Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Someone locate Maiev and put her into the game please thanks

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DAILY REMINDER THAT 27.07.2017 WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED AS A DARK DAY IN ORCISH HISTORY.

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Blizzard really fucked up with Garrosh's representation in Heroes of the Storm. His abilities and role do not fit his character fantasy in any way. His kit should have been for another character.

Yes, he is fun to play. But he should have been a bruiser, like Artanis, but with burst and less focus on defense and with an ability to force 1v1.

>what Blizzard devs did
Hey guys we plan to release Garrosh somewhere in summer 2017
Fast forward summer 2017
Alright guys just attach some existing kit to Garrosh and release him. And dont forget to make a legendary skin + bike with a bunch of tints

>Diamond 5
>Possession Sylvanas keeps split pushing all game long and ends up with 9 deaths
This is a joke right?

>>187733164
No.

MMR freefall, you will end up lower.

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Post you're player level

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Post some brightwing before that panda girl comes

Is Varian only good in a coordinated team? I feel like I'm either not playing him as good as I could, or the team does not take advantage of CS or Taunt enough

>>187734405
Never count on your team to follow-up unless your target is already out of position and targetable. Going in trying to get key targets will lose you more games than just picking off who ever is closest because bunga team has half a lobe of functioning brain.

Ded hero
Ded game

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>>187734120
Have an old image I had saved in my phone

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>>187736487
unded hero
unded game

Anyone have that webm of pole dancing dreadlord jaina?

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>>187736717

Blackheart removed when, I genuinely enjoyed fucking Hanamura more than I do this dung pile.

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When is the slutty Jaina skin coming out? I want to masturbate and play at the same time while killing shit.

>>187739465
like, tuesday

>>187734405
I'd say that's how he always felt
but nine out of ten times if your team doesn't follow up on a good taunt then it wasn't a good taunt
ping the nigga you going in on or make sure they're sufficiently out of position

>>187739465
>The first Jaina molesting Sylv image was pure gold
>Now litch jaina groping sylv is here
Pure diamond

>vs Genji, Medivh, and Varian
>24/7 protected
>still win just timing my calamity teleports in between all that shit

FEEL THE POWER OF THE ARCANE

just lost a garden of terror game because the retarded fuck on abathur took snake ulti, never body soaked and didnt q me 3 times if not more for 100% chance on takedowns. another downs syndrome piece of shit played cassia when we needed a single target burst char & suffered from a soak xp syndrome & didnt understand that when you kill an enemy you can destroy the towers. but im the one who lost us the game, oh yeah, all because i said some mean things in chat

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>>187736717

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>>187740827
Nice blog

Btw this you???

>>187740939
What level of autism does one need to posses to be like this.

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>>187741392
Its this guy >>187740827

He posts this time every day for attention and because he can't keep his autistic fingers still for a single moment

>>187741681
No I know, they might as well have a name on with how blatantly retarded they type and come off, I just wonder if they were beaten as a child or what.

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>>187741928
Probably. This guy and the "over 9000 hours silence" guy are something else.

Truly next level mental damage.

>Malthael is a hard counter to Diablo, Azmodan, and Leoric
>but isn't amazing against most of the nephalem
I get it

>>187743995
Nigga he's a counter to everyone with HP excepy Murky

>>187744186
>trying to play Malth into Lunara, Valla or any other ranged carry with mobility
have I told you the definition of suffering

>>187744186
Actually, Murky's pretty awful against Malthael. The mark lasts longer than the bubble, and he can kill the puffer with two autos and a Q. His own autos and Qs are more than enough to kill Murky before any significant damage is done.

But anyone with long distance easy escapes or good poke can ruin him. Malthael suffers when he's kept at bay. So Valla, Nazeebo, and Li Ming are not his favorites. Kharazim can make an easy getaway, too. Sonya can take him face to face, and even manage to beat him in a duel with the right talents and behavior.
He's good against Jojo though.

>>187744264
Does it involve an axe to the face?

>he doesn't select Dva announcer for every game
I honestly feel bad for you desu

>>187746282
I'd stop playing if I had to use it, she's genuinely the worst character personality in Ogrewatch.

>>187746282
>He doesn't use Gazelow Garrosh and Illidan
Fucking pleb

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>>187746282
>>187746635
>Being able to hear game sounds over glorious acid trance
Toppest of lels tbqh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZs8VQ6LxsY

>>187747473
every fucking time I see this image I go to YT to listen to that song

>when you single-handedly hold the line and keep your team from losing
>no one votes mvp for you

>>187736487
What did you expect, it's too casual. All the hardcore gamers are playing overwatch.

>>187747473
I thought only the tweaked out Eastern European drug dealer from my neighborhood and his 16 year old girlfriend listened to this shit.

>>187740827
Yet you keep playing ranked. Why are you doing this, what do you expect to change. It's a bad game mode and it isn't getting any better as more people leave the game.

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>>187748395
>overwatch
makin me laff

Shit brainlets say
>Nazeebo isn't a mage, he's a specialist

>>187749132
There are no mages in hots

>>187749132
>Kael'thas, Gul'dan and Jaina aren't mages, they're Assassins

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>>187749237

>>187749132
ban genji

>>187749313
>Gul'dan

You should've picked Medivh, you big dummy

>>187749030
Overwatch is skill based, you must have spatial awareness as well as aim.
hots is about picking one of the op heroes and pressing qwer not necessarily in that order.

>>187748395
>hardcore gamers
>playing babs first fps
hm

>>187749856
>Traditional fps
Have to be good at aiming
>Overwatch
Aiming is not enough, you must use your abilities sparingly and together with your team. It's two gameplay styles in one game.

how do i build xul? I get that he is a lane clearer + ganker but i dont really know what to get

a lot of his skills seem good

>>187750018
If you think aiming was all the pro Quake/Unreal players had to be good at then you've never really understood a high level match of those types of games.

