/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

>>187907246
Is halloween jam happening this year?

https://streamable.com/x9373 most of the systems are done. Just bug fixing on the level transition system and then add the story/dialogue system as well as the boss system needs to be added. After that it's content like puzzles, hazards, levels, world themes, and more cryptocurrency characters

>>187907361
I'm sure there will be 12 separate ones in itch.

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>>187907419
forgot i could just upload a webm

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>tfw talented at gamedev

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>>187908421
Don't fool yourself

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So am I just arrogant and a delusional nodev or do most game developers suck ass at game design?

I can't seem to shake it off but every time I play a game, there is always one or two really dumb, annoying little things about the core design that is poorly implemented or nonsensical. Forget the graphics and all that other shit, things that could easily be fixed by a principle of DESIGN and not even requiring great programming skill.

For example; take the crafting skill in most games. Why is it just a bar that fills up with experience? All players will do is just spam crafting shitty iron daggers until it gets high enough to create their dream weapon. Skyrim is a good example of this poorly designed system.

You could make the crafting leveling engaging and less about grinding by simply changing it to a milestone and specific requirement system. So to get from crafting level 15 to 16, you just need to craft 1 steel weapon. If you already crafted a steel weapon, good for you, you get it as soon as you can.

While a shitty example, does anyone know what I'm talking about? Why are so many games poorly designed? Am I missing something here?

>>187908421
Nene is living the dream
>starts as a bug tester
>gets into gamedev
>makes a game from scratch
>gets hired as a programmer at a game studio
>all of this while still going to Uni

>>187909142
I know exactly what you're talking about, but your crafting example makes me doubt you do.

>mfw didn't use git for my small project I've worked on past week
>mfw I deleted it by mistake
>mfw rewrote everything I lost in 3 hours and it's better than before
>mfw it's on git now

>>187909232
>has a delicious brown girlfriend to teach her code
Truly the dream

>>187909142
If everything is so bad, why dont you make it better or propose better systems? Where's your game?

>>187909142
This is why i got into game dev.
I believed i could be better than the rest.

But nigga that aint easy.
If u were able to make a game with this "better" crafting system u mentioned.
you would have a million shitty design aspects littered throught the rest of the game.
that other no-devs spot... and the cycle continues.

>>187909142
In most games? Pretty sure shit you're talking about only happens in elder scrolls games.
Crafting systems in other games are mostly a complete waste of time as well but for very different reasons.

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the main loop dont freeze the browser no more

had a fight with my game
feeling pretty bad мoя ceмья

>>187909142
You could say that no game is perfect, just like people creating them.

>>187909142
You have never made anything yourself yet you say that it's so easy.

>average idea-guy

>>187909142
Most games making it to you are games with giant budgets, therefore with giant expectations of returns, therefore with simplified systems.

Congratulations, we've recovered the history of Bethesda.

>>187909142
>So am I just arrogant and a delusional nodev
Mostly. Also kinda petty.

I mean not completely wrong, but sort of approaching it at a weird angle that ignores pretty much every factor. Like Extra Creditz.

>>187909232
>uni
is this like some doogie howser gamedev anime?

>>187910069
It's barely about gamedev.

>>187910069
it's a gamedev anime where the characters make games, work and study without shitposting all day. Nothing you can retate to, gogem

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>>187907246

>>187910119
>>187910107
none of this answers the
>uni
part i was actually asking about.
are you all too young for the doogie howser reference? is AGDG the doogie howser of shitposting?

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How do I store branching dialogue as data?

>>187910697
json?

>>187910869
I can store a buncha string using json, but how do I make choices and branching without having a giant script with if statements for every branch?
Surely less retarded people already came up with a good format

>>187911164
store each option as an object and have it contain the suboptions for where it links and just change what the current option is. like a linked list but the pointer is to an array not a linear next step

>>187892674
>Care to name a few of the good games?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/420440

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I don't know why this made me laugh. Debugging/Creating the hard mode only moves.

>>187912292
>how I feel every day
>just like my hopes and dreams
Heh.

>>187910697
I'd suggest:
response
{
string message
dialog* next_dialog
}

dialog
{
string dialog
response* responses
}

have a parent dialog which contains an array of responses which then points to the next dialog and repeat.

Triumph of the Cosmos dev here:
what's better for modeling on-world (planet, moon, and asteroid) settlements? I had made a mockup with a grid kind of like stellaris but I realized it got kind of silly to try and break it up into units like that when I calculated the area of each grid square for various sized worlds. There's still a certain appeal to making it nice and discrete but would it be better to make it be just settlements and there's no hard limit to the number of settlements, but there is on surface area and resources available. I could eventually try to do a map projection or (god forbid, everything else is 2D) a 3D model like EVE if I wanted even more detail.

My top priorities in order are balance, do-ability, and realism.
Other things that matter would be I want to be able to interact with all of the details of the world like available resources, oceans, atmosphere, temperature. I'm going to have research and tech for dealing with different conditions but would one of the models I mentioned be better or does anyone have ideas?

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>only just now discovered the beauty, elegance and usefulness of pure functions

WHY HAVEN'T I BEEN TAUGHT TO USE THEM PROPERLY IN COLLEGE

who /given up/ here

>>187909142
>All players will do is just spam crafting shitty iron daggers until it gets high enough to create their dream weapon
That takes longer though.

This same logic can be applied to RPGs.
If the player needs to beat a difficult boss, all they have to do is grind shitty low level enemies until they're high enough to not worry about actually using their brain.

>simply changing it to a milestone and specific requirement system
>prerequisite requirement system
So now crafting is just a quest system? Doesn't sound that much better to be honest.

What's the point of craft levels anyway? If you have the items, then you should be able to craft it.

>but realistically the player will need certain amount of experience to craft more complex items
This can be solved by making it so only specific NPC's can craft the more complex items.

>>187913094
>He thinks college actually teaches you something useful

Loving every Laugh

>>187913260
>So now crafting is just a quest system
Well crafting has always been basically a quest system. You're just collecting items and drag + dropping them in some boxes.

I dont think any game has an engaging crafting system because its not ideal. If you make crafting more like a mini-game, IE, autistically matching up the lines and measuring heat or some bullshit, then it becomes a pain in the ass to quickly craft basic shit you need.

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>>187912907
here's the mockup. no functionality

>>187913260
Best crafting systems are implicit ones like Etrian Odyssey where you sell materials and can buy items made from them. Least pain in the ass possible but still encourages searching for materials.

