/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon General

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>what went right

Pic related

Fuck, my old thread is dead, what happenned

>>31331886
Some idiot was spamming threads, a ton of tabs i had 404'd

What are some things to avoid when writing a PMD fic?

>>31332139
writing a pmd fic

I have a starter/partner request for Super if possible.

Me - White Kyurem

Partner - Black Kyurem

I hope someone can do it so I can view the amount of fuckery that happens.

Thanks.

>>31330911
Did feel the epilogue ending in Super to be very lack luster

Compared to DTS and Gates

>>31332139
I guess you should avoid mentioning human technology and advanced technology since the PMD world relies more in magic and mysticism.
Obviously not doing it overly done grimdark and edgy.

>>31332139
Dont make it edgy as shit

Can someone make Sceptile(Mega) and Delphox as player and partner characters please?

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so this happened on Spriters Resources

Few tilesets are still missing, seems like the guy has forgot about them.

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>>31332139
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1591992/ScytheRider

Go under writing tips. They provide only general advice, not advice on writing PMD fics specifically.

The only advice I can give you as a non-writer is:
-Don't butcher it like Super
-Don't be too dark and edgy
-If you try to expand upon lore or provide exposition, be sure that it makes sense

>>31330911
>What went right?

AI was much smarter.
In non-story missions, you can switch leaders at any time.
Alliance attacks
Music
No PP-Zero traps everywhere

>>31333858
>No PP-Zero traps everywhere
Confirmed for having never entered Sacred Ruins

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>>31333858
>no pp-zero traps
>being this delusional

>>31332139
I'll forgive anything that the others have mentioned, but the one thing I can never forgive in any story is a boring main character.

>>31331944
what was he posting?

>>31334730
cringe thread goodraposter edition

>>31332375
https://mega.nz/#!ldJWmTKS!nSFEeRcNWpbGtr69KF9aeLUPn7XokD55p2XNNg44NUA

What would be the worse mon to use in a run of Sky's main story? Like, it makes the game fucking difficult.

Out of any mon, not just the starters.

Thinking of getting explorers of the sky on VC when I bring my wii u in next week, can the game be played with pro controller with gamepad on the side or do DS games on VC require using the gamepad regardless of if the screen is used or not for functionality. Already read the new to MD thing, so I already know about all that.

>inb4 >buying roms

>>31335251
I'm pretty sure you need the gamepad to play the game. I don't think other controllers can be used.

>>31332196
If I set the values to White Kyurem and Black Kyurem it works when I go to the next floor, but when I get out they go back to being normal Kyurem.

>>31335251
>not emulating it so that you can use custom starters at some point in the future

>>31335533
WiiU's VC is an emulator, and every WiiU can be hacked right now

>>31335220
Many non-starters can be tricky to use if you don't buff their stats because starters have better stats than most other Pokémon, so they're weak by comparison.
Though using shit like Wobbuffet, Abra, Kecleon, and the cocoons sounds pretty painful. Or how about Hippopotas+Shedinja?
Smeargle seems like it might be a more fun challenge option.

>>31335205
Thank you!

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>>31335520
I see, thanks for trying anyway.

>>31335956
Apparently Kyurem randomly becomes White or Black when you use it after you unlock the Reshiram and Zekrom dungeons. So maybe it does work if you have two normal Kyurem in the postgame

>>31335378
Just going to emulate it then, don't have the time or means to try to fix some of the issues with my gamepad's analogue sticks and dpad right now, also, is SMD really as bad as some people make it out to be before I buy a copy saturday?

>>31337403
Super is great.

I'm right at the part where Mew gets kidnapped but due to a series of unfortunate events I'm fuck out of items and underleveled.

What should I do? Currently I'm going in no items and dying just to level up a bit.

>>31337639
I'd suggest spending some time revisiting easier dungeons (either from ingame or from Pelipper Island) so you can gather items and money from them. Also, go to Sahra Town so you can get the Prison Bottle and bring Hoopa with you. He makes things a lot easier.
But if those two options aren't available for whatever reason then disregard this message.

>>31332941
Is Silver Resistance really worth getting into? I looked at it, saw it was 700k+ words long and still going, and thought 'nope.'

>>31335980
I see. It's a shame, but understandable.

Thanks.

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>>31339259

I didn't get it, what's the deal with the new Mew at the epilogue of Super? Did it just magically pop out of nowhere or does he get reborn every time he dies or something?

>>31339772
This actually made me kind of mad. The whole reincarnation shit was pretty pointless since we never really learned anything about the past lives. If that mew was the same one, then we might have been able to learn something about what went on in the past, but nope, it was pretty much an entity that was completely unrelated to the main story

>>31339868
I'd be fine if the next game didn't pull the whole "someone has to leave" thing at all.

>>31339939
Wonder how they'd do their ending instead? If it doesn't pull emotional heavyweight punches, people will just go 'huh, that ending was so bleh compared to the others' Though literally anything is better than Super's ending

For me, it's more the set-up that needs to change. I'll be disappointed if they go for a player-partner thing again.

>>31339868
Now that I think about it, did the game explain the human? Like, why was a human necessary at the DM battle of the past? Why bother summoning one?

>>31340568
Humans and Pokémon coexisted in the past. Or, at the very least, humans existed in PMD's past (friend areas in Rescue Team confirm this much). Knowing this it's not hard to imagine them fighting together against DM without summoning.

>>31340568
Humans in the PMD world are something confusing and always changing, in Sky they kind of exist and are as rare as legendaries pokemon, in Gates to infinity they live in other universe and can be pulled to the PMD world but can't stay too long or they end up causing problems by just existing, and in other they are creatures of fairy tales.

