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NA regional in Dallas this weekend
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>>31042880
Intimidate incineroar will fucking destroy vgc
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>>31042880
Wait, how do you get the Gen 7 starters HAs?
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>>31042958
You don't.
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>>31042880
>NA regional in Dallas this weekend
Is it gonna be streamed on the official twitch channel?
And by the way, which are the next streamed events? Doesn't matter if they're in another language or if they're not official
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>>31042958
You don't, hence the meme.
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>Intimidate Incineroar will be hype
>but will make Milotic more popular and I fucking hate fighting Milotic
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>>31043048
This, Milotic is my most hated Pokémon
Such a pain in the ass to fight against
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>>31043125
I hate Landorus-T more, so Milotic grew into me and now it's one of my favorite bulky waters.
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>>31042976
>>31043010
>Intimidate
>Hidden Ability (available)
Why does it say this
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>>31043048
>>31043125
Just run Koko or Bulu or Kartana or Gastrodon you fags.
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>>31043216
How dense can one person be?
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>>31042955
http://pastebin.com/uXqWHiSM How is it looking now? I realized I have 3 rock-weak mons, what could replace aerodactyl? I didn't know what item to put on bulu, so there's a temporary figy berry.
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>That feel when from just looking at your and your opponent team you feel your win is guaranteed then look at the leads and feel your win is even more guaranteed but somehow your opponent completely fucking outplays you in a manner where you don't know what the fuck is going on and you have already lost before realizing it
How can I get rid of the BTFO feel?
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>>31043300
iktf my man
Yesterday a lead goodra-arcanine fucking 4-0ed me, and they both had >80% hp left at the end of the battle. Worst feel.
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>>31043300
To beat a shitter, you have to play like one.
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>>31042957
If you're running Z-Crystal on Lele, I'd just nuke the problem pokemon, especially against rain teams. If you don't, I'd think about it. I wouldn't rely on Celesteela to attack anything outside of its Heavy Slam tho.
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Holy shit I fucking hate Muk bulky piece of shit I hate you and how you don't die and how you knock off my shit and my Marowak most of all reeee
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When bank comes out will Sheer force rampardos be a thing?
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>>31043851
If it's not getting much usage now I don't think Sheer Force will improve it that much.
It could be quite strong paired with Oranguru but I don't really see it being too popular.
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>>31043688
groundium Z garchomp
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>>31043990
I hear a rumor that it's apparently really strong when paired with Trevenant and Incineroar, but don't take what I say seriously.
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>>31042977
iirc dallas will be streamed but not on the official channel
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>tfw I don't entirely like vgc but I somehow keep coming back
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>>31044361
Let it consume you
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>>31044006
>Have Garchomp but no Garfield out
>Fucker always protects on my face
>Garfield and Garchomp are out together so I can Feint it's shit
>It always switches out
I HATE IT
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>>31044361
Maybe you are just tsundere. Time to start wearing twintails.
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>>31044334
in which twitch account then?
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>>31043216
nigga
the joke is that men want his hidden ability to be available
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>>31044765
no idea but i'm sure people will be tweeting it
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>>31044361
Play singles in a lower tier
OU singles are cancer but when you get down to RU or below it gets way more balanced
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>>31045070
I'll be there
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>>31043383
OK, thanks. Anyway around Lele's lower speed?
Also anyone know why my post was deleted?
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>Snarl Sp Atk drop goes through Sub
Well, that's total bullshit.
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>>31045674
'Cause it's a sound based move.
Speaking of which, why is Sparkling Aura considered sound based?
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>>31045747
Oh right. I forgot that.
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>>31045747
sparkling aria
an aria is a form of song
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>>31045896
>aria
Oh duh, well that makes sense.
While we're on the subject, how prominent is substitute this gen?
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>It's impossible to make my Lasagna Cat survive a Lele Moonblast 100% of the time no matter if it's Timid or Modest
>Timid is a 50/50 at best
>Except no Scarf Lele runs Timid and that's the one fucking my shit up
>Modest is like a 10% chance to survive at best
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>>31046228
Jesus Christ, you are autistic.
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>>31046277
t. sub 1000 shitter
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>about to reach 1700 in WCS
>start loosing one after another
>go down at 1520 again
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>>31046461
>Not recognizing the tilt and stopping and rest for a while
>Loosing
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>tfw you outspeed something you aren't supposed to outspeed
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>>31046461
js you probably got lucky with team matchups on the road to 1700 at least some of the way
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>>31046071
it's pretty popular in this format. the elephant in the room when it comes to sub is celesteela but there's so many bulky mons that slapping sub on everything is even a meme at this point. anything bulky that can afford to waste the moveslot can viably run sub, so you'll see it on gastro, magnezone, bulu, etc.
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>>31046541
Yeah I have a slow ass tapu lele that outspeed some niggas garchomp. I thought the little nigga was gonna switch but sure enough I 1 shot him with psychic. Bet he wasn't even wearing assault vest.
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>Playing carefully vs this fucking stupid Muk with my Fini
>On a perfect position to kill it with two Moonblasts without the berry activating
>CRIT
>Lives in red
>LOL BERRY XDDDD
>Drop it to one Moonblast KO range again
>Survives in red, again
>Kills my Fini that was cockblocking the rest of this team and lose like a bitch
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>try to make a team that works
>can barely break 1250 on the ladder