>>187750018
By the light how can one child be so mislead. Where have the elders gone wrong. Blizzard look at what you have created.

>>187749773
Spoken like a true bronzie.
>implying overshit has hero diversity in competitive play
Dont make me laff

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Why isn't there a Naxxramas map with multiple bosses and 4 lanes?

Missed opportunity

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2.0 shine has finally worn off for me

just doing my daily quests feels like a chore, see ya in a few months i guess

>>187752803
because they only just finally busted out the kel'thuzad
maybe in a few months when things die down again

see>>187753149
I'll always find a way to enjoy the game but everybody I know just comes back for a few days when a new hero/event comes out then back to their "main" game

Why isnt there a 3 lane Dark portal map Orcs vs humans themed where creeps walk through the portal & you can disconnect enemy lanes with the objective. Fel reaver/pitlord boss

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>>187750018
>This is what lolfaggots who switched to babby's first fps actually believe

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how to solo carry as Sylvanas in HL?

>>187754020
>how do I solo carry
what do people mean by this
are you expecting a "just do X" or something

>>187750943
i mean overwatch isn't a good competitive game but that doesn't mean that hots strategy suddenly requires thought either
you can literally just follow a step-by-step checklist for every map, there's no deep strategy at all

>>187754020
pick her on appropriate maps. when obj is pushing wall put trait on both towers. When obj is pushing fort/keep put trait on tower and also fort/keep. This way you will have your obj take as least damage as possible.
>tfw both fort and keep down with first punisher

>>187754020
dont be a splitpushing retard, stay with team and play like a generic range dps
you solo carry as sylvanas by herding your retard teammates into a 5man push whenever you have an objective or hero-numbers advantage
particularly on boe or shrines

>>187754020
Don't do it

>>187754020
You solo carry in this game by playing mechanically and strategically better than the other 9 players in the match.

Hero doesn't matter.

>>187750472
>>187750472
>>187750472
>>187750472
>>187753983
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Jaina is cute right guys?

>>187750472
Hes a bad ganker dont play him that way

Since his rework he can have a ton of paths in his talents and still work fine. Skeleton build is fine for noobs, your goal is to get skeletons up in one lane and then rotate down to the next one and repeat. His purpose in teamfights is to just debiliate so ypur team can so the heavy lifting. W and Q builds both work fine in teamfights, but W youll need more support with to pull off.

Is it me, or is Overwatch underrepresented in this game?

>>187757178
Just you

>>187757178
Definitely you.

>>187757178
>dva
>tracer
>zarya
>music nigger
you got 3 heroes + 1 thief, and you're still complaining?

>>187757609
Just because Tracer likes snatch doesn't mean she's a thief

>>187757178
(You)

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>>187757178

>>187741681
>event that could theoretically be conceived as a minor misplay by team at worst
>TIME TO THROW THE GAME REEEEEE

Remember kids, perfectionism is the devil.

>>187758007
The future is doomed, younglings are so retarded.

>>187759890
t. 22 year old

>>187759890
Goodnight, alt-right ;)

>>187760091
Uuuuuugh. Cringemaster.
>>187759987
Yup, even if I could return to my prime age of 22 three years back, I'd still be better than an underage faggot :^)

just lost quick match as kael to a nova with a really gay name SkyIsMyLimiT holy fuck. such cringy name. anyway it had nothing to do with it being nova. im rlly good kael & kill all like blood elf king, but we lost a 30 min QM because of the dumb useless fuck on sylvanas who decided to go core during -5 instead of taking top shrine that she is 1 sec of movement from. enemies had 30 secs respawn time left, i took bot shrine and this fucker went core saw that he cant solo it and only then went top shrine. fuck if he went there frm start dragon would be ours with noo way for them to interrupt it and even a 5man def wouldnt save their core at that time.

i genuinely hope that the player behind sylvanas no matter who they are a dumb 10 yr old kid or a handicapped useless sack of shit chained to a wheel chair for the rest of their life suffer from one of the worst methods of death imaginable. and that the nova player is then forced to eat all their rotten intestines shit and maggots, just cause of their gay name SkyIsMyLimiT WTF??? u are a low ranked piece of shit why would u name urself such gay shit

>>187760814
nobody gives a shit you obnoxious euro cunt

>>187760814
thanks for your blog
where do i subscribe?

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anybody understand what this means?

>>187761091
nobody cares you obnoxious euro cunt

>>187761024
depend on cntext

"i have shit siege dmg"
"i have op siege dmg"

Your fellow players reported you for abusive language multiple times.


Due to these player reports, we have silenced your Heroes of the Storm account until 2018 January 05 23:12 UTC

wow

>>187761959
talk shit get hit ;^3

>>187761959
your """""""""""""""""""""'fellow""""""""""""""""""""""" players

>>187761959
it's our duty to purge niggers from our game

>>187732884
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It's time to stop

>>187762148
>>187762245
>>187762459
is there a decent bot for this game that doesn't require mouse input? i need to level some heroes for my smurf

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can we agree that Brightwing better than that panda girl?
but not as good as lucio since he is meta in both games.

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>disable allied chat
>only friends can message me

I just made my hotS time 1000% better.

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>>187763651
Bitch what?

>>187763902
How do you play that you get enough messages that is actually a problem? I've been salt messaged like twice over 300 games.

>>187764712
1 in 300 sounds about right, but when it happens it's the typical "lol ur silver ur a faggot lrn 2 play" after a loss, and then they block me so I cannot point out to them that they're in the same MMR tier as me.

Basically, there is zero possibility that a message from a non-friend results in a positive interaction, so I disabled it. Same with allied chat.

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It's another "I need one more win to finish my quest so I naturally go on a 5-game loss streak" episode.

>>187763651

both muppets are shit.

