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>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
>Trailer for upcoming events:
>Movie 19: Pokémon the Movie XY&Z 2016 [Jul 16th]
>Hoopa manga scanlation project
>XY&Z11: Noibat and Floette! An Encounter in the Wind!! [Jan 21st]
>XY&Z12: Ash and Serena! Getting One at a Dance Party!! [Jan 28th]
>XY&Z13: The Strongest Mega Battle! Greninja VS Mega Charizard!! [Feb 4th]
Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.
>Will Serena win da Ash?
It's happening! Again!
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.
THE POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z COMPLETE OVERVIEW SPECIAL SUBS:
MOVIE 18 RAW:
MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
MOVIE 18 SPIN OFF OVA SUBS:
NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z11: ONBAT AND FLOETTE! AN ENCOUNTER IN THE WIND!! (JANUARY 21ST)
>Onbat has been poisoned! A wild Floette comes to the rescue, and the two of them immediately hit it off nicely, however a mysterious shadow watches them from the shadows and...?
>As Satoshi and his friends are taking a break near a forest, they hear Onbat's screams coming from the forest. Apparently, Onbat ended up crashing into a wild Kinogassa while it flying. The angry Kinogassa poisoned it, but it got saved by a passing Floette. However, for some reason this just made the Kinogassa even angrier...?
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Yuka Terasaki: Onbat
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Noriko Shitaya: Yancham
>Mika Kanai: Eievui
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Horubee
>Kensuke Sato: Rentorar
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Kenta Miyake: Maaiika
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 16 (Jan 24th)
XY&Z12: Ash and Serena! Getting One at a Dance Party!! (Jan 28th)
>While she's practicing for her next Tripokalon, Serena receives an invitation to a dance party for Pokémon performers. The rule is that performers and Pokémon both pair up one male and one female, so Serena participates together with Eevee, Clemont and Bunnelby. But then Serena's rival Millefeui shows up and suddenly brings up the topic of pairing up with Ash and participating with him.
XY&Z13: The Strongest Mega Battle! Greninja VS Mega Charizard!! (Feb 4th)
>While continuing their journey, Ash and his friends reunite with the enthusiastic boy Shota. Ash immediately challenges him to a battle, but as they're fighting, Ash's Greninja undergoes that mysterious transformation. However, exactly what causes Greninja to change forms like this is completely unknown...
I accidentally watched the first few seconds of it on a site because I thought it was the raw or something
I bet they got changed the entire fucking song from GaoGao to some cheesy bullshit
Have you guys realized how much better long hair is than short?
kept Pikachu's singing, replaced all the other Pokemon voices with random noise, then ditched the entire thing about the narrator singing along, turning it into about 2 minutes of shitty dub VAs making noise into their mikes while you can occasionally hear Pikachu faintly singing Gaogao in the background
Implying that wasn't just one of you retards trying to create a counterbait solution.
Sorry, but the reality is, there is more than one person who won't conform with your shitty hugbox beliefs, and it doesn't matter whether ir triggers your autism or not.
The script was fucked, too.
>Narrator: This makes me want to sing along too!
>doesn't sing along
>Meowth: Let's sing it again!
>some shitty ending theme that's NOT Gaogao All Stars, the song they were just singing, starts playing
They didn't even pretend to care this time
>was the song even comprehensible or was it just random noises the whole way through
You could recognize Pikachu's singing as Gaogao if you were already familiar with the song. The rest was literally just noise, I don't think the dub VAs were even told there WAS a melody they were supposed to follow.
oh god this is a fucking disaster
and just when I thought the dub couldn't get any more sleazy
just can it already or up the budget and relocate to a studio that actually gives a rat's ass
I haven't watched Pokémon for many many years. I stopped watching when Misty left the group, now I hear Brock has abandoned Ash too.
I really liked Pokémon, will they ever join Ash again? I just can't bring myself to watching Pokémon again. I grew up watching Pokémon with Misty and Brock by the side of Ash. It just feels empty without them.
again if they had the budget and/or the effort we'd have a goodass translated version of GaoGao sung by a proper artist
Bulbapedo's saying the dub ending was sung by Serena's dub VA which is just fuck no
If you read the Yuyama interview from the movie site, you learn that this short is something he's been wanting to do nearly since the anime started, and the reason it took so long is because he had such a hard time figuring out how to do it right. It was a very personal project for him.
