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/vgcg/ VGC General - EU Championship Thread 9 - TOP 8

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Battle of Britain edition

Come watch the first major international tournament! Top 8 knockout matches have just begun, with the two remaining UK players up against each other on stream right now.

<<<Bracket

Stream: twitch/pokemonvgc_eu
Schedule (GMT): http://www.pokemon.com/uk/play-pokemon/internationals/2017/schedule/

VGC resources: http://pastebin.com/SzDiZaxp

Last thread: >>30675659
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>>30694387
Also, sticky pls
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First for Araquanid
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>>30694414
ayyy
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>>30694423
MODS = GODS
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>>30694387
> This one crazy motherfucker sporting a Hariyama

Atleast SOMEONE agrees that Hariyama is a bro
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So refreshing to see so many regular old Pokemon being used instead of the usual legendary/pseudolegendary stat sticks.
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>mods on /vp/
good day
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Chicken-chan will win it all screenshot this
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>Got an actual sticky

And there goes the thread, next time might as well put "PLEASE SHITPOST HERE" as the subject
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>>30694433
Hariyama is a total bro
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lets goooooo, hopefully we only have only english casters today fuck that stutter fag
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VERY STILL ROCK
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>FRZ

wow
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>freeze

ESPORTS
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>VGC
no one cares
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>Fightium Z Hariyama
ayyy
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>>30694440
There'll be plenty of lower-profile tourneys for more comfy threads imo, this is more of a hype tourney and one could actually give insight to people who wouldn't have come across it otherwise
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POST TEAMS FOR THE TOP 8 PLAYERS
Also post teams for the eliminated players and an older bracket if possible so I can see where my boys fell out
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>>30694469
http://www.trainertower.com/european-international-championships/
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>>30694387
>>30694469

TEAMS: http://www.trainertower.com/european-international-championships/
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>get FRZ
>lose

????
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So much for Kartana not seeing any competetive play.
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>>30694475
>>30694479
thanks
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>>30694485
It's a paper cannon. It's good, but frail as hell.
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>>30694475
>>30694479
>45th. Filippo Maccarini: 6 Unown
What did he mean by this?
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Thread already got 25 replies, let's make two new ones OP
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>Gigalith has the word giggle in it
Woah never knew
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What time is it for you guys watching right now?
2 am here
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someone tell me who to root for pls
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>>30694387
Were there any Beast Ball Porygons yet?
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>>30694518
8am
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Opinions on this team? http://pastebin.com/x3suDNBN
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>>30694518
11am
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>>30694529
shit. scrap it and start over
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>I can't believe Milotic survived

The dude probably invested enough EVs to 100% survive an unboosted leaf blade you fucking retards.
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> Love Ball Ninetales

My Balltism is pleased
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>>30694518
2 am pacific standard bros
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>>30694523
Mentally challenged amphibian uploader.
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>>30694518
12 AM here
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>>30694545
tfw no healballs
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>>30694518
11:10 AM Dutchfag.
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>>30694537
Suggestions?
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>>30694553
oops, I mean PM
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>two fighting types against a rock type
>two fighting types
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>2 fighting types
what did she mean by this.
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>>30694529
Remove HP Ice on Tapu Koko
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>>30694518
6pm
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>>30694553
Same here
where are you from?
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Are semi-finals or grands best of 5?
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I don't get why that gyarados didn't carry flamethrower.
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>>30694576
>>30694575
>>30694573

fighting type (move) :^)
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>>30694590
Somewhere in the ME desu
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>>30694591
nope
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>>30694539
>minimum 252 HP / 228 Def with Bold to survive unboosted Kartana Leaf Blade
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>>30694555
Heal/Love are both equal in my Balltism
Actually catching mons in Heart Gold to transfer in January for Balltism purposes.
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Why does this girl only use her right side of her mouth when she talks? Is this a common British thing?
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>american getting rekt by 15 years old italian
M A M M A M I A
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>>30694604
Now I can't enjoy her casting faggot
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> Ryan hart

N-NANI!?
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>>30694604

I think so. That smirking girl from Game of Thrones does it too
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>>30694604
Inbred genes
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Is this fucking Ryan Hart
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

BRING BACK THE QTP2T
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>>30694631
>that bitch
>qt
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>>30694600
^
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>that have a complete results list
>we don't

neat
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>British metrosexual Elijah Wood over here
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Noooooo, not this fucking german fuck.
BRING BACK THE QT GIRL WHO ACTUALLY KNEW HER SHIT.


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>30694626
>>30694622

Who?
Not trying to be a douche, but seriously. Every time this black dude pops up people are like "RYAN HART!!" he some britbong celeb?
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It's my boi krookoroak.
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>>30694654
FGC britbong
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Go Nico
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I have not been keeping up with this tournament, what are magnezones doing?
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why the cape though
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pepperoni mozzarella di mimikyu to you too
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>>30694677
Countering Kaguyahime
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>>30694675
Except for Tommy vs Michele (Michele won), yes.
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>>30694677
Fucking Rocketship Waifus.
That's his only use. trapping annoying steel types.
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REEEEeEEeEEeEEEALYYYYY
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DRAGOSCHIANTO FINALE

Also fat slug is fat
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Why is he allowed to cast?
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>>30694679
It's an Italian flag.
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>>30694719
This is the European intercontinentals, not the UK Nationals you know :^)
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>Don't talk to me or my sub ever again
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What ability did Arcanine just use to hit through subs?
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>>30694749
Snarl
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>>30694749
Snarl
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>>30694749
Sound attacks go through Sub
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>>30694749
I think he used Snarl
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>>30694645
That guy isn't German, he
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>watching games on Showdown
>so many people using Wolfe's team already
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>>30694771
is Italian or something
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>Blowing yourwin condition up for being greedy
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>>30694777
What was Wolfe's team again?
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>substitute in front of an encore
huge choke there
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>>30694753
>>30694756
>>30694757
>>30694758
Thanks people.
Does this include Disarming Voice?
If so, I'm glad I bred that to my Raichu.
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I really wish the graphic showed each player's team during the match, makes identifying possible plays so much easier
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>>30694777
Trips confirm showdown faggotry
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>>30694779
He's German you burger
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why didnt he just go for a heavy slam on Bulu
What the fuck was that sub
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>>30694793
Tapu Bulu
Alolan Muk
Salamence
Politoed
Magnezone
Porygon2
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SUBSTITUTE BTFO'D
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>>30694806
That's what's known as a choke
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>>30694777
> tfw half my team was already Wolfe's team
> tfw no-one will believe me now
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Skill
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>>30694803
That's not a german accent, and he can pronounce the z moves in italian. that guy is clearly not german.
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praise your RNG god.
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>that flamethrower crit under rain
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>>30694808
How does he run Muk and Politoed?
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>>30694826
>and he can pronounce the z moves in italian

Lol no he can't
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This guy makes the whole stream miserable to watch, he sounds like he's slowly dying
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>>30694837
yes he can, he did multiple times yesterday. and that is still very clearly not a german accent. believe me, I have to hear that shit at least on a weekly basis.
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>>30694821
Unless you run the same exact strategy nobody will tell you anything, same pokémon don't matter shit in this format.
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>>30694826
>>30694837
You two aren't talking about the same commentator.
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>>30694848
He's still not Italian, he can't really.
Unless he's one of those """"""Italians""""""" who were born in shit like Toronto and never lived in Italy or something.
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>>30694835
>Politoed
Sitrus Berry
Bulky. 0 EVs in Sp Atk if the calcs I ran yesterday are right.
-Scald
-Perish Song
-Encore
-Protect

>Muk
Figy Berry
-Knock Off
-Poison Jab
I don't think I ever saw the other two moves
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>>30694851
well I'm talking about the guy currently casting with the English native, the REEEALY guy, and that guy is very clearly not German.
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>>30694867
That's Matteo Dorrell. The other guy is probably German or Dutch
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>>30694880
The other non English commentator that always stumbles over his own words is German.
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Wear a goddamn tie.
If you are going to wear a jacket you need a white shirt and a tie.
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rip tobias, getting out-out-out-played
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Top Lel'd
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Bye Tobias
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>>30694921
he can still do it, remember nico choked the first game when he had basically already won it
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Tom "Cool" Coolene is going to run roughshod on these dirty euros.
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You hate to see this kind of thing happen.
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>>30694931
he already lost against based michele gavelli
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TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
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>>30694931
He's out la
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dat cheeky burn
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>coughing
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Pray for crit
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GERMANY BTFO
USA BTFO

I T A L Y D O M I N A T I O N

>captcha: select all pizzas
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>VGC Championship
>trainers in battle:

=^)

=^)

=^)

SM was a mistake
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>GOES FOR THE SHAKE
>DENIED
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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3 of the 4 12-2 are already in semifinals.

If Sekiam wins, the 4 12-2 would have qualified.
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>>30694978
he was signing some sheets, he probably gave him the handshake after that game.
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>>30694982
Regardless, he still went in for the shake and didn't get one back. Awkward as filthy fuck.
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FORZA ITALIA
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It is impolite to offer a hand after winning.
At fighting game tournaments the loser decides if we shake hands.
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>>30694996
Forza nico
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aye my nigga ryan hart
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>paw-kee-moan
Fuck off, you dumb fucking bongs.
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>>30695013
his team consists of gastrodon, tapu lele, arcanine, celesteela, patagarru and FRANCO
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Finally I can un-mute the stream.
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Who is this handsome guy on the left?
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>>30695051
We already had this thread. Take a hike.
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>>30695051
Are the people who watch Verlisify dead yet?
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Who's the chick ?
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What the fuck? How far along is Europe time-zone wise? I thought it was only 3~ hours ahead of the US East coast. But it's 630 here. Is it fucking 2am during this tournament? What the fuck?
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>>30695085
Just pretending to be retarded huh?
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who's gonna win the fuccboi derby?
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>>30695050
>Handsome

He looks like a shiny Verlisify.

>>30695100
Ever went to elementary school anon?
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>>30695100
5 hours m8, these things begin early
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>>30695100
It's around 6 hours ahead or so...

So its like 12 PM there...
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>>30695085
You played me like a damn fiddle.
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why does nobody use sand veil chomp with sand stream gigalith?
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>>30695054
>>30695060
>>30695065

> You're either a Verlisifag or A-OK with hacking.