>make a meme team for fun
>immediately break 1400
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>toxapex used stockpile
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>>31045625
Was that your only deleted post? Sometimes when someone is banned, all of his posts are deleted regardless of what one caused the trigger.
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>>31042880
>men really want Incineroar's thick barbed cock inside them
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Anyone got any good spreads for Tapu Bulu?
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Confusion wasn't actually nerfed.
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>>31051695
I've been using Bulu with 252 hp, 116 atk, 140 def, adamant and Miracle Seed.

116 atk and Miracle Seed is slightly stronger than 252 atk with a different item, and the defense evs let it live Poison Jab from Garchomp
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I'm new to vgc, what are some fun meme teams?
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>>31047392
The highest I ever laddered in VGC 15 was with a Discharge Thundurus-T alongside a Ring Target LightningRod Rhyperior with four special moves.

It was the shittest idea I've ever had but somehow it worked wonders.
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>>31051695
I have adamant 252 hp 64 atk 36 def and 156 spDef with rockium z and stone edge to catch unaware marowak's. It survives Pelipper's hurricane and Metagross' meteor mash. Can take a -1 garchomp poison jab and has a 60% chance to take a full atk one.
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Will it's hidden ability ever be avalible or no?
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>>31053914
why would you have a ring target on it?

also tfw too lazy to build a team for smogon vgc tourney but theres money involved
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Is tsareena any viable in this metagame? I would like to use it, trop kick seems fun, also Teeter shenanigans, but I can't figure a proper moveset to make it viable.
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>>31054861
>>why would you have a ring target on it?
So that the Discharge would boost it's sp atk rather than fall on nothing because ground immunity.

>1084 sign ups
Jesus Christ.
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>>31055251
She has Feint.
High Jump Kick could be fun to deal with Porygon.
Queenly Majesty is a decent enough ability.

She can work but she's simply not something you drop on every team and 99% of the time using something like Bulu or Kartana are your grass type is a better option.

Basically, only use her if through some miracle only she manages to fill a hole your team needs filled.
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>>31051770
does this set really work for you? which moves are you using?
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I wanna make a sand team. I know Gigalith and Gastrodon are pretty much mandatory but what other Pokemon can I use?
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>>31056348
garchomp?
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>>31056348
Kartana?
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>>31043383
Trick room rockslide, why y'all niggas such garbage. Sub, seed, slam, slide
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What are all the good lele killers in this meta?
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>>31056348
Celesteela
Stoutland gets Sand Rush and After You.
Don't feel like you need to restrict yourself to Pokémon immune to sand, though.
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Can any mon in this format 1KO a bulky muk?
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>>31056508
Mudsdale with high horsepower.
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>>31055337
>She has Feint.
No she doesn't, it's a post Pokebank move only passable through Breloom.

>>31056348
As someone who actually has played a Sand team something which can shit all over grass types and Bulu in general. They will be the bane of your existance.