I know it might not be the optimal talent tree but owl Tyrande with the CDR talent on 13 is FUN

provided you hit 2-3 heroes per owl
you can spam them again and again and again and it costs 0 mana

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>>187763651
No

>>187763651
ofc
pandas belong into the trash

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>>187763651
Not today, frog.

>>187769845
Take it back.

more pandas when

>>187769982
I could see them possibly doing Taran Zhu further down the line.

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>mfw won 10 games in a row
oh no

>play zeebo
>feel useless
>win
>check stats
>24-3
oh

Do you have any retarded nicknames for heroes? When playing with my friends once, someone called Lunara "Deerpucci" and now it's the only thing we call her. Same with calling Samuro "My Brade". Of course, Leoric is always Leorky.

>inb4 having friends

>>187770403
what about the jade bitch from hearthstone

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>>187736717

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Sometimes QM isn't too bad

Stukov seems like a nice guy.

>>187772107
Jaina will always be "Vajaina" to me.

>>187772198
I feel like they'd probably figure they're too similar.

>>187772538
Yeah, that's another of our nicknames. Heh.

>>187772107
I always call Murky "that stupid fucking fish" if that counts for anything.

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>decide to chill and play infest autismpush zagara
>always get put with another specialist
>some-fucking-how get beaten on siege damage by a couple thousand damage by the other specialist or some retard arm-build stukov every time

>>187773072
>Not having Azmodan as your autismpush hero of choice so you can top all stats while having 0 deaths and feel like you contributed even though you didn't do shit all match

>>187773226
I like the comfort of Nydus letting me autismpush forever instead of having to back for mana like Azmo.

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picrel FUCKING WHEN?

i wouldnt mind some joke heroes like ETC instead of no names like fucking lunara probius brightwing morales.

pretty sure they had ogre ninja planned for blizzard dota or whatever the fuck they called it

https://loreofthestorm.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/dota7.png?w=639&h=352

>tauren marine with a machine gun/shotgun
>fel orc marine

dunno id like some pure crossover heroes. like imagine some protoss death knight, or some protoss witch doctor/crusader from diablo

>>187772107
I call Murky "turkey" and Dehaka "dehockey" and random shit. Part od it is because I am not a native English speaker so saying things a few times in my goofy ass accent just ends up sticking.

>>187773017
We do that too. Especially funny since one of us is a Murky fanatic and we always win when he's playing him.

>>187772107
>Leoric
"Boner King"
"Baller King"

>Raynor
"Jimmy"

>>187772107
I think you can figure out "Slutvanas" and "Azmofat"

>>187772418
>die once

>>187772107
>Alarak
Alaraco
spanish pun

>>187777205
That sounds like the common name for some exotic Brazilian bird.

>>187777376
Actually it's a way to call a guy who overreacts for everythings

>>187772107
I call Diablo Big D

>>187777764
Me and my friend call him Dibbles.

I can't recall the last time we had a hero on ptr for more than a week before release.

Another fucking week for Kel-Thu-FREAKIN-ZAD

>>187777938
He's literally only been on the PTR for like two days.

>>187759126
this happened on my team in HL today! ranked is so fun!

>>187772107
Diablo > Literally Satan
Dehaka > Big dakka
Gazlowe > Clamps

also these two

>>187772538
>Jaina will always be "Vajaina" to me
>>187775902
>Raynor "Jimmy"

Why is Genji so fun?

>>187750018
>this is what overwatch players actually believe.

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>>187767845

Say that to my face frand and not online, and see what happens.

>>187772107
Auriel = Angeltits
Chen = Fat Illidan
Chromie = Fucking midget
Dehaka = Dakka
Diablo = Big D
Gazlowe = Don't call him a goblin that besmirches the good name of the hebrew people, or jew.
Greymane = The Knot
Illidan = Skinny Chen
Johanna = JoJo
Kerrigan = Barbie Crotch
Li-Ming = Ming Lee
Lunara = Deer Pussy
Nazeebo = AIEEEAAAAEAAAAA, or PRRRA
Probius = Beepboop
Rehgar = Doggo
Sonya = Bigger D
Zagara = Zaggat
Zul'jin = fucking asshole jesus fucking christ STAY BEHIND THE FUCKING TANK WHAT IS FUCKING WRONG WITH YOU

>>187756665
The cutest

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only 90s kids remember

I do not deserve to be 4 games in with 0 wins.

How the fuck did Greymane go BACK to Q build? Everyone used to shit on it after the initial nerf (since on release it was amazing) saying it is completely unplayable forever.

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You know what to do. The light is watching.

>type "noob" into allied chat
That will show them. Now that I displayed my superior tactical analysis of the situation, our victory is all but ensured.

>>187768073
>qm tyrande against samuro
>enemy team groups up to push fort and you get to spam 0-cd owls into all of them

>>187784051
>You know what to do
betray our closest allies and join forced with an undead?

>>187773072
if you stay in one lane all game of course you're gonna lose in siege damage compared to someone who can rotate and waveclear two lanes like zul or xeebo or even kaelthas

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>Matched with leavers
>Do infinitely better than with regular team mates
What did Blizzard mean by this

>>187784515

Someone needs to edit that image with Sylv as the one in Uther's place. Makes way more sense.

>>187784940
idk but every leaver game I've played was because I dodged a shitpick in placements

>>187783960
Q built had left? I never stopped using it

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>>187783228
Reminds me of the bees

>>187785274
Yeah, for like a year people were all inner beast build with a lot of worgen talents.

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>>187785345

>>187783960
probably when his shitty ult was replaced with cursed bullet and he suddenly became good enough to pick outside of just dive comps

q build is not too great for dive which used to be the only thing grey was picked for back when his only good ult was GFTT

>have 20k gold
>torn on what to spend it on

Xul and stukov i've had fun with when they were on free rotation but still missing a bunch of the cheap heroes like anub.