The one thing that gets me with the hacking/injecting is when you do it wrong. Normally, you wouldn't know. But not only does it reveal you don't know shit about the ball legality, it also shows your flagrant disregard for the rules. Not to mention the bluntness of just throwing it out there.
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>cheeky damage
My god they actually talk like the cheeky Nandos people.
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>>30695129
nvm im retarded didn't see miguel was running gigalith
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Kartana is great but I think it is a bit too risky to bring it at this level of competition.
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>>30695136
>being a breedcuck
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>>30695136
You're the retard. Porygon2 is only accessible in game with ancestry from one porygon given in a POKE BALL

Dittos cannot pass it down and it is genderless so ditto is the only option
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I love when people choke their own plays
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>fake out with your own top lel
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>fake out into psychic terrain
SWEDEN YES
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>Fake out in Psychic Terrain
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>Bring Tapu Lele
>Use Fake Out with the other Pokemon in the same turn

LOL
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TOPU LELEL
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>not clicking tbolt into a celesteela
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>>30695133
Lorcy got the Pory in a trade from someone whom he trusted to give him a legit mon ffs
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>Bringing in Lel on your pwn priority move

I dont pay attention to VGC, is this bit of retarded stuff commonplace?
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>>30695176
yes because everyone forgets
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>>30695162
>>30695159
>>30695163
>>30695165

KEK
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>>30695139
It's the other way round fampai
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>implying the stupid girl will win
LMAO
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>>30695176
No it was probably just one of those situations where you think through your move and then make a last second decision
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Miguel coordinated outfits with his trainer.
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What is the notable spread and moveset for Gastrodon now?
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we esports
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>>30695210
There isn't any, everyone brings a different set for most pokémon
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god I hope the spanish faggot gets his shit pushed in by based Ben.
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>>30695212
>They bring one of the autismo casters back next game
>Viewers drop to 1000
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>UBs and Tapus the game
Fucking remove this cancer. It's genies all over again but even worse.
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>>30695238
Here we go, enjoy your easy (you)s
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>>30695238
Here they are
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>>30695243
>>30695249
I couldn't be more sincere.
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i play smogon so i have a question about vgc.

what impact will no guard machamp have? obviously it has checks, but if it gets to a point where you have no mons to resist it then what? obviously team composition would apply, but in the case that all you have left are things that die to fissure are you okay with that? is tpc okay with that?

is this even that good? scarfed or something machamp?

just wanted to hear some thoughts on it
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>All this Gastrodon shilling
>Not even the good pink Gastrodon
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>>30695238
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>>30695212
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>>30695259
>he likes pink or green
Faggot detected
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This is the first time I've seen Kartana in game. I thought it was a really cool mon,until I'm now seeing it weakly wobbling around like a drunkard. Will not use.
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>>30695257
>what is native only rule
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>having only one answer to Gastrodon
>it's fucking Kartana

well meme'd
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>>30695173
Wich is shitty of his friend.
I do feel for the guy.

In the end it's sad that it has to come to this. GF needs to do something about this. I personally enjoy breeding mons, but I can understand a lot of people would rather jump off a cliff.

Hyper Training could have been the solution, but they heavily dropped the ball there.

I guess my problem is more with the guys who inject because they feel themselves superior for not being a "breeding autist"

It's always shitty when the loud minority make the entire camp look bad. If they manage to get the QR scan thingy working properly it might prove an alternative. all we need is some genius who reverse engineers Showdown to show QR codes of full teams.
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>>30695173
Yes, and Rizzo got his dream ball Aegislash from a friend too.

I hack myself, but if you believe such petty excuses you're pretty silly.
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>>30695266
was unaware of that rule! how long does that last? do the rules change mid season?

>>30695265
its.. paper. its flimsy
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>>30695100
Lol you muricans are fuckin retarded. I'm glad europe is more than 3 hours away than your sub-human continent
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>>30695297
>origamis are flimsy
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what happened with the nigger with beast ball p2?
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>>30695306
thank libtards for dumbing down public education so you can be clinically retarded but still graduate high school
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>Not even Pink Gastro
REEEEEEEE.
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Fucking remove Celesteela, holy shit.
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>>30695327
You can only find East Sea in Alola
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>>30695288
I'll discuss whatever I damn well please, Anon.
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>>30695276
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>>30695327
Green > Pink
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Why not fake out and sacred sword? SS would've taken out arcanine, and then you could thunderbolt and whatever next turn.
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>night slash
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>>30695347
>>30651216
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>very defensively orientated
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why didnt he kill the Gastrodon?
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Such a toxic Stall team, that Miguel's.
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>>30695365
Even Leaf Blade at that range would have killed. Fake Out + Leaf Blade was obviously the correct move, only reason I can think of for not using it is that Garchomp in the back with Rough Skin.
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>>30695323
I can't hear you over my metric system and free healthcare you capitalist failed abortion>>30695323
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>>30695347
>>30695347
This has nothing to do with the discussion.
But whatever, I'll drop it. Let's just watch some Pokemans.
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ITALIAN DOMINATION
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Celesteela's got a big brain.
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That Miguel is toxic.
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And this is it. The four trainers who shared the swiss 1st place with 12-2 record in semifinals.
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>>30695393
Miguel is Spanish you dofus
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>>30695388
KEK'ed and checked
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>>30695402
Tansley was 12-2 too
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>Power items are tied to grinding shitty battle format
What the fuck were GF thinking? This sort of shit is why people hack. Couldn't even put them in the fucking battle tree where you can at least play a real format?
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>>30695393
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>>30695419
People only hack because they don't want to play the damn game properly.
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>>30695419
BPs from the Battle Tree can be used on the Battle Royal's prizes.
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>>30695419
What were they thinking with literally anything they do? Festival Plaza? Literally WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>30695419
Dunno, ask special Aegislash ;^)
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>>30695419
You do know you can use battle tree BP in the battle royal shops, right?
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Make sure you get a giant interviewer so all the players look like manlets. For fucks sake.
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>>30695419
you can grind points in battle tree and then spend them at the battle royale
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>>30695437
They ARE manlets
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is british slenderman just really tall or is spanish chad just a manlet?
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>>30695388
Italy here. Europe is a shithole same as America, both in the same boat, not sure what you are on about.
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DRRRRRRYAN
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>>30695427
Why would you when they do shit like that? It doesn't make the game fun it just makes it a chore.
>>30695432
>>30695435
>>30695440
Turns out I'm an actual retard and assumed I couldn't when I saw 0 in bag and read it as 0 BP. Thanks anons I'll go commit suduku now.
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this is the most autistic thing i have ever seen

why can't i stop watching

and why do you need fucking replays for a game that's 2 frames per second
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>>30695437
To his credit, he seems like he paid attention to the games and he knows what he's talking about, unlike the interviewer chick (and Panchito) from Worlds
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>>30695458
DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYAN HART
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Why the fuck is Pokemon such a fucking joke? You have dumb fucking CoD tournaments for Christ's sake with 60FPS and actual competition.

Why the fuck does GF do nothing but shit on us? I sincerely wish a hideous death upon them.
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>>30695464
Literally Pokemon Eurovision
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>>30695276
They should just max out the IVs of all Pokemon when you enter a PvP match by default desu. That way all Pokemon can stay "unique" in-game which GameFreak is so autistic about but they don't hamper the online experience anymore. Hidden Power would be based on the Pokemon's original IVs (same as Hyper Training does now). The only thing we would lose are the minmaxed 0 Atk / 0 Speed IVs spreads but that's honestly a tiny price to pay for all the headache it would allow us to avoid.
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>>30695485
Because its a turn per turn game?
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>>30695471
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>>30695264
>not liking pink or green
I bet you kiss girls or something, disgusting.
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>>30695485
Because COD is fucking shit
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>>30695173
But of course
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fuck all the people are either children or neckbeards
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>>30695510
>visits /vp/
>isn't a prude
Pick one.
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>>30695500
playing at >24FPS with framedrops every time something happens and every team being more or less the same?

>>30695512
>COD is fucking shit
yeah no shit Sherlock
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>>30695496
Having to hold B to go fast completely killed breeding for me. Unfortunately I can't inject, so I play exclusively on Showdown.
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>>30695518
I'll pick both and there is nothing you can do about it.
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You expected anything else involving Pokemon??
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>>30695486
underrated post
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>>30695471
Who ever thought you'd see Ryan "oh my days" Hart on a fucking Pokemon stream?
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>>30695509
help me understand this shit fellow fighting game nigga

I never actually tried actively watching this stuff but is the game plan from now pretty much cemented? barely gonna see any variation or are people quick to figure shit out
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why is the german version of this guy allowed to commentate?

nobody understands him and he never says anything relevant anyway
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>>30695485
Because you bought a shitty beta version of the game instead of waiting for the Switch one

Why do you think the tournament is only 2 weeks after the (European) release? :^)
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>>30695548
Don't worry. I've got him covered. I used to breed in Gen 6, but now I hack.
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>>30695498
That's also a pretty good solution.
Or they just need to update Hyper Training in Stars/Prism or whatever. Make the level requirement lv50 or something. Make Bottle Caps more obtainable. There has to be something
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>>30695515
welcome to the pokemon fanbase, enjoy your stay
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>>30695546
I was watching and thinking that there were a lot of white people. Its like the opposite of fighting games
>>
How long is this break?
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>>30695515
A shockingly large percentage of Showderp regulars lift.
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>>30695583
You never know. Could be 10 mins, could also be half an hour.
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>2016
>still being butthurt about hacked mons
I don't hack because I don't like it but I genuinely don't give a fuck about what other people do
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>>30695558
> be FGC guy
> Think James Chen and Ultradavid are retards
> Watch Pogeymans stream for a weekend
> Didn't know how much I appreciated James and David so much

Also, DDDDRRRRRRRYAN HART on stage.
What's next, Justin Wong doing the award ceremony?
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>>30695620
Just stop and ignore
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>>30695548
Fuck you faggot, I'm going to get on battle spot with my all shiny hacked team just to spite you
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>>30695642
are you retarded
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>>30695620
This.

I breed because I like it, and honestly relaxes me Also helps me quit smoking, as strange as that sounds

When I battle I just battle. I don't go RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE when I see a mon in the wrong ball. Unless it's an unmatching ugly ball, that triggers my Balltism
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>>30695642
It's not like they have an advantage... You can have the same results with breeded mons, but it takes way longer
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>>30695554
Some pokémon are too good or just do stuff that no other can't do so well. What you'll usually see in this tournaments are strategy/pokémon to counter what's the meta at the moment. From there the meta evolves. We're still on the beginning of this generation, so things are still fresh.
>>
>>30695585
>>30695573
i study physics so im used to these kind of autists
its like straight out of my classroom
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>>30695677
>what is showdown
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>>30695642
>>30695661
The argument is that you will have less battles because of the amount of breeding you need to do.

