ENOUGH edition
Previous thread >>187183259
>Download the basic game here. Current version is Dwarf Fortress 0.43.05
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/
>Official forums:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php
>Find a bug? Don't tell us! Tell Toady! Complaining in the thread will accomplish nothing.
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt
>Have a question? Check the wiki first:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Main_Page
>Fireden archived threads:
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/Dwarf%20Fortress/
>Dwarf Therapist (Standalone is out of date, use Starter Pack for 43.05):
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122968.0
https://github.com/splintermind/Dwarf-Therapist/releases/
>DFHack:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139553.0
https://github.com/DFHack/dfhack/releases
>Starter Pack:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.0
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=7622
>More DF stuff:
http://pastebin.com/AnsHjQ40
Modanon's Mods: http://dffd.bay12games.com/who.php?id=3558
>Dwarf Fortress General IRC chat:
http://en.irc2go.com/webchat/?net=freenode&room=dwarffortress
(to connect yourself: https://webchat.freenode.net #dwarffortress)
>A bunch of guides to various parts of fort-based living:
http://imgur.com/a/nGyRF#0
>Video tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBrdUj1adIBD-vgUodaaxebcdqQ4oEWtg
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1A3FE72C0DCAC66 (Dated, but good)
>Text tutorials:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/DF2014:Tutorials
http://members.iinet.net.au/~morty/Getting_Started_with_Dwarf_Fortress.pdf
>This pasta:
http://pastebin.com/iAduXzjn
Strike the earth!
Name me hero.
I was starting to think Toady would release an update before someone made a new thread.
>>187688865
Snufflepuss.
Alternatively, Bruteclimaxes.
why go on
>update
>>187689536
You misunderstand.
http://www.bravemule.com/in50/
>>187689973
>reading someone else's illustrated fort game instead of playing the game
>being a fan of the fandom
>>187690238
The Dwarf Fortress community is pure
>>187690238
>sharing stories about the game
>bad
>>187690432
There's no such thing as a good community.
>>187690512
Careful with that edge, you might cut yourself.
>>187690478
>not being a contrarian whenever you fuck something up as a completely anonymous poster
It's almost like you're some kind of elf!
>>187690585
Name one thing that isn't ruined/brought down by it's fanbase.
>>187690726
ToadyScamps
>>187690821
>Toady has pure fanbase
>SEWAGE AND SEX AND RAPE WHEN
>>187690950
>because 100% of DF's fanbase wants sewage sex rape shit piss fuck and cock
>>187690950
Not THAT kind of pure
>>187691032
yes that is correct
>>187691243
That means I want tosex and rapeyou too.
I'll make youtake my entire +silver war hammer+ up the lower front perineum.
>>187691032
I just want a combat overhaul with procedural, real life, and custom combat maneuvers.
>>187691437
>not just practicing kisat dur
>>187690432
>never been to bay12 forums
>>187691721
Might as well just dfhack exterminate your enemies.
>>187690432
the problem is that it seems to be dominated by people who don't play the game.
>>187693009
>implying anyone in /dfg/ ever plays DF
>>187693214
joking aside, they certainly did up to a few months ago. I think we're still suffering the effects of the last tourney, which attracted dozens of newcomers who didn't play the game but just wanted to enjoy the "DF culture".
>>187693513
I don't see you posting any DF either, faggot.
>why does nobody play DF
>I post about my masterwork game
>REEEEE MASTERWORK OUT
>wtf where are all the dwarf fort posts
>>187693767
masterwork posts should stay in the masterwork general duh
>>187693767
What, should I go run a fort now and post a play-by-play here or something?
Because fuck that,I don't wanna get shit on.
>>187694976
Yes do it please.
>Z
>s
>++
>Return
I expect to see some real content when I wake up. Boot up your games you lazy shits.
DF smut
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMRsScwdPcE
>7:00
>this is what we want for dwarf fortress, we want to be able to fight the gods
cool zach is cool
>>187702292
>we want to be able to fight the gods
bump my men
hump my kobolds
Toady is cool
>>187708229
>toady is cool
bumo
>>187712486
sumo
>>187709262
I just think he's a nice man :(
Have you worshipped your true God today?
>>187714814
this is ned
update when?
>>187719128
5 hours
>>187719128
24 horas
>>187719128
another 6 months
Japanese goblins.
>>187724490
The Lusty Gila Monster Woman Fishery Worker
This shit really is dead, isn't it?
>>187727605
Well yeah duh
>>187727695
It's just you and me, degenerate.
>>187690432
>all those fabulous bearded bitches
I guess it is still better to live in a time when shaving is something for women to do with their legs, pits, and crotches rather than something silly which boys do before they become men.
>>187728651
How dare you call me a degenerate
When will /dfg/ die?
>>187730019
It already is
tfw can't fucking make my dwarves defend a burrow
>>187730886
Just pretend you're not dumb and use station orders.
>>187731779
Wiki says there are separate orders for every alert but in my game all the alerts share one order list.
And even when I assign them to defend burrow they just drink in the tavern.
I'm tired of making planned out autism forts, so this time, I'm going for something completely organic an undplanned. What I have is basically one giant open air quarry, surrounded by a network of automined veins. Whenever I need more rooms, I just sqeeze some into the automined veins.
I'm also digging the main quarry deeper and deeper, and I intend to have it go through at least one cavern.
>>187728868
I want to feel those fat moth tiddies
>>187731915
I think you're misunderstanding what is meant by what the wiki says. You know how when you put your squads on duty initially (s t) it goes from "no orders" to "training/active"? You've just moved between two different alerts, one which puts all your dwarves in that squad off duty and one which has (by default) "Train 10". You can create as many different alerts as you like to cycle between, and each can have their own set of orders or even unique orders for every month, just like the default training/active alert.
>>187733764
I am using [m]ilitary screen to set orders, I've made several different alerts, including civilians hiding in burrow and another alert which assigns squad to a defensive burrow, complete with orders to defend burrow every month of the year. However the defend burrow order seems to apply to every single alert for some reason, yet they still just drink in the tavern.
>>187733097
How do you automine veins?
>>187734327
d-d-a
if you designate the visible part of a gem or ore cluster after that, your dorfs will mine out everything they find behind it automatically.
My, would you look at this. We've got a murder mystery.
>>187734327
Press a when designating digging, it'll pick the mode.
>>187735029
>>187735093
Hey cool guys, thanks
Now my dwarves won't mine. Sit idling with no jobs. Why?
My entire fortress is on strike. What gives?
We've just been through a siege, but still.
>>187735812
>green activities
they don't have anything to do.
>>187736216
I'm pretty sure they have workshops to work and mines to mine and farms farms to farm.
Japanese demons.
Don't you just hate it when goblins come and smear your walls with their guts?
>Dig a well shaft into cavern water source
>Mess up stairs so there's no direct path
>Miners take detours through caverns now
>Designated stairs to make path more straight
>The same dwarf goes up and down the cavern because he wants to dig from both ends
Fucking hell dwarves.
>>187740860
burrows
>>187735470
>>187735812
>>187736428
Are you sure that your dwarves have picks and mining labor enabled and can reach the mining designated areas and that those areas are active (brown) rather than just markers (blue)? Are you sure your farms are set for seeds of a sort that your dwarves can reach to be planted this season and that they haven't already been planted and that your dwarves have farming(fields) labor enabled? Are you sure that your workshops have jobs queued up in them and that your dwarves have the appropriate labors enabled for those jobs and can reach those workshops and the materials they'd be working with?
>>187740860
>>The same dwarf goes up and down the cavern because he wants to dig from both ends
Or maybe you fucked up the stairs again.
>decide to try dfhack because you guys keep shilling it
>game crashes ~3 times in an hour in adventure mode
>start a fort
>spend ~40 minutes designating shit and watching dwarves mine out stones
>game crashes
>back to beginning of summer autosave
How can you people play with this unstable trash?
Tonight on Questionable Architecture Choices: Can you count all the separate segments on this level?
>>187741573
I have no idea. The problem seems to have resolved when the wave of migrants arrived. Perhaps some kind of timer reset? They work fine now.
And yes, I'm sure. I'm not stupid, I played this game for years. The problem abruptly started and ended.
>>187741830
in my experience, dfhack is more unstable now than it has been in a very long time. exactly how often it crashes seems to vary between different worlds. sometimes it crashes every few minutes, sometimes it doesn't crash at all. today, I've had one dfhack related crash. I've tried to bring it up in the general, but people here are very quick to dismiss it, possibly because they're used to defend it against "purists" or something.
the dfhack induced crashes are easy to recognise, because unlike the vanilla crashes, they won't show you the "df has stopped working" popup. instead, the whole game + dfhack will just shut down.
>>187741830
>tfw using an old alpha 64bit build of dfhack
>works flawlessly
Is there any way to set priority to stockpile? I want my small stockpile to fill first, then fill the large one.
>>187742897
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Stockpile#Take_from_a_stockpile.2Fworkshop
That should give you want you're trying to do.
My soldiers turn civilian when I order them to defend burrow. Help.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Should've prepared better.
Don't remember goblins being this fierce though.
>>187744965
How do you do it?
I make a burrow at the front of my gate, make new alert, assign the burrow and the squad to the alert, and give them defend burrow order for every month of the year. The moment I change from the training/active alert to Defend burrow alert they just turn civilian and fuck off.
>>187745284
Did you set the number of dwarves on the list? I remember it's not intuitive.
>>187745435
Yes I marked them all.
Tried both 10 minimum and 1 minimum and neither works.
>>187745284
>>187745615
Don't assign the burrow to the alert.
>make GateBurrow
>make GateAlert
>set up GateAlert schedules to defend GateBurrow
>assign squads to GateAlert
When their turn on the GateAlert schedule comes up to defend GateBurrow they'll go do that.
What is the current aftermath of losing a site to siege? Goblins just stand around?
>>187746320
it used to be that way before world activation. now they just leave and go back to their business.
demons, on the other hand, will disperse into the wilderness and occasionally attack travellers.
>>187745985
Didn't help they are still civilian
This is so annoying.
>>187746630
Just set them to train there. It's easier this way.
>>187715659
Hail Ned
Deliver us
>>187747416
Is this really necessary?
>>187748212
It is vital.
>>187748342
It was inevitable.