>>31340460
Something that i feel super was going to do and got me really excited about the ending was that i wanted MC and partner to go on an adventure to find a way to make the MC stay in the pokemon world only to be told that he never had to leave

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So Espurr is best PMD girl, right?

>>31342111
Assuming your Super partner isn't female, yes.

I just picked up Super Mystery Dungeon off the Eshop. What's the best character?

How does evolution work in PMD? i

tried to inject red rescue team in my 3ds, fucking saving doesn't work. i quicksave and then it says the data is corrupted and deletes it. anyone else have this problem or just me?

>>31342170
Pancham/Ampharos

>>31342179
It's a known problem. Quicksave is broken.

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>>31342170
Ampharos is the best character

>>31342173
larger moveset and possible ability change. Outside of that, nothing. Dont evolve if you like the pre-evo more than the evo. Older games gave a pitiful +5 to all stats for evolution, not really worth it

>>31342179
Everyone has that problem and there's no known fix. If you have another DS game with the same save type you should be able to load the BRT rom with nds-bootstrap, but loading is probably going to be slow. Also, I haven't managed to make it run myself for some reason. But I heard it actually works. Maybe it's one of the games that takes like 10 minutes to get to the main menu. Hopefully nds-bootstrap will get better in the future.

>>31342173
In RT, Explorers and Super you need to go to a specific place and ask to evolve if the conditions are met.
In AS and GtI the game asks you to evolve while you're in a dungeon if the conditions are met.

>>31342243
It's the GBA version, does Blue even run through SD card yet? I remember there's like only a few games that do.

>>31342179
>>31342243
One of my friends got it to save on his 3ds, going to see if he remembers how

>>31342289
I know. BRT is supposedly one of the games that does.

>>31342312
He says you have to run it through mGBA. Says it saves fine, but the sound's a bit off.

>>31342170
you mean the stronger pick for you and your partner?, if it's that then it's chespin and charmander, chespin gets multi hits attacks that hit hard if they land and charmander get dragon rage and other strong moves.

>>31342326
Oh OK I understand. So I should just play Blue instead? How do I know which games have what save type?

>>31342353
>So I should just play Blue instead?
If it actually runs well I don't see why not.

>How do I know which games have what save type?
If you put the card in the 3DS and launch TWLSaveTool it will tell you what type it is.

>>31342387
obviously, you need to make a backup of your saves before you start playing because it will delete whatever save you have in the card

>>31342387
>>31342405
I've been meaning to buy a flashcart anyway, might just wait for that. It'll probably run it better/load faster too.

Trying to pick: Mudkip or Totodile for player character?

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>>31342593
Pick the cutest starter

>>31342593
Mudkip is more cute.

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Wanna connect?

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>>31343376
I want to take Ampharos to a dungeon and watch him wipe out an entire Monster House with Discharge

>>31337978
It's the most popular PMD fic ever. It even has spin-offs and fanfics of it.

"Pokemon: The Unknown Continuum" has half the word count. It's basically Explorers's story, but with some changes in events, gives some character development, and provides extra backstory.

"Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Overthrown" has less than 200k words, but it's not finished and hasn't been updated in over a year. The creator is stuck with college crap. If dystopian stuff strikes your fancy and you don't mind an incomplete story, I would highly recommend it.

There's also comics if that's more of your thing:

PMD: RAD
>Nothing dark so far.
http://pmd-rad.smackjeeves.com/comics/2138526/pokemon-mystery-dungeon-r-a-d/

Tales of Elysium
>No humans in this one. It's pretty dark.
http://www.ssp-comics.com/comics/toe/?page=1

PMD: Victory Fire
>There some crossing between the main series, PMD, and Colosseum.
http://victoryfire.smackjeeves.com/chapters/43098/book-1-the-girl-and-the-ghost/

PMD Comic: Blue Rescue Team
>More lighthearted and comedy oriented
http://xofks12.deviantart.com/art/PMD-Comic-Blue-Rescue-Team-1-1-581896821

>>31343517
The special episode 5 one some anon posted here some time ago was pretty cool

>>31339939
>>31340460
They could have a character that isn't the player or partner leave for good. Maybe some noble self-sacrifice would be a nice change of pace. They could even bring that character back by making the sacrifice involve an inter-dimensional crisis (with Ultra Space), so they're not actually dead.

>>31343632
Where?

How would you guys feel if you had more than one partner throughout the main game?

I know one thing I would want in an ideal Mystery Dungeon game would be recruited mons playing more of a role in the story -- like just set a few different personality types, assign them randomly (say, natures) or by species, and have the third Mon act / at least react accordingly.

>>31339939
Next game both you and your partner leave

>>31343794
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/28222863/

>>31343829
It'd be nice, especially if you could choose from a wide variety. Just starters+pikachu is boring

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>>31343376

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>>31345228
Leave.

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>>31345257

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And if you said this thread ain't bumped enough
I would make a post to push it up
I could post some art to help you get your (You)s
Because you're so smooth

Just need to make sure this thread doesn't get archived prematurely by the time I awaken.

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Post about times you were 100% fucked, with no possible way out.

