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Blockheads and Bunnies edition

>Fallout 1 and 2
>General Information etc:
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV (embed)

>Fallout 3 and New Vegas
>General Information, Mod Recommendations & Run Ideas etc:
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy (embed)
>Babbys first modding guide
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/fallout-new-vegas-sigourns-recommended-mods.114486/

>Fallout 4
>General Information, Mod Recommendations etc:
https://pastebin.com/2W7Dhy69 (embed)

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository
>Steam Guide of good mods
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=752795517

>GUNetwork
>Rips (Primarily for NV):
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B45SllNAhiQscHhxR28tZ1FwNTA

>How to Convert Skyrim / Oblivion / NV / FO3 etc. Models to FO4 & Bodyslide Guide:
http://pastebin.com/MWEPKj5m (embed)

>OP Pasta
>Please use the info from this link when creating new threads:
https://pastebin.com/raw/dFMpLWAX (embed)

Pre-war thread: >>186658529
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>>186774837
>body is a literal rectangle as well
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>>186774837
((((((((((((((((((((((WIDE)))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>someone spent time and effort so i can open and close this one toilet cover

Why?
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>uninstall geforce experience because a different game kept crashing on launch and some guy on reddit suggested the fix
>it worked for some reason
>says some new update made it not do good with games

>waitadarnminute
>stopped playing fo4 for a while because i kept dropping frames for no reason
>checked
>its back to normal

what the fuck nvidia
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6th for legendaries.
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Waifus in the op

>>186775028
Going for realism I guess.
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>>186775182
Probably from a cut quest and they didn't bother removing it.
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>>186775182

Its from the quest where you pee in the tank so that when they flush pee comes out
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>>186775626

Upper decker master race.
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>Fallout 4 won't be getting more DLC
>paid mods are gimped and add very little
Everything is bad
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I really like this power helmet. I wish there was a version without the rebar.
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Good morning, Vault-Tec calling!
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>pick up a distress call
>it's some lady who got locked inside a jewelry store safe when the bombs dropped
>find the place
>open the door
>6 master locked pre-war safes inside with a key nearby
>get ready for all those pocket watches and silverware
>ammo and pipe pistol
>ammo and pipe pistol
>ammo and pipe pistol
>ammo and laser pistol
>ammo and pipe pistol
>ammo and pipe pistol
>not even one silver fork
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are there any mods to make the guns more realistic? that was my favorite thing about new vegas.

i specifically don't want to run around using whatever the fuck pic related is supposed to be
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>>186777271
Then search for an assault rifle replacer mod.
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>>186777271
a mod just came out that replaces that pile of shit with that service rifle mods assets

>>186776723
don't you just love the loot system?!
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>>186776723
Would it really have been that hard to have a standard pre war loot pool to draw from if they really wanted to go with the random loot route
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>>186778135
pipe weapons are pre-war though
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>>186778135
The technology isn't there yet.
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>>186778135
>pre war
according to FO4 EVERYTHING is fucking prewar

even the laser musket(see those magazines with the kid holding a fancy toy version)
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>>186778276
I really doubt people in a booming futuristic USA needed makeshift guns
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PS4 owners what mods are you using? Immersive Gameplay? Charles' Overhaul? The World Is Dying? MADNESS?
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>>186778473
They did when they were hard to acquire legally and prohibitively expensive.
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Bullet sponges or 1-2 shotable weaklings?
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>>186778473
You seem to forget that before everythig nwas nuked, there was this htign called the reosurce wars, where every metal was basically mined to nothing.

You also seem to forget that pre-war America was facing massive civil unrest every major city was under martial law, military soldiers were killing civvies for no reason, and, IIRC, gun confiscations have been mentioned before.

With the lack of materials in the public secotr, and the military taking people's guins, people would have had to resort to things like pipe weapons to be armed.

If anything, pipe weapons are Fallout actually really acknowledging just how shit of a situation pre-war America was in before the nukes dropped.
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>>186778605
>Guns
>hard to acquire
>Fallout USA
Yeah, no. Unless Boston criminal element was making weapons for Canadian citizens/resistance/criminal elements under martial law
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>>186774837
I want to fuck that control panel.
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>>186778713
lern the lore, kid
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>>186778706
If there are enough resources to have nuclear powered cars and personal robots I don't see how that would be possible
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>>186778916
Lore states nuclear powered cars were prohibitively expensive, as were personal robots.
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>>186778667
3x damage both ways.
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>>186778407
That's one of my biggest issues with FO4
90% of everything is pre-war
Deliverer, a Walther PPK was made in 1929 and is the most advanced ballistic weapon of the pre-war era. What the fuck.
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>>186779106
It's very easily solved by splitting containers between pre-war and post-war. Literally just have clean boxes contain pre-war shit and dirty boxes contain post-war shit. It would take one competent developer maybe a week to implement, because it took me two to jury rig something shitty that I eventually gave up on.
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tfw actually enjoy the idea of the creation club
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>>186779764
I would too if the mods weren't so small, I've heard 4000 forms is very small
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a bit off topic but do you know what update Batlefield 1 is getting now? there's a 3gb download going on.
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>>186779764
Me too. I just hope the execution, quality and pricing is as enjoyable.
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>>186779836

I was just reading on the new .esl format.

First thing I thought was "its gonna be way harder to pirate"
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>>186779864
What the fuck, anon.
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>>186779764
I do too, but I'm ready to be disappointed/angry with the execution.
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>>186780027
>First thing I thought was "its gonna be way harder to pirate"
Not really, no.
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>>186780173

b-but read only
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>>186780061
/v/ didn't say anything so i thought some of you might know
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>>186780234
Then you didn't read far enough. You can change it to esp, edit, then back to esl.
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>>186777271
there's a mod that renames it to machine gun, about all I'd need along with pretending it's a post war gun
>2077
>united states army using nuclear powered tank suits and commie killing mechs
>lol watercooled lewis gun standard issue
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>>186781092
>Black Isle makes bulky pseudo-futuristic design
>OMG SO COOL
>Black Isle adds ovie memeguns and modern weapons
>OMG SO COOL
>Obsidian makes retarded pseudo-realistic 5mm AR14
>OMG SO COOL
>Bethesda makes bulky pseudo-futuristic design
>WTF BETHESDA IT'S NOT REAL FALLOUT
You just can't win with obsidiots.
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>>186781459
>>Bethesda makes bulky pseudo-futuristic design
That's the thing, it's fucking WW1 aesthetics instead of 50s-80s.
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>>186781459
Difference is, that gun (and by extension the 12.7mm) looks cool. The assault rifle does not.
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>>186781602
Not him, but I like the look of the assault rifle.
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>>186781602
>t.obsidiot
Amazing.
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>>186781459
>pseudo futuristic
yes, water cooling, THE FUTURE
leave the shitposting to the professionals
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>>186781678
I can see why, there are bits I like about it too, but big barrel and all the extra bits of bullshit that clearly have no function ruin it for me.
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>>186781678
as I've said before, THAT should have been a "pipe" weapon, stuff like the simple bulky design and water cooling would make sense if you're a settler or raider without advanced firearms knowledge
my biggest problems are the godawful misnaming, and the fact that that was a united states military weapon in the 21st century, all because todd was like "lol need something bulky for power armor" and has never seen an m249 in his life
fuck if you want bulky why not bring back the jackhammer from the black isle games? would help the shotgun variety too
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>>186781862
I actually feel like Fallout 4 did a lot to make many of the traditionally stupid/boring looking weapons less shit.

Like the power fist. In Fallout 1-3, its just a glove with some psnumatic thing strapped on it directly. The kickback of which wouldl ikely fucking devastate your hand. The one in Fallout 4 has the hand in its own separate cage from the pneumatic part, which would actually make it less likely to shatter your hand when using compared to the older version.

The super sledge also looks far better, with the Fallout 1-NV version looking like a Loony tunes mallet, while the Fallout 4 one looks like an actually sledge hammer.

The ripper also looks more original, whereas the older one was a cheap looking ripoff of the Warhammer 40K chainsword
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>>186781459
>>Bethesda makes bulky pseudo-futuristic design
NOTHING ABOUT A WATERCOOLED LEWIS MACHINE GUN IS PSEUDO-FUTURISTIC

THAT SHIT IS FROM FUCKING 1917
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>>186782191
>mechanized hammer with pneumatic tecnhosmashers
>more looney toons than a normal sledgehammer but with a fucking rocket strapped to the back
the classic ones maybe but the 3/NV one was great, 4 one is just dumb
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>>186782484
The Fo3 and NV ones still looked like a retarded Loony tunes mallet, and I could never take it seriously.
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>m-m-muh black isle
>m-m-muh realism
>precision energy weapons are held like miniguns
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i have been thinking, why do the skulls look so angry in bethesda games?
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>>186782191
Agreed, that other fella can shitpost and call me an Obsidiot, but it's not the case. I do like a lot of FO4's artistic decisions, particularly with the weapons.
>The super sledge also looks far better
GONNA HAVE TO DISAGREE THERE THOUGH.
They took away everything that made the super sledge, the super sledge. It was supposed to be huge as fuck because it was a weapons designed for super mutants, not just a sledgehammer with a rocket booster glued onto it.
They should have made the rocket sledge it's own thing, as like a handmade crafted weapon only, at least that how I feel anyway.
>The ripper also looks more original, whereas the older one was a cheap looking ripoff of the Warhammer 40K chainsword
..Now I kind of want a longer ripper that basically is just a chainsword.
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>>186782667
>because it was a weapons designed for super mutants
no, it was a BoS and US army weapon, depending on the game, it just so happens that muties are built like power armor so it comes naturally to them
and the rocket sledge was a perfect end tier mod for the normal sledge
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>>186782667
> It was supposed to be huge as fuck because it was a weapons designed for super mutants
The super sledge in the original Fallout games was made by the BoS, it was never meant for super mutants.
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>>186782650

>and there shined a shiny demon
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>>186782650
It's amazing how you made the face look so flat there.

Those skin textures are also fucking awful.
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>>186782191
The only real problem I have with weapon design in Fallout 4 is that assault rifle clearly being a machine gun, and even then, its not that i dislike the design itself, it just should have been called a machine gun.