>>187785938
You're eventually going to buy them all, so just don't spend your gold until you really want to play a certain hero. And when you save up enough you buy them all at once.

That way you save up on any potential price reductions and open yourself up to playing any of them whenever you want.

>>187785938
Don't buy heroes you didn't try out, and don't buy sub-10k gold heroes because you will get most of them from loot boxes.

Unless you REALLY want them now, just work on farming gold and loot boxes until you leveled everyone to lv 5.

Ranged DPS players are the WORST

>>187786549
t. melee cuck

>>187785658
That would explain it and fit the timing.

>>187786724
>the guys that you rely on to protect you, make plays for you, and spoonfeed you kills because you're too weak and vulnerable to stay alive and get anything accomplished by yourself
>cucks

Get lost pal, you need us way more than we need you

>>187731737
>think to myself "I'll just play some ranked until I lose cause I'm kinda bored"
>proceed to win 6 games in a row
n..nani? I know I'm not good enough for that to happen, what gives?

So how is medic after the changes? Better or worse?

On a scale from lili to Uther where she stands?

>>187789420
likely weaker but you can heal for a similar or longer duration as old-mora if you take the AA talent at 1 and have an enemy tank to autoattack constantly in teamfights

>>187789420
Worse.

Healing went from 40.5s to empty at level one or 60+/infinite seconds to empty at 20 (not accounting for regen globes or tapping), to 16.5s empty at all levels, with 20s to recharge energy.

Morales lost scouting drone (anti-invis), mule (excellent utility talent), cleanse (!!!!), automated block (one charge of 50 armor vs phys every 5 secs up to 3 stacks), spell shield (75 armor vs spell every 3 seconds, useful for anti-burst), trauma trigger was nerfed from 25 armor when something would knock you below 50% on a 20s cd, to 30 armor *only when you get damaged below 40%* on a 1min cd. Caduceus 2.0 was nerfed. Utility talents like irradiate (burning rage on whatever you're healing, not super useful but could be used for things like tumors/mines) or preventative care are gone. Medivac hp was nerfed from 1500+scaling to 950+scaling.

Most of what remains are either strict sidegrades or downgrades. She gained no additional survivability. Her trait rework is a worse version of couples therapy.

Her 'double charges of safeguard' is now worse than 'get a second free cast of safeguard' because it no longer stacks *and* it functionally has a longer cooldown.

Her default build will be
level 1: Caduceus feedback (regain energy when aaing, when aaing heroes get 4) slows your energy use to 2/sec while in fights and aaing
level 4: blast shield / trauma trigger (survivability talents, both worse than previous existing)
level 7: vanadium vs stuns, prolonged vs anything else
level 10: stim if aaer, otherwise medivac
level 13: these are all bad, if you go blast shield take second opinion, if you go anything else take system shock
level 16: extended care (makes q same range as w), nothing else is good.
level 20: If stim, take stim upgrade, otherwise caduceus or calling medivac from base to get allies to you.

She's a better solo heal than tass / tyrande, but arguably worse than lili now (yes, I'm fucking serious). She doesn't compare to rehgar, lucio or uther.

>>187790595
No, you cant. New morales heals for ~4600 at level 1, Old morales healed for ~16000 at level 1 before going dry not accounting for well or globes.

https://heroeshearth.com/b/chaosos/read/math-of-the-storm-patch-273-chromie-and-lt-morales-reworks/

this tries to put a positive spin on it, but really she was nerfed in almost every area simultaneously. Healing was nerfed, survivability was nerfed, utility was destroyed. She was butchered. Expect her winrates to tank and people to fucking loath her (except in double support where she may be okay).

>>187790927
>Caduceus Feedback provides a way to more quickly regenerate energy or prolong an active healing beam. Lt. Morales' attack speed is 1 attack per second, meaning that against heroes her energy consumption is reduced to 2 per second (allowing for 50 seconds of uptime)

>>187790621
blast shield isn't worse
against dive teams with low poke it will let her stack up a shield for 40% of maxhp, especially with other grenade talents

>>187791040
He wasn't accounting for any talents, and since caduceus 2.0 was basically mandatory she would either heal for roughly the same amount of time *without needing to aa constantly* or she'd heal for longer (caduceus 2.0 is basically infinite healing) providing 4.75 + 8 mana per second while her heal only costs 15-19/sec with a pool of 710+mana. If you got a regen globe, tapped or simply didnt need to heal for a few seconds you would be back to full in no time.

You still have a worse baseline and worse total duration.

>>187791317
Old trauma trigger / automated block were better. And you really don't want other grenade talents unless you *have* to take them (13 tier). It is a sidegrade in the most positive light you could ever portray it, or worse than what she already had.

>>187791413
i woudln't consider level 20 talents to be super important to the viability of a hero

the new medivac thing at 20 seems pretty good though
combo with a kelthuzad or a malthael with instarespawn talents and you get to fight 6v5, or just let 4 teammates b for mana and then cart them back to the map

>>187791757
>the new medivac thing at 20 seems pretty good though
You can't get into it though. So if you call it down and then recall you still have to pony your way to where you called it.

Why is widowmakers the meta pick when pandemic does such ridiculous damage?

>>187791931
but morales doesn't need to B
she regenerates energy, and she can heal herself for free just by putting her Q on a fullhp allied hero or creep

>>187792061
Safer to recall with your team and then all catch a dropship back to the same spot. or In theory it would be if you could get into it.

>>187792194
you can take the reinforcements thing even if you have stim though, like with the death-mosh on ETC

also you can use it mid-fight for heroes like kelthuzad or byebye chromie

>>187792360
While true, it doesn't change that morales being unable to get into it herself is inconvenient, especially because it runs on the same CD as dropship. I'm not trying to say "THIS IS LITERALLY THE ONLY WAY THIS SHOULD BE USED", I'm saying that "I can see this being *A* way to use it, and it's inconvenient that it doesn't work this way".