I hope he never learns how badly the dub raped something that meant so much to him.
>this short is something he's been wanting to do nearly since the anime started
What do you mean? Just any sort of short where the Pokemon sing a song together? Or something m ore specific than that?
you're five years late
Brock is gone
if they come back, cool, but it seems pretty damn unlikely at this point
Brock, maybe, but Misty? ehh
maybe at the end of XY when Ash heads back to Pallet Town we'll see something
I expected nothing of quality from the dub, ever
>Brock, maybe, but Misty? ehh
Why are japanese people so heartless?
Episode 13 most likely. It has to be among the batch we have the Data Broadcast for otherwise they wouldn't have animated pic related yet.
>"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" is actually something I've been wanting a chance to make since all the way back when the Pocket Monsters TV series first began.
>Back when the TV series first began and we decided to have all the Pokémon have individual cries, then got the voice actors to provide these Pokémon voices, I found the "sound" of the cries really interesting.
>Right from the get-go, I started thinking about whether we could use these sounds to create music.
>Even though the thought had entered my mind, though, I really didn't know what would be the best way to go about it.
>As such, it wasn't until this year I decided to finally do this thing.
they adapted Chiisaki Mono for the Jirachi dub if that counts
it's not that they're heartless it's just... why?
I mean the plot's not demanding them back, it's all a matter of what the writers want to do with the characters, and right now, they're not coming back at the moment
He wanted the Pokemon singing and what not. It's a personal thing for him.
>maybe at the end of XY when Ash heads back to Pallet Town we'll see something
You mean more Tracey meeting Misty? Brock's in Johto right now studying.
oh right Brock's doing that, I forgot
well then Brock's out of the equation, Misty might be more likely depending on what they'll do at the end of it all, whether or not we'll be getting a little Kanto arc or something for some reason
Yeah but that was en route to Kanto more than Kanto itself and that was pretty much the end of Unova anyway.
I've bad a habit of downloading fan art but not keeping up where I got it from. have this as an apology.
hopefully you are right, thanks anon!
Reminder that Breloom gets BTFO by Noibat in less than 10 hours.
PIKACHU, USE ELTHUNDER
Good god, this place is just like /feg/
Look how many people are voting for Iris as their fav female companion in this thread:
Is it just me or is Iris more popular than Serena on Serebii? That's what it seems like.
Sauce? This sounds like Shudo but is there a direct quote?
>giving up before it's over
Tomioka was the head writer of AG and DP, so you would be right. He was also the main writer of May and Dawn and their Contest arcs.
Tomioka took over the anime after Shudo quit around mid-Johto. This is also why the tail-end of Johto had some really good episodes, you can tell when the writing changed because the last 40ish episodes of Johto were a huge improvement over what came before.
>Tomioka was the head writer of AG
AG and the latter half of Johto did not have a head writer. Tomioka got the position when DP started.
If you look at what episodes he wrote in AG, it's pretty clear he was treated as one of, if not the, most important writers on the staff, though.
True, but someone had to decide what was happening in AG. He wrote almost all of May's big episodes and most of the Contest episodes, so he was in charge of her entire character.
Also everything about Ash becoming competent, evolving his pokemon, etc. in AG is very similar to how he's also handled in DP and now XY...so Tomioka must have had a hand in changing Ash's character during Hoenn.
This may be controversial but did anyone feel like Shudo had... contempt for the premise?
Like, Ash would have eventually gone home and given up his "childish" dreams. In his novels, his dad was a deadbeat who never amounted to anything, and both Flint and Lola ended up abandoning their families for dreams that ended in disappointment. Shudo walked off well before, but he was still advising and shit by the end of Johto, and both Gary and Misty decided to end their travels and follow in their various families' footsteps
It's a very "Set aside your childhood dreams, go home, be an adult, fulfill filial obligations" sort of message
Hidaka until AG159, then Sutou from AG171-AG193.
160-170 don't have a director listed, so either Yuyama acted in the role or they stopped crediting Hidaka once he quit even though there were 11 more episodes he had already worked enough on for them to not need further directing.
Shudo was probably bringing in realistic real-world stuff into a fantasy show like Pokemon.
He's like the old tired Japanese worker. They work all day every day and barely get any sleep.