>>187748212
don't reply to him.
in any case, it was nice to finally see some actual DF discussion again today. I hope we can keep this development up.
Alright lads your brought to the glorious DF universe and put in charge of the last fort your made
How long do you survive with your lovely dorfs until FUN gets you?
>>187748602
I would kill myself immediately
Started this embark months ago then never actually played it. Picked it up yesterday and it's a super comfy site. Bottom left corner has the start of a brook and aquifer I can use to make a well, the middle is all mountainous with plenty of stone to dig the main fort in, plus the volcano for fuel and Fun, and the top right is overflowing with iron ore even on the surface levels.
>>187748602
I would immediately kill myself because the only job free atm is helping to round up and kill the literally hundreds of stray poults I have roaming about on the surface because I forgot about them when I moved all my dorfs underground
>>187742254
I count seven, including the two separate up/down staircases that are just passing through.
>>187749009
My fps doubled when I ordered most of my stray birds caged a month or two (irl) ago.
Do you have a few dwarves training constantly and being a standing army or do you you have all of your dwarves conscripted a couple months of the year so all dwarves are somewhat trained or do you have some combination of both?
>>187751235
Everyone is conscripted, either half the year or 1/3 for important/low on manpower jobs
>>187702292
Where can I find the game featured at 9:53?
>>187752046
Dragslay? You don't. Only Toady has it, and while he did seem to want to re-release it at one point, he decided that it would be too much work to make it work on modern computers.
There's no real reason to play Dragslay, either. It's literally the predecessor of Armok 1, and therefore also of DF. All you'd get is a shittier DF with infantile humour.
>>187752509
Oh I thought it was its own thing. Nevermind then.
>>187745284
Use station orders. You want them to station somewhere, not defend a burrow. The defend burrows order does nothing at all unless there's something in the burrow for the dwarves to defend against.
>111 replies
>32 posters
>>187752750
Oh.
Well that fucking sucks.
I wanted to use a burrow to force my dwarves to hold the line instead of rushing into a crowd of 50 goblins trolls and beakdogs only to fall from over-exertion because they have to dodge 10 attacks at once.
>>187752901
we're a small bunch of friendly autists, bupming this trhead until the next upfadate
>>187752901
makes sense. I usually post more than three times in a thread, and I never phonepost unless something happens to my connection.
>>187752924
Even if defend burrows did what you thought it would, it wouldn't do that. They would just rush out of the burrow to attack anything in their LoS. The best you can do is get x number of dwarves to stand in a 4 tile radius of a station point (made by creating a note with N), but there's no way to enforce anything like a formation or prevent military dwarves from engaging visible enemies.
>>187752901
>>187753227
I post from home and phonepost from work. There are fewer of us than it seems.
>>187748913
Those three little flats are just begging for mini-towers connected by hanging walkways.
>>187753554
we usually have around 100 posters by the end of each thread. I assume this translates to about 20-30, if we take phoneposting and dynamic IP ranges into account.
of course, it's probably fewer than that right now, because of the stagnation and shitposting. hopefully the shitposters get tired and move on. they seem like the sorts to have short attention span.
I haven't followed DF for a long time now. Did Toady set any update date?
>>187753924
Yeah, dynamic IPs are important factor, thanks to all my shitposting I get banned a lot, so I disconnect my modem to get a new IP, I think I've posted in this thread with four different IPs.
>>187754159
about a month ago it was in about 40 days. then, about a week ago, toady said that there hadn't been much progress, so it's probably still about 40 days.
>>187754348
And in 40 days it will probably still be 40 days away
>>187754295
>thanks to all my shitposting
I sincerely hope you don't do it on /dfg/. shitposting is unironically what has been killing the general. the general has survived far longer release intervals before, so it's definitely not that.
>>187754860
I've shitposted about kobolds a few times but that's about it.
>>187754860
Everything has been "dying" lately. If anything it's the hordes of phoneposting normies that have found their way online in recent years.
>>187755194
True, for example, I am dying right now.
>>187755420
Is it because in a time before time somebody attacked someone?
>>187755564
Maybe.
>>187755564
post your best dorf instruments
>>187756506
So... it's just a silver cube that you shake? Does it have a bead or something inside it to make noise? What does fluid buzzy timbre even mean? Fucking dwarves man, what are they on.
>>187756696
The musician
shakes
the
block
>>187753364
It really would be nice if we could have dwarves acting more intelligently and/or following player orders better, at least if their discipline skill or their commander's leadership and/or tactics skill is high enough or whatever. As it is they pretty much just have two settings: berserk and cowardly. I don't know about you, but I don't think of dwarves as exclusively berserkers in combat, really what comes to my mind is shield lines.
>>187756506
Here's my fort's best in a different sense.
>>187756696
Maybe it's electrically charged or something.
>>187756696
You just have to shake it at high enough frequency.
>>187756506
>>187756696
>>187757117
>>187757202
>>187757719
And here's one in the same sense as the first.
>>187757719
The ladies love a good kat player.
>>187757950
>stationary instrument
>played by shaking it
>>187757950
>huge stone block
>shake it to make music
Did some retarded dwarven hercules design this piece of shit or what
>>187758224
You just shake it really, really, REALLY hard.
I found drew posting comfy wwI art in an /his/threadI won't post it if you dont want it, drew
I didn't know beastmen could be lords of human societies
>>187763379
Anybody can be anything in any society.
>>187763861
Well the dingoman got his head cut off in his sleep so I'm the lord now
>>187764774
>killing such a rare specimen
disgraceful
mai waifu
>>187765638
9/10 just needs to be covered in shit-stained fur
I chose A both times. What would have happened if I had chosen B?
I'm not sure if I actually cut down any trees since they had last sent a diplomat to warn me about my abuse of trees.
>>187769270
Just yes them to death until they fuck off and if you need more wood than they're happy with they can suck a dick.
>>187769270
I think they get a little bit pissed off at you, or maybe they just straight up start a war. I never choose B either, elves aren't that bad. 128 trees a year is more than enough, and they always bring cool exotic animals with them.
The whole "remove elf" thing is just a meme.
>>187759219
lets see pics
>drew on /his/
makes sense I guess.
Adventure mode is boring.
Prove me wrong.
>>187773461
It can be quite the rush when you get into your roleplaying, start to connect with the character, and then inevitably face your death.
How do I into adventure mode these days? I can't seem to find quests and stuff that I can feasibly manage like I did a few years ago
This is a japanese troll.
>>187775364
Ask lords about bad shit going on. Try different conversation options. Make sure you ask for directions to X lair instead of the whereabouts of Y monster or Z bandit group.
>>187775364
Spawn in a keep. Ask the lord about troubles then ask for the whereabouts of (bandit camp, megabeast, lair, etc.). That's all there is to it.
>>187733257
I'm sorry, I shouldn't encourage this shit but goddamn that is amusing as hell for some reason.
>>187773461
ONE...MAN...CRUSADE
>& ssh -Y [email protected]
> ./Games/.porn\ desu/df_linux/dfhack
Only way to play desu
>>187777469
I HOPE AN ENTIRE COLONY OF FIRE ANTS CRAWLS UP YOUR ASSHOLE AND EATS YOU FROM THE INSIDE
>first siege in four years
>the freeloading traveling adventurers/soldiers rush out of the trail of spears to kill them
>four fucking goblins
>mfw
>>187777682
You're always so rude.
Any way I can use dfhack to find the temperature of an item?
>>187778257
Pretty sure by default it will list the temperature of any item when you look at its description.
>>187778343
It doesn't. Under the "More Information (DFhack):" line there's nothing at all printed. Pic related, too.
It's the remains of a forgotten beast made of flame, and I'm trying to figure out if it's safe for my dwarves to handle. I'd like to build it in a display case if I possible,
>>187773461
>>187779108
learn2crop
>>187779108
>reading simulator
>not boring
>>187776231
This is a japanese ogre.
>>187779108
>tiles
>>187781442
rockposter is so much better at bumping than you
>>187781442
Could you stop? Or at least post what Japanese ogres etc. actually look like. Pic related.
>>187781709
>>187782302
Seriously this is such a shit-tier bumper.
Japanese kobolds have certain features that are not present in their western counterpart, such has the pair of D-cup breasts of female japanese kobolds.
I'm hungry for ninedots.
Where can I find more?
I can't get enough of what's coming out of my monitor with unsettlingly perfect pixels.
>>187769270
>>187769631
Yes, yes, good Dwarf. Give in to the demands of your betters.
>>187784680
[autism intensifies]
>>187715659
That's an ape not a monkey idiot
This is a japanese toad. It has a robust body with a triangular head with pointed snout and short thick limbs. Its processed venom was commonly used to treat cuts and burns in traditional japanese medicine.
It also releases updates frequently.
>>187784710
acidyblogspot or something?
Post kobolds.
>>187789404
You like that you sick fuck?
>>187789404
>>187789404
>>187789542
Oh dear...
>>187789404
>>187789893
She never stood a chance...
>>187789404
>>187790187
>spermster
>>187790546
Oh dear lord what fresh hell is this... I think that was a joke on spearmaster getting shortened... I hope.
>>187790546
ENOUGH
BIG
FAT
KOBOLD
TATS
Ok that's enough for now.
>>187790970
Yeah, I'm mad because the thumbnail was just large enough that I had to double check and setting aside everything else wrong about that pic, I find myself forced now to wonder why--despite the fact that there are apparently anthropomorphic reptilian sex dungeons in that setting--I am most bothered about it being a distinct vagina and anus, rather than a cloaca?
I suppose I should be happy that I haven't wandered into the areas where this sort of thing is more fervently discussed so as to know why this is apparently "cool" with the "sorta-furry-but-really-just-scaly-what-the-fuck-do-we-even-call-these-degenerates" crowd?
ffs /dfg/ pull yourselves together
>>187791701
To cleanse the palate, another one of my ninedots pile!
>>187791701
I thinl you have a case of the autism.
kill kob
>>187792884
By jove you may be right.
>>187793547
see, if that were a male kobold and if you didn't linger so long on the begging and the killing I might've given you the benefit of the doubt
But I'm pretty sure you jerk off to that shit.
I started an adventurer with 0 in all stats (just mashed enter during creation) and now I'm trying to kill this ettin.
What sort of hijinks have you guys been up to in Dwarf Fortress?
>>187793883
I've seen this so many times and it still looks too complicated.