I wish there was a special queue that was accessible only to adults after a high-scoring IQ test and you'd get permabanned from it if you shittalk in chat once.

/tips fedora

>>187774910
I love calling his ulti Shrimp Storm. It's way funnier than the real name.

>>187782767
>Zul'Jin

more like "unplayable in quickmatch unless you get lucky or go Guillotine build and even in the latter case it's debatable"

>>187792360
>byebye Chromie
>demonic circle Gul'Dan
>Diablo after dying with 100 souls
>Malth/Kel with the instant respawns

oh my god those are all fucking disgusting

>>187759126
When the core is open and the enemy team is dead, and I ping core but you back or kill mercenaries, don't expect me to follow your calls.

>>187761024
He called you a cunt.

>>187770652
You know what is coming now.

>>187772107
>Azmodan
Potato
>Anub'arak
Big bug
>Lunara
Doepussy

>>187797164
what does that even have to do with what I said, that was my only post on the subject
I don't care who listens to who, it's just extremely counterproductive to throw games over suboptimal macro choices like this was Dota "rubberbanding with ridiculous power spikes" 2

>>187798089
The throw happened during the initial misplay. No matter what you do afterwards will not bring you the win.
So might as well stop playing.

did you just complain about another game's rubberbanding/comeback mechanics being too strong in a thread for heroes of the storm

>>187798089
If you don't think HotS is one of the most rubber-band-y games in the genre, you are sadly mistaken.

>>187798410
t. shit bronzie who can't take advantage of his lead

>>187800557
t. shit bronzie who gives up when the enemy has a 3 level advantage

>>187800693
I never give up when losing and I never let up when winning exactly because I know how swingey this game is, so your accusation is just baseless rubbish.
Good people don't fear it because they're confident in their ability to lever their advantage, thefact that you hate it means you're a brainlet that deserves his losses because you're fucking up despite your advantages.

>>187798324
>>187798410
because in heroes of the storm you don't auto-lose AFTER the comeback because the enemy team picked 3+ lategame heroes and you didn't
and shit like Butcher/Naz doesn't even compare so my point's still perfectly valid, there's a difference between "spikes hard lategame" and "can legitimately 1v5 with no issue lategame against competent players because you take less damage than D.Va with ablative versus Tracer while lifestealing like crazy, sometimes hitting multiple targets at once, sometimes teleporting all over the place, and oh yeah I kill your tankiest hero in 3 hits, thanks for winning the first 30 minutes so I could win one fight and become an unstoppable meat grinder idiots"

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>when the game takes a whopping three minutes to load the map because some jackass in the lobby has a shitty connection or something

>>187804720
This is a known griefing method. If you alt tab during the loading it takes ages to load and people do it to annoy others.

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Enemy Chogall's face when he sees our quick meme team with Tychus, Raynor, and Kharazim

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>quick meme

>>187813640
wow you guys must suck

>>187812094
Not that threatening really. Yes you have a lot of giantkilling damage, he has an unstoppable healing surging first to get away and then spam bombs at you.

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>>187772107
Auriel - dumb shit bitch, voiced by nigger, refuses to help IMPERIVS
Brightwing - pretty nice helpful animal
Cassia - literally SJW
Chromie - cute but actually a dragon so disgusting
D.Va - gook bitch SJW superhero gamer girl fantasy
Jaina - piece of shit super traitor bitch, helps kill her own father, ignores Scourge in Stratholme, fucks with dragons
Johanna - extremely disgusting woman trying to be a man, SJW hairstyle
Kerrigan - piece of shit super traitor bitch who thinks her revenge should matter
Li Li - nice girl I would drink her tea and say thanks li li
Li-Ming - fucking disgusting gook shit bitch thinks too highly of herself + mega slut
Lt. Morales - nice woman I guess but seems like she is overweight on her portrait, should take care of her health
Lunara - disgusting shit bitch degenerate supertrash also thinks she is the best, cause she is the literal who daughter of Cenarius
Lucio - gay nigger tranny DJ
Nova - super disgusting race mixing piece of shit, all she does is fart and get fucked
Sgt. Hammer - same as Lt. Morales
Sonya - would suck her cock
Sylvanas - the worst bitch ever disgusting pile of shit thinks her unlife should matter
Tracer - most subhuman char ever, lesbian pile of shit, disgusting body, haircut and personality
Tyrande - down's syndrome piece of shit, 10k+ yrs old but is super fucking dumb bimbo, nigger accent
Valeera - super shit slut fucked by orcs, disgusting personality
Valla - ok I guess but shit voice, should talk less this fucking bitch
Zagara - nice pleasant mother but really disgusting alien freak
Zarya - same as Johanna

>>187815941
never noticed, why is lucio in there?

>>187816267
>Tranny

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im ready for KT

Forgive my dumbness but what character would you put controlling a science vessel

>>187816954
Bill Nye

>>187761959
>tfw I have had nights where I've repeatedly called people subhuman trash, retards, and shitskins yet have NEVER been silenced

Probably because I only do this when I'm partied with friends and the 1-2 reports over 3-4 games mean nothing.

>>187817445
They recognize that most people who do this are just having a bad night and are on tilt. They only silence the people who do this every night.

>>187772107
The Butcher - The Brapper

>>187772107
>>187772538
>>187773017
>>187774312
>>187775902
>>187776242
>>187777205
>>187777764
>>187779514
>>187782767
>>187797871
>>187815941
>>187817609


/r/heroesofthestorm

>>187816919
tomatoes

>>187816954
Me.

>>187817609
That would be stitches you dumbfuck lebbitor.

>>187816919
I have 30 chests get fukt nerd

>>187794142
>Zul'jin is bad in X
Zul'jin can stomp all team compositions. You either go AA rapemachine 3000 or if they have blinds you go mage build and do KT levels of dmg. Zul'jin is hard to master but can solo carry like Alarak.