I however disagree
I do battles on Showdown while I breed.
I have pretty much every Meta mon bred up, and EV trained via the isle(plus some personal anti-meta mons)

All the while I constantly tinker teams on showdown.
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>>30695695
This.
I test on Showdown and once I find something that works I breed it up.
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>>30695620
i don't have a problem with people hacking for single player purposes (your game, your rules), but if you enter an online match your hacked pokemon can start negatively affecting other people's experience, as some of them might wish to not battle against people using hacked Pokemon

it wouldnt even be a problem if you could just opt out of facing people using hacked Pokemon in random battles but gamefreak is too retarded to do that
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>>30695677
While I breed do you think I don't study? For example now when a new gen came and smogon still makes analysis I look up every new Mon with abilities stats and learn a lot + while breeding I usually watch WiFi battles
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>>30695713
>but if you enter an online match your hacked pokemon can start negatively affecting other people's experience
uh, no
>>
>>30695713
That's impossible, if you gen correctly hacked pokemon are indistinguishable for legit pokemon
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>>30695713
The power to do something is exactly the same as the right to do something.
Those that inject pokemon are justified and correct for doing so. Why are you whining like a bitch? Are you a faggot?
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>>30695722
eh, yes? someone using hacked pokemon does more battles on average, putting the person playing fairly at disadvantage
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>>30695713
>it wouldnt even be a problem if you could just opt out of facing people using hacked Pokemon in random battles but gamefreak is too retarded to do that
Explain how you would do that. Well-hacked pokemon are indistinguishable from the real thing.
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>>30695740
see >>30695701
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>>30695713
I know it's really sad seeing hacked mons in tournaments but sadly it cannot be helped. So its pointless to get angry. I just watch because I love and enjoy it cheating is part of every community and corruption is hard correct so no reason to needlessly lower your spirits.
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>>30695740
You people are really pushing the "timed saved = more battle experience meme"
That's not how that works. Only a fool would test on cartridge only, especially given the speed compared to Showdown. Either way this is for VGC, not for muh hacking ethics debate #100
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how much did I miss
>>
we sticky
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>>30695779
2 days
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>Oh nice, a VGC sticky! People must be talking about the new meta and strats, which even usual top players seem to struggle with!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand it's another pointless breeding vs hacking "debate"
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>>30695737
>Those that inject pokemon are justified and correct for doing so.
Says who? A 4chan shitposter? Try to confess you use hacked Pokemon to a tournament organizer and see how far it gets you. Not even cloned Pokemon are considered "okay" by GameFreak seeing as they now apply bans if you try to disconnect during a trade.
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>>30695779
2.5 hours
>>
How long is this break?
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>>30695749
Not him but while my friend insist on saying he is legit, he already has like five different teams to use against me, while I very barely recently managed to breed, train and build a full team despite playing SM 24/7. It's just gross, discouraging and off putting.
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>>30695788
QFs are over and we have to wait till the games start again, does it really matter?
>>
>>30695779
Shitposting
>>
>>30695810
tl;dr
>>
WE BACK
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>>30695798

>20 minutes of battles
>10 minutes of commentators being retarded
>2 hours of we'll be right back

don't worry you barely missed anything
>>
>Not putting the Italians on the opposite rounds so we can have an Italian top 2
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>>30695795
I will cheat at pokemon and pass whatever hack check the tournament is using. You can not stop me, so why complain and shit up our thread?
>>
time for the German commentator giving everyone brain problems just by speaking
>>
Are people getting banned here or are the anti-hackers embarrassed about their posts?

But to change this topic, who looked good enough yesterday to win today, boyos?
>>
Based mods, thank you.
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>>30695769
I'm just stating facts nigger, if everything is genned correctly GF can't tell for shit
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>>30695850
Warns going around
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>>30695842
they did put the two brits against each other though, it's only fair.
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>>30695849
Seriously, after the past two days I feel like I have a hangover now.
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>>30694387
Updated bracket
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Why is no one using Aegislash or Metagross?
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"No we're not"
T-that was pretty cute
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>>30695864
aegislash isn't allowed
Metagross probably not used much due to the amount of earthquake users and fire types, maybe
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>>30695883
Marowak manhandles it too
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>>30695883
Why isn't Aegislash allowed? Are QR scan Pokemon banned?
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>>30695889
Not in the Alola dex
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>>30695864
I think i saw one metagross in top 32
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>>30695889

it's Uber
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>>30695883
Is Aegislash really banned? Holy fuck
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>>30695850
Miguel will crush Italy.
>>
>Krookodile
what the fuck
>>
>>30695898
smogonfriendo detected
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>>30695902
It's not in the dex, read the rules
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What is this guys Krookodile build?

Has he used it?
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>>30695916
a cute. CUTE!
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>>30695911
It's not uncommon.
>>
>semifinal
>ita vs ita
why?
>>
>>30695875
>There is nothing more to add to that, so let's stop the discussion now.
When has that ever worked? That is like telling somebody to calm down, you are just giving them another reason to throw a shitfit.
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>>30695911
It's got Intimidate over Chomp and resists both of A-Muk's STAB's as a bonus, doesn't die to HP Ice too
>>
where do you watch it? cant find anything, stream from sereebi is dead
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>>30695928
literally my mom's bad landorus-therian
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Finally get to see based Krookodile.
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>>30695924
Let me take the phone and ask him, one sec
>>
rekt

Araquanid is trash
>>
>no nicknames

>at all

Why? Are all competitive players so boring?
>>
is it just me or are they stuttering way too much here?
>>
>>30695938
Have you tried literally reading the OP?
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>bring no switch ins to Psychic in Tapu Lele meta
smfh fampai
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>>30695954
Try playing online at least once
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>>30695954
nickname are disabled in online mode
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>>30695954
the game has been out less than a month and they have full sets including legendaries.

You know why nothing is nicknamed
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>>30695954
Have you considered nicknames might be automatically replaced? Ever gone on BS?
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>>30695954
>nicknaming Pokemon
Literally never met anyone in real life who does this
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>>30695938
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>>30695958
gotta mute the stream; the casters don't say anything worthwhile anyways
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>>30695967
Then whats the point of cant naming my pokemon "penis"
>>
>look away for one second
>nico won
What the fuck happened
>>
>LELELELELELELELELELELELELEELELELELELELELELELELELELE
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>>30696012
He's fucking fast
>>
This michelle guy isnt very good
>>
Nothing wrong with staying in and getting wrecked.
>>
Why he'd taunt?
>>
>>30696036
He made top 4 so not really
>>
>Michele makes the best first turn possible
>completely fucks up on the second one
>>
>>30696036
Michele is good, he's the one with the highest perfect win streak.
Nico just fucking destroyed him.
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>>30696053
It's just that his TR team works badly against complete offense
>>
>>30695913
Let's not give them any ideas.
>>
Can we have a crowdfunding to help this guy speak normally?
>>
Dang, was hoping Michele didn't go down that fast.
>>
>>30696063
>>30696036
He should have started right away with porygon 2 because that was easily the best thing he had there, and would have kept gyarados from choking. Also no flare blitz on marowak was just strange.
>>
>you will never have this qt brit read you a beddiebye story about pikachu and ash's adventures
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjiCo1lkL44

ANDIAMO A LONDRA BEPPE
>>
>TR no longer a threat in VGC competitive scene
We Healthy Meta now!!!

Btw, can anyone guess nico's set for krookodile? It seems that he is running max atk and speed evs with crunch and earthquake on the krookodile but not sure about the nature and the other moves.
>>
spaghetti everywhere
>>
jesus christ just let him speak his native language and translate it. This guy can't speak in English
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>>30696090
You can't fix being German.
>>
I like this guy. He's just generally happy and relieved.
>>
>>30696095
>Also no flare blitz on marowak was just strange.

It was his last pokémon against an almost full team, last thing you want is having a comeback only to kill yourself with recoild damage.
>>
>this guy
>>
>>30695954
>umbreon use substitute
>umbreon used baton pass
>baton pass to Gyarados
>opponent used thunderbolt
>Gyarados' lightningrod raises its special attack

nicknames are broken if you keep your pokemon hidden behind a substitute
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Rate this team please.
Adrenaline Orb seems gimmicky on Freedombird, but it has won me a lot of games.

Bulu needs more calcs, full attack might be overkill, but the HP investment really helps.

Maybe thinking of switching Muk from Sassy to Adamant.
P2's Trace has helped me a lot more than Download ever has, because the negatives are hardly present from what I tested. When a terrain is up it won't get set up again, so getting a terrrain isn't bad. And getting shit like Intimidate, Beast Boost, and Lightningrod has helped me win games.


Tailwind helps me speed control, and trick room is for a slow option on P2.

http://pastebin.com/nr0ARmUN
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>>30696112
I'm German and my English is far better than that of this shit caster.
Like you can still guess it's German, but it won't melt your brain and I don't stumble over my own words.
>>
>>30696120
I can understand in the first game, but he should have taken down celesteela right away with flare blitz when he could in the second game. and switched out gyarados with porygon 2 right after the shattered psyche to set up trick room. But it's easy to say this after the game though.
>>
>"""special""" someone
>it's the commentators

JUST
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>>30696148
There are little Pokemon icons on the lower screen

I believe you can't name Pokemon after a different Pokemon in XY onwards anyways
>>
Give it to me straight. Is Araquanid shit?
>>
Oh, it's the nodding dude
>>
Noone is using based Buzzwole

Makes me sad
>>
This team is awesome
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Come on Ben
>>
wow, alolan ninetails made it to the semis
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>>30696169
He made it to top 4 what you think
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>>30696153
>>
>>30696169
No
>>
Ben is /ourguy/
>>
headbanging untz vs spanish verlis
>>
Why is this guy bobbling his head
He wont stop
>>
KICK HIS ASS BIG BEN
>>
rooting for miguel because he plays as the girl
>>
COME SEKIAM! WIN FOR BTFO /VP/!
>>
OHHH SHIT.
>>
F R E E Z E
>>
>FRZ
>>
FREEZE
R
E
E
Z
E
>>
Chicken-chan has the luck of the gods.
>>
FROZEN
>>
SKILL
>>
>FREEZE
>>
hiriyama?
>>
HOLY SHIT
>>
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>
>>30696195
poor man's Bobby Fischer
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That freeze tho
>>
S K I L L
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>>30696193
>>30696195
My boy wants to be a real life npc
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That fucking 2 turns.
>>
Rip Gastrofuck
>>
K E K
>>
B U R N
>>
rip miguel
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>BURN
>>
>BRN
>>
>Burn
OUTSKILLED
>>
HACKS
>>
>first semi-final match already decided by two RNG-checks
ESPORTS
>>
>>30696256
These semifinals have some crazy first turns.
>>
BURN AND FREEZE
>>
BTFO
>>
RIP in kill
>>
s k i l l
>>
Burn and freeze, really nodding guy?
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>sandveil Garchomp
>>
OUT
F U C K I N G
SKILLED