>no items that could help at all

>>31345228
god I love this image, no homo

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>>31345986

>in one of many Sacred Ruins runs
>be on floor 8
>doing pretty good
>walk into a large-room monster house
>a fucking Shedinja spawns RIGHT in the middle of the mons
>in particular, a Larvesta
>it kills the Shedinja first and evolves
>nope.jpg
>make a run for it
>come across the stair room after a bit
>I get cornered by 3 mons and the Volcarona
>have nothing to help me out of this, and my attacks only do 1 damage to the Volcarona
>slowly watch as it rapes the living shit out of me and my only 2 tiny Reviver Seeds

>>31349242
At that point i'd just go into the menu and hit Give Up

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>>31345986
I don't have a picture, but there was this time when i was playing Super, and i went to do a bunch of missions at the desert continent, i was really low level for that zone and to kill anything i had to use wands and team attacks, everthing was going ok-ish, i had died twice due to long range skills that keep hitting my partners, and was running low on revive seeds, so i was on my final quest of the dungeon, i finally hit the floor where the pokemon that wanted me to visit it was, and i enter the room and get welcomed by it and then this text appears ''you have been teleported to the middle of the room Zoroark teleports away laughingYOU HAVE ENTER THE MONSTER HOUSE''
So there i am surrounder by pokemon that are waaay above my level and the first thing i try to do is use my sleeping orb to try and run away, which would have worked if it wasn't because one of the pokemon in the room knew uproar, and so it waked up everyone and then i got fucking beaten to pulp, i didn't even had a escape orb to run away.

Guys i'm replaying Blue Rescue Team and have some questions.

>Are Legendary recruit rates effected by the team size limits? If i solo Stormy Sea with a Zapdos can i recruit Kyogre at the end?

>What's a good mon for Fiery Field. My Blaziken and Persian seem to keep getting fucked and every time i die i'm losing my stamina band and shit since the dungeon forces a quicksave at the start of it I can't savescum..

>>31349923
>Are Legendary recruit rates effected by the team size limits? If i solo Stormy Sea with a Zapdos can i recruit Kyogre at the end?

Yes they are. If you take Zapdos only, you can't recruit Kyogre due to the size limit.

>What's a good mon for Fiery Field?

Water types obviously, but you can make it with your starters (I solo'd it with an Absol). You're gonna need the Trap Seer IQ skill, throwing items, and orbs if you wanna make it. Bring an Escape Orb or 2 if you're close to dying so you can regroup and try again without losing your items.

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>>31349923
>Are Legendary recruit rates effected by the team size limits?
Yes

>What's a good mon for Fiery Field
Wooper, it prevents all explosions. Fuck it, just main it in general, it's great

>>31350056
>>31349985
Thanks. Do you guys have any tips for grinding in general? All my shit aside from my starters and the legendary are low leveled as hell

>>31350176
One more thing i was wondering about, does beating a dungeon allow for requests there to appear? I finished solar cave and haven't seen any requests for it appear.

>>31350176
Run the hell out of Uproar Forest. It has a lot of Gummis. Get yourself Super Mobile.


Other places that spawn a lot of Gummies are Magma Cavern, Sky Tower (only the first part) and Stormy Sea

it's time to buff your mons

>>31350176
>go to uproar forest
>get a shitload of gummis
>forcefeed them to your main mon IN THE FRIEND AREA
>if you see a test box saying a stat increased you did it right

Doing this, literally any pokemon can be OP

>>31350217
>i killed entire western cave twice because fuck mewtwo and died only to sandstorm and hunger damage with a baby pokemon, gaining about 12 evels per each run

gummis are the food of gods

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>>31350235
>Mewtwo is the strongest pokemon
>gets 1shot by an armless axolotl spitting water

It even gains IQ faster than most pokemon, the weakest gummis give Wooper like +4 IQ

>>31350206
Are any gummis good or should i only use the correct type ones?

>>31350318
Fairly sure the only thing that type only affects how much IQ it will get (with dual-types getting IQ even faster due to how it was coded in Rescue Team).

On very rare occasions you'll get lucky and get +1 to all five stats.

>>31350331
>two only
I can't into grammar.

>>31350318
Same type matches best, followed by types SE on the pokemon, like Yellow being very beneficial to Water types.

I just shoveled them all into Wooper, though

>>31350331
What color should I five to mudkip and vulpix in sky?

>>31350361
Blue and Red. Explorers nerfed Gummis, the boosts are now 1/2/3/4/5 instead of 1/2/3/4/7 and for dual-types will consider the better matchup only. Explorers also added Nectar that is flat +10 and Wonder Gummi which is flat +15.

The whole system isn't as broken in its entirety as now only Palkia gets to destroy walls for free and the levels actually get high in later dungeons (the strongest five Pokemon in Rescue Team, level-wise, are Keks, Western Cave Skarmory and the legendary birds in a rematch fight; everything else is like in late 40s at BEST)

>>31343517
For the comics, I can definitely recommend RAD. It has good art and is funny, although the author is unfortunately pretty busy so it updates at a very slow rate.

Victory Fire is great, lots of crossover between various aspects of the series. It has a good mix of action and humor, updates frequently, and is nearing completion.

Blue Rescue Team is also fantastic but sadly has not gotten an update in half a year or so. I can't find any comments by the author so there's a good chance it won't be finished.

I didn't really care much for Elysium. The tone just didn't seem very fitting for Pokemon, but the art is good. I'm sure some will enjoy it.

>>31350349
I thought that iq has a cap like the contest stats in Gen 3 and 4 where if you give pokemon suboptimal food they can be permanetly fucked. Is that not the case?

>>31350520
Nope.

Not shoving Gummis down their throats is a mistake.

>>31350520
IQ has a cap. The stats have a cap, a separate cap. 255 for every non HP stat. Once you get Super Mobile you're at max IQ. So if your favorite pokemon happens to be unevolved and not a starter, feel free to use it, it can become strong enough to 1shot everything around if you work at it

Would you be okay wiith Chunsoft doing special episodes again like the ones from Explorers, but as paid dlc?

>>31350799
The episodes were the best part of Explorers, so I'd be interested.

>>31350799
Yeah, sure. Probably the only time I'd be OK with DLC in PMD.

>>31333858
>Alliance attacks
I feel like this is a double edged edged sword, since the game expects you to spam it whenever possible so most pokemon have shit attack stats.