That and the combat shotgun being basically the combat rifle also.

Beyond that, they even manged to stick to the overall theme of the 10mm being a bulky as fuck gun, while still trimming it down a bit from the comedically oversized shit seen in Fallout 3 and NV. So that is a plus.
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>>186783089
not to mention ALL the animations went from violent seizures to normal smooth reloads
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So how buggy is it?
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>>186783952
It's fine.
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>>186783952
How far apart are those eyes?
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>>186783998
>An Unoctium mod not being riddled with bugs day one
Skeptical I remain.
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>>186784173
Only one way to find out, friend.
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>>186783089
But it's still comedically oversized. At least in FO3 and NV it was a brick. This new shit is just a fucking mess of shapes.

So glad I got that Delta Elite replacer.
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>>186783089
I even like most of the armor redesigns also
>No more dumb strainer tits for raiders
>Metal armor looks far less edge lord since they took off the giant spikes
>Combat armor is not actually modular armor like it was stated to be back in the earlier Fallout games, and the MK2 version no longer looks like one of those gowns they make you wear in a hospital when you get an x-ray like it did in New Vegas
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>>186784249
This picture doesn't even do it justice really. Go in 3rd person and look at how fucking huge it is. Shit is insane.
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>>186784329
>Combat armor is not actually
now actually*
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>>186784249
>the muzzle brake on the end isn't even the same size as the long ported barrel
literally why did they do that?
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I wish fallout had an ENB automatic remover like skyrim does.

It makes things so easy
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>>186784417
It's more of a
>the long ported barrel isn't the same size
type of problem.
>>186784249
>not replacing 10mm with P99
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>>186784329
>>No more dumb strainer tits for raiders
I miss this. There aren't any sexy outfits in vanilla.
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>>186784329
>he didn't like strainer tits
kill urself my man
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>>186784136
just imagine how much inbreeding the enclave had to go through
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>>186784249
Thanks for pointing the Delta Elite replacer, anon, I might use it. What I wonder is if any of these replacers (there are quite a few) will work fine with Horizon? I know it's a replacer so I assume it is fine (just replace texture and mesh, everything else remains the same), but want to see if anyone think otherwise?
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>>186784560
>zero cleavage in the entire game
>instead of nightwear we get shitty bathrobe
I fucking hate sterilized games. Those 10x10 pixels prostitute sprites in Reno were sexier than the Magnolia bitch in her shitty dress.
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Anyone can vouch for Grenade Expansion Pack 2?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16404/?

Have an explosives character but other than Niero's Fireworks cannon and lobbing Cryo grenades it's kinda stale.
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>>186775412
How did you get those muscles?
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>>186785581
SS+Gomad
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Hey guys,

As the summer gaming drought is coming to an end (hopefully), I'm hoping to finish my NV run and finally able to jump into the expansions...Any opinion or suggestions as to which one I should take first and last? I was hoping to endure the worst first and experience the best last (or if you think otherwise, please say so).
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>>186785628
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>>186785628
>SS+Gomad
Rip please go, he didn't ask how to become stronger blob mode
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>>186785581
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12406/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24741/?
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>Still no good playable robot mod with full Automatron integration
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>>186786557
Fuck, I didn't know I wanted this.
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>>186786789
Imagine it, anon. Starting with random parts and then going out, searching for scrap to craft new pieces for yourself, to fix your broken body when it takes damage. Having to hunt for Fusion Cores or you shut down permanently.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26120/?

any opinions of this?

replacing the vanilla assault rifle with a m4/m16 mod
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How do you guys keep your caps supply up while wandering the wastes? I'm usually spending everything I have on flamer fuel when I get back to town. I need some way to grow my wealth. I guess I can do these Nuka World radiant quests forever, I don't mind collaring gunners for a living.
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>>186787892
Literally just put points in Scrounger and sell Fusion Cores. Nearly every dungeon has +4 cores which at maximum is 1000 caps.
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Should I reinstall Fallout NV or Skyrim if I want to actually beat the game after modding the hell out of everything?
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what is the ncr veteran ranger armor of FO4? I don't mean the most iconic armor of fo4 but the undisputed "cool" armor of fo4
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>>186787892
if you didn't mod anything too hard, water purifiers are cap factories, just take them out of the workshop and into a central repository to keep things below the hard cap
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>>186787986

That sounds like a pretty good idea but my character has 1 luck.

I could maybe put a point in luck and go find the bobblehead, I don't remember exactly how much scrounger needs. Might just be 2.
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>>186788078

NV, Skyrim's main quest is pretty meh.
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>>186788082
T-60
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>>186787892
If you have scrounger, or just ammo you loot from dead enemies, sell what you don't use. Also grab a uncap surplus mod for your settlements so it doesn't top out at a stupidly low number for scrap and stuff like purified water.
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>>186788082
the mascot armor is beth's donut steel oc totally better than t-51 t-60 armor
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>download FROST because I need something to do
>no ammo ever
>enemies waste all their ammo trying to hit you
>have been using the same knife to stab people for the last three hours
>all these guns in my base that I'll never use because no one has bullets
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>>186788865
Welcome to Frost
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>>186788082
NCR Veteran Ranger Armor
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>>186787391
That actually sounds pretty fun.
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>>186788865
wait enemies run out of ammo? sounds better than dust already
>makeshift smg or makeshift minigun
>firerate on par with the laser detonator from LR
>you use them and you're out of ammo in a second, if they don't break immediately
>enemies use them and they can fire forever puking more bullets downrange than are in the entire rest of the mojave combined
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>>186788082
T60, even though it's literally just a good version of T45.
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>>186786301
Nice, I was looking for a good bushy texture for that skimpy Piper outfit mod.
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>>186789402
Yep, enemies have ammo in their inventory and they use it up with each shot. Meaning unless you're a stealth god you're never gonna have bullets.

Which sucks because raiders spawn in packs of 3-4 and they have guns and you have a knife.
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>>186784329
>he doubts the functionality of strainer armor

>>186785647
I think the general consensus is you should do the NV DLCs in release order. Honest Hearts you could probably do out of order as it doesn't link much with the other DLCs.

>>186788082
>>186789017
>tfw you're the one NVfag in the world that hates NCR Ranger Armor and especially it's shitty anime dystopian helmet
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>>186789971
should really add a small pack of ammo with a drop on death flag so you have something
then again the dust/frost guy is some sort of masochist who hasn't even beaten his own mods withough tgm so who knows
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>>186788865
You forgot the best part. Deer are the most dangerous creature in the commonwealth.
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>>186787864
I am very close to installing it, but just waiting for a few more updates to make sure it's totally compatible with everything. The service rifle mod it replaces with is pretty awesome and also have uniques placed in the world.
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>>186790014
>shitty anime dystopian helmet
I sometimes wish people would think before they type.
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>>186784560
>tfw no leather fuckboy twink outfit
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>>186790014
>integrated gas mask, standard bowl helmet, and night vision goggles
>in the world with power armor helmets that do roughly the same thing
>anime
what are you on about
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>>186785053
>they didn't even have the balls to call slaves slaves
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>>186790014
>shitty anime dystopian helmet
This has to be bait
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>>186790359
>>186790759
Show how I'm wrong or how there isn't a connection even if it is subjectively derived to the edgy Jin-Roh gear. Or just be mad that someone has opinons different than you and take it personally that someone hates your shitty iconic armor.
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>>186790014
>and especially it's shitty anime dystopian helmet
This is what happens when you watch so much anime you think the world revolves around it.
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>>186791031
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>>186791031

>prove to me it is not anime

he's beyond help, I guess it's anime if you say it is man
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Should my Gamma Repeater be setting people on fire?
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>>186791031
What's wrong with Jin Roh?
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>>186791031
Honestly man it's based off military stuff minus the hoses
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>>186791387
Those are oxygen masks. The NCR Ranger helmet has a rebreather.
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>ywn flying around space with nuka-girl
>Fucking her in the ass in front of aliens
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>>186791387
>it's based off modern military stuff
>abloobloo shitty Bethesda makes a lewis gun that doesn't follow 50s futuristic art style!
>b-but it's so cool how based Obsidian added modern stuff, have my babies sjwyer!
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>>186791561
Understandable but it still illustrates there are real world things that look like this and it's not just
>Muh anime
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>>186788440
Sounds about right. I am absolutely sick of Skyrim's washed up environment too. Meanwhile the only reasons why I quit New Vegas is due to mod conflicts I never care to fix after 60 hours of playtime.
Time for a fresh install and erocute.
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>>186791686
Where have I ever said any of that? I was just pointing out how retarded that comment about it being anime was
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>>186791686
my god are you still asshurt?
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>>186791686
>>>it's based off modern military stuff
Rebreathers are like 2 centuries old. The design used in Jin-Roh and NV are from WW2 IIRC.
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>>186792073
>inb4 "h-ha see it's just like a lewis gun because old, please start an obsidian v bethesda flamewar to amuse me"
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>>186784329
>raiderarmors that literally blind the user because it's covered with so many strap and buttresses it obstructs the sight
>metal armors with so many spikes pointing at every direction that the users would need a blood transfusion after every stroll outside
>good
Every fallout game has shitty armors in their own way tbfh
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>>186792073
>The design used in Jin-Roh and NV are from WW2 IIRC.
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>>186792073
Huh well looks like this stuff hasn't advanced a whole lot
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>>186791624
>mfw I turned Starlight into slavegirls zoo and amusement park
>mfw one of the rides is Ride the Nuka-Girl
I've built like 4 thematic fucking rides including She-Grognak so far. Now I need to figure out how to mod in random NPC visitors and make them enjoy my park. I am also working on a loli ride.
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>>186791686
>abloobloo shitty Bethesda makes a lewis gun that doesn't follow 50s futuristic art style!

I thought the reason people don't like the Assault rifle was because they didn't like how it looks, not because of anything about fitting the artstyle
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>>186778135
they do have pre-war leveled lists for pre-war safes, but one of the lists attached to them has 3 separate entries for pipe pistols and 1 for pipe revolvers.
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>>186792502
That was always my issue with it, it just looks stupid and they balanced it's weight and such around PA
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>>186792502
people don't like it because it's not an "assault rifle" and in a world that has the G3, M16, and kalashnikov variants a water cooled machine gun is 100% obsolete for standard issue military use and should have been some sort of post war weapon, like the bastard from metro that's similarly water cooled
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On a side note, looking at the sun with special goggles, it looks like Pac-Man right now.