Isn't that why he quit? Pokemon was still at the height of its popularity back in 2000 and that's around the time he stepped down. He wanted to make the anime some realistic life show about kids failing, while the marketers were surprised at the success of the franchise and banking it for all its worth.
I also noticed that in Kanto, the narrative takes every opportunity possible to shit on him. He gets something legitimately good on his team, it either immediately leaves or starts to disobey him. They go out of their way to humiliate Ash in front of a crowd of people in the Indigo League. Not even what happened in Unova was that bad - he lost because Charizard made him look like a laughable trainer.
Just fucking think. If the anime kept its plans to run only 18 months that would have been the end of it.
Unova wasn't as bad nominally speaking. But when you adjust for Ash's experience level, it becomes worse.
That is why he quit, yes. But do we NEED another fucking story that treats life like its soul crushing? Ash may repeatedly fail to win the championship, but they manage to show that he sees his journey as worthwhile and his perseverance is admirable.
Shudo's message is basically "This sucks. The only merit of defeat us to show you how pointless trying is. Grow up kids and fulfill obrigation to famry."
As a head writer, mostly Pokémon. In others he works under supervision.
But I think that he's involved in why M.S. Nadesico goes from being a Comical Space Opera to a grimdark fest.
I know TV Tropes is bad but it gave me this:
Anti-Escapism Aesop: A Space Whale Aesop version of it, preaching about the evils of becoming obsessed with Anime in general (and Super Robot shows in specific), with The Jovians as the Space Whale.
That sounds like Shudo.
I only know Nadesico, I liked the tone of the series; is mostly a comedy with a somehow background plot that it's ongoing the whole series and gets a proper explanation and end without being forced.
Most of the chapters can give you a laugh, but, like all Mecha Series, drama happens, people die and such, but overall it have a light-tone.
The tone of those specific chapters are way more darker than they should be and sometimes don't even allow the plot to develop, it makes to get stale actually.
It ends with the main couple with a Ramen restaurant, the MC didn't care about being a pilot, he just wanted to live quietly.
Yet the movie takes everything away from him even before the movie starts; and presents a whole political conflict. When the movie ends, the conflict isn't solved as a whole and the MC, being before a laid-back happy-go-lucky guy, thought that almost everybody else were incompetent, and decided to solve things with its own hands; even leaving behind his wife and people he cared for.
In the things that the goverment did to him, since he was a human born in Mars and like every other Martian he had some strange abilities; they experimented with him. Coincidentally, he liked to cook and actually aimed to become a chef someday, but surprise, the experiments left him without his smell and taste senses.
>The GoShogun series and its film sequel, The Time Étranger, were both written by Takeshi Shudo and directed by Kunihiko Yuyama. The series is noted for its witty dialogue and lighthearted parody of its own genre conventions. The Time Étranger shifts away from the original genre, leaving the robot aside entirely to focus on the strong and complex heroine. It has been praised for its serious tone, psychological intensity, and handling of mature themes.
Honestly sounds a lot like their handling of Pokemon and the Pokemon movies.
Thank you Google Play Music
Why is this allowed?
You guys makes me sick
You've never seen a dormouse in your life son?
Unfortunately you're kind of stuck waiting.
There aren't other subs.
Isn't Sushi half kill because of subbing?
If she needs motivation, pic-related.
>post your face when Serena dances with Ash after the battle, and only after that.
Pretty much a lame premise. Wasn't he trying to make the 3rd movie about Ash and Co. plus TRio fighting DINOSAURS???
That premise shall work if Pokemon ends in an ASHita no Joe way though. >Everyone grew up from their childish dreams, except Ash, who's obsessed with winning at least one league. His friends try to convince him to retire from training because they find he's with a degenerative condition because of GreninjAsh. Clemont and Bonnie are the only ones who decide to support him (Serena tries to stop him but he tells her to fuck off because his dream is about to be fulfilled. She makes a change of heart and supports him when his flame of youth starts to die).
Baldios ended pretty bad though. Earth was destroyed because of an artificial global warming. The movie added more salt with [spoil]Marin being the sole survivor along with his dying greenhaired girl enemy, doomed to die from starvation in an unhabitable earth[/spoil]
Minky Momo's finale was pretty wtf, too.
Didn't know Shudo worked on Laserion though.