>>31345228
Hot.

>>31350517
Do you know any others?

>>31352238
I don't really know too many other PMD comics. Most stuff usually barely passes the first chapter or has been on hiatus forever. You could probably search on smackjeeves or other sites for Pokemon comics and find a few. There's some enjoyable Nuzlocke's on there if that fits your taste.

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>page 8

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>>31350799
You're asking me if i would like more story and content for a game that i love?
Nope, that's stupid, why would i?

name my new explorers of sky team. leader is cyndaquil, partner is riolu

i usually just name it memes but you all decide with dubs or 7

>>31354665
Cindy's Love Shack

>>31354665
cucks

>>31354665
Bidoof's Brigade

>>31354665
Memes

>>31354665
Fug Club

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>>31354787

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>>31354787
good name

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I'm at the point where I can recruit, and I remember the chingling saying something about using a badge to recruit, but I never see an option relating to a badge, and I end up killing targets before they can offer to join my guild, what am I doing wrong? Also, my entire team is level 11 at the moment if that helps with anything

>>31355809
The badge stuff is just flavor text. When you defeat an enemy there's a chance they'll ask to join your team. The chance increases with level and certain items. Also I think you have to use a move, I remember reading that A attacks don't cause recruitment but that might have been a myth.

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bump

Does the rule about leaders having to ko enemies to recruit them apply to legendaries?

>>31330911

Honestly, tell me, is the game worth going all the way through?

Im on the first (I thibk) dungeon to lively town, and I think the game is too short and fairly shit.

Please prove me wrong.

>>31356474
You're like halfway through. Most people beat the main story in 20 hours and there's plenty to do afterwards. I wouldn't call that short.

These games aren't the "it gets good 20 hours in" kind. If you don't like what it does don't force yourself to finish it. Maybe go play the older ones if you like the formula but don't like Super. If you've played those then eh, don't know what to tell you. It's a great game imo but most people here think it's shit.

>>31356665
only meme lords think its shit dude

>>31356474
Super feels really really short, it's one of it's biggest flaws, the pacing of the story is bad and as such you feels like you're advancing waaaay too fast, but since you're at that point you might as well finish the game.

>>31356665
Super is fantastic

>>31356474
>and I think the game is too short and fairly shit.
Have you opened the connection orb? You'll be playing this for weeks dude. The story is the weakest part of the game anyway.

>>31355809
Get wooper for bomb defusal

>>31356876
How do I recruit a wooper when me or my vulpix partner oneshots most of them?

>>31356893
Have the leader KO them. If Vulpix is a problem turn off their moves for a bit. It doesn't matter if you use an A attack or move, you just have to be next to them. It's luck based though, keep at it

>>31330911
i want to play the older mystery dungeon games, any idea where to get the roms, been forever since i emulated and my torrent tracker sources only have the newer games available.

>>31357002
Read the OP. It's all there.

>>31357002
It's literally in the OP.

>>31357044
>>31357048
does it have the ones for GBA and all that? Assumed it was just for the DS ones

>>31357124
The GBA one (Red Rescue Team) is an inferior version of the DS one (Blue Rescue Team). I'm pretty sure you can find Red on emuparadise if you really want to play that version but you should play Blue if you can.

>>31357173
Oh, alright thanks.

>>31356410
pls respond

>>31330911
Which one should I play for my first time?

>>31357320
Blue Rescue Team.

>>31356410
I don't see why it wouldn't. They're treated like normal enemies in every respect other than them getting their own room.

>>31357207
It's been a while since I played but I think it depends on the game. Yes for Rescue, and it's situational for Explorers. For instance Dialga, Palkia and the lake guardians just join when defeated.

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>find a kecleon in a MD with a revive seed
>pick it up and try to steal it
>the kecleon starts spamming attacks that deal 200+ damage and wipes my entire team two times over
>both the seed I picked up and the one I had beforehand wasted on a fucking kecleon
GODFUCKINGDAMNIT

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>>31357429
log

>>31356474
The plot goes places at around 3/4, so I would say finish it.

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>>31357429
>>31357446
you fucked up. come back later.

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Bump

So i heard people usually make custom portraits and sprites for Sky, so, is there any way to have as a starter a pokemon from say, gen V or VI in Sky?

>>31357401
They have different text when you're about to recruit them

>>31359327
It would be possible, but nobody has done it yet.

>>31359327
Maybe if the sprites were coded, the movesets were coded, and just all around an entirely new pokemon coded

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>>31359445
>>31359472
So, there's nothing other than ideas, fuck.
How come that there's so many rom hacks and fangames of the mainline and yet there's nothing for any PMD

>>31359599
Because PMD's engine is hard to hack in general and rather complicated.

>>31359599
the main series is more popular
Well, there is a little more than ideas anyway, there's documentation and even some tools

Oh boy, I just realized that the new Nintendo Direct could possibly nuke the catalog. Brace yourselves.

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>>31359911
get your bumps ready

>>31359911
fast board is worst board

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Which player/partner poke has the cutest facial expressions for you?

>stream starts
>first thing they say is paid online
Just closed the window. Somehow I'm not as interested anymore

>>31360191
Can't say i blame you.

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>>31360191
It was to be expected, that's another thing I'm going to need to pay for annually on top of psn
did they mention how much a yearly subscription to whatever the name of the switch online is? Just going to check a general overview tommorow because I'd rather watch the chaos unfold on the rest of this board

>>31360234
i'd be willing to bet 50 bucks a year, since ms and sony do it too

where are the video games

I never asked for these ice cubes

>>31360234
20

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>SMT5 and FE Warriors announced
I didn't think starsfags were going to get BTFO this fucking hard

>>31342111
That is not Deerling-senpai

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>>31360600
monthly or yearly, because that's fucking insane if it's yearly

Well, on the bright side this thread isn't going anywhere.
But now I'm disappointed in the presentation.