>>187793912
Nah, it's too badly drawn, if it was well drawn then yeah sure.
>>187793883
>>187794161
I can't even tell what it's supposed to be.
Tourneyanon
nonayenruoT
>>187794098
A lot. Among other things I've been digging this hallway. It's now 36z away from where it branched off of the rest of my fort and I still haven't decided anything to do with it. I'm just going to keep going deeper with it, I guess.
>>187796847
Rilothvanod
>>187796847
is kill
I want to fuck a cute kobold
>>187797948
>>>/d/
And don't come back.
>>187798146
Posting kobolds is gonna get you banned on /d/, you wanna go to /trash/ for that.
It's funny how /trash/ is actually the best porn board on the whole site.
>>187798263
It's both the worst and most degenerate. And so are you.
>>187798323
You're just a prude.
>>187798454
>people who don't fuck dogs are prudes
>>187798454
Just go spam your kobold in the f-list thread or whatever. Not here.
It's nice how the game paints you a comfy scene every now and then. I imagine the dozen or so dwarves toiling away at the tower on the lake, a light cool drizzle breaking the oppressive summer heat as dusk falls, and they stop their work for a minute as fireflies begin to punctuate the creeping twilight with little points of brightness all around them, and the green treefrogs that infest the lake begin crooning and chirping at the darkness...
and then back to the business of hauling blocks up stairs and scrambling along ledges for the next one.
The game says dwarves don't typically appreciate nature, but my headcanon says these dwarves love the sights and sounds of their own little stretch of nature.
>>187798567
KOBOLDS. ARE NOT. DOGS.
>>187799171
They aren't real either, so fuck off.
>>187799264
I just got here, didn't realize some particularly deranged kobold fans had gone wild in here, that said, kobolds aren't dogs.
Even DF kobolds are just shitty goblins, not dogs.
>>187799171
They aren't lizards either pervert.
>>187799354 is correct
DF Kobolds are closer to the traditional Germanic folklore kobolds. Tiny ugly humanoids.
>>187799476
>>187799354
The OP pic shows exactly how they look in Armok 1 (and therefore also implicitly in DF): smaller, brown goblins with yellow eyes. They can still be cute, obviously, but they're far from the fur/scalefag fantasy we keep seeing posted.
>>187796564
Hyperautist keyboard.
Have one last bump before bed, /dfg/. Try to talk about something other than kobolds tonight. Like maybe some forts or gameplay discussion or something.
Eat elv
>>187803420
please stop
elv did nothing wrong
>>187803883
True
This might be of interest around here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uHc4Hirexc
>>187796564
Looks to me like it's a chorded keyboard, though I'd never seen a picture of one before.
Disgusting elv
>>187789404
Gotta clear out all those visitors every now and then to recover some FPS.
>>187807937
>all those dead dwarves
Heh.
>>187807937
Yea, what the hell.
>check the tavern I made three years ago
>six corpses in there
>covered in bones
>>187759219
That fucking slut! Here, stalker general, now /his/. He just can't get enough cock!someone draw drew getting all aheago-y from drawing for multiple threads at the same time.
K-Kobolds...
>>187809375
If drew drew drew, how many drews would've drew drawn?
>>187809974
about drew fiddy
>>187808049
He he he.
>>187809857
Kobolds are meant forhard loving
>on my tenth fort
>zero kobold encounters
>>187810587
Kobolds have a tendency to get killed quite often in world gen, they're pretty weak after all.
>>187811376
And then they remain only in the underground, so you might get them if you embark near a kobold settlement and dig deep.
Elv
>>187811793
What ifElv and Kob together
Gobs can love too.
>>187809375
>someone draw drew getting all aheago-y from drawing for multiple threads at the same time.
I never knew I wanted this
Only drew could draw it good enough, but it would be the weirdest thing we have requested of him by far
>>187811914
No, just no.
>>187812068
Yes, just yes.
>>187812257
No, and stop posting that kobold.
How do i pump water up? I want to dry out an aquifer and put the water in a reservoir at ground level.
I tried looking it up but it looks like i'm too dumb to understand.
>>187813571
I don't think I can explain it any better than the wiki. What specifically seems to confuse you?
>>187813906
How do i make pump stacks?
They say i can put the lighter color of the pump on top of the dark color of the pump below but that doesn't seem to work.
This man likes elv
Do you like elv?
>>187814116
Why are there tiny clouds floating in front of him? Is he a giant or something?
>>187814271
He's making popcorn
>>187814116
Kobold likes elves.
>>187814410
I'm gonna make you regret the day you were born
>All this anime
>>187814753
This wouldn't be happening if Toady got his shit together and released the update.
>>187815061
I swear to god I seriously debated posting that image instead of >>187814753
>>187814042
It'll probably be easier to understand with pictures. Where and how should i place my pumps to remove the water of the southern aquifer into the reservoir?
>>187815909
Where is your reservoir ?
>>187817535
It's the empty rectangle in the second picture.
It connects with the down slope in the third picture.
what should i do with the gear that dwarfs drops? like the tattered equipment?
>>187815909
Why does your pump pumps the water back into the aquifer?
>>187818286
There were three pumps before.
I tried to recover the body of a poor dwarf who drowned during my pump experiments by basically pumping as much water as i could before it could come back.
It worked, we recovered the body.
Now i just need to pump the water up but i don't really know how to do this..
are the aquifers in the walls or in the floors?
>>187818436
Just build a closed room in front of your pump, then pump from that room, its only 2 zlvl
>>187818545
Some of them are in the wall.
I tried digging into multiple places in the floor but everytime there was damp stone.
>>187818618
So if i basically enclosed the pump the water will go up?
Won't the dwarf who's pumping drown?
>>187818745
I wasn't asking you in particular, I was asking about aquifers in general. Are they in the floors or in the walls?
>>187818745
Anon read the fucking wiki article on pumps, and probably on liquids too, it's not hard
>>187818850
And you read the article on aquifers
>>187818994
Anon, i'm posting here BECAUSE i read the articles about pumping on the wiki and i don't get it.
It says that i have to choose the direction where i want the water to flow, there's no up direction, okay fine.
Then i read the article on pump stack. Oh great that must be how i can move water up.
"The basic functionality is possible because the Output (dark) side of the pump can be built over open space with a machine component located directly below, in this case another Screw Pump. Note that for power to properly transfer, the intake (light) side of the pump must line up with the output (dark) side of the pump on the floor above it through a space in the floor, as in the illustration. "
Like i said in one of my previous post i tried this and it just wouldn't let me place it.
It only wanted to let me place it if i wanted to pump from the north but i want to pump from the south.
>>187818994
>thread is literally dead, 2/3 of the posts are shitposts
>the wiki police is STILL pushing the "no game related questions in the thread" meme, apparently shitposting is better
>>187819260
Pumps can't pump up. Sorry, anon.
>>187819485
But it says on the wiki
"A Pump stack is a method used to draw water or magma vertically across multiple z-levels requiring a minimum of parts."
"A pump stack minimizes the amount of machinery required to lift water or magma(...)"
Are you sure?
>>187819610
"A screw pump is a small building that can lift liquids (water or magma) from one level below onto the same Z-level as the pump."
Yes
>>187819610
He's baiting, also I don't really see how you can't understand this illustration, it's as clear as it can get
>>187819760
It's because i wasn't able to put a pump on another pump like in this image but i think this might have been because i made a mistake somewhere.
Thanks anons, i'll come back if i have more questions.
Can't wait for the ocean arc, do you think we'll be able to play as aquatic creatures with aquatic civilizations?
>>187819958
>your soldiers see invaders on the beach
>they charge them instantly and airdrowns a few second later
>>187819951
You probably channeled a tile that you weren't supposed to, you need at least one tile of floor under each pump
>dumb furry general
kys
>>187820217
it's two guys at most, just report and hide.
I can post elv instead
>>187820526
I'll post kobold for your elf.
>>187820590
I'll make you suffer
>>187820686
Heavily.
>>187820352
It is the best, cutestand most fuckablepanda. I'd worship her.
Speaking of worshipping, religions that aren't boring when? Right now you either get a pantheon or a forest spirit or something gay like that, and the pantheons are usually just a bunch of dwarves. I want to worship forgotten beasts and dragons and magma crabs, not some fucker who's supposed to represent them.
Besides that, religion only serves as a happy mood that doesn't do shit all considering moods don't matter at all in the latest version.
>>187820941
Well I'm pretty sure deities will become more involved once the myths & magic update drops, it's a planned feature of it anyway. Maybe you will actually manage to intereact with them directly or they'll give you some kind of benefit for worshippin them, or something like that. I guess they'll also have their own rules, and they might get angry at you for not respecting them, for example if your adventurer worships a god of war, but instead of going to battle decides to retire and live a quiet life in a village, the god might get angry and give you some kind of punishment.
Also kobolds.
>>187821308
Has Toady mentioned doing something with religion recently, or is it all just artifacts and adding to the heap that is personality?
Please fucking release the update Toady. This shitposting needs to stop.
This is obsidian.
>>187821549
Only you can stop shitpostfires.
Aaaand it works.
Guess i was overcomplicating things.
Thanks everyone.
>>187821530
Nah, so far he has only done artifact stuff, the whole myths stuff comes after that update. As far as I know atleast, problem is that I bet that update is gonna take between 3 to 5 years until it's released.
Also dwarves.
>>187821682
I can't sit around and stop them all. I have to go to Geology today and later on a 2 hour lab.
This is malachite.
Please stop posting all this awful anime and furry shit please don't do this
>>187821818Why aren't you posting more DF, Anon? Hmm?
>>187822051
I dont want to give activity to a furry general so I keep my fortress to myself.
>>187822765
Man, that is some serious libtard logic.
>>187823017
how in the world do you link disdain for furries to liberal politics?
>>187823615
>oh look a bunch of gay faggots are all up in my home
>I better do something about it!
>oh I know!
>I'll let them do whatever they want and just do my thing!
>>187824172
>>187823854
>>187823392
>>187823074
Fuck off you fucking faggots
>>187824414
>hating Tifa's tifas
>calling others faggots
>>187824414
No you
Would anybody be interested in watching someone stream item/skillless embark?
I'm in the mood for it
When did this thread turn into a fap thread?
>>187824970
Silly anime girl
>>187824970
since two shitposters decided that no one should discuss DF here.