Sorry dude, I'm bored and waiting for Stan to play in the Aussie open. Just let me reply to him one last time:
Because it's a dance between friends.
There, I'm done.
Yes, I know this is an ironic reply to a shitpost.
Does anyone know why Tomioka didn't right many episodes in BW?
No wonder the Unova League was so crap, Tomioka didn't even write ONE episode of it and it is supposed to be the most important part of a saga, looks like they gave little crap about the league to begin with.
It shouldn't eve be a question. Eevee should have been written to like Pikachu so Ash and Serena would dance.
Why make it like Bunnelby to put Serena in a situation where she dances with Clemont?
Yet people will say this writing makes sense.
>Didn't know Shudo worked on Laserion though.
Checking wikipedia, it looks like he only wrote two episodes, though he also had some involvement with conceptualizing the show itself (one of the episodes he wrote was episode 2)
Looks alive enough.
she can't even hold his hand
True. However, what would be the incentive? Would Serena stop being beta and ask him because of her feelings? Would Millefeui push Ash/Serena into dancing with each other at the end? Or maybe Nymphia (being love Pokemon and whatnot) finally realises her trainer's affection towards Satoshi and pushes them together?
Imagine the possibilities.
>However, what would be the incentive?
Ash blind-siding everyone with his ramen that causes Serena to mega evolve into a spaghetti monster, Bonnie to go smug, Clemont to become denser, and Millefeui to lose the smug and spaghetti.
>Ash starts talking about how great Millefeui is at dancing
That's like asking longhairfag why he cares about long hair so much.
Not even for a second I though short hair was better, hopefully Serena changes her hair again before the season is over.
Yeah its pretty fucking
Because he's not her love interest? We don't need them put into situations where they can fall for each other.
Why just have Eevee like Pikachu from the start. There's no need to make it complicated.
My dick is ready to fall asleep. Good night, faggots.
a moment of silence for there will never be an evil Ash
My God, you give falseflaggers a bad name, shitposter-kun. Good.
You've bored me for now though, so leave until I have use for you again.
What do you guys think of this picture?
Why would anyone have confidence in geekchic when it isn't even a thing so it isn't possible to sink it?
>6 hours for a preview
>I'm more excited for the preview than the ep
What has shipping done to my life
yeah I can't wait for those great ClemontxSerena moments...
Also if you notice all the people who like Iris over there consider Dawn and Serena to be their least favorite. I think they don't like girly girls in general, and they're insecure that Iris is stuck inbetween the two of them.
Most of them seem to like May though.
>There will never be a battle like this with Ash and Serena
>instead they pull Domon/Rain and Naruto/Hinata with them
Either Iris or Kasumi, with Iris having the "future Champion" thing going for her.
>not being excited for Noibat shenanigans, preview of dance with Ash and Serena at the end and G Gundam references mid-battle
I should slap your shit.
I think people putting Misty as top battler have simply forgotten what Misty's battles in the anime were actually like. Even if you exclude all the battles where Psyduck pops out to get a headache, there's really not much else to choose from since Misty barely battled in the first place.
I think the only reason she originally looked good is because she nearly tied with Ash in Cerulean Gym, but that was when Ash was a rookie trainer and his freshly caught Butterfree and Pidgeotto were already wrecking Misty's top two pokemon at the time.
I'm just more excited for the preview
This reminds me of XY80 all over again
Man, just a single Amour scene in the preview will trigger Pokeshippers everywhere. It almost feels like judgement day is at hand.
God I've been waiting for this moment since AG1 aired back in 2002. 13 long years.
Oh it seems we have an anon in full damage control!
Sorry to burst your bubble, sweetheart. But this shipping is one-serie only. What did you expect? "and they lived happily ever after" bullshit? sad and pathetic
Oh well, I'm sure tumblr will enjoy to hear your delusional bullshit
Eevee isn't doing it, Serena's dancing with Clemont so Eevee won't be scared of all the people at the dance and Serena needs to use Bunnelby.
Ofcourse she's doing it for Eevee, this a turning point in the plot because it shows Serena caring more about her pokemon that about her crush.
She's maturing and becoming a better human being
>this a turning point in the plot because it shows Serena caring more about her pokemon that about her crush
She's always cared about her Pokemon. Are you pretending and posting shit or are you that blind?
Well she cares more about Eevee's well-being than dancing with Ash.