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>page 7

>>31360884
stars would have been disappointing either way. not as disappointing as paid online with ONE FREE* NES/SNES GAME PER MONTH of course, but still
zelda and mario were the only things that looked good, but we'll have to wait like a year for that

>>31330911
So whats the accepted mystery dungeon tier list?

Is it the following?

>best
Super Mystery Dungeon

>good
Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky

>medicore
Red and Blue

>bad
Gates to Infinity

>meme
Wiiware Garbage

>>31343794
They did this with groyvyle already. Atleast if you played Times/Darkness over Sky.

>>31360105
Chikorita does. No one ever uses her as a partner though.

>>31330911
fuck off furfag

>>31361904
Funny way of spelling vulpix

>>31361907
Eat shit and die

>>31361813
>accepted
There isn't one. And there probably never will be.

>>31361865
Arceus ass-pulled him out of the paradox (in Sky). Didn't need to happen since we don't even get to recruit him anyways.

If you invent a reasonable possibility that a character isn't dead (cave collapse, stranded, human destiny fulfilled), the other characters can get him or her back. This has happened before, but it involves asinine shit like wishing. What would be interesting is if the post-game either was about (A) rescuing you from where you're stuck in while you wander the mysterious place; (B) you get rescued by your partner replicated the ritual that got you here in the first place, but now you have to fix the problems caused by you coming back.

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>>31360105

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>>31360105
Chespin is the cutest pokemon that isn't from Wooper or Mareep's line.

safety bump

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>>31360105

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>when you enter a dungeon but forgot to activate the mission

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I can't bring myself to play any of the PMD games after completing them once. For some reason it just makes me feel dead and empty inside.

>>31362080
>(B) you get rescued by your partner replicated the ritual that got you here in the first place, but now you have to fix the problems caused by you coming back.
Gates to infinity did this, kinda
Some time after you leave, your partner is told of a cave that grant wishes and can bring you back but only if that doesn't disturb the balance of the universe, it does and the partner almost get himself trapped in the collapsing cave, but manage to bring you back

>>31361813
You could at least give reasons of why you like them or think they're bad.
Also was thinking about replaying Blue since the last time i played was a fucking long time ago and i don't remember anything other that i liked the zoo

>>31361813
>WiiWare
>meme
Here's (You).

>>31355809
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Recruitment

>>31364612
You oughta try recruiting everything in Blue and fill us in on your progress. Lot of stuff one has to do to do that that most people wouldn't ever think of doing otherwise.

Do stat boosting items in Super work like in other games where you can overpower a pokemon with them?

>>31365260
I've gone on the quest of recruiting everything in Blue myself, but decided to nickname every single mon to make it special.

I feel regretful because it's a little difficult to remember which mon is which. Feel like I should restart or something.

>>31364612
Fine

>super
Perfected the gameplay, making dungeons challenging, but not tedious. Best character development in the series and by extension, the best characters. Reasonably good story the twist on the traditional ending was refreshing.

>Darkness/Time
Improved upon everything in Red/Blue, but dungeons still had the problem of being tedious compared to Super. Worse characters compared to Supers, which made the slow first half of the game worse as it felt like most of the things we did were pointless (Super atleast used this time to develop your partner's character). Still, the second half of the story was solid. Ignoring how Sky ruins the ending of course.

>Red/Blue
Was good for its time, but is dated compared to newer versions of the game. Dungeons were really annoying in later parts of the game, not in a challenging way, but a tedious one. Pretty weak story and forgettable characters.

>Gates
Far too easy, too few starters, mediocre story, a massive step back from Time/Darkness.

>Wiiware Garbage
LOL

>>31366200
>Worse characters compared to Supers
You're a faggot, yup yup.

>>31366245
Neither of you are entirely wrong. The characters that got developed via special episodes were varying degrees of good but everyone else fell pretty flat in my opinion. Without the special episodes I probably wouldn't think too much of those characters.

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>>31357320
Gates to Infinity! Not even kidding.

The game gets into the story quicker (Most of the games start really slow), it has really good characters, and the story has really nice writing.
Not to mention that the game is super-comfy, even when really gnarly things start happening.

>Blue and Red Rescue Team aren't terribly involving
>Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky take too long to get into the awesome parts (But they are worth it)
>Super also starts slow, and the writing isn't as good as Gates. (It has the best mechanics though!)

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>>31367623
emolga's CUTE

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>>31366200
>Super
>Best character development in the series

I don't think so. There was a lot of information and lots of characters in Super, but none of them changed much from the beginning of the game to the end of the story except maybe Nuzleaf.

Compare that to say, the partner in Gates, or Emolga, or Dunsparse, or even Virizion. They all had very distinct personalities, and yet, they all change a lot by the end of the game.

I mean... Even when climbing the last dungeons, the characters were changing, and the story continued. Also after all was done and the game was over, the last Frism showed that your quiet disappearance was not your final gesture to your partner, but their final gesture to you--you weren't their crutch, but rather their friend. It's a subtle thing that you don't even realize happened alongside all of the other developments until you are already gone. And yet, you can always recall it like that when you think about it.

That's some damn good writing.

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>>31369015
STOP GIVING ME BAD V-WAVES

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>>31360105
No one mentioned Oshawott, huh?

I always thought it had some of the best expressions.
Chespin was way up there too.