>>186791043
Except I don't watch anime and that's why I'm annoyed by it. Same edgy bullshit aesthetic that teenagers get tacked on to that looks like trash.
>>186791278
I never said that, I pointed out obviously similar aesthetic gear in a shitty edgy anime. My complaint is that the armor in my opinion has a shitty edgy aesthetic, just using an anime as a comparison.

>>186792058
The only people asshurt are the ones like you, mad that I don't like their precious overrated iconic armor (pro-tip, I don't post replies with non-FO related images in /fog/, and never have).
>>186792293
To be fair I did state I'm an NVfag and don't want to start a flamewar, I was just pointing out my personal dislike of the iconic armor of NV, and everyone and their dog get extremely buttblasted about it. This happened several months ago when I mentioned I disliked the armor, so I should've just kept my opinion to myself.

>>186792502
I think a lot of the hate for it is that it's a giant-ass HMG and called an "assault rifle", especially when Bugfesta had a perfectly good psuedo-FAL and psuedo-AK designs for that role.
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>>186792940
>I pointed out obviously similar aesthetic gear in a shitty edgy anime.
Shit like this makes it obvious you're trying way too hard to fit in.
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>>186792940
>I don't watch anime but I'm SURE this is anime
and hate anime
>this >>186791686 isn't trying to start shit, I just brought the assault rifle into this out of nowhere
you're a sad little faggot ain't you, you can not like the armor but your reasoning is absolutely retarded, as are you
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>>186792940
Do you notice how no one has called you out on disliking the armor? All they've called you out on is your absolutely retarded comparison
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>>186793435
This is your fault, anon. This entire abomination of a thread is on you.
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>>186783089
>shotgun and combat rifle autism
Mate you do realize that rifle to shotgun conversions on modular platforms are very much a thing?
The Saiga-12 is built on the same playform as an AK74, guns aren't some sealed singular product incapable of ever being modified.
I don't use shotguns or the combat rifle but as long as the breech is large enough to eject spent shotgun shells there should literally be no problem with it.
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>>186793435
Good work anon look at what you did.
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>>186793435
welcome to /vg/, where some jerkoff is always waiting to start shit at the drop of a hat
at any rate try the synth helmet with medium CA painted white or grey (you can do that right?)
don't do heavy because it looks flat out retarded
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>>186792364
Yes, there were a lot of gas masks in WW2.
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>>186793040
Yes, because obviously the way to fit in to /fog/ is to berate an iconic armor set that the mass majority considers great, and get flamed and called a baiter for it.

>>186793204
It's not a retarded comparison when it's the same shitty dark dystopian aesthetic with the edge black paint and red glowing eyes. I never implied FNV armor was based off an anime, I just used it as an example of the aesthetics I dislike about it.

>>186793435
Sorry, I just wanted to post some Fallout psuedo-porn, didn't think my opinion would get so much drama again.
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>>186793867
>there are many things that need to be erased
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>>186792940
Oh jesus christ it's you again. Why is it that everytime you open your stupid fucking mouth you vomit all over this already shitty general?

Originally i thought you're just some harmless retard with a fetish for droopy faces and puffy lips but recently you really just shat all over the general.
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>>186792940
>perfectly good psuedo-FAL
It's a CETME reeee

On that note,

>The R Series of combat assault rifles was used reliably following the discontinuation of the M series in the early 21st century.

>R and M series
>"M" in US military equipment nomenclature means model
>as in, the M1 rifle is the first model of rifle since this system was put in place, the M4 carbine was the fourth carbine, the M4 medium tank was the fourth medium tank, M18 mine is the 18th mine etc
>"M series"
>"R series"
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Building settlements in F4 is too comfy. They really should fire the writers though, but the settlements alone make it a better game than 1/2/NV could ever hope to be.
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>>186794460
That ""system"" is one of many reasons 4 pales in comparison to New Vegas.
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>>186794276
>CETME
It's obviously a G3.
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>>186793996
But it is a retarded comparison because both are based off real world equipment and designs. By just throwing out anime and then Jin-Roh and nicely covering your ass with
>Show how I'm wrong or how there isn't a connection even if it is subjectively derived to the edgy Jin-Roh gear
You don't have to like the armor, different strokes and all, but when your original statement is about edgy anime that is exactly what your Implying numb nuts.
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>>186794627
How so? NV may have had more towns but only Freeside and the Strip were notably sized, the rest I could literally build as settlements in 4 if given the pieces
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>>186794747
>What you're
I should proof read sometimes
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>>186794460
There is a much better, versatile and reliable system to build houses and villages in Fallout games for years though anon.
It's called the GECK.
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>>186794914
You're so witty anon.
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>>186794801
So what are you doing in your settlement once you finished building it?
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>>186794276
r for "rifle" I suppose, maybe they wanted to differentiate between all their M shit
I mean still not a series, but these are the guys who think pipe guns are "gun like things made by people who know nothing about guns yet still work (and are 99% rust)" and call revolvers semi auto, I doubt they'd know what anything military means
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>>186794914
Yeah but can I close the geck and immediately start playing the game with my changes? Ease of use mate, like automatic vs manual.
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>>186795028
What are you doing in NV towns after you finish the two or three quests associated with them?
I haven't been back to the area between Primm and Searchlight since the first few hours of the game, and I only kept going back to Goodsprings for a doctor.
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>>186795223
Christ, 4 defenders are so delusional it's irritating.
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>>186795024
There's nothing witty aboiut it.Unlike the shitty settlement building you can create whole cities in the geck, properly navmesh it, and give the settlers in it proper daily routines.

If you want to build a village, go into the GECK/CK.If you suffer from braindamage and think collecting hotplates and building identical shacks for your sameface settlers is gameplay, you use the settlement system.
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>>186794215
>mug operartorfu!
You have no room to talk
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>>186795280
So I take it the answer is "nothing"
I'm literally playing NV right now, stay mad tho.
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>you'll never play NV in the F04 engine without the dialogue rotary

It hurts.
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>>186795223
Answer my question.
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>>186795280
>delusional
But he's right. Everything before Novac might as well not exist after you go through it once.
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>>186795114
>Yeah but can I close the geck and immediately start playing the game with my changes
Is that a trickquestion? Because the answer is yes.
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>>186795408
Coming back to build it, defend it, harvest my bounty of purified water and adhesive, using my vendors, my workbenches, my bed, my storage...
Your turn!
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>>186795028
>So what are you doing in your settlement once you finished building it?
Making it bigger
Going higher
Creating hordes of enemies outside and seeing the combat unfolding
Going to finish the other settlements
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>>186795309
It's more gameplay than working with the GECK.
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>>186795549
No, you have to save your changes, load the ESP, launch it, make sure it looks correct in game, if it doesn't or you messed something up alt f4, open GECK, work, repeat.
Meanwhile with settlement building I close the menu and the changes are saved and I can go back to looting.
Automatic transmission vs manual transmission. Not everybody wants or needs a manual, even tho it's better to have one
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>>186795554
>>186795635
That's literally just a MMOtier grinding cycle anon.

>Your turn!
My turn at what? What i can do in Primm if i would return? I suppose i could talk to the NPCs, use the vendors, the workbenches, my bed, my storage.
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>>186795638
The autists will never understand this, anon. They think making things outside of the game using a editing tool is gameplay.
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Any reason my game would ctd while trying to load the startup video but only some of the time?
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>>186795853
No i'm saying making things inside the game using a crippled facsimile of an editing tool isn't gameplay.
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I've seen this mask everywhere but I can't find what mod its from. Can someone link me to it?
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>>186795812
>make sure it looks correct in game
You realize the CK has a rendering Window right?

>>186795983
The Rebel.
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>>186795847
>your bed
>in primm
Mods?
>workbenches
Are located in Goodsprings, Issa mod.
>storage
Best safe storage in the area is Lone Wolf Radio, don't lie.
>literally just an mmo tier grinding cycle
So?
>I can talk to NPCs
Ah yes the essential act of going through dialogue! How many times have you had Old Nash tell you the story of Primm? A gripping narrative worth hearing multiple times a day!
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>>186795961
No, you're saying that the GECK is a valid alternative to something that is gameplay. The quality of gameplay is irrelevant, one is gameplay while the other isn't.
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>>186795847
>That's literally just a MMOtier grinding cycle anon.
And will give me hundreds of gameplay hour. In 1/2/NV I would need to replay the game taking new choices to get this much amount. One game has one approach, the other has another. You can argue that FO4 is a worst Fallout game compared to NV, of course due to this point.

Building bases but having the power to play in first person was what I was expecting in mineshit for years but never got able to
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>>186796061
thanks
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>>186795884
Do you have Modern Weapons installed?
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Is SS immortal as long as he keeps Lorenzo alive and keeps taking the serum?
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>>186796139
no
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>>186795961
There are games that live of this concept alone and they are considered videogames. You can say that this isn't a typical Fallout gameplay, but it is in the game and you play it, thus "game"+"play"
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>>186796129
>literally admitting 4 is just a shitty minecraft garbage
So 4 can be banned from /fog/ now, right? The good old days of /cfog/ can return?
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>>186796145
You could easily head canon it as that
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>>186796134
>The Rebel armor was removed from the nexus because drama

FUCK
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>>186796281
>The good old days of spamming 'howdy' so the thread doesn't 404 can return?
fixt
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>>186796281
>fallout 4 banned from fallout general
I don't think you understand.
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I know this is off topic but anyone else bother seeing the eclipse?
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>>186796372
Will there be videogames in it?
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>>186796341
it's in The Mercenary pack

>>186796225
Post your mod list.