Stoutland is also mandatory, it's basically the lynchpin of Sand teams and you will find this is the thing that wins your games.
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>>31056508
252+ Atk Life Orb Mudsdale High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Muk-Alola: 198-234 (93.3 - 110.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
Realistically that's the best you can hope for
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>>31056508
Tectonic Rage Garchomp
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>>31056508
How bulky are we talking? Because Muk builds vary quite wildly, most are just straight up 252HP but if we're talking optimized with minimal attack and defenses + HP it gets harder.

If you include Z-moves quite a few things can pull it off, one option nobody except the actual users of it consider is Gigalith. It just straight up OHKO's a 252 HP Muk with a neutral attack.

Without Z-moves you still have a lot of options, some have mentioned Mudsdale, I'm guessing you mean options which can kill it whilst not getting killed in the process. If you think out the box Helping Hand is a option the distribution isn't too bad.
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>>31048162
Oh. I was over calling a tripfag a tripfag. Oh well, how can I complain when they do it for free?
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How good is buzzwole?
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Tapu fini and bulu with guardian of alola seem kinda good desu. They put p2, celesteela and any other mon that your team may be slightly unprepared for in range of most attacks from your other mons. You do have to sacrifice both a move slot and an item slot, but I feel like that's easier to do on these 2 tapus as their terrains already funcion sort of like items.
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>>31057059
not at all
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>>31051770
>>31055937
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>>31057269
i'd try it with bulu because it definitely has a moveslot to waste
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>>31057754
this
I might actually try it, the life orb set I use is pretty worthless
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is this the place for replays?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7vgc2017-506286034
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>>31056407
muk counters all tapus, so does salazzle
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>>31051710
Any one have evidence for this?
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So i'm assuming you all play on showdown?
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>>31059235
Battle Spot is better for practice, but showdown's good for testing new teams
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>>31058915
Minimize muk paired with grassy terrain support seems like an actually viable strategy. It basically has no weaknesses and all the time in the world to set up.
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>>31059235
inject them and test them on BS
much better than showdown
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>>31059839
>inject them
Why is literally everyone saying this to me when I say anything.
Did the in-console browser bug thing come back that makes it so you don't need custom firmware to hack 'mons in now or something?
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>>31059894
>He hasn't hacked his 3DS yet
You literally have no excuse anon.
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>>31060877
My excuse is that i'm on current firmware.
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>>31059235
I have a sort of guide I go by-
I battle test on Showdown to see if my team can take gimmicky mons or shitters. If I can get a w/l of about 80% than I move to Battlespot to see how I fare. If I can get about the same ratio on BS than I consider it tourney ready. I also tweak when needed.
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>>31061068
Also take notes. Notice trends. Record constant bad/good things that happen.
Write hypotheses about what you expect to go well/wrong, and follow up on what did and didn't, and why. You not only notice trends from yourself, but from the meta as a whole this way.
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fuck off m8
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>>31054078
>>31051770
What are the movesets that one would use for Bulu? Been trying to use him instead of Koko just to try it out
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>>31062725
Stole this to give you an idea

Tapu Bulu @ Miracle Seed
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
EVs: 244 HP / 116 Atk / 140 Def / 4 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Horn Leech
- Substitute/Disable/Superpower
- Protect
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>>31062725
Wood hammer to nuke things, horn leech if you're going for a more defensive set
Second move is usually superpower
Third move protect
You have a lot of variance in the last slot. Some people like nature's madness or substitute, but I prefer rockium z stone edge z-move to surprise opposing marowak.
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>>31062725
Personally I've been running Horn Leech/ Wood Hammer/ Whirlwind/ Protect. I chose Whirlwind because I'm not very impressed by any of its coverage options, and my team needed a way to stop Trick Room setters.

Basically the last slot just depends on what your team benefits from the most. Substitute and Leech Seed are both really good options.
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>>31062725
I've fallen in love with Bulu running Leech Seed, Horn Leech, Protect, and Sub. I run it with a status berry which has saved my life a few times.
As long as you have counters for the match-ups you can't just stall out, you still hit hard vs favourable matchups and you're nearly untouchable.
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>>31062725
it's very versatile and you may wanna tinker it according to your team. My SpDef spread runs Stone edge, Wood hammer, taunt and protect.
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I'm about to test nature's madness bulu on WCS
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If you build your Bulu bulky, just how much can they stand?
Also how does Guardian Of Alola work through protect? .75*.25=16.25% current hp?
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>>31063107
It's as you expect, still reduced to 1/4 of normal damage.
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>>31063107
>Also how does Guardian Of Alola work through protect?