>>187817845
It would, but the name came from one of my friends who was jumped on by a Butcher and called him Brapper while flustered. So the group I play with started calling him that.

>>187818036
>Having IRL friends that play vidya
I can't understand how people have neckbeard vidya playing friends. For me hots is a secret guilty pleasure and just like smoking I only do it when alone at night and lie about it saying I was watching a movie or something. My lawyer friends wouldn't understand such a childish hobby.

>>187818210
>being this ashamed of what you do
I give you 3 years max until you kill yourself

>>187818210
This. if i played CSGO or Dota 2 at least i wouldnt be ashamed to tell. Games like hots, lol, wow, overwatch are really pathetic

>>187818210
imagine being this insecure

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>>187818210
I didn't say these were people I knew IRL, but they're friends. Surely you've had online acquaintances in your life?

>>187818362
>>187818523
I'm not insecure or anything, it's just that I am a freshly diplomated lawyer and all my high school friends have turned druggies or work at the mall or something and I don't see myself asking a judge if he thinks jaina has a girly demon cock during a dinner . Learn to have different levels and dimensions you cucks, asking IRL friends if they want to be your gall is like asking the mail lady if she wants to gaggle on your cock because you usually end with that with your gf.

>>187818668
Yeah but I don't that attached to online people as to call them friends. They're just in-game contacts. Imagine one of your friends being a 50 yo fatass that faps to decapitated Syrian childs on /Pol/, that'll cure you.

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>>187818905
>>187819017
You have issues man, I suggest profession help. I'm as serious as you are, and I hope you're not.

>>187782767
>Gazlowe

I called it " Green jew" because he invade and holds the pirate area just to get shekels.

>>187819384
>profession
-al

I need professional sleep

>>187819384
USA was a mistake.
If you fail to that you should seek help and probably a gym club to lose all the fucking blob mass.

>>187818501
>wouldn't be ashamed to play third-worlder simulator
??

>>187818501
dota 2 is the most embarrassing those out of those by far family

unless you're russian in which case it explains your massive crippling autism

>>187731737
>50% DISCOUNT ON X HERO
>check next week the same hero cost amount
>basically the same amount
Why does blizzjew do this?

>>187772414
that's cool anon

>>187820739
50% gem discount, gold price stays the same.

>in-game model of DL Jaina's pecs aren't as impeccable
This triggers me. I like toned midriffs, man.

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eventually they gonna unlock the other two mounts or its a fail?

>>187821785
Donate $180,000 more and we can all get them anon

>>187821883

i paid 1.50 for a mount that looks fine. so, no thanks.

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>>187821785
I'll put in $1 only after the good goys will unclock all the lizards

>>187806540
Wait, what? I always alt-tab during loading.

>>187821785
there are like 12 weeks of HGC + blizzcon left
shit will fill up

>>187818210
Among RL friends I play HotS with is a lawyer, a politician, and a doctor. We have no need to keep it a secret.

>>187822056
>everyone else just donating 1-2 bucks
>"hehehe... stupid goys, thanks for unlocking the lizzies for me!"
>donate 1-2 bucks yourself
>post smug
Literal retard.

>>187824198
>>187824110
someone's mad as fuck lol

>>187817741
>fun_not_allowed.tiff

>>187818210
>be grown man
>smoke cigarettes only when alone in his room at night
Can't make this shit up.

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5 cute facts about Abathur:
- He's a slug!
- He's not useless!
- I love him!!!
- Abathur!!!!!!

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how do you stop this man

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>>187824330

>>187824542
get that buzzfeed shit out of here, here are five real facts:
-he's an ugly,illegal alien
-mentally handicapped, speaks in chopped sentences
-slow as fuck
-spreads his goo everywhere
-weak af

>>187824818
t. poor essence

Reminder that this game will NEVER have a femdraenei futa so you can go ahead and quit now

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>>187817752
>>187817893
>>187816919

post yfw during an event you collect "Call of Kel Thuzad" chests to get Thuzad content and these chests are worthless which is exactly what happened with the Summer event/unlocks.

>>187826570
The solution is head-canon, anon. Valeera and Sylvanas are just chilling, Valeera tells her about that weird magic book she finds and wants to try it out. Sylvanas grows a 10 inch futa dick and the only way to get rid of it is to fill up Valeera. There you go, have some imagination.

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>>187827302
cause i get stimpacks and extra motivation to play you retard

Heroes are back to a 4 week release schedule

New event coming up in october and december

>>187828674
>New event coming up in october and december
There is going to be a Halloween and a Christmas event, nothing special.

Is it ever worth going toads over spiders as naz when the enemy team has alot of melees you want to zone out?

also the level 7 talent that spawns 2 more spiders if only one target is hit is nice in theory but in teamfights I've found this hard to get value of, is the zombie wall talent a good alternative?

>>187829124
Toads are for heavy enemy frontline but not against double support (damage is always over 6 seconds which makes them bad).
Spiders are for isolation (you should almost never go healing off of spiders at 4 though).
Zombies are for when you need to doublesoak or push, they provide a shitton of waveclear (and while niche are actually nazeebo's highest winrate build in dia/masters).

Zombie build is thing of the deep, blood ritual (you will basically never need to leave lane ever, especially if you get globe), dead rush (this talent does a LOT), garry, iceblock, poison ring (though spider colony is also acceptable) and then vile infection.

Remember that it only takes 25 full waves to get vile infection done and that translates to 12 and half minutes. If you're double soaking you can have it done a lot quicker.

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>okay only need like 4 more wins to get GM let's fucking go
>3-7 so far

>>187829652
always get big voodoo tho, blood ritual has no value by midgame

>>187828808
They will be... different this year.

