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SAGE SUNDAYS

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With 30 minutes left in Sunday on the eastern coast and Midwest, can an entertaining and informative Sage Sundays update thread be accomplished? Find out next time on Autism Ball Z. Now a word from our sponsors

Yes, in fact, it's the moment /vp/ has been waiting for. The FIRST edition of Project VPMAGG: Generation Sage UPDATE THREAD, more amicably known as Sage Sunday. This is something we I have been wanting to do to get the vp community more involved in their titular project than the occasional "Whatever happened to Sage?" threads. The idea is for Sage Sunday to serve as a weekly update on the current condition of the project, along with answers to any questions and sharing some completed/nearly completed content.

So without further ado, a quick rundown of what was accomplished this week before content and shitposting.

-literally absolutely nothing
-A new palm tree sprite was created for tropical routes
- 4 maps are confirmed and programmable
- 3 more maps began development
- Bug fixes for Sagedown
- the continued harassment of everyone's favorite neighborhood autist
- The continued existence of some custom moves, either in their current capacity or at all, was discussed in length.
- Distros were discussed (details in thread)
- The creation and conversion into our soundfont of a ton of terrific possible Pokeman themes, among other pieces.

Look in thread for examples of content generated this week. Feel free to ask any questions you may have about the project, and please give feedback on anything showcased.
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just so you guys know, majora has some pretty sick disses

getting this out of the way
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the aforementioned trees
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>>24982888
>The continued existence of some custom moves, either in their current capacity or at all, was discussed in length.
Haven't you decided that all the gym leaders will give custom TMs? Imagine how shitty a player is going to feel when they get the first three okay-but-ultimately-mediocre TMs from the respective gyms only to get a boring-but-infinitely-more-valuable TM for Dark Pulse
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Here are the Pokeman designs we're currently narrowing down
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And these are just for fun
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>>24982912
So this is the champion then?
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>>24982925
Yup
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>>24982912
the top row ones are all identical, each one more identical than the last
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>>24982912
I like the ones with antennas. Just having a plain Pokeball as the head is doesn't work.
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>>24982910
Most of the debate with the custom TMs is just frustration with them. Some were modelled after Scald, which is pretty broken as is. Ice Rink is notorious for causing a lot of programming errors for whatever fucking reason.
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>>24982888
>FIRST edition of Project VPMAGG: Generation Sage UPDATE THREAD
What? Haven't we had like a half a dozen big official update threads along with many more unofficial ones?
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>>24982888
>eastern coast and Midwest
Aren't those different timezones?
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>>24982947
It's like an hour apart or something
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>>24982910
More or less, although I don't think every Gym had designed for it a custom move. If one fit it was added but right now the problem is that after some review, most of the moves are either unusable-tier shitters or just wonky when it comes to programming. Most of them will have an overhaul, and some of them might get removed, is the general consensus right now.
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>>24982947
Anything West of the Mississippi was a mistake and is not counted for the purpose of caring
"Midwest" is Kentucky and Tennesee here.
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>>24982937
I have the exact opposite opinion. Add shit only complicates/detracts from the fact that his head is a pokeball

>>24982940
why didn't you just make that into trick room that reduces the accuracy of contact moves for non-ice types and remove all the other shit about it activating abilities, causing crash damage or changing nature power?
An astonishingly minute number of people care about those things and would rather play a functional game
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>24982925
This person is the champ. But Pokeman as champ is the person out of costume. This design will only ever exist when you meet them during plot and such.

>>24982932
You what? Shouldn't you be getting this stuff right?
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>>24982902
Those are some damn fine palm trees

>>24982947
Yeah it's 10:43 here
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>>24982936
Look at the belts senpai

>>24982946
these are sage Sundays and the plan is to have one every sunday from now on. So, no, they haven't been done.

>>24982947
Any good parts of the midwest fall under EST
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>>24982973
>good parts of the midwest
Nice oxymoron
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>>24982973
>the plan is to have one every sunday from now on

pfffhahahaahaHHhAHAHAHHAHAAahahaa
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>tfw losing a playoff game and having your entire time zone shit on all in one day
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>>24982962
>why didn't you
wrong tense here, bud, this is an ongoing discussion
I'll bring it up though
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>>24982973
>Look at the belts senpai
You should worry about the sprites first, nothing but spritework will be seen in the actual game and I can't imagine any of those details showing up very clearly or memorably when reduced to mere pixels
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>>24982888
>actually looking like the official art style
I'm already on board
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>>24982988
If that guy is battleable in that suit, I imagine the trainer sprite would be large enough to show the belt detail
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>>24982966
Huh? I just said "Yup"?
And here is the concept that was voted in.