>>187912907
Star Ruler 2 had a good system for this
It's too bad nobody played it and the studio shut down

>>187913609
I was pretty fond of the one in Summon Knight: Swordcraft Story.

Get your whole set up, match weapon type to material and throw in some extra crap. It worked, and you were only bothering to make milestone weapons anyway, not steel dagger x 500, so it felt rewarding.

>c# has garbage collector shit
>Meanwhile in gdscript any object without reference deletes itself automatically making 0 overhead when creating and destroying hundreds of objects as if you're doing it in c++
>still sucking on that microsoft dick

>>187913260
>This can be solved by making it so only specific NPC's can craft the more complex items.

I've seen in some games where you have to find or purchase crafting books in order to unlock tiers of crafting.

This would eliminate grinding for experience or taking it to NPCs.

>>187911306
How do I specify what options are linked in json?

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Wait, what. Did I fuck up somewhere, or can GODOT seriously not perform exponentials on floats?

>every game should cater to me 100% of the time
There's literally nothing wrong with grinding.

>>187913893
Many languages can't... Use Math.Pow(a, b)

>>187907541
He's actually doing it, the absolute madman.

Though, I've considered making my game's currency bitcoin.

You have to wait around while your transactions go through lmao

>>187913893
that's a bitwise operator you imbecile

>>187913735
>automatically
That's called reference counting, it's another type of garbage collection it can sometimes be even slower than C#'s stop-the-world garbage collection

Stop being a pussy and use C++ already

>>187913916

Grinding is a nice way to balance games. If the player isn't good enough or lucky enough to win against a boss or tough part of the game, they can go through a few encounters to come back and do it again.

The difference is that grinding can be used as a gate for progression in a game's story or quests, but skill or crafting grinding is shit. You can't craft better gear through being skillful and grinding is just a way to make it easier, nor is crafting the primary method of challenge and difficulty of a game like the combat is. Crafting grinding is just a seriously annoying time waster.

>>187913916
its not the 90s/early 2000s anymore man.
nobody wants to spend all day grinding in your game when there's thousands of other games out there

>>187913916
>relying on filler
weak

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>tfw it's finally working
>tfw it was fucking dumb
>tfw but it's working now

Stuck player death routine into main game loop instead of making it a natural outcome of taking damage.

So when player died he got stuck in eternal explosion limbo, unable to truly die until the game was mercifully closed.

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>>187913963
>>187913980
Yeah, I figured it was my bad. I'll look into it further.

>>187914043
Koreans still like grinding (in a social setting, though).

Loads of people I know still like grindy games (as a soothing no-brainer way to chill after work).

I absolutely hate it... but I've found games that do gimmicks that aren't balanced just right tend to be weaker overall than something that just slapped in grind-shit.

>>187913879
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I've never actually used json I'm sorry. This might help though
https://json-spec.readthedocs.io/pointer.html

>>187914042
Grinding in terms of crafting is a resource thing; you need to obtain enough materials to get the XP to level up.

Turning crafting into a skill-based minigame isn't the answer that'll solve all your problems either, it'll just be an annoying thing that forces you to play another game than you wanted to play.

>>187913619
hmmm looks interesting. I like the natural growth bit.

>>187914319

But if you only do it 10-15 times it won't. It will remain an occasional distraction. You're assuming that the game should have a minigame AND force you to craft 50 iron daggers, when it probably shouldn't.

Also I don't think a minigame would necessarily be a good idea either but it would be a step in the right direction. I think the real answer is to make crafted items as good if not better then items you find on quests and to make crafting very rare; you only craft to make shit you actually want or need, not just whenever you get the materials.

>>187914498
Having to play the minigame 15 times most fucking definitely means you'll be playing that minigame. This does not apply only if you play that minigame 0 times.

Do not make me play a fucking skill-based minigame in an RPG, because I'm playing that game for the RPG not for your stupid snowflake minigame.

>>187914319
>it'll just be an annoying thing
Just make it so when you craft, it makes items in bulk instead of singles. This way you're not constantly trying to playing the mini-game, but when you do actually play it, it's more exciting since the risks are higher.

IE,
Collect x50 wheat + x5 bottles of milk
Play crafting game
Do a 10/10 job?
Get x25 Bread.
5/10 job?
x15 Bread

1/10?
x3 Bread

>>187914745
Fuck off. Uninstall your dev software and never touch them again.

>>187914745
This one sounds so annoying that just thinking about it made me mad.

>>187913879
I guess you could just have a field with the names or identifiers for the linked options. But in your actual code you have to convert that to actual links. Those are where you need the links.
I'd love if someone could chime in but I think json is used because it's easily modifiable, so you could specify the actual data literally in your code if you want.

>>187914814
>>187914798
Ok, well add a 'I'm a lazy piece of shit' button and have it randomly do the crafting for you. You can optionally use your skills to get better yields though.

Solved.

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>>187914738

>in game development general
>hates fun

>>187914865
Being forced to play some fucking puzzle game when I'm playing an action game is the polar opposite of fun.

Minigames are only acceptable when the gameplay of the minigame is very similar to the gameplay of the surrounding main game and uses the similar controls and mechanics. And I don't see how you would accomplish that for baking bread in an RPG.

>>187915073
>And I don't see how you would accomplish that for baking bread in an RPG

turn baking bread into an RPG battle

>>187913094
>sullying pure functions by using them
MONSTER!

>>187914020
how can it be slow? an object is deleted as soon as there's no reference for it, it's instant garbage collection, c# has an annoying delay that makes ram usage go crazy

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>>187915073
>Minigames are only acceptable when the gameplay of the minigame is very similar to the gameplay of the surrounding main game and uses the similar controls and mechanics.

Then why make a minigame at all?

>>187915073
>Minigames are only acceptable when the gameplay of the minigame is very similar to the gameplay
no
the point of mini games is to provide a breath of fresh air

mario games have it
sonic games have it
most games have it

you're just a brainless idiot

>>187915393
To be honest, all mario minigames are using the same mechanics as main games usually.

>>187915073
Minigames are good excuse to shove those useless starting projects (all those pong, breakout,... clones) into the game

>>187914865
you cant hate what doesnt actually exist

>>187915351
>>187915393
DMC where you slice falling watermelons before they hit the floor.

Mario where you must hit switches and buttons around the room quickly in order. Or deliver items around a complicated map with lots of verticality and multiple routes

Both are minigames but use the same control mechanics, only you're using those mechanics for different purposes than you normally would. Technically you COULD make a cooking minigame in an action game. But you'd have to design the cooking station in such a way that you can use your weapons to toggle switches and move gauges.