>>186796372
I like in NYC. It just got slightly darker is all and it was already cloudy so nothing amazing.
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>>186796372
No I was too busy downloading the battlefield 1 patch.
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>>186796129
>hundreds of hours of gameplay
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>>186796471
Sucks, guess there finally is a perk to living in Nebraska

>>186796489
Why wouldn't you take a look while it does that?
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>>186796545
Well I hit 600 hours in 6 months while FNV took me about a year to get 500 in, take that how you will.
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>>186796629
I'm pretty sure i have more hours in minesweeper than you have in FO4. Take that how you will.
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>>186796629
Oh and I spent most of that playing full vanilla because I was tired of updates breaking F4se
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>>186796629
Objectively unfun hours spent on nu-gameplay. That's your fault.
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>>186796545
>Spends his time in a walking simulator = okay
>Spends his time grinding in a SRPG = okay
>Spends his time building things and searching resources for it = bad
At least post the gif next time.
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>>186794276
>M for Model
>R for Revision, or Rifle

It's not much of a leap to assume that the US military underwent a comprehensive reorganization of nomenclature. Hell, we've done it enough times before; before 1948 what we consider a fighter was called a pursuit aircraft, hence designations like P-47 and P-51. And after that, the F for Fighter series went all the way up to F-111, before we dropped it back down to zero and started again.

Power armor starts with a T. Why does it do that? They clearly don't care about the M here, why should it matter for small arms?
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>>186796545
>implying its any worse than the gameplay of NV once you meet the 500+ hour mark

The only reason why you play NV, 3, 4, or even Skyrim and other TES games past the first few play through is because you're showing of your character, screens, or what you've accomplished.
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>>186795853
>>186795638
This shit reminds me of comments from delusional consolefags who actually claimed that Skyrims Hearthfire is equally as good as any Housemod for PC.
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>>186795114
>close the geck and immediately start playing

How did you think modders playtested their creations to make sure they worked?
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>>186794276
>It's a CETME reeee
Oh shit, you're absolutely right. My bad.

>>186794747
Yeah, in hindsight I should've worded it better without invoking anime bullshit (although again it's not about the anime aspect or being derived from one, it was just a way to emphasize the aesthetic I hate about the set). The armor itself I don't really mind (as you can't fuck up a leather duster over combat armor), but the helmet I've never liked and it's placement as the "iconic" gear of NV has always rubbed me the wrong way (although to be fair wouldn't be any other substitute, the full mask keeps the Courier - if they are the character in those shots - anonymous which is good).

>>186796372
Yeah, I've mentioned it during the drama I caused in the thread; it's peaked already for me, it was a crescent shape at max coverage where I was. Crickets started chirping more, twilight level lighting.
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>>186796731
Minesweeper is unironically one of the most fun games ever created. What is the problem?

>>186796789
>That's your fault.
Obviously. Why wouldn't it be my fault for choosing what to do with my own time.
You might think that building blocks is unfunny, I think that shooting the same enemies over and over again is unfunny. Now what?
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>>186796934
I mean it does basically cover all of the bases for 90% of the house mods on nexus, no?
Say what you will but there's a reason settlement building killed lore friendly housing mods
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>>186797013
>I think that shooting the same enemies over and over again is unfunny.
So why are you playing Borderout 4? All you do is shoot, there are no real quests or dialogue like a true Fallout game.
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>>186796934
Hearthfire is arguably better from the point of view that it allows people to make the thing themselves rather than download something someone else made.
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>>186775182
Cut quest where Father put a recording device in the tank because of his urination fetish.
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>>186797104
>like a true Fallout game.
>Pop culture references
>Reddit humor
>"Dialogue" consisting of wikipedia tier exposition dumps
Patrician tastes my good man
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>>186797104
Literally I am playing because of the base building. It is the single game that has these aspects of shooting things + building things. I only go around shooting stuff to find items respawns to feed my building autism.

If I wanted quests or dialogue over this kind of gameplay I would be playing tabletop RPGs. I just want
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>>186796471
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>>186796973
Yeah it was a full here with some cloud cover, could still see it happen and didn't even need glasses or a welding mask which is nice.
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>>186797067
>>186797139
>modauthors made literal pocket dimensions, spaceships, walking houses, flying houses and talking houses in the CK
>but the dumbass limited ingame build mode with prebuild assets is fine too i guess
Consolefags everyone.
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>>186796967
By dropping hours into it, same as settlement building.
You've still failed to grasp the point, I guess autists don't understand cars, but if I have to use the geck you need to start driving an unsynchronized manual gearbox, there's no point pretending you know how to drive til you can rev-match every shift perfectly and get the idea of double clutching down
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>>186797245
Holy shit.
I don't even know where to start making fun of you. This is like when an elite hitter gets a fat BP fastball and he panics because he doesn't expect it.
Did you even read the post? Is your reading comprehension the lowest level possible? Clinically Retarded? Autistic? Drunk? Vision Impaired? Trolling? TDK? Distracted by your own small penis?
I am at a loss. It's like you read the first word of my post, made up your own idea of what the post was going to be, and then just posted what ever shit came out of your ass first. HURR. HURR. DURR.

You should stop posting. Forever. Turn off your computer, unplug it forever, and just walk away. Just walk away.

Dumbest post I've read all year. By far. I honestly believe you don't deserve to breathe anymore. You should be locked in a room, and hooked up to an oxygen machine. Except this machine hold out, giving you no oxygen until the last possible second and you wail and gasp in pain, and gives you a tiny amount, before starting the torturous process all over again. Don't worry, it won't effect your brain like it would normal people who aren't fucking retarded.

Please do us all a favor and take a knife or pen, whatever you can find with a point, and push it up into your jugular vein. You need to stick that so far into your neck that it comes out the top of your head. You are the stupidest fucking moronic retard I've ever seen post on here and the world would be a better place if you weren't in it. I wish I could go back in time and abort you by finding your mother and kicking her down the stairs, stomping on her stomach and making her drink bleach. Never, ever post here again you stupid cunt muscle.
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>>186797415
You'd have to be pretty autistic to be arguing this point on an anonymous imageboard in the first place, bud. Glass houses.
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>Male SS gets black face bug
>Install LooksCompendium HD DLC fix
>Now Curie has black face
>Install Black Face fix
>Back to Male SS having black face
fuck me lads
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Fallout 3 was almost 10 years ago dudes. You've had nearly a decade to get over the fact that Bethesda Fallout is different from Interplay Fallout, yet here you are arguing about it still.

Truly pathetic.
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>>186797482
What site did you take this copy pasta from? At least get something funny next time.
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>>186797538
>you'd have to be autistic
Where exactly do you think we are bub?
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>>186797381
Yeah but making things in the CK requires you to close the game or change the window at least.

Making things in the game > making things outside the game. Not necessarily the final product is what they want, but the fact you are making it yourself.
Okay, the CK is superior to consolecuckery but the CK isn't the game. If you just want to make something you could go and use Paint instead.
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>>186797381
>he can't even follow the argument
Put your helmet back on, can't have you bumping your head again.
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>>186786301
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24741/?
Now I'm sitting here trying to decide if I should use this in general or just for a specific follower (or female SS.) Then I have to decide which one specifically or if it should go to multiple people. This is maddening.
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>>186797415
>le using the GECK requires at least three doctorates and an adult that hold my hand meme
Maybe try using it before opening your stupid fat mouth.Or look up a guide. There's a literal 12 year old boy on jewtube who made tutorials about the GECK and blender for people like you.
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>>186793867
If only there was more stuff like this.
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>>186797789
>driving a manual transmission requires 3 doctorates and an adult holding my hand meme
Lmao it's three pedals, is that too many for you?
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>>186797789
>suggesting guides and tutorials
You just shot your argument down there.
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Are Fallout4 fags merely pretending to be retarded or has the skinnerbox gameplay attracted actual retards to this general?
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>>186797983
Well, I spend a shit ton of time complaining my fences don't blend with the uneven ground until I learned that you need to add shack foundations from a tutorial...

>>186797789
>why do you want to build things in Terraria? Just use an editor!
>why do you want to gring your character? Just use a savegame editor!
The point isn't having the settlement. The point is the fun is in building the settlement. I would not complain about building it at CK if calculates the amount of resources you need to build it and detracts from your reserves. Why don't the CK does it?
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>>186798219
Judging by the quality of these threads, it seems that Fallout in general attracts retards, which makes sense as the entire setting has never made sense
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>>186797549
pls help
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>>186798219
Anon, to be perfectly honest I was so thirsty for a decent 1st person sandbox game, that Fallout 4 actually doesn't look terrible to me, despite hating everything about it.
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>>186797549
>>186798365
>HD DLC
You are beyond help anon.
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>>186798460
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>>186798365
Uninstall the HD pack because it's literally just sharpened + contrast filtered and shat out as """HD""".
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lol why the fuck are you cucks complaining about shitty games? Just make a game engine and develop your own game.
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>>186798219
Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.
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>>186798520
That's really the main issue you fell for the HD dlc meme, it's shit and is unoptimized as fuck. Get any decent retexture pack off the Nexus and it'll do better.
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>>186798696
I don't have to be a chef to tell you your wife can't cook.
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>>186798452
There are many 1st person games that can play as sandboxes.

I just wanted to game that allowed me to:
1. Shoot/fight against things in first person gameplay
2. Find resources to build stuff
3. Build stuff

Minecraft + custom npcs mods + monster spawing mods are what I love the most, but it really, really hate the blocky npc graphics so I cannot be satisfied with the settlements I build.
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>>186798702
Even though I understand the sentiment you are expressing, the endless parroting/paraphrasing of this quote makes me label the person spouting it as a pseudointellectual on the spot.
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>>186797549
I forget the exact details, but isn't the HD DLC 50 GB, with 20 GB being vanilla textures just repackaged in with no changes? Like others said, just download a better retexture pack or set of packs if you want the game to look better.
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does this general have a discord?
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>>186799076
Why would you even want that?
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>>186799076
If it does, it should be shut down immediately.
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>>186799076
Thankfully no. They're pure cancer.
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>>186798862
>I forget the exact details, but isn't the HD DLC 50 GB, with 20 GB being vanilla textures just repackaged in with no changes?