Outside of the costume he is a charismatic guy who rose through his own hard work. He's well liked by most and takes on a mentor-esque position for young trainers. He seeks out problems before they get bigger. He was investigating ET and originally donned the Pokéman persona because he feared reprisal and didn’t have enough evidence to prove their guilt. Acting a bit sillier to hide his true identity (and as he confesses himself “the costume just brings it out of you”). In costume he acts like a Power Ranger/Sentai. Speaking about justice, friendship, etc

If you battle him as champ in costume or not is still to be decided. We were thinking possibly having you fight him one way the first time then the subsequent times you battle E4 he would be the opposite.
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>>24982902
they look awful, just use gf's palm trees from the platinum post game area as placeholders until you make some that aren't shit

like i'm not one to just call stuff horrible freely, but those are actually terrible.

>>24982992
>not knowing about sage already
were you not on /vp/ from 2012 to early 2015
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>>24983014
fuck off Majora those are terrible too
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>>24983014
Got some critiques? Those aren't the latest versions at all so your concerns may have already been addressed.
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>>24983014
I usually just stick to mystery dungeon threads so I'm not an expert on /vp/ lore
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I'm going to be using this opportunity to dump fanart.
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>>24983014
They look pretty close to this
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>>24983053
Never mind. Damn uploading thing is broked.
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>>24982962
>>24982986
Apparently the accuracy part of Ice Rink is the worst part, so that wouldn't really solve anything
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>>24983079
make it raise evaision
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>>24982888
Redpill me on distros

>>24982902
Just use pic related, tallest palm trees in the world: Wax Palm. It's the national tree of Colombia.
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>>24983092
They wanted a thick palm tree so they could do GF style tree barriers.
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>>24983100
What if you just made them thick and tall.

Or do you guys not know what thick and tall looks like?
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>>24983108
>Or do you guys not know what thick and tall looks like?
My dick.
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>>24983022
>implying i'm majora
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>>24983092
But again, distros?
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>>24983152
Eh, majora literally said the exact same thing word for word.
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>>24983092
>>24983154
Distros is all the shit that goes on the routes: what Pokemon, the % distribution and levels, and trainer classes, locations, and teams, and then whatever fucking items and berries go on the route.
It's now on a schedule, and should be caught up with maps by the time Round 5's done.
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>>24983165
But what are the distros?
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>>24983171
"distributions"
gonna have to be more specific mate
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>>24983023
every part of them is just bad: they don't match the art style of the sprites from the demo you released in summer at all, and judging by the other shit in that screenshot, that's still th style you have; the perspective is wack, the lighiing is bad, etc

i'll give you credit that the way you can see the layers of bark is kinda cool and matches actual plam trees, and I wouldn't have thought that could be shown well, but I still think even that's not great and could probably be done better.

>>24983159
it's not that hard of an idea to come up with senpai
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>>24983178
Ok, what are the route distros you've worked on since the forest because that's all we know I think
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>>24983182
>the lighiing is bad
How?
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>>24983108
That would make them awkward to use for bottom borders, wouldn't it?
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>>24983193
If you expand the fronds to larger size it could work
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>>24983014
Reminds me of Mother 3.
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>>24982982
it's gonna happen

>>24983183
http://pastebin.com/kBU9jydL
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>>24983201
Dronia would have distros.

Fishing distros.

You guys haven't done any good rod stuff have you?
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>>24983187
i don't know, if I knew sprites or art well enough to critique that well then i'd have been making shit and I wouldn't have been left behind when you guys left.

but I can say it looks bad
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>>24983209
We did a month or two ago, but the discussion stalled.
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>>24983211
The lighting is fine, it doesn't use too many shades, has proper contrast and a consistent light source.

The texture on the trunk is a little shitty and lazily done however.

I didn't want to make these in the first place, the other trees are perfectly fine.
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>>24983222
You'll be releasing the Shaman demo and still won't have great rod and super rod distros for the early routes.

>>24983226
Did autism-major bug you to sprite it?
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>>24983211
Would you agree with me that the highlights make the tree look kinda speckly and highly contrasting?
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>>24982888
How many lesbians are on the dev team? This is very important
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>>24983236
at least one that I know of
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>>24983236
4, 6 if you count clash
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>>24982888
>- The continued existence of some custom moves, either in their current capacity or at all, was discussed in length.
For those it concerns. The main offenders are for specific reasons.
>Code quips and complexity issues
-Ice rink
-Fiesta
-Karma beam
-Catalog(?)
-Asteroid belt
-Fiesta
-Salt Crash
-Accelerator
-Team player (99% chance of being dropped)
And a prediction from me
-Mooch

>Really, really redundant or shit to use even in game.
-Ice rink
-Standoff (It's mean look with a drawback. An already niche move but worse.)

>Full retard
-Scald but steel type lol! (forge press)
-Full force

All this in addition to a handful of people not liking that customs exist at all. And the fact that even some unlisted here have been totally not touched regarding essentials.

>>24983236
Everyone is a faggot.
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>>24983236
Right now? At least 2, all time high was lik 4-5.

>>24983251
What's wrong with full forc?
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>>24983254
ebin duck, that's what's fucking wrong
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>>24983251
>Fiesta
Look at code for stealth rocks to see how to code for heals upon entering and then look to magic guard for how to set on your own side.

For Asteroid Belt, aren't you changing that to Rock Heat Wave?

>>24983254
OP Platy
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>>24983231
>Did autism-major bug you to sprite it?
Nah, the group had a big argument about route 9 about how we'd want to go about making barriers. We didn't want it to be mountainous/hilly so cliffs were out of the question, there were complaints that the palm trees were too skinny and we couldnt use them as barriers, I said they weren't meant to be barriers.
I suggested just using fucking fences because that's the entire reason they even exist but people were against it because ???

So yeah, I made these fat pieces of shit.

Majora also suggested we use pic related

Anyway, regardless, we're still not using the platinum trees. We only use placeholders if an original sprite doesn't exist period. Even if a sprite is sub par, we use it until something better is made.
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>>24983254
It turns a few moves into utterly ridiculous memes. 200 BP with no drawbacks wew.
That being said most it's issues just vanish the moment platikhao doesn't have reversal.

>>24983259
>Look at code for stealth rocks to see how to code for heals upon entering and then look to magic guard for how to set on your own side.
That would be really great if that was what made it a pain in the ass.
Fiesta is utter tripe because it consumes a layer upon being used, this is surprisingly difficult to tackle without a rewrite of hazards entirely.

>For Asteroid Belt, aren't you changing that to Rock Heat Wave?
that's asteroid shot.
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-Ice rink
-Fiesta
-Karma beam
-Catalog(?)
-Asteroid belt
-Fiesta
-Salt Crash
-Accelerator
-Team player (99% chance of being dropped)
And a prediction from me
-Mooch

literally all of these are shit
just make fiesta into aqua ring and remove the second fiesta

change salt crash to a salt-type move
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>>24983271
If it consumes on use then look at wish or aqua ring.

Combine Aqua Ring+Wish+Magic Bounced Stealth Rocks.
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>>24983251
>look up full force
>let's give a fighting-type a 200 BP STAB attack with zero drawbacks

literally how
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>>24983282
Here's how it works.

Nobunata uses fiesta twice. There are two layers. Next mon in eats one layer.

Eating one layer is giving me some shit. There is literally, l i t e r a l l y. Nothing that can be looked at for a comparison. But that's ok I've heard word that mage has it working I hope.
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>>24983292
What's supposed to happen on switch that's causing a problem?
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>>24983288
you should see it in action
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>Predators that don’t pay heed to Platypow because of its tiny size are quickly surprised by its fiery nature and its remarkably strong punches.

this is fucking stupid
why does it attack predators if they explicitly pay it no heed? why mention the far more interesting point that it's tail is a helmet instead of something painfully generic?
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>>24983288
retardation
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>>24983305
because the people who did dex entry redos were dumb dumbs
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>>24983305
Please tell me that these same people aren't writing the plot
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>>24983298
The pokemon eats 1 of the possible 3 layers of Fiesta and then heals 50% of its max HP

It draws up some bugs with rapid spin for some reason.
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>>24983288
>>24983300
>>24983306

>every pokemon with this ability has a STAB move of at least 150 BP without any drawbacks
>clear body doesn't prevent self inflicted stat drops so Diamat is a shitmon but somehow this is allowed

???
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>>24983305
you're fundamentally misunderstanding the wording behind those first few words

>>24983314
one of them is actually
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>>24983298
On a switchin, if fiesta triggers (ie: damaged) then take a layer off.
The take a layer off part is the issue here.

This does not play nice with other hazards, and you wind up with no hazard damage, no heals, all hazards removed or what have you.
Mind you this is on showdown, I have heard mage has it working in essentials which is all that really matters.
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>>24983201
What are the pokemon on the routes past the forest
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>>24983330
you're right. I looked at it again and this is the semantic value i got:


>predators ignore it because it is too small to be noticed and too small to be a substantial meal

I only thought it meant "too small to notice" before. This is worse, thanks
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>>24983344
it means predators that think it's an easy snack are surprised when it kicks their ass. Reading comprehension.
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WHERE DO I GO TO SEE MORE OF THE /VP/ GAME PROJECT?
IT LOOKS SICK

thanks boys
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>>24983264
>Majora also suggested we use pic related
those don't match your art style at all but they aren't bad as their own thing.

I agree with majora (again, I guess)
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>>24983350
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/CAPX_Wiki
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>>24983348
My interpretation is not wrong just because another interpretation exists. That just means that it is even more poorly written than i first thought and then secondly thought.
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>>24983341
route 4
cowatti
the shakesplants
larva
peppit
flowger
fortifry by rod

route 5
Aquilor
Taomarin
Coltergeist
Alpint
Psybex

>>24983344
hahahahaha man good luck passing 10th grade
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>>24983361
>fortifry by rod
>no good rod distros
god
dammit

one job
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>>24983362
old rod friendiddliedoo
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>>24982922
>>24982912

desu Cherish and Premier ball versions I think visually are more appealing and special than the vanilla Pokeball, especially for a champion.
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>>24983367
You have no good rod distros.
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>>24983361
>words mean what i say they do
>defending a boring and poorly written dex entry instead of admitting it's shit and spending the 20 seconds it would take to change it

ok
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>>24982922
he better do kuuga style posing when the fight begins
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>>24982902
Yeah, i'm gonna agree with majorautism and the anon, that's pretty wonky
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why does the sloth pokemon get swift swim
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>>24983400
Why is there a debate? They are shit trees, this is even self admitted
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>>24983277
what the fuck is the point of salt crash
it looks like a shit move
is the increased rate of it triggering an effect is supposed to be a convoluted reference to salt being good luck or is it just a bad attempt to make a move unique despite it being worthless?
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>>24983411
the latter
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>>24983422
why is it that the only good custom moves are the ones that are just re-typed versions of pre-existing moves like Cheap Shot and Jet Strike?
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>>24983361
Why is a horsey in the mountains
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When are you guys buffing Bullotus' SpA?
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>>24983435
Coltergeist and Fantasmare are oddly not plains mons, they're mountainous
Look at Fantasmare's dex entry.
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>>24983439
>Change dex entry
>Changes location
Well this is horseshit
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>>24983436
>gets swords dance, waterfall, power whip, ice punch for some reason, belly drum, meme burst, leech seed, earthquake and gyro ball
>clearly supposed to be physical

???
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Happy birthday Leda
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Fuck off Leda
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>>24982888
What's the current status of Sagedown anyway? How playable is it? Me and some friends have been legitimately wanting to try it out.
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>>24983463
http://viipii.
crabdance.com/

Ongoing
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>>24983353
What? Those are completely awful.
You guys are weird.
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>>24983361
What's the hold up for the rest of the routes?

Why is it taking so long to do route pokemon distributions?
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>>24983439
Why did you fuck up all of the dex entries?
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>>24983555
nobody really wants to make a game despite everyone wanting a game to be made
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>>24983555
A complete and utter clusterfuck of management of routes 4 and 5 that killed and rekilled any kind of discussion for a period of time.
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>>24983582
Who can we blame
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>>24983591
majora. It's not actually his fault, but why not
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>>24983602
But whose fault is it
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>>24983602
this
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>>24983603
can't you read?
it's majora's fault
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>>24983518
Both are quality a bad fit art style wise, but >>24982902 is a good 1 or 2 points worse in terms of quality

just use fences and water and a normal palm tree here or there, or have that one guy whose amazing at everything who does your art make >>24982902 but not shit.

hell, just cheat by having it be like 2 or 3 palms bunched together like pic reelated
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>>24983625
>Both are quality a bad fit art style wise, but >>24982902 is a good 1 or 2 points worse in terms of quality
I'm not even saying they're good but what the fuck man. I can't even.

>captcha has me select palm trees
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>Sage has sweet ass palmtrees

My favorite kind of tree! Looks like im gonna have to step up my palm game to keep up with you guys.

Game is looking great, keep up the good work!
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>>24983570
I wasn't around for it
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>Cascotta and its evolution line were an alternative design for the Water starter Pokémon

What? No they're not. I didn't design them to be a starter.

Also who gave my pangolin ears? Pangolins don't gots ears.
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>>24983708
Honestly we don't care at this point, it is gonna stay like it is now.
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>>24983716
>>24983708
I'd be down with the ears as a gender difference or just culling them, I think most of us agree adding them as a minor change was a mistake
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>>24983636
>palmtree
>favorite tree

Pleb detected.
Blue spruce master race
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>3Tops: the game
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>>24983708
>pangolin with ears
that's an artichoke dog your fucking moron
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>>24982912
First top row and last middle row are best
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>>24983453
Thanks
>>24983459
Fuck off Fag

Everyone that blames the pokedex writers, don't. Blame everyone. They needed a super majority vote to get locked in.
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>>24983777
I think you'll find that you are talking out of your bottom
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>>24983708
>>24983777
while I also think the ears ar dumb, I don't think most people would be in favor of us changing designs again not that that stopped us culling yellow alpint.

I do think making a gender difference (alongside maybe kobersus's foot fur) would be cool though, we only have 6 lines with them.

>>24983895
>>24983777
Yeah, whil I don't think it's popular it's not unanimously disliked.
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>>24983964
>culling yellow alpint
oh thank christ
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>>24982888
Love ya sage, keep workin hard, you'll always have a follower in me
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>>24983964
Ears down looks like Linoon rip off, should keep those ears perky.

Regardless, can't wait for beta
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>>24984191
There's thankfully not too much left until the new one, I think.
It's down to the "distros" stuff and 5 more maps - Route 9, Route 10, Andante Bay, Starry Cave, and the Hobo Dojo. Other than that, it's really just dialogue, but all that stuff is usually sequential and pretty time consuming.
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>>24984208
Don't forget. We're going to have to do all the building interiors too. Dronia is going to be your least favourite city come release. The system is much more streamlined for interiors though. No need for 2 meeting s with them
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>>24983288
Stop abusing literally, it has done nothing to you.
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>>24983964
>culling yellow alpint
Thank fuck.
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>>24984600
now if only we could cull green forusk
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Will you be able to catch the other 2 starters late on as rare encounter?
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>>24983435
it's a mountain horsey

>>24983436
never probably because it's not a special mon

>>24983463
pretty much done honestly. All mons besides Diamat for some reason have updated stats and movepools and Bigro has worked out most of the kinks. pls come and help us test teams, it gets lonely.

>>24983555
For a long time routes and distros were one big Clusterfuck™. David stepped up for distros and Swim stepped up for mapping and now we're having regularly scheduled meetings and things are coming along much better than they ever did.

>>24983570
The dex entries were /shit/ before we redid them. If you were involved in the old dex entries and you're mad they got changed, sorry. But they were awful. It took us a good three months to overhaul them and during that period we took opinions and suggestions from every member still involved in the project and ran supermajority surveys to confirm them. We did it by the books and honestly 95% of them are great. Write a letter to gamefreak about how bad theirs are and see how far you get.

>>24983591
you know who

>>24983964
go home majora

>>24984688
err, no? Probably not? That's something that'll be discussed eventually I'm sure. Personally, as far as being able to fill the dex I would rather work in a "see the picture in a book" kind of deal where just interacting with something filled their dex slots. But it's not out of the realm of possibility for post-game, I'm sure.
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>>24984688
>>24984764
How else are you going to get a full dex if you can't catch them?
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>>24985074
> Personally, as far as being able to fill the dex I would rather work in a "see the picture in a book" kind of deal where just interacting with something filled their dex slots. But it's not out of the realm of possibility for post-game, I'm sure.
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>>24985134
That's not how it works though, you have to catch them all
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>>24984688
yes, the other 2 starters being available postgame is something that's been planned for a long time. excuse smokey, he's a newfag
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>>24985148
>newfag

it's just something no one had an answer to until just now apparently?
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>>24985167
No, it's something that's been said many times
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>>24985173
Sorry, must have missed the day we decided that and then decided not to write it down anywhere or remember it, only to be passed down by oral tradition like the Ballad of Beowulf through the meadhalls of 8th century England
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>>24985445
>must have missed the day
literally years
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>>24982888
>The creation and conversion into our soundfont of a ton of terrific possible Pokeman themes, among other pieces.
Post please! The music is honestly one of the things I'm most interested in with this game.
Also, when are you guys gonna convert the golem battle themes to the B/W soundfont? Those three are fucking amazing.
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>>24982922
rule 34 please
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>>24985751
I'd imagine they'd get converted to the B/W soundfont as they get closer to actually coding the part of the game that has the golem battles.
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>>24985751
It'll happen eventually. Still can't get the midi so they'll have to be made from scratch
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>>24982902
>everyone saying these trees are shit
I think they look great. Not sure if the type of tree is the best choice, but the quality of the tile itself is great. Just look at >>24983055.

>>24982912
Anything other than a plain pokeball for a mask would suck. If you want to add stuff, you might as well give him an actual sentai-esque mask.

Also the standard belt looks best, though I think it looks better when it isn't white. Having it in the blue/grey with the multi-coloured boots like the first three of the middle row would be perfect.

>>24982922
>Premier Ball
This would be an amazing costume for the actual champion battle and ONLY the chapion battle. That, or it's an easter egg for when you challenge him for the tenth time.

>>24983964
I like both versions, desu.
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>>24985445
It wasn't 'decided'. But it's a pretty long-held stance that I also assumed everyone would agree on. Probably a survey held now would demonstrate the same.
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>>24986069
desu
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>>24986102
Really? Why alter what I typed? Can't believe I haven't noticed until now. DESU. My feathers are ruffled.
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>>24986069
>This would be an amazing costume for the actual champion battle
i've got bad news for you anon...
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>>24986125
;_;
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Hey, all! Pl4ntman here, also known as Iwilldevouryourkittens. I'm a musicfag for the project.

Here are some of my contribooshuns:

https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/pokemon-sage-champion-battle

https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/theme-of-pokeman-1

https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/pokemon-sage-final-approach

Thought I'd check in and see everyone's thoughts on the project so far.
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>>24986125
Wait, Pokéman IS the champion. So what's the bad news, anon?
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>>24986189
Pokeman is the champion
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>>24986189
the champion is Pokeman Unmasked - no costume
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>>24986227
Why does the champ need a costume?
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>>24986234
Covert operations.
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>>24986234
see
>>24983004
>He was investigating ET and originally donned the Pokéman persona because he feared reprisal and didn’t have enough evidence to prove their guilt.
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>>24986227
>Pokéman sans costume
That's like Bruce Wayne fighting crime.

Still, I vote for the tenth rematch to be held with Premierball Pokéman.
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>>24986245
>>24986241
If even the champ fears reprisal why the fuck is the player fighting against the evil team?

Or is the champ that big of a wuss?
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>>24986254
The champ is more worried about the effect him getting outed would have on the rest of the League, imo. He's being cautious. Also, any excuse to wear a costume is a good one.
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>>24986264
>worried about being outed
>cautious
>worried about the effect would have on the league
>looking for an excuse to wear a costume
So he's gay
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>>24986248
It's more like whatever Bruce Wayne's job is, vs beating up people as Batman.

>select all images with palm trees
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>>24986281
Yes, pokeman is gay for wearing a costume.
His real name is Van Darkholme.
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>>24986281
well yeah, but don't worry, we won't mention it in the game

it'll be subtle
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>>24986282
But like, people knew why Bruce Wayne wasn't fighting crime

What will people say when the champ doesnt do anything?
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>>24986323
Probably nothing, since the champions of practically every region don't do squat.
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>>24986248
Love your idea anon. Do you think you could come up with some more example costume unlocks or let me develop it more to show people how the content would work?
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>>24986359
>Who is Cynthia
>Who is Alder
>Who is Steven
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>>24986378
I can easily come up with costume unlock ideas, but most would proably be too much hassle or too unnecessary (like changing his team or location). The premierball, I think, would work best as a single little 'secret' because, after all, who outside of /vp/ battles the champion 10+ times on the same file?
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>>24986386
>Cynthia
Gives you like 4 things, and maybe does something in the Distortion World.
>Alder
Actually does things.
>Steven
Joins you in one (two in oras) fight.

You didn't even include Lance in the list, and he does more than Cynthia, what with the whole Lake of Rage and Team Rocket HQ bit.

...I suppose that is more than I thought before, huh.
Doesn't mean the champion can't be doing other things publicly, alongside his moonlighting.
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>>24986439
Well the problem that came up with a lot of the writers for Pokeman was that him repappearing in costume in the postgame caused a minor continuity error with the plot they had in mind for him. I don't think one costume Easter egg will be enough to convince them it's worth overlooking, but with enough of them the content might outweigh the criticism.
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>>24986489
>Plot problems
>writers already having plot continuity problems
Sage Plot confirmed for fucked
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>>24986489
>>24986439
>>24986505
Any plot where after beating him and becoming champ, he doesn't become pokeman full time to fight crime instead of just to investigate the et is shiit.
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>>24986505
The autism of a few never speaks for the many

The guys we have on plot have come up with some really good stuff. But temper your expectations if you want, that way you'll come out pleasantly surprised.
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>>24986567
You support majora so your taste is in question here anon.

Tell me, what are your thoughts on Mesoamerica?
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>>24986181
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>>24986616
https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/battle-vs-champion-pokeman

wow I forgot the fucking link
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>>24986598
You're either tagging the wrong post or misreading mine bub
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>>24986675
What are your thoughtssssssssss
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>>24983964
>>24983964
Could totally be a gender difference of Male and Female.
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>>24986630
Yeah, he (you?) did a great job. Adding in the pokeball SFX was a genius decision.
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>>24986706
Thanks. Most of the composition was on Pl4ntm4n so you should give him your love. I just edited it
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>>24986735
Aah, I see. Props to him, then.
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>>24986675
What are your thoughts on mesoamerica
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>>24986489
Wait, there's an intricate plot for Pokéman during the postgame? And one that would cause problems for a harmless Premierball secret for the tenth rematch, no less? I'm aghast.

Would you mind sharing the story then, so I can work a way around it? I remember some hostility towards quirky and unnecessary ideas in the past, but this one is so harmless and - dare I say - obvious that is simply HAS to happen.
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>>24986797
By the way, I'm literally only thinking of rematches in the sense of re-challenging the Elite Four. Not stumbling over him somewhere post-game and challenging him. Surely THAT can't possibly interfere with post-game, unless he simply isn't there to battle you all the time. Which would be irrelevant, because the suggestion merely talks about the tenth rematch against Pokéman, regardless of when they can be fought.
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>>24986797
Dude nobody but carson gets autisticly worked up over easter eggs, it'll be fine if it's accepted.
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>>24986797
>>24986812
The people who objected to the idea were convinced otherwise so if you have any ideas for unlocking costumes feel free to make a post!
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>>24987144
So Premierball Easteregg is a thing? Amazing!

I don't think I know enough about Pokéman to actually play around with ideas constructively. We'll see.
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>>24986630
>>24986181
Bretty gud, but the buildup is too long, it only really gets going around 0:38. It doesn't really get me pumped up like a champion battle theme should. Someone in a previous sage thread said something about incorporating the game intro theme, what happened to that?
That little pokeman theme reprise in the middle is pretty rad though.
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>>24987201
Completely agree. There is too much buildup in this song, with not enough payoff. The pokeman reprise is the only thing that is reminiscent of a champion theme, since it's the only high energy part of the song.

The song should've been composed around the pokeman theme, using it as a chorus, and while the intro to the song is nice, it should've been only a few seconds max, just enough to cover the animations of the trainer sprite appearing and the first pokemon being sent out.
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>>24987257
>just enough to cover the animations of the trainer sprite appearing and the first pokemon being sent out.
THIS. A lot of games in general overlook stuff like this, but it's a detail that really adds a lot to the player experience. Check how long this usually takes, make the intro that long so the actual battle theme gets going the moment the player gains control. I can really appreciate when a game shows this level of detail, and it can make a good boss fight a great one.
To use non-pokemon examples, the final boss of Okami is a stellar example, as are a lot of the climactic boss fights in Undertale.
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he better be able to do something like that with his helmet
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>>24987343
This reminds me, do you guys already have an out-of-costume design, or is that still being worked on?
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>>24987343
holy fuck that's perfect
>>24987371
being worked on as we speak, actually. A couple designs for the face were thrown around today
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only the autists are left on this project

the age of pokeman has begun
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>>24987393
Butthurt Dunky detected
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>>24987427
>he's white
I see what you did there
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>>24987427
looking great anon
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>>24987413
dunky is very autistic

it's disturbing that you couldn't tell
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>>24987427
good stuff
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>>24987530
Love your style. Very cartoon-y.
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>>24983467
it doesn't werk for me.
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>>24987499
well of course he is. why would you let niggers into the game?
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>>24987575
try putting a # after the slash
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>>24982888

played the demo and i loved how it's coming so far, with just a small adjustment i'd like to see, auto-running shoes
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>>24987604
Imagine. The B button is a toggle, not a hold to run, or you could just put a tiny bit of effort in.
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>>24987587
I know it's bait but
>implying there's only black and white
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>>24987566
thanks anon! allow me to shamelessly share another doodle I made today

penglacier is in dire need of a new sugi, btw
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>>24982888
Any sick new fan art?
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>>24987740
Better stats too.
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>>24982902
Not very pokemony IMO
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>>24987811
>tfw it still doesn't have ice slick
>tfw it will be stuck with shitty defensive abilities forever
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>>24987177
>So Premierball Easteregg is a thing? Amazing!
Maybe.
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>>24982956
Do ?/! give out 1 or 2 tm's?
maybe ?'s 'college bro' BF gives one as the player exits the gym?
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>>24987854
Do Tate and Liza give one or two tms? There's your answer
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>>24987886
but tate and liza's gym doesn't have two types
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>>24983964
>I don't think most people would be in favor of us changing designs again
I thought the whole point of leaving /vp/ was so you guys could ignore the majority
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>>24984764
>err, no? Probably not?
Faggot, next you're gonna tell me there's no post game island resort where players can battle rejected leader concepts
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>>24986234
Bounty hunting
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>>24987926
that'll actually probably be at coda peak
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>>24987926
if that anon meant "can you catch the other two starters in late game" then yeah, probably not. Post-game is a whole other thing. That's almost, bar some serious autism, a definite thing. How it'll be implemented is still up for discussion though.
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>>24987371
>do you guys already have an out-of-costume design,
Pic related
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It isn't sunday anymore pack this shit up
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>>24987886
Tate/Liza are a completely different concept faggot.
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>>24987923
>the majority wanted yellow aplint
You're right, thank fuck we can ignore those retards.
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>>24987965
>>24987923
Most people are still pretty strict on wanting to respect survey results especially if it's not something they don't dislike.
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>>24987982
How do you guys even know what the majority is anymore? You fucking left.
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>>24987740
Sweet!

>>24987834
;_;
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>>24987982
>most people
I see.
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>>24982922
The Pokeball in Ultra's hand hasn't been colored in.
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>>24986386
>>24986477
you also forgot Blue and Ghetsis

the only champion to do literally nothing is diantha
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>>24987599
still doesn't werk.
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>>24988389
turn off adblocker, gives some people shit. There are no ads though.
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>>24987413
nah, that's not dunky
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>>24987854
They should.

Most rational people suggested something along the lines of calm mind + brick break/bulk up.

Only hipsters like Carson who have a boner for custom moves want one TM.
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So how bad is the witchhunt for every new person thinking that they're really Dunky trying to come back?
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>>24988665
calm mind and bulk up would make sense since they're the only psi/fi moves that are clones of eachother.
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>>24988681
we managed to chase one guy out after a two hour conversation making up conspiracy theories about how he was dunky/a dunky plant
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>>24988681
fuck off majoraavidracoterrawishfishfunky
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>>24988684
That's one thing that could work but brick break also works because calm mind is introspective like ? and brick break is more assertive like !.

>>24988686
How does that even happen
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>>24988681
>Implying the elitist skype circlejerk will let new people in.
They fucking stole the game from us and will never give it back even though it'll fester and die with them. /vp/ was the fucking lifeblood of this project but now it'll just join the ranks of shitty fangames that die before they reach any stage of real development.
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>>24988695
we add new people literally all the time

unless this is b8 in which case 4/10 made me respond
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>>24988695
We let in someone new like a few days ago.

And then a few weeks before that (he left after the first day as expected)
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>>24988695
>/vp/ was the fucking lifeblood
Having been in both the skype and the thread, you're wrong. The lifeblood went to skype.
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>>24988695
It's offboard, it's not closed
You can literally just ask in these threads at any point and someone will get you added in.
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>>24988686
>a dunky plant
>dunkywunkr plant
Is he a fern, a coniferous plant, or a deciduous plant?
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>>24988719
spergious
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>>24988730
You know he doesn't actually have autism or aspergers right
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>>24988755
hi dunky
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>>24988757
hey bby
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>>24988757
fuck off majoraavidracoterrawishfishfdunky
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>>24988449
still doesn't werk, gets stuck at "loading client"
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>>24988841
Quit your browser and go back with adblock off
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>>24983305
why not change this to "Attackers who underestimate it are overwhelmed by its intense fighting spirit and surprisingly powerful punches."

It's shorter and less confusing
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>>24988908
because that's really boring and sounds like shit sorry
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What's the progress on this game?
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I just rediscovered this project after a couple years of not keeping up with it, and I'd really love to contribute some art, though I've only got about a week of freetime ahead of me. If the most efficient way to do that would be Skype, my skype is Smearg.
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>>24989142
Read the thread.
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>>24989220
>I'd love to contribute some art
Do you mean fanart?
Because you don't need to be in the skype to do that, just post it here.
Also if you mean stuff like sprites/sugis isn't it a bit pointless to only join for a week?
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>>24989247
who gives a fuck imma add em anyways lol
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>>24989254
found leda

how was your birthday
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>>24989365
Guess again.

It was quite relaxing without sage business
I've been making a prototype from route 9. Tell me how mcuh you hate it
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>>24989247
how much fucking art do you need when this entire game is sprites
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Have the "gaps" in between the Legato Crossroads Poke Mart and its connecting houses been removed?
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>>24989540
>Have the "gaps" in between the Legato Crossroads Poke Mart and its connecting houses been removed?
Swim says yes
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> Sage has been in development for almost 3 years
It's been such a good run (and a shit-show). These threads used to be such a good time. I remember building the wiki and making maps so long ago.
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>>24989620
Can't wait to see it. That thing's been rubbing my autism the wrong way for a long time.
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>>24989627
Development has been going MUCH better these past few weeks. People have their qualms but things are getting done much faster.
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>>24989462
its shit start over
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>all these namefags/friends I don't know
am I that old or that new?

>>24989665
As someone who was vehemently opposed to moving the project off /vp/ even since the skype days, I can at least appreciate that the desired effect has been achieved.
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>>24989996
Fuck off Kyrox.
I'm kidding, but was I right about who you are?
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>>24990044
No. Never really had a name though, just a style of argumentation some people recognised.
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