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Why does Gamefreak hate Delphox so much in particular?

>People disliking the design because it isn't blatant furbait like Braixen.
>Fennekin and Braixen in Pokkén, but not Delphox.
>Gimmicky Magician hidden ability while the other two kalos starters got great abilities (Bulletproof and Protean).
>Can't learn Thunderbolt, Aura Sphere, Energy Ball...wizardlike moves that most psychic types have.
>Barely better special attack than all the other fire starters, when it's a WIZARD.
>Serena still haven't got one in the anime, and probably never will thanks to contests being kawaii uguu wanks.
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Braixen is just more popular

I mean, its pretty clear why

lets wait till friday, okay?
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Delphox is a shitty third evo and Braixen is great. Same thing with Dewott.
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>>24998025

Braixen is like a cute young woman, Delphox is an old hag.
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>>24998044
Please m8 obtain better taste

Samarott is great
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Most middle evolutions are underrated. Glad this isn't the case
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Delphox's model would have looked awful and you know it.

The fur 'skirt' would either look like shit or cover up the legs completely and look unnatural.

Braixen has more of an energetic/sassy personality based on its depiction in the games as well, and it looks like they're playing off of that from the poses and screencaps on the reveal.
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>Braixen in Pokken
What a strange choice. Really unexpected to me
I still what Meinshao to be in though
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>>24998025
Psychic types who learn:
Thunderbolt/Aura Sphere/Energy Ball
>Mew
>Mewtwo

Thunderbolt/Aura Sphere
>Mew
>Mewtwo

Energy Ball/Aura Sphere
>Mew
>Mewtwo

Thunderbolt/Energy Ball is learned by 23 Psychic types, 6 of which are fully evolved, while 13 are legendaries - including Arceus.

Meanwhile, the only two fully evolved Fire types learn Energy Ball are Ninetales and Chandelute.
Magmortar is the only non-legendary to learn Thunderbolt, aside from Rotom-H.
And no Fire types at all learn Aura Sphere.
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It's about time middle evolutions are getting more respect.

Grovyle is pretty much the figurehead of mystery dungeon
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>>24998110

Why should middle evolutions deserve any respect?

If you take a way you should at least go to the end of it.
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>>24998025
>Gimmicky Magician hidden ability
It would be a lot less shit if Gems were released other than Normal Gem.
Just imagine 252SpA Delphox shooting a Fire Gem boosted STAB Fire Blast under the sun, and stealing Leftovers on top of that.
Delphox is the ideal mon for gems.
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>>24998048
Samurott is disgusting trash and it's not even up for debate
Don't reply with your shit opinion
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>>24998154
>stealing leftovers
Wow it's fucking nothing
Maybe that would've been great back in GSC
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>>24998175
It's just an example, man, calm your titties. Clearly you're not seeing the possibilities.
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>>24998025

all these implications

people dislike the design because it looks like fucking dogshit. it's hey arnold's head on a traffic cone. you can tell the design was completely phoned in since the head stays the same and just gets fennekin's hair back, and the tail even loses its orange mark.

it also loses the whole matchstick wand thing where it lights it by pulling it from its tail. now it just lazily takes it from its side. a logical progression from braixen would be a staff/witch's broom with a flame instead of bristles. instead it "just gets taller" and an uglier outfit.

>>24998164
what's wrong with it? be specific so you don't make a fool of yourself.
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>>24998025
I'll always love it. I think its a great design and its my favorite gen 6 starter.
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>>24998222
>people dislike the design because it looks like fucking dogshit. it's hey arnold's head on a traffic cone.
nice meme
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>>24998285

thanks for proving my point with your image. also its model looks even worse.
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>>24998025
The whole line is garbage, the other two just have cute to fall back on.