Just like you said.
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>>31063107
Wolfe's Bulu from London is 252 HP / 36 Atk / 60 Def / 140 SpD / 20 Spe with Adamant. it can take a -1 chomp poison jab and a life orb koko dazzling gleam. also, neutral chomp poison jab only has an ~81% chance to KO.
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Why do people only carry Taunt on Tapus (if any)?
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>>31063785
>almost thought the same spread of a world champion set
wew
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>>31064307
sure m8...
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>>31064368

this>>31054078
is pretty similar
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>>31063994
there aren't many good taunters
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I miss M-Aerodactyl
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>>31065234
not relevant in any format except for flash battle
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>>31065256
I just want to be able to outspeed Tapu Koko instead of speed tie
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>>31063994
aren't many good taunters and they all have moveslots to spare
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>>31065256
Is flash battle different from flash clash (which didn't allow megas)?
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>>31065440
I assume he just typoed the name.
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http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/official-smogon-vgc-17-tournament-r1-team-submission.3590882/

Reminder to submit your team if you signed up for Smogon's VGC tourney if you haven't already.

Keep in mind that despite the tourney having 1024 sign-ups on paper it's nearly guaranteed that at least 1/4 of people will end up getting dropped for not submitting a team so don't let the high number of entries intimidate you.
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>>31065700
>Smogon
Cancer. I prefer circlejerking and shitpostg about the format in here.
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>>31065771
(you)
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>>31065771
>not wanting free money
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>>31065788
thanks for the doube (You), bby <3
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what is /vgcg/'s opinion on goodra?
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>>31042880
I like Salamence as an intimidater despite the Fairy presence. Would 252 / 252 / 4 modest be a good build.

Although I don't think there are many threats to be outsped (other than speed tying other Salamence) but Timid might be the more popular nature as is already. Maybe running more bulk would be more important. I think oustpeeding Smeargle with 140 is the minimum amount.
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>>31066193
Fucking annoying.

I thought I had a game in lock the other day with my +3 Fini and the fucker killed her with Power Whip.
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what kind of team would Lurantis work on
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>>31066221
I just realized Modest 252 Mence outspeeds Modest 252 Tapu Lele. That's important enough to run full speed.
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>>31042880
I can't wait until HA Incineroar gets released in 6 years.
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>>31066373
many leles run timid

>>31066284
it's bad
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>>31066284
TR with Oranguru maybe? Instruct Contrary Leaf Storm would be able to take out most things. It has a very shallow movepool though.
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>>31066503
rip me. Maybe bulky modest would be better for mence.
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>>31066284
A Petal Blizzard + Sap Sipper Physical Goodra nearly rekt my shit yesterday.
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>>31066193
good if your team has trouble with rain, but its damage output is underwhelming on neutral hits
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>The opposing Marowak ate its Sitrus Berry!
>
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>>31066706
>You knocked off the opposing Marowak's Assault Vest!
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>>31066756
>You knocked off the opposing Porygon2's Assault Vest!
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>>31066537
i'll try this
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>>31066284
it's really not good even for a grass type
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>>31066706
>The opposing Muk ate its Sitrus Berry!
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>The opposing Tapu Lele used Energy Ball!
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>>31067014
I'm always afraid of a random grass move when using gastrodon, or swampert back in 2015.
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>>31067065
I lost my Gastro to energy ball Latios on 1800+ BSD during vgc15. I'm now find myself always scared, when using 4x weak mons, of random tech moves.
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>>31067014
Man FFFFFFFFFFUck Gastrodon
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Do you guys go to irl tournaments? If not, what is even the point of playing VGC?
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>>31067131
>>31067065
I do this shit with anything that can learn Taunt when I run TR, and then their Gengar uses some shitty coverage move and i look like a retard switching out my porygon2 on a free setup
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>>31067419
No. Because doubles is a hell of a lot more fun/interesting than singles.
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>>31067419
I do, they're a lot of fun
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>>31067419
Singles is boring
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>>31067419
>Do you guys go to irl tournaments?