>>187824964
I'd watch.
I blame the kobold posters for the current state of this thread. Also what are some good parameters for a fun adventure mode world?
>>187825195
>someone posted something unrelated
>that means I cannot ever post anything about DF again!
I thought you're supposed to have some manner of thick skin on 4chan. Grow a pair.
Kobolds are getting old, post goblins instead
>>187825214
alrught, give me some time, to set everything up.
Gonny post link >soon
>>187825386
Fuck that, post night trolls.
>>187825307
40d and prior, for one.
Otherwise, Tiny or Pocket and a lack of rivers. Rivers fucking suck to get around.
It is terrifying.
>>187825518
Better embark right next to that lower right tower.
>>187825471
Shit, but I have no night troll pics
>>187825593
Find them.please, forced tf is my fetish
>>187825320
>being cringy shit is part of 4chan culture, therefore it should be /dfg/'s culture as well
epbin
>>187825634
Well alright I'll try, meanwhile have a minotaur pic
>>187825320
furries are universally bannable on 4chan. I don't know where you got the idea that 4channers with "thick skin" would tolerate it.
>>187801843
I want dis tileset.
>>187825698
You really are a libtard, aren'cha? Completely missing the point while whining about something unrelated. Start discussing DF or nobody will, you oversized crybaby. You have no right to complain otherwise.
>>187825307
Shit, don't have my history from my nightly profile so all my neat world pastebins are unavailable, but here's a more recent one: https://pastebin.com/898dLPQq
Note that I tinkered with the balance of sites/caps using: https://github.com/maxthyme/scripts/raw/master/worldgenedit.lua to get a feel I like, so the seed won't make EXACTLY that world, but it should be pretty fucking close to what you see in the png.
>>187825867
Because 4channers get banned all the time.
>>187825867
Except on /trash/
That being said I think we should bring /l/ back, I hate going to /b/ to find loli threads
Are you tired o- sorry, is this /dfg/? Am I in the right thread?
Ugh, whatever. Are you tired of consistent test results? Do you want your data to make no fucking sense?
Fear not, we have exactly what you need!
After last test on giant alligators I expected to see metals nicely show material progression against cave dragon. Well, too bad, because ranged combat is more unpredictable than update release date. I've run tests a few times, because to be honest, when after the first one I saw iron performing noticeably better than steel, I thought that I might've fucked up the setup. What you're seeing right now is the last iteration, where I made doubly sure that everything was prepared properly.
Anyway, the choice of specific metal seems to matter less than luck. The enemy might be dead after 3 copper bolts or take 100 candy ones and give you a finger in return. This shit is pure RNG. Maybe with 100x bigger sample size some clear patterns would start to appear, but right now I can only say that copper and silver seems perform somewhat worse than the rest of the metals. However, since the whole thing is so random, unless you have enough steel to make floors and walls out of it, I see no reason to waste steel bolts on unarmored organics.
>/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General
???
>>187825726
Well this is hard and I don't want to go to sadpanda right now so I'm giving up
>>187825907
Raving Maniac.
>>187825471
Have no images, but I do have this: https://github.com/maxthyme/scripts/raw/master/generventurated.lua
Using that during adventurer creation should let you do stuff liiiiike play //as// a night troll, or demon, or angel, or whatever the fuck else generated shit you want.
Note that I excluded forgotten beasts because they are still an experiment.
Tried to get it where it would pull the first bit of the description and use that for the displayed name so you'd have like:
>A huge feathered spider made of cobalt...
>A skinless horse with huge mandibles...
>A quivering blob made of vomit...
Instead of:
>Forgotten Beast
>Forgotten Beast
>Forgotten Beast
>>187826287
Since we had some bronze colossi leftovers from the previous tests, we decided to shoot steel and candy bolts at them. It looks like as long bolts can pierce bronze, they perform pretty much the same. Iron bolts for example deal absolutely no damage.
>>187825386
G O B L I N S
>>187826504
>Using that during adventurer creation should let you do stuff liiiiike play //as// a night troll, or demon, or angel, or whatever the fuck else generated shit you want.
Can I abduct women and transform them into my hideous waifus?
>>187826530
And some bonus for you sick fucks:
An elven maiden in giant kea high boots lashing naked kobolds (male) with her rose gold whip.
>>187826690
>>187826849
>elf doesn't get raped
meh
>>187826659
Where the hell did I put that pics with Karl as Goblin Slayer, fuck, I can never find it when I need it.
>>187826504
>Raving Maniac.
Do you use the default color scheme?
Been away from this game in a years time, is it playable? I remember a huge FPS drop when your fort got to a decent size.
>>187827834
Sadly no, it's even worse now
>>187827893
fuck off, the game hasn't even been updated during the last year.
>>187827893
Well shit, guessed so by the state of this general,
Nyeeeeeeeeeeeh
Kobold knights!
>>187826681
...I have no clue, but I don't think you can unless you retire somewhere and alter your orientation appropriately?
>>187827573
Nah, that ain't my fort, it's Relicwebsbro and I can't think of their color scheme name now.
>>187825214
twitch.com > xanta_
here is a link. Tell me, if it doesnt work or if there are any problems
>>187825484
Why do you say 40d is better for advmode?
>>187829151
Because forts and towns aren't a complete nightmare to navigate, the "quest" system is much more streamlined and the combat is more guttural. More exploding bodies.
Moths
>>187828653
Come to thing of it, texture packs do have an advantage over ASCII.
They ain't grainy as fuck when compressed.
>>187830762
I think the worst part about this is that the frog is starting at the girl while she eats him.
>>187831613
to be fair, that's how most frogs end their lives anyway
>>187829325
>t. nugamer who can't play without having all quest locations marked on the map
for the cities, weren't the 40d cities just random buildings scattered on a grid? the sprawling megacities introduced in 0.34 were a huge improvement. I still remember how fun it was to explore the new sites and dungeons when that release came out.
Does anyone know the latest release that doesn't have the sleeping armies bug?
>>187832118
Yes, but now it takes me half a fucking day to get out of a dwarf fort. Forts used to be mostly vertical, with a central stairwell and some rhyme and reason to them. You could navigate around inside them. Now they are completely random underground monstrosities, and it fucking sucks.
>>187829557
That is one cute muth.Moth fortress when?
And another test, this time against gobs.
Against gobs in iron armor, bolts are either crap or great. Silver, copper, bronze and iron bolts perform similarly badly, and steel and candy bolts perform similarly well.
Copper armor however is a bit more interesting. The situation is the same, with one exception - iron appears to have problems with piercing copper. While it's better than silver and copper, it doesn't match bronze, steel and candy bolts.
Wooden bolts were also tested and they haven't managed to kill or seriously injure even one goblin. If you want to very quickly train your marksdorfs, capture some goblin invaders, put them behind fortifications without removing their armor and have your dorfs shoot wooden bolts at them.
To sum up, against goblin invasion:
steel = what the flying fuck are you doing with those wafers > bronze > iron > copper = silver >>> elven dildos
>>187833017
Well moth men exist so if you make them playable you can make a moth fortress
And then fill it with cute moth women
>>187832817
it's easy to learn how to navigate them.
all worldgen forts cover exactly 3x3 embark tiles. the stairwell is always located in the central embark tile. however, all you have to do in order to be able to fast travel to the surface is to be somewhere in the central tile. so you don't have to actually find the staircase itself.
to know which one of the 9 tiles you are in when exploring a fort, you look at your compass. the topmost dwarf fort is the one you're in. the compass will lead you to the central tile, and will tell you when you're standing in it. then, you can just fast travel out of the fort.
>>187833339
Maybe it's because I haven't done much adventure mode recently or I'm retarded, but I never even tried fast travelling out near a stairwell.T-Thanks
>>187833281
So did some the dwarves with silver and copper bolts just run out of ammo and not manage to kill the goblins?
>>187833615
Yes, I haven't found a way to make them shoot more than 100 bolts. If I give them two stacks, they just drop one and never use it..
>>187829325
Quests are straightforward now, fame works right for them, it spreads for numerous things, >>YOU CAN ACTUALLY BECOME LOVED FOR BREAKING UP ROBBERIES IN TOWN NOW<<, and you can kick someone in the ear hard enough now that it spins their head entirely off of their body.
>>187814753
When are you gonna make a new mod friend?
>>187833832
Yeah that's a problem, I also heard somewhere that quivers, and just containers in general do not work well in arena mode so they can't be used. By the way, do you make each pair fight one by one?
>>187819378
that's a good argument tho
>>187834054
Yeah, the fights are 1v1 unless stated otherwise.
American elv
>>187833546
I felt like a retard when I found out the local compass changes when you're on the central square from the usual:
\ | /
-O-
/ | \
to:
\ | /
-<- (or ->-)
/ | \
>>187833885
>sprint up to a bunch of bandits as they get ready to shake down some dorf
>aim a grab at the weapon of one of them
>aim a jump and try to hit as many bandits as you can without hitting their victim
>aim a grab at the target in your flight path so they can't dodge
>turn and casually hand the weapon to their original mark
>laugh as a lynch mob forms spontaneously
>>187826287
That's in line with previous research and recommendations on bolts.
>Metal bolts (except for candy) are universally good against all types of armored and unarmored opponents. Although there are small scale differences between their performance (heavier bolts like those made of silver seem to have higher suppressive ability), these are not enough to strongly recommend one type over the other.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=116151.0
>>187833885
>BREAKING UP ROBBERIES IN TOWN NOW
>ROBBERIES
I have never seen this happen.
>>187836838
Bandits do it all the time in hamlets, look for an asterisk in the middle of a little hamlet house cluster.
>>187837461
Oh I've seen them hang around in hamlets but I've never seen them cause trouble for the locals, only attack me.
>>187836665
When it comes to unarmored opponents, yes, it seems like any metal will be okay. Although silver and copper seem to be a bit worse than others. Against armor and inorganics, material matters a lot.
Also candy bolts can go through anything you can encounter in vanilla game now.
>>187837786
If you catch their attention first then yeah they go for you, but if you see them trying to introduce themselves to townsfolk that's a robbery in progress and folks love you for stopping them now.
>tfw want to dorf
>can't dorf
>forced to install Windows 10 on my new laptop because the 7 install was corrupt and Microsoft sucks at supporting their products
they're almost as bad as that fucking toad
>>187845130
install gentoo?