The HD ((((DLC))) has 36623 textures overall, with 22414 being literal identical ,pixel by pixel, to the vanilla textures.
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>>186798821
Sure, but it's completely applicable.
Also it only takes fives seconds to copy & paste, I'd rather be labelled as simply being lazy.
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>>186799076
And so it begins, the cancer is becoming terminal, I would say it's been nice knowing you all, but then I'd be lying
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>>186798769
>spending your time complaining about shitty things
you're a waste of space
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>>186798219
Gotta have a low IQ to like Fallout to begin with. Nothing in the lore or games make any actual sense.
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>>186798862
>>186798760
>>186798653
It wasn't installed,atleast i can't the .esm or DLCHigh files in data
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>>186799443
The funniest thing about your attempted bait is that even if you get no (You)s, you just know that at least one person here is sitting at their keyboard absolutely fuming.
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>>186799443
Gotta have a low IQ to like anything basically. Video games are for children after all.
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>>186799631
>The funniest thing about your attempted bait is that even if you get no (You)s
You just gave him a (you), dumbass.
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>>186799581
Texture replacers don't need a plugin to work.
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>nostalgia hits me when seeing NV thread on /v/
>install NV, spend half a day sorting mods out and installing them
>decide to do the favorite hunting shotgun/ranger sequoia combo I always do
>bored with the quests i've done many times already by the time I make it to the strip
>appalled again by how fucking shitty actual New Vegas strip and Freeside are
>just fugly, vast empty lifeless
>the gunplay is just horrible
>animations even worse
>decide to uninstsall befor I even get a hunting shotgun or hitting level 15

I want to enjoy it so bad but I just can't. The setting is so good, but the story is so meh and the gameplay/graphics/animations are fucking horrible. I'm not even sure what I used to love about it anymore. I still do this once or twice a year.

Big finale:
>install Fallout 4 just for the gunplay telling myself at least it's still fallout
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>>186799812
4 isn't Fallout. It's a reskinned Borderlands.
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>>186799747
I was talking about his posts in general. Past and future bait posts, do please try to apply some thought anon.
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>>186799760
The HD DLC is an .esm, as far as I know? It's a full additional 50GB, it's not a texture replacer (that'd require opening up the .ba2 and replacing each texture).
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>>186799910
No it isn't. If it was, I would actually like it.
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>>186800047
>he likes borderlands
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>>186775182
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>>186799812
>spends half a day modding
>doesn't install texture replacers, animation replacers, ENBs and Strip+Freeside overhauls
ishygddt
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>>186799760
If it's packed into an archive it does.
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>>186800173
>He mods his game to break the setting.
Kill yourself
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>>186800124
>he doesn't like borderlands
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>>186800253
You can tell the game to load archives in the .ini, so not necessarily.
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>>186800269
>complains about animations, textures and gunplay
>doesn't download the mods that fix them
Remove yourself from this thread at the earliest convinience.
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>>186800347
That was the best you could come back with? This site has gone to shit.
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>>186800360
Oh yeah, completely forgot about that.
Guess I can take that one out of my load order then.
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>>186800269
>Kill yourself
I will if I find a good mod to it.

Consolepeasants like you will never understand the wonders of modding boy.
Game developers are actually stupid and can't solve simple things in the game to make them better.
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I don't even know who's baiting who anymore.
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>>186800456
>that image
People like you should be shot. How dare you replace the artist's original vision of how a character should look. Somebody worked hard on those potatoes and you just think you can replace them all willy nilly and ruin the setting and aesthetic of the game?
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>>186800173
But it's still fugly. I've never seen a new vegas look good ever.

And ugly is one thing but goddamnit the gunplay just ruins it. I want to love this game like I used to but fuck's sake it didn't age well.

The fact that FO4 is so shitty is just salt on the wound.
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>>186800762
Everyone is just pretending to be retarded at this point. At least I won't have to do abs today
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>>186800456
>talk about the breaking the setting
>spewing shit about gameplay
are you too stupid to know the difference?
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>>186799076
there hasn't been a single discord that wasn't a circlejerk of autists that brought the respective thread down, imagine a whole troupe of people creating a clique of "popular" name/tripfags then bringing their shit into the thread and acting like it's their own personal forum for drama
take a look at /dbg/ some time, it's a fucking mess
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>>186800904
Idk. Real Recoil did the trick for me in NV. Automatic weapons in NV are kind of shitty but i greatly enjoy semi auto and bolt action rifles.
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>>186775626
The absolute madman.
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So, is FO4 still shit to mod or the game was already fixed by mods?
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>>186800269
>he doesn't mod his game to enhance the setting
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>>186796145
Oh sure, you're immortal just like the Cabbots were while they were taking the serum.

That is, until Lorenzo decides to enacts his plans and you die in the ensuing cataclysm from the obviously angry and crazy actual comic book supervillain.
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What is /fog/'s favorite classic game musical tracks? My top 5:
Khans of New California
Vault City
Moribund World
Trader's Life
Arroyo
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>>186801376
Just mod Sierra Petrovita to be a follower and put the nuka girl outfit on her. BAM!
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>>186801537
The best you can hope for so far is stuff like FROST that gets rid of the shit story and the shitty settlement autism entirely.
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>>186801537
Horizon is fixing the game (I think) to a great degree. Add that with the Start Me Up mod to remove that 'feel for your missing son' element, and a few other replacers, weather overhauls, and textures, the game becomes as good as STALKER
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>>186774837

Truth is, the game was rigged from the start.
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>>186801668
>not cutting lorenzos limbs off and hooking him up to a blood draining torturedevice that keeps him in a state where he wishes he could finally embrace death

Amateur.
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>>186801909
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>>186801975
Reddit tier.
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>>186801909
What in the goddamn
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>>186801938
this was the plot of at least a dozen hentai doujin right?
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>>186802091
Reddit tier bait
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>>186802094
>that hair
>tops worthy
what the fuck anon, these are greasers, not fucking vapelords.
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>>186802094
DAT LOOK GOOD!
Joking aside, that looks fresh..How did you get that Benny face? What mod?
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>>186801909
>benny acts against the player character of a videogame
>makes a comment about how the game is rigged from the start
>isn't aware of the irony at the time, that the person he said that to is the player character so it's literally rigged against him as a result
Deepest lore

>>186801938
He was a victim at one point, let's not forget that. It's assumed the artifact subtly made him go kinda crazy over time, and on top of that he was stuck in a hole for 100 years by his own family who used him like an orange juice dispenser.

Killing him was another thing that made me sad, due to the circumstance.

But then he blew open a sealed bulkhead with his mind
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>>186802178
This one is better, at least has humor in it. The other one was 2edgy4u.
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>>186802307
Dragbody.
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>>186802451
What is Bruce Campbell doing there?
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>>186802094
we fakefactory now?
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>>186802451
I have dragbody's armor collection, NCR overhaul, BOS reforged, and boomer boom. Am I missing any that changes Benny and King's faces too? Any other factions that dragbody did?

His work is awesome, don't care what everyone said about potato face being original vision.

I wish this can also be done with FO4...
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>>186802601
Most modders find 4 too shit to even worth bothering with.
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>>186802094
A polished turd is still a turd
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>>186802813
wow that's deep
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>>186802813
A compressed turd is diamond
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>>186802997
by that logic FO4 is diamond tier as it's a compressed boston
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>>186802601
>His work is awesome
He just riggs shit ripped from other games to NV skeletons.
Its nothing impressive and it hides it behind his circle jerk sekret klub forum.
He's not a modder to idolize.
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>>186801701
As in 1 and 2?:
Many Contrasts
Followers Credo
Dream Town
All Clear Signal
My Chrysalis Highwayman
Metallic Monks
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>>186802813
what did he mean by this
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>>186802813
Are you the anti-waifu poster? I have to give it to you, you certainly know how to rake in the (You)'s.
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>>186802675
I understand. About the only saving grace (imo) for FO4 is the updated gunplay and adding new features (weapon/armor upgrades, settlement) albeit half-assing them. Pretty much everything else is a total fail.

So: Are there other package from dragbody that changes the King and Benny faces?

>>186803051
Well, he certainly did things that nobody else thought of doing (or that I can do), thus my kudos. He had some mods in the nexus, as well no?

> some sekret klub forum
Understood that the forum is shitty, but maybe there's a copyright issue behind his mods? Eitehr way you can just register to download his stuff, or get from pirated mods...Why so salty?
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>>186803321
he's not wrong tho, that benny is hideous, even if it's only the hair.
he looks like cait's little brother, not the Mob-boss of the Tops who killed the last chieftain in single combat with a knife.
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>>186803430
>that benny is hideous
I actually agree, i have that picture on backup because i know how much it triggers fog.
Have another one.
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>>186803662
huh, they going for an ash williams thing? cassandra is a girl name after all
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>>186803662
I haven't played NV long enough to know who the fuck that is tbf senpai. I'm in HH and this is my first NV playthrough where I'm not a teenager.
A more general question -
I remember someone mentioning the NCR only had a single vertibird in NV, what's up with this lady then? Is she from a mod?
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>>186803662
REEEE how dare you defile this qt!
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>>186803835
>Is she from a mod
No.
She didn't fly for the NCR
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>>186803835
>He doesn't know about the faction that has historically deployed the most vertibirds in the wasteland
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>>186804079
Oh, I see.
>>186804156
It actually occurred to me right after posting, kek.
I originally took her "I didn't quite fly for the NCR" comment as "a mercenary vertibird group", not because that made sense, but because it sounded cool.
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>Daisy crashed the Verrtibird from FO2 and walked all the way to Novac
>Lily took a rotorblade from Daisies Vertibird and made the vertibird sword with it

D E E P E S T L O R E
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>Follow mod gand enb guides
>game looks great but I personally don't like it
>follow my own retardation
>game looks like shit but I love it
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>>186804432
>be most powerful post war faction with great reserves of pre war information
>still let women operate vehicles
absolutely disgusting
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>>186803376
>He had some mods in the nexus, as well no?
Yeah, but more importantly there are literally dozens of mods made by other people based off asssets released by him.
Like, almost ALL of the backpacks, dufflebags and messenger bags the FO4fags are wearing?
Based off of assets made by Dragbody.He releases stuff like that regularly free for use.

That's the kind of stuff everyone uses and couldn't play without but rarely noticed and rarely credited to him.
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>>186804687
Yes i agree, that does look like shit.
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>>186804687
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>>186804985
>salt upon wounds
>looks like a generic pict tribesman from Ryse : Son of Rome or a reachman from Skyrim
what the fuck?
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>>186804985
Okay, so in which case, why shouldn't he be seen as a good modder?

