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You can change them only if the move, ability, or type change in question is in line with their pokedex entry, lore, or physiology(like a pokemon with a tail being able to use Iron Tail.

>INB4 GALE WINGS, (type)-IATE, HUGE/PURE POWER

Ex:
- Coil for the Onyx line
- Fire/Fairy Typing for Rapidash as it is a unicorn
- Tinted lens for Flygon
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That wouldn't make any of them OU
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>>25050388
was just showing example of changes based on lore, anatomy, or dex entries.

Onyx are snakes that can coil, Rapidash is based on the unicorn that is a fairy entity in european lore, and Flygons entries all talk about his tinted lens around his eyes to protect him from sandstorms.
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Boomburst and more SpA for Wigglytuff
Might get it out of PU at least ; _ ;
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le give it boomburst mem
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Dragon/steel haxorus.
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>>25050435
Fuck you man it would kind of work for that line
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Make Illusion turn into Protean after the first hit
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>>25050374
>Ghost/fairy Mismagius line with Boomburst

They are Banshee, fairy ghost spirits that scream and sing their prey to their death.
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>>25050434
actually it fits and works good for it. but only wigglytuff can have it, more of boomburst itt and i'll report you
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Get rid of the normal typing
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>>25050374
you can do all that with cheat devices
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Aerilate Rotom-F
Magic Guard Articuno
Sticky Web, Recover Forretress
Dragon Ascent Gyarados
DDance Garchomp
Role Play Slaking
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Bellosom gets Fire-type attacks and Fire sub-typing. Maybe also Solar Power as secondary ability? It's literally tropical flower, both in-universe and the thing that's it partially based on.

And maybe Hyper Voice, considering Oddish is based on mandragora/mandrake, which in myths, if were to be pulled out, would scream.
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>>25050764
Hyper Voice for entire line*
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Give Suicune Aeroblast
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Blastoise with Shell Smash
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>>25050531
>boomburst

It just needs fairy typing and moonblast.
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>>25050474
Remove team preview and give it a movepool comparable to the clefairy line.
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>>25050531
I really really like this 2015 banshee maymay.
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+13 speed and Mega Launcher or Sheer Force as Hidden Ability.
Watch it outspeed many common sweepers and shit on everything with it's high powered attacks or the huge attack boost from Sheer Force + LO.
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>>25051721
make night daze do double damage when disguised
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Gourgeist-XL
Grass/Ghost
Flash Fire

Learns Fire Fang by level up.
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>>25050374
>Tinted lens for Flygon
>OU
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>>25051836
see
>>25050400
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>>25051808
alternatively you could just make it into a special attacker

mine:
rotom-fan gets hurricane isntead of air slash
mantine gets roost
articuno swaps special attack with special defense
regigigas gets pressure has a hidden ability
slaking gets slow start as a hidden ability
audino gets softboiled
granbull and ampharos get wish
white smoke now prevents self-inflicted drops (watch torkoal rise to OU with shell smash, overheat and superpower)
lickilicky is now normal/fairy and gets play rough
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Quiver Dance Yanmega with Hurricane?
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>>25051875
Won't make him OU though senpai regardless of headcannon autism.
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Suicune stays pure Water but gets some Flying type attacks and utility moves, because it's the North Wind pokemon. If it had Defog and Hurricane it would be OU for sure.
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>>25051980
he was just using an example he didn't think through much, stop being so damn autistic over it
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>>25051981
what suicune needs is speed
it already gets air slash for wind gimmicky shit
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Remove Damp as an ability and give it No Guard. 100% Hypnosis and Dynamic Punch.

Maybe a few new moves like Aqua Jet and Drain Punch too. It wouldn't make it OU but it would make it a lot more viable.
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>>25052010

Air Slash sucks, it would appreciate Speed (everything would besides like Gyro Ball users), but Defog for utility? It would probably be the best hazard remover in the game. Rain Dance + Hurricane, whilst not having the weaknesses to hazards and common attacks that Flying types suffer from?