I can't.

>what is even the point of playing VGC?

To have something to do after I beat the main game. Singles is fucking boring and doesn't let many Pokemon shine due to them being designed around doubles.
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>>31066284
literally no team, it is complete dogshit
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Which Pokemon are your current's team hang-ups?
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>>31067902
what do you mean hang-up?
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>>31067943
The Pokemon that makes you want to die whenever you see it on team preview because of how much of a pain it is.
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>>31067902
Arcanine is really obnoxious for my team
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>>31067960
a-muk
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>>31066756
>Marowak used Shadow Ball!
>Marowak healed it's health with Leftovers!
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>>31068015
>Haha I'll just nuke that piece of liquid shit with my Z-Move
>Survives in 3 HP
>Figy :^)
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who /magnezone/ here?
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>>31068191
FUCK OFF
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>>31068268
Hope your Marowak didn't need that Thick Club :^)
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>>31068261
Literal mememon.

Useless wasted slot if there's no fat lunarian on the opposing team.

Even fucking sonic steel is more useful than it.
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What are some other viable items for Gigalith that aren't Rockium Z? I already have another Z Move on my team, and I don't feel comfortable having two when I might need both of them in a single match.
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7vgc2017-506596560
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So what kind of teams are people using Xurkitree and Nihilego on?

Pheromosa is typically paired with Lele
Kartana is on rain or electric terrain teams
Celesteela works fucking everywhere
Buzzwole is on sun teams mostly
And even Guzzlord gets use rarely on trick room.

What are the other two used for? I never see them.
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>>31069795
No one cares about your sub-1500 games desu
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>>31069795
I always smile when gimmicky shit like this gets shut down, especially if it's with a popular Pokemon.
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>>31069795
The crits tho
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>>31069901
Nihilego is usually a suicide lead. Xurk kills with either Koko or Sticky Web support. But wtf is Buzz doing on Sun teams? He wrecks shit in TR.
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>>31070193
>suicide lead
>entry hazards in vgc
???????
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>>31070233
Where did he mention hazards
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>>31070278
Sticky Web.
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>>31070302
Well yeah, it just seemed like he was implying suicide lead=entry hazards

Anyway, Sticky Web could be way more viable than other entry hazards in VGC, since it's basically like having Tailwind for the last half of the match
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Can anyone answer me how move order works with Instruct? Does Oranguru always Instruct after the instructed pokemon? Does it happen immediately or based on speed? Does it reverse order in trick room and fails?
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>>31070417
Instruct doesn't have anything to do with move order. It just uses the target's last used move in place of Oranguru's move that turn
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>>31070417
It has no priority, so it's based off speed. An interesting thing is that, if Oranguru is faster than the target Pokemon, said Pokemon will use whatever it went for before that turn. Obviously, if it just switched it in or used Protect, Instruct will fail.
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>>31069901
>Seeing Guzzlord or Buzzwole more than Xurk or Nihilego
>Teams built around terrains
>Pheromosa + Lele

Wrong thread?
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>>31070468
thank you, that was what I actually wanted to know. It really is interesting that it would use a move from another turn.
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Sup, scrub from >>31010715 here.

Of all the teams I've tried, I think I finally found one that's easy enough for me to play and feel comfortable with. The team came from Costa Rica of all places as well, something I didn't expect. I also took your advice to suck it up and test shit on Showdown, and since the games go faster, I was able to gather a lot of information in a short period of time (~1 hour), so it's helping me a lot on Battlespot right now.

Thanks guys. Sorry for being a stubborn idiot last thread. Here's the paste of the team in case you want to try it out too:

http://pastebin.com/vM0kFZMS
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>>31072059
What's the scarf on Kartana do?
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>>31070380
I'd say String Shot is much more usable.
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huh
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>>31066193
Legit top end anti-meta mon right now.