GOD BLESS CHICKEN-CHAN
>>
ALL SKILL
>>
SALT
A
L
T
>>
Why is chat disabled on twitch?
>>
>BURN AND FREEZE
s k i l l
>>
>>30696269
RNG is part of the strategy
>>
>memeguel
>>
sekiam es retrasao
>>
>>30696290
Because twitch chat fucking sucks
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Kartana wrecking shit
>>
Why forfeit?
>>
>>30695954
>nicknames disabled in online mode
>there are limitations to what you can name your mon
??????????????????????????
>>
>>30696290
people yelling "CHOKE" at every turn which they consider adding extra pressure for the players
>>
>>30696290
Nintendo does not want me to call you a nigger where everyone can see.
>>
>>30696290
fucking newfags leave this place and never return
>>
>>30696309
Because Miguel is fucking outskilled
>>
>love ball alolan ninetails

great taste
>>
Kartana new meta, that's the way I like to see things
>>
WTF HAPPENED AFTER FREEZE ?
NET STOPPED WORKING FOR A FEW MINUTES. BEN TAKES FIRST ROUND. DAFUQ ?
>>
>>30696328
30%=100%
>>
Man, if he had targeted the Garchomp spot
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>>30696290
> Breedfags
> injectfags
> verlisfags
> /vp/
> smogon
> children
> all in the same chat
>>
Ben got lucky but he's also a madman of a good player
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THUNDERBOLT
>>
PREDICTED
NUCE WIDE GUARD FUCCBOI
>>
>>30696328
garschomp switches out for gastrodon, gastrodon switches out for garshomp, garschomp dies, celestesteela gets burned by scald, game forfeit.
>>
This Islamic fellow just got lucky in the first game. Miguel is clearly the better player.
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>>30696290
GF would need at least 20 community managers dealing with all the shit going on in the chat
>>
TAPUS GTFO
TAPUS BTFO

GET OUT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
50% Blizz hits both and crits one.
WHO IS HIS GOD.
>>
>Blizzard not missing in Darude climate
>>
>Blizzard connects on both
>Crits on the one where it would matter
Where does Ben /ourguy/ Kyriakou hone his skills?
>>
Fire Fang here
>>
Why is the British guy fidgeting in his chair all the time? Did the mother not hug him when he was a child?
>>
>>30696384
he's that one opponent you keep facing on the showdown ladder. Think about it.
>>
>>30696387
He's grooving to the battle music and enjoying his hobby
>>
>meanwhile, Celesteela sits on the field for the rest of the game and Miguel wins
fuck this
>>
>>30696387
Either I'm bobbin my head or I'm just standin there watchin
when I hustle I hustle you can tell that I'm paid
and I protect what I've got, I'm in my house with my blade
>>
>>30696384
>>Crits on the one where it would matter

Wouldn't leaf blade KO it anyway?
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>>30696377
The guy who came to a tournament cosplayed as Gary/Blue/DICKS, used his pokemon(Machamp/Arcanine/Alakazam, etc) and WON.
>>
DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK
>>
Should have doubled up on Chomp
>>
rip ice doggo
at least you died instantly
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>>30696403
>>
Was the Ninetales sashed? Props to Miguel for the sand damage in that case
>>
>>30696422
>Props
>>
Sekiam still hasn't used Protect even once in these playoffs games
>>
>>30696377
>50%
nice meme
only thunder and hurricane have 50% acc and under drought weather only
>>
milotic on ultrabeast ball
>>
where is my man tapu bulu in this top 8?
>>
>>30696432
>Kyriaku has no notepad

bets on who's taking this one, lads?
Personally going with Big Ben
>>
>>30696444
My mistake.
Halves Solar Beams power wrong move.
>>
FULL PARALYSIS
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BARALYSIS :DDDDDDDD
>>
>>30696453
BEN
BEN
BEN
BEN
BEN

Fuck that Ultra beast tapu faggot spic.
>>
This fucking match holy shit
>>
>>30696465
>>30696468
At least it wasn't FRZ
>>
KARMA IS A BITCH
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Why the fuck is Milotic here and not a fucking Water/Ground Pokemon carrying an Ice attack?
>>
>>30696489
she has a lot of health
>>
>"i guess leftovers go after the burn"
>>
>https://twitter.com/SekiamPKM/status/807933273393528832

Friendly battles are the best battles.
>>
>>30696489
so his kartana won't be fucked over by intimidate left and right
>>
Rip Ben
>>
>>30696498
KEK
>>
bulky piece of paper
>>
>>30696504
wut
>>
>faiv haychpee
>ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

just kill me
>>
>>30696520
paper-thick defenses
>>
How is bamboo waifu balanced?
>>
>he didn't bring Marowak
What a dumb faggot
>>
delete celesteela from the game before it's too late
>>
>>30696540
Both players can use Celesteela, therefore the game is balanced.
Fag.
>>
>nothing to kill Cesteelea with
ok cool well played Ben gg I could have fucking won what a retard
>>
>>30696407
Technically he didn't win, he came second. He was awarded first because of the infamous shit throwing incident with the spic that actually won.
>>
>>30696540
Unlike the other ultra bests, her base stats are evenly spread :^)
>>
How can you let Celesteela wall all your team without using your Marowak
>>
>>30696343
So... normal twitch chat?
>>
ONLY ONE BO3 LEFT FOR SEKIAM BECOMING EUROPEAN CHAMPION
>>
>>30696540
next year mega charizard-y and heatran will put it back in its place
>>
AND HE HIT HIS FINISHER
>>
>>30696550
The what now?
>>
why did that idiot not bring his marow instead of the fairytales
>>
>>30696540
She has two whole weaknesses and a speed that is only in the 75th percentile of Alola pokeon. What more do you want?
>>
Did he absolutely have to reveal the Z-move?
>>
>>30696540
raped by electric and fire attacks.
>>
BRITBONGS BTFO
>>
gg Ben, absolutely fucking raped, what a dumb ass

there's no way this wasn't rigged 2bh
>>
>>30696567
No...PLEASE NO
>>
>you now are punished for not bringing Marowak to break a flying type
Which parallel universe has gen 7 brought us into?
>>
>>30696562
they are not in alola dex, iirc
So they're not allowed
>>
>congrechulake
>>
>>30696576
>raped
more like 3HKO'd
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cant wait for them finals
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>>30696579
You live by the memes, you die by the memes
>>
>>30696589
next year (vgc18) will most likely be national dex vgc which means they are back
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Who will become European champion? Máximo Décimo Meridio "Sekiam" or Emperor Nico Commodus?
>>
sorry, i'm on now, the final is?
>>
DDRRRRRRRRRRRYYYAN HART
>>
>>30696572
He revealed it on Day 1.
Everybody knows everybody's moves today.
>>
>>30696603
Ah, you meant that; my b, friend.

Thought you meant 2017, after bank is open.
>>
>ben played pretty good the second game, except he choked

got what a douchebag, he can't even be humble when he wins. hoping he gets his shit kicked in in the finals
>>
>>30696596
252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Celesteela: 438-516 (110 - 129.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>
>>30696596
Porygon Z disagrees.
>>
>who is your most valuable pakiman
>jyggalif
>>
>>30696540
A-Marowak can one shot it very easlily, even with low attack investment to out speed her
>>
>>30696605
COOL-HEADED MAFIA VS SPANISH VERLIS
>>
>Ryan knows more then versilify about assault vest

soon Mike Ross will be using TR Hariyama
>>
>>30696624
>her
>>
the marow would have easily killed
the gigalith
the koko
the celesteela

better bring ninetales to have a third pokemon for that chomp :^)
>>
>>30696619
>have to sac off a mon with recoil just to kill this thing
UBs are a mistake
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>>30696623

that's how it's supposed to be pronounced
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>>30696641
You are, if you were here in the previous matches you would have seen people exploting the opponent's Celesteela all day
>>
i hate the foreign casters they like throw together english words in a nonsensical order in an attempt to speak english
>>
>britcucks can't even win their own tournament
kek
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>>30696638
Yeah, plus hariyama's wide guard could protect marowak from EQ.
>>
>>30696653

yeah it's almost like their native language has different grammar structure, fuck them
>>
>"Congratulations to Miguel for making it to the top FLOOR"
Kek
>>
>girl winning juniors yet again
where are the girls in the master division :c
>>
>>30696645
It's clearly "giga"....
>>
>>30696681
Getting timestalled
>>
>That wacky team with acrobatics Celesteela

Juniors superior format confirmed
>>
>How do you prepare for a tournament?
>I use PKHex!
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>>30696645
NO
>>
Wait, did I miss the finals?
>>
I see him too. Nobody reply. Play it cool.
>>
>>30696641
+1 252+ SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Celesteela: 476-560 (119.5 - 140.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO


And that's even with a nature that boost SpD on celesteela. Even discharge can be enough to OHKO, if it doesn't have a SpD boosting nature, so no lightning rod cucking to save her there.

+1 252+ SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Discharge vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Celesteela: 348-412 (87.4 - 103.5%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
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>>30696681
there's a "girl"
>>
>>30696696
soon
>>
>>30696685

giga can be pronounced with a j sound
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>>30696696
Make yourself a nice sandwich, it's gonna take a little while
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>>30696681
why does it even matter you thirsty nigger
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>>30696704
>z-conversion meme

Having fun in 1490?
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>>30696681
Here :^)
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>>30696692
Did someone actually say that?
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>>30696723
You are adorable.
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>>30696722
inb4 >girl
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FINALE WHEN?
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>>30696692

he said "I look up decks from the internet"
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>>30696720
equality
>>
>sticky thread
>it's not actually sticky
lolwat
>>
VAI DAVIDE PORCODIO
>>
>>30696738
MIGUEL GOT THIS
>>
BISCOTTO BISCOTTO

Vamos Sekiam JODER
>>
>>30696722
He's cute
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>Italians are very strong
>Italians on worlds
>Italians blabla
>Italians good

>Italy doesn't have a shadow of goddamn regional tournament
>>
FINAL STARTING NOW
>>
>>30696712
ESL faggot?
>>
Nico is /ourguy/
>>
please win, miguel
>>
>>30696754

are you stupid? learn how to pronounce shit faggot and don't @ me or my posts again
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>not having Kay commentate the finals
big mistake
>>
Miguel has a strong penspinning game
>>
Gigalith is a big girl
>>
Nico is too autistic