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>>31370811

>>31370699
>>31370794
>>31370811
>>31370830
Thanks, I finally have the chance to save them

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>>31343517
>Started reading RAD
>Get to this page http://pmd-rad.smackjeeves.com/comics/1863118/testing-day-page-8/
>Realize that this is the same artist who did Jello Rescue Team, a comic I've read on DA 7 years ago that had a male gardevoir named Frank
>7 years gone in a flash

>>31370830
im not a furry or anything but emolga makes me HNNNNNNGHHHH

TSOOOOO TSUUNDEEERREEE I JUST WANNA

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>>31371604
emolga is cute

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>>31370830
>>31370811
>>31370794
>>31370699
Virizion pls go

>>31372397
ANGERY

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I'm here to bump!

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Now that the Switch has different boxart dimensions, what do you expect from the eventual Switch Mystery Dungeon box design?
Shit man, I'm running out of relevant topics

>>31366200
>>super
>Best character development in the series and by extension, the best characters.
Yeah, like remember how much love the kids at the school got?, like that coward goomy that at the end still was a coward and once you move to the next town he and all of the other school kids but Espurr got totally forgotten to the point that you don't get to see them ever again?
Also gotta love that character development for the members of the expedition society

How come no one hacked gates to increase the fucking text speed? It is the only thing that keeps me from playing it after getting used to super's

>>31374218
The same reason we don't have any mods at all for Sky or custom portraits added to Super.
We just don't have any talented person interested in modding any of our PMD, and even then from what people say, it's just too hard.
So get used to holding that B button.

When will this bidoof stop being dead weight, dumbass got himself knocked the fuck out

Has anybody played the MMO? Is it any good?

>>31375900
>Partner with randoms for a mystery dungeon
>All they contribute to the bag is apples
>They burn through my revival seeds because they rush into every room
This is why you need to form a proper team with friends

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>you will never get to play these games for the first time again
>you will never get to learn all the neat tricks that make dungeon crawling more fun for yourself again

>>31341259
>Something that i feel super was going to do and got me really excited about the ending was that i wanted MC and partner to go on an adventure to find a way to make the MC stay in the pokemon world only to be told that he never had to leave
Isn't that pretty much what Gates did?

>>31373895
>That fucking scene where Mawile finds out the impostor Bunnelby because of a random word

The expedition society characters really got shafted when it comes to development

>>31377482
>a random word
It makes a little more sense, actually
https://kantopia.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/how-does-mawile-spot-the-imposter-in-chapter-18-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-jp-vs-eng/

>>31377508
I'm aware that te jap version makes sense. But since they couldn't use that speech quirk in english they could have given Bunnelby a more memorable speech quirk like Corphish's "Hey hey". Would have made that scene better.

>>31377508
>>31377580
In the Italian translation they decided to avoid using grammar at all and made Mawile say that he moved was weird or something like that. It doesn't make much sense either, but I personally think it's a bit better than a random word. Does anyone know how they handled it in other languages?

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>>31377602
I just checked a video of the Spanish version (not my language, but very similar). In that version Bunnelby uses female pronouns to refer to himself during that scene, which only Mawile notices. Simple but effective I guess.

>They fucking call the game Pokemon MEGAmysterious World

>>31377726
>Megas are only playable if you find a random item that has a temporary effect and that disappears when you leave the dungeon, with their only appearance in the plot being one fight where the form isn't even mentioned

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>>31377753
They really dropped the ball with showing off Megas. I was hoping that it would be shown off by Ampharos or Mawile coming in to save your team.

>>31377726
>>They fucking call the game Pokemon MEGAmysterious World
As a spic that's the fucking worst. I wasn't aware since I live elsewhere now, but god damn did they fuck up the title.

That said, I think the spanish translation makes more sense, since it's probably an oversight from the impostor that bunnelby is a male. It's also more in-line with the japanese version where the impostor uses a male pronoun while bunnelby usually refers to himself as genderless.
English doesn't have first-person gender-specific pronouns, nor gender-specific adjectives, so it wouldn't work, sadly. Working off of a grammatical error (that I noticed inmediately as well, and thought was an error from the translators) is very awkward, however.

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>>31377726
>He just said "I"! Our Bunnelby never speaks of himself in first person!
So I guess they made him talk in third person for the whole game so that this part could be translated correctly?

>>31377867
>Working off of a grammatical error (that I noticed inmediately as well, and thought was an error from the translators) is very awkward, however.
I agree, that's the one I like the least so far.
Japanese>German>Spanish>Italian>English
French is the only one left now

>>31377726
>He just said "I"! Our Bunnelby never speaks of himself in first person!
So I guess they made him talk in third person for the whole game so that this part could be translated correctly?

>>31378051
>>31377932
>>31377910
>>31377903
"In other words: Bump"

Let's play a game!
Pick which Pokemon you'd ideally want to be in the PMD world.
You are sent to the habitat that fits that Pokemon best. Your partner choices are limited to Pokemon who live in the same place as your chosen Pokemon, in any Pokemon game, but you may have more than one partner if you wish.

Who do you choose as a partner / partners and what life do you make for yourself in the Pokemon world?

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>>31378325

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>>31377932
I found a French video of the scene: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AjWMluELkFk

I don't know French, so someone will have to clarify it. But it seems like it has something to do with the way he said it or the grammar.

>>31378325
The bigger question to me is: How could we even choose? Is there really just one mon (or line, I guess) you'd rather be for the rest of your life? If so how would you take that decision?

>>31378561
Seems an easy choice to me, just make sure you meet a few conditions:
-Reasonably human-shaped
-Strong and fun powers
-No annoying or debilitating limitations

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>>31378325
Lucky for me they were on the same route

>>31378688
Are you one very persistent anon or is this duo a meme?

