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LETS GET RID OF NORMAL TYPE!!!
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and while we are at it we stop flying type from being just a secondary type

Thoughts?
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>>25101854
What types would they become if they roosted?
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>>25101872
typeless
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>>25101854
You've just made Ghost am offensive powerhouse type, congratulations breaking the meta.
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So Ghost type becomes a bit more powerful if this is true, since 97 pokemon now lose their immunity.
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>>25101889
when you're willing to remove a type out of existence it's not too much of a stretch to assume that the other types would be rebalanced
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>>25101854
>Snorlax line
>being pansy-ass fairies
"no"

also, what's wrong with the normal type? why does it need removing?
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>>25101854
No.
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>>25101854
>??? Type

Dropped
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>>25101854
If anything they should just be smarter with how they hand it out. Like Pyroar is really a bit much.
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>>25101924
It's inspired by Totoro. Fairy type isn't reserved to pink girlymons. See Xerneas and Mawile.

The alternatives would be fighting, dark or ground, which do not fit nearly as well as fairy.
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>>25101924
People tend to think it's lack of super-effective typing makes it useless, even though that is countered by the immunity to Ghost.

I mean, what could Normal even be logically made super-effective against? Never really got the weakness to Fighting though (Is it because normal people are weaker than people who know how to fight?).
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>>25101947

>Take lion
>give it a mane of fire

Plus lions are known for roaring, so the Normal type gives them STAB on Hyper Voice.
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>Zigzagoon
>Dark
It is literally just a raccoon that zigzags. How is that dark in the slightest? It only learns ONE dark move through level up and that is fucking FLING! The strongest one through TMs is Thief. Dark type literally makes no sense on it.
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>>25101956
That's why we don't need to get rid of normal type, it's generally reserved for Pokemon that resemble real animals that you'd find in a field or something. Discounting water types.

Also, why get rid of normal if you're gonna add "???"? At that point just change normal to act like the ??? you're proposing.
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>starly, spearow, pidove lines
Dark/Flying
>rufflet line
Fighting/Flying
>doduo line
Ground/Flying
>furfrou
Dark
>lillipup line
Ground
>aipom line
Dark/Fighting
>deerling line
Grass
>porygon line
Psychic/Electric
>castform
Flying
>smeargle
Dark?
>regigigas
Fighting
>kecleon
Psychic
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It started as a type dedicated to animals without special attributes, cute pink blobs that fit nothing else and gimmick mons like ditto. However it's not even a pure neutral type, considering it has it's own quirks like being immune to ghost and weak against fighting. Does it really make sense for Ditto and the Pokegod to be weak against fighting?
Now things get even dumber the more and more they make normal type pokemon with double typing.

Then there's flying which was initially just a secondary type but tornadus already broke the rule and it's the main type of Noivern.

>>25101994
??? is reserved for pure neutral pokemon. ditto gets a type when transforming. eevee gets a type when evolving. porygon gets a type through conversion. castform gets a type by changing the weather. kekleon gets a type when hit. arceus gets a type when holding a plate
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>>25102024
>furfrou
>entire gimmick centered around gay haircuts
>not fairy
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>>25101992
Racoons are literally known for stealing.
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>>25102115

It's literally just a poodle
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>>25102129
You know what else very commonly steals things? ALL SMALL BIRDS!!! Is pidgey now a dark type?
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>>25102163
literally just a bulldog
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>>25102173
Except racoons are specifically known for that.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RascallyRaccoon
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>porygon family considered gimmick pokemon

OP, pls.
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>>25102220
>What is Conversion
>What is Conversion 2
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>>25102054
>porygon gets a type through conversion

Then what the fuck do you do with Adaptability on Porygon-Z when it has no type with no typeless moves to begin with? Force it to have conversion and fuck it over even more compared to 2? Why? For what purpose?
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>>25101854
>LETS GET RID OF NORMAL TYPE!!!
No.
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>>25102229

>forcing a useless move on to a pokemon that's built as a glass cannon and can't afford to use that extra turn to set up when it already needs at least one setup

It's like you want Porygon-Z to go in to the dumpster.
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>>25101854
>get rid of normal type
>add another type anyway
Die
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>>25102274
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%3F%3F%3F_%28type%29
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>>25102314

It was removed.
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>>25102274
It's not a regular type, it's just reserved for pokémon who's gimmicks and or flavor dictate they should be completely neutral
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>>25102354

That's still a type.
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>>25102314

It was only used for Curse.