It's impossible to prove but I'm fairly certain with those two moves it would be OU. I fail to see how it wouldn't be.
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>>25050374
Poliwrath gets No Guard

Guaranteed Hypnosis
Guaranteed Hydro Pump
Guaranteed Blizzard
Guaranteed Dynamic Punch

Preferably on a Mega Evolution that raises his speed to at least outspeed Landorus.

Why would No Guard make sense? Imagine Poliwrath creating whirlpools that draw foes toward it to guarantee it lands its hits.
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>>25052042
>It would probably be the best hazard remover in the game
meh. it's viable to all kinds of hazards and doesn't have anyway to directly recover health or remove status. also kinda slowish which means vulnerable to taunt. but it is bulky as fuck though.
but yeah it would be
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>>25052019
>>25052050
now kiss
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Make Normal immune to Fairy.

Normal people don't believe in ghosts.

Normal people don't believe in fairies.
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>>25052093
i want to make love to you
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>>25052093
normal people believe in god
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>>25052104
that's why arceus is a normal type
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>>25050374
>>25050400
>Onyx
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>>25052093
i would rather make grass SE and/or resist fairy. fairy is life/nature related (xerneas) so an element that is exactly that should have advantage over it
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>>25052334
But poison, the closest thing we have to an anti-life type already resists it. Clearly fairy should be SE against grass
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It's not completely out of the realm of possibility for Snorlax to get Knock Off. It would certainly make him more relevant.

But for something that fits more Slack Off because at least it fits thematically.

Slack Off would make him even tankier and that alone might bump him up but if used with something like Knock Off or Sucker Punch it would definitely bring him up to OU.
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Leech Fang
>Physical poison move that steals health (33% of damage dealt)
>80 BP
>80 Accuracy
>picking these numbers out of my ass

Ability: Toxicity
>Increases damage from poison and toxic
>+1/12 damage dealt, is added to poison and toxic damage, damage from toxicity is static(doesn't change)

too much on either option?
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>>25051784
This would actually make night daze good and incentivize maximum use of Zoroark's illusion
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Give Pory-Z Techno Blast.

It's a technological Pokémon, makes sense.
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>>25050374

I give Quiver Dance, Tinted Lens, the Dragon/Bug typing to Flygon.

Oh, yeah, he also gets Bug Buzz and X-Scissor as bug moves, Dragon Pulse from TM
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>>25054479
>Dragon/Bug
But that makes it worse. Just do Quiver Dance with Earth Power and Dragon Pulse.
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Step 1. Take a pokemon
Step 2. Make a mega for it
Step 3. Give the mega at least 130 attack/special attack and 120 speed

Congratulations your pokemon is now at least OU material, if not outright Uber.
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>>25055205
You forgot a step.
>Step 4. Don't give it a fucktarded ability
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>>25055205
>mega beedrill
>mega pidgeot (kinda)
>mega aerodactyl
>mega-sceptile
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>>25051760
Or if you want him banned to Ubers plus 13 speed and contrary.
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>>25051784
That would actually make edgyfox pretty good
10/10

>>25050374
>>25050400
The onix line would really only be good if they had a flat +40 boost to their attack stat, since for some reason a huge rock snek hits as hard as a walking raddish.
>add +40 attack to each member of the onix line
>mega steelix loses 20 SPA and gains 20 SDEF
I love the onix line, and hate how they're so shit offensively

Flygon needs like +20 speed and attack/special attack to even be usable over other dragon/ground types, give it its niche as a fast revenge killer that can do decent damage back.
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>>25052448
Snorlax also needs a little bit of an offensive buff, like +10 attack or something. Slack off, +10 attack, maybe even drain punch or a healing offensive move to use with assault vest.