>>187915480
Depends which one

SMB3 had card matching games and slot machines

Mario&Luigi RPG had tetris

Sonic Mania had tetris

>>187915758
>Sonic Mania had puyo puyo
Also, Sonic Adventure had like every minigame ever.

>>187915754
i never thought of the switches for red coins in mario levels as minigames, it's great when it adds to the level without changing the gameplay at all

>>187915754
>Both are minigames but use the same control mechanics
I'd consider them more level gimmicks than mini games. A mini game is usually independent of the level you're in.

>>187915910
The racing part in twinkle park was pretty fun.
I also think I spent more time playing the NIGHTS mini game in the casino than any other level

>>187915958
I consider a minigame anything that has nothing else inbetween it's start and it's end (i.e. if you quit halfway through you'll fail it), and is somehow different from the "main game".

>>187916057
Also Chao World is probably the biggest 'actual' mini-game where 99% of my time in SA2 was spent.

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i added ragdolls !

i would have never thought how much work it actually is to make a somewhat simple tower defense
or maybe i just suck

>>187916127
>99% of my time
99% of the time half of the playerbase of SA2 rather.

>>187916143
>TD with ragdoll physics
Potential comedy gold right here. Just make waves denser and watch the massive flopping.

Dismemberment when

>>187916143
>>187916261
make a napoleonic wars td game

>>187916746
>towers are firing lines
>cannons shoot straight forward till the edge of the map

actually that's pretty cool

what version of opengl unity uses?

>Make gamedev tweet before going to bed
>Wake up and immediately check it
>0 likes
every time

>>187917002
circumvent the deception of people not caring about you on twitter by not having twitter

>>187915073
>Minigames are only acceptable when the gameplay of the minigame is very similar to the gameplay of the surrounding main game and uses the similar controls and mechanics.
For you, I love when a game throws me a curve ball, as long as it's fun or not too long.
I love every minigame in Yakuza and it would be significantly less alive without those.
Leave this armchair game design generalization shit to youtube "analysts" and judge shit on game by game basis, if it works it works, no need for hard rules.

>>187917002
>0
literally how

>>187917002
Post twitter.

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>>187917002
whodevs unite.

We lit.

>>187917079
There's no hard rules, but as long as people do something retarded 99.9% of the time, I'm going to act like there are hard rules.

>>187917113
whodevs have whofeelings too, dammit

>>187917002
post twitter
also i never nor will use twitter, i just don't understand normies, why would i have multiple accounts on multiple websites for the same thing? it's redundant and time consuming, i prefer a normal blogs, it's comfier.

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>8 days left to demo day
>game is far from being playable
what do?

>>187917436
cut corners

>>187917436
8 days is a long time to make progress, unless you're a slacking nodev like you are right now.

>>187915312
Because there's the overhead of it storing the number of references to each object and updating the value every time a reference to it is added or removed.

It means there are no costly GC-collection passes, but instead you have extra overhead on every single reference manipulation.

Just do your own memory management, that's the only way you can -actually- get zero overhead.

>>187917436
Crunch time, motherfucker. Look at what's left on your to do list, what can be cut for now to make sure you get this out?

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>Had 7 *SEVEN* days off work in a row
>on day 5
>haven't even opened up Unity or Blender

I'm not gonna make it

>>187917436
Make it playable.

>>187917621
Fuck off, open it, and start. Just start anywhere, tape it together later.

>>187917621
I make most progress when I really have no time to make progress. Like when it's late in the evening or if I'm at lunch break from work or something.

>>187917621
Close the fucking tab.
Only use 4chan when you're at work.

>>187917002
was it a progress webm/image tweet or just 'hey guys i just finished working on xyz, k thx', because honestly i dont give a fuck about someone just talking about what they did. show me

>>187918026
but my art sucks and everytime I add an image, I not only don't get a like, but I also lose followers

>>187917436
work you blasted fool, how else do you plan on making on time ?

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>>187918115
> I not only don't get a like, but I also lose followers

>>187917436
>8 days left to demo day
>game is playable but looks like shit

making art assets takes a long time

>>187918115
>go to a shilling platform to shill your game
>don't have attractive art
You're doing it wrong m80

>>187918115
Well surprise, unlike (you)s people usually only give likes to things they like. And people rarely like blog posts.

>>187918252
noone would care about placeholder assets as long as your game is fun

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Working on a little arcade shooter.

currently have level building, player movement with 1st / 3rd person camera modes, dummy enemies, machineguns, target locking and homing missiles with target leading.

>>187918252
You're only showing it off to agdg, like anyone here is gonna give you shit about placeholder assets.

>>187918381
AGDG would get max butthurt about it, but you don't have to worry about them.

>>187918402
pretty cool m8

>>187913260
>This same logic can be applied to RPGs.
If the player needs to beat a difficult boss, all they have to do is grind shitty low level enemies until they're high enough to not worry about actually using their brain.

Bullshit. Beef gating is a hallmark of lazy game design. Even if you spend years grinding Fallout 2 and getting all your stats to 300%, you will still have a hard time killing Frank Horrigan, because SPECIAL is a well-designed system. Inversely, you don't HAVE to be an all-10 all-300% superman to kill him, just don APA Mk.2, convert all turrets, team up with Enclave soldiers, or get a Bozar, pump the character full of drugs and fill the fucker with lead.

A good RPG gives you plenty of options.

>tfw respecting code guidelines and code becomes so clean

>>187918504
>A good RPG gives you plenty of options.
you can do that in any pokemon game and most people consider pokemon a fun, good rpg game.

>>187918115
Post twitter.

Why is designing a good game so hard? No matter what I try, it's shit.
I just want to make a somewhat original gameplay which hasn't been done to death before and is fun, but it's impossible.

Friendly reminder that pixel art is no longer acceptable for an indie game.

>>187918774
Citation needed.

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It has the grindy, fetch quest, carrot on a stick MMO gameplay everyone loathes.

But it's a singleplayer game

>>187918773
It's hard being completely original. But as you try you will build experience.

>>187918938
Kingdoms of Amalur?

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Worked up some fluff on the character for the demoday, going to get on the enviro stuff fora bit and then cleanup.

>>187918948
I don't even want to be COMPLETELY original, just somewhat original. But it seems to me like everything good has already been done before, and there are only weird shit ideas left.

>>187918402
beautiful. like the oldschool style.

>>187919095
Something weird may not be shit through. Like Undertale idea of battles being like minigames.

HEY GUYS ive got a GREAT idea for a GAME J A M .. how about ROBUTS

>>187919380
Haydee already exists

>>187918960
But it's not an indie game.

Slap some pixel art and permadeath mechanics on it and let the cash roll in.

>>187918773
I think it would be hard not to make something different. I'd lose interest before I would design a game that's exactly like another game.

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And here's some choppy swinging, thanks to the gif. It's super fun to do, i probably need to make some conditions where you can't stop and have to use your grapple to redirect momentum. Getting around is a lot of fun too. Maybe i should jsut make the floor lava at all times.

>>187919571
That's the case for me too, and also why I don't make much progress. I just can't come up with a good idea which hasn't been done to death before.

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>>187911164
>Surely less retarded people already came up with a good format
Turned out Night in the Woods devs actually did, the editor is pretty minimal but can export in json, at least I don't have to do much of the hard work myself.

>>187919674
damn why does your guy look like vomit man

>>187919695
ideas are a meme

just fuck around in your game engine until something cool happens. then expand upon it. the game makes itself desu

>>187909142
Yes, this can happen. However it's also important to look at how it fits into the big picture. A skill in itself might be mediocre but the combination of skills make it good.

>All players will do is just spam crafting shitty iron daggers until it gets high enough to create their dream weapon.
Not really, not all players, for example I didn't and I'm pretty sure there are others. It also makes partial sense from a practice standpoint. See below.
>changing it to a milestone
It would be much easier to use a ratio where low tier items advance the skill very little because you should already know how to make them very well.

The thing is that linear relationships, simple functions like a logarithm (with a little tweaking) are far easier to reason about then complex solutions. Don't get me wrong anyone with simple CS knowledge about graphs and trees can go quite far, but to reason properly about some partially discrete system and yet keep the big picture going to isn't easy.

There is a reason Mathematics (together with electrical engineering) have an entire branch dedicated to the analysis of complex systems and their behavior.
Emergent behavior arises in complex systems and that's how people break games using an emergent combination.
Designing a system where combinations are naturally reduced (you only have to specify some basic constraints instead of checking everything by yourself) to the "acceptable ones" can be an extreme challenge depending on the scope of things. You need to build it like that from the beginning. It's closer to building your own laws of physics than building a nice system for feature X. You can no longer view systems separately as much as before.

>>187918970
>>187919674
This is pretty cool, well done anon

>>187919695
>I just can't come up with a good idea which hasn't been done to death before.
It's almost impossible to do that.

I'm making a Terraria clone that focuses on automation and has invasions where enemies try to attack/destroy your base. Nothing about that is 100% original but as far as the game as a whole goes there's nothing like it.

>>187919859
>Terraria clone
You have blog/working demo? I love Terraria and geniuely interested in playing it.
There should be more Terraria clones, why ppl don't do them?

>>187916937
I think they use the IDM release.

>>187920097
>why ppl don't do them
Because there's already Terraria.

>>187920097
It doesn't do either of those things yet, the whole project is mostly black triangles at this point. I'll post progress when/if I get it to a more interesting state.

>>187920183
Terraria is only 1 very specific incarnation of the genre, and as fun as it is it's still filled with flaws and missed potential.

>tfw OS.set_time_scale(float) will affect every use of delta ingame even in animation player
we slow motion now

How would you execute things based on DeltaTime?
For example if I want something to last half a second, would I just do like:
if(timeCounter >= 0.5)
doStuff;

Is that a safe way to do it?

>>187920183
Terraria is 7 years old, everyone interested in it played and replayed shit out of it and desperately want something new. Starbound is utterly boring and all other clones don't execute formula good enough. There are literal millions of fans who will eat up any decent clone that will come up.
So this is a real gold mine waiting to be mined. But nobody want to do it for some reason. (yes, I understand that it is almost impossible for 1MA since you have to produce shitton of content to make decent clone).

>>187920450
it's better if you do it the other way around
float timeCounter = 0.5;

if timeCounter > 0 : timeCounter -= DeltaTime;
else: doStuff;

For mecha jam I want to make an RPG with microgames, but I'm out of ideas. One of them would be about aligning crosshairs under a certain time limit, but other than that I can't come up with anything that is somewhat related to sooting/weapons/machines or mecha. Help?

>>187920529
>So this is a real gold mine waiting to be mined
Well, better get started?

>>187920529
>I understand that it is almost impossible for 1MA
Terraria was a 2MA project at the beginning, and all the other guy did was shitty sprites thus he wasn't even necessary.

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>>187919789

i want to do a game jam to get team experience.
where can i do such a thing?

>>187920631
Charging your lazer, mashing a button to spray fire over a wide area, timing the AOE blast for an explosive, I don't know.

>>187920187
I don't understand why people suck undertale battle system's dick, instead of the meme view you can easily make a that an actual boss fight in a proper level with hazards spawning the same way, the turn based aspect will turn in a cooldown of skills, when the boss is cooling down you can use items and land a hit, and it wouldn't even looks like undertale ripoff

>>187920843
Same reason why people suck the dick of the battle system of Dark Souls: they don't know any better

>>187920843
>>187921009
Y'all are just bitter cause they have a game and you don't.

>>187921056
I actually enjoyed Undertale, and I appreciate Dark Souls for what it is.
What I don't enjoy is uninspired 1:1 copying of already established systems.

Do those bad games at Steam even sell or why are they continue being made?

>>187921372
Trading cards

>>187921372
You're talking about this one? http://store.steampowered.com/app/367080/Songbringer/

>>187921372
They probably sell very little. But since they are cheap to make as long as you post more games you can a small, but continous profit.

>>187921480
This doesn't seem like a bad game from what I saw. What's your grip with it?

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>>187921480
>I feel like a kid on the Nintendo playing Zelda again, but updated graphics, & modernized gameplay features! Which I'm LOVING!!! The combine feature was confusing at first, but somehow accidently made epic stuff!!!! No Regrets! JUST DO ET!
>The game's interactive environment is superb, making my gaming bits tingle!This is like the love child of Zelda & Star Wars! Everything I expected and MORE! I have nothing to complain about AT ALL!

>Product received for free

>>187921372
You ever go through the published catalogues of those Steam games' developers?

It's usually just the one game they make, that fails, and then they never make another. Or else they're a dedicated shitstain on humanity and have a billion RPGmaker games, one-note VNs or Unity farts.

Anyway there's just a lot more creators having a stab at it and very quickly discovering that they don't have the chops.

>>187921372
If all this gamemaking tech was available when i was in high-school or something, i'd make a game a week for years.

And you get some money out of it too, so all the girls get on your dick, because you've got the biggest fidget spinner at school.

>>187921480
This looks like shit.

>>187920813
are you an artist?
no->give up
yes->post art

>>187921056
i'm not bitter, i'm astonished by the number of people who only clone shit and afraid of going out of their comfort zone to do something that is potentially a lot better.

>>187920621
I'm not sure if I misunderstood how DeltaTime works.
So if for whatever reason a 60FPS game drops to 30FPS for a second, wouldn't that mean the DeltaTime between each frame would be doubled, and so it would execute in a quarter of a second instead of half?

>>187921731
i'm a programmer primarily.
why would i have to give up

>tfw you name delta time as "tflf" in your code

>>187914745 >>187914853 >>187914814
I'm pretty sure Fantasy Life for the 3DS does exactly that. Minigame, multicraft, optionally somewhat automatic after a bit, still better yields from manual.
But I've heard that entire game is practically designed to placate MMO addiction in the case of required offline mobility. So yeah. Pity both the devs and players.

Here's an engine in active development, with decent documentation, and an API similar to XNA, except it uses Haxe so you can compile natively to any platform.

http://kha.tech/

>>187921984
>meme engine
feel free to shill an engine when you actually have a game to show with it

>>187922108
https://github.com/Kode/Kha/wiki/Games-Built-With-Kha

>>187921984
>and even Unity 3D
What does this mean? How can it export to Unity?

>>187922147
even if one of these is actually your game, it looks like shit

>>187922167
You write your code using Haxe and the Kha API, and then it can make a Unity project from it. I think the Unity build target is broken right now though after Unity made some updates.

>>187921857
collabs end badly 99.99% of the times

>>187921793
>wouldn't that mean the DeltaTime between each frame would be doubled
that is correct, the accumulated of DeltaTime for a second would be always 1 (technically it would be more if the frame rate is slower than 1fps), so basically DeltaTime = 1/fps.
the only time you need to pay attention it is when you're doing your own collision checking while moving objects, since objects are technically teleporting, if DeltaTime is big they will seem to pass through objects because they traveled too far for collision detection to catch, it's why fast moving bullets can pass through things without colliding, a good physic engine will solve this by moving and checking collision in small steps. but you get the idea

>>187922325
>and then it can make a Unity project from it
Pretty neat, though I'd have to wonder why someone would use Haxe. Never heard of any dev actually knowing it.
I always figured it was some kind of action script tier language

>>187921480
Can't nintendo sue those faggots for screaming ZELDA in their advertisement?

>>187922504
Well, other than just Kha I've found Haxe pretty useful. The syntax of the language is similar to ActionScript, but it's statically typed. Also, it's a transpiler, so the actual output of what you program isn't an executable, but your code translated into a different language. For example, Kha uses Java or C++ for the Android platform and Objective-C for iOS. And the code for those projects is generated from the Haxe code that you write.

>>187921984
>still needing to install separate IDEs and compilers for each platform to actually release the game
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT???
if it's using one omni-language that will translate itself to target then it's not that good

>>187922325
Why not just write it in fucking Unity?
People don't dislike it because of C#

>>187910697
Nodes.

>>187922986
Well, I think that has to do with your aversion to closed source software or Unity's licensing. I've never used it, but I'm assuming that it's for platforms that aren't already supported by Kha. So the platforms which are supported by Kha, you can use Kha which is open source, and the ones that aren't you can use Unity with all the implications that has.

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Why did you pick a particular game genre? Was it always you wanted to make or was it just the easiest?

Is there any real sandbox (not voxel) game that isn't just a home builder or a lonely survival game?
I would love more depth (traders, thieves, towns with actual people, fractions or anything else that's beyond killing zombies and surviving as long as you can)
Just found Kenshi but it looks painfully amateurish and it's still early access which basically means the developers have no deadline.

Trying to implement jumping but I can't figure it out.
I want it to replicate Mario 64, the problem I have is that on the ground, the character is moved using transform.forward. In the air, because the character can't rotate, no matter what way you point the stick he'll move forward because transform.forward doesn't change.

How would I solve this? So for example let's say he's moving through the air at (0, 0, 2). The stick is then held down (toward the character's back), so the value of the stick = -1.
How would you decrement 2 based on -1?

>>187923512
ultima online

>>187923505
It's a genre lacking in innovation (all the games play practically the same) so I wanted to introduce some mechanics to it

>>187922595
I'm not a lawyer.
But from what I understand since it's a quote from someone else, and it's not misleading consumers to think the game is a Zelda sequel or endorsed by Nintendo or something like that, then it's not a problem.

>>187923505
Its the genre I have the most fun with so naturally thats what I want to base my game on.

>>187922595
They never said Zelda. But even if they did, so what? Will they sue someone for saying their game has a gameplay similar to Zelda?

>>187923750
Considering how trigger happy Nintendo seems to be with YouTube's system, I wonder why they haven't taken action here regardless.

You're not making a roguelite, right /agdg/?

Would focusing less on graphics/tech and more on originality/content really cure the gaming industry?

>>187923946
I absolutely am. I love roguelites.

>>187923946
Yes

>>187924075
>>187924089
I'm so sorry.

>>187923946
Some people enjoy roguelites. No problem with that.

>>187923976
I wouldn't say cure, but it would provide more content for those people who don't buy only based on 'fancy graphics'.

>>187923946
Hell naw nigga

>>187923848
They kinda did, before any gameplay is shown in the trailer, but it's a quote from some hack journo so that makes it okay or something?

Wait, so I can write a blog post under a pseudonym calling my game the Dark Souls of Deus Ex and then "quote" it in the trailer of my game? Shit.

>>187924108
You're welcome.

>>187923946
I don't want the usual line of sight stuff because people will think it's a rouge like.

>>187923976
We need to focus less on graphics and more on tech.

Where are my water physics.

>>187923505
graphically simple yet complex in term of gameplay and strategy, simple yet have great depth is my favorite thing

>>187924108
Don't feel sorry anon. We all like different types of games, and that's okay.

>>187924224
Technically...

>>187924224
Nothing wrong with that as long as you don't say 'it's Dark Souls'.

Just say 'it's gameplay is inspired in Dark Souls".