Also, that picture. My fiends do not look like that. Is that also dragbody's? If so, mind saucing me up? Or name of mod?
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>>186804687
>le skympy slooty clothing replacers
>baloontits so big it stretches the armor and clips into the gun
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>>186803835
Daisy Whitman was an Enclave pilot. Read between the lines; when you ask her if she flew with the NCR she gives you a sarcastic misdirection response.

The post you're responding to was a Dragbody edit of Colonel Moore, one of the high-ranking NCR officers in the region, stationed at Hoover Dam. She's known to be a bit of a hard-ass and results-oriented (she commanded Operation Sunburst, which was the NCR takeover of Helios One from the Brotherhood of Steel, which was successful but a bit of a bloodbath).

>>186802451
That's the only cool one of the shitty overstylized Dragbody character overhauls, and only because of the Bubba Ho-Tep reference.
>>186804432
Considering there is 30+ years between the events, I doubt Daisy just walked to Novac afterward; she probably reported back to whatever unit she needed to and served until the Enclave defeate in the west coast, then wound up in Novac like many former Enclave personnel drifted away and blended into frontier towns after the war.
>>186804712
Heinlein's Starship Troopers makes the case that women make ideal pilots as they can be trained for it and it doesn't require them to be huge or muscular to do their job. Everyone has their tasks in a futuristic militant-fascist organization.
>>186804985
Yeah, also practically every necklace for NV is based off his original neckseam concealer mesh.
>edge_upon_edge.jpg
>>186805383
It's not a fiend, it's a mod of Salt-Upon-Wounds, the war chief of the White Legs tribe, a group from the Salt Lake region that destroys New Canaan on behalf of the Legion and tries to hunt down the rest of the Canaanites in Zion.
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>>186805383
That's Salt Upon Wounds, the leader of the White Legs from the Honest Hearts DLC, not a fiend.
Or well, it's supposed to be, I guess.
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>>186804985
>>186805341
HOW DARE YOU DESTROY THE ARTISTS VISION OF GENERIC GUY WITH BUCKET ON HIS HEAD REEEEE
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>>186805695
I'm more mad that the trademark powerfist got replaced with some weak ass looking bone blade desu. The armor looks stupid as well because it's pretty obviously a 1:1 rip of the Forsworn.
If I wanted Skyrim : Post Apocalypse I'd play FO4.
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>>186805679
>>186805682
Ah okay. You totally got me as I haven't even finished/started any of the DLC yet...I just thought it looked like a fiend..
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>>186805492
>there are people who don't fix and fit every outfit/body by hand to make sure it doesn't clip with anything
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>>186805679
>hail to the king
>a bubba ho-tep reference
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>>186805679
>read between the lines
Read the previous post.
>>186804315
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>>186805889
>I'm more mad that the trademark powerfist got replaced with some weak ass looking bone blade desu
Same.
>>186805992
Him being an elderly Elvis impersonator is, though.
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>>186805889
>The armor looks stupid as well because it's pretty obviously a 1:1 rip of the Forsworn.

No it's reference to blackfoot breastplates and regalia you dumb nigger.
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>>186806184
Nigga. He IS elvis in bubba hotep
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>>186806184
at this point we might as well give Graham Col. Autumn's coat and a 10mm pistol
maybe even a sith lord style hood too, where you can only see his eyes, just in case someone thought we ran out of inspiration to rip out of other things.
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>>186806309
Holy shit that nose
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So, in which pack (or where) can I find dragbody's faces for the salt upon wounds, king, and benny? Is it in the repository somewhere?
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>>186806309
>It's a reference to something it looks nothing like
Nice, I guess he went ahead and changed it to look nothing like it and more like a Forsworn warrior was artistic vision?

>>186806617
Based on the comments on it, probably GUN.
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>>186805679
>that image
>covering crotch in gecko's presence
???
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>>186806692
I mean, it's quite obvious it will be in GUN, but which one?
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>>186806820
Do you really want a gecko to bite your cunny?
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Are there any mods for synth eyes that aren't just colored rings on a solid black backround?
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>>186806934
>there are multiple GUNs
I dunno m9, I don't use that gobshite. Everything I've downloaded from GUN feels really low effort, ie drop an armor and it has the world model of a pre-war suit, and it's not like that's a very challenging prospect or anything unless your only marketable modding skill is ripping shit from other games and rigging them to (somewhat) work with Fallout.
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>>186807027
>meme eyes
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>>186806319
Yeah and Jack was John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 35th President of the United States. I know I was being ambiguous about it as that was a part of their characters, living isolated in a world that doesn't believe they are who they claim to be.
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>>186807143
> multiple GUNs
You mean different access to different level members? If so, then okay. Damnit.

I was hoping it's part of the stuff he made public for regular member (such as me) and not locked behind some VIP memembers.

> mod from GUN feels low effort
Which is why I only downlaoded the overhauls that have faces. Maybe ENB too (since the one for NV is pretty good there, not available anywhere else).
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What mod do you want the most that hasn't been made yet?
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TELL ME THE MOST INTERESTING QUEST MOD IDEAS YOU HAVE OR SHE FUCKING GETS IT I SWEAR TO GOD
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>>186808001
Minutemen quests that aren't radiant settlement garbage
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>>186807915
If someone were to just fucking make it so you could recruit settlers as expendable followers I would literally, unironically suck their dick if I could. I've wanted this since the game came out.

Beyond that I'd just like a F4 version of this mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75200/?

>>186808001
You go to a new worldspace in middle America where society has reverted to fuedalism and power armor users are seen as legendary knights and behave as such. You must choose a kingdom to serve and partake in courtly plots and intrigue while fighting on the battlefield either as a conscripted levy or a glorios techno-knight.
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>>186807915
Honestly, I just want Millenia to port over his Unica 6.
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just that reminder coming at you again

reminding you of the fact Bethesda thought it was a good idea at one point to have aliens be the cause of The Great War

thank you
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>>186808259
*feudalism
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>>186807915
Preset settlements
>staged 1-4
>each prebuilt stage comes with material requirements and rewards you 1/3 of the exp you'd get from manually placing all the pieces yourself
>depending on settlement, each prebuilt phase can support a differing amount of people
>sanctuary for example is
>stage 1 - 7 people
>stage 2 - 15 people
>stage 3 20 people, improved structures and defenses
>stage 4 30 people, massively improved defences, becomes comparable to the Castle in terms of fortification

Of course, this isn't something that a modder could make, or if he did it would probably be shaky at best, it should've honestly been a feature, just to prevent players from getting bogged down in settlement building if anything else.

>>186808001
setting is important, 3, NV, or 4?
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>>186808536
Try out Sim Settlements, its kind of like that.
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>>186808536
oh also
>as settlements build up more they are added to the larger caravan trade routes
I never got why people like Cricket never showed up to Sanctuary, even after it was fully restored, and this would apply to all settlements that you built up, and you could manually order them to do so assuming you controlled Bunker Hill and could pay them enough caps to give the settlement a shot, thus adding it to their stop.
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>>186808209
Pipedream

>>186808259
There's supposedly a huge fucking shitstorm in the middle of the US IIRC, so it's possible to have something like that in the eye of the storm. Have the story be where it's a liberal shithole that destroyed all the guns, a couple generations later technology like gunpowder is considered to be alchemy and guns are wizardry. Technomagic shit. Power Armor is "enchanted."

>>186808536
New Vegas is my preference, but any that you feel like talking about would be great to hear.
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>>186808626
no anon I mean fully. Simsettlements still requires micromanagement and planning, trust me.
I mean straight up deposit mats into workshop, open workshop through bench, gives you an option to open regular workshop mode and build or select a prebuilt settlement, and boom, you miss materials but have a fully functional settlement.

>>186808795
Well, are you making it, or just absorbing ideas for later use? If you want to make one I'll try to work with you on it, if you just want an idea scrap (I too do this with character sheets) I'll try to come up with a bone to toss.
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>>186808342
looking at the unica's compensator always makes me feel weird.
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>>186808001
delve deep into a massive mining complex, fighting mysterious glowing deep earth monsters (be they variants of existing creatures or new things like tunnelers), deep underground find a US vault esque bunker occupied by enclave remnants, left behind like those japanese soldiers we kept finding on little islands decades after WW2 finished
featuring new guns from the stockpile, mining frame power armor, and a drill melee
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What do you do when you start a new game in FO4? I want to make a new character but I don't really feel like going through the standard beginning quests again. I want to get to level 30 and go to nuka world, might just console command myself higher level.
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>>186808995
Prospecting for inspiration, mostly, and getting the wheels going in the right direction. I'm working on one, but I'm starting to run out of gas.

>>186809041
Nice, sounds like you'd end up looking like a Big Daddy with an MG42 or something.
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>>186809184
>>186808995
Forgot to add, talking about stuff is always helpful anyway. If you or I don't make it, maybe someone will.
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>>186809132
I try to make my way to the east coast and make my entire beginning game attempting to clear the settlements and eventually take out the Forged. I'm generally pretty well leveled by the time I can take them on, tho not really near level 30. Maybe just pick up the BoS at cambridge and run Radiants for them?
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>>186809184
>>186809242
Alright anon, give me a bit to mull it over and I'll get back to you with some thoughts. Hold out.
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>>186809674
Thanks, bud.
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>>186808536
>his isn't something that a modder could make

It would be a pain in the ass and probably not worth ther effort considering the fanbase but it's absolutely do-able
You can enable or disable certain meshes through a quest stage.
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>>186807915
A mod that fixes Goodsprings and other settlements so NPCs don't just stand around and actually try to simulate their daily lives. Seriously why does everyone in Goodsprings go to the same stupid house then just stand around like idiots?

>>186808001
Hey no bully! But anyway I think an interesting quest would be about who the dead tribals north of Goodsprings were, maybe a quest about the last of that tribe declaring jihad on Cazadores, and over time you can goad them into blaming the Fiends and Khans, or calm them and have them peacefully join Goodsprings or settle down.

>>186809041
That wouldn't be a bad idea, sort of a dungeon crawler crawler type progression?

>>186808259
That sounds like how Zenimax will run Fallout Online, and set it in middle America with the backstory that the MWBoS fractured after the Calculator war, and you pick up in one of the rival factions.