Mixed Goodra shuts down all all of the Tapu's and Celesteela hard and can do a decent number on everything else.
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>>31072387
>still doesn't know what scarf does
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>>31076168
He's obviously asking why Scarf of Kartana of all things considering Kartana is quite fast already.
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>>31072387
Outspeeds random shit like Pheromosa, also Scarf Lele, Koko, other Kartanas, and in general it's great to get a fast and strong attack off on unsuspecting opponents.
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Foodking's disappearence has now been explained.
He was in jail for racial offences.
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>>31077082
Did he insult a refugee or something?
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>The opposing Torkoal used Fissure!
>It's a one-hit KO!

FUCKING JAPS REEEEEEE
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>>31077188
Something to do with one of his carers apparently
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>>31077497
>switch in pelipper
>the opposing torkoal used sunny day
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>>31077672
>tfw running sunny day on aerodactyl
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I've never gone to a live event, is there online registration beforehand or do we just show up at Dallas?
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>>31077672
I know a guy who game second in a 20-player PC using Sunny Day and Rain Dance Sableye back in VGC15
Manual weather always wins the weather war, and Politoed and CharY are completely fucked in the opposing weather.
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Meanwhile in spicland events
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>>31077979
Any info on the Dugtrio set? Just something like EQ/Iron Head/RS/Protect?
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>>31078058
Here you go lad.

Dugtrio-Alola @ Choice Specs
Ability: Sand Force
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Ancient Power
- Flash Cannon
- Protect
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>>31078079
I actually can't tell if you're kidding or not.
That would be so shit.
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>>31078105
Why would I lie in the internet? I mean, it's obvious that everyone posts their teams and movesets after participating on an event. I'm simply sharing it with you.
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>>31078079
>Choice Specs + Protect
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>>31078363
Scarf+Protect is a legit thing. Perfect for ebin ruses.
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>>31078005
>Buzzwole
For what purpose
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To the people discussing Foodking (heavily autistic and obese UK player) going missing a few days ago:
He's now re-appeared. Apparently he was arrested back at the end of November for racist abuse and has only just been released

The UK VGC community is such an attractive and welcoming bunch
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>>31078649
>Racist abuse
The what now? What does that entail?
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>>31078528
such as...
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>>31078649
>So, what are you in for?
>I said "nigger."
Really makes ya think.
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>>31079561
Sasuga British Caliphate.
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>>31079561
>countless people go saying shit like "fucking white people, I hope all of them die in a painful way, resurrect and die again but 10 times worse"
>nothing happens
>one person says "nigger"
>life-time prison

Racism is just a buzzword nowadays.
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>>31079639
Don't be silly anon, we all know you can't be racist towards white people.
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>>31078079
Sir, please don't waste our time.
>>31079561
I remember Muslim hate crime went up a lot when Brexit happened. Didn't think racism was so serious still though.
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>hidden ability available

Nani!?
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>>31070417
similar instruct question
is the target mon the instructed mon attacks random? i've noticed on showdown that sometimes i attack a mon, barely miss the 2hko and instruct to finish it only for the other mon to get hit on occasion
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>>31080197
i think so but don't fucking use instruct outside of spread moves
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>>31080197
That's probably a Showdown bug. Every single time I used Instruct Liquidation on my Araquanid in the Battle Tree, it attacked the Pokemon I targetted first.
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I'm in love with fast Arcanine. Snarl is too good.

What are your favorite mons this season?
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>>31081660
Figy Muk
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>>31081660
AV Hariyama. Surprise OHKOs are fun.
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>>31081660
Alola Ninetales. That switch to 109 speed and typing change makes it way better than droughtales ever was imo
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>>31081660
I'm loving scarf Xurkitree. The speed boost helps it out so much.
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>>31083094
My first Gen 7 VGC team had Tapu Koko+Raichu, and I found it so much more effective when I swapped Raichu for a scarf Xurkitree.
Modest 236 spe makes it underspeed Tapu Koko by half a point so you can Discharge to weaken the opponent, then pick up the Beast Boost with Xurkitree.
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1700+ ps player here, ama
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>>31083756
why aren't you playing on battle spot instead
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>>31083756
Hi how many times have you qualified for worlds?
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>>31083759
I played bs to 1880~ this season, it's very slow 1 game on bs is 5 games on ps I don't like it

>>31083770

0
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Gengar @ Black Sludge
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Perish Song
- Protect
- Substitute
- Disable