change its HA to simple to bring back curselax
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>>25055205
>130 attack/special attack on a mega
enjoy hitting like a wet noodle, anon-kun
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Would Dragon Rush be too much to ask?
Some extra bulk would be really nice as well, but Rush is all I'm asking for here.
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>>25051898
>Torkoal in OU
Always been my bro, I need this. It should also prevent statups, though.
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>>25055481
I just want it to get a Dragon/Rock evo, then a mega.
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>>25055551
Dragon/Rock would definitely fit the gargoyle motif, but I do hate the extra weaknesses a Rock typing will add.
I wouldn't really want a mega, I'd prefer to stick with Life Orb+Sheer Force shenanigans.
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>>25055583
I'd like a buff to Rock types first, of course, but it'd be cool if the gargoyle Pokemon was Rock type. Maybe the colors could be faded, too, because a lot of people hate the colorfulness of this rad 'Mon.
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>>25055602
I disliked its design and colours at first, but it really grew on me.
Always figured the bright red head and stooped posture was a nod to Crom Cruach, so muting the colours would be a shame, if you asked me.
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>>25055648
It could look like faded paint, still there, but lighter. It just feels like there are only a few Druddigon fans, and I'd like to increase our numbers. Maybe people could learn to appreciate the colors, too, if they started liking its evo.
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>>25055660
It'd be great if it got a little more love.
Sadly, I fear it will always be remembered as "that Lego dragon".
And GF has been terrible with adding new evos.
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>>25055680
Next gen we'll get gen 4 remakes, so hopefully GF'll put some CrossGens in for the sake of nostalgia in kiddies who grew up.
Also for us.
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>>25055540
in that case torkoal isn't going anywhere because shell smash is useless on it
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>>25055728
I just don't want it to be OP, but maybe you're right. It still has shit stats, so maybe it wouldn't be too bad if it was able to use Shell Smash.
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Serene Grace to Milotic

I think I just pissed off smogon with that one
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>>25055796
>60% burn Scald
I think that would piss me off too.
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>>25050434

I want usable Wigglytuff so bad. Unfortunately it pretty much needs a mega with a great ability to even get to UU.

I'd say:
Fur Coat
HP: 140
Atk: 70
Def: 85 (+40)
SpAtk: 125 (+40)
SpDef: 90 (+40)
Speed: 25 (-20)

boomburst optional
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>>25055924

Alternative, because Wigglytuff is TUFF.

M-Tuff
Fairy/Fighting, give it a gruff man-chin and buff arms/upper body
Defiant
HP: 140
Atk: 120 (+50)
Def: 85 (+40)
SpAtk: 55 (-30)
SpDef: 90 (+40)
Speed: 45

Still wouldn't be great to be honest but I didn't want to minmax too hard and drop his SpAtk any further.
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>>25055986
Take more of its speed. It could be good in Trick Room.
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>>25052380
I totally agree with your reasoning as to why poison is SE on fairy, but why the hell should fairy be SE on grass?
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>>25056799
because gamefreak hates grass types
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>>25056880
Obviously, but I wanted to know his/your(?) explanation I.e. Psychic is weak to bug/dark/ghosts because those are common fears.
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>>25050434
Good, but toss on better defenses too. Make it the Fairy version of Blissey.
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Jesus Christ none of these suggestions would make anything OU.
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>>25051784
>Night Daze does double damage when disguised
>Able to get one Night Daze off per game under most circumstances, more if you use it well or bring it out late to clean up weak pokemon
>Life orb set does 50% to Blissey
This would be incredibly good and make seeing a Zoroark on your opponent's team a real scary proposition. Even if you do have a priority user on deck you're still faced with a 50/50 that matters way more than Zoroark in its current state.
It would also cause massive tears from Lucario fans though so it'll never happen.
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Noivern
Remove the Flying typing and give it a useful ability
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>>25057009
if you say aerialate im fucking done
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>>25057034

GF seems pretty content to spread around the -ilates and adaptability, it wouldn't surprise me.
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>>25056992
It would be even scarier if team preview wasn't a thing.
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>>25057202
if night daze did double damage when disguised AND team preview didnt exist I'm pretty sure zoroark would be banned, or at least suspected

even if team preview didn't exist any more it'd still be more threatening than it currently is which is to say, not particularly.
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Quick Attack
While quick attack doesn't hit anything SE and is resisted, it has 130 attack, guts, belly drum, and awesome coverage (CC + a plethora of other fighting moves, Play Rough, Crunch, a lot more). It would at least rise a few tiers.
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>>25056928
Are you sure?
>>25050758
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>>25057034
Why the hell would he want arialate if he wants to remove the flying type from it?
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>>25050758
DDance chomp would go to ubers instantly especially mega at +1 170 base attack barely anything survives on OU.

