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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq4oyIhA_2LYdG9IeFBfbEpHWmNTSTVsY3BvakFpa1E&usp=sheets_web#gid=0

Current FAQ. Generally the simplest questions have answers in here, so check it out.
http://pastebin.com/TpptMfNa

Upcoming games list:
http://pastebin.com/aXeFXjPa
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Henshin edition.
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>CH shit in the OP

These are dark times indeed
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>>78913246
to be fair it did get a sequel.

First game looks fun but I am worried since it's NISA.

Not because of the dialogue but because of any bugs.
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Someone remind me how to take screenshots with the PS3. Please?
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>>78913246
What game is this? I haven't followed JRPGs for about a year.
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>Disgaea 5 MC is male

Female MC supporters BTFO
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>>78915382
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song for PS2
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>>78915591
Assumed it was a 3DS game, either way, thankyou.
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>Muzet episode 1
How did he let that scientist research her?
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>>78915089
You don't.
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>>78915089
Buy a capture card.
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>>78915089
Press the PS button and start at the same time
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>>78915919
>>78915983
Someone said they managed to do it. Says that Xillia 2 has a screenshot mode but I'm sure he actually meant some kind of function in the PS3 menu.

>>78916201
I'll try that later. And places like Imgur are compatible with the PS3's web browser for easy uploading, right?
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It it useful to horde weapons and armor in FFX or should I just sell the junk ones?
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I have 50 bucks to spend, should i take Tales of Xillia, Resonance of Fate, or should i start on the Atelier saga?
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How could you hate based Compile Heart?
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>>78918310
Go with Xillia 2 or Rorona+
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>>78907473
Yeah, I saw that it was quite problematic to get the best ending so I'm playing with it for the characters, though most of the times the game forces me to pick whatever the fuck they want anyway.
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>>78918445
kuso = shit
ge = ge
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>>78920135
shitge? I don't get it.
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>>78918445
None of their games that I've tried were good.
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>Falcom’s new Ys game for PlayStation 4 and PS Vita is currently 30 percent complete, this week’s Dengeki PlayStation reveals.

>The game’s story is expected to take place just before Ys Seven, at some point between Ys V: Lost Kefin, Kingdom of Sand and Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim.

>The setting is the “Goethe Sea,” an archipelago of South Gria. As such, there is a strong sense of the sea in the game’s overall image.

>New elements and systems will also be added. And characters from previous Ys games will appear, as well.

Damn...
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>>78921913
Dogi?!!? Falcom, plz.
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>>78921913
>between Kefin and Napishtim
>in the sea
>characters from previous ys games

Terra will be a playable character, calling it now.
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In Xillia 2, how do people play as casters like Rowen, Milla, Muzet or Elize? It seems to me that you can't really get a good power combo going because of the long cast times...
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Am I the only one to have likeD KH:ReCOM the most on PS2 of the KH2 PS2 titles?
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>2014
>Still no The WORLD online
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>>78924514
I have never understood how anyone enjoys KH.
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>>78924607
>Dio makes an online game
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>>78924836
Acronym fetishists apparently
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Which Dragon Quest would be good to start with?
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>>78912431
Why are these generals so ded
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>>78924212
pls respond
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>>78927834
Because we actually play video games.
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>>78927834
If there's no news or shitposting then this thread is very slow, just the occasional person asking a dumb question.
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>Disgaea 5 for PS4
I don't want to have to buy a whole new console just so I can play more Disgaea.
It'll be for PS3 too, r-right?
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>>78930916
No.
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>>78930916
It'll probably come to Vita after a year or two.
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>>78931221
>>78931917
Goddamn it.
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So TiTS Steam version menu doesn't change dynamically like the PSP version?
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>>78928271
pls respond
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>>78921913
Thank fucking god. That at least explains the lack of Dogi in the trailer.

Hoping for Terra playable.

I hope the actual Ys 8 brings back the recurring characters.
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>>78921913
>characters from previous games

Terra confirmed.

No Geis confirmed.

Dogi maybe? The games usually have two blunt characters anyway, one for fists and one for hammer. Would seem odd for the game to include two token jrpg bara characters though. Ys Seven did do that for more than half the game I guess.
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http://strawpoll.me/2479326

Decide my game of the day. jarpig genral.
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>Hmm. I wonder if the sound of my voice brightens your day… I bet it does!

Nova, pls
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shopto.net are getting a bunch of pre-order items for Ar nosurge in Europe since we got screwed on the LE. Soundtrack, shirts and cards while stocks last. They ship internationally and it includes the bonus DLC crap.
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>>78937619
Ys it is! So far this one hasn't felt too amazing to me but I admit I love the music. Hoping that it picks up after this segment.
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So, how is Blood of Bahamut?
Seeing that the translation finally finished.
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Just started Zwei!!, the dialogue in it is pretty amusing. Pipiro is great.
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>>78924212
I dunno, I can't ever play as casters much either since enemies like to come after the player controlled character more. Unless its a slow moving boss or blah blah blah Tidal Wave.
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anyone has a link to the site with the ciel nosurge english playthrough? want to read before ar nosurge but i cant find anywhere
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>>78944502
http://www.unit03.net/view/Ciel_nosurge/Summary
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Holy shit I'm having terrible luck at poker in xillia.
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>PoPoLoCrois Harvest Moon announced for 3DS

I can only imagine how comfy this will be.
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Since it is a SEGA game, what are the chances we'll get a localization? Could XSEED or another publisher do it?
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>>78915591
Can I get some opinions on this game? I never tried it but it looks neat.
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>>78946218
Looks like Shining just became Tales. Blah
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>>78946218
>Sega game
>not Sonic

It's 0.
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>>78946218
>Sega
Yeah, never happening.
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>>78946558
It's Sonic and Miku now. Nothing else.
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>>78945208
Yeah, it's rigged I think.
Took me quite a while to double Royal Flash+ until the end with Silver and Gold Dice.
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>>78946218
Looks like a Tales clone anyway. Just play Tales.
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>>78946218
>Shining

Last Shining game we got was back in the early PS2 days, if I'm not mistaken.
It's dead in the west, man.
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How do you guys stand playing a game with an 80 hour main story anyway? I mean I can see 30-40 but 80?
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>>78947148
I like reading.
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This is a male JRPG character.
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>>78947148
over a longer period of time. It's like playing two 40 hours games
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>>78947148
I can really get into the world of the game.

I played a game and its direct sequel back to back, took me over 230 hours to complete them, and most of the time was spent reading dialogue.
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>>78947301
>short shorts

Sounds plausible to me.
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>>78947371
>It's like playing two 40 hours games
With the same story and battle system though. Doesn't it get tiring?
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>>78947482
only if you don't enjoy them, which 40 hours is too long then anyway
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>>78946218
>Sega

It's dead in the water as far as localization goes. never ever.
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>>78946558
>>78946613
>>78946965
>>78947618
Couldn't another team do it? Or SEGA doesn't export their games like that?
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>>78947609
JRPGs tend to be shit until the 70% mark or so though so you have no choice but to go through it to reach that point
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>>78947794
No. The only nip games we'll get localized from sega are Sonic games and Fatlus.
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>>78947794
>>78948014

[obligatory "go learn Japanese already" post]
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>>78947794
Sega won't let anyone touch their games.
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>>78947301
Didn't know Tony drew traps.
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>>78947910

Your face tends to be shit until the 70% mark.
And then the remaining 30% is shit, as well.
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>>78948169
I don't have time for that in addition to errything else going on in my life. I barely have time for gaming and leisure as it is.
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>>78947301
Would make him my wife
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>>78948391
I'm sure you'll have enough other localised games to keep you going then.
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>>78948391

Unless you're working 12 hour days 6 days per week or something crazy like that (in which case, fix that shit), you have time.

It's just a question of whether you're willing to allot at least few hours per day, a few days per week to Japanese.
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>>78948605
>You will never cum deep inside his boy pussy
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>>78948763
Right now i'm possibly getting evicted and might have to put most of my shit in storage and move into a trailer for a few months to find a new house to buy.

So i've also been looking for a new place to live in addition to work.
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>>78947301
>voiced by miyuki sawashiro

god why
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>>78949007

In other words, it's not a problem right this instant?

And if it does happen, this should only take a few weeks to resolve, less if you're spending almost every moment not at work on it.

There's no reason why you can't get a small start while this is going on, either.

But given that you seem to be concerned with finding excuses than finding time to learn Japanese, you probably won't succeed.
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>>78950025
House is going up for sale next week. So i'd rather be prepared considering where I am is a really booming real estate market and people will buy this shitty house for what he's asking for it.

I'm prone to anxiety and stress so this has been hanging on my mind a lot. But if it's just an excuse c'est la vie. I'd prefer to not worry about my housing situation and study a second language at the same time.
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JRPG monsters just can't match real world ones
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>>78946218
Chance on this being good?
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New Ys looks like a PS2 game.
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>>78952817
>sega
none
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This is why Shadow Hearts died.
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>>78952894
It's made by Media.Vision, they make good games.
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>>78952850
probably because it's a vita game
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>>78952850
I really want to see their faces already.
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>>78952850
Ys is dead, killed by the retarded sony audience.
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>>78952850
>orange hair
>cutlass sword

Uh...
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>>78953847
But Celceta didnt even have any cute girls
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>>78953847
Don't you get sick of this gimmick?
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>>78952850
>faggot adol from celceta
Confirmed for shit already.
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>>78953964
u wot
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>>78953964
What's your disability?
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>>78954238
Blue board is sfw
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>>78952850
Yeah man remember when Falcom games had GOOD graphics?
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Is posting broken again?
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>>78953847
Oh, this faggot is still around spouting the same bait over and over?
The last time I visited jrpgg was about 4 months ago and he was doing the exact same thing.
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>>78955079
/jrpg/ is a flat circle
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>>78955210
ur moms a rekt circle
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I'm glad that at least the new Dogi replacement doesn't seem to look like a massive faggot unlike Celcetas replacement.

I'm going to miss all the awesome monk power moves though.

>inb4 he has the ugliest face ever

Also whats up with the uniforms?
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>>78955079
sony killed his mother
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>>78955761
>Celcetas replacement

Eh, yeah. And Duren was such a lovable jackass in Dawn of Ys, too.
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Why do they insist on using the shitty party system

It's like they are actively trying to kill the series
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>>78956462
Because tales loving sony audience likes it. Fucking tasteless faggots.
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BURN MY BREAD
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http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/09/02/ps4-exclusive-disgaea-5s-first-teaser-trailer-is-all-about-revenge-wont-be-cross-gen-with-ps3/

>disgaea team is no more
>probably gonna be a shitty game
>not even cross gen

Fug this.
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>>78961028
Get with the times, gramps
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>>78961028
Have they confirmed 3D chibi models yet and reaffirmed the death of 2D sprites?
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>>78961028
I'd be annoyed if I hadn't already written of NIS.
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>>78952850
Because most of the JRPG devs can't into 3D modelling.
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>>78961397
3D chibi, thank fuck.

no need for games that look like they belong on and SNES ;)
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There is a lot of fun to be had with the Xillia 2 NPC skins.
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Was Matsu too dumb to figure out the job extension quest?
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Does FFXII IZJS have boards that correspond to each character's original boards, or are they all completely new?

I'm anal about playing games as they were originally released before experimenting on subsequent playthroughs.
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>>78965915

Completely new
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I finally started plaing FF 13. Hope is not a main party member right? I don't have to play with him much longer, right? This fucking kid is pissing me off
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>>78967482

He is, and he gets worse before he gets better.
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>>78967482
No, he's permanent
He's a good character
deal with it
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>>78968137
>He's a good character
No.
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>>78967482
Nope, you keep him forever and he only gets worse than he is now. Even in subsequent games.
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/x32bdz252mkjd85/MK_Complete_Collection.zip

from /m/, with love
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So...about that Xillia 2 guide. Got it and entered the code on Prima's site. Got the eGuide, but where the hell is the theme that's supposed to come with it? Didn't get an email or any further instruction.
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Whoa, this game looks kind of good
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>>78970824
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/x32bdz252mkjd85/MK_Complete_Collection.zip
MK?
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>>78972361
Disregard this post, it was in my account settings. Still, the guide is surprisingly detailed.
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>>78972982
Masoukinshin
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>>78972863
Luminous Arc 3 was good.

2 and 1 weren't too terrible.

Any game where I can romance a big cast of girls and actually get an ending with the one I choose can't be too bad.
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>>78967482
Stop playing right now.
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>>78973808
>Any game where I can romance a big cast of girls and actually get an ending with the one I choose can't be too bad.

Just a second...preparing a list.
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>beyond hyped for Ar nosurge even though I've only played AT1
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>>78975429
>Hyped for Ar no surge even though I've never touched one of those games in my entire life.
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>>78975429
Why would you be hyped for a sequel to a game you haven't played?

I can't quite understand that.
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>>78975783
Because he's a shitafag and he's happy to get any game.
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>>78975429
>>78975606
pls make sure to read the summary linked here >>78944912 before playing Ar so you aren't back here a month from now saying "I can't believe I was hyped for Ar nosurge, the story and characters didn't make any sense!"
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>>78973454
Oh, that makes sense.
Too bad they won't get rid of that weird cg thing they have going on.
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>tfw when you're not into cute JRPGs
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>>78976218
Okay? Why did you feel the need to post that?
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>>78976218
>tfw you are
so many games
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>>78921913
>>New elements and systems will also be added. And characters from previous Ys games will appear, as well.

I want Karna to come back
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>>78975429
>>78975606
>Unbelievably hyped for Ar nosurge after playing AT 1/2/3 and reading the Ciel nosurge summaries
I guess people get excited over things differently. Though reading the summaries without playing Ar Tonelico is sufficient.
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Xillia 2 reminds me why Rutee was my favorite
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>>78977320
Where the hell do I find these items they want in the darkness dungeon anyway? Do I have to use Leia and steal them?
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>Xillia 2
>can't do the postgame due to no 8 hearts

fuck, does it keep on NG+
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F-fuck you Nova ;_;

Does picking this option lead to anything else? Or is this just another option that doesn't matter and you just lose some easy relationship points?
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>>78977320
How many cameos are there in Xillia 2? I don't remember too many in the first Xillia
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>>78967482
No. Every character except Sazh and Fang are god awful. Feel free to skip every cutscene involving other characters for the sake of your sanity.
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>>78980808
>Fang
>not boring as fuck
>Sazh
>implying people don't just like him because he's black

Fail.
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>>78980808
>Feel free to skip the whole game

Fix'd
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>>78981263
I like Sazh because he isn't some melodramatic shit like most of the cast. He is a decently written character reacting relatively believably to crazy shit.
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>>78979775
The other option gives you buddy points with Rowen and Leia.

>>78977824
So get people up to 8 hearts. Its not hard.
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>>78981263

>becoming this much of an edgy faggot

Fail.
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>>78981506
>I like Sazh because he isn't some melodramatic shit

wrong
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>>78981641
That's all?
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>>78981918
I think so.
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>>78981641
It's not easy once you've gone through the story and used all of the friendship potions they give you.
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>>78981775
Fang was pretty boring, but Sazh was a perfectly likable character.
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>>78982136
Did you pay off the debt? You get tons of pots from.

Did you play poker? You can straight up buy them infinitely from that.
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>>78982039
Ah, okay. Thanks, anon. I hope you get to grill her later.
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>>78982217
>Did you play poker? You can straight up buy them infinitely from that.

Oh I forgot about that. Well this makes shit easier.
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>>78982307
Don't worry. She suffers as much as everyone else.
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>>78982438
Good, good, that's great to hear.
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Man, I forgot how bullshit GU Vol 1's story gets. Haseo is supposed to be an incredibly high-level player in terms of skill, but all of that gets completely thrown out the window just because the plot needs him to abuse Skeith in the arena.

And Alkaid just called him a cheater even though she somehow just pulled an awakening attack completely out of her ass (it was even during my own Beast Awakening), which everyone conveniently ignores.

Also, did weapon switching through skill trigger get added in Vol 2, or do I unlock it later in 1?
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>>78983112
You get switching once you get Haseo's second form. Which I think is only in 2? I don't actually remember, but that was my favorite mechanic in that game.
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>>78981641
>So get people up to 8 hearts. Its not hard.

I have but I apparently picked the wrong options a lot

My heart levels:
Jude/Muzet/Elise - 6
Mila/Alvin/Gaius - 7
Rowen - 4
Leia - 8

and I can't seem to get good at poker to get chips to buy the potions
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>>78984252
Its not really about gitting gud. You just use gold dice, double down until you are around 40k plus then quit. If you don't make a decent amount per dice, then reload your save. Quick and easy. You can get more gold dice from doing contracts.
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>>78985842
>You can get more gold dice from doing contracts.

all I have are generic contracts and most of the EX Monsters kill me
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>>78986061
Then dunno what to say. If you can't handle poker, can't do the EX dungeon for money and dice, and can't pay off anymore debt for pots, you will either have to New game+ or grind affinity in battles.
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>>78986351
>you will either have to New game+

that was my next idea. Just trying to get as many titles as I can before I make the jump

>all the ally command trophies new require 450 uses
WHY?
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>>78986596
Still less grindy about trophies than the first game.
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>>78987167
really? The other game you just neeed 150 (or was it 200 uses)

plus there is a 200 hit combo trophy
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>>78987226
200 hit combos aren't that hard to do in ToX2.
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>>78987338
my problem is that either everything dies or breaks out of the combo for no reason or gets knocked to the ground where the hits don't get registered
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>>78987631
Yeah. You would need to use the minimum damage skill. But that makes it easy.
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>>78947301
I thought shotas were dead in JRPGs.


He's an antagonist right? And they haven't shown the last character up top.
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>mfw I finally finish TitS

Winter 2019 can't come soon enough.
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>>78987754
*2024
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Is it bad that CH games sold me on a PS4?
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>>78988185
yes
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>>78988185
No
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>>78988185
maybe
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>>78987754

Also,

>mfw some nerd said I wasn't doing well on BP in a previous thread

Who's laughing now, fucko? Almost 100% without even using a guide.
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>Xillia 2

hold the fuck on, I wished for save Elle but I still got the "get rid of the fractured dimensions" ending
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>>78988928
Thats the normal ending. The fractured dimsensions are always destroyed unless you get the bad end
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>>78973808
Is luminous arc 3 translated?
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>>78989489
but the ending cutscene wasn't different

I heard you get a different ending cutscene for the other option.
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>>78988185
Yes.
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>>78989589
Yeah, choosing to save Elle is the normal end, choosing to destroy the fractured dimensions gives the true end.
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>>78988185
There's a good Compile game?
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>>78989681
I thought it was the other way around. Animated scene I saw had Luger meeting the woman who would be Elle's mom

nothing about Old Rollo or anything like that
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>>78988185
I want Quintet but I don't want to get a PS4 before Black Friday deals. I guess I'll be buying it without a way to play it.
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>>78989827
I had actually forgot about Quintet. I was mostly talking about Neptunia VII and Fairy Fencer F's sequel.
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>>78989791
Yes, that scene is the normal end. The other scene with old Rollo is the true end.
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>>78990165
then how the fuck did I not get the true end?
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>>78990369
Let me put it this way, if you chose the left option for the wish you get the normal end, if you chose the right option you get the true end.

Left is save Elle, Right is destroy the dimensions
If you choose to save Elle, Elle refuses and still wishes for the dimensions to be destroyed, and then she disappears. After, Ludger meets the woman who will be Elle's mom.

If you choose to destroy the dimensions, you can also choose to sacrifice yourself to save Elle. Elle then grows up with Rollo and keeps in touch with the rest of the party.
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>>78990773
Oh, I see what happened.

I picked "destroy all dimensions" and then I scarified Elle
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>>78990917
Ahh okay. There you go then.
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>>78990773

It still felt really stupid though. I was choosing to save Elle, and Origin didn't grant that wish because we didn't both agree to it. Then Elle wishes herself away and Origin grants it without a word from Ludger
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>>78973808
>Luminous Arc 1
>not terrible
Do you people play these games exclusively for the waifus? Because it must suck to play a game where you like the character design but almost every character has no depth and the story is absolute shit.
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>>78991057
Luminous Arc came out way before waifus was even a "thing".
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http://gematsu.com/2014/09/square-enix-announces-tgs-2014-lineup

>Rise of Mana (PS Vita) – trailer

Holy FUCK
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>>78991663
Kill yourself, please.
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>>78991913
It's a fucking smartphone game,dude
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>>78990773

I sacrificed Elle, and would make the same decision again every time. Elle is cool and all, but Ludger deserves to be happy. That Elle is just a fake anyway, I'd rather keep Ludger alive, so he can go and make the real one.
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>>78991913
It's a shitty android game dude.
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>>78992017
Stop acting like a 13 year old girl or go away please.

>>78989775
The first Neptunia, yes.
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>>78992147
my nigga. I thought killing Ludger off was fucking dumb.
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>>78992289
>The first Neptunia, yes.
I hope you mean Re;Birth. I haven't played Re;Birth, so I can't vouch for it's shittiness but I've played the first Neptunia and it was garbage.
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Are this relic items worth something, or should I just keep discarding them?
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>>78991663
I cannot fathom how anybody can defend the plot of Luminous Arc.

It was downright awful from the very beginning. From the forced romance down to the shitty way they meet each other, terrible characters, horrendous plot twists that come out of nowhere, and terrible story overall. The only thing that kept me playing that game was the actually kind of cool tatics battle system, but holy shit I could not stomach another second of that story.

I didn't play the second game because of it, I don't expect it to be any better.
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>>78993546
>Spats

Geez, even Milla wears pantsu.
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>>78993645
>Implying spats are bad
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>>78993838
Boring, unsexy, and make your ass smell bad and feel bad.
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>>78992147
What the fuck is wrong with you?!
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>>78994030
lolis are bad
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so should I just buy the ps3 version of ar nosurge or wait for vita version localized?
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>>78994176
Both
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>>78993645
>>78993838
I'm surprised they actually look like something in this game. Couldn't make heads or tails of them before.

>>78994073
SPOILER TAGS!! Use them!! Believe it or not some of us are taking our time with this game.
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>>78994338
Dude I just replied to that guy aksing what's wrong with someone else. I just wanted to say lolis are bad
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>>78993991
I'm okay with Elize's smelly ass.
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>>78994425
You're not the same asshat as >>78992147 then? Then to him, see >>78994338. Unless you wanted to ruin the game for me.
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>>78993645
But they aren't spats, it's just black paint. I would be happier if they were actually spats.
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>>78946428
Its the perfect game and endless
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>tfw you get like 5 straight 8-10s on high and low and get them all right
>then a 3 pops up and you think its all over
>card flips to show another 3
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>rarely play jrpgs
>download smt:nocturne on a whim

what the fuck man gimme games like this. dis atmosphere.
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>>78997657
Digital Devil Saga
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>>78997657

Like almost every other SMT game.
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What are some good action JRPGs?

I've already played Ys, Monster Hunter and Dark Souls games.

What are some other JRPGS where you have realtime action-based gameplay with dodging and shit as opposed to turn-based combat like in Persona or Final Fantasy?
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>>78997845
>>78997874
fanx. any other jrpgs that arent super weeb moe shit? i kinda liked tales of graces f and ni no kuni but i feel like the tales games are fairly samey garbage nowadays.
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>>78998064
Graces is one of the weaker Tales games. Most of the other ones have a more solid plot and characters.
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>>78998050

Xenoblade
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>>78998050

Witch and the Hundred Knight, though I'm not sure it really counts as a role playing game.

Nier, definitely. Drakengard 3 if you liked Nier, though it also feels less RPG than straight up action game.

Star Ocean series (preferably the original version of 2, but to each their own).

.Hack series (G.U. for the better gameplay, though I haven't gone through the original quadrilogy)

Valhalla Knights series

Kingdom Herps series

Infinite Undiscovery (if you have a 360 of all things)

Eternal Sonata

Ragnarok Odyssey games? Not sure of their quality.
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>http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/02/disgaea-5-will-volume-game-series/

>Disgaea 5’s story will have the theme of “revenge” and will also have more volume than previous Disgaea games. There will be new systems as well.

>The heroine, named Seraphine, is a demon lord of the “Gorgeous Underworld,” and is the well-brought-up daughter of an upper-class family.

>There’s also Usalia, who is the demon lord of some place called “Rabbit Rabbit World,” and has been affected by some curse that makes her go violent unless she eats curry.
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>>78998050

Time and Eternity if you love cliches and low budget games (and can get it really cheap)
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What's the perfect jrpg for autist?
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>>78999386
Rest in peace.
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Fie is such a slut
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I'm on chapter 11 in Xillia 2 and they had the talk with Milla under the assumption she's going to have to kick the bucket for the prime Milla to return. I already know she's going to have to go, so should I try to max fake Milla's affinity? Do you miss out on anything if you don't?
>>
Rolling

0 - FFXII
1-3 - Xenoblade
4-6 - RF Frontier
7-9 - Neptunia
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>>78995348
I know that feeling all too well.
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>>79000008
I still haven't preordered II because I can't decide if the measly microfiber cloth from the Falcom store is worth it.
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>>78999386
Female MC? Hot.

>>78999731
Last Remnant.
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>>79001124
Why?
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>>78999250
>Valhalla Knights series
>Good

You might have fooled that anon but I won't fall for your ruse Anon.

>>78999731
Pic Related, or Nightmare of Druaga.

There's quite a few but you must truly be borderline autist to enjoy them.
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>>79001167
why what
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>>78999386
>has been affected by some curse that makes her go violent unless she eats curry.

Is this sort of thing common in Disgaea games? It just seems so silly
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>>79001065
I preordered the Ebten edition for the tapestry

though personally I'm disappointed that Falcom themselves are too poor to include Nendoroids in their limited editions.

I want a Nendoroid Millium and Duvali
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>>79001297
The point of disgaea is not taking itself serious at all. This is pretty tame compared to most of the excuses for their antics. The problem is that it's a more comedy focused game now trying to be serious (not sure if a ruse though) while still keeping the comedic aspects.

>>79001124
Yeah, but I believe they'll be deuteragonist and tritagonist there.
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>>78924212
It's hard. The only Tales game where it's easy to play a "caster" is Graces F. Pascal is fun as shit.
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>>78992147
Also the elle grows up to dress like a slut.
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>>78924212
Milla is easy. She can use her don't hold down the button artes and instant cast those altered artes. She later gets a skill that shortens the cast time of spells the longer your combo is, just like the graces combat.
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>>79007618
As well as a skill that allows you to cast while in the air; a skill that lets you start casting, move, then continue the cast, and a few more.
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>>79001065

>????
>Rikai recognizes it as The Legend of Heroes (video game series)

They know their audience.
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Why does Ar nosurge have to be so sexy?
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Will you ever buy another NISA game?
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Should I get Tactics Ogre or Vagrant Story? Which is a better game?
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P3P or Fes?
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>>79008078

Considering that my Japanese comprehension is increasing at a pretty fast rate, I probably won't have a reason to.


>>79008267

Persona 4
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>>79008196
Both are the better game.

If you prefer SRPGs get TO, if you want a unique title get Vagrant Story.

Vagrant Story has also the absolute best villain ever wrote by Matsuno and one of the best villains of Jrpgs in general.

TO is one of the best SRPGs ever, with great story and characters, lots of contents and a great gameplay.
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>>79008429
You're making it even harder to you, goddamn it. Guess I'll just get both.
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>>79008429

>TO
>great story and characters

Not really.

If anything, the characters and story were overly simple.

You're there for the gameplay.
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>>79008493
If I must add something more, Ashley is pretty fucking badass, Denam is okay, but Ashley is MD Geist Tier.

And Vagrant Story is one of the few games I would give a 10/10.

>>79008662
You don't need a Finnegan's Wake to make a good novel.
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>>79008775

Of course not, but the presence of political drama doesn't automatically make it good, either.

TO's problem is that the characters seemed to exist to push the plot forward, and the plot itself was pretty basic. The writing felt very rudimentary and bare-bones.
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>>79009060
>TO's problem is that the characters seemed to exist to push the plot forward
You realize that characters are meant to do this, right? This isn't a very detrimental aspect.
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>>79007986
It'd have no redeeming values if it wasn't.
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>NIS America pushed Natural Doctrine, a tactical RPG developed by Kadokawa Games, back one week from September 30 to October 3. Interestingly, Natural Doctrine now has the same amount of delays in the West as it did in Japan.

NIIIIIISSSSSSSSAAAAAA
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>>79009060
>TO's problem is that the characters seemed to exist to push the plot forward

I don't see what's the problem, most of the western literature until recent times used that mindset.

>the plot itself was pretty basic.

What part of the plot you're talking about? The liberation of Valeria, the Dark Knights' plan or the Chaos Gates? Because all of those are intertwined really well and are connected excellently to MoTBQ and to a certain extent TKoL.

I really don't see how they're supposed to be bad.
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>>79009265

No, characters should exist as people within their universe first. This in turn makes it more meaningful on several levels when the plot happens to them (or when they initiate it).

TO's characters didn't feel like people. They felt like plot devices.


>>79009418

It's been a while, and I honestly detached myself from the plot pretty early, so I don't remember it well, but I remember it being a generic mix of JRPG and political intrigue tropes. Corrupt leader, dark power, etc. And it jumped from point to point with a cast that seemed to exist to make it do just that. Even when it diverged a bit, i.e. by having the non-character MC slaughter civilians, it just lazily went through the motions of having the events happen.
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>>79009940
>TO's characters didn't feel like people. They felt like plot devices.

What? Are you telling me that numbers in a program or letters in a page can somehow be the same as real people? Denam gets great character development, same with most of the other main characters, not to mention some parts which are not even related to the main plot like Nybeth's or Azelstan's which exist for the sake of those very characters and little else.

>it just lazily went through the motions of having the events happen.

What does that even mean? Most of the strong parts of the story are driven by the characters' decisions and personality, the entire Dark Knights' parts and interaction with the "main plot" are driven by Lancelot and his intuitions and feelings, same with characters like Leonard or Nybeth.
Any plot will need to be either character or event driven to proceed, and TO isn't any different.
Even the choices you make actually have an impact on character interaction and story progression, what else do you want?
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Why does SMT have to be so silly sometimes? It's one of the major turn offs I have with the series
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>>79010960
Because Japan is silly?
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>>79011009
But it's serious sometimes. I like it when it's serious
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>>79011082
But again, Japan is silly, and very inconsistent.
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http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/02/shin-megami-tensei-iv-delayed-october-europe/

Does anyone care at this point? Europe has been waiting for this game for it seems like 20 years
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>>79011171
I care about RF4 ;_;
>>
I understand now why JRPGs had to die. They were too big a risk, not just for the studio but for the player-base as well. No one wants to sink 40 hours into a game only to find out there is no pay off and the end game is awful. There was no trust left with the few major JRPG devs left after Square died and SE started putting out stuff that turned people off. After Konami made their first bad Suikoden, after BoF became...Something Else. After Sakaguchi ran his name through the mud with Blue Dragon. After Triace ruined what tiny bit of good was there in Star Ocean.
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Hey fellas what are some JRPGs where you can create or completely customize(looks) your character?

I'm playing through Fire Emblem Awakening where you make an avatar, and you make an avatar in those White Knight Chronicle games. I kind of like it.
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>>79012565
Dank Souls and Dragon's Dogma but Im not sure those are the kind of game you're thinking of
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>>79012458
Sakaguchi ran his name through the mud with Spirits Within.

Blue Dragon, with all its faults and generic-ness was an okay game.

Hiring Toriyama for the designs was the worst fucking idea though.

>>79012565
Phantasy Star Portable games
Frontier Gate
Cladun
Lord of Apocalypse
Dark Souls
Dragon's Dogma
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>>79012753
>>79012708
We will never play Dragon's Dogma for the first time again
;_;
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>>78999731
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>>78998050
Nayuta no Kiseki.
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Can you change the character you walk around the map with in Suikoden 2? I thought you could but guess not.
>>
>>78998050
Knights in the Nightmare sorta counts too I guess?
>>
Does xseeddude still show up here?
I just want to congratulate her because every single game I've been playing lately happens to be a Xseed game and they happen to be getting updates.
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>>79017386
xseeddude is kill
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>>79017924
>go read about it all
oh no
I hope she's okay
>>
So is this supposed to be Sega's Tales?
Even the boxart looks like a Tales game.
Any chance of this getting localized?
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>>79019480
I'm an idiot.
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>>79019480
>Any chance of this getting localized?

We've already been through this, anon. Try reading the thread.

I'll give you the conclusion though: probably not.
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>>79019825
How can such a professional looking game not get localized? It looks rather high production value. This is something that can be enjoyed in the east or the west
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>>79020183
How can new Yakuza not get localized?
It's Sega, don't bother trying to make sense of their actions.
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>>79019590
I thought the main chara was going to be a dragon?
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>>79020183
Haven't you noticed yet? It is just the beginning of a massive plan for Japan to rise to power.

They have been letting games be localised to have people interested in them, then leave the superior ones unlocalised so that people feel tempted to learn moon just to play them. And with that they slowly expand their language across the world.

Just give up and prepare for our future overlords by learning moon now.
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>>79020183
>professional looking game

You haven't played the last Shining games, have you?
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>>79021243
Xbox 360.
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>>79021243
I'd say Not Jrpg related
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>>79021135
Aww yeah look at that professional shit, just ready to burst out and hand you its business card.
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>>79021243
I like Sony's controllers because they're symmetrical, but they really should make them a little larger.
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>>79000173
They share affinity.
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>>79021243
>no Saturn
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>>79021243
DS3 and Gamecube are my favorites.
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>>79025205
>liking duelshit 3
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>>79029132
I have no problems with it.
Only autists can't adjust to different controllers and spend hours arguing about them on the internet.
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>>79008307
>Considering that my Japanese comprehension is increasing at a pretty fast rate
Tell me your secrets. I'm stuck with reps for the foreseeable future.
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>>79031801
Actually playing/reading things in Jap.

Using nukige along with a text hooker was a godsend for me.

Or you can try games that use simple language, Tales of Phantasia PSP was my first untranslated JRPG and it wasn't too hard.
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So whos meme-er, Tinkerino or muh Secret
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Why isn't there more brown girls in JRPGs?
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>>79032618
Nobody likes subhumans
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>>78983112
I'm actually replaying G.U., JUST got his "final" form in Vol. 2.

You get the skill trigger switching in Vol. 2 when you get his form that has the scythe
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>>79032196
>Using nukige along with a text hooker was a godsend for me.
Once upon a time, I had the hours per day to do this. Even managed to do pretty well like you are until higher priorities slapped me upside the head. Now I forgot most of it and only have enough time for reps. Only the most basic particles are memorized now. Sucks considering I have close to 90GB of VNs waiting to be read unassisted.
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>>79033031
I like them when they are cute girls.
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>>79033534
Then you should be hanged alongside them you dirty faggot
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>>79033871
/pol/ pls
>>
Should I keep leveling these characters, or are these classes shit? Don't want to waste resources.
At chapter 3.
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>>79037034
Keep leveling Laharl, Etna your red mask and the healer.
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>>79035697
>Nigger-lover can't even spell full words
>>
Does anyone know where Nova is to pay off the last 100 gald?
>>
>>79038031
Never mind, apparently you can only pay it off post game.
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>>79038353
You grinded enough money to pay it off BEFORE post game?
>>
Do the characters in FF3 have specific stats that they are better at than the rest of the party or do they all have the same stats aside from hp?

Just curious since in ff5, heroes of light and bd they did have specific stats they were better at even though the party could be molded as you please.

Also how do stats work in this game exactly? Is it like BD where your stats change in accordance to your level and job level? In other words, the jobs growth value doesn't actually factor into the characters growth in stats.
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>>79038783
I played a lot of poker.
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His constant spamming of the Ferguson happenings were getting annoying, but this is the stupidest thing I've seen from him.

He's been completely brainwashed, makes me feel sorry for the english Kiseki bros. I'd be disgusted with myself if I had to buy anything he's worked on. Be grateful you have Tom checking on him so he doesn't go full politically correct on the translation

Not even towel bath lolis were this retarded.
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>>79040358
Jesus man. I would stopped once I had enough friendship pots.
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>>79040403
>Game with no advertising that nobody in the west heard of sold because my name (which has nothing to do with my company name that's displayed on the Steam page) sounds white and not because it's a good game, with a good localization
Maybe it's actually some super next level modesty that we just don't understand.

Oh, who am I kidding, he's just fucking insane.
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>>79040962
"Coverage" does not mean "sales".
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>>79040962
>>79041126
He just released a quirky japanese game when steam was pretty much devoid of them, It was obvious the weeaboos were going to eat that up. Then the normalfags realized it was actually a fun game by word of mouth and constant thread spamming, and jumped on it.

His name, his person, the colour of his skin had absolutely nothing to do with Recettear's success. But the guy has gone bonkers with all that white guilt shit he keeps eating
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>>79040403
So not only is he full of himself, he's a fucking idiot to boot.
>>
So I'm playing Ys Celceta finally and i have a question.

Is it worth it to walk around and talk to EVERYONE? Because I always have the OCD to do that in games, but with Ys games I always just wanna cut right to the gameplay. Talking to everyone was never a pain in the old games because the towns were so small. But with this and 7 it takes ages and i don't remember getting much out of it in 7.
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>>79042839
I don't think you get much out of it outside of a missable quest or two.
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>>79040403

>not learning Japanese after all of the censorship incidents recently
>not to mention all of the other bonuses

I'm not going to say that you're getting what you deserve because you don't know Japanese, or that you shouldn't be angry or disgusted that these ego-tripping nutjobs are the people who staff localization companies, but the facts are that they've shown that they don't much care about the consumer's anger, and some of these companies would sooner close their doors than give the consumer what they want, with no guarantee that someone better would show up to take their place.

The only ways to get away from them are to either cut out of the equation by learning Japanese or leave niche Japanese games behind entirely.
>>
>>79044401

* all of the other bonuses to knowing Japanese
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>>79043520
well fuck that then id rather just get to the adventuring.
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>>79044401
I'm so tired of this damn learn japanese argument.

I know two languages already (that are actually useful and used in more than just one country) and work 8 hour days 5 times a week for a decent salary at most and come home to more responsibilities and commitments being able to invest maybe 3 hours to vidya on weekdays 5 if I'm lucky. Why exactly should I put the effort into learning japanese just so that I can fuck over this so called censorship? I mean, as long as The story gets across I don't really care if minor changes have been made.

At least I certainly do not give 10 fucks that BD's characters were made a couple of years older and that I got a slightly less revealing bikini.

Vivian is actually a boy? Woow that had so much fucking bearing on the story and enjoyment of PM2. Mind = blown.
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>>79045274
>that are actually useful
This kind of thinking is the worst.
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>>79044401
>I'm not going to say that you're getting what you deserve because you don't know Japanese, or that you shouldn't be angry or disgusted that these ego-tripping nutjobs are the people who staff localization companies, but the facts are that they've shown that they don't much care about the consumer's anger, and some of these companies would sooner close their doors than give the consumer what they want, with no guarantee that someone better would show up to take their place.
One thing I don't get is how it seems like to a T almost anyone who is in a position of "power" in the VG industry (I use that term loosely in the video game industry of course) shares their views.
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>>79010960
Because religion is silly.
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>>79045696
No really, i tried to make the effort to take specialized courses for japanese every saturday at the break of dawn back when I was in college and I honestly did not see the fucking point.

I mean, I was doing that for literally one game, Tits, and even then it would take me years of studying to get japanese down enough to actually be able to enjoy playing the games.

For just a few games? I just don't care enough. The language isn't actually useful to know unless you plan on living there.
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>>79044883
Well in Ys Seven the missable quest didn't really give you anything worthwhile and all the worthwhile items were on quests you could do in the endgame. I would assume Celceta is the same.
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>>79046169
Some people really like jap games so it's useful for them.
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>>79040403
literally who
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>>79046519
Is there really that many worthwhile japanese games that don't already get localized or can be played with minimal japanese knowledge?

And I mean jrpg games that aren't just waifu pandering or something like that and have an engaging story or a combination of decent story and gameplay.

Because honestly in my case, while theres several i would like to play, there aren't really any aside from a couple that I would really feel like I missed out by not playing them.
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>>79045274

>thinking this argument is for you and only you
>thinking that people should stop talking about it because *you* personally do not care

Okay? If you don't give a shit, then don't learn Japanese.

But for the people that are absolutely fed up with the state of the localization industry, it's their only out.


>>79045878

Conservative approach to PR + peer pressure to stick to only criticizing politically correct targets. I'm sure it has plenty of people who don't like it but keep their mouths shut in the public eye.

The simple fact of the matter is that the west is currently scared to scrutinize movements that claim to be pro-woman and/or pro-minority, regardless of how bigoted, delusional, hypocritical, selfish, oppressive, or regressive the movement might happen to be. There's a lot of pressure to agree with them unconditionally.
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>>79047565
There's loads of VNs and untranslated manga.
Some people are into that.
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>>79047576
>fed up with the localization industry

If you're seriously learning a whole language just because of this so called censorship I would seriously consider getting your priorities straight because just going of the most recent offenders like BD or the whole possibility of removing the word trap from akiba's trip i really don't think theres an issue to be had with the localization industry unless you're a giant whiny cunt.

I could understand the censorship pleas if there were many many incredibly bad offenders to the whole situation giving me actual reason to be mad.
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>>79047910
If thats the case then okay sure. But as far as I am aware we were Talking exclusively about jrpgs and japanese games here, not novels that very clearly require the ability to read in japanese and hardly ever get localized.
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>>79048240

Maybe they want to fap?

>Pathetic virgin losers!

You're on the wrong website. Facebook is that way.

You also appear to be forgetting about incidents of entire minigames and end-game content being removed for various reasons.

That's not all, either. Terrible half-dubs with no Japanese audio option, DLC that never gets released, bad translations, and year long waits (often longer), among other things.

>I don't care about any of those, so that makes you a baby. Also, I unconditionally refuse to listen to any arguments about why dubs suck, and have decided that absolutely nobody is qualified enough to make that judgment (I'm qualified to say that they're great, though; I'm just that smart).

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that you're smarter than us. Allow me to revise. Nobody should care about any of that, and nobody should learn Japanese in order to get around it.
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>>79049891
The reason why everything you're saying is mostly shit is because it is literally opinions the post.

And yes unless you're talking to me about a dub as bad as chaos wars, which I have yet to see, your opinion on the matter is nothing more than that, a fucking opinion. Why is dual audio such a big deal? You have the game english, turn off the voices if you're so autistic that battle grunts in english bother you.

>minigames an endgame content
The minigames are definitely a non issue but tell me all the examples of endgame content being cut, I'm genuinely curious. I would also like to know how many were a cause of censorship.

>bad translations
I can give you this one for like 3 games which would be the Loh ones. If this really is such a bad offender though, give me more examples. I would assume the market must be filled with these if its such a big issue.

>year long waits
Localizing a game is harder than developing it. If you're that impatient then its not really the companies problem or a censorship issue. If the company can't localize it then they can't, there is no valid reason to blame them for that, especially if you don't know the circumstances behind the decision.
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>>79051023

You've probably had the whole argument presented to you already and just chosen to ignore it.
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So, does Tales of Symphonia have a point of no return? Cus one of my party members said to me "this may be the final battle, are you sure you want to go on?"
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>>79052494
I don't think so. They always say that when you enter the final dungeons, but I'm pretty sure you can just leave them whenever you want.
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>>79051023

Not the guy you've been arguing with, but just because those points aren't worth learning the language to you doesn't mean they aren't worth learning the language to someone else. Perhaps someone with more time on their hands, for example. Regardless, you can become good enough at moon to be reading entry level stuff by studying an hour a day, so I don't think it's as huge of a timesink as you're making it out to be, though granted if your daily life is significantly more busy you might not be as invested in learning a new language.

There's also the whole matter of learning a language being fun.
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>>78913191
I'm really looking forward to this game. Is that bad?
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>>79048240
Is not just about censorship, bro. You just need to take a look at NISA's "localizations" to get an idea of what kind of a joke these games are for these companies.

I'm not saying the way you're thinking is wrong, but many of us have grown tired of being subject to the whims of the people in charge of localizations. If you feel this doesn't apply to you, you're free to keep getting what they give you.

But just look at recent Atelier translations with fuck all for editing, that SAO game with its gibberish translation (And for a similar example from the same company, just look at what they did for the Gagharv games on the PSP, which are part of The Legend of Heroes saga), Tales of whatever, the one for the vita is also getting a gibberish translation.

If you can't see how people who enjoy these games would be fed up of constantly having to deal with this shit, then what is wrong with you? By all means, enjoy your terrible localizations, but don't go around giving shit to people looking for alternatives so they don't have to deal with this shit
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>>79053846

He's not wrong in saying that it's a huge timesink. You've got over a thousand hours of work ahead of you before you're comfortably reading most things. At a strict schedule of exactly an hour per day, it would take years.

Unless you have ridiculous working hours or are working + taking classes for a work-intensive degree (i.e. medicine or engineering), you have the time, though. It's just a matter of whether you want to spend it learning Japanese.
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>>79051023
>but tell me all the examples of endgame content being cut
From the top of my head, Persona on PS1 had like 70% of the game cut for god knows what reason. They released the PSP versions years later that had the cut content included, but that's still a valid example.
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>>79055168
Persona for PS1 was a clusterfuck in general.
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>>79054886
Imagine how feed up women are with having to deal with sexism in the gaming community!
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>>79054886
>Tales of whatever, the one for the vita is also getting a gibberish translation.
Any proof to this? I want to know if I should cancel that preorder for Fairy Fencer F.
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>>79057620
Here's an article on it
>http://www.blade2187.com/2014/06/12/you-guys-need-a-localization-director/#more-1021
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not a fan of the MCs design
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>>79057965
Oh.

This guy's ramblings. The localization does look like shit from what we've seen, but until the game comes out we won't know for sure if those were just shitty placeholders or rough drafts.
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>>79058752

I want to fuck red.
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>>79058752
Oh, so that promotional image really was from D5...
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>>79059032

Is this gonna be PS4 exclusive? Have they said yet?
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>>79059302
It will get a Vita port in a year and a half.
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>>79059652
way 2 cute
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Seems like I'll get a PS4 in late 2015 then.
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>>79059032
I'll play it for the desco lolialike, but the protag is horrid. Looks like they've going full edge with this revenge storyline.
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>>79059032
>>79059434
>>79059652
Seems like good old Disgaea so far.
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>>79060098
>Looks like they've going full edge with this revenge storyline.

Nah, it's fucking Disgaea, it will be mostly comedic with an occasional tear-jerking moment and a possibility of getting a pretty horrid ending.
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>>79060098
Considering bunny girl goes berserk if she doesn't curry that's unlikely
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>>79060098
The only time Disgea ever goes anywhere near "edgy" is during the worst endings.

Even then, that only applies to 2's Bad End.
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>>79047565
>>79046169
If it really is only a few games that you'd be learning the language for then fair enough. Probably isn't worth it.

Honestly the best basis on which to learn it is with an interest in the language itself. Learning the language and about the language in itself being an end, not just a means.

Language-learning as a chore is always going to be infinitely more difficult than language-learning as an interest. Thankfully, language is super-interesting.
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>>79059032
>>79059434
>>79059652
Can't say I'm digging his half-assed jacket, but I like that he's a fist fighter and has a scarf.
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>>79059032
I'm just happy it's still sprites.
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Where the fuck is Etna?
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>>79061669
She just had her own game. She'll make a cameo and be DLC no doubt.
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Who Kokon Horay here?
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>>79062082
Why is Muzet an elf?
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>>79059032
Kishirika what are you doing there?
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No 3D models in Disgaea 5? Preorder cancelled.
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>>79063214
She was born that way.
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>>79059032
>As for why the game is exclusively coming to the PlayStation 4, NIS president Sohei Niikawa explains: "We thought about going multi-platform with PlayStation 3, but doing so would've made the PS3 the standard," Niikawa said. "Since we're making it, I want to be able to offer something that could only be done with the PlayStation 4." As an example, Niikawa points out that Disgaea 5 will be able to feature 100 characters on screen simultaneously, where a PlayStation 3 version of the game could only handle 10.
>100 enemies on screen
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>>79064342
That's gotta be BS. Disgaea is one of the least demanding games on the PS3. To tell me that they couldn't let you use even one more character than 10 is nuts
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>>79064342
>ps3 can only handle 10 enemy sprites
maybe they just suck at making engines? DW games handle 100s of 3D enemies
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>>79064342
Yeah, I call bullshit.
Remember that forest ambush in the first Disgaea which ran on the PS2/PSP? That had more than 10 sprites on the screen.
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>>79064342
Japanese PR is fucking stupid and filled with liars, what else is new?
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>Shadow Gaius
>Keeps confusing everyone
>Have to stay linked to even do damage to him
>If my stupid AI partner gets confused so do I
>He one shots everyone after they get confused

I think I'm done with this game for today. Unlocking this arena fight is more trouble than it's fucking worth.
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>>79065012

I think the point they're trying to arguing is "High definition" sprites, but that seems doubtful, too
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One thing missing from Xillia for me was a Thief/Rogue type of character, can anyone tell me if Ludger fills that role?

I see that he dual wields sometimes but he can basically transform into a bunch of weapon types? Anyone wanna explain? I kinda wish I could just stick with the dual wielding

Also convince me to buy 2? Tales of Xillia is basically the only Tales ever that i just hated thoroughly
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>>79067269
During battle, you can press L1 and R1 to cycle through 3 weapons, Dual swords/Hammer/Dual pistols.
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>>79067269
>Also convince me to buy 2? Tales of Xillia is basically the only Tales ever that i just hated thoroughly

Ludger looks professional as fuck.
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>>79067269
>Also convince me to buy 2?
Don't, unless you didn't play the first.
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>>79064342
>As an example, Niikawa points out that Disgaea 5 will be able to feature 100 characters on screen simultaneously, where a PlayStation 3 version of the game could only handle 10.

The programming in Disgaea 4 seems worse than Minecraft
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>>79067269
>Tales of Xillia is basically the only Tales ever that i just hated thoroughly

Why would you even consider buying a sequel to a game that you hated?
The battle system was improved, but if you hated that too there is pretty much no reason for you to get the game.
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When I left you, you were but a child.
But now you are my waifu.
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>>79067132
sprites are sprites, just textured quads.
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>>79067585
Why is he so stylish? I'd let him come over and fuck my big sister. He looks like he'd get any job done.
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>>79067948
But his tie is never done up properly, his stylishness is naught but a lie.
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If you don't know who this is, can you really be said to like JRPGs?
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>>79068247
That's part of the look.
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>>79067861

I didn't really hate it for the battle system, but the story, pacing, characters kinda suck.

Does Milla still have a lisp? (important)
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>>79068291
>If you don't __________, can you really be said to like __________?
The answer is no
Everyone's a dumb entry level kiddie at some point. That doesn't invalidate their interest in the hobby. You just need to guide them in the right direction.

FFII is also the worst Final Fantasy and the least essential to play
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>>79068635
Nope.
I kind of miss it.
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>>79068635
>He didn't play it undubbed
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>>79068649
>FFII is also the worst Final Fantasy and the least essential to play
Thats correct but one should still know about it
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>>79068938
You're so superior CFWman. Why do you even associate with us plebs?
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Yay, time for Volume 2.
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What are some good JRPGs with a male spear-wielding party member, either the protagonist or a game where I can make him my party leader/walk around maps as him.

I love spea rusers.
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>>79068635
The lisp is gone.
The characters are still the same though. And whether or not you'll like the story depends on how you feel about alternate dimension shenanigans.
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>>79068983
Only thing you need to know about it is that you can get oneshot by walking 10 steps to the south of the starting town.

Also to hit yourself for hours.

>>79069145
To laugh at people who pay money for DLC, alternately to feel pity at all the costumes you will never get.
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>>79067923
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>>79069571
>To laugh at people who pay money for DLC, alternately to feel pity at all the costumes you will never get.
I don't think I've ever played a game that had DLC or costumes I wanted. But then I don't like many games this gen
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>>79069554
I don't know, I thought the characters were better in the second game.
Leia actually felt like a character, instead of just a tag-a-long, and Alvin basically spent the whole game suffering.
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>>79069571
>Only thing you need to know about it is that you can get oneshot by walking 10 steps to the south of the starting town.
Wow that's like, so hardkore maaan! It's like it's the Dark Souls of the famicom!
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http://gematsu.com/2014/09/popolocrois-harvest-moon-announced-3ds

Holy shit fuck yes Jesus
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>>79069572
Wow thats some blurry lolwut. Let's see if this fixes it
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>>79069953
>Zero chance of localization
>3DS still region locked
welp
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Final Fantasy Pokemon clone when?
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>>79070224
Why is there zero chance? Xseed are still localizing Harvest Moon games, they're just doing it under a different name.
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>>79070684
FFXIII-2
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>>79070725
Will they take a risk on Popoloptocpprolpolois which isn't popular in the west though?
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>>79070072
4chan needs more high definition thumbnails
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>>78976218
>That drawing
Dem feels.
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>>79069713
They're relationships with each other felt better. But with Leia being the exception they don't really seem all that different from when Xillia ended. I can't comment on actual Milla since I haven't gotten to her yet, but I can imagine a change from hanging out in the spirit world for a bit.
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>>79070823
I'd like to think that people aren't stupid enough to look at Natsumes so called "harvest moon" and believe they're made by the same people. I'm probably wrong though.
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>>79070684
>>79070771
Dont forget X-2 International/HD
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>>79071447

Wait, hold the fucking phone. X-2 International has monster collecting?
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>>79071696
Yep

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Creature_Creator
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>>79038031
I heard it was the Spirius Corp building.

and I hope I picked the right stuff for Xillia 2 NG+ with the crap GRADE I had.

*the items that teach artes and skills
*cats
*x2 EXP
*Affinity (main reason why I did a NG+)
*Extractors
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>>79071182
Actual Millia is probably the character who changed the least out of the main cast.

Alvin was probably the one who changed the most, with him trying to better himself and actually be a decent dude.

Leia actually feels like a character to me now, and her interactions seeming a lot more natural now than they were before.

Jude feels like a better character, much more focused and interesting, with goals that extend beyond "Muh Millia!"

Elize and Rowen are pretty much the same, but their character episodes help develop them nicely, so while they stay mostly the same they still feel different as they're in different situations. Though Elize feels more mature, especially in her interactions with Elle.
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>>79072924
I don't think cats are worth it for 1000.
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>>79073107
I wanted it out of the way so I could possibly get the good weapons earier
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>>79067585
Ludger would be perfect if he didn't have the dumb nip multicolored hair shit.
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>>79070969
It's the combination of extreme compression and chroma subsampling, not resolution.
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>>79073554
It's fashionable in Elympios
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>>79059652
Holy fuck, just look at that fat orange bastard,
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>>78953085
Shining games hasn't been good in years, and even back in Force games they were still passable at best.

I'll still probably get it as I do always, but you're not missing on anything if it keeps the same standards of the previous recent games. Plus Taka's art is objectively horrible with no sense or desire of improvement, very much similar to Urushihara with the last being worst in that department.
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>>79054886
I would agree with you if once again your post weren't opinions the post.

The problem is that these games are barely getting a localization effort and a very minor group of people "whine" about the quality of the translation.

If the translation was TRULY as shitty as you make it sound then I would see a lot more people complaining. The average person is satisfied with the point getting across in the writing, even if the localization isn't accurate to the bone.

People like you though, make it sound like its the bane of everyones existance. Perhaps its no wonder they don't put more effort into the localization.

Honestly, I'm just happy we get the games at all. A lot of these games don't really have the quality to make beat sellers over here so I'm thankful that theres companies who do it already for that shitty profit.

>>79055168

Congratulations you gave me one example, of a game that is no longer relevant even. Since we got the game remake with no content cut.

>>79053846

I don't doubt your statement but its absolutely baffling not to mention enraging that someone would tell me to get off my ass and learn japanese and not rely on localization companies for wanting one or two games that aren't getting localized. Its nothing but e-peen moonfags and its even worse when some whiny censorshipfag comes around and says "oh we don't get proper bravo bikini in BD? Game ruined, time to learn moon." Seriously what the fuck?
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>>79077947

Though I can't help but argue against a certain unnamed company, whose translations regularly introduce game-breaking (and in some cases, console-breaking) bugs and all kinds of lowbrow sexual humor in the form of name changes.
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>>79078575
Making a difference: Locally. >>79008078
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>>79077947
>Honestly, I'm just happy we get the games at all
That's the saddest shit I've read in 4chan since ~30 minutes ago.

Don't mind me, I'm just quoting you for emphasis.
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>>79077947
I would be grateful that they translated games out of the goodness of their hearts too.

If they were free.

But they aren't, its a product.
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>>79078916
why do you always have to be such a dick
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>>79069231
How long did that take you? I'm actually replaying Infection right now and planning on finally playing the rest of the IMOQ series for the first time. Wrapping up the book stuff in Infection right now and I'm surprised at how quickly it's going by.
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Ushumgal (FFXIII): “snake-dragon” of Sumerian mythology.
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>>79079784
Yeah, really cool for them to include that one. I like Sumerian mythology (fuck the hates)
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Peepee Percival Peepee Percivaaaal~ He wets himself and he's found on the shelf~ Peepee Percival Peepee Percivaaaal~ He wets himself and he needs a pal~ Peepee Percivaaaal Peepee Percivaaaaaal~ MOOOOM I MADE THE PEEPEE~
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anyone thought that Liberl Kingdom from Sora no Kiseki is very very similar to City State of Jowston from Suikoden II? it's not just about having a lake in the middle. even the placements of the cities around it are similar.
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>>79080381
you posted something weird
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What's the best Rune Factory game overall?

is there one which has the best combat/is most combat focused or are they all about even in balancing the combat/life stuff?

I could buy the Rune Factory 4 on my 3DS shop or I could emulate Frontier for Wii or something else.
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>>79079275
36-37 hours, which is 29-30 hours not counting all the main cutscenes. 6 hours of which were spent trying to get Kestrel's goddamn accessory, because a 5000 man guild has trouble finding someone to watch the store.
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>>79080850
I played 4 and didn't like it. It felt like a jack of all trades, master of none. Had a lot of shit to do but none of it was particularly well-done and as such not very fun.

Lots of people would disagree with that assessment, however.
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My penis.
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>>79081638
His penis
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At the Xailen Woods Temple right now. In the first game there was a sidequest here that was basically left on a cliffhanger. Does that get continued in Xillia 2?
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>>79081952
Yep

The two shrine girls are pieces of Pluto, a bisexual nihilist spirit girl.
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>>79081638
the characters all look the same
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>>79082050
If you're blind
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>>79081638
>>79081883
their penis
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>>79019480
>Segas Tales

Shining series are older than tales series noob faggot.
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>>79081638
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>>79082873
That doesn't look like Etna, Flonne or Pleinair. Do you lack attention to detail?
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>>79082992
Not him but the plenair one is spot on.

Same hair and the bunny motif.
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>>79083192
That hair looks nothing like Pleinair's hair.
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I feel like FF8 loses steam when it hits disc 2, kind if reminds me of FF9 actually. Hoping it picks up again soon. I loved FF9 despite disc 2, maybe this'll be the same.
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>>79082873
Is she Rozalin because she's rich and has guns?
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While we're on this topic, which Disgaea game do you guys think is the best?
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>>79083280
Sure it does.
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>>79083496
D4>D1>D2>DD2>D3
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>>79083456
That and with MC on a quest to get revenge on the overlord.
In before shes related to him somehow
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>>79083496

I played D2 the most out of 1, 2 and 4. But then, my only experience with 1 was the DS version.
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>>79083736
She's the MC too tho, there's three MCs.

>>79083749
>my only experience with 1 was the DS version.
I pray for your soul.
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>>79077947
>Honestly, I'm just happy we get the games at all.
Rednal, is that you?
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>>79083736
To be fair Adell wasnt really going for revenge.
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>>79083875
God, Rednal is the scummiest scum.
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>>79083280
I dunno man, look at this picture of Pleinair.
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>>79084719
You had to change the hairstyle, bro.
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>>79084771
Not following you.

I just scanned this picture of Plenair and Kurt from my disgaea 1 art book.
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>>79085761
Lewd
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>>79068938
You think everyone here has a hackable PS3?
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>>79082037
Thanks for that, but I'm a ways off from finding out what the deal was with those shrine girls. I'm between chapters 8 and 9 due to cat catching and Elite Monster hunting. That giant bee woman can go to hell.

Oh, and thanks for the spoiler tag.
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Any fans of the Atelier series here? I just got past the 3 year mark in Meruru. Well I'm at like year 3 month 9 mark.

I am digging the battle and crafting. Anyone play any of the others? Is Rorona + worth the 40 bucks?
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>>79087196
But I have the distinct feeling f that this game is longer than 5 years in game.
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>>79087196

I'm playing through Totori vanilla right now at kind of a weird pace. I'll play it for a year of ingame time, then leave it be for a couple weeks, then come back to it and continue. It really stresses me out when I think about playing it, because I have no idea exactly how much time I have left, but when I'm actually playing it it's pretty enjoyable.
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>>79087569
I hear Totori is kinda laid back about the goals and the time limit for them. Which can lead to players getting listless. That true?
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>>79087196
>Any fans of the Atelier series here?
Yes

>Is Rorona + worth the 40 bucks?
If you want more similar. Rorona+ uses pretty much the same alchemy and combat. Very much worth it in my opinion though.
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>>79088002

I don't really have any idea. Everything about the game is so vague. It tells you "uh, you have to get a higher rank in the next 3 years" but you have no idea how close you're actually getting until you've gotten there, and after that I didn't really know what to do so I'm just kind of fucking around and doing quests. I'm worried that the game's just going to suddenly end because I didn't figure out what to do fast enough.

At the same time, I feel like on NG+ I'll know what to look out for, so I'm looking forward to that.
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>>79088193
It's been such a long time since I played Totori, but don't they show you how many points you need to license rank up? At least for those failure points, I thought they were more straight forward.

I will offer some advice: as soon as Totori's dad gives you plans for a ship, make it. It gets you to the last few areas you need and it takes over a month to travel, as I recall. Plus you have to travel it twice so hopefully you have a warp wing by that point to cut the travel time in half.
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>>79088619

They tell you how many points you need to rank up, but they don't tell you what rank you need to reach in order to get a renewal on your license.

I haven't gotten plans for a ship, but everyone's talking about fixing one, so I'm betting that's in the near future. I have the recipe for a warp gate, but still need to find a certain ingredient that I've never seen before.
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>>79059032
>>79058752
MC's pants are low rider as fuck.
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Does anyone have that image that's an edited (I presume) cutout of a manga with some sultry older girl saying something like "geez, what are you talking about kid? I bet you're still a virgin"? I need it.
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>>79090187
Thanks for pointing that out. Can't get his v-line out of my head.
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>>79088058
Cool. I'll have to get it when I finish Meruru and NG+
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Is Atelier the Dark Souls of Moe JRPGs?
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How do I make Star Ocean:Till The End Of Time suck less?
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>>79091019
No, I don't know if you've heard of this game because it is pretty obscure but Y's Oath of Felghana is, though it has a little bit of CUHRAAAAZY like DmC
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Just got through ending B in Nier. Really good game.

Does it add any more story content in the third playthrough onwards, or is it safe to just skip through the cutscenes and speedrun to the endings?
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>>79091019
popular but shit?
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>>79091019
Not really.
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>>79091550

Sorry dude, the game's kind of poopy.
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>>79091593
>though it has a little bit of CUHRAAAAZY like DmC

>DmC
>CUHRAAAAZY
please leave
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Some HQ D5 screens/artwork

http://gematsu.com/2014/09/disgaea-5-first-screenshots-artwork
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>>79094374
Yay sprites.
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Why were people saying Volt in X2 is a hard fight? Or do you fight him again latter on and he reams your ass?
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>>79094909
Probably because he will kill all your AI members in about 5 seconds, forcing you to solo him.
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>>79094374
Dammit Harada stop drawing guys with low-riders
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>>79095106
Also not really seeing the Rosalin resemblance..
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>>79095356

People just looking for things to whine about.
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>>79095356
That's because there is none.
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Is there any reason why I shouldn't buy the localized version of Fairy Fencer F?
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>>79095770

It's a Compile Heart game.
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>>79095770
>compile heart
>frame rate
>nisa
If none of those bother you then go for it.
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>>79095770
Speaking of FFF didnt they announce a sequel at the Sony Pre-TGS conference?

I'm also kinda interested in picking it up (never played a CH game yet)
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>>79095770
Wait for the price drop.
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>>79095356
Hot as fuck.
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>>79095836
>>79095851
I'm an oddity that likes the gameplay in the CH games I've played. And the Japanese version looks like the framerate is atleast stable. The only reason I'm concerned is NISA, but I think their translations were better than whoever is doing Atelier now.
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>>79094374
>>79095356
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>>79096282
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>>79096190
The only issue with Acttil is the lack of Q&A. NISA's issues are a lot deeper than that.
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>>79096190
I am worried that NISA will add bugs
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>>79095356
>>79095356
I hope this game is a hit so we get lots of porn of this foxy lady.
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>Zombie Meido

I'm glad Disgaea once again appeals to many seemingly random fetishes
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>>79095356
Porn of this semen demon WHEN?
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>>79097243
>Yandere zombie meido
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>>79097298
Probably not much but thankfully we'll have plenty of lewd art from Harada of her
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>>79097243
Zombies are mai waifus.
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>>79020374
>It's Sega, don't bother trying to make sense of their actions.

Games that don't profit aren't brought over. It's like you people forget how Sega and bamco has unrealistic expectations for the sales of their titles, and that's why they don't bring shit over anymore. They don't play niche, and they decide what is or isn't going to sell.

First VC didn't flop as people mistakenly believe. It didn't turn in profit. Yakuza's localizations also, for the most part, make up for the localization costs, but the profit is disappointing for them.

That's why sega and bamco refuse to bring shit they aren't safe whether it will sell "enough" or not..
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>>79099606
>and they decide what you play or not

T-thanks based Sega
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>>79099606
Isn't it related to how Japanese companies tend to play it safe in the gaming and anime industries?
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>>79096781
>The only issue with Acttil is the lack of Q&A
That was mostly just a problem with Escha. Rorona+ was fine.
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>>79100101

That's at least one thing Idea Factory, Compile Heart, and Suda 51 have going for them; they aren't afraid to be experimental and risk their titles failing.
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>>79101574
CH and IF don't really have anything to risk.

New system, old system, it doesn't matter the game will be shit.
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>>79101786

But bless/damn their heart, they keep trying.
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>>79101872
>But bless/damn their heart, they keep trying.
That's what I say every time I finish a tales game.

Until xillia at least, until they stop trying and stay "comfy" in their safe profit zone.
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Best Disgaea characters?
http://strawpoll.me/2488743
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>>79102296
I don't see what was safe about Xillia. It has the worst boss system of the series and is very barebones compared to some of the other games. Xillia 2 is a lot safer.
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http://gematsu.com/2014/09/tears-tiara-ii-pre-order-bonus-announced-main-characters-introduced

So does anyone know if this game is any good
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>>79102296
Xillia wasn't safe.

It was rushed out the door to make it in time for their anniversary.
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>Persona 5
>Disgaea 5

When's Final Fantasy 5 HD
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>>79103584
First was better.

If you can read moon just wait for the inevitable 18+ improved version for the PC.
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>>79104486
Fuck that
I want my Devil May Cry 5
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>>79104486

It's already out on the android
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>>79104606
Series dead anon.

NT killed it
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>>79104606
Never happening, just like how Dragon's Dogma 2 will never happen.
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>>79104606
Think to yourself for a moment anon.

Do you really want it? Do you really want th current Capcom to give you this? Does Itsuno even work there anymore?
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>>79104589
Then you lose half the voice cast. Pointless.
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>>79104757
I want my Devil May cry game with a Level depth like 3, the bosses as detailed as 3. And DMC4 Dante Style swap
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>>79104771
>half
TEH RIE is the only one who hasn't voiced eroge from skimming the cast.

Honestly kicking Kugimiya Rie from the cast can only be a positive though
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>>79105147

Depends on which voice she's using. She's a really good voice actress when not tied down by her one or two-ish tsundere voices.
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>>79104771
>>79105147
Missed Chiwa Saito, so far as I know she hasn't voiced anything under a pseudonym. Although unlike most others she has such a wide vocal range its possible she has.
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>>79104627
>android
>HD

kek
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>>79105305

This.

She's at her worst when she's voicing loli tsunderes.

Playful Rie is delicious.
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>>79105757
>>79105305
I love her as Nena.
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>>79105757
Shes pretty good at voicing boys
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>mash l1 to to kill annoying loli
>ends with implied rape too
top lel
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Rie Tanaka > Kugimiya Rie

^)
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>>79105983
I think that might have been in your head.
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Does anyone have that image at the end of Xillia 2, the one with Ludger holding elle? I need it.
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>>79104486
not a jrpg but fuck
too bad i will never play
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>>79106069

Rie Tanaka < Kugimiya Rie
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>>79106450
>>79106069

Rie Tanaka >< Kugiyama Rie
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>>79106521
That's a paradox Snake
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>>79106286
This one?
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>>79106842
Love it, thanks.
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>>79106842

I want a Tales game where everyone gets a sentai transformation.
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>>79106919
It's moving in that direction if Zestiria's any indicator
I don't really know what to think of the new shit Tales is doing but at least it's *something* new and different
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Meruru guy here. Any advice for making money? It seems I am always strapped for cash and I do every tavern quest possible.

Also how many years is the game? I am worried since year 5 is coming and I'm only at Neptune.
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>>79103584
atlus aren't even bothering to dub and yet they dubbed conception 2, that should tell you everything
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>>79110409
Conception doesn't have anywhere near as much dialogue.
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>>79110736
They could have still done a 15% dub like good ol' NISA.
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>Tales of Xillia 2
>chapter 11
>chapter 12
>chapter 15

I don't think I've gotten so many feels from a Tales game before.
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>>78992793
they have a chance of being worth a lot of potch/bits but they're usually not. One certain Urn that comes from a "? ornament" is required for a recruitable appraiser.

Even some failure items have purpose though. IIRC Failure Urns can be set up in your bath and they'll cause an effect if you put up enough of them. I'm not sure if that's in both Suikoden I & II or just II though.
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>>79107058
> at least it's *something* new and different
Fusions have got to be the stupidest thing I think. I was already iffy about the linked shit Xillia and Xillia 2 has been forcing. I miss everyone having their own overlimit guage, I guess.
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>>79110975
Thanks, I'm almost finishing it though
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>>79111847
forgot pic
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I have a question about Tales of Xillia 2.

Why does my chromatus transformation keep ending randomly? I get about two hits in and then I'm transformed back to normal with 0 chromatus. I'm trying the bisley fight now and he punched me once while I was attacking and I turned back. What the fuck is going on?

This happened three fucking times against the Pluto fight as well.
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>>79112484
Don't get hit.
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>>79112484
KORPSE SHELL gauge drops sharply if you get hit.
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>>79112484
Your guage drops based on damage taken. The last boss typically does FATAL damage if he hits you so you automatically get knocked out. So, don't get hit.
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>>79099606
>First VC didn't flop as people mistakenly believe. It didn't turn in profit.

The reason why VC and Yakuza are both dead in the West is because Sega judged all potential interest for them by the sales of the terrible VC2 and Dead Souls, which were both shit.
Fuck Sega.
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Humans are as scary as any JRPG creature in any game save for maybe a few. This is a human. It attaches itself to a body and runs wild with it.
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There's something really endearing about the equipment icons in the FFT series

I know FFIX and FFXII use a similar style for their icons, but without making a unique sprite for each unique item. Do any other games in the series use them?
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So, I finished Suikoden, pretty short (25~ hours), though I played with an walkthrough. In the ending it says that Tir became the president of the Toran Republic, but in the end I got this pic. Did I miss something or is this explained in the sequel?
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>>79117742
Thats not the canon ending. Suikoden II has a bit about Tir a lot later in the game if you load your memcard data from S1
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>>79118208
>Thats not the canon ending.

Yes it is. They assign Tir as the president, but he leaves the night afterwards without telling anyone.
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>>79116925
>Humans
>Not the scariest creature in any Jrpg

Be glad you're part of the masterrace.
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>>79120031
>but he leaves the night afterwards without telling anyone.
O
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Just think. This is the only Cockatrice many FF players have ever known
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Motherfucker.
That was close.
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>>79020183
What kind of dumb question is this? What does high budget or production have to do with a game getting localized?
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>>79121736
The higher the budget, the more likely it will need western sales to make it back
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Any recent JRPG that has the same feel as the saga games ? esp RS3 and SF2 ?
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>>78924836
good combat
good story when you're a teen
nostalgia value
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>>79122394
Last Remnant, but that's because it's basically SaGa with a different title.

Other than that, no, nothing that works like SaGa unfortunately.

There are the SaGa 2 and 3 remakes for the DS if you haven't played those already.
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>>79122614
More like good story when you pay attention.

>>79122109
Not necessarily. There are low budget games that sell like trash that get confirmed localized and high budget games that don't all the time.
>>
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197338-final-fantasy-ix/faqs/41181

What's the most insane and masochistic challenge run in any JRPG?
>>
so what exactly is kingdom hearts HD 1.5 remix?
Also if i've never played a KH game where should I start?
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>>79122832
I still like the story. I mean, it really clicks to you when you're a teen.
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>>79122617
already played Last Remnant and I don't think it has the same kind of vibe, the combat system, sure, but the story, not at all imo. I really liked it though.
>There are the SaGa 2 and 3 remakes for the DS if you haven't played those already.
I haven't played them. On my way.
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>>79123759
It's a compilation containing:
-KH1 Final Mix (Final Mix being a rerelease with extra content)
-KH Re:Chain of Memories (PS2 remake of a GBA spinoff, takes place between KH1 and KH2)
-Cutscenes from KH 358/2 Days (DS spinoff, also takes place between KH1 and KH2, after Chain of Memories. Again, it's just the story content told through HD cutscenes, not the actual game)

1.5 Remix is a great place to start if you're new to the series. 2.5 Remix is coming out this winter.
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>>79123759
Collection of the first 3 (chronologically) game in the series.

Its pretty much the best place to start if you're just getting into the series.
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>>79121412
That was the final boss in the 3rd, right? Congrats man.

I spent so long fighting it just to get defeated the first time I tried. God damn that was frustrating. I was a bit silly with my equipment, but then if I wanted to change it I'd have to redo the other 3 bosses before it, so I just had to push through without proper status resistance.

Are you going to move straight onto Zero/Ao now or going to take a little break from the series?
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>>79124247
>>79124334
alright thanks.
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>>79124048
Oh, so you're talking about the story and designs?

Well, nothing like that either.

Consider that the SaGa remakes are still part of the old SaGa trilogy when there still wasn't much of the Romancing SaGa spirit.

They're still a bit FF-ish in both design and system but they're good, SaGa 3 is still the worst game of the original trilogy, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't like it.

They have some pretty kickass music anyway, definitely SaGa style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eYp_jPJjVc
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>>79122832
>There are low budget games that sell like trash that get confirmed localized
I didn't say it worked both ways

>high budget games that don't all the time.

Name em. Hint: There is maybe 1 high budget Japanese games released a year :^)
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>>79124436
That boss was absolute bullshit. I dominated him the entire fight without taking any damage. And he pulls a stupid billion damage move at the end.
I liked how the other fights made me use all characters though, It was a nice change of pace.

As for what's next, I actually just bought Zero for my Vita. I'm expecting it to arrive in 2 weeks so i'll use that time to take a break from the series and play something different.
>>
I have a few questions about Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness.
Is it worth messing around in the Dark Assembly early on? Is making a bunch of Mages/Skulls with my primary magic users as the mentor and learning their spells worth it? What about the Item World?
Is there anything cuter than Flonne?
I'm at chapter 5.
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>>79125690
nope not really to all of those questions
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Looks like there is a demo for Theatrhythm Curtain Call up on the US Eshop now
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>>79125690
>Is it worth messing around in the Dark Assembly early on? Is making a bunch of Mages/Skulls with my primary magic users as the mentor and learning their spells worth it?

Nah, not much point. I had two casters throughout the whole game. The item world might be worth messing around in, but not too much at this point.
Also, get ready for AKAI TSUKI.
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>>79125914
Fan service + rhythm game

Like one, hate the other

Suffering
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>>79125215
Yeah, using all the playable characters of Sora for the bosses to end it was really good. Only problem for me was trying to equip out all 16 of them with Quartz, especially since I made sure the main team had all the best ones.

I hope you enjoy Zero. I'd say it and Ao are better than the Sora trilogy, and having all the story events fully voiced is great. As you can probably tell from the ending of 3rd you'll be getting to see Estelle, Joshua and Renne voiced.

While Zero doesn't end on a cliffhanger on the same level as FC, I'd say to make sure to order Ao to arrive before you finish it. I ended up jumping straight into Ao right after finishing Zero. The two of them feel like one really, really long game anyway (so like FC&SC, but longer).
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>>79125914
People still bother with that cashgrab trash?
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>>79126040
I can't wait to see what happens with Renne next.
That last memory door was pretty dark.
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>>79110081
Anyone?
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>>79105983
What game is this?
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>>79124823
>Oh, so you're talking about the story and designs?
More like the atmosphere of the game.
>Well, nothing like that either.
why ;_;
>Consider that the SaGa remakes are still part of the old SaGa trilogy when there still wasn't much of the Romancing SaGa spirit.
I'll try anyway. the music sounds good.
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>>79130568
Well, since you mentioned SaGa Frontier II and RomaSaGa III I'd tell you to play RomaSaGa II since it's basically a mix of the other two but I don't know if you read Moonrunes.

It's a damn fine game too, my favorite RomaSaGa title.
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>you will never marry a chubby muscular oni-girl
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>>79134004
Oh shit, It's out?
That reminds me, I haven't even fully finished Arashimaru's one yet.
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>>79134004
>>79134515
Not JRPG and its on shita, fuck off.
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>>79130941
I don't
I wanted to learn since a long time, if you have a few pointers I'm all ears
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>>79134586
Contain your autism.
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>>79134789
Fuck off.
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>>79134843
No.
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>>79134687
>if you have a few pointers I'm all ears

Study regularly, that's all there is to it.

The rest depends on how determined you are, by studying a few hours each day you'll make progress fast enough to be able to play games with little problems in a few years, unless you wanna play games that are really text heavy or with specific jargons like technobabble or something(which isn't really that much of a problem with a good dictionary) you won't really have problems.

Again, you must study regularly and keep yourself in shape.
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>>79134586
>>79134843
Kill yourself.
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>>79135330
I'm gonna do this. I'll try to use manga raws as an incentive, it's the fact that the english scantrad teams were faster than the french that motivated me to learn english.
Since it's rare to encounter another SaGa fan, any other series that you find cool even if they're not that similar ? thanks for the conversation until now.
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>>79134515
Kinda odd, I finished Arashimaru's but still haven't finished Gonbe or whatever his name was. The second one.
They were saying there's a bonus for beating all four of the DLC stories, any idea what it is?
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>>79135936
Well, as a SaGa fan it's hard to find something quite similar to it, especially a whole series.

I like most of the old Tri-Ace games, most games that involved Yasumi Matsuno, especially the Ogre Battle series, most of the Seiken Densetsu series, BoF...The only thing I don't like is excessive fanservice really, I even enjoyed most Tales titles.

SaGa has everything I like though, it's non linear, has a lot of characters, deep gameplay, great music and designs, lots of replayability and minimalistic but nice stories.

But now that I was thinking about it, there is a game that is vaguely reminiscent of SaGa, that's Grand Knights History.
It has most of those little SaGa quirks like the characters posing, formations and commands over stats-like gameplay. You might want to check it out, the visuals are also impressive, but hey, it's Vanillaware we're talking about.
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>>79136496
Nope, no idea.
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>>79125914
Why buy it when you'll just have to buy the new version next year to get more songs?
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>Muzét's first character episode
What the flying fuck? If I was supposed to actually sympathize with her this time around this crazy fanservice bullshit sure isn't helping
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>>79139394
She's just a slut, don't mind her.
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>>79140014
>She's just a slut
She actually seemed interesting in Xillia 1, but I guess I'll have to live with the fact that she's been reduced to "I want to tether with anything that moves" jokes
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>>79140379
To be fair, have you seen the guys she's surrounding by?
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>>79139394
Well all of Alvin's episodes are just how the devs can make his life more shittier than before.
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>>79141427
I liked Alvin in the first game, does he really suffer a lot in Xillia 2?
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>>79143235
Yeah, but he handles it better.
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>>79141427
Maybe they thought it would be better if he paid for all the trouble he caused in the first game? But I personally think he's gotten his fair share of punishment in xillia 1 already. Wouldn't mind a bit of happiness in his life and all... ;_;
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>>79143474
The guy was a piece of shit and he should feel like one.
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>>79143303
Whoa, not the anon you were replying to but I just finished his third chapter now. Now I'm kinda scared at how much worse it's going to get...
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>>79143916
Uh, yeah, his 4th chapter is pretty heartbreaking.
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>>79143804
He had fucking swag though.
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>>79143804
See, that's probably the kind of thought they had in mind when deciding how his life should be on the sequel
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>>79137212
Thank you again. Our tastes match, it seems, even if I have nothing against convoluted stories.
Did you like Legend of Mana ? I played it way before the Frontier games and they reminded me of it in some way. One of my favorites games, even if the gameplay doesn't match the rest of the game in depth in my opinion.
Also, what is your opinion on Knights in the Nightmare ? I thought about playing it, even though I didn't really love Yggdra Union.
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Looks like the Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei guy is working on Romancing SaGa 1 next.

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,18590.0.html
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>>79144940
aw yeah.
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>>79144940
As someone who was looking forward to KMT you better be warned that it may take a few years until he actually finishes it...
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So I'm about halfway through Xillia 2 and I gotta ask.

Is there a darker RPG out there? Goddamn this game is brutal. Some of these side stories are rough as hell.
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>>79146438
Drakengard and NieR are the obvious ones.
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Some English vids for Persona Q are up

http://gematsu.com/2014/09/persona-q-english-character-trailers-protagonists
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>>79146438
Valkyrie Profile is pretty fucked up since every person you recruit has to die first, usually tragically.

BoF 4 is pretty fucked up.

Several games have ROUTES that are fucked up, like demon route in Soul Nomad, though even the normal route on that gets pretty bad.
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>>79146438
Yes
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Is it just me or is the Hero in DQ3 kinda shit? Mine is just completely outclassed by other characters.
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>>79152136
>>79152492

Soul Nomad goddamn
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>>79152136
>>79154851
Sprite games don't count since they have no emotional impact
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>>79155049
bait harder
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So, I've never played a shining game but I'm interested in Shining Resonance and Shining Force Feather/EXA

Is Feather a sequel or a port of EXA?
SF because Pako and Resonance because the shota and two of the girls.

How are the Shining games as a whole? T2's art in this looks nice for some reason and not so sameface-y.
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>>79152136
>>79152492
>Soul Nomad

Sorry, that shit doesn't count. It's just you going around killing everyone and everything for no reason with no impact.

Meanwhile, over in Xillia 2, your main characters are faced with having to kill their friends and closest companions (especially fucked with Avlin Chapter 2, for example) on top of all the guilt Ludger carries around with him the entire story for killing hundreds of millions if not billions of people total, all to save the 'prime' dimension.

There are very few RPGs out there that have that weight behind them. Soul Nomad is not one of them.
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>>79157581
I can't tell if you're serious. Xillia and Xillia have the most poorly written drivel for characters I've seen in a while.
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>>79157825
Xillia is all over the place with characters, but 2 does the main cast much better. Alvin being one of the best and Jude, Leia, and Elize also developing a lot more.
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>>79159274
Is Leia actually not an annoying, garbage, useless piece of shit in Xillia 2? I might have to pick it up.
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>>79159715
She's annoying at first, but is quickly put in her place by her editor and chief. Her entire story basically revolves around how to stop being uppity and naive about the world. She becomes a hard worker and gets her own identity other than "Jude tag-along"
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>>79157581
I hope you're kidding.
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>>79157581
Please Tris and Penn are way more tragic than any character in Xillia.

Not to mention everything with Walnut and Euphoria.
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>>79156523
Anyone?
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>>79164714
ded thred
ded genre
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>>79169518
We're all in the real thread
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>>79164714
Nice try, this is the only JRPG thread
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>>79164714
I've heard Shining is really plain from ps2 on
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>>79103478
Axel is my waifu
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>>79173050
Really? I'll try looking into some gameplay videos.
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How in the fuck are you supposed to beat Shadow Milla in the ex dungeon? She can use Undine at any time and heal herself for fucking 300 thousand health. I've been fighting her for an hour and a half.
>>
This place really has gone inactive since summer ended
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>>78913246
>loved SaGa Frontier and Romancing SaGa 3
>pick this game up
>run through the early chapters, avoid 95% of the enemies, fight the ones that crowd me in small corridors
>get through to where it opens up a bit
>seems disjointed and barren
>read a faq
>I missed 40% of the content in the game by fighting 10 or 11 mobs in the start of the game

What kind of sadistic piece of shit designed that game?
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the fuck, does anyone actually want this on steam

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309930148
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>>79176823
Mustard race wins again, praise gaben, etc.
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>>79176812

It's the kind of game that's designed to be played through quite a few times. That's why there's so many different characters to choose from. You can't be worried about missables when you play it for the first time. Instead, you need to just play through it without a guide and try to understand the basic mechanics ex combat, resource management, finding where the gemstones are, etc. On subsequent playthroughs you should use a guide to see "everything" but a lot of the quests are shared between all the characters so if you miss something as one character, you can try it out as another on your next playthrough.
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>>79176749
Isn't it great?
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>>79177023
The only thing that's really ever appealed to me about SaGa combat is the skill sparking system, and the rate for it in Romancing was so unbearably low that I found myself getting incredibly bored with the game, as the majority of the playthroughs I did I found myself sighing at the retarded monster density in some areas was just sickening.
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>>79176823
HOLY SHIT DO WANT
I don't want to have to buy a fucking vita for these dungeon crawlers. GIMME
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>>79176823
Poor Vita can't even hold it's exclusives.

voted
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>>79177679
>poor shita
Shita is shit and it deserves every shitty thing that happens to it.
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>>79176823
I hope not because it is shit.
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>>79178541
Okay.
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>>79178541
Do you really hate a small device that much?
What went wrong in your life?
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>>79176823
BASED FUCKING AKSYS, SUPPORTING PC MULTIPLATS OF JAPANESE GAMES
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>>79176823

No choice but to buy it. Supporting JRPGs on Steam will be good in the long run.
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>>79179058
Did you play it? No of course not
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>>79179263
supporting shit is never good
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>>79179263
Steam scum is so brainwashed.
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>>79179867
You don't know what shit is. Keep playing your Tales kusoge
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>>79179154
>shita
>small
>liking shita
lél
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>>79180837
What are your thoughts on the 3DS?
>>
I keep hearing that you can purchase at least one gold dice with your chips, but I don't see it in the four pages.
>>
The Mystical Big Ass History Book of the JRPG
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>>79181225
>shitDS
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Are you guys trolling with that Mind Zero crap or what?

Holy shit talk about bland. Bland gameplay. Bland visuals. Bland characters.

Absolute shit. Fooled me once with TitS, not gonna fool me again with another garbage ass game.
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>>79181778

>didn't like TitS

Who the fuck's going to take your opinion seriously?
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>>79181952

Easily the most boring RPG I've ever played in my life. The story was atrocious. I understand what they were TRYING to do, and maybe when you play the entire series back to back to back to back itll be good, but TitS 1 is not a good stand-alone game, at all
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>>79181778
I wouldn't want a DRPG to have anything but bland gameplay. You just don't understand.
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>>79181778
It also has shit music and a shit story that has a shit ending so you wouldn't be missing anything
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>>79181778
>Fooled me once with TitS,
Thanks for outing yourself
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>>79179193
Fuck Aksys. Bring over CCC or I riot.
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>>79182518
>he doesn't like our shitty game we waited years for! lets get him!

You guys are clowns. The game is objectively bad. The only reason you like it is because you're all autistic as fuck and are so desperate for a JRPG you'll eat up anything that is thrown your way
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>>79182121

I'd like to disagree with your opinions. Its character interactions are fantastic, the characters develop naturally, and the way you slowly uncover the fact that the army is staging a coup and working against that was done excellently. The orbment system is like FF8's junction system only better, and the world is just overall really well-developed.

Also the fucking music is fantastic.
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>>79182675
How many buzzwords can you stick in a single phrase?
>>
What order do you tackle shit post game in ToX2? I tried the EX dungeon, and while the first boss wasn't bad, the second wiped my party in about 8 seconds. Should I hit the arena first? Or just grind levels? Or do the EX monsters? What?
>>
>>79182290

Well that was a given with the first video that auto-plays on the greenlight page.
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>>79182121
This is a pretty fair assessment to be honest. TitS 1 by itself is nothing fantastic, not even that good even if you pushing it.
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>>79182675
Dude, FC was out on PSP forever.
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>>79182675
Nobody waited years for it. At most the length that people waited for the PC port was a year. There was only one guy that posted about it in every thread.
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>>79182798
Zero.

You're autistic as fuck because you can't handle someone saying your precious TitS is a shit game, and the game is objectively bad as a stand alone in terms of gameplay, graphics, development, storying, characters, and practically everything else. The world building is alright, but even then it's no where near as good as you all hyped it up to be.
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>>79183094

>it's bad because it's bad
>it's bad because "everything about it is objectively bad"

I feel like you're trying to get an angry response out of me, rather than argue a point.
>>
>>79183094
You're going to need to write a master's thesis on why these things are bad.
>>
>>79182947
>psp
>mattering in any way

It was only considered out when the Steam version hit the store.
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>>79183762

Shut the fuck up, retard.
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>>79183813
lél, be more mad.
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>>79183762
Fun fact: 3DS is on track to only sell as many units as PSP sold. PSP was a successful handheld.
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>>79183206
>>79183646

The gameplay is horrible. The map system they have had very little thought and design around it. The combat system is faux deep. You think strategy and tact are important, but in reality with very very few exceptions you can just power your way through everything. The ability/core system is bloated and super extraneous. What could easily be cut and chopped from it is instead multiplied by all the different elements. Again, like the battle system, it's faux deep. You could spend a lot of time and customize everything, or you could just mash on strength and power through everything in the game.

The graphics are abysmal. There is hardly any detail, and it looks like something from the late PS1 era. The textures are practically non existent, and an overwhelming portion of the maps are cut / paste jobs with different color schemes.

The characteres are bland, especially the main two. Oh look, another shy/timid but also really powerful male character that is constantly being shit on by the overbearing something-to-prove overagressive femal character! Never seen that before!

Practically everything the game does is done better in other games. I could go on, but regardless of what I say you clowns will just continue thinking the game is flawless and timeless and everything I say is just a troll simply because I don't blindly agree with you, so good day. I'll be busying actually enjoying the games I play as opposed to you guys who kid yourselves into thinking you like the games but really resent them for how stale/repetitive the genre has become.
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>>79184625
Sounds like you believe what you say sir
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>>79184625
>I'll be busying actually enjoying the games I play as opposed to you guys who kid yourselves into thinking you like the games but really resent them for how stale/repetitive the genre has become.

What. Do you even know how retarded that statement sounds? You're basically saying "You don't actually like what you like because of how other games that are not related to it are getting stale."
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>>79185351

No, I'm basically saying that because JRPGS as a whole have become very stale and haven't evolved much in the last decade that anytime the smallest little thing is 'unique' about them in a game that game is suddenly the third coming of Christ, when in reality it's just another stale JRPG with one or two tiny little unique qualities. In this games case it's the battle system, when in reality it's just a super watered down Strategy rpg.
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>>79184625

The combat system being simple and easy to cheese is something that's the same in 99% of JRPGs, and the orbment system, while making the game easy to cheese, also offers a lot of variety should you choose to pursue it.

The graphics aren't extremely high budget because Falcom is a small company, and they make up for budget by having excellent environment design. All of the houses look real and lived-in, all of areas have extremely good coherence.

>Joshua
>shy/timid and constantly being shit on

If anything, the dynamic between Estelle and Joshua is "Estelle gets overly excited and Joshua reigns her in," he's definitely the one dishing it out. It feels like you either didn't pay much attention to the dialogue or didn't even play the whole game.

>resent them for how stale/repetitive the genre has become

You do realize this game was made ten years ago, right?
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>>78924607
Check out iridiumbased, closest thing we'll ever be getting.
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>>79185752
Nobody here said that it was GOTY or anything. Even the moon readers that played the series ranked it last for the whole series. Dunno where you got the whole "game is suddenly the third coming of Christ" thing.
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>>79185752
But JRPGs have actually evolved TOO much in the last decade. Instead of good ol turn based stuff we have experimental mmo garbage or straight lines with battle systems where you swap paradigms rather than decide every attack, you have tons of games now doing party based action RPGs which I absolutely hate because you can't control the healing and yet many of these still make it so that you can't avoid a lot of attacks
>>
Xillia 2 is so disappointing
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>>79186082
>Nobody here said that it was GOTY or anything.
Oh they act like it, I assure you
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>>79186702
It's way better than Xillia.

I'm sure Zestiria will find a way to ruin all the progress xillia 2 has made with the combat.
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>>79186751
Not really, now you're just being paranoid. People discussed the game and its merits and there was only one guy saying "TiTS on Steam when?" every thread, which originally started out as a joke years ago.
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>>79186936
I found the combat to be much worse than the first. The AI got dumber, and the weapon switching gimmick is pretty useless. I was not a big fan of the dual fighting styles gimmick in Graces, and this is just an even worse version.

Also, aside from the sidestep L1+X is very pointless, and I hate how the game tries to force it as an important mechanic. It really isn't.
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>>79186948
The anticipation was ridiculous here anon. I was here for it. I don't know how you're trying to deny something that happened only a few months ago
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>>79187372
Sounds like you just aren't getting the potential out of it. weapon swapping is important for elemental combos and hitting enemies no matter where they are. The mechanics have been overal improved from Xillia including the awful boss mechanics which can now actually be staggered and combo-ed. If you're not using what they give you, it's really only your fault.
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>>79187796
I would like to be able to switch my weapons during a link chain but I was only able to do it once by accident.. I checked the tutorials and they never say anything about it.
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>>79188045
I've done it lots of times so you can definitely do it. It's what the exchange skill does. If you're in a combo or link and you press the buttons, it freezes the screen while you do it so you can easily continue your combo without dropping it. They're really helpful skills.
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>>79188189
I just recently equipped it. This shit is really awkward and hard to get used to. I am trying very hard to get the hang of it, but I am wondering if I will ever be able to get used to it.

Memorizing 3 different sets of 8-16 arts seems horrible, now way around that.
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>>79188380
Just keep playing and it will all become muscle memory like most actions games.
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>>79188939
>>79188939
>>79188939
>>79188939

New thread
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>>79186936
Isn't Zesty using a modified version of the Graces combat system?
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>>79186702
How so?
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