I dont like him
>>
>kruuu-kodile
what a faggot
>>
Go Nico!
>>
why is this guy casting final half of the words he's saying aren't even words they're just noises
>>
>Celesteela/Arcanine/Gastrodon is the meta
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>playing VGC
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>>30696721
No, having fun in OU though
>>
9 different species
thats pretty good
>>
>>30696771
who?
>>
>>30696751
Pokemon Day will have one like always
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Go nico
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>>30696770
ESL faggot then
>>
>>30696791
the solid 7 blonde with a braid
>>
>no special music for the final
>>
> Not using Battle! World Championship Finale music
Wasted
>>
STEEL WAIFU NOOOO
>>
>invincible celesteela
>>
ITALIANS BTFO
>>
>>30696805
>>30696806
it's not in the game files
>>
>>30696666
not him but I have to agree it would be x5 more pleasing if it were just UK casters, which is the English accent/pronunciation taught all over here in Europe anyway. It's really awful when they take casters from all over Europe but you cant understand that much.
>>
OUR GUY MIGUEL WINNING IT ALL
>>
>losing bamboo waifu on the first turn

Weeeew
>>
I don't understand, that was the most obvious play, why did he protect Krookodile which takes shit from DG?
>>
I like your dile Nico but that's what you get for bringing Celesteela when the winning teams today are winning based on pure offense.
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>>30696815
It's in you idiot. it's just not used IG
>>
>>30696791
the only good commentator they have
>>
>>30696805
>>30696806
That's only for worlds
>>
>>30696822
Because he likes to play Celesteela over aggressively, never switching into his grounds
>>
>>30696540
BTFO
>>
>>30696751
>Britain has the most european tournaments
>it's not even Europe
>>
So what was he protecting from? Garchomp has no SE attacks on Krookodile and Celesteela will easily take a dazzling gleam which probably won't kill Krookodile. On the other hand a discharge won't actually even hit Krookodile.
>>
>>30696828
filerip didnt list it
>>
>>30696836
cheapest place to fly to
>>
Kay best girl. Remove those who can't string a sentence together that makes sense
>>
>>30696822

he overthought it and thought since protecting with celesteela was so obvious miguel would moonblast krookodile + earthquake
>>
Is AV-Flame Charge Bamboo Slut any good?
>>
>>30696836
>Britain
>not Europe

do amerifags even know what EU means?
>>
>>30696854
earthquake would have killed his own tapu koko though.
>>
>>30696859
it gets autotomize why would you do that
>>
>>30696865

well he thought tapu koko was going to use a fairy move on krookodile and not use thunderbolt. What garchomp does is irrelevant to his thought process that turn
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>>30696567
Oh lordy, brace yourself for storytime.

>Final at VGC, Ben vs Spaniard named Ruben
>Ruben wins and is a dick about it, as the spics always are at the UK VGCs
>Few days later, Ben is listed as the winner on the Pokemon website
>Wait what
>Story emerges
>Day after VGC, Ruben and his mates trashed their hotel
>Literally shitting in the corridor and throwing their turds around
>Nintendo find out, disqualify Ruben and ban him
>Ruben makes a public grovel in dodgy English going tl;dr POKEMON IS MY LIFE PLZ DON'T BAN ME
>Nintendo doesn't give a fuck, Ben still the winner

Actually not the only shit related incident at the UK VGC. Seems to be a thing here.
>>
>>30696831
I know, they could've still used the SM champion battle music or smth
>>
>>30696871
Cause it's running AV.
>>
>>30696871
autotomize reduces heavy slam's base power
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Wow, look at this 10/10 field. Now THIS is a Pokemon battle, guys.
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Fuck yeah
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>>30696877
what the fuck? i never heard of this but im glad that fucker got punished
>>
>>30696877
good. They're such pussies in america, last worlds that one guy flipped off the audience (and the stream) and all he got was a stern talking to, should've been disqualified on the spot.
>>
Garchomp wins now yea
>>
>>30696907
ATTABOY
>>
>>30696907
>only very good
>>
>>30696907
>spdef: very good
UNCLEAN
>>
>>30696907
best waifu
>>
>>30696907
what's its hidden power type
>>
>>30696877
From what I heard, Ruben actually does nude modelling nowadays
>>
>>30696907
Congrats !
>>
>>30696907
Sub optimal. Purge it.
>>
>>30696907
>love ball
i like you
>>
>>30696927
Looks like steel
>>
GOOD GUYS WIN
HELL YEAH
>>
>>30696907
NICE HIDDEN POWER FIRE NERD
>>
>>30696923
>>30696924
>>30696931
>what are bottlecaps
>>
That was a helluva game
>>
>>30696893
not really, as its still extremly heavy after one boost and will still have the highest base power in most cases
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>>30696907
I see you.
>>
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PING PONG GAME ALL THE TIME
>>
>Nico already picked the team

This nigga is too aggressive
>>
Good guys always win
>>
>>30696945
It doesn't have HP Fire, it's automatically massive garbage.
>>
>>30696960
NO BULLY
>>
>>30696947
Shut up Holden
>>
>stream randomly going to best quality
>have to change between low and mobile every 5min
Reee
>>
Is that tapu lele in a dream ball??
>>
>>30696895
>Autist named Foodking often goes to the VGC
>As name suggests, guy is morbidly obese
>Once saw him fall on his back and roll around like a turtle, unable to get back up
>One VGC he shat himself
>Didn't clean up
>Carried on walking around the venue with shit pouring down his legs
>Got thrown out and banned for being a health hazard
>Equally autistic friends start a petition to get him unbanned
>IT'S DISCRIMINATION TO BAN HIM BECAUSE HE'S DISABLED
>Try to force Nintendo to force attendees to have handlers to prevent autists from shitting themselves

I think he got unbanned in the end.
>>
leech
seed
everything
>>
Nico is a madman, he lives on the edge
>>
>>30696982
Love Ball most likely
>>
>>30696960
> HP Fire
> Not HP Ice

Que?
>>
>Thanks
>Thanks
>Thanks
>>
T-th-th-thanks!
>>
> CRIT
>>
>princess of healthy timer

Oh no
>>
just take his mic away holy shit
>>
>>30697010
>Not HP Rock
Nani
>>
Oh here we go. The fun pace has gone to shit.
>>
thank you princess
>>
>Inb4 we end with a Celesteela mirror match
>>
CELESTEELA WAR. CELESTEELA WAR EVERYBODY
>>
THANK YOU PRINCESS
>>
>Double Celesteela subbed
Well gotta love timer
>>
Fuck me, the commentators cannot talk to save themselves
>>
>>30697045
Now it's a full mirror match
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>MIRROR MATCH

its the genies of healthy meta all over again
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Leech seeded his own gastrodon?
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liddabidda more libbadibbabeddaposition
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>>30697066
It prevents the other Celesteela from seeding.
Plus he has recover
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>Celesteela will never leech your seed
>>
>>30697063
HEALTHY META
>>
HEY RULES LAWYER.
GET OVER HERE.
YOU FUCK.
YEAH. YOU.

If this goes to a time limit draw, does Miguel win?
>>
>>30697066
absolute madman
>>
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NICO THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>30697066
and now that gastrodon is poisoned. poor guy.
>>
Looks like we got a lot of time to kill

Going to the store lads you want anything?
>>
>its a celesteela gastrodon episode
>>
>>30697066
yes, the othger celesteela now can't lecch seed gastrodon
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First time watching one of these, are these matches always this wild?
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>>30697081
They apply tiebrakers, if Nico wins them they go to sudden death game 3
>>
>>30697089
tunnocks teacake pls
>>
>>30697089
Cornetto
>>
this fucking match
>>
>>306970
Cherry soda pop
>>
>>30697095
no they are captured pokemon
>>
>>30697089
strawberry cake
>>
>not going to freeze the opponent gastrodon
>>
>>30697063
M E T A G A M E
E
T
A
G
A
M
E
>>
Nintendo should be ashamed that one of their biggest IPs has an advertised "competitive scene" that is this pile of shit.
>>
>>30697121
>scald
>>
>>30697089
Some chips please(Or Crisps if you're a britbong)
>>
>doubles are faster paced they say.
>>
>>30697134
Freeze thaws before that activates
>>
AND HERE COME THE CRYBABIES
We had a pretty varied tournament with a lot of Pokemon used. But now there's two Celesteelas and everyone goes full "MUH HEALTHY META"

Go, and stay go.
>>
>>30697148
Yea but its like its frozen
>>
Nico lost
>>
>>30697124
Don't blame nintendo for GF's lack of balance skills
>>
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Is this match going to actually end?
>>
>>30697152
No its more like the ones who used the UBS OF HEALTHY META get rewarded with Finals like this
>>
How are they running their Porygon2 ?
>>
>>30697152
the Gastrodon, don't forget the Gastrodon
>>
worst match ever
>>
>>30697152
>>trying to defend it this hard
>>
Removing the match timer was a mistake
>>
>>30697117
I appreciated that.
>>
>>30697089
Not even the genies can save us now.
>>
"It's a bit of a non-turn"

Understatement of the year. 20 minutes left in this bamboo civil war.
>>
FUCKING STALLS!!!!!!!!
>>
>>30697181

miguel is playing the fuck out of nico

nico should have went on the offense with tapu lele 3 turns ago
>>
>avoided leech seed
wew
>>
>>30697131
This is a worst case scenario made possible by problematic timer rules, if Singles was played on carts with animations this would be better than the norm
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we need more picture like this, post them
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>>30697189
TU TIEMPO means time remaining.
they use a chess clock now.
there are like 3 ways of keeping time in chess, its the one where you do not gain time.
>>
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>vgc16 wasn't a fun meta they said
>vgc17 is going to be as good as vgc14 they said
smeargle xerneas mirror matches were better than this
>>
>the final is so shit that the commentators start talking about the PC clothes

top lel I love this meta
>>
>>30697209
Those were actually allowed?
>>
If Miguel doesnt wake the fuck up he is going to lose to the battle timer if it goes to stall vs stall
>>
>Pokemon Fashion Competition
>>
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I thought the ninjawar finally ended? Who added more filler?
>>
>>30697202
I don't understand why he didn't switch it in after krookodile died.
>>
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>CELESTEELA
>UH UH UH
>C-CELESTEELA CELESTEELA
>UH UH CELEST-- UH UH UH
>UM THE UH AH UH THE UM UH CELESTEELA CELESTEELA

Holy Fucking Christ.
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>>30697209
>>
>strongest z-move we got around
tapu bulu bloom doom off wood hammer is stronger commentator buddy
>>
is miguel retarded?
>>
>>30697212
No match timer means we end up with stall wars like this though
>>
WAKE UP LADS SHIT IS HAPPENING
>>
>Going to game 3
Noooooooooooooo
>>
>Fire Fang
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING
>>
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>>30697209
>>
>>30697226
To be fair, fashion is easily the most important part of competitive play. If you can't even coordinate clothes, how can you expect to coordinate a team and outplay a living, breathing, thinking opponent?
>>
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>going to game three
>>
>>30697234

exactly, could have saved us like 10 minutes of fucking around
>>
Just forfeit Miguel damn, even if you stall you're going to lose because you can't see the opponent
>>
>>30697253
>>30697261
leech seed miss means the celesteela war is back on track, non-believers
>>
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>>30697209
>>
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Hey guys...the genies sure are lookin good now
>>
>>30697281
don't use leech seed on me or my sub ever again!
>>
> 19K+ viewers

we esports now :^)
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>>30697209
also
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>this match length
>>
terrains were a mistake
>>
>give leech seed to a pokemon with (2) T W O weaknesses and great bulk
What the hell were you thinking GF
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Such a shame.
We had a cool tournament, but now it's fucked.
This reminds me of a Melee tournament where the Grandfinals were Jiggs mirrors and the stream emptied in minutes. Fuck you Hungrybox
>>
>>30697315
all this bullshit going on and terrains is what you complain about
>>
>viewers going up on stall
Wtf.
>>
>protecting
>not thunderbolting immediately

why
>>
>that long to forfeit

????