They removed it in Gen 5 and made Curse a Ghost-type move.
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>>25102054
>>25102229
>using conversion
>ever
I shiggy diggy doo.
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>>25101854
I like it. Normal type bugs me aswell.

The only things I would change would be perhaps to make teddiursa/ursaring and aipom/ambipom fighting/dark. Maybe Tauros and Boufallant ground/dark.
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>>25102447
Das racist
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>>25102461
not as much as this
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>>25101854
I've always wanted Porygon to be Electric, or Electric/Psychic even. Would be easier to fit on my teams.
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>>25101854
Normal should be a "true neutral" type. No weaknesses and nothing resisting it, but it has no resists or immunities or strengths.
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>>25103028

Yes, let's make Chansey/Blissey even more of a bitch to take down

Normal is fine the way it is

It's weak to Fighting because Fighting-types are trained martial artists and Normal-types are, well, normal, and they can't tough Ghosts, but Ghosts can't touch them either, so it's balanced
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>>25101854
What happens to all of the Normal type moves?
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>>25101956
>I want to pretend Fairy type is something it isn't

Okay.
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>>25103074
In that case, let's make a new Neutral-type instead.
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>>25103084
>implying Barrierd is girly
>implying Gardeoir line is pink
>implying Azumarill is pink or girly
>implying Granbull is girly
>implying Togekiss is pink or girly
>implying Carbink is pink or girly
>implying Klefki is pink or girly
>implying Xerneas is pink or girly
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>>25103101
Never said anything about them all being pink, butthurt Anon.
And togekiss is cutesy as fuck.
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>>25101854
No weakness Porygon2

Sign me the fuck up
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>>25103154
Togekiss is also a machine constructed solely for the purpose of seek and destroy.

>dat bulk
>dat move pool
>dat serene grace
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>>25101889
don't worry we can just make ??? type resist ghost
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>Thoughts?

First thought was, "Fuck you"
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>>25101854
I like it conceptually but in practice it would destroy the meta and upset people more than fix things
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>>25101854
Just give the ghost type a weakness to normal type moves
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>>25102208
>tvtropes
kill yourself
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>>25102179
Bipedal, pink and with orc teeths. He is not a literal bulldog, you faggot.
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porygon could be electric/ghost or electric/psychic
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>>25101854
>all those idiotic Fairy retypes
>get rid of Normal and reintroduce ???
Shit
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>>25102129
>>25102208
Zigzagoon is not a raccoon, but a raccoon-dog/tanuki.
Entirely different animal.
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>>25105246
different animal that happens to also be known for being a naughty trickster
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>>25102229
>porygon family considered gimmick pokemon
>N-no just make it use these two useless and extremely situational moves, it'll be fine!
OP you're either retarded or baiting hard
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>>25101854
>exploud/chatot/swellow all lose STAB boomburst
>persian/ambipom both lose STAB fake-out
>ursaring/zangoose/raticate all lose STAB facade
>helioptile/wiggly/exploud all lose STAB hyper voice
a lot of these guys would be worse for wear
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There's nothing wrong with normal.

Also
>Porygon line is a gimmick
Are you retarded?
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>>25103197
Still not enough. Make it an immunity to ghost and in return give ghost an immunity to it. And while we're at it we could use it to reshape the type chart a bit. I think some good small changes would be to make it resisted by rock (rock needs boosts) and steel (obligatory). Fighting would lose its edge without the normal type so I think also give it a weakness to fighting.