>>187845130
>forced
Nobody's forcing you into anything. Windows 7 is in extended support.Windows 8.1 isn't the absolute worst. It's still better than winblows fucking 10. Actually, consider it a blessing that you will never get any more of Microsoft's fucking "updates" that only install more telemetry, tracking and broken backdoors.
>>187827573
It's vherid dark sand with a few of my own tweaks. You can find it on the wiki's color scheme repository or in vherid's thread on bay12, or if you'd prefer my variant I can copypaste it here when I get off work later.
>>187845130
>installing spyware on your new computer
>>187845130
>new laptop
>7 installed already
>forced to use windows of any type for some reason
Hrrm.
>>187845285
Good suggestion, but that's like seeing someone get a flat tire on their bicycle and suggesting they fabricate and assemble a McLaren Honda MP4/5 and use it instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxC7Ihhu5B4
I mean, if they manage to pull it off then that is a hell of an achievement which almost nobody will fully appreciate, and it'll be awesome until they slam into a retaining wall and burn to death.
Maybe start out with Arch or something a teensy bit less "HA HA YOU WANT A MANUAL, MAKE THE MANUAL BITCH!" first?
>>187847654
>>187845934
I'll see if I can't just revert to 7 or pirate it or some shit later on.
Idk how normies aren't spooked out by this shit. I had to use my friend's laptop to download the iso, and discovered that his camera would log him in by reading his face. He agreed that it was creepy but didn't plan on doing anything about it.
I wonder what version the Toad uses?
>>187849515
I think "install gentoo" is a meme.
>>187849864
He's hopeless anon don't worry about him
Year two of my organic unplanned fort, and a variety of factors has already made some of my dorfs stressed out. One of my militiadorfs was drawn and haggard last time I checked on him. Still, he can stay in the militia. I've decided not to minmax in any way in this fort.
My catacombs here are just piles of corpses in the tunnels. Whenever a ghost gets violent, I slab them, but for the most part, I let the ghosts chill in my fort too.
Warrior elv
is there any way to get these to go faster?
>>187851481
Miners? Nah.
>>187851553
i guess im bottlenecked by movement speed then.
it might be easier to move my food stockpiles to the pit then
>>187735093
>2030.
>toady finishes littarey update, readable procedurally generated novels.
>item description always gives away the killer.
>>187850906
I'm digging it (no pun intended). Aesthetically unfortunate layer stone, though. Mudstone, right? Whenever I have an ugly brown layer stone I mod the raws to make it another color appropriate to the stone (red for sandstone, dark gray for schist, etc). Maybe consider it.
>>187851481
If you mean you want them to level faster, digging out soil layers will train them up sanicfast. If you mean you want them to move faster, you can accomplish that by increasing their agility, which can be accomplished easiest with military training.
>all this rampant furfaggotry
Guess I'll just leave until the update comes out.
>mfw getting human visitors with elf hair bracelets and elf nail earrings
The war is going strong I see.
Kobolds!
>>187849864
Ahhh, I mean, it requires a certain beardiness so I just assumed you were being literal.
>>187852989
>dumb frogposter complains about dumb furposters
>>187852989
he stopped posting several hours ago.
if we assume that he went to bed when he stopped posting, I'd say it's very likely that he's eastern european or asian.
Kobold advertisement.
>>187853394
>pepe is a degenerate fetish relentlessly pushed upon those disgusted by it
>>187853467
Timezones not being straight always makes me angry. I mean, Alaska for example cuts through two other time zones. And just how much of a mess some are, like the islands in the Pacific.
>>187853732
they follow cultural and administrative borders when required. if you live in a region, it's pretty good to be assured that everyone in that region has the same time, and that you don't accidentally "time travel" when you go to work/university and come late because of it.
>>187853625
Atleast kobolds are sexy, pepe isn't.
>>187853968
What the fuck did you just fucking say to me you little bitch?
>>187854038
>using normie pepes
>>187854038
You heard me faggot.
>>187853929
Yeah, they make sense when thinking about them on the local scale, but looking at the whole thing just makes it look like a mess. The state I'm in, all the states around are the same time, so pretty easy.
But in the end we all know that elv is best.
>>187853625
Shitposting is shitposting whether it's furfaggotry or meme reaction images. Neither contributes a goddamn thing to the thread. But go ahead and convince yourself that your off topic relentlessly posted anthropomorphic animal is better than their off topic relentlessly posted anthropomorphic animals.
TOADY YOU FUCKING BITCH NERF THE BITE+SHAKE ALREADY
>>187856571
he he he
>>187856571
why
>>187857101
Not him, but it's clearly stronger than is realistic. Relatively small creatures can bite, do no damage at all, latch on, and then snap your spinal chord a few ticks later with a shake. Animals that do this or something like it IRL (see pit bulls, crocs/gators) don't kill or maim their victims with joint damage, they do it with catastrophic tissue damage at the site of bite, to which any joint damage is entirely incidental.
>>187858168
This, and they can do it even if you're wearing armor, it's pretty much one of the most effective attacks against armor.
So when is tourneyanon coming back
>>187859236
As soon as we can go a day without shitposts.
>>187859562
Well I know that ain't happening.
Well let's just decide who won here http://www.strawpoll.me/13832846
>>187853929
Then along comes Indiana like "yo what's up, I'm awful and hate everything so I'm gonna fuck your shit up now" and boom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana
>>187859236
he's probably back already, and just doesn't want to post when the general is this this state. it's also possible that he feels guilty for attracting all those obnoxious bay12ers and 'dditors here.
desu, I don't give a shit about the tourney anymore. it was fun for the first few rounds, but it quickly lost its charm.
>>187861421
I think the problem is that it went on for too long, waiting an entire week for each set of fights killed the hype, since there were so many gladiators this time.
This is a japanese dragon.
>>187840387
How do you know they're robbing?
This is a japanese tiger woman.
>>187868890
>sample
>>187868996
The full-sized version is too large.
>>187869194
Like fuck it is.
>>187869460
Well the one I downloaded is almost 9mb
This is a japanese minotaur.
I hate all of you.
>>187873025
Me too.
>>187873025
>>187873134
Remember to report.
We're all one happy family here in /dfg/
Who else here plays withaquifers disabled?
>>187875860
Maybe I should try that, I suck with aquifers.
>>187875860
Me.
>>187875860
I've done that for years now. They're tedious to get through and have no use outside megaprojects and FPS death.
>>187688593
>>Dwarf Therapist (Standalone is out of date, use Starter Pack for 43.05):
Haven't played DF in years, and I'm totally blown away that Dwarf Therapist is dead?
How do you guys play? Do you just play an older version? Is there some new utility for managing labors?
My friend was trying to convince me to just use the menus... which seems totally insane. How do you manage a fort of 100+ dwarves without some kind of utility?
>>187877035
v p l
Don't be so histrionic. It isn't hard.
>>187877035
wait, reading about this starter pack. It has a functioning Therapist? Downloading it now...
>187877035
False flag
>>187877303
I just grew dependent on therapist. Have the in game menu's improved? I used to run pretty complex forts, lots of interdependent industries. It's important to know how many threshers and how many weavers and millers and whatever I have going. I really liked being able to see the big picture of how I've distributed labor.
>>187877563
The starter pack has a working therapist, just use that one.
>>187877563
>I just grew dependent on therapist
So outgrow it.
>Have the in game menu's improved?
Nope.
>I used to run pretty complex forts, lots of interdependent industries
That can easily be done without a labor management utility. People did it for years before they existed, and have continued to do so without them for years.
I don't really care how people play the game, but if you're honestly that baffled that it's possible to play without a 3rd party tool then I'd advise you to play without it. You have an obvious deficiency in your DF skillset that you can repair without much effort.
>>187877563
Use manipulator
>>187877767
yeah, just launched it. checking out my options, a lot of buttons to look through.
>>187878028
I sense this is a touchy subject (also the dude accusing me of being false flag, I'm seriously not).
What kind of solutions do you use? How do you keep track of things? Maybe I'm a little OCD, but I like to know things like "5 of my dwarfs are miners" "these three threshers are also set for hauling, these 3 aren't". If a utility isn't tracking my labor allocation, then I'd need to do it by hand... which would be time consuming and probably inaccurate as dwarves die or I miscount.
Is there any way to make this artificial pond fishable? It's connected to a brook via underground canal
>>187878307
>touchy subject
Not at all. Some people here will get triggered at the idea of people using 3rd party utilities, but like I said, I don't care you play. You expressed bewilderment at the very concept of playing without it, though, which is very different from anon using it because he finds it a more convenient solution. You're basically admitting a large blind spot in your ability to play DF. And there's an obvious fix for it.
>What kind of solutions do you use? How do you keep track of things?
I assign dwarves labors as they enter the map and almost never have to change them. I can see at a glance how many dwarves I have in critical industries just from the units screen. I can see which industries have dwarves spread too thin by monitoring the speed of job completion. If I do an industry expansion I know which dwarves can stand an extra workload because I can see which dwarves are pursuing idle activities literally any time I want. I know what I'm trying to accomplish and know how to do so, and can thus manage my labors with very little effort after a dwarf's "new arrival" status has worn off, because I've already assigned them an appropriate labor before they ever had the opportunity to start working. I don't even use nicknames or custom profession titles, though both are available and both are vanilla features designed specifically to help you track your dwarves and their activity. All it takes is practice and the willingness to get a little personal with your dwarves. I find it's a lot easier and more organic than jumping to a spreadsheet every time you want an extra pair of hands in a farm plot.
>>187878837
Wait. Either fish will populate it or they won't. If it's in a biome that supports fish, then it will probably eventually have them.
>>187877018
Aquifers are an amazing water source, wherever you need some water, you just have to dig a vertical shaft, no need for pumps or super long channels. They are also far better than rivers for waterfalls, if you dig directly from below you get a nice, uniform waterfall in any shape and size you want. With rivers you will get completely differently behaving waterfalls depending on many factors like distance from the river source. Also in cold biomes you have to deal with freezing water.
Breaching aquifers isn't usually that bad, in most cases I can just drop the plug. One thing however really pisses me off in aquifers and it's how they can make a huge chunk of sedimentary layer completely useless.
>>187878837
What tilesetvis that?
