>>25046372 No, it's only down because of Fairies, so Sheer Force would be a blessing to help clear them. I'd personally like Mega Launcher for it, since it fits with it being a tank and actually boosting both STABs, despite not being helpful against Fairies.
Sheer Force basically replaces LO. And with the added 100 points to its stats it would certainly make hydreigon extremely good. Think about it as basically a LO hydregon but with boosted stats.
That's also why megas that have attack boosting abilities are usually the most powerful. As the abilities act as psuedo LOs but with better stats. The ATE abilities are the best examples of this as they act as basically Life Orb in addition to the increased base stat.
>>25046460 >>25046476 Either you're just being a contrarian or you're genuinely stupid if you think you can get away saying 'Fairy is the least of his problems, not being a sweeper is'. It wouldn't matter if he's faster if he still gets forced out.
And saying it doesn't hit as hard for a wall breaker is dead wrong, since the only sure switch-in to it in the game is Azumarill.
People still use it in OU and it puts in work, it's just that it can't spam its strongest moves as much. Look at Mega Medicham's abundance during the Mega Sableye suspect test. You take away the key switch-ins, and predators in wait take advantage of that.
>>25046372 If it had a Mega Evolution, I think all it would take is +10 Speed to bring it back to OU.
The other stats you can mess around with all you like since it already can go mixed, so pumping up Attack isn't wasted like with most Special Attackers, and more bulk isn't a bad thing either since it gets Roost and can turn into a bulky attacker with the right EV spread. Seriously, as long as you make it outspeed Mega Gardevoir you're in the clear.
As for what ability it gets, I would either keep Levitate or give it Sheer Force or maybe Hustle to be like its baby forms, except Hustle kinda sucks.
>>25049247 It's like I wasted my time saying "despite not being helpful against Fairies" if you're still going to point that out. It's not like Mega Camerupt became better equipped to deal with Water types.
>mega launcher boosts dragon Pulse, dark pulse, and flash cannon >specs boost equivalent to both its stabs >anywhere near a significant speed boost at all will jettison it to high use >could easily have 155-65 special attack You're looking at another mega metagross with potentially better speed and better type attacks.
>>25046372 Hydreigon always seemed more of a Mold Breaker kind of Pokemon. It gets all of the key moves needed for it bar a useful boosting move and it's just powerful and fast enough to assert itself as even more of a wallbreaker.
People whine about fairies, which hurts Hydreigon for sure, but it's biggest issue is it's awkward speed. Bumping up above 100, let alone 115 would make Hydreigon much more efficient at what it tries to do.
Your setup is what I've been preaching myself, roughly.
>>25046670 Hydreigon is meant to hit fast and hard. Weakened fairies die to flash cannon anyway and obviously some stuff like Azumarill or Florges will wall and kill regardless. By that same token Scizor can kill some fire types with superpower like Heatran, but will still always lose to, say, Tflame. You also seem to think I can't just switch out into my counter when a fairy comes out.
It struggles to kill anything seeing as Specs or LO Draco doesn't always get the job done and because there's numerous ways to stop it sweeping. 99 speed really hurts in this meta, dude.
What are you trying to say with the Medicham example? Good players aren't so automatically retarded as to assume they should switch into sableye since a medicham's on the field. Likewise, good players are not quick to bring out their gengar or whatever if they see a Hydreigon.
Don't listen to these retards who act as if Fairys are gen 1 psychic/normal or gen 2 snorlax. They see 4x weakness and think it fucking matters when the weakness the bug is fucking worse. Fucking faggots.
Another great example is Blaziken and fucking retards thinking that as long as it has 1 or 2 "counters"(and even the supposedly hard counters can be easily played around) it's okay in OU. These retards have no idea how battles actually work and see that Fairys is an extremely good typing and very popular and see that hydreigon is 4x weak to it an lacks an easy way to deal with all of them so they spout shit about how that is the main reason he sucks. These retards don't realize that this is a priority/speed meta first and foremost. Which hurts hidreigon the most. Then there are lesser known problems for it like how a dark move dominates the meta and because of it there is less need for a dedicated dark type that can't do the one thing its supposed to be able to do.
>>25052686 >dark type moves highly prevalent because of the steel nerf >hydreigon would be a bulky dark resist who also takes less damage from knock off if it had a mega while also having a powerful neutral stab to hit M-sableye and superpower for bisharp
If it's a wall it won't be fast or hit hard. If you do max out its offensive stats it'll still be a weaker LO variant.. Still, this is one of the few megas that won't send it to ubers as it is REALLY hard to not break something with 700 BST. Thank god that Ttar has more weaknesses than i can count and that mega garchomp was crippled with a useless ability, garbage speed and most of the added bst split between its offensive stats. They were too afraid with this one and it turned out to be garbage.
Hydreigons got such an odd stat spread, and it's perfect for a mega.
All of it's stats are good. It's got solid defenses, good offenses on both sides, and, at face value, decent speed. It's the specifics of everything that hurt it so much, like being just shy of a usable speed tier, and 125 being a bit lower than desired (given that special attacks are aggregate a bit softer than physical).
So long as they dont dick around and lower it's speed at all with a mega, it'll be good. Hell, just a measly 7 points in speed, putting at a 105 speed tier would open up so many more options for Hydreigon, its crazy.
>>25046372 Here's a thought: Contrary. If we go the hydra route, cutting off a head only makes it stronger. If we go the Mecha Ghidorah route, guess which Ghidorah fought for humanity's sake, contrary to the rest of its race? >>25054487 That would still be amazing.
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