Good ideas though anons, ???/typeless is a good replacement for normal, which was admittedly pretty useless.
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TFW no giga impact STAB
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>>25101854
What about Normal type moves
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>>25103074
that isnt balanced though is it.
they cant touch ghosts and ghosts cant touch them is balanced.
also having fighting wreck them gives them one advantage equal to one of their disadvantages, and then also a second big disadvantage with no counterbalance.
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>>25105427
the point is that Chansey is mainly used as a special wall, not as a powerhouse
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>>25105427
Making anything weak to normal would completely destroy the balance because almost every single Pokemon learns normal moves.
Whatever you let normal be good against would instantly become the shittiest type as every Pokemon gets SE options against it.
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>>25105425
typeless.
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>>25103101
>barrierd

what the fuck is that
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>>25105707
Mr Mime I think
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>>25101956
>it's inspired by Totoro
Source on that?
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>>25101956
>inspired by totoro

wtf anon pls
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>>25101854
>implying vigoroth line can be fighting
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you faggots want everything to be part dark gg thats the edgyness i expect from you
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>>25101854
>stop identifying only certain pokemon normal, we are normal too, you know!

Fucking sjws, just fuck off already.
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>everything has to be speshul!!!
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>>25105789
>>25105776
>Source on that?
my eyes and critical thinking

Next thing you're gonna deny that Xerneas isn't inspired by the forest spirit from Princess Mononoke
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>>25105858
ok. you're ridiculous.
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>>25105872
right.

Tyranitar isn't Godzilla either
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>>25105875
omg, anon, please stop.
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>>25101854
What about every single normal type move?
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>>25105880
I honestly hope you're trolling.
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>>25105897
typeless
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>>25105909
meant for >>25105884
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>>25101854
why would bulls be dark type? Why not fighting? Why racoon and badger dark but tanuki and ferret ground? Why Zangoose dark? Why Kanghaskan ground or fighting for that matter? why random animals fairy?
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why bother with all this fanfiction?
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>>25101854
I get Persian and maybe Raticate, but the rest of the Dark types arent justified
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>meloetta not fairy/psychic and fairy/fighting
you were so close but you lost me. it makes more sense for her to be part fairy than for lopunny to be
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>>25105858
I'm surprised I never thought of this
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>>25101854
Whar's the point of removing normal if you're gunnu create "???"
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>>25101961
>I mean, what could Normal even be logically made super-effective against?

Fairy
Normal = reality = defeats fantasy
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>>25107552
>http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%3F%3F%3F_%28type%29
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>>25101854
It actually looks good, but ??? needs an actual name
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>>25107641
Typeless or Neutral
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>>25107641
>>25107666
How about Normal?
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>>25108288
sounds gay
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>>25105858
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The real question is what happens to Normal type moves.
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>>25101854
>slaking
>GROUND sloth
>fighting

????
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>>25101994
>Also, why get rid of normal if you're gonna add "???"? At that point just change normal to act like the ??? you're proposing.
yes yes.
A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.

OP you suck dicks
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>>25101910
Waste of time.
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>>25109172
typeless
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>>25101854

The problem with Normal isn't that it exists, but rather that it's combined with things. By nature of being an elemental beast, you're no longer "normal". All Pokémon that are half-normal should have the typing removed, with the exception of Doduo/Dodrio who should become pure Normal because, well, they don't fly.
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>>25101854
Can someone do this for all the normal type moves too?

At least then this could be a complete graph, even if its a little unreasonable to get rid of a type at this point
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>>25111909
flying is pretty much birb type at this point, and is also given out to anything that manipulates air/wind
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>>25111964
Nice to know that roosters and penguins are not birds.
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>>25101854
Exploud line not Soind type?
I think introducing this type, in face of eliminating Normal, would make much more sense even if it to be of a limited pool instead of making whismur a fairy.
Other sound types: Noivern, Pyroar, Meloetta, Chatot, Jiggly line, Mismagius (if it isn't ghost/fairy).
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>>25101872
ground duh
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>Zangoose dark
But it clearly has white fur
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>>25105858
pic related also inspired by tototoro
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>>25101854
ursaring should be fairy fighiing
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>>25112411
dark fighting maybe, maybe even ground fighting, but definately not fairy fighting
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>>25101854
10/10 OP Great work

Love the utilization of ???-type
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>>25113663
is this a troll?
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>>25112407
are you being intentionally stupid?
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