>>31378732
One very persistent person, since i go out of my way to use both of them in every game

>>31378732
I know there's two anons that are quite identifiable
poochanon and wooperanon

>>31378779
Poochanon's been unusually silent about his waifufagging these days. I hope he's okay.

>>31378838
He's alive, don't worry. He helped me hack my 3ds last week

>>31377508
>>31377602
>>31377726
>>31377932

This all makes me wonder: are there any other scenes in the games that are likely to be different like that in each language?

>>31378505

Lemme try:

Bunnelby never says "of my [propres mirettes]"!

After Google Translate:

Bunnelby never says "of my clean [mirettes]"!

t. 3 years of public school French (I haven't used it in years, though)

>>31379084
Googling "mirettes" shows that it seems to mean "peepers".

>>31377726
I wouldn't have a problem with the tittle since it works pretty well if it wasn't because ''mega'' is in white making it look too boring, would've been better with the letters being rainbow colored instead.

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>>31378325
Assuming we have to pick a basic, non-legendary Pokemon: Cyndaquil, because he shoots fire, curls up into a ball, and because I usually tend to get Cyndaquil in the quiz.

But ideally I would be Gengar, Greninja, or anything that is sneaky and good at escapes. Golisopod could also be one since he can claw shit away and Emergency Exit out of bad situations (somehow). Also he's a chill guy who don't want no trouble, which is not so different from me.

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>>31374218
It looks like they were going to include it in the options at some point. Maybe they even implemented it and it somehow went unused? I don't know.
I looked at the names in the code.bin of the game and found these. I don't know if this could be useful and I don't even know if it actually works as it is (if it didn't it would kind of explain why it isn't in the final game though).
I tried editing the save file, changing the value I assumed could be the text speed (0x37C9 in game_system), which was already set to 04. I changed it to 00 and 14, but I haven't noticed any difference.

>>31381173
that's pretty weird, i was actually surprised the first time i played the game and realize there wasn't an option for the text speed, it seems like such a obvious thing to have for a game with lots of text

starting SMD and the quiz gave me Piplup as my PC which I'm sticking with, but gave me tepig, so I'm going with a different partner, should I go with snivy or fennekin?

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Super Mystery Dungeon's plot reminds me a lot of Tales of Symphonia.

>>31381516
Fennekin is stronger and highly favored by /pmdg/
On a personal level, I prefer totodile or Chespin

>>31381522
I haven't played Sympgonia but I remember there used to be a T-chart of the two games going around showing what plot points they had in common.

>>31381516
Fennekin is the answer you'll get most. Barring the fact that Fennekin is cute, it's also a hell of a lot more useful than Snivy.

>>31381516
Riolu

>>31381516
Chikorita is fucking adorable, pick it

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>>31381680
I'm not a lucariofag though
Also, already went with fennekin, is there any way to get the other starters later on because I at least want a serperior for postgame
Named her Caster

>>31381567
I haven't seen that chart so I'd be interested in seeing it.

Basically, it boils down to the way the story has you thinking one way and then pulling such a huge 180 that you get whiplash. I thought the plot in Super isn't even stellar, the writing is average, but the emotions you get near the end make up for all that.

>>31381718
water starter + Riolu looks cute because they're both blue

>>31381718
You'll get a Pokémon for every species later on

Speaking of starters I noticed that you can get some of them multiple times. Venusaur makes sense since it has a male and female form but I have multiples of others like Meganium and Blaziken to name a few.

Anyone know why this is?

>>31382024
gender differences

>>31382033
Didn't realize Meganium had gender differences. It really is the worst meme GF ever came up with.

What would a good exploration partner for Bibarel be? I'm starting a new run of Super with different starters soon, gonna start with Bidoof/Bibarel but I want a different partner too.

Whimsicott, Joltik, Oddish, and Pumpkaboo all resist Bibarel's weaknesses, and Bibarel resists all Scizor and Escavalier's weaknesses iirc. Castform also has the mask thing going on but its boobs are awkward. Drifloon looks cute with Bibarel and Bidoof, and Golduck is often found in the same habitats as Bibarel (I also like the duo of derped first evos -> more serious second evos).

I've thought about this too hard. I have 8 pages of notes.

Would you enjoy it if the next Mystery Dungeon included more side-job-like things to do? (Similar to how the mainline games have battling and Contests/Pokeathlon)

I'd really like to explore what else goes on in the world of Pokemon, y'know?

I swear, Riolu shivers like an autist everytime it gets sad
>But... it's just so fun to mess with 'partner'

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I put a Tyranitar with Sand Veil as my online rescue Pokémon and now I sort of feel bad about it

>>31383355
Tyranitar is a good partner to have. As long as you are cautious (and those god damn long distance spammers fuck off) then the sandstorm is actually a good trade off. Sandstorm also fucks off after a while, right? It's fine.

>>31383197
>Would you like more varied stuff to do in your game?
Why do people are so bad at asking questions, here, let me fix it
>What type of side-jobs-like things would work in PMD or would you like to see?
Now that's better, and for an answer i think i would like for you to be able to make a shop in the town where you can sell your things for a price set by you and that you can make special items for selling like ''Mix this ice you got on this ice themed dungeon with some of these berries and make ice cream that you can sell at a high price in your store''
Also something that i would like and thing it would be fun would be to do pvp hunt quest, where 2 players rush to get to the floor where this boss is waiting, and see how can get the last hit on it, there would be no orbs allowed but you can use wands, so you can use it to paralyze the leader of the other team or teleport the boss away so they can't finish it off

>>31382633
jirachi

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Which forgotten/unpopular pokemon would you like to see getting screentime at future PMD games?

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Ampharos or Wigglytuff?

>>31384869
why can't there just be normal art of these two?