Ear hair is shit. Ear hair was a fucking terrible idea.
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>>24998311

it's like you never heard of a fennec fox
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>>24998222
Its wands are supposed to be up its sleeves
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>>24998309
sounds like you just have some shiiit taste
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>>24998311
>earhair
>bad
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>>24998336

sounds like you're butthurt about braixen being better. good thing my boy harada and the anime staff agree.
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>>24998373
I like both

But its subjective
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>>24998378

you're not really helping OP's point that delphox isn't furbait.
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>>24998379
That is irrelevant
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>>24998025
You forgot:
>Victini exists, a superior Fire/Psychic type in EVERY possible way who already fills EVERY possible niche Delphox can
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>>24998481
except for being legal in any battle facility or online competition :^)
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>>24998481

Victini a cute
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>>24998164
I bet you like Typhlosion more than Quilava, faggot
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>>24998025
Well Mausda said its his favourite Kalos starter so you're wrong anon
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>>24998222
Not that guy but >>24998044 here, main issue is that it switches to all-fours for no obvious reason and betrays the theme Dewott builds up. You get Dewott looking like a neat samurai theme, but Samurott is just this big fat fuck with too many arbitrary angles tacked onto his design. The shell theme is there still but it's gotten out of hand and doesn't have a solid focus. Dewott looks like he's comfortable on land or in water, but Samurott looks like he'll flounder if you put him on land. The facial hair is cool but could have been executed better. He's just a disappointment.

One of the only bad parts of Gen5, my favorite generation.
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>>24998086
my three pokemon for pokken are Reuniclus Mienshao and Mawile i dont care about anything else
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>>24998127
Who is Chansey Alex.
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>>24998655
Great taste.
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>>24998655
>>24998668
I very much respect the both of you.

Would anyone else like to see Ledian represented in some way?
Even if just support?
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Delphox is just a poor design, furry or not I don't find it very appealing.

I'm not a furry and I've never once wanted to have sex with Braixen or any other pokemon, but Braixen at least looks like a cute little witch. Delphox just looks ugly and lame. That being said I would really prefer Delphox in Pokken and I'm pissed that Braixen got in instead, I want to like Delphox, but I just can't. I wish Delphox could be retconned and redesigned, because I like Fennekin and Braixen and I feel like just a few minor tweaks could make Delphox great. As it stands it will probably remain one of the least popular starters ever, and that sucks because a Fire/Psychic fox mage could have been amazing.

And while I don't care about competitive pokemon, and I've never owned a Delphox and never will, I feel you on the gimmicky ability. That bothers me too. My best advice is to try to find a tricky, unique way to use Magician. I like to use Fake Out + Pickpocket + Fling with Shiftry personally.
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>>24998655
Mienshao's arm sleeves look terrible in 3D unfortunately
Reuniclus would be cool
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>>24998666
> Who is Chansey

A shitmon.
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>>24998481
At least Delphox is better than Zen Mode Darmanitan
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>>24998044
Could this be why they're considered a OTP?
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Delphags BTFO
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>>24998652

It switches to all four so it can run faster and ram shit. When it needs to it can stand on its hind legs and fight with its swords. You know monkeys and bears also run on fours but function on two, right? Also it can use the swords freely underwater. It does everything Dewott did and more.

I don't know what you mean by arbitrary angles. It still has a samurai theme, but shogun were known to fight on horseback, hence it fights on four and two.

Nothing wrong with its design besides its waist being a little thin, but most mons have anatomy issues.
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>>24998379
Delphox is as furbait as other 2 mons
They should just remove the entire line entirely, gen 6 won't suffer much with having only 2 starter lines
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>>24998025
Honestly the design isn't bad, it just is one of the many pokemon who got a shit 3D sprite in XY. If magician were less shit, and it had some good coverage, it would be a pretty good mon.
I'm not sure if GF will bother fixing it, though.
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>>24998025
>Why does Gamefreak hate Delphox so much in particular?

It's not that GF in particular hates it; It's that NEARLY EVERYONE ELSE does. Were you there in Oct 2 when it was leaked? Literally everyone became a Greninjafag, surprising because Fennekin was the clear favorite among everyone in terms of base stages. Frogadier bridged the gap, but Greninja completely destroyed that gap.