How is this for a Perish Song Gengar?
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>>31084481
No Shadow Tag/10
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>>31084481
I guess that's as good as you'll get?
The lack of anything with Shadow Tag means you'd probably be better off just using a standard offensive or balanced set with Perish Song tagged on for situations where you're 3-2 up and have no other answer to your opponent's Celesteela or Porygon2 or whatever.
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>>31084481
Probably not going to work. Perish Song this year is mostly a move you put because you don't need the last slot for anything else, at least in my opinion.
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So why did Nugget Bridge die? Too much jerking finally caused their dicks to fall off?
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>>31046819
Considering muk's berry activates at 1/2 health, how do you get to a point where you can 2 shot it without activating the berry?
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>>31084687
A hacker got to it, also managed to intercept all password entries for about six months before taking the site down, leaking them all publicly.
They've reverted to a late 2015 backup and aren't bothering with any content from the last year, which is fair enough given how shit the new blogging system was.
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>>31084687
It was hacked by a guy that supposedly attacked Showdown months ago.
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>>31083756
1700 on bs or ps?
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>>31084887
1700+ ps, 1880~ bs
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>>31084769
At least on Showdown (haven't tried it in cart), something like that is possible.

>the pokemon's damage rolls against muk are around 55% to 60%
>the muk is on grassy terrain
>your hit does 55%
>the muk gets healed to 51% before the turn ends, so the berry doesn't activate
(Note: I'm not sure if this is the intended behavior for the 50% HP healing berries or it's a Showdown bug)
>you hit it again next turn and you kill it

It's very rare though. Not him btw.
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>>31085146
Muk eats his berry as soon as the move takes him below 50% health
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>>31085168
I've been playing a lot on Showdown lately and that doesn't happen. For some reason those berries only activate just before a turn ends, when everything has already happened.
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2400+ ps player here, ama
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5700+ ps player, ask me anything
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>>31085258
2400 on bs or ps?

>>31085325
5700 on bs or ps?
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>>31085499
2400+ ps, 37000~ bs
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>>31085499
Yes to both
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I haven't even revealed my true power. My elo is 530,000.
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>>31085907
>sub one million
Just give up
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>>31085210
Yeah, that's not the correct behavior.
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>that guy you played and won against 20 minutes ago appears again
>they forfeit immediately

Why do people do this? I didn't even rekt him.
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>>31086843
>When you 4-0 the guy who beat you earlier
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pew
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>>31089293
nebby is so cute
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>Been playing Pokemon since RBY
>Still suck shit at team building and playing
It's no fun to just use cookie cutter teams.
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>>31090355
So, you're stupid?
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>>31090418
Probably.
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>>31090355
>played since gen 1
>find out in gen 6 that rock resists poison
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>>31090355
There are literally no cookie cutter teams this season so far. There are just so many good/cool options to choose from that the players haven't settled on anything.
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>>31090462
Could be worse. I discovered that like 40 minutes ago while using Gigalith. For some reason I also thought Torkoal was part rock until I got one in-game.
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>>31068524
Assault vest nig
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>>31078649
Looks like CWCs brother
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any spreads and movesets for Garchomp?
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>>31090355
Making teams for competitive play is very different to making teams for in-game, especially in doubles.
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>>31091231
Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Protect

Go nuts.
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why is cloud nine useful in this VGC meta?
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>That feel when you put your opponent in lock and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it so they forfeit
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>>31092674
Counters Torkoal and Mareep.
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Can I get some tips on Mimikyu sets for singles and doubles? Got two 6IVs and a bunch of 5IVs from my first batch, all of them jolly, so I want to have a Mimikyu for every situation. It's cute, that's why.
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>>31093034
Singles - standard SD should do (SD, Shadow Claw, Play Rough, Shadow Sneak)
Doubles - Z-Curse (Curse, Will-O-Wisp, Taunt, and I forgot what the last move was)
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>>31093119
>Z-Curse

Jesus christ how horrifying, I love it. Thanks anon.
Life Orb for SD Mimikyu?
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>>31066706
>You knocked off the opposing Marowak's Rare Bone!
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>>31092713
all types of weather are fairly common and it makes Drampa deal with rain/sun boosted attacks well
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>>31090355
Then why don't we help you build a team? It won't be 100% yours but you'll get what people think when they're building teams. The good and bad thoughts will be around here, but you'll learn a thing or two about the process.