>>187879926
mayday
this is scamps
>>187880067
>toshiba laptop
TOADYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>187877767
Can't get therapist to launch from the starter pack. Is there any special adjustments I need to make? Double clicking therapist does nothing.
>>187880326
right click to set it to autolaunch with df
>>187880425
didn't work. I found the therapist .exe in the folder and tried that, looks like I'm missing a dll. I'm installing some c++ microsoft visual something or other.
>>187880881
and it worked! Therapist is running. Neato.
>(Toady One) There had been a promise to get pet war dogs to travel with squads that you send on raids, rather than having them stay home waiting for their masters. So that's now properly completed. If your vision of dwarves is less about crafting in the mountains, and more about a lone dwarf descending from the hills to attack a village with a pack of a dozen hounds, your vision is now a reality. That's how I tested it, anyway. Five of the dogs were struck down, but the humans will now think twice about whatever it was they were thinking about, that's for sure.
>Along with this, the game now more properly handles babies that are carried off on site raids. There are still a few issues (which I'm not going to handle for the first release). For instance, if a baby is the lone survivor of a failed raid, they will unerringly crawl back to your fortress all on their own. At least they are no longer active combatants. Also fixed various issues with cancelling squad orders.
>>187881603
What the fuck
>>187881603
HOW LONG NIGGER FROG
>>187857101
I once saw a human swordsman rip a night creature's headoff with like one shake. (The same swordsman went on to fight in another lair and he knocked the night creature over, ripped off its trunk, and started hitting it with it)
>>187872497
>minotaurus (beastman)
>>187883685
Minotaurs can be just another type of beastman, just look at Warhammer.
just embarked in a rocky wasteland
anything to note or fun things to do?
>>187881603
>For instance, if a baby is the lone survivor of a failed raid, they will unerringly crawl back to your fortress all on their own.
...Wouldn't it make more sense for them to be taken by the enemies?
>>187888156
Yes, he's saying this is a silly behavior but that he isn't going out of his way to fix it just yet.
WE FINNA
>Page 10
It is sad but not unexpected.
Nothing else to do now but post elv
>>187891785
fuck off
>>187891785
plain "bump" posts are literally 1000x better than this
>>187891785
owo
o w o
O W O
OWO!!
benis
>>187884304
Aside from evil biomes most embarks play pretty similarly. If you've ever played on any other kind of desert or a glacier you'll know what to expect. You're likely to have fewer trees than most other embarks until you breach a cavern. If you're on a savage biome you may have giant or man variants of the normal wildlife.
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>>187894156
In the future. I'll meet you there.
When Toady (eventually, inevitably) adds underwater races, how would one destroy them?
>>187894925
by waiting until winter arrives
>>187894925
By going into the sea and killing them
Duh
>>187894925
Botes.
>>187894415
Not if I end it right here
>>187894925
Not even meming, magma.
>>187894925
BLOW UP THE OCEAN
don't die pls
Too much elf, kobold, gobbo, and beastman scum in this thread. Needs more dwarves.
>>187752509
I really would not mind a proper normal roguelike with DF-style combat. It's probably the single best turn-based combat system I've ever seen, even with all its weirdness. I've had some truly memorable struggles and it would be amazing to see it in a more simplistic "game-ey" dungeon crawler environment.
>>187902606
Humorously, the only pogroms mentioned in any "official" df stories by the Tarns involved dwarves (Half Dwarf) and gnomes (Power goal snippet)
There was a story about the dwarves burning a forrest to get rid of the local kobolds but that ends with the survivor(s) luring the dwarves to into a deathtrap in search of a lost fortress or something
Toady adding civil unrest shit would be badass as all hell.
>Time to start my gobbo bard in this human city!
>Everything's on fire
>animal man corpses piled up and burning
>goblins hanging from lamposts
>Bloody, club-wielding dorfs, humans, and elves are running right towards you
What's the oldest age you've ever got an adventurer to? My record is currently a 56 year old human who I retired in a bandit fort.
>For instance, if a baby is the lone survivor of a failed raid, they will unerringly crawl back to your fortress all on their own.
The image of that made me laugh for some reason
08/31/2017
There had been a promise to get pet war dogs to travel with squads that you send on raids, rather than having them stay home waiting for their masters. So that's now properly completed. If your vision of dwarves is less about crafting in the mountains, and more about a lone dwarf descending from the hills to attack a village with a pack of a dozen hounds, your vision is now a reality. That's how I tested it, anyway. Five of the dogs were struck down, but the humans will now think twice about whatever it was they were thinking about, that's for sure.
Along with this, the game now more properly handles babies that are carried off on site raids. There are still a few issues (which I'm not going to handle for the first release). For instance, if a baby is the lone survivor of a failed raid, they will unerringly crawl back to your fortress all on their own. At least they are no longer active combatants. Also fixed various issues with cancelling squad orders.
>>187905819
Reminds me about that guy who embarked on a place with two night-troll lairs and a swarm of alligators, and after dying multiple times with armed and trained dwarves, just said fuck it and embarked with like 60, war dogs. It was a good one, wish I'd screencapped it.
>plan out a 4 z-layer fortress
>hit stone
>dig down 4 layers
>hit the first cavern on the 4th
time to restart, why the fuck was the cavern only 6 layers below the surface
>>187910958
Why don't you deal with it and build some glass floors? You elf.
>>187910958
Just change "Z Levels Above Layer 1" parameter in advanced world gen to something like 10 or 15 if this bothers you so much.
>>187910958
>4
How do you even get a proper fortress with only 4 levels
>>187908885
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/175229942/#q175267487
That took longer to find than I expected.
>>187881603
>If your vision of dwarves is less about crafting in the mountains, and more about a lone dwarf descending from the hills to attack a village with a pack of a dozen hounds, your vision is now a reality. That's how I tested it, anyway
This is pretty cool actually. I dont mind a couple weeks of delay if he not only bugfixes but adds content on top of it
>For instance, if a baby is the lone survivor of a failed raid, they will unerringly crawl back to your fortress all on their own. At least they are no longer active combatants.
mfw
>>187913062
want me to screencap it?
>>187913062
Heh, I forgot about the camp full of goblins, thanks for digging it up again anon.
>>187915315
How big is it possible for an aquifer to be?
I haven't given the dorfs all the attention they need. They've been without beds, mugs, taverns and temples for too long, now several of them are throwing tantrums all the time. This includes two of my legendary militiadorfs.
Industry is doing good, though. Sadly, there's no sand, so I have to do with iron bars as windows.
Pic related shows my temple, library and mayor's office.
>>187921395
The level below.
>>187915863
>my embark was screencapped by someone
God damn I feel all warm on the inside
>minotaur comes
>20 marksdwarves on the tower
>10 at the gate
>finally get to test out my military
>stray marksdwarf kills it by bashing it in the head with a crossbow
t-thank
>>187921723
pretty good, I guess. all human megas/semimegas (except bronze collossi) are pretty underwhelming, but at least minotaurs are slightly better at putting up a fight. giants, cyclopes and ettins are completely useless against any armed opponent.
Elv is peaceful
>>187920106
Biggest Ive seen was 8 levels, but it's pretty rare, usually they are 1-4 levels deep
Given the state of /dfg/ right now, I've decided to try to boost the quality of content by starting a fort and updating you guys on it, giving you lot a say in major decisions. Of course, that makes the first one what sort of fort it should be. First response (as long as it's not too tricky to find an appropriate embark) get it.
>>187923874
Vegetarian fort.
You can only use wood.
Pick one or both.
>>187924032
Right, so no stone. Does that mean no mining, or just no using stone in crafting? Because one is rather more extreme than the other.
>>187924170
You can mine but you can't use stone.
>>187924242
Okay. Sounds interesting, but to make it a little more extreme I'll be doing it on a glacier. Btw, are ores allowed? Because if not that really limits how far the game can go.
>>187924371
If you feel it'll make things more interesting sure.
>>187924464
Okay, setting up embark now.
>>187924464
>>187924507
Ice, Deep Metal, Flux Stone, with Humans and Goblins as neighbors (+ a volcano). Now to set up embark profiles.
>>187923874
Thanks. Looking forward to progress.
>>187924710
Seems like no anvils are available for the embark. Oh well, guess we're going without for now.
>>187924371
>Glacier
>no stone
I remember my last glacier fort. I really enjoyed making an ice block castle, but the lack of water and wood was challenging early on. I brought a lot of wood in advance (mainly for beds and barrels - no pottery in that version), and probed the caverns early on. Getting a water source set up and securing a small patch of underground wood so workers wouldn't be bothered by the wildlife proved to be critical. Selectively trading for stuff I was missing was very interesting too. Also remember that problem with the boundary between stone and ice - some wonkyness with melting carved stairs occurred. No idea if that
but is fixed by now. I doubt it. Ultimately, the fort got fucked due to some bug with migrant loyalties/affiliation.
Probably one of my favorite forts.
Those tantruming soldiers I mentioned? Well, one of them beat one of my scholars to death in the library. Note the ghost peacefully drifting by the window.
>>187925114
That's why I'm planning to go straight to the caverns and wall off a section. ANYWAY!
Welcome to DrivenDoor, a fort to be set up by the Grey Swords. Strike the earth!
>>187925367
... And it crashed. mfw. Time to restart.
>>187925576
The Gods of RNG have decided that we're doing a haunted, stone-less tundra instead (don't worry, I kept the volcano), while at war with Goblins and Elves. Well, I never said it wouldn't be challenging.
>>187925691
Spiralknife it is. Bad news though, going to be gone for a few hours, but I'll be back later to start playing.
>>187927169
>oino_mancy and lust_secret
>>187927169
>Fancysuitors was created by Loli
>>187927328
>some shitty goblin musical band goes deep into caverns after I reject their petition for residency and gets torn to pieces by fucking crundles
>>187929485
>tfw you'll never get your throat cut out by an elf while she presses her tits against your face
Why even live
>>187926493
Okay, I'm back, and ready to start playing again. In the units list, turns out there's eight reindeer zombies. At least they aren't husks, right?
>>187930352
So, using a ton of logs in my wagon, I've walled up the nine tiles, and put all the dwarves in a burrow. It's the only way (because migrants and traders can go fuck themselves).
The reindeer are on the move, but the final wall is still not up! Will the dwarves complete the construction in time?
>>187930948
The answer is yes. At the expense of a few willow logs, and one work animal, the dwarves are safe, in a casket of willow.