Up to this day, Braixen is still more popular than Delphox itself. It makes sense to give the majority what they want.
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>>24998222
I will be surprised if it doesn't get a witch broom mega evolution.
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Delphox looks super-fluffy. It would be nice to cuddle on a cold winter's day.
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Only hope that delphox has is that it has a cool mega evo
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>>24998723
FUCK OFF
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>>24999103
All I remember was tons of people saying

>Greninja is shit, jumping to Chespin/Fennekin
>Chesnaught is shit, jumping to Fennekin/Froakie
>Delphox is shit, jumping to Froakie/Chespin

Because those who hate something are always louder than those who like something because they usually have more reason to speak their minds
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>>24998044
>>24998110
Middle evo fags are truly the cancer of this franchise.

Glad at least Sceptile got to be in Pokkén.
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>>24999481

Based Chansey
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>>24998025
>>24998025
how many non legendary psychic types learn aura sphere?
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>>24998983
>it can run faster and shit

the way its legs are splayed out like a reptile's suggests the exact opposite

how fast can a turtle or iguana run compared to a horse or gazelle or giraffe?
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>>25000166
I was about to say something but then I remember Dragonairfags exist and I've to agree
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Delphox can look nice in art. The in-game model is absolutely disgusting though.
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>>25000277
Lots of them can learn Focus Blast tho.
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>>24998285
Why didn't they use that pose for the ingame model, delphox looks like shit when standing still. The pose in that concept art looks way better.
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>>25000560
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>>24998025
The twig wand should have been a staff
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They should have gone with the more logical progression making her the most blatant furbait Pokemon ever.
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What is shit about it's design though?
It looks fine to me in fact I like it, it fits it's role as a Wizard/Mage thing pretty well. It's model is shit but that a different story, I want to know why you nigs think it looks like shit.
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>>24998025
No Psychic types but Mew/Mewtwo learn Aura Sphere, but Delphox should learn at least Thunderbolt.
It can learn Thunderpunch, though.
wtf, gamefreak?
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>>25000742
tenbux on pixilate mega.

IIRC they stated they wanted it to be part fairy but decided against it. So the madmen might just do it
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>>25000737
>it's
>it's
>it's

Anyway, the proportions are one thing. They're more like those of an anatomically correct (albeit extremely skinny) human being in a costume than anything from the Pokemon universe. The ear-hair is excessive as well.
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>>25000768
>Fairy
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>>25000786
What's wrong with fairy? Greninja gets to be any type but fairy why can't delphox be a fairy.
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>>25000653
It's sad how much better this design is
Original Delphox was a disaster
>inb4 furfag
I'm neither straight or a furry
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>>24998025
Delphox is the shittiest starter. Braixen and Fennekin are still shit, but yeah.
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>>25000782
Better than "HER"
The ear hair also never bothered me, but there's no short of it, so I can understand this.
And the proportions thing has never occurred to me, and still doesn't convince me the design is shit.
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>>25000825
Fairy just doesn't fit with Delphox.
Fairy is more in tone with mysterious shit.
Delphox is a mage/wizard thing, of which use learned magic
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>>24998025
>People disliking the design because it isn't blatant furbait like Braixen
Except I genuinely think it's ugly, and I'm not a furfag. I don't even like Braixen
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I don't understand you nigs.
Delphox just looks fine, normal, nothing great, nothing shit, whenever I hear It looks like shit I look at it and nothing jumps out at me that it looks like shit.
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>>25000985
I think the main thing people get upset about is that it could've been a lot better than it is.
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>>25001011