Maybe if you werent in denial and damage controll you would see it.
Seems like I hit the the nail on the head. Retard
The champion battle would be a region thing but then there's the whole world champion. I don't know if that'd even work.
Poor little anon, but this isn't your precious comfort hugbox aka Tumblr, this is 4chan, bitch. And here we have freedom of speech and freedom of dissent. If you don't like it, go.
>inb4 even more damage control
>Swanna Girl. 0/0
Nonononono. No. Bad /padt/
Swanna Girl thread.
More like something to do with Elle. Considering there are only 4 participants, and 2 happen to be people who have met Elle before, it's probably not random. Too much suspension of disbelief otherwise. Millefeui is conveniently on the opposing side too.
Holy shit, someone posted a pic from the preview in the Amour thread on serebii:
Is this real? HAPPENING?
That Serenaface looks a bit questionable.
But otherwise, holy shit. If this is true, how did the person get a hold of the preview?
To spare people from having to go into the Serebii thread.
Man, the one time where I can't tell if a pic is real or fake. It does look super real though and that pk guy is an Amourshipper from Japan...
Does anyone know what the text says? Where is Adamant?
LOL, all the Pokeshippers on tumblr thought this would be a Geekchic episode.
God I can't wait to see how Suift spins this preview. Serena blushes for Ash only and not for Clemont. My god its happening.
Is anyone here dumb enough to unironically like Edgeventures?
Its Ash. He's asking Serena to dance. You can tell she's surprised so he's the one who makes the first move.
I wouldn't be surprised if he scratches his nose a bit before asking her.
No progress has been made, no progress ever will be made.
If any of you are idiotic enough to believe amour will develop, you are very very stupid.
>shitposting 2 hours before the preview
The delusions here are pretty sad.
Please show evidence of Ash showing any form of romantic interest in Serena.
Please show evidence suggesting Serena's affection for Ash is stronger than it was at the start.
Reality check: this is an episodic show aimed at children. Absolutely nothing will happen, Serena will not be around for the 7th gen world and Ash won't care.
>shitposter going into non-stop damage control all of a sudden
Very well, the dance partners switch and this is the moment Serena gets her wish to get paired but as soon as that happens they interrupt to announce a double battle portion will happen with your current partner
They're definitely going to dance which is why they are in the battle round to begin with.
Millefeui obviously dances with James while Ash is with Serena...and they get chosen for the battle portion.
>went to bed four hours ago
>just woke up for the episode
>stale had even sitting here all that time, talking to himself
>on top of the 12+ hours he had been doing so prior to that
He needs to see a psychologist about this.
>yfw Elle picks them because she's secretly an Amourfag
>Shitposters on suicide watch
We knew this was happening, and yet somehow that made it more satisfying.
This is going to be a good couple of weeks.
We're finally getting the Ash bishounen sparkle, and if I know my animu Millefeui is going to cock block the moment by interrupting and taking Ash for herself, or this moment is happening in Serena's mind prior to choosing Clemont because of Eevee.
I can't see that being the case, it'll be a day dream of sorts where Serena thinks about what could happen at the dance at the start of the episode. Then realize that it won't work out because of Eevee.
Afterwards Millefeui will show up and Serena will sperg out that Millefeui took the oppertunity to dance with Ash while she is with Clemont do to Eevee.
We've been shown that she's an imagintive girl plenty of times. With the ghosts, and more importantly the "date" episode where she got all nervous because she thought she was on a date with Ash.
This is just the next level of her coming to terms with herself about her feelings and shit. I also wouldn't be surprised if this scene takes place after the gang has arrived at the party and were looking at the clothes/ gotten changed into them, that Serena has the fantasy.
>We've been shown that she's an imagintive girl plenty of times. With the ghosts, and more importantly the "date" episode where she got all nervous because she thought she was on a date with Ash.
They show her get nervous but not day dream, even in the gif you showed doesn't have her day dream.
>This is just the next level of her coming to terms with herself about her feelings and shit. I also wouldn't be surprised if this scene takes place after the gang has arrived at the party and were looking at the clothes/ gotten changed into them, that Serena has the fantasy.
She already decided to dance with Clemont for Eevee's sake long before even that. That scene would only work after everything's been done seeing as it's Ash extending his hand out.
So it's only one week more we have to survive through?