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I know people probably ask this a lot, but which pokemon does /vp/ think came first. Mew or Arceus?

Mew is believed to be the ancestor fr all pokemon. It can also learn every TM & HM while Arceus can't and it contains the DNA of every pokemon. Arceus has myths that say it created the pokemon universe. Has Gamefreak stated anything to support either one as the very first pokemon?
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>>24975765
Rhydon was the first Pokemon to roam the lands.
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>arceus creates world
>get to life creation step
"shit man, whatever. I'll just make one that makes all the other ones for me"
>create mew
>???
>profit
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>>24975778
So Arcues makes a pokemon that can learn every move even though it can't do it itself? That makes no sense to me. If Arceus created a pokemon that could learn every move then Arecus should be able to learn every move. That's why I think Mew came first. Also Arceus dna isn't found in every pokemon like Mew's is.
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Arceus = God

Pokemon = People

First Pokemon Mew = First people on earth

Not sure how this is difficult to understand.
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I'm just gonna headcanon since gf won't ever address it, but I'd say Arceus was first, created all of existence, but Mew was the template used for other Pokemon.
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>>24975808
Because Arceus didn't spread it's DNA. It just created Mew, which did spread it's DNA.

Also, Arceus thought it would be anti thematic to be able to use certain moves. So he keeps the cool ones.

And Mew doesn't get every move. Only Smeargle can have any of them, and even then, it can't learn Chatter.
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>>24975808
Mew can't learn every move, it can learn every TM. There's a big difference, especially because TMs are a human invention.
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>>24975831
It can learn any TM & HM which Arceus is unable to do...
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>>24975830
>Acreus doesn't want to be able to learn every TM & HM
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>>24975839
Why would he learn some gay-ass moves like False Swipe (Arceus always hits to kill) Struggle Bug (Arceus never struggles), Acrobatics (Only faggots do acrobatics) or Ally Switch (Arceus doesn't need allies) when you can have some dope-ass Final Judgements to completely obliterate little faggots?
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>>24975833
That's literally what I said
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Arceus created Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, which created the world.

Mew created all of its successors, and came from all of its predecessors, which is why it has the DNA of every Pokemon.
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>>24975831
It theoretically can learn every move, you just have no means to teach it the others.
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>>24975808
Well, the pokemon Arceus is probably just an avatar anyway, so whatever.
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I think Mew only created every pokemon that's native to Earth. Clefables, Elgyems, Deoxys, etc, were all created elsewhere.
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Didn't Ho-oh create the legendaries?
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>>24977141
No. It did bring the Johto Beast trio back to life after a fire, if I recall correctly.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say it.

Arceus was a mistake.
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>>24975830
Actually, Arceus didn't create Mew at all.
Arceus only created a total of 6 Pokémon before falling into a Eternal sleep.
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>>24975809
Actually, Mew is from Space.
It arrived on Earth, about 4.1 or 4.25 billion years ago.
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Is it really that hard?

1. Arceus
2. Creation Trio (created by Arceus)
3. Weather Trio / Tao Trio / Yggdrasil Trio
4. Lake Guardians (created by Arceus)
5. Mew
6. All other Pokemon (created by Mew and a few by humans - e.g. Mewtwo, Porygon, Castform, Genesect)
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>>24975765
1. Arceus come from a Pokémon Egg.
That likely come from a Pre-existing Parallel Universe.

2. Arceus can't be the "frist Pokémon" since it come from a Egg and seemly empty Universe.
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>>24978132
1. Incorrect information.
Mew is from Space.

2. Arceus come from a Pokémon Egg.
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>>24978140
The egg came first.
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>>24978149
I know. The Egg comes from a Pre-existing Parallel Universe.
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>>24978132
Mew is from Space. Not Earth.
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>>24978144
>Mew is from space
And Arceus created the universe, dumbass.

>Arceus hatched from a Pokemon egg
Never confirmed. What would even make Arceus a Pokemon besides the ability to learn moves? He may very well be something else entirely that just goes into a Poke Ball just because of gameplay.
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Mew came before the Weather Trio.
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>>24978170
1. It's confirm by the Pokédex.
Arceus come from a Egg. Arceus created a Universe. You know there's more than one right?

2. Mew could have came from a Pre-existing Parallel Universe.


3. multiverse (or meta-universe) is the a series of finite or infinite possible universes, including the universe we live in. Together, these universes comprise everything that exists: the entirety of space, time, matter, energy, and the physical laws and constants that describe them.
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>>24978170
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>>24978038

This. The whole "created this, or that" kinda sucks.
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>>24978194
Nah. It's existence make " Pokémon Science Fantasy".
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>>24978184
>Arceus come from an egg
And there's more that one fucking kind of egg in existence.

>multiverse hinted
It was literally fucking addressed in BW in one of the houses in Opelucid City.
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>>24978238
Pokémon Multiverse was hinted in BW.
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>>24978238
Cyrus could have created His own Pokémon Universe. He probably will successful in the Pokémon Pearl and Diamond remake.
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Arceus was the first Pokemon, Mew is the genetic ancestor of all Pokemon.

Mew was created by Arceus. None of these statements are contradictory. This is pretty simple shit, it's the story in a kids' game.
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>>24978307
1. Arceus didn't create Mew.
That's pure fanon.