>>187931057
DIG
Almost an entire z level full of this fucking water and it's still not empty.
I might have to build a fuckhuge water tower to contain it.
>>187931057
post pics with only noteworthy updates or questions/suggestions you dong, otherwise it's just a bunch of bump posts
>>187931173
Uh
It looks like you are trying to empty an aquifer
Is this correct?
>captcha: water drive
>>187931170
>>187931208
Upon the placement of the last few planks of willow, the dwarves of Spiralknife hear an ethereal voice from above: "DIG!". Upon their compliance, they find that the site upon which their caravan was parked, was in fact upon the very lip of a volcano!
>>187931269
Yup
>water from aquifer go into wooden box
>water from wooden box go into everything that isn't my fort
>since it's apparently not enough i built another pump on the surface with a windmill to empty the water off the edge of the map
I just wanted to dig stones and shit
>>187931492
kek
>>187931492
If you dont mind spoilers,you should probably read something about aquifers.
>>187931410
Alright, this leaves /dfg/ with a choice - do I dig to the caverns to make a fortress there, or do I stay in dwarven tradition and attempt to make a wood only, carved from stone fortress? First reply wins.
>>187931712"Aquifers can't be drained"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>187931732
Live in wood like elv
Shit, isn't the first siege supposed to be small? I honestly don't know if my militia is ready for this.
In any case, they better be, because I have no way of sealing them off at the moment.
>>187931957
Caverns it is! Going to dig some stockpiles for shit from the caravan in the dirt layers first, then I'll breach the cavern layers.
>>187932167
Living in cavern like kobold is ok too I guess
How do I load my gate entrance with traps without fucking my guests?
>>187932548
Now we are going to the butchery.
>>187933010
They shouldn't spring on friendlies in most scenarios.
>>187932167
It's approaching that time of year that we all know and love, yes, a migrant wave shall soon be arriving. In preparation for this, I've decided to make a small gatehouse, in which there will be a trade depot and a pair of drawbridges, to filter possible invaders. Hopefully my dwarves survive the barrage of undead crows coming their way while doing it, though.
>>187933152
So kobold breasts are gonna be on the menu? Nice.
>>187933250
I'll be interested to see this develop. People really should do this more often, the only semi-recent one I can remember was that drunk dude with no axes
>>187933250
So, uh, anyone else remember that Yaks can starve? I sure didn't. He reanimated in the hallway and slaughtered my entire fort. I guess this means I re claim the site now, with an actual military this time.
>>187933673
>>187933641
Oh lol, well start a new one if you want, maybe it'll be the lucky one.
>>187933673
Seriously anon
Well bring strong dwarves next time then
Is there a way to forbid tavern guests from accessing some parts of my fortress?
>>187933641
drunkanon was an artistic genius
>>187933842
>>187933885
Agreed, I didn't think that a haunted biome would be reanimating, of all things. Anyway, this time I'm bringing a good strong military, but that gives me a vital decision:
What weapons do I use?
>>187933673
They are grazers.
>>187934014
Axes!
>>187934040
Yeah, This time they're going straight into the volcano, can't be having any zombified Yak this time. Anyway, all the materials I need for a healthy new fort are already there from the, ah, initial explorers. That'll let me spend more on arming my REAL starting seven, so hopefully they can take on the undead menace more successfully.
>>187934202
excellent shitpost
>>187934202
Of course, it's the dwarven way.
>>187934264
RIGHT. We've arrived, and for some reason the idiots have decided to park the caravan on top of the hut the lost expedition built. This time, there're no undead sighted on the surface, but who knows if the first Seven are still lurking in the depths...
>>187935204
why in the world did you follow advice from an anime spammer who probably doesn't even play the game?
axes are among the worst weapons you can use against undead. enjoy getting bugged unkillable zombie heads everywhere.
>>187934000
>t. drunkanon
>>187934202
>sharps in a reanimating biome
Not only are you a shitposter, you're stupid too.
>>187921395
>They've been without beds, mugs, taverns and temples for too long, now several of them are throwing tantrums all the time.
Nice bait. Everyone knows Toady removed tantrums from the game.
>>187935646
>>187935762
I said that I'd do what the first poster said, so that's what I'm doing. Anyway, something like 60% of the ore on the map is Galena, so silver war hammers are gonna be on the table as soon as a metal industry is set up.
Gimme a minute to go make a cup of tea first though.
>>187935762
No i'm drunkanon (not currently drunk)
>>187936285
That said, I already have all of my military stuck beating on a destroyed head right now. On a happier note, the building enclosing my wagon is complete, which means that all of my dwarves (bar my hypnotized military) are safe and sound in their pillbox. Of course, this means that the seven original explorers are somewhere in the mines, and could strike from within at any time.
>>187937376
In fact, it's not even that. The only one inside is my armourer/farmer, all the others are outside, dying or dead. Reclaims are fucking hard!
>>187937601
The last survivor, Besmar Marksclasped, Armourer. Through the walls, alone, he can hear the echoing screams as the two expeditions clash, one breathing, the other not.
Yeah, no, I can't do creative writing well. What I will say is that old Besmar is definitely the only survivor right now, the others all being dead or missing, along with the original expedition. Hopefully our lonely hero can survive until the first set of migrants, with the two caravans worth of supplies with him. God, I hope there's a pick somewhere down there with him...
>>187938147
>he
>>187938817
She, then, I was a little preoccupied to read it. Anyway, it doesn't particularly matter now - somewhere there was a hole in her "impregnable fortress", so the crundle corpses are getting in.
>>187938952
...but, against all the odds, she beats the two intruders to death (undeath?), giving her time to seal up any potential leaks in her barricade.
Zombies have reached the entrance, and only two flimsy willow doors are holding them back. Alone, tired, and pickless, what should Besmar do?
>>187939751
Start farming.
>>187939913
Done, and done. A small 2x2 plot is set up, and the scant few plump helmets she has available are carefully placed in the ground. Other than this small farm plot, she has some furniture, some wood, a ton and a half of meat, and a crundle corpse. What shall /dfg/ do next?
>my dwarves kill a father of a giant family
>immediately experience a power outage and have to go back 2 months because no save
Is it his vengeance from the afterlife?
>>187940485
She's in quite a hard spot, I guess waiting for the caravan is the only option. Well, I guess she could make a carpenter's workshop to make stuff, like a shield maybe.
>>187940989
Okay, so a caravan has arrived. In the meantime, I had her making doors and blocks, so that surface construction can occur faster and, therefore, safer. I've sent her out to complete the drawbridge and depot. Godspeed, Besmar.
>>187941892
Oh shit, the merchants left just as I finished my bridge and depot. Anyhow, next I need to make a mechanics workshop to actually operate the bridge. How bad can this go?
>>187942398
Hooray, migrants! This should really beef up our population, not to mention help reduce poor Besmars loneliness. Hopefully they can negotiate their way in between all the reanimated heads to get to the bunker.
>>187942794
... though they aren't particularly worth saving. However, anything more than a single dwarf is valuable, so into the "fort" they go!
>>187942398
>mechanics workshop
Negative, sir. No stone, remember? You'll have to get a metal industry up if you want mechanisms.
>>187943059
>>187943158
>construct rock mechanisms
Ya fucked up.
>>187943428
>>187943158
Oh shit, I forgot. So, /dfg/, what do I do now, just deconstruct the mechanisms, or revert to a previous save?
>>187943823
Is atomsmashing really an exploit when it comes to those immortal heads? Because I still haven't gotten the migrants into the fort, they're too afraid of the heads.
>>187943823
Woops meant for>>187943661
>>187943989
Don't worry about it, I got what you meant. Also, just realized that before they left the merchants left some clay, which I can build a wood furnace with. CHARCOAL AHOY!
>>187943661
Forbid and hide or (eventually) atom smash the mechanisms. You can still legally use the mech workshop for making traction benches with your conduct so long as none of the components are stone, so you don't have to deconstruct if you don't need the log you built it with.
So, my "explorers" (migrants with any military skill at all) were sent down the shaft to re-reveal the deep outpost. All that was down there was a wooden spear and empty rooms. no undead migrants in sight. Phew.
Anyway, this leaves me a conundrum: do I set up my fortress in the dirt layer like Lonely Besmar was forced to do, or do I dare to go deeper?
>>187943978
It's an intended mechanic, Toady even made a legends string for bridge deaths. Not an exploit.
>>187944672
Go deeper, there is no reason not to, what could go wrong anyway?
>>187944672
DEEPER
>>187944698
>>187944959
>>187944965
Okay, I'm heading deeper and keeping in mind an atom-smasher based defense corridor then! Anyway, I've used some iron bars I embarked with, and anvils, to make a pair of forges. Should go perfectly with an accomplished weaponsmith who arrived in the last migrant wave.
>>187945697
Better get some iron mechanisms made if you want to smash anything.
>>187946095
No iron on the map, I'm afraid. I think I'll have to trade for it. Copper should do though, right?
By the way, how do I go about making a magma furnace? I've only got around 200 logs left, and don't want to waste more than I have to on charcoal.
>>187946378
>You can make forges out of charcoal
My game just got substantially easier.
>>187946378
any metal mechanism will be fine; just saw you said you had some iron
For furnaces b->e and you'll have the magma smelter/glass furnace/kiln available. Shouldn't need a wood furnace or charcoal with a magma smelter/forge pair.
>>187946378
Yeah, you can make mechanisms from any weapons grade metal, but of those only iron and steel are magma proof. Magma furnace needs one magma proof material and has to be constructed over at least one open space. It won't function until that open space has magma in it.
>>187946860
I embarked with iron bars with my first forges in mind, hoping to trade more to make more forges, kilns, et cetera, but as it turns out, charcoal counts as a magma-safe material, so I'll be using that. I'm pretty sure it counts as wood.
>>187947042
Charcoal isn't magma safe. It isn't even fire safe. The components for a wood furnace, which you were trying to build here >>187946721, don't have to be either. Charcoal won't even appear in the material list for the actual furnaces and forges (require fire safe), nor the magma workshops (require magma safe).
>>187947697
Right, okay. I'll use metal instead, hopefully I have enough iron left for one or two. :/
This is it, ladies and gentlemen. The moment you've all been waiting for. It's the moment where the dwarves of Spiralknife breach the caverns! (accidentally)
>>187947968
What do the fine dwarves of Spiralknife do, /dfg/? As always, first response (as long as it's not too far-fetched) gets the choice!