Fuck this spic
>>
>>30697324
The same thing when they designed Ferrothorn
>>
>tfw TPCi bans celesteela for all following tournaments
>>
go NICO GO!
>>
>>30697302
No they aren't, I know it's you behind that post, Landorus-T.

>>30697315
Thanks for showing you don't even know what you're looking at, terrains are the thing that make matches faster.
>>
>the whole last 20 turns

Fuuuuuck

Thank fuck for forfiets
>>
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>
>>30697340
Hoping your opponent dies from old age before they win is a VALID STRATEGY
>>
>>30697325
>Melee
>two Puffs in grands
I don't think so
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>Forfeit
Thank god
>>
>>30697325
>implying jiggs mirrors aren't the fastest matches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdxR7logxXA
>>
>>30697315
>>30697328
Celesteela is actually one of the few pokemon being run in the tournament that doesn't even get effected by terrain.
>>
>>30697344
Ferro actually has a 4x weakness
>>
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Celesteela was a mistake

They should bann such stalling techniques.
its shit
SHIT
H
I
T
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>needing this long to forfeit
my sides are gone
>>
>>30697340
>>30697341
The match has a general timer.
If it goes out in game three the one with the most HP wins, and since he can do huge damage on the first turns maybe he counts on that.
>>
>>30697359
It was a long time ago when Mango still played Jiggs.
>>
>>30697344
ferro has an exploitable weakness and, most importantly, ferros can't leech seed each other
>>
>>30697373
yeah, but just ONE weakness.
>>
>using spanish

what the fuck is this trash?
>>
About 8 minutes left to go till match time's called
>>
water is COLD today huh
>>
Is Substitute Nihilego any good?All this Substituting looks amusing.
>>
>>30697347
>>30697328
I want it to last longer! Make everyone suffer!
>>
>>30697401
It's weak to fighting too
>>
>>30697401
>>30697401
>WHAT IS FIGHTING-TYPE
come on, you fuckin clods
>>
>>30697417
doesn't everything in the known universe breaks its sub?
>>
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I've never seen the time stalled so much since tpci tried to prevent timerstall.
>>
>>30697373

Fire and fighting
>>
>>30697402
The superior language.
>>
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>>30697429
>clods
>>
groudon confirmed
>>
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Post-bank Salazzle might see more use. Corrosion might fuck Bamboowaifu over. But she needs Fake Out to work.

Incineroar will also be able to counter when it gets intimidate.
>>
>>30697402
>Im a shitty murican and I think Miguel is Mexican, so Im going to disregard Spain even though it's a really great country and has a great language, really different from what's spoken in LATAM
>>
"Ice beam into Groudon"
XD
>>
>Groudon
>>
>>30697441
>the language of goat fuckers and drug lords
Naw
>>
>Groudon
>>
>Groudon
>Blast from the past
That's not how you pronounce PTSD.
>>
>>30697464
But goat fuckers speak in arab, you illiterate fuck
>>
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>>30697449
>stall
>>
>>30697460
Yeah, let's toxic with something that dies with a gust of wind
>>
>>30697430
Special attacks,probably not.

Do Air Balloon Substitutes ignore EQ?
>>
>>30697441
ADELANTE BUSCO MANANA EL FUEGO CARAMBA
>>
>>30697464
you mean every single language in this world, don't you?
>>
>despite the fact of how heavy it is
>it is actually
no bully
>>
>>30697460
incineroar is already great, Intimidate will only be the cherry on top. Many day 2 players used it.
>>
NICO LOST FO RNG
>>
CELESTEELA BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>
wow outskilled
>>
BURN
U
R
N
>>
RNG GOD INTERVENES
>>
>more rng than hearthstone
>>
>PARABURN

WEW

GET FUCKED NICO
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>>30697491
Nico only won game two by being a faggot
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ITALIANS REKT
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LUCK
SACKED
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lmao random status
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RIP NICO
I
P

N
I
C
O
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SPAIN WON EUROPE
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>this hax
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s k i l l
k
i
l
l
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BURN
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>>30697491
RNG is the only thing that saves us from the stall.
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This was DESERVED
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>>30697504
THANK YOU PRINCESS
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>>30697498
RNG is one of the big reasons people watch HS instead of chess though.
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>not planning for the 3% chance
It's like you don't even want to win.
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>>30697461
>spain
>great country

kek. go get a job pedro
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So is Celesteela the most cancerous pokemon right now?
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>Paralyzed
>Burned
>>
this is easily the worst final ever, maybe only second to vgc15 worlds.
>>
Miguel has a pretty fabulous chicken.
>>
WHY THE FUCK IS NEMANJA EVEN COMMENTATING ?
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>>30697505
Missed it by 2 minutes kill me
recap vids when
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>>30697530
yes
>>
THE ROUND TIMER IS GOING TO COME IN TO PLAY, CANCER ALLAROUND FOR EVERYONE
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>>30697544
Good thing it isnt worlds amirite.
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>Paralyzed
>Burned
>Badly Poisoned
>>
To anyone confused as to why they stalled so long last time it was for this exact situation
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Who is this nigger that stutters every half a second?
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>be a guy
>play as a girl

spotted the faggot
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This is so fucking stupid
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>The final game comes down to sudden death
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>coming down to timer
Shit finals, fuck Celesteela
>>
>Best VGC is a damn good while
>That diversity
>Final ends up being one of the shittiest one
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>>30697577
gaming the system rather than the game itself, nice.
>>
What's the ingame timer for if they have some outside timer that ends the game earlier?
>>
Seriously they can't just let they game fucking finish on its own? Fucking retarded
>>
Top 4 was awesome if you had it on mute.
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>>30697599
I think it was mainly to prevent trying to win via timestalling
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>>30697599
The outside timer counts the whole match
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>>30697598
Yep, it's fucking shitty. Unfortunately stall is a viable strat in pokemon and you can't punish players for slowplay like TCGs.
>>
Why even have a round timer for the finals?
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>>30697588
>picking the retarded looking male character models after Hilbert
>ever
Do you also name your character using your real first name?
>>
Why the fuck isn't English used as the default language in this tourney?
>>
>>30697598
The system is the game shithead.
These MEN are playing to WIN.
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fucking slugs
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LEECH SEED MISSES
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>>30697599
TPCi realised the chess timer alone could potentially make Celesteela mirrors go on for hours, so they patched it with another problematic timer
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>>30697588
>staring at a boy for 40 hours
Ha. Gayyyyyyy.
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>>30697626
spotted the faggot
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>>30697638
wouldn't have made a difference though.
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>>30697630
We're in europe and they're playing on their game carts.
>Wah I'm an american and I can't into foreign language
You deserve trump.
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>>30697597
>that diversity
not even the celesteela sets are diverse
>>
Well it's over
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>>30697647
Spotted the retard.
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>>30697646
I bet you kiss girls too, ewww
>>
How's the decision work, remaining poke? It's got to be Miguel right?
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>>30697630
>Not understanding the main European languages.
From what kind of thirld wolrd shithole are you?
>>
>>30697650
>not even the only pokémon with the samefag set isn't diverse

No shit
>>
IT'S OGRE
>>
WHY?
>>
WOOOOOOOOOOOO LET'S GO MIGUEL
>>
that second game was totally retarded
>>
Next pokemon region being iberia (portugal and spain) looking even more likely.
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B T F O
T
F
O
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Now you can all go home
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>game decided by judges picking a winner

what kind of rigged shit is this? Obviously miguel won, but they can't think of an objective way to decide?
>>
>>30697670
He would have won anyways. It was 3v1. Sub + Leech Seed would only last you so long
>>
How good/bad would the meta be if mythical/legendary/UBs were blanket banned (even the shitty ones)?

This isn't meant to be a Smogonbait or anything, its a genuine what-if.
>>
>>30697682
>faggot trans spic winning with hax
this is the salt icing on the salt royal cake that this tournament has been.
>>
YOU FORCE ME
FORCE
ME
TO MUTE THE STREAM
THEN YOU CUT TO THE CROWD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIGHT
WHO WON?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
>>
"the birth of the metagame" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh
>>
Go shitpost here and leave us alone now >>30697114

It will be plenty of easy (you)s from people who didn't watch the tournament, have fun
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>>30697688
The timer is part of the game.
>>
This last match has been pure cancer. Semifinals were infinitely better.
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>>30697688

>Implying Celesteela wasn't going to die by Tapo Koko Thunderbolt

Why so mad?
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haha we fixed the timer but then we made Celesteela

oops
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>>30697684
Tell that to every gymnastics competion. But the really, the criteria are who has the most HP available, most pokemon and best win chances.
>>
Any Firium-Z Celesteela used this weekend? Would've thought it'd be the go-to for killing magnet pull Magnezone.

>252+ SpA Celesteela Inferno Overdrive (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Celesteela: 190-224 (93.1 - 109.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
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>>30697684
>but they can't think of an objective way to decide?

They did, the rule is "most remaining % HP of the whole team"
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>>30697684
The tiebreaker rules are objective tho

>>30697688
Only the timer's a thing, Miguel capitalised on it and won. Fair play. Blame the game, not the player, as cliche as it sounds
>>
>leech seed misses
>burned, paralyzed

S K I L L
>>
Anyway, this announcer was fucking annoying as hell. Anyway, why can't they get better announcers for this this? Anyway, this was really frustrating and anyway annoying to listen to. Anyway he speaks shit english too.
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>>30697694
>This isn't meant to be a Smogonbait or anything, its a genuine what-if.
When has that ever worked? That is like telling somebody to calm down, you are just giving them another reason to throw a shitfit.
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I guess I'm going to use Alola Marowak and Tapu Koko in my team.
Who else?
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>>30697485
>incineroar is already great

How would you even run it? I mean, this thing suffers from 4MSS. WoW, Snarl, Fake Out, all great moves. But also has acces to Leech Life to sustain, Darkest Lariat to break to any stat boosters. Flare Blitz, fucking Outrage.
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>>30697712
TOP KEK
>>
>>30697716
>literally every magnezone is under the rain
>making Celesteela virtually useless just because you're afraid of Magnezone
>0 spD

Just drop celesteela at this point.
>>
>>30697688
Are you retarded or baiting?
>>
>>30697694
It would have been VGC 2014 without Zapdos.