Ampharos is better anyways

>>31384869
Is the guildmaster gay and does his ass ravagings make random things explode?

Just got to Ancient Barrow and I'm just letting the rest of the team do the work for me. Haven't used a single move.

>>31385967
>not using every opportunity to level up your moves

>>31368030
Regardless of Gate's shortcomings, I will always appreciate it for the one and only good story Pokemon has ever given us

>>31386142
Honestly, i hardly remember it's problems other than the slow text speed, not being able to get the materials for upgrading buildings to level 2 until late game and i never got a problem with only seeing gen V pokemon since i like a lot of pokemon from that gen.
So for me, it was a nice PMD

>>31385967
>>31386077
Ah fuck, I thought the girantina shadow was going to be a ruse.
I have a single slumber orb, wands of each type, oran berries, two reviver seeds, and two blast seeds. Hopefully I'm not fucked.

>>31386540
YOU CAN DO IT

>>31386540
So, how was your ''Giratina'' fight?

>>31385764
I'd assume Wigglytuff is either asexual or gay, but not interested in sex. He seems to pure for me. Ampharos, on the other hand, I don't know.
I'm not saying this because "muh asexual snowflake" crap, its just that I don't see a child-hearted go-lucky guy being the type that is into romance.

>>31387645
ampharos is asexual panromantic

>>31383197
I was thinking about the following:
>In each dungeon, there are certain ingredient/scrap items that are found once every 3-4 floors. On their own, they have no properties other than vendor trash, but you can take them to a guy who can help you synthesize those items to make something such as a potion, wand, orb, etc. There are short minigames where depending on how well you preform the delicate task of assembling, infusing, cooking, etc., you get items that, even with no effort, are highly useful and efficient.
>You can increase your exp., base stats, and move level outside of dungeons with a certain minigames. Could be a barrage shooter thing.
>There is a theater where you battle and say lines similar to Pokestar Studios, except the room is smaller and the view is also at an isometric-ish view instead of a top-down. You can follow the script or go off-the-rails (ex: either before acting or during the play, you can swap an item secretly that is supposed to be thrown at you later by another actor, and instead of it being an item you're supposed to dodge, it's instead a creampie and you can let it hit you for comedic effect).

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I think I broke her

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>>31388235

Holy shit chatot is an asshole, give me my dinner faggot, i dont care about your bitch guild masters pussy ass apples, why dont you go spend my 5000 pokedollars and buy some you cuck

>>31388235
I love making my overly peppy partner feel like shit. Especially since it's a riolu.

>>31388275
That's the best part of Explorers though, getting humiliated over and over before doing good and getting respect.

>>31388277
I want vulpix back but having a stream running in the background tanks the framerate to shit
also is your partner's personality in EOS related to what starter the game gives you, because I relate way too fucking much with my partner

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>>31388275

>>31388294
Have you ever worked on an empty stomach? Its not humiliating, its fucking horrible.

>>31388294
Respect would be not taking 90% of my reward.

>>31388294
>Get defeated in a cutscene
>Not getting a chance to fight Skuntank later
He's the middle finger in character form

>>31388346
This. Gengar was miles better

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>>31388346
>You never get to beat the fucker's shit in
I still haven't gotten with the rest of the expedition because I'm still salty about this dumbass bidoof and this still fucking infurates me
new thread when?

>>31388294
No, that's the worst part about explorers, getting to eat shit because retarded stuff like this
>''What the fuck, you retards didn't brought the perfect apple, what the fuck is wrong with you''
>''But team sk-''
>''shut up i don't care, both of you are failures and need to be punish for it, i should take 99% of your mission rewards from now on instead of the 80% i usually take just to make up for how much of a failure you are''
even if after that you get a nice scene from how everyone else in the guild respects you it's still a fucking bad way to get to that scene.

>>31388448
I thought he always took 90%

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>>31388325
>reward gets taken
>turn to a life of crime

>>31388454
I played explorers of darkness a good time ago, so i forgot how much was it, still such a fucking retarded thing from that game, like why even tell you that every time you're gonna get your reward, it's not like after getting X amount of coins for the guild, you would unlock an event or get a thank you from the guild.

>>31388325
>>31388448
I don't know, it's stuff like that, everyone turning on you which forces you to become a fugitive, and Lombre getting the shit beaten out of him at then end of R/B rescue team that I like.

>>31388522
i don't remember anything from rescue team so i don't know how good was it done in that game, but in explorers it was done pretty badly in an annoying way

>>31388556
In rescue team its done pretty good. Gengar is a real piece of shit and turns everyone on you because they fear for their lives and you match a certain description to a T. You and your partner also fight back when the time comes and arent completely overpowered

>>31388831
Why can't your character just attack Gengar 's trustworthiness as a person and as a species? Society is probably too primitive to have developed advanced rhetoric and anti-prejudicial ideas, so just play on their fears and suspicions and also bring up the fact that not only did they steal your job and threaten to press Metapod into service, but also that they are named "Team Meanies".
Maybe I'm missing something.

Anyone got any good exploration team card templates? It'd be cool to do a "rate my team" sort of thing during lulls in the thread.

>>31386574
>>31386726
Actually pretty easy, though that's probably because it was just a really strong solosis. Forgot how overpowered blast seeds were.

>>31343517
>It's the most popular PMD fic ever.
Wouldn't that be PMDE? Technically it's a group that has ceased to exist and all the content has been taken down by the creator, but it was pretty popular.

>>31390043
gah, why did purplekecleon have to ruin everything for all of us

new thread needed

>>31390238
>page 5
not yet

>>31390243
thread has hit the bump limit

>>31390263
There's still 5 more pages until it 404's, no worry

>>31390275
I swear to god if i wake up and nobody's made a new thread

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