>>186808795
>There's supposedly a huge fucking shitstorm in the middle of the US IIRC
Not exactly, and it isn't canon; massive radioactive dustbowl storms are only mentioned by Cassidy in FO2 (and it was secondhand info for him), and were alluded to in Van Buren design documents as far as I know. I personally like the idea of the Great Plains suffering periodic severe dustbowl storms that isolate settlements, but we don't know if that's canon or not (and obviously during the events of Tactics such storms were not problematic for them).
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>>186809132
Play as a pre war vet looking for my Son.
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>>186809924
considering the radstorms the glowing sea produces it's not much of a stretch that the midwest would have some
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>when the institute gives you new eyes and you can see through all their bullshit
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>>186810080
>basing lore on Fallout 4
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>>186810169
>implying radstorms aren't one of the few geuninely good things to come out of FO4
Even if it was just a polished version of things mods had included before.
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>>186810139
>meme eyes
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>>186810080
Fallout 4 isn't canon.
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Would buying POE2 encourage or discourage Obsidian from making a Fallout game?
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>>186809924
>Exploring the fate of those dead guys
That's a super interesting idea, actually. I've always been curious about them, a bit.

>Shitstorms aren't canon
Kinda blew my mind with that one. That's been a part of the FO world in my head for a long time, haha. Thanks for the correction.

>>186810169
FO4 isn't canon. That fact is canon.
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>>186810391
what the fuck are you thinking, you make no sense
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>>186810391
They've said they want to make another one, already. It's Bethesda being butthurt little faggots that tried to sabotage them and still got blown the fuck out that's the problem.
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>>186810391
I'd suggest buying copies of POE2 all day every day until you find out.
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>>186809016
yeah just seems out of place
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>>186810391
Obsidian has lost most of it's talent that was essential to making fallout anyways.

Also it's not even their call. Blame Zenimax.
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>>186807915
Something that makes Fallout 4 not feel so lifeless and barren of meaningful content. And that's not a haha heehee sarcastic dig at FO4, legitimately something feels empty about it
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>>186810391
I'm not sure I want to touch their new games after I played Tyranny. Not even waifus could save the horrible stat system.
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>>186810459
Well if POE2 flops and they run out of money either they'll just die or make a new fallout. Alternately if POE2 is a success they either wont need to make a fallout or they'll ride the success and make a new fallout.

Buy some copies of POE2?
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>>186810710
It's because nothing you do matters. It doesn't feel like you're carving your way into a world, it's just witnessing shit go down, doing fetch quests, and observing shitty writing.
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>>186810785
they've got 4m out of the 1.1m goal. Say it costs DOUBLE what they expected. That's still about 1.8m profit.
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>>186810785
the option to make another fallout is not up to them
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>>186805679
artist of that image? dunn owhy but i find it hot as fuck
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>>186810710
It's not a role playing game. It's a far cry game with super mutants.

If you come to accept that it's actually an okay game.
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Cait?

Uggo.
Shit.
A shit!
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>>186808001
Synths squad and the SS versus a ZAX in a pre-war Bunker.
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Dragbody's work is absolute shit when it comes to taste.

Same with New Vegas Redesigned 3. It's as if people are unable to stay faithful to the original characters.
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>>186810080
Oh yeah like I said I'm generally a proponent of the idea of radiation storms in the plains, personally I'd like to see more natural and climatic hazards and dangers in the Fallout universe than what's been alluded to so far. Instead of everything being about some super monsters, or some asshole faction.

>>186810139
That's a good facial expression for that post
>at last I truly see

>>186810397
Thanks for the feedback on my last of the tribals idea; I think I'll edge into that as I learn more modding, I was planning on making a custom companion first then moving on from there (basically it'd be a companion quest). Also I never said the radiation storms contradict canon, it's just it isn't exactly known so it could go either way whether or not the Great Plains region suffers hazardous widespread storms or not.

>>186810659
True, but they've also got Tim Cain back more recently; I'd rank him miles about Avellone and Sawyer personally (although I loved VTMB so I'm biased). But I'm not convinced Obsidian needs to do a Fallout project again.

>>186810969
>dunn owhy but i find it hot as fuck
Because Merc Charmer Outfits are hot as fuck on women, and the implication of Gecko Mojave Loving is impossible to ignore. Sorry I dunno the artist though, got the image from /fog/
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>>186811174
I wouldn't be judging anyone else's taste if I were you
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>>186811174
Look who's talking.
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>>186811365
>>186811530

Dragbody's problem isn't a matter of hairstyle, however. It's the fact that he changes every fucking face into something that has nothing to do with the original.

Case in point, Benny's face. Colonel Moore's is kind of how I would expect her to look. Even the hairstyle gives her more personality. But a lot of them are a miss and miss.
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>>186811758
that looks better
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>>186803662
Yeah David Bowie really is the best waifu.
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>>186811758
Stop posting.
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>>186803662
My Trap Colonel Can't be this Cute
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>>186811758
The Hairstile is only the start of a long list of your problems m8.
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>>186811826

I think this one looks nicer but I can't be sure.

It's a damn shame New Vegas' vanilla hairs look so god damn awful. Between the blocky meshes and the stupid reused assets from Fallout 3 (which thinks EVERYONE still uses 50s hair in the future) I just have no option but to go spiky hair.
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>>186812003
>I just have no option
Try this one.
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>>186775350
Buy that new GPU, Leather jacket man demands it.
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>>186811993

It appears to be my only problem. That, and that there's no mod to make my waifu move her eyes.

Elizabeth has come a long way since the start of this playthrough, where she admittedy looked bad.
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>>186811973
traps in Fallout 4 W H E N
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>>186776498
No! I told you once already, and I'll say it again, my basement bunker is good enough and I'm not renting your silly room in the ground.
Good day sir, do not come back.
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>>186808370
aliens?
Where was that from?
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>>186812759
mothership zeta
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>>186812613
Now.
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>>186812759
It's mentioned in Mothership Zeta that the Ayylmaos were trying to gain launch codes from an officer, and could be deducted that they started the great war for their own purposes.

BUT HEY
IT'S JUST A THEORY
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>>186812561
Anon,she still looks like shit.
I just don't know in how many more ways i'm supposed to tell you until you get it.
Nobody in here likes your waifu. Nobody likes you.
You're shit. Your waifu looks like shit.Stop posting.
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>>186813051
A FILM THEORY

THANKS FOR WATCHING
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>>186813070

Anon, I know you like getting these (You)s from me, but you have to understand your taste may simply be shit.

You can continue fapping to FO4's awful waifus if that makes you happy.
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>>186813262
Neato rucksack, where'd ya get it?
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>>186813358
Spice of Life
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>>186813262
Your waifu doesn't even hold a handle to the true Liz.
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>>186781776
>>186782403
Never heard of the saying "old is new again"?

Let me make some vehicle references.
The hydraulic lift cam rod was touted as "new technology" by GM in 2009.. even though the very same thing was initially created by Ford for the Edsel series cars in the late 50's.
The "HEMI", claimed new by Chrysler in the 60's was already around in the 30's in aircraft engines.
The "headlights that follow your turns" of today, we're initially created by the Tucker automobile company in the 50's.

The reasons why caseless ammo didn't take off when initially created was because of the chamber overheating and cooking off ammo early (turns out the brass/steel casings removes a lot of heat when they extract from the chamber).. if this Assault Rifle (for PA's) in FO4 used caseless ammo, then that water cooling would make sense as a way to remove the heat from the barrel & chamber.
But as it stands yes, it's a silly design unless they came standard with 500 round magazines and were full auto.
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>>186783952
I'm probably the only one who thinks that looks retarded.
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>>186813762

Which one's that?
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>>186813262
>>186813762
You're two different flavors of cancer.
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>>186813262
>>186813903
shitposter die
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>>186812927
Didn't know they ported Type3 body to FO4.

>>186813051
Except you and I and everyone knows that was cut content, and even if it wasn't it was still ambiguous; the only thing known from the holotape is that the schmuck being interrogated knew about the launch codes and that was what his mental state was perpetually worried about. For all we know the Zetas were trying to interrogate him over fursuit fetishism and didn't give two shits about the codes

And considering the point of FO universe was the Earth's resources were quickly depleted, the only thing the Zetans would get from Earth is biological stock, it's stupid to nuke the planet and get rid of the only potentially useful thing the planet provides them. You could argue, that even if the Zetans were trying to derive the codes from the schmuck, that they were doing it so they could override the system and prevent the war in the first place.

Basically the whole situation is vague and any information and incomplete without context. And it's only used mainly to cause Bethesda or FO3 shitflinging storms anyway.

>>186813429
So the Spice of Life stuff works with T6M outfits?
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>>186813767
it ejects bullet casings you ding dong
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>>186813951
>Except you and I and everyone knows that was cut content
You and your ilk keep saying this day in and day out and I keep telling you, it's indicative of Bethesda's ability to fuck around with a story until the story no longer makes any sense and the original message of the series is shit on.

> and even if it wasn't it was still ambiguous
wew lad you just NEVER give up.

Not even going to bother posting the dialogue, I'm just going to let you know you're 100% wrong.
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>>186813903
Is literally every woman in your NV angry?
Have you talked to your parents about the cause of this issue anon?
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>>186813903
The Trog raider Courier from the Pitt I think is the first one. Although Caitfag's SS was Elizabeth before yours as well. You should name yours Lucinda.
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>>186813951
Is mind control and telepathy now suddenly just your average interrogation method now? Got it.
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>>186813951
>For all we know the Zetas were trying to interrogate him over fursuit fetishism and didn't give two shits about the codes
Which is why the guy brought up his fursuit fetishism and not the nuclear codes in the cut dialogue. Oh wait he didn't.
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>>186807915
Improved writing mod.
Just change the shitty lines with better motives, better answers.
You don't even need to change the plot at all due to changing events would make it too complicated, but just give a better justification for things. It seriously seems that the game was written with teenager consolefags as a target audience.
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>>186814168
since when has Fallout's story exactly made sense?
should we start or end with the FEV?
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>>186814216
That is the one and only true liz
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>>186814793
>since when has Fallout's story exactly made sense?
That's not even the point you retard. The game doesn't have to make sense but it has to make sense within the context of it's own universe and writing you dumb fag.

Fuck you for making me respond to this stupid post. Just type "WHO CARES?!?!?!" next time.
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>>186814793
About the FEV, where does the "they don't need food or water" meme in the Bethesda version of it come from?
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Fucking nice.
Hope it looks as good when it's actually in the game
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>>186815349
Can't wait for the NCR outfits alone.
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>>186815349
Do we know who the antagonists (if there are any) of Cascadia are yet? Who are the NCR going to be fighting?
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Really wonder why people think that the Zetans would want the nuke launch codes. Humanity is almost certainly the only thing of value on the planet anyways, so nuking them to shit is counter-productive.

Plus they got their own weapons that they can use from orbit. No point in mucking around with lower technologies when you got your own that you can use with absolutely no risk of retaliation.
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>>186814914
But anon I thought it was bored ai who did for the hell of it
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>>186815349
>another NEVER EVER project
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How do I make my game as sexy as possible without breaking immersion?
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>>186816025
A) The AI says this maybe happened
B) AIs aren't all that believable in the FO universe
C) This was in a game game that also had multiple spooky ghosts, another AI named SKYNET and more pop culture references you can shake a dildo at
D) The game's main theme is humans always destroying each other in forms of war that never change
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>>186816425
Make your character into a prostitute.
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Am I the only person disappointed in the Terrifying Presence perk? It seems so tame.
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>>186813951

Spice of Life requires Type 3 textures for its outfits. It doesn't overwrite any vanilla outfits if you are asking.

My mod setup consists of:

- T6M body.
- Type 3 outfits.
- T6M outfits.
- And some Type 6 outfits.

Spice of Life's outfits use Type 3 bodies and their awful noodle arms. T6M is truly the masterrace (curvy, well defined body), though it is a shame it doesn't cover all outfits and that SoL wasn't designed with it in mind...
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>>186815305
FEV does not normally make something not need food or water, it only does in synths because the Institute modified it beyond even what it was pre-war, and perfected it.
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>An error occured
Pls kill me.
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>>186817001
Thanks for giving me a way to solve the fucking noodlearm problem. I hate it so much. Twiggyass bitches dressing like sluts, it's so annoying.
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xth for the friends that keep you sane and the will to carry on
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>>186816426
So it's pointless to bring up cut content that someone at the last second said "hey doesn't this kinda change the whole theme of war never changes?" Then became irrelevant except to those who played with dialogue on
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>>186809242
>>186809842
Am back
Idea : You run into a ghoul on the Strip, let's call him Etienne, he's well dressed, well spoken, you might even run into him in the Ultra Luxe's bar (but only after Heck Gunderson has left)
He applauds your dealing with Mortimer (and maybe the rest of the Ultra Luxe's upper establishment), and introduces himself. He plainly propositions you for a job. He wants to find a valuable pre-war gemstone (I would prefer a Sapphire but hey man it's really up to you, Lapis Lazuli is nice too) and needs you to search areas in the ruins of New Vegas (Say, two or three Jewelry Stores, the owner of one's house, then an old workhouse where it's revealed most of their gems are forgeries)
You then have the option of pursuing this gem knowing it may very well be a forgery or returning with the information to Etienne. The result is the same, you go to find it. The gemstone (which is not a forgery) is supposed to be located in a burned out convoy in the middle of Deathclaw country (specifically north of Quarry Junction and Goodsprings) If you choose to pursue the gemstone without informing Etienne he will be located inside the trailer the quest marker leads you to, and unless you can convince him you weren't planning on standing him up he will attempt to kill the player. This can be accomplished through a skill, intimidation, or a non skill related dialogue tree (choosing this option however has repercussions later
Killing him or netting the nonviolent approach gets you a note (holotape) he said he found on the shelf.
Technically it's supposed to be a voice recording et al FO4 but it will be in text form, just written out like it was spoken, and contains orders from a group of pre-war soldiers who have been offered an obscene amount of money to hit the convoy holding the gem, by a competitor of the shop owner who was transporting it. They are then to return the gem to a location near red rock canyon. This happened a few hours before the War started.(1/3)
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>>186818148
Do you even fucking understand how fucking stupid you are my man? I've told you multiple times now that the entire point is that the cut content is a perfect indication of how much Bethesda fucks around with the story.

Seriously, clean the fucking shit out of your goddamn brain you dumb cocksucking halfwit.
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>>186818238
(2/3)This turns out to be a pre-war fallout shelter, and in the entry chamber the player will find a full set of pre-war combat armor, helmet, and a near mint condition laser rifle, as well as another holotape (note) on a corpse (skeleton with armor exists right?) square in front of the entrance to the bunker proper. The log implies that the soldier was gassed by the shopowner's rival instead of being paid, and that he had killed two of his other squadmates (the third was the one you found in the trailer with or without etienne) when they had the idea to run off with the gemstone for themselves.
The door requires either C4, a satchel charge (I'm unsure if these are mods or base game) or say, 5 frag mines, two plasma mines, etc to blow it open, or is locked with a 100 skill lockpick/hacking routine.
Opening it of course reveals the pre-war stash of goodies, as well as four feral ghouls, maybe one half-sized. and a terminal located inside implies that the bunker was incorrectly constructed and the rival ended up watching his family (wife, two sons, young daughter) got radiation sickness and eventually ghoulified. He attempted to live with this but at some point they went feral and tore him to shreds. Now that you know everyone died a horrible death and the pre-war world really wasn't as great as House made it out to be you open the vault (like gemstone vault not Fallout vault-tec vault) from the terminal and retrieve the gemstone as well as a boatload of pre-war jewelry, currency, and maybe a few other assorted gemstones.
At this point if you chose the non-skill related dialogue option to talk Etienne down after going after the gemstone without informing him, he shows up, there's a short conversation and he turns hostile. This also happens if you intimidated him.
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>>186818350
(3/3) If not you now have to return to him on The Strip where he is now located in the Gormaud, upon interacting with him he offers you 2000, 2500, or 3000 caps depending on how far you can skill check him, OR tell him you plan on keeping it for yourself, at which point he will become hostile after offering the player 2,500 caps and being rejected, to simulate a bit more dynamic bartering mechanic. After killing him or unloading the gemstone he will then offer the player a series of quests to find various gemstones placed around the Mojave, as well as buy any extras you bothered to loot from the bunker for 200-1000 caps a piece, depending on the gem. If you choose to kill him at any point you will be approached by a Mysterious Character the next time you visit the Strip who will introduce herself as Jill Bates, a representative of the Gilded Rose, a merchant outfit from the NCR attempting to dominate the jewelry sector amongst the elites, who will buy the gemstones for the same price or can be denied without becoming hostile.
After returning 5 more misc gemstones (not the big one) to Jill or Etienne, they show interest in you returning to the workshop where the forgeries were taking place and returning with the schematics to forge them, though a gang of fiends has moved in since you were last through. This entire misc. chain could also be done before the bigger gemstone if you feel it's appropriate.
I hope you like this, I certainly enjoyed it. Good luck anon!
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>36% chance to hit
>click 3 times
>critical strike
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>>186817897

The other day I uninstalled all body replacers just to see what the vanilla bodies looked like once again, and it was a god damn nightmare.

The body replacers look much better, but they aren't without problems themselves. Try equipping different Type 3-based outfits that reveal your arms and see how the mesh changes in your Pip-Boy screen. That's because each clothing was used with a different mesh for the body, which triggers my inner OCD.

T6M, I think, barely has this problem.
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>>186810139
>Thos eyes
>tfw listening to Alex Jones for the first time.
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>>186818342
>He thinks he's only sperging at one person
Yet notice how it became CUT CONTENT, as in they realized it was stupid but we're too lazy to fully remove it. For someone so much smarter then everyone here you sure do come across as a retard
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>>186818238
>>186818350
>>186818469
also, any anons feel free to chime in and call me retarded or something. I dunno how to feel about it, i really wanted something that wasn't a fetch quest and I made a fetch quest. is it atleast interesting enough to fetch?
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>>186819309
Yeah, notice how this content actually made it to development and past the drawing board? Haha.. totally doesn't say anything about Bethesda at all... haha...ha

One person, two people, five? Doesn't matter, you're all retarded.
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>>186819309
Not him, but they did technically remove it, as no VA was ever recorded for it, nor is it anywhere in the game files.
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>>186817001
could you stop fucking playing new vegas and move to fallout 4 so I can follow your mod guide for 4 please?

I'm too mentally challenged to actually mod 4 without fucking it up terrible.
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>>186819436
Yeah and notice how roughly the same thing made it into an earlier game, in a final product and not lazily cut, but you'll brush it off as "just a maybe and pop culture reference". When this cut content isn't up for debate of being possible, you know because it's cut.
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>>186809843
i mean that's what I meant, it could probably be done but that requires a dedicated autism that only I could probably fulfill, atleast to the vision I think is correct, and my computer runs FO4 on such low settings a well modded NV literally is comparable in everything but overall polish graphics wise, so I really have no drive to play, and as such no desire to mod.
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>>186819246
destroy the child

corrupt them all
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>>186819684
Notice how I actually explained how that was different in the post and all you basically said was "ids bointdless!"
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i am modding the shit out of FO4 to make it a better game for the first time ever. heres how my modlist looks right now tell me what you guys think

Start Me Up
Silent Protagonist
Simple Locational Damage
CreateYourOwnDifficulty making it 3x dmg both ways
and i'm currently installed a shit ton of weapon mods so i don't have to work with the ones that look like ass in the basegame. what am i missing for a realistic experience?
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>>186819964
Notice how I pointed out that it is because one made it into a game and therefore gives a more solid argument that humans didn't actually start the war?
The difference is one actually did offer that where the other didn't and I don't see you sperging about that decision because of what I stated. Your bitching is pointless because it's based on something that was scrapped for the exact reason of breaking the theme of the games that you said. Once again doesn't change the fact that the argument of AI having started it holds more weight because it's actually in a game as a final product.

So I'll ask again why aren't you sperging about that as well?
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>>186820418
Bullets of Fate is another alternative to Simple Locational Damage I hear mentioned a lot. Not sure you'll