That's what it should have been, although the old sleeves were fine. Also the branch should be a broom, not a gnarled staff.
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>>25000653
>starter
>her
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>>25001029
>Broom
>Implying a witch is better than a mage
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>>25001029
>broom
>implying it's supposed to be a witch and not an oracle like the pokedex explicitly states
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>>25000166
Yeah. I'm really grateful they decided not to do the same thing to Sceptilefags and shun him in favor of Grovyle. Though I must admit that having two Pikachus and two Mewtwos in the roster will generate a lot of salt.
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>>25000985
The in game model being garbage is the big problem imo
The design is other official art is fine, its just that model is very unappealing
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>>25001011
Well I don't care what it could have been
So it's all just shitty hype culture?
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>>25001037
Yes
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>>25000985
It looks like a triangle with a pinata for a head. It's the ugliest starter ever
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>>25001152
>It looks like a triangle with a pinata for a head. It's the ugliest starter ever
you keep saying this
are your eyes working
we all know the ingame model is garbo
but literally all the art is fantastic
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>>25001159
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>>25001183
>Anime
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>>25001159
It looks okay in one piece of official art and it looks like shit in the game and anime. Fanart is irrelevant
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>>25001183
okay lad

cherry pick the one with a shitload background foreshortening
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>>25001194
This. The official art is hard to judge since it faces such an extreme angle, but I'd still say it's pretty ugly. I was put off as soon as it was revealed.
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>>25000166
>>25001049
Grovyle wouldn't be picked in favor of Sceptile anyway. The latter can at least mega evolve while Grovyle is nothing but a downgrade(by fighting style and anatomical structure. Not aesthetics).
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>>25001207
Nigger, I just picked the one that Bulbapedia uses since it shows a clear frontal view.
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>>25001220
if you say so
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So what your saying is that people only like Braixen because they want to fuck it?
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It's because Delphox has a shitty movepool and stats and doesn't look good in 3D.
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>>25001282
It's more pleasing to look at. Between that and Delphox being awful in battle, it's only natural people will prefer Braixen.
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>>25001303
Delphox's stats aren't that bad desu
Its mostly its shit ability and movepool that kill its viability
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>>25001362
It doesn't help that Fire/Psychic is close to the worst defensive typing possible without including Ice.
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>playing pokemon competitively past gen 4
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Rate this mega phox.

fire/psy
+10 attack
+20 defence
+30 special attack
+30 special defence
+10 speed
fur coat

>>25001362
Outspeeds garchomp, that's worth something right?

>>25001378
It's just psychic.
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>>25000560
DRAGON*CON!?
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>>25001568
Didn't they stop adding points to unimportant atk stats in ORAS?
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>>25001657
Cant make it too OP, or else it'll be able to kick the ass of mega GF's husbando
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>>25001378
Or Grass.
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>>25001394
>playing gen 4

Some people would rather battle than watch load times
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>>25002026
straws

I dont play comp anymore. I enjoy spinoffs more than mainlines now.
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>>25001378
Victini does fine with it, though. Give phox some coverage, it's faster and has a higher special attack than victini anyway. Maybe give it a decent nuke. It's more support/boosting sweeper anyway.
At least it wasn't fire/fighting again
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Man, fuck everything. I still like Delphox, even if the model was garbage.

Braixen has god tier animations, though, its impossible to top that wand shit.
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>>25001323
But Braixen is much worse in battle.

Face it, you just wanna yiff.
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>>25003374
Lots if other fully evolved starters are butt-ugly compared to their prevos, but they have something else going for them.
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Most ugly fully evolved starter ever
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>>24998025
I VASTLY prefer Delphox' design over Braixen.
And I actually find Delphox pretty decent design-wise better than Samurott, at least.

I can understand dislike but I can't understand the hate. Then again, I also don't get the Guardevoir love.
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Middle evo fags are cancer
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What's everyone's problem with Delphox? It's not my favorite starter, but only because I'm not a huge fan of anthro mons or fire types. Other than that I think it's an awesome concept and design.
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I hate its facial markings the most. It's so fucking weird and annoying. The fact it's head looks like it's just barely orange and has some stupid white line around its neck looks fucking stupid.
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>>25004388
But Meganium and Samurott are worse.
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