Kind of a /vgvg/ builds a team.
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>>31093164
Lum Berry seems to be the standard since Disguise doesn't protect you against status
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>>31043048
Which reminds me, I can't wait to Pokebank my shiny Milotic to Pokemon Moon and kick some ass.
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is alola persian actually good
someone explain
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>>31093933
It's unable to carry Parting Shot online for the time being, so it loses a big part of what makes it good - shuffling mons in safely, and also being able to use Darkium Z both supportively and as a nuke in one set. It's still a very physically bulky support mon (many special attackers run Fairy-type moves anyway), and it's good at shutting down both offensive mons and support mons. Being fast makes it reliable (and it can still tank things under TR), and immunity to Prankster also helps.
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Does anyone have any decent spreads/sets for Celesteela, or know where to find spreads from VGC results?
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>>31077759
you need to register on pokemon.com and get a "play! pokemon ID". That's the only thing you need to bring
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Is Silvally even the slightest bit good?
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>>31094513
It's okay.
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>>31068261
/magneton/ here

fuck off memester
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>>31094513
it has a pretty good special movepool

ground silvally seems to be the most popular, with ice beam and flamethrower to hit shit
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>>31094513
Alolan Persian out classes it
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>>31094782
Parting shot won't even be that good when it's allowed again.
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>>31094800
If you are talking about tankiness and utility, Alolan Persian outclasses it.

>Access to Fur Coat
>Darkium Z
>Quash, Snarl, U-turn
>Assault Vest Build
>STAB moves such as dark pulse and foul play
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>>31094930
Yeah, but nobody uses Silvally as a bulky support pokemon.
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>>31094440
Trainertower has a bunch of sample movesets and ev spreads you can use.
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>>31095007
it does, encountered one that uses snarl, toxic and stab explosion while item being lefties.
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why is Alolan Exeggutor so underused?
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Just realized
>2015 Bank distribution was HA Johto starters
>2016 Bank distribution was HA Regis

I'd actually be surprised if the alola starters aren't a bank distribution as soon as it's updated
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>>31095060
>alola starters aren't a bank distribution as soon as it's updated
wait... there is actually an update for this?
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>>31095076
I just mean in January when bank becomes compatible with S/M
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>>31095076
There's an unreleased update on Nintendo's CDN right now.
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>>31042880
>availible
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>>31095035
Not sure, probably its typing? I think there's still a few unexplored Trick Room mons
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>>31095109
>another newfag not getting that simple as shit joke
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I'm messing with EVs but I'm far from done. Any help?

http://pastebin.com/jXtkkCCP
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>>31094513
It has the most powerful Explosion in this meta for what it's worth.

>>31084769
OHKO it.

No seriously, there is a reason Z-EQ Chomp is popular right now. Realistically there is no way you'll actually 2HKO Gluttony Muk.

>>31081660
Favourite as in most effective?

Definitely Vanilluxe, looks like a pile of smiling shit but it's ridiculously effective in this meta. I hate the thing to hell but I can't deny it wins me games.

>>31077672
It's a legit move if your weather setter has nothing better to run and you want to make sure your weather stays up without having to play Pokemon musical chairs if you end up with a bad lead.

Torkoal is definitely one of those which has nothing better to run than it's STAB + Protect.
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>>31095144
>another newfag not getting basic grammar
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>>31095299
What set are you using on Vanilluxe? Choice scarf?
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>>31081660
Kartana is so good.
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Decent moveset for Singles Koko? And VGC?

Wanna try the chicken fairy
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does someone know which twitch channel are they going to stream the Dalas tournament in?
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>>31095035
i think someone should try it out on a team similar to wolfe's, because it can beat gastro and goodra
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>>31095826
what is his team?
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>>31096318
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>>31096341
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>>31096358
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MIGRATE WHENEVER

>>31096614
>>31096614
>>31096614
>>31096614
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>>31066193
Absolutely fucking broken when paired with arcanine, good lord.
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>>31096784
What do you run on this?
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