Role play slacking goes to uber since it just needs a single turn to sweep entire teams

Dragon Ascent is a Fug move only it is never happening.

Aerilite rotom isn't even a real improvement

Magic Guard articuno might go UU since exca is a thing

Forretress with recovery is extremely good as rock setter/spinner
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>>25057215
Maybe the accuracy lowering is switched for something else?
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>>25055986
>Go from Competitive to Defiant

That seems like a stretch
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Pidgeot
>"It can fly up to mach 2!!!"
basic speed, only gets quick attack
mega has shit ability

My solution
Mega gets Aerialate, and Extremespeed as level 1 move relearner move, gains atk instead of sp atk
Eat a dick Talonflame
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>>25058958
>DDance Chomp in Ubers

Char X is a thing and way more powerful with better coverage and recovery

>Dragon Ascen is a Fug move only

That's not the point, if Gyara got it he'd be OU for sure

>Aerilate Rotom isn't a real improvement

Are you fucking kidding me? it gets Hyper Voice and it has an amazing typing. Fan isn't even giving anything up because it's Flying
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Mega Lanturn
HP 125
Attack 55 (-3)
Defence 79 (+21)
Special Attack 109 (+33)
Special Defence 100 (+24)
Speed 92 (+25)

Ability: Motor Drive

Learns Tail Glow as a tutor move.
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>vigoroth
>eviolite for attack
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Vanilla Kyurem is stuck in BL 2. Not something worthy of a 660 BST mixed powerhouse. The problem is that its only ability is Pressure. Pressure is shit. Here are some better abilities for Vanilla Kyurem:

Refrigerate- It already learns Hyper Voice. Boosted Return/Frustration makes it able to go physical too.
Snow Warning- Accurate Blizzard Spam and breaks Sturdy/sashes
Regenerator- Kyurem is missing body parts and replaces them with Ice. Regenerator makes sense in that regard, and makes it a useful defensively since it gets Roost and has 125/90/90 bulk. Sure, Ice is a horrible defensive typing, but Dragon is an awesome defensive typing, so that should make up for it. Regenerator could also offset hazard damage from switching all the time.

What od you think? Can Vanilla Kyurem be saved?
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>>25061934
if kyurem had ice shard instead of icy wind it would be so much better (plus all kyurems would benefit from this)
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>>25060078

No Guard is far from a shit ability, and having it be a special attacker actually differentiated it from all of the other normal/flying types. It just needs a better movepool to take advantage of No Guard and it'd be good. Any one of Blizzard, Thunder, or Focus Blast being learnable would make it far better. Zap Cannon or Inferno would make it great.
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>>25061934
I'd like Filter.

>>25063804
Why not just give it Sheer Cold while you're at it?
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>>25060078
>no guard is shit ability
Have you ever played this game?
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>>25063821
I'm not legitimately suggesting it gets Zap Cannon or Inferno, but any of the 70-80% accuracy high damage special moves would move M-Pidgeot into OU. Its shit movepool is its problem, not its ability or stats or typing.
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Fix Farfetch'd.
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>>25066972
Farfetch'd was designed to be bad in game, how is it going to compete in the Meta-Game>
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>>25066972
Sniper, Stick is now +3 crit levels instead of 2, Extreme Speed.
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>>25052104
>normal people believe in my god
>but only my god
>all other gods are fictitious
>but not the one I was taught to believe in since birth
>isn't that a crazy co-inky-dink?
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>>25067343
>>>>/his/

>>25067285
Doesn't fix his prevolution-like stats, though. Farfetch'd needs an evolution. don't give it a mega, stick is a cool item
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>>25066972
the best way is evolution since even in little cup farfecth'd sucks
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