You'll see ;)

>>187830156
Fucking hopefull, I don't want 10 re-colors of the same shitty skin again, like in that horrible summer event.

>>187830351
Oh, it's that too. Hallowed boxes and Yule boxes. The other things being added are the interesting parts.

>>187830069
Blood ritual has plenty of value at every point in the game. It won't save you from being burst, but every point you heal from it is functionally equivalent to extra HP gained over big voodoo. And a wave gives 14% hp/mp + globe (12%hp+8%mana).

Big voodoo doubles your gains from a full wave from 24hp to 48, and 7 mana to 14. At level 4 when you pick up blood ritual, it gives you 36hp + 10.4 mana per minion killed, or 252hp + 72.8 mana. Add on the regen globe and you're getting ~500 hp, and 113 mana.

Clearing a wave with zombie wall + spiders + frogs costs about 140 mana, so with passive regen between waves you effectively have infinite mana sustain.

It's also worth noting that while you won't get stacks of voodoo ritual from neutral things like skull camps / seed camps / infernal shrines minions, you *will* get the healing off of them from blood ritual.

>>187829652
thanks! I'll give zombies build a try

>>187831206
Remember that nazeebo is by most accounts an extremely inferior and inconsistent assassin. You should be picking him for the late-game win condition of vile infection. If you want to actually kill people with absurd damage over time pick lunara.

lvl 75 - epic chest: legendary announcer murky announcer duplicate

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>bronzie redditors legit getting buttflustered over d.va's "ARE YOU BRONZE LEAGUE?" taunt.

>>187831653
400 triangles is still pretty good

>>187830848
Would you rather 500 hp that you can't regenerate in battle, or 1000 hp? Besides big voodoo solves any mana problems you would have anyways, and if you're having mana issues with nazeebo you're retarded.

The choice is clear to me.

>>187831857
how the hell do you actually get bronze in this game? like how many placements do you actually have to lose? 7? 8? I just don't see how someone can do that without trying to.

>>187831895
yeah, if u're a girly boy fag who cares about cosmetics.

>>187832376
If you don't care about cosmetics then loot chests are basically worthless anyway

>>187832069
Big voodoo does not solve mana problems, and if you position properly with nazeebo you shouldn't *need* the extra hp it provides. It's an anti-burst talent... and you've already got iceblock on 13 that you should be taking for that.

And that's 500HP at level 4 +globe. It gets better as you get more stacks and levels. At level 20 with vile infection complete you have 4151 hp (3451 +700), each time you kill something you're healing for 83 hp + 17.1mp, so a wave is 581hp + 119.7 mp, + 498hp + 70mp from the globe at minimum. With how critical lategame fighting and pushing is (especially through minion waves) you get an absurd amount of free healing that your support doesn't need to blow mana on as long as you're killing shit.

>>187832784
I had my suspicions, but now I'm certain that you are retarded.

>>187832236
I've never been bronze myself, but largely the process that I've seen is:
>Have a waifu
>play her at every possible opportunity
>ignore meta
>get indignant about any suggestions made that could help you improve
>never play draft mode so you never understand what works and why
>have bad ideas and attempt to wrangle your team into bad ideas at all times
>chase kills instead of trying to ever end the game (because QM).
>NEVER. EVER. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. TRY TO ACTUALLY LEARN SHIT.
>be bad at mechanical things
>be bad at positioning

I played with a bronzie earlier. They asked me why auriel gets banned so much. I said "its because she's arguably the best healer in the game right now with a battery, even after the nerfs". They didn't understand that by having any ally who could do ~500dps, auriel was able to shit out 900+hp aoe heals on a 2 second cooldown. Now it's a matter of being able to do ~240dps and she's pulling the same nonsense on a 4s cd.

>>187832502
I got Genji & Malthael from loot chests

>>187833106
>"this is the most winning build for nazeebo in masters, even though its slightly less popular"
>"but y"
>"because [reasons a b & c]"
>"I disagree so you're retarded"
k. You're empirically wrong, but believe what you want.

>>187832236
I've never even played HL but have you really never lost 7 games in a row before?

>>187833792
I went 2-8 in my placements this season and only went from plat 2 to plat 4, I proceeded to lose *another* 7 games on top of that and only dipped as low as gold 1 250 points before climbing back up.

Sorry, but losing 7 placements won't put you in bronze 5 unless you were already fucking retarded.

>>187832236
Uh, shitty initial MMR and/or dropping most of your placements.

>>187833792
Sure, just not in placements. Also; going 3-7 isn't going to drop you in Bronze unless you had a 45% wr in Quick Match prior, or were low Silver the last season.

Wonder if we'll be able to place right into masters on fresh accounts next season.

>>187760370
>This is a 25 year old man

Not even streamers want to play this game, when they get donations and subscribers.
This game is on it's way to the grave yard.

>>187833292
>like only 3 characters
>trying to get better with butcher and uther
>every time i try to heal with brightwing , we lose
not my damn fault game doesn't have enough heroes i like
then theres shit like gul'dan that i don't find fun but i should since i enjoy mages generally

>>187772107
Dibbles is the best nickname

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>>187836386
>streamers having influence
This meme needs to stop.
HotS is fine and will be well within that fine limit after Kel's launch event because of the end year holidays. The only issue is that people (and bliz) are still treating it as though it has ANY esports potential and that competitive play has ANY meaningful depth.

>>187836791
In multiplayer games, the quantity of the streamers and the viewership is a sign of the games success.

>>187836386
Probably because there are better games to play if you want the views.

>graveyard
No, that'll be after the KT hype wears off. Then we just chill until the next promo, event or big name hero.

>>187836791
fuck off from the thread shill

>>187836956
It's difficult for a hots streamer to start streaming league for example and retaining his viewership.
The reason they don't stream hots is because they can't stand playing it.

At this point the game is already dead, it's only a matter of their willingness of keeping it alive by throwing money into it's pyre. But for how long.