>>187923976
I feel that graphics really bottomed out at the middle of the 360/ps3 gen. Games definitely look better now but the advances are so gradual that the ballooning budgets don't feel necessary.

I honestly wouldn't mind if all games looked about Dark Souls in terms of quality.

>>187924385
Those budgets are probably thanks to the open world wastelands that for some reason every game had to be now.

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>>187924373
>as you don't say 'it's Dark Souls'.
Can I say "Dark Souls goes ballistic"?

>>187923512
Mount and blade has a great dynamic world, modes add even more, i'm surprised no one made an apocalypse mode for it and it sounds like a great idea

>>187924373
It is gameplay is is not proper English grammar. That that had had to be pointed out should be embarrassing.

>>187924665
>That that had had to be pointed out should be embarrassing.
pottery

>>187924385
>I honestly wouldn't mind if all games looked about Dark Souls in terms of quality.
I'm so damn sick of kids comparing every game to fucking Dark Souls. I wish these faggots would burn. Every time I see Dark Souls mentioned I'm reminded of some teenager GAMER with his little headphones and razer mousepad drinking GAMER energy drinks

Fuck Dark souls

>>187923946
I have no ability to write a good story. So there's no way I could make a story game. My only choice is procedural generation.

Hi aggydaggy, I wanna learn some multiplayer game coding (from scratch).
I'm looking for some easy projects to tackle. Please help.

So far I've decided to do these:
1) Multiplayer tic-tac-toe
2) Multipalyer pong

What else could I do?

>>187924750
Do kids even play dark souls?

>>187924750
You'll never be successful with that attitude.

>>187924837
Yes, that's the playerbase of Dark Souls.

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>>187924750
But anon, Dark Souls is the best, most hardcorest game ever, with a super deep story and some of the most intense tactical third person melee combat that all other games strive to copy.

I really have nothing against dark souls but I sure am tired of it being compared to literally everything and people thinking it's the pinnacle of melee combat.

>>187924834
Net or local? Multiplayer tic-tac-toe is easier to program than solo.

>>187924987
Net

>>187909142
It takes effort to make a more in-depth system. Bethesda is not known for putting effort into anything.

Also some things sound better on paper but end up not being that fun in practice.

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>>187924750
you can buy these in my grocery store.
the slogan says "Energy for true heroes."
i know it's sad, but i would have bought this when i was 14. sadly my parents weren't intelligent enough to keep me from drinking and eating all sorts of polluted trash.

>>187925235
I never wanted anything real bad. went on this candy bar stint for a while. but like two a day.

>>187924468
Yes, but a bit like "it's like Dark Souls going ballistic".

>>187924665
I don't care about grammar here. I would be thankful if you it was a typo in a game however .

>>187924834
>>187925048
Please respond

>>187925235
Nothing wrong with eating trash food as kid.

>>187924750
Dark Souls is a popular game. Deal with it.

Just like people who say "it's like Call of Duty".

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>>187923976
A game requires good aesthetic if you want people to even look at it. And it requires good aesthetic if you want players to enjoy looking at the game while they play for an extended amount of time. The art doesn't have to be extremely high quality or anything, it just needs to have pleasing colors, a consistent style, and good juice.
Braid for example, I don't think that game would have gotten popular if still had programmer art at release. Most people would look at that and think a kid made the game and there's no way it could be fun.

So make the game as original as you want with whatever fun mechanics you have. But remember that the visuals are an important part of games.

>>187925235
something about energy drinks, like eh no thanks.

So, learning coding and art is easy peasy, but how do you learn game design? How to become a good idea guy? It's too hard...

>>187924750
I just hate that "souls-like" became a genre term.
They should be called "monster hunter-likes" since Dark Souls is a monster hunter clone.

>>187925601
When in doubt do it over and over is my motto

>>187925508
>dwarf fortress

>>187925639
That's because Monster Hunter isn't as popular as Dark Souls.

>>187924971
>and people thinking it's the pinnacle of melee combat.
To be fair, most people's only other reference for melee combat is Bethesda games

>>187925709
>Outliers exist

>>187925671
What did he mean by this? How can I do something over and over if I can't think of anything?

>>187925739
Poor fools.

Guys my game is pregnant!!

>>187925601
Just consume all day, eat a lot, watch movies, be a lazy cunt, watch porn all day, demand money from government and from your parents.
When you observe yourself ranting about the gaming industry and games that should exist, but don't, write everything down.
Then stop being a useless leech, get your life together again and work on everything you wanted when you were a lazy, useless consumer.

>>187924834
I beg you on my knees to respond

>>187925745
>A game requires good aesthetic if you want people to even look at it.

>>187925601
Play games you like, Analise and copy what they do.

>>187924385
I'd like something along the lines of Xenoblade, rather.
Just enough texture resolution and polygons to portray minimal detail without going low-poly™ autistic.
Plenty of 2D scaled textures to portray lights.
Selective use of color palettes rather than complex lighting of any sort.
Enough facial expression to portray emotion and character.

Just technically very simple and straightforward but still proper designed 3D. Like right on the border of the graphic whore shift.

>>187925764
Good job. Keep asking yourself that question over and over you will figure it out eventually.

>>187925842
Just copying shit is boring and lazy.

>>187925835
asteroids
space invaders
frogger
dig dug

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>>187924329

>>187926013
Thank you friend, I was about to fetch the noose
Multiplayer asteroids could be fun

>>187925510
You don't like the taste of stale bubble gum, excessive b-vitamin toxicity, and other shit for your body to filter out?
What. Do you actually WANT your gal bladder to not fail?

>>187926009
Have you never had to learn anything before?

>>187925709
>>187925839
To be honest Dwarf Fortress is one of the prettiest ASCII games out there. Also I think ASCII in general looks better than shit programmer art. Because at least with ASCII the player can imagine the cool things happening. With programmer art the player has to imagine the game as the programmer sloppily drew it.
If you want to gamble on people not playing your game because of its art, then that's up to you. But if you want to guarantee views you need a good aesthetic.

>>187926080
What do I learn from copying ideas? I learn the coding, yes, but not how to make good ideas.

What do you think about overspecialisation? like being so specialized in a genre without ever touching anything else?

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I like the way this looks, but I'm not married to it our nothing.

>>187926226
It sounds like a difficult way to shoot yourself in the foot, to me.

>>187925709
DF has a very good aesthetic. It's a beautiful cell list of locations from which to gather information. Straight forward information pane on the side.
It looks like watching information flow.
And then, going very well with that information theme, you can actually check spaces, items, characters, monsters, for detailed status, characteristics, opinions, even full action logs that make up an emergent story.