So, pretty good meta.
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>>30697736
I use AssVest with snarl fake out flare blitz and darkest lariat. I might wanna test a Malicious moonsault set to get the OHKO on oranguru and marowak that it needs.
>>
>exciting final

The first game was good, but the rest was shit.
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>>30697684
Why didn't they let the last 6 minutes of battle?
>>
>>30697694
I was impressed they were allowed to begin.
>>
>>30697758
not even close, there's almost nothing in the alola dex whereas the kalos dex had almost everything except for a few niche mons.
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>>30697734
All of Showdown's sub-1300 and Battle Spot sub-1650 EloHell.
I'm guessing you never once played online.
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>>30697694
I'd be fine with a hard limit of 1 legendary.
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Well fuck I missed everything. Who won? What team?
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>>30697734
I was actually thinking Marowak plus Toxapex, but apparently it doesn't have enough offensive prescence unlike Muk
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>>30697780
i won with 6 mewtwo
>>
Good tournament, shit finals

Was falling asleep halfway through the second round
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>>30697777
quads confirm

>>30697780
spain beat italy.
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>>30697758
I'll never understand why people praise VGC14 when it was meta and samey as fuck

>>30697694
Everyone would have ran the second strongest option, aka shitty weather wars.
Also the Tapus aren't even broken, have you seen them tearing holes to the point people brought three Tapus at the same time? No, they have tons of exploitable weaknesses.
>>
>>30697780
French girl with a huge rack and six Mewtwo.
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>>30697795
I miss that video
>>
i seriously hope miguel mentions his haxing as his wincon in the third game.
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>saying it was boring and apologizing.
T-thanks?
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>>30697786
>regional in Texas
Oh ni-
>On New Year's
Well fuck you too TPCi
>>
Sekiam apologizing for the Celesteela vs Celesteela becoming a very boring game and admiting he won game 3 by luck.

What a gentleman.
>>
Miguel is pretty honest, good for him.
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>>30697825
he just did
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>>30697697
Zim go to bed
>>
>>30697825
He did it
>>
>Admits it was boring
SHUT IT DOWN TPCi ASSASSINS INCOMING
>>
>>30697654
spotted the retarded faggot
>>
What was Miguel using?
>>
>>30697845
>>30697842
well i'm happy he's being honest. meanwhile i'll be salty in my corner since my compaesano didn't win the european championships.
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>>30697856
>>30697787
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>>30697786
I am going to participate in the Netherlands one.
What is the PlayerID and how do you get one?
I need it to sign up.
>>
> Nico says "Can I go ?"

TOP KEK
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>>30697856
http://www.trainertower.com/european-international-championships/
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I can't wait to see VGC being filled with shit for a week.

Curse my autism for being unable to ignore shitty bait.
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>>30697881
How'd he draw that so quickly?
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>>30697872
>ignorant amerifat
classic
>>
>white text on mostly white background

My eyes.
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>>30697908
My guess is he drew both teams during stream and published the one who won
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>>30697889
somebody save him
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>>30697890
Someone used a full team of Unown.
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>>30697936
Nerf this GF
>>
I'm so fucking goddamn sick of every LE GAMING stream being full of fucking Razerâ„¢ Alienwareâ„¢ For The Winâ„¢ Epixâ„¢ dubstep garbage music

why can't they just play fucking pokemon music holy shit
>>
>>30697936
It's quite obviously a placeholder since they didn't manage to contact him about his team
>>
>>30697962
You'd think with the huge number of great tracks in the games they'd play some of them. But nah have some generic looping beat instead.
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>>30697969
Try and have a little fun lad.
>>
>>30697921
>he
>>
>>30697890
She for the finals, but the rest looks very damn good.
Too bad shitposters will just cherrypick screenshots and spam le healthy meta meme.
>>
>>30698016
>has
>>
>>30698016
>has
>>
Woke up too late it seems. Who won?
>>
>>30698023
*shame
>>
>>30698039
>no
>>
what is a good moveset and spread for gigalith?
>>
0 Regs in Italy and Spain but 3 Regs + 1 IC in UK and 1 in Sweden.
Nice Pokemon...
>>
Who else was rooting for Wolfe?
>>
>>30697997
Poe's law tbf
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Anyway.

Which nature/ev spread are people going for their Arcanines? I know it's a versatile mon but I can't seem to find any good discussion about it.
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>>30698070
All the gays, yesterday and the other day it was full of people lusting for him. Unsurprisingly enough they didn't show up today.

>>30698059
Whatever floats your boat as long it has heavy slam, people use Giga just for the sake of removing weather and damaging the tapus.
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>>30698085
You can't find a discussion on it because it's that versatile, it does what the hell you want. Special, physical, bulky, offensive, supporter etc
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>>30698114
Not gay or anything for wolfe, I don't think he swings that way. But I watch his channel and wanted to see how he used his own sets.
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>>30698148
He didn't use anything he suggested aside maybe Marowak.
He basically put substitute on everything and stalled people to death.
>>
>>30698114
Gigalith @ ???
Ability: Sand Stream
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Wide Guard
- Rock Slide/ Stone Edge
- Toxic
- Heavy Slam

is this a good set?
>>
>>30698114
I'm here, I loved how Wolfe played in every single game, and also made Celesteela his bitch. Not a faggot, I don't recall many gays going after him but a few people calling him hot and good looking. There were some people being much more explicit than that with other players.
>>
I hope Sekiam does well in World Cup and breaks spanish bad luck in World Cup playoffs
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>>30698182
It means the only thing he swings are big celsteela tits.
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>>30698148
>I don't think he swings that way.
I'm pretty sure he and markus are closeted bf's, not even shitposting
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>>30698223
I'm sure as well; he shouldn't go to such length to pretend he likes Pokémon to cover up his gay relationship to his gf.
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>>30698170
252 HP is not optimal 90% of the cases. Run some calculations against the common threats and check it yourself. I know you may be hiding that, but just in case there's the heads up.

Other than that it is solid.
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>>30698170
Do some calcs and manage the defenses so you can survive some threats
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>>30696653
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No more need to sticky mods
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>>30698195
I'm not gay but I totally called Wolfe good looking in the threads previously. I've been to events like these and most dudes look exactly like you would expect them too. More surprisingly is most people who manage to make top cuts look pretty decent, there's probably a correlation between being smart and being able to look after yourself.
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>>30698520
I'm Italian and make fun of everybody with shitty English.
>>
I'm not gay but I'd suck Wolfey's cock.
>>
Could you guys give me some advice? This is the team I put up together for playing on cartridge, more or less accurate (bar some IVs). So far I've had a good run of 4 straight wins and haven't detected many glaring weaknesses. Can you?

http://pastebin.com/JQ05ZJeu
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>>30698555
Chances are you English is shit as well.
>>
>>30698741
No toxic on Pory2
>>
What time does it start?
>>
>>30698777
That's the joke
>>
>>30698908
What should I replace for Toxic? Doesn't seem like I have space for it, but it'd be nice to have
>>
>>30699172
You have both electric and ice coverage from other mons but more reliable ice so I'd probably replace ice beam instead of thunderbolt.
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>>30698741
>252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
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>>30699273
Like I said it's my cart team and I originally used P2 for Singles. Since I'm now considering Toxic I'm open to a different stat spread, what do you suggest?
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>>30698741
252 252 spreads are bad
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WHY THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD STICKIED NO ONE CARES ABOUT VGC
>>
Anyone know the A-Ninetales spread/moveset from Ben K. ?
>>
It ended?
>>
It's pathetic how you guys are actively watching other people play shitty, dull VCG matches.
>>
>>30699821
Yep
Miguel, Ben, Nico and Michele (semis)
Miguel and Nico (final)
Miguel (winner)
>>
>>30698777
All it means is that you shouldn't use the excuse of not having English as your primary language.
Just learn the damn language or fuck off. (Or be mocked as you should)
>>
>>30699854
And yet you manage to be even more pathetic by posting on threads you don't like instead of just ignoring them. Go out or something man.
>>
>>30700063
lol butthurt VCG loser
>>
>>30700174
what the hell is a VCG?
>>
>>30698777
Was hast du gesagt du analfotzenlusttropfenbespritzer?!
>>
>>30694903
I'm just going to assume here that you're a fucking tasteless American.
>>
So... assault vest Kartana?

How do you even make that work?
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>>30700710
You put the Assault Vest on the Kartana
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>>30700743
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>>30700710
You don't. Even with Assvest it won't do much. Focus Sash is the better option.
>>
>Wake up
>Sekiam won
God fucking dammit all
>>
> All of them are hackers
Yawn
>>
>>30694485
Kartana is Kraptana
>>
>>30695212
HOLY SHIT VOYBOY STILL STREAMS?

is Grackis still alive?
>>
>>30694496
no it's a paper sword. wow you are so dumb man! it doesn't look like a cannon at all!
>>
http://pastebin.com/x3suDNBN what should i switch out on koko for hp ice? Also opinions n EV and iv spread
>>
>>30702443
What should i take over hp ice*
>>
Some Porygon2 sets recommendation? I've been running Protect, TBolt, Ice Beam and Recover with a mixed spread on defenses and stuff. Don't want to run it with TR
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>>30702686
Keep TR on it regardless. Once the opponent gets cheeky and tries to speed control with Tailwind or whatever, turn the tables and activate TR.

It's what I do.
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How long, until we can just scan everybodys team via QR and inject them?
>>
Where can I watch the Junior finals?
>>
Is adamant the best nature for A-Muk? I like the one Wolfe used.
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>Get a double freeze
>The first one doesn't matter because I protected my partner and the pokémon dies to hail damage
>The second thaws out on the same turn
>>
>>30700796
Yeah, getting to top 4 out of 500 people was just luck
>>
Hey anons, i'm running a team of koko/marowak/pory2/gyarados/persian/celesteela but celesteela feels like she never does anything.

Have any advice on a good set for her?
>>
>>30706372
VGC was unanimous, leech seed, sub, heavy slam, protect. You can tech Flamethrowing for mirrors if you want. EV spread is literally whatever you want there is no consensus there.
>>
>>30705026
Sash is *usually* better, but Ben had hail and needed sash on ninetales so AV was the next best. It can live some important weaker or resisted special attacks + 1 turn of hail so it worked well enough.
>>
>>30701832
When Ben won his first nationals back in BW days, he didn't even RNG abuse, never mind hack, and so had sub perfect IVs.