>people still call hots `daed gaem`
have you actually played any other multiplayer games in the past? do you really think you know what a ``dead game`` is and how it looks like?

>thinking objectives matter
They fucking don't, not even on ToD. Just had a game where we only got 2 altars the entire game but it didn't matter because I had every single tower destroyed by the 10 minute mark. The ONLY things that matter in this game are structures, and that is why this game is easy and seen as a joke compared to other mobas.

Sure, you can put time and energy into trying to secure that punisher, but what will you get from it? A tower and a wall? Why not use that time to grab a fort or a keep? Am I missing something here?

>>187837609
I was playing league for four years. Despite being less friendly to free players and riot's anti consumer practices, it had more people in every game mode, even in the bad ones.
Here if you queue immediately after a game it puts you with the same people because there is nobody else playing.

>>187837912
>Here if you queue immediately after a game it puts you with the same people because there is nobody else playing.
that happens to me all the time in league, it's fucking annoying

>>187837820
>friend in silver
>tell him to hit buildings
>dude the obj-
>hit
>structures
>eat
>minions
now he's plat and climbing
god bless how inefficient people are with their stupid skirmishes instead of just taking free buildings

>>187837609
relative to league, dota or overwatch I imagine

>>187837912
>it had more people in every game mode

As long as queues aren't huge what does that matter though? Do you really want all the Mountain Dew e-sports 15 year olds in your games?

>>187838072
I'm not examining player's personalities, a low population game has no long term survivability.
If you are not drawing players all the time you end up a ghost city because the existing playerbase dwindles inevitably.

>>187772107
Alarak - Aklkaarak
Garrosh - Gary
Arthas - Arty
Rexxar - Bear & Friends

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>forced 50 isn't re-

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>>187824818
it's a meme you dip

>>187772107
abs
zuber
yung azzy
yung gazzy
ol jimmey
invoker

>>187815941
You have some pretty serious issues with women don't you

>>187839009
where do you think you are, friend

>>187838924
>depth
idk recent hero releases have been pretty okay and kel'thuzad is looking great
at the end of the day it's still hots though

>>187839009
that's a copypasta

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guess that wasn't my fault
fucking boring healers all of them

>>187840109
You had nine deaths which is bad but on the other hand with a Nova and a Medivh on the team it is akin to playing as three against five.

>>187840109
>9 deaths
bunga detected

MEG WEY FOR DA BAD GUYYYYYYYY :-DDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>187772107
Most are french nicknames/references though
Zerajuif
Illidoux
Pandi Panda / Well hello for Chen
D.S.K for Dehaka
Sylvie for Sylvanas
Mehdi
Le loup
Le nègro (Naz)

I know its situational but what talents are the best with falstad?

I tried the autoattack build against diablo+arthas and still found it underwhelming

>>187841859
>I tried the autoattack build against the tank with the most health in the game and the tank that negates 10% of all autoattack damage by default and found it underwhelming
what did he mean by this

>>187840550
how do i survive against laser > garrosh pull > butcher charge?
enlighten me
not saying its not bad anyway whole point its i fucking dislike every healing heroe

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>>187842635
third match today with him , still bunga i guess

>>187842635
>laser
stun him

>garrosh pull
don't get hit by it

>butcher charge
position in such a way that he's vulnerable when finishing it ie move behind your team then stun/kite his brand/w

>>187843060
>everything at the same time
yea a few times i was shit at positioning but dont pretend i can avoid everything at the same time

>>187842224
>giant killer doesnt exist

>>187815140
Chogall could poke all he want, but it's not gonna matter if it's Braxis and he's being constantly forced outside of beacons while the game progresses and the three giant killers just get even more stronger

>see nigger being cancer

>report for abusive chat

>community improved

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treeant hero when
younglings under 25 need not apply

>>187843230
press alt+R next time

>>>/v/

>Arthas goes dps
>Uther and Tyrande never use their healing abilities
That's your typical prime time hots game nowadays. Truly a marvel to behold, everybody abandons ship.

>>187846191
>"I'm closer to death but hey at least I can seem superior on the internet" starer pack

>>187846776
>Being this oblivious

>>187846191
Q - Hits the ground in a cone, summoning roots at the very end of it that throw enemies back if they step on them.
W - Strike the enemy target for a heal over time.
E- Throw nearest enemy to target location.
There can also be a talent to do this to allies.
R1 - War stomp / taunt AoE
R2 - AoE slow and some damage. 3 charges
D - Less hp = Less dmg taken

>>187846776
It's an ad, it baffled me when I figured that one out because I always assume that most people here use adblock

>>187842635
>He lost to fucking laser Azmodan as Uther

Holy shit this general falls to new lows every day.

>>187847218
I think I mentioned 3 threads ago, but I lost against a 3 tank comp, with giantkiller Jimmy AND leoric on our side

>>187846454
>>>/lgbt/

>>187846191

There are no famous blizzard treants

All the treants in Warcraft are your average Joe's

>>187848614
There were no famous dryads or faerie dragons either and here we are.

>>187847564
>>>/x/

>>187772107

Leoric is literally Le Orick

>play dragon shire with diamond players
>third minute
>stukov 0 0 3
>anubarak 0 0 3
>move my leoric to core so we lose faster
>whisper anub after game "why you die 3 times"
>replies "fuck you down"
>The player is ignoring you.

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>>187848614
Well, that's perfect. I've loved most of their little OC heroes.

>>187848825
>tfw new accounts might get dropped in low master instead of d3 next season
god bless

>>187848969
>tfw new accounts might get dropped in low master instead of d3 next season

Game isnt dead btw xD Twitch doesnt matter btw YoU GuYS sShOUlD ReaLyl StOp wItH tHaT MeMe

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>played for 10 hours today
>8-10

GIVE ME GM ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE