180 episodes of DP standing around in the background being useless. That's bad. And that's unfortunately the direction the SM gang seems to be going in.

>>31625546
Maybe for you.
I enjoyed them a lot, and as far as I can remember plenty of people here liked them too.

>>31625546
Yeah, this. Not like Contests were that much better, honestly, but at least there was some sense of direct competition where you'd often have coordinators facing off against each other instead of having each person just do a dance/act on stage one at a time.

>>31625570
People here did like them, but again mainly for the narrative aspect, the spaghetti and the waifus

>>31625576
The faceoffs were always a mess, and back when DP was airing, it was a common complaint that the score meter dropped as the plot needed it to rather than based on anything you could imply from looking at the battle itself.

It's the same as with the competitions in Aikatsu. They're fun enough to watch, but it's usually impossible to tell who's winning until the song is over and they announce who won.

>>31625576
Yeah. Also contests were in two series, so from DP they corrected AG mistakes.
Also, one of the Tripokalons problem was they used same-y performances and sometimes even skipped them, there were no real serious rival for Serena(aside Elle but her performance was skipped)

>>31625526
Alright, don't take this the wrong way, but it looks like this is one of those situations where we have to agree to disagree. You want to focus only on the Pokemon battles while I want then to split it between battles and SoL stuff. We can argue endlessly over it, but it ultimately comes down to we're each looking for different things in the anime.

The only thing I'm going to seriously address is that I believe the anime is going to be slowly developing the companions over the course of the 3 years and that the stuff in the first 12 episodes of 100+ is only the start. I see no reason why they should be cramming every single tidbit about them so early when they are going for the char-focus in lieu of CotD stuff for the remainder of the season. For me, I like the slower pace SM is going for. You might not like it, and I get that, so while I disagree with your opinion, I wouldn't say it's wrong either.

>>31625597
Yeah, it's a common problem with shows like these. Oftentimes the characters end up winning just because the writers decided they won, not because there was any true rhyme or reason to it. It would take more trouble than it's really worth to explain to the viewer ahead of time how one knows a contestant is doing well anyway.

>>31625597
At least Dawn never won because plot needed it, like May.

>>31625561
When did they ever promote them as 'main characters'?

>>31625625
If they're not main character, then "there's a huge cast this time" isn't very valid damage control, since XY had more regular characters than SM and the only one people really complained about was Trevor.

>>31625613
That's fine. I hope they are fully fleshed out later on, but it's just a tried and true rule in TV show writing that viewers need a good "hook" to persuade them to keep watching. Can't assume that most of them will want to wait a full year or two to find out why they should care about key cast members.

>>31625561
Brock's character in DP a was basically 50% Pokemon battle exposition, 50% attempted rape.

>>31625637
That doesn't make any sense. If they're not promoted as main characters and it has a large cast, why are you expecting main character-esqe development for each of them, especially when there's an actual main character?

>>31625638
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I'm just tired of seeing the 'present everything and the kitchen sink in the first volume and then petered out into filler-hell and unfulfilled hype' that a lot of anime and manga has been putting out. Slow burning and comfy stuff is something I prefer after all of that.

>>31625649
Because other series managed to have multiple main characters and give them decent focus. It just reads like shitty damage control when the painful lack of focus the entire SM cast gets is excused with "well they're just side characters".

>>31625649
They are promoted as main cast members the same as any previous series. Hell, just watch the OP, no need to reach for any marketing materials.

>>31625695
XY spent 47 episodes slowly setting up Serena deciding on her goal while giving her considerably more focus than anyone in SM have gotten so far. I assume you agree that everyone complaining about this is stupid, right?

>>31619544
>And the Rocket Gang are after the grand prize
This is the retarded thing about the descriptions. Of COURSE the rockets wont win since they never win whenever they get into contests with Ash and his friends. Its stupid to even mention them

>>31625849
>he didn't watch the orienteering episode

>>31625820
There's slowly setting up her goal, and then there's spontaneously annoucning a completely new and unheard competition that no one has heard of before but perfectly allows a complete newbie Pokemon Youtuber to win her way to second place of the region through stuff that had seemingly zero connection to performing and dancing (Rhyhorn taming? Really?).

>>31625820
Not only that, but we had a concrete reason for what might drive her character on the show. Fuck, we even got it in the very first scene of XY. We weren't left wondering "okay so why is she even here?" as has been the case in SM so far.

Serena's first year overall was still pretty bad, but at least I had a good sense of why she was on the show and what to look out for.

>>31625928
>it's okay when SM does it
wew

>>31625928
"Plot contrivances" guy is that you again?

>>31625952
You can't tell me her breezing through the competition as a first-timer, finding, not one, but two Pokemon that specializes in peformances, elimination events that focuses on cooking and Rhyhorn taming, and getting scouted by the awesome Manager, are not 'plot contrivances'? And let's not forget, Serena didn't lose because Ellie was better, but because Serena, herself, lacked 'heart'.

>>31626033
That's literally the driving force of every mc in every competition-based piece of fiction ever. You win because of your passion for what you're doing and because you're doing it FOR someone, rather than because of skill and hard work.

>>31626087
And I still call those MC out when they get their victories handed to them. We have people endlessly bitching about this shit on /a/. If they don't get a pass, Serena shouldn't either.

>>31625546
>some good Serena's scenes like haircut
How was that good? It's always a bad thing if a girl ruins her long feminine hair.

New bred, corrected the SM15 title:
>>31626127
>>31626127
>>31626127

>>31626117
I know. But you always know it's going to come. Expecting anything else is silly.

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>>31621388
>Best girl pic related

I cannot argue with that

>>31626117
Then neither do Dawn, May or any other girls who have won shit in the past. It's literally all "plot contrivances." You shouldn't watch competition/sport related anime if you seriously get this assmad over such things.