Its aesthetic makes it look like it has too much to process to justify wasting power on fancy graphical effects. Its complexity follows through.

>>187924834
Multiplayer tic tac toe is a very good starting project.
Why do you need more before you even start on that?

>>187926226
Then you're likely doomed to make games just like the ones which came before it.

>>187926216
i make a living composing/selling beats and one thing you have to learn to become productive is contentment with your ideas/projects. if you cannot keep working on what you do, you'll end up finishing nothing, while chasing that "perfect idea" forever and ever and it will never come, trust me. you also have to give up on this idea of making this "break-through new game everybody wants".
i would kinda say if you cannot finish a boring idea, you cannot finish a good idea either.
also so many game studios lose their income by wanting to reach more people instead of feeding their niche.
e.g. i thought so often about making different styles or changing my genre, but i would have started from zero and other producers are already well established in other genres.
you have to learn to accept your individual interest and keep working on it. if it feels boring or you think it's a waste of time and you need better ideas, welcome again -> learn to be content again.
only thing that ever paid out in my life was to stick to what i'm doing.
other examples would be games like Factorio, Don't Starve or The Forest, none of these games have good ideas, they just stick to what they do and it grows, grows and grows. none of these games is mainstream, but best in their niche.

>>187926226
Appealing to a niche (and unloved by mainstream developers) genre is a solid way to make money.

>>187926510
is it? like people who are specialized in point'n'click adventure games, or visual novels, especially in the later case, Eushully (the company who made kamidori, a VN and a great rpg) perfected an rpg/vn engine and reused it for multiple games for years they basically only doing content with little to no new mechanics, yet they're one of the top companies its market, same thing can be said for FPS or rpg (with rpg maker).
is it really worth it to lean everything there is to gamedev instead of perfecting one specific field?

>>187926824
It's ridiculous how no one has come out with a skateboarding game to replace THPS5

>>187926226
How is that even possible? There's many genres that are similar enough to each other that even if you are specialized in one genre you could still make good games in other genres.

>>187926894
Probably a ridiculous amount of animation / motion capture for a couple guys in their garage.

>>187926226
I think it's pretty much required at this point.
The market is so full of mediocre games that you gotta do something to stand out.

>>187926713
I'd like a sort of a ladder of increasingly complex games to make in sequence. Don't worry mate

>>187926894
That requires 3D, which is already a huge barrier to indie devs. And making skateboarding physics is pretty damn hard. And making fun levels for skateboarding is pretty damn hard. And making a good camera that follows the action is pretty damn hard.

>>187926894
That looks like it would be way more difficult to make than the average indie game. Look at how simple they usually are.

How big would the audience for city/village builders with realistic disease propagation be?

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I don't know why I made this. My game doesn't even have warp drives in it. Just felt like working on something different.

>>187926808
>you also have to give up on this idea of making this "break-through new game everybody wants".
Where the fuck did you even get this idea from? I don't give a shit if people play my game. My genre is niche as fuck anyway. I just want to make a game which I like, but it's all already been done. There is nothing fresh you can do anymore, excpet you are a literal genius perhaps.

>>187927095
My impression is that people enjoy city builders for being creative/comfy.

Just found out that in UE4 it's not possible to just make a variable and access it from somewhere else. You have to jump through some retarded hoops making a connecting "blueprint interaction" or some shit between blueprints.

I'm quitting UE4 and moving on to something else. Any advice? I messed around with scratch which I found to work very intuitively and I could focus on the logic instead of the 10000 hoops the engine made me jump through. Someone already recommended godot yesterday.

>>187926996
Ok, then
tic tac toe: requires only transferring one number for moves
simple turn based strategy: requires transferring more complex data
Then it doesn't matter which real time game you tackle next because you can spend a lot of time making real time netcode better.

>>187927286
Point taken.

>>187926894
https://twitter.com/Der_Kevin

This exists, but the dev seems like one of those memesters who never actually stick with a project

>>187926925
the perfect example would be rts, a lot of people can code any other game but will fail making an rts mainly due complexity and other criteria, on a lower scale, you can make a the greatest fps yet fail to make even a decent rpg, not due but technical side, but due balancing and concepts.

>>187927291
The process for getting variables between places is pretty much the same for blueprints and written code.

>>187927220
fuck that looks so good
what is this madei n?

>>187927220
nice!

>>187927291
That's normal program design. You don't want to be able to change and access any variable from anywhere because it makes your code a disaster to work with - especially if you're working in a team.

Just get a reference to the object owning the variable and grab it through that.

>>187927286
the thing i like the most about playing city builders is to build efficient infrastructures etc.
that feeling you get when you've build something that's cost efficient, productive and doesn't take up much space (e.g. in Anno 1404 or Factorio)
i'd call it "creating order"-porn.
i also like objectives. (e.g. people want food, you have to build infrastructure and production to get it) or (trade routes are under attack, build ships to protect trade ships).
without objectives i wouldn't play city builders, building a fancy city is not enough for me.
i like depth and multi-tasking. but i don't like useless tasks. (e.g. the henchman in anno 1404, every 5 minutes you have to click on a blue outlined man just so he doesn't burn anything in your city, he's coming again and again and again and it's just stupid and boring, like an every repeating exact same task)

>>187918970
>>187919674
I really like that character, his run is fucking hilarious

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>been vomiting a ton of variables, functions, and macros all over my player controller blueprint
>find out about Game Mode, Game State, Player State, and function libraries
I can DO ANYTHING AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>187923512
http://store.steampowered.com/app/424250/Balrum/

I ran across this a while back.
It looks like there's "more", I'm not sure how much "more"

>>187927743
>Just get a reference to the object owning the variable and grab it through that.
This is what I've been trying. When I try to set the variable. It bitches about needing something plugged into "self", which when hovered over says it points to the animation blueprint where the variable is. So what does it need my input for then? It already points to the variable, so I don't see the problem.

but okay, I plug in a cast to animation blueprint. It starts bitching about an object. What is the object? Is the character blueprint the object? Is the animation blueprint the object? Is the character mesh the object? Nowhere is it specified what the object is, where to get it, or what data it needs to contain.

>>187923512
As someone who has played Kenshi, you can't afford not to play it. Even in its current state, it was one of the most engrossing gaming experiences I've had across 20 years.

>>187927638
Thanks anon. It's Unity.

>>187927698
Thanks anon.

