>>25070093 >>25070156 Meganium has a pretty generic design, especially for all of the starters. While it's still not bad, it's not fun to use in-game at all, as it's weak to or can't damage 6/8 of the in-game gyms. It really only gets grass and normal moves for coverage, doesn't get a lot for support, and has lukewarm attack and special attack on top of that. I like meganium, but it doesn't have much to set it out from the other starters at all.
>>25070111 >RSE Sceptile Sceptile wasn't bad in RSE at all, it had leaf blade, dragon claw, and some other random coverage moves that made it pretty good in-game. It had the special attack to use them, too. Especially with dat speed. Oceans better than either iteration of meganium.
>>25070093 Looks like a round, fat mess with a long rounded cylinder for a head. Completely bland design, even for a cute flower. Doesn't stand out as a good plant/animal choice, with Pokemon such as Sunflora having more lore behind them than "muh herb + dinosaur". Overall shitty plant and animal choice, unlike all other Grass starters (and most grass types desu). The starters have a plant/animal relation in concept and/or design (jungle gecko exist, vine snake exist, hedgehogs and chestnut both are "defensive" looking). Heck, even Venusaur has more of a relation to the random flower on it's back, because it's functional and substitutes his normal animal species' scale spikes... unlike Meganium's neck thing, which is totally and completely random. Competitively and in-game, Meganium is also utterly shit, so I'm sure that helps. Freaking 1st and 2nd gyms shit on Grass types.
>>25070242 I should say it's weak to or can't damage 6/8 pre-kanto gyms, it's also unable to damage 3/4ths of the E4 very readily, and doesn't do shit to 3/8 kanto gyms either. that said, pokemon is easy and meganium is far from the ugliest pokemon, if you like it use it it's one of the cuter grass types imo
>>25070254 I picked Grass starters in my first run in all Pokemon games I played, and it was quite hard to be spoiled back in the day. As a Grass type fanatic, I still consider Meganium to be the worst starter ever created.
>>25070093 >looks gay as fuck, has a horrible bland design >defensive mono-grass, wow its fucking nothing >shit moveset, could have at least done better than the standard powders/seed fare >overall forgettable, doesn't even feel like a starter >memed to hell and back by this cancerous community and its furfags >and of course, ingame disadvantage against every major trainer you fight Its really just a solidly bad pokemon, no redeeming qualities about it other than the faggots who say it's cute as a pathetic attempt to justify their faggotry
It just seems like GF tried to hard to pander to girls with it. Tododile was the 'cool' choice, Chikorita was the 'cute' choice and Cyndaquil was the in between. They did it a lot better with Gen 3, I know a lot of girls who like Torchic and Mudkip, but I know a lot of guys who like them too.
>>25072437 This. Game Freak has gotten much better at making the choice for your starter more even since GS, but Chikorita just can't compete with Cyndaquil and Totodile. It's still a nice interesting design and I have used it before. It just lacks aesthetically. I still don't think it's the worst start of all time though. That's a three way tie of the Unova starters.
I don't think Meganium's design is widely hated, there's just no reason to use it over any decent grass type. It has nothing that stands out for it, anything it can do can be done better by another pokemon.
Admittedly most of those statements could be applied to Typhlosion nowadays.
>it doesn't look cool >it doesn't look cute >it's a grass starter in the only region in the whole series where no gyms are weak to grass >its competitively useless >and to add insult to injury, you can catch better grass pokemon within 30 mins of playtime anyway
So I'm playing Black 2 for the first time and Dewott quickly came into my favor. I collected BP and red shards to teach it Ice Punch but it can't learn it. WTF? HOW THE FUCK DOES IT NOT LEARN LEARN ICE PUNCH BUT I COULD TEACH IT TO LUCARIO FUCK U GF
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