>>187948226
Explore the caverns obviously
>>187948309
Okay! So, should they send some poor sod down there immediately, or should they wait to get a little bronze on their bodies?
>>187948508
Armor is important, terrible things could happen if you don't use it.
>>187948728
Ah, of course.
Also, while waiting, I was looking at the civs screen, and found something that our illustrious kobold poster might enjoy.
(I cannot stop laughing, this might be the best thing that's ever happened to me in DF)
>>187948728
So, as I went to create armour at my only forge, this happened. Yup. My weaponsmith has mooded, at perfectly the wrong time. I can only hope that he makes something cool.
>>187949465
Forgot the fucking picture.
>>187865920
Because they are standing around a stranger, have a certain skin color, and act a certain way, you know, like a bunch ofgoblins.
>>187948987
>oh come on, it can't be that funny
>Faprumer
Holy shit, anon delivered.
>>187950754
Yeah, RNG can be great.
Sorry for not posting for a while, I've reached (and solved) a little problem - my Weaponsmith wanted some bones. Bones. In a reanimating biome. I mean, come on dude, why?! Anyhow, I butchered a donkey, and half of my entire fort was fighting it at one point. So, what do I do? There's only one option - create a cave in to destroy it. Worked rather well, in my opinion.
>>187951713
buipd cage traps around the butchery
>>187952037
Mechanisms are valuble. Anyway, bones are only going to be used in moods, so I think I have enough now anyway. If I need to get more bones though, then I'll remember cage traps. Thanks Anon.
In other news: reanimated horses are freaking tanks, this one seems like it's being ridden by a horseman of the apocalypse, now that it's taken out my entire pasture by itself.
Is there any way to encrust specific furniture that isn't a massive pain in the ass?
>>187952229
Did I mention that my best soldier is a tier-6 speardwarf?
(inb4 "spears don't work on undead" - I know, to be honest I'm kind of disappointed that it isn't a silver war hammer. For roleplay purposes though, my militia captain being made an artifact spear for the first cavern exploration is pretty cool though)
>>187952598
Here's the description, for those interested. It's pretty standard for an artifact weapon.
>>187952598
It's better than nothing
>>187952857
I mean, that weaponsmith is Legendary+5 now, so that's awesome for my militia.
So, in the spirit of awesome weaponry, here's another question for you, /dfg/, what do I do now: rush adamantine (and try finding and processing it as fast as possible), or go for a more steady fortress.
>>187953052
Candy armor would help.
>>187952349
Why the fuck do people post these things?
>>187953218
Okay, dig down to find some sweet, sweet Candy, right now. On it.
>>187953052
Well rushing adamantine eould be more fun but risking losing the fort after getting this far would also be kinda disappointing.
>>187952598
An artifact bronze spear is an excellent weapon. It can kill literally anything in vanilla DF except procgenned creatures made of steel. It's not ideal for zombies, but it can effectively kill them better than any other one-handed edged weapon except perhaps a morningstar or dagger. In the long run, when zombies are the least of your worries, well-equipped speardwarves will be the best thing you could have on hand.
>>187953294
I know right
They should post cute kobolds instead
>>187952775
100000 years in mspaint
it's not easy being the guard captain
>>187953875
go help your brother with the update zach
>>187953324
Mmm. Well, by "rush adamantine", I can't really do much more than dig down and hope to find a cavern layer with a column in, so it'll likely take some time even if I rush it (which I kind of will, but not too hastily). I'm still not even a year into the fort, and need to wait for a caravan for iron first too.
>>187953692
Agreed, and it seems like the cavern fauna is all living anyway, so it should dispatch of them rather easily too. Okay, since we're discussing military, there's a few options here, and I'd like suggestions (as long as they don't involve marksdwarves).
>>187953996
what update?
Finished up my prison and guard captain office.
>>187953971
What a disgusting font. How do you deal with that?
>>187881603
Hah, been offline since we got hit with Houston's sloppy seconds and lost power yesterday, didn't notice this.
>At least they are no longer active combatants.
See, this+babies born with knives would have been amazing, better yet if you modded multiple-litter births, send mothers offsite to infiltrate a site, once there they... er... deploy(?) a squad of little knife-wielding beards.
>>187953875
Holy crap, someone drew something I posted! Also, do you find it a little ironic that it's a bronze spear of a dude called "Brassvaults" too?
Also, something is going round webbing things, and I'm not sure what...
>>187954306
pls no h8
>>187954306
(It's a tileset they made, so one would assume they like it, it's better than my "GRADIENT SHADE ALL THE THINGS" phase was)
Woah hey we're gonna hit the image limit.
>>187954626
Woah, this is a first for me, despite having played for seven years.
>>187954675
>my "GRADIENT SHADE ALL THE THINGS" phase
I saw a screenshot of one of those earlier in the thread too and it made my eyes sore trying to read gradated text.
>>187954626
Jesus christ my eyes
>>187954984
you know who to thank for that. now no one can post relevant images because two faggots spammed irrelevant ones.
>>187955094
he took bones to a tanner shop? this is also a first for me.
>>187954457
So, these must be the most boring set of rooms I've ever made. But hey, my idlers need something to do if they can't whittle at stone all day.
>>187955275
D-does that make relevant, Anon?
>>187955468
a bed? an ok artifact, but I've never had a moody dorf make one at a tanner's shop before.
THE UPDATE TOADY
WHERE IS IT
>>187955275
HAHA KOBOLDS!
AM I RIGHT???
HAHA! ELV!!!!
HAHA!
>>187955974
40 week-, I mean, 40 days from now.
>>187956209
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>187955696
Because everyone's talking about the image limit, should I stop posting until the next thread?
Also, some Kobolds arrived. Iron knives? Don't mind if I do, they'll make fine mechanisms!
Kob
>>187956394
too many furryposters clogging up actual dwarf fortress screenshots. Sad!
keep up the fortposting anon I might just have todraw another comicabout your fort.
>>187956467
terrible final image
>>187953767
That's really not any better
>>187956640
Ooh, nice, that last one was great. I've just started a backlog of images and posts, but since the whole point of this fort was to give /dfg/ a say in how it's run, I think that I might stop playing for tonight. I'll probably be on tomorrow, but no guarantees.
On the checklist of things to do soon-ish though:
>Military, headed by the speardwarf with the artifact
>More extensive cavern exploration
>Trial by fire (literally), by learning how to use magma funaces, smelters, et cetera
>Weaponise the magma
>Chew on some lovely candy
>Hand out some candy to the Elves I'm at war with (and the undead)
All I can say is, thank fuck I didn't embark next to a tower this time.
>>187954219
Pretty nice. I did something kind of similar with Relicwebs' prison, except I stacked the cells vertically in a cliff face instead of horizontally. Yours looks like they can be seen from almost anywhere in the fort. Public punishment as a deterrent and whatnot, I like it.
How would a deadliest warrior episode play out with dwarf VS Goblins?
>>187960305
dwarf wins
>>187955468
Wow, macabre moods have always been rare, but in recent versions they're even moreso. Like a heterosexual unicorn winning the lottery and then getting hit by a meteorite.
>>187960928
i have never seen a macabre mood once in my nearly 10 years of playing this game
>>187819958
Toady would have to take it upon himself to make underwater sites.
The bummer is that because of the way water physics work there's no way to have air pockets in a non-enclosed underwater structure.
>>187961952
There are two ways. One is the (probable) bug that causes water in a u bend to rise 1z less than it should, the other is to make the only openings to the structure diagonal, in which case water will only rise to the level of the highest diagonal opening.
>>187960305
Goblin wins
Guys i just figured it out ok.
Hear me out!Tourneyanon is Toady
>>187962774
Bullshit
>>187962774
Whoeyeanon?
>>187962997
how fresh art thou
>>187963092
It's a joke anon
>>187963410
oh heh good one anon
why didn't toady add different types of water wheels? at the moment, all we have is the undershot wheel.
personally, I'd really like to see horizontal water wheels in the game. they were widespread in medieval europe, so they definitely belong in the setting.
>>187965013
Overshot wheels are the best waterwheels, period. 30% extra efficiency is the most necessary thing since sliced bread.
So, i'm following the double slit method here
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Double-slit_method
And i have a problem
I'm at the "Then build three other walls (one by one)." part but the picture is missing.
Can anyone tell me which wall i'd need to build?
>kill all goblins but the siege doesnt end
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>187967445
Nevermind, i found a video that explained it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzdUw92pXH4
>>187968167
No anon, it's TOADYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>187965013
If I had to guess, my guesses would be (in order):
a) welcome to the alpha of dwarf fortress
b) he decided that they were similar enough in material cost and effect that it was unnecessary to have more than one since everyone would just build the most effective one anyway
c) he doesn't know there's more than one kind
d) he doesn't care there's more than one kind
>>187955206
Yeah, sorry, it looked neat while I was doing it in gimp and it was just something that I got used to without realizing it was a fucking pain in the ass to anyone else.
>>187961952
>read this
>think "like a moon pool entrance? I've made those"
>remember they were sub-magma campsites I built for magma-safe adventurers
Yeah, air pressure should be able to keep water out but it isn't really modeled outside of dust and shit during cave-ins.
>tfw you realize boats implies sailboats
>sailboats implies wind pressure
>wind pressure implies Toady will end up adding things like tornadic vortices and hurricanes alongside air pressure decreasing with altitude as another "oh, whoops I accidentally a physics engine" thing like he did with minecarts
>boatfort release: 2025?
>>187968167
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=163671
>>187936674
I requested that pic
to this day, I still apreciate it from time to time
Kobolds
Shitposter. Please go through the thread and delete all the shitimages that accompanied your shitposts so that the rest of us can utilize the thread as intended.
You guys know that hitting image limit is an acceptable reason to make a new thread right?
>>187972147
So, should we make a new thread?
>>187972721
Not really, blame the furfag shitposters.
ded thread
ded game
new:
>>187974219
>>187972721
I don't fell like that's really a good reason though. Plus they'll just post more pictures next thread.
>>187693649
>>187825320
>>187825930
>>187822051
>image limit
Yeah, obviously the problem here definitely isn't one or two morons spamming garbage.
>>187754295
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that's all I can fit in the character limit