Post-apocalyptic settlement builder but not the shit Fallout 4 kind

More of a RTS kind

>>187909142
Some people are better at game design than others.

Different people approach game design differently.

Even in the professional world you have to JLMG. Every game will have weak points because there are limited resources to go back and polish and work things out and you need to keep moving forward towards release. Sometimes things are much more labor intensive to improve upon than it is for you to dream up and developers need to pick and choose where and what they focus on and what they decide to keep "adequate" because it's not the priority of what they're trying to do.

How do you guys even manage to conciliate gamedev with college and/or work?

>>187929919
RimWorld

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Hey it's the 4CC /agdg/ team guy here. Our team has been quietly meming it up in invitationals over the summer and building up some experience. If you don't know what this about here's a recent match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp-0Q0zxGgc

Anyway this post is just to let you know that before the """serious""" games start again in the fall there's gonna be a casual match between /agdg/ and new team /indie/, the please play our game bowl. They've already shown interest on this one.

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//agdg/ is the place for info on how the team operates, videos of recent matches, and where and how to submit content if you want some exposure on the team.

This is a casual call to interest post. Don't worry it's a stand alone post, there won't be a million periodic posts like last time.

The teams established, it's funny to watch play. It's all good now.

>>187930124
Being a F A I L U R E of a student

>>187930124
That's my secret. I'm NEET. And also have no discipline, so I'm shit at gamedev too.

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Good news (for those who still remember this game, I posted very little about this), we should be able to submit it for Demo Day. Kry is working on the last few things to add and polish, and then we will work on making and testing dungeon rooms.
For those who don't know, this is an online co-op game that plays like the top down Zelda games, especially Tri Force Heroes. The reason why I haven't posted progress for so long is because most of the time we were testing stuff online so there wasn't anything to actually show.

How do I into clean communication without tight coupling?

Changing health bars when the player takes damage, shaking the camera when an explosion is close by, etc.

Do I just say fuck it and use singletons everywhere?

>>187928732
>It already points to the variable
No, it is aware the variable conceptually exists in that class, but it doesn't actually point to an instance of it.

If your variables are in an animation blueprint then you can get it from the character mesh with 'Get anim instance'

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Will this book teach me to become a yesdev?

>>187930181
>my comfy pirate is playing soccer now
Hmm, this makes me wonder how hard it would be to make a small soccer game.

>>187930181
Wouldn't that be a /vg/ team?

>>187930181
4cc stopped being fun 3 years ago

>>187930515
yes it would, these are offcial /vg/ league games if you follow that.

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_9_Friendlies

>>187930330
Have the player object own the health value and have the healthbar object see the player object and ask for the value when it updates?
Why are you talking about coupling and singletons if you can't figure out simple shit like this?

>>187918402
>there are like 10 things that converge as the "crosshair"
At least hide the mouse already my man.

>>187930369
Funnily enough that did work and proved that the rest of my logic was correct. But why the fuck does the mesh contain the animation blueprint? Where can I get a hierarchy list of what is contained in what?

>>187930549
the /vg/ league is a lot more fun than 4cc on average.

>>187927220
This would look better if you stretch the FOV out to some ridiculous number in the background while you're in the wormhole.

>>187930702
Because it's an animation blueprint, it's for controlling skeletal meshes and you assign it to the skeletal mesh.

>>187930590
>have your UI know about entities and their game data
>why are you asking questions about coupling

Jesus Christ anon.

Million dollar idea:
Racing game with multiplayer and VR support.
You'll thank me later.

>>187931034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mETJHs7NP4M

>having a useless copyright header in every file
*pukes*

>>187927220
looks good but at the end what I assume to be lights from cities seem to moving faster than the rotation of the planet

>>187930330
I don't know about other engines, but in Godot I use signals mostly. The player emits a signal when their health changes, when they are hit, when they fire a gun, etc. The relevant scripts will connect to those signals so they can update when the signal is emitted.

Of course the UI and other scripts still needs to know about the player in some ways, so it can connect to signals and get some information. I don't know if that can be avoided. But at least the player object doesn't have to care about the UI or any other scripts at all.

>>187931985
I haven't used Godot. Are signals just like function pointers / delegates that fire or do they go through some global messaging system?

>>187932463
I don't really know, Godot is the only engine I've used for an extended period of time. Here's an example though.

player.connect("health_changed", self "_on_health_changed")

will connect the player's "health_changed" signal to the function "_on_health_changed". Any other object could also connect to the same signal. The player doesn't care which objects are connected to the signal, all it does is emit the signal "health_changed" and anything that is connected to it will be called.

>>187932463
it's a local message system per object that will call any subscribed method, basically it's just a dictionary of methods that will call them whenever the key is requested, there is a global system however that is controlled via groups, you do
get_tree().call_nodes_in_group(0, "group", "method")
without getting into the trouble of connecting (or subscribing) objects to the emitter

>>187930181
Seems like harmless fun. Just don't let it distract from game dev, anon.

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>>187930940
Actually I think I just figured out that the parent class that is needed for the "object" connector of a "cast to <whatever>" is in the top right of the screen when in the blueprint with the variable in it. Pic related.

>>187933474
That's one option, though it doesn't need to be the immediate parent, most things inherit from UObject so you can cast them through multiple levels.

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is there any chance for my multiplayer FPS?

I thought Battleborn was a misstep but it seems even well made shooters by big companies can't find an audience.

>>187930181
Sure, let's do it.

>>187934160
if you have to ask on 4chan's /agdg/ then the chances for your multiplayer fps are negative

who here doesnt even play games anymore?

I like short non grinding games that have a story to tell, which is why I enjoyed Owl Boy. I want to make a game like that but I hope it doesn't take me 9 years

>>187934889
I play exclusively rhythm games and play visual novels now, I'm searching for other games that make me give a shit but can't.

>>187934889
I only play the new 2hus and Final Fantasy games
I am the legendary super plebian

>>187931024
well either entities know about ui elements or the other way around or you have some kind of messaging system.

>>187934160
Maybe you could try scheduled matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-sbypLOjZM

>>187934889
I play a lot of new games but only for a short amount of time. Maybe 2-3 hours before I'm done with it.

>>187932852
>>187933224
Thanks anons. I need to find something not string based, isn't that a huge pain in the ass to debug?

>>187907246
Who thought a 3-month long jam would be a good idea?

>tfw no one is making max payn clone with cool gunfu
fucking wasted potential

>>187936261
Why are you not doing it?