2. Pokémon is not kid game. It's video game for Everyone.
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>>24978320
Where did Mew come from then? Arceus is said (in-game) to have created the entire universe that the game takes place in.
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>>24978307
There are other parallel universes and Alternative timelines.
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>>24978322
in the ancient mythology of one single region

>ancient mythology = old story
not factual scientific evidence of life on uranus
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>>24978322
Mew could have came from a Pre-existing Parallel Universe with different laws of physics.
There is more than one Pokémon Universe.
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>>24978144
> Mew from space
Proof, dude. Present it.
> Arceus come from a Pokémon Egg.
...and?
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>>24978341
The Pokédex is the evidence.
Mew is the ancestor of every single Pokémon. Mew cannot be from Earth or the Pokémon Universe that Arceus created. Plus, Pokémon Multiverse was hinted in BW and ORAS.
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>>24978341
There are other Pokémon Universes.
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>>24978349
>The Pokédex is the evidence.
The pokedex is full of bullshit.
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>>24978360
Nonsense. The Pokédex is correct.
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>>24978121
In which game is said that it came from the space?
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>>24978248
Are you fucking stupid? It was straight up confirmed, not "hinted".
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>>24978429
Oh ok.
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>>24978396
Just follow the Pokédex information.
1. Mew is the ancestor of every single Pokémon.

2. Pokémon is "Science Fantasy".
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>>24978440
There's nothing in Mew dex that says that it came from the space, the dex just says that it was in the "South America".
Fuck off.
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>>24978479
This.
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>>24978479
I meant. Follow future "Pokédex Entries".
Wait for 7th generation of Pokémon.
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>>24978491
Wait for future generations of Pokémon.
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>>24978492
>>24978495
>Follow future "Pokédex Entries"
>Wait for 7th generation of Pokémon
lmao share some of this weed dude
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>>24978504
I'm just saying. Since, You are ignorance about Pokémon.
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>>24978479
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>>24978329
except you can literally meet arceus and watch it create life out of nothing
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>>24978519
a cave drawing of mew is evidence that it came from space?
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>>24978523
Mew is from Space.
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>>24978523
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>>24978519
What a weird promo tcg card has to do with the fact that mew came from the space?
There's nothing in the card that says it, too. At this point is just your personal headcanon.
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>>24978520
It only create Eggs of the Creation Trio.
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>>24978537
Mew is from Space.
Why can't You see that. It's the ancestor of Pokémon.
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>>24978543
Meh, you're just a troll trying to straw man.
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>>24978548
You are ignorance about Pokémon.
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>>24978548
very very ignorance about Pokémon.
1. Mew is from Space.
2. There are more than one Mew.
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Fun fact: Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon. Due to this fact, and the number of extraterrestrial Pokémon that have been discovered, it is possible that Mew inhabit other areas of the universe, and it is equally possible that they originate from a world other than Earth.
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Is this the birth of a new meme?
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>poke universe created with a big bang
>powerfull pokes about
>mankind creates myths
Pokecreationists are children
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>>24978576
Possibly.
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>>24978580
Actually, It's "Arceusism".
However. Arceus did in fact, created a Pokémon Universe but there were pre-existing Universes before that.
Unknown to the People of the Sinnoh (region).
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>>24978594
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>>24975765
It's actually Rhydon
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>>24975765

Arceus is a God. Arceus created Pokemon before he created himself. Sort of like how God in the bible made people before he put himself as Jesus on Earth.
So Arceus created Pokemon and threw Mew into the world and a few generations later he made a Pokemon version of himself.
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>>24978520
>>24978540
We aren't even certain that it creates them, the presence of Arceus as the eggs manifest could be pure coincidence. Prove me wrong.
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>>24978685
Wrong. Arceus didn't create Mew.
Arceus created 6 Pokémon only.
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>>24978094
Gen 4 raped the setting

I want to die
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>>24978693
You need Arceus for the event happen, stop trying to make something pretty objective a weird theory.
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>>24978693
Arceus created The Creation Trio and the Spirits of the Lakes.
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>>24978703
Arceus created a Pokémon Universe.
But is the first Pokémon.
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>>24978718
It is not the first Pokémon.
Arceus come from a Egg.
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Zinnia says " Her People knew of the Existence of other Pokémon Universes from Generations to Generation.

Zinnia confirm the Existence of Pokémon Multiverse.

So. Arceus can't be the first Pokémon, since there other pre-existing Universes.
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>84 posts
>28 ips
Gee, I wonder who's behind this samefagging
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>>24975808
>So Arcues makes a pokemon that can learn every move even though it can't do it itself? That makes no sense to me
you can't play basket ball for shit, you have a child that becomes a professional basketball player

you now have an example of a successor able to do something the predecessor could not
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>>24978771
A drunk brazillian who hasnt slept in 6 days and is probably beaten daily by his wife and may or may not be loaded up with drugs that arent legal in the US, just judging by how he types
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The implication in gen 4 is that intelligent life just started popping up when the lake trio came into existence. Maybe they created Mew. That would explain why they're so damn similar.
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>>24979253
kek

>>24979255
Wait, no. Let me spread my autism.

You Are Ignorance. Mew created all Pokemon. Mew is from Space. The Lake Trio is not from Space, they were created by Arceus.

Did I do well enough /b/ros?
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