Judging by the single UB, I'd put decent money on him still moral fagging
>>
>>30706438
I just feel she's too weak honestly. She was killed very easily when I used her, I don't get it.
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>>30707270
You just can't switch her into electric or fire attacks, if you build her resistances she should tank 3/4 hits from most others.
>>
>>30707301
It's just hard to say that when every team has koko and marowak.

Koko is fast as fuck, I have a koko too but they far outspeed my celesteela. I don't want to just sit there and have her only protect..
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>>30707376
That's when you switch her out for your own Marowak, or just don't bring her into those matchups. She's never going to be useful all the time and those are specific times where she won't be at all.
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>My Gastrodon vs his Celesteela
>First 20 are pure cancer stall but I'm removing like 1% of his health each x turns (x because he would protect from time to time)
>After that the player literally leaves and lets the timer play for him instead of forfeiting
>"A-At least I'll win now"
>Wrong
>At 30 seconds left he comes back and starts stalling again by choosing his moves very fast

If I find you dude, I'm strangling you to death
>>
>>30707514
looks like xuritree may rise and become the number 1 anti-meta pick. Fucks both celesteela and gastrodon up.
>>
>>30707639
What did YOU mean by this?
>>
I give up. I can't win with this team. What team should I play if I want to win?

http://pastebin.com/GngpF8G4
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>>30707985
Don't run physical Koko, no, even if Wolfey said it's good, don't.

Your Gyarados set is the one that's been overspammed in the early meta, people know how to play around it now.

Also 252 252 spreads aren't the best for any pokémon that isn't a sweeper like Nihilego.
>>
>>30707985

Put protect on everything
Don't do 252/252 spreads. Actually do calcs to see how many evs you actually need.
>>
>>30708094
I suck at math though.
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>>30708129
Do you think anyone is good at math?
https://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/
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>>30707406
Well, what situations would you use her in?
>>
>>30708209
Against any other setup that can't threaten her with those moves but you're never going to find a setup that's not prepared for her. Take out the threats first then sub in and leech/slam/sub your path to victory.
>>
>>30708171
Fuck. Well what should I test Koko against? What nature do people run on Araquanid?
>>
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Koko Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Araquanid: 276-328 (99.2 - 117.9%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

Hmmm
>>
>>30708533
factor in the terrain and bam
>>
>>30708553
That's with terrain.
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>>30708595
oh, jokes on me. I thought the calc text said that explicitly.
>>
>>30708609
Yeah but man. That sucks that you can only get a close to guaranteed kill on that damn bug with 252 spa and terrain AND lo
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>>30708645
you can run electrium z for surprise kills
also who on earth would ever run araquanid with that spread
>>
>>30708645
It has huge base special D, what do you expect?
>>
>>30708743
I don't know what spread people run. Likewise for Celesteela. BUT.

156+ SpA Life Orb Tapu Koko Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Araquanid: 281-330 (101 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>
How to properly demolish a Lilligant-Toarkoal team
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7vgc2017-495064831
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>>30708816
The best way to demolish it is to play a retard who doesn't know how to run it?
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>>30694387
>still no gf
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>>30694479
>http://www.trainertower.com/european-international-championships/

I wish we could get some info on the sets. I'm curious to see what Kinugawa Yuma is running, as he shares 5 pokemon with the team I run and I'd like to contrast his sets with the ones I'm running
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where can I see where all the regionals are in the U.S.? I normally check nuggetbridge but it's down
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>>30709883
http://www.serebii.net/vgc/
http://www.serebii.net/vgc/2017/regional.shtml
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I'm breeding a Persian and Assault Vest Raichu. What EVs would be best on them?
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>>30710326
Whatever is good at killing and surviving threats from the field. Do the calcs odds are no one will have a recommendation for your obscure stuff.
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Muk-Alola (M) @ Aguav Berry
Ability: Gluttony
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Atk / 164 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Taunt
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab
- Protect

How's this Muk looking? I'd like to do damage calcs, but for whatever reason, A-Muk isn't on the calculator.

I'm considering running more defense than special def since Muk's only weakness is ground moves, but idk.

Likewise I'm considering switching poison jab for gunk shot for more damage
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>>30710411
Gunk Shot's accuracy is kinda shaky, but don't hesitate to test it out.

On a side note, people tend to run Celesteela with a Sp.Def Nature like Sassy, right? I was thinking about going with a Brave nature for a little more offense (also because the other Celesteela I have has a terrible nature), any advices?
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>>30695966
>>30695967
>>30695970
>>30695978
>>30696311
nicks are only disabled in random matchups, you can see them just fine otherwise

t. accidentally revealed my power level to plenty of random shitters challenging me through passerbys on PSS
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>>30709982
>ywn live to see a Toronto regional
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IGN: Galileo
Deposited: Level 26 Male Fearow
I want to fill my pokedex
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>>30711337
My bad wrong thread
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>>30711337
>>30711428
the funniest thing ive seen all week
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What are the upsides to using Politoed over Pelipper? Considering options for my rain team, which is currently

Koko
Gyarados
Nihilego
Togedemaru
Celesteela
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>>30712455
Politoed is meant to be played defensively. It has good stats, encore, and perish song.
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>people STILL take competitive pokemon seriously

Oh yowza. The mirror matches, the stalls. HEALTHY META
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>>30695620
Hidden Power gives hackers a huge advantage
>>
>there are people who both hate playing the game so much that they feel the need to hack but still can't bring themselves to play something that they would actually enjoy
>these people have a massive superiority complex over people who actually play the game legitimately
>these same people complain about being called out on being literal cheaters
Injectorfags should be gassed
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>>30713682
That's some nice metabait but you need to try harder.
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>>30713433
YEAH I AM EDGY AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT STUFF!!! HEH I AM COOL
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>>30713886
>not caring about a shit game that is the joke of "competitive" gaming makes you a tryhard

okay faggot. have fun breeding your team like an autist. or do you inject like a cheating loser? either one makes you retarded. smart people don't care about this game. the hard truth.
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>>30713703
>>30713874
t.people who actually cheat at children's games
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>>30714335
My two boxes full of imperfect Grimers say otherwise
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>>30713669
Game just came out. Give it some time to centralize.
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Did anyone get caught out for cheating this time? I love cheater tears.
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>>30714322
HEH YEAH I DON'T CARE AT ALL, ABOUT ANYTHING ;) MY MOM SAYS I CAN STAY UP LATE TONIGHT
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>>30714893
Look at this triggered faggot.
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>>30694387
test
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>>30713433
Clearly, it is taken seriously if people still attend their events year by year. And besides, whining about the game here doesn't give you enough attention.
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>>30715748
How many people attend? It's a fucking nerd gathering no different than a local convention.
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>Xurkitree in Top 3
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-Def or -Sp. Def for a mixed Silvally?
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Is Xurk, Bulu, Muk a good core?
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I'm getting blown the fuck up on showdown. I feel like my team has no answers to bulky pokemon or the like, which makes sense because my team is so stupidly offensive oriented
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>>30717490
Probably Grass after seeing it these days (can't be seeded, gets Grassy boost and resists EQ while being able to hit Chomp with Ice Beam) but with the possibility of using it for other shit in the future if I feel like doing so.

I'm leaning more to the -Sp- Def side but wanted to hear if any of you has things to say.

Also what other types you all think might work.
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>>30714322
>it's an anon tries to prove how cool he is by being the most indifferent and edgy episode
>>
Is it all over?
>>
>>30713397
all-female eeveelution team with personalized tryhard names to fill the void in my soul
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>>30718105
Yeah, 14 hours ago. Miguel won. You can still watch the playback on Twitch, and some guy uploaded videos of the streamed matches to YT.
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So what happened to that fag running a Beast Ball Porygon2?
>>
what is a good spread and set for gastrodon? Anyone mind sharing your spreads if you have used him?
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>>30719108
Wait, is that impossible to obtain?
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>>30719481
Obviously you fuckin returd
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>>30719550

While it is, it doesn't disqualify his Porygon2. Obviously the first Porygon in the breeding chain was hacked, but that doesn't mean that he didn't legitimately breed the one he currently has.
>>
Why the fuck is this still stickied

What Porygon2's role on Wolfe's team? Did it have TR?
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>>30719608
it does. read the rules again. also it's not legitimate if it wasn't bred legitimate faggot. get that 6iv ditto out of here. these are the rules.
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>>30719713
get back in your hugbox. It's fine for the world championship :^)
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>>30720037
It's against the rules you just didn't get caught if you got by it dumbass. I mean, really. stupid ass poster.
>>
Reminder that hacks were more rare a thing until newfag redditors came back to /vp/ with the new gen. Just wait a few months and they'll go.
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>>30720004
The rules actually changed this year regarding this.
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>>30721103
?
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>>30721147
ok
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>>30720241
I've been trading hacks in /wfg/ for over 21 months now. Just inject whatever is requested and offer it to them. It takes less than 5 minutes to do. The longest delay is actually booting up the 3ds and getting online. I just answer whenever I get bored.
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>>30721230
Do you do this without telling people they are hacked? That is some pure devilish if so
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>>30721256
it really fucking isn't though if he isn't hacking any illegal moves, balls, or stats
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>>30721413
It is actually.
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Using Gluttony/Figy Muk for the first time, it' so good

>they try to double into it
>you just get healed back to near full HP
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Why is the thread still stickied?

>>30721230
This is more even more autistic than all those people spending days grinding eggs you send those hacks to
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>>30721691
I love it soo so much. Are you running stockpile?
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>>30721702
Why was it stickied to begin with? VGC is cancer
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>>30721780
nope, I just threw Taunt on it
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>>30721691
Does it have a specific set of EVs? or its 252 252?
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Yo guys, i was living pretty much under a rock since two weeks prior to release, the question is:
Can i go online with the lurantid cia or do i need a new one?
Thx alot.
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>>30721256
no, I don't tell them. I just keep a copy of their leftover traded mon and use it for the next request. So if someone else a month later wants an extreme speed dratini, I already have one made, etc.

It's all just bytes


>>30721702
I never denied it was autistic :^)
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>>30721812
Stockpile in sand next to giga nigga. Wall all day long. I keep outslowing tr setters. It's delicious.
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>>30721969
you can go online with it, but it's just better to export your save with JKSV then download the real copy through freeshop and import your save back into it
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>>30696009
Refute this atheists
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>>30722291
trading
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>>30721969
New one
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New thread when?
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>>30722360
They could easily sensor the name out after the trade by giving it the default name.
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new
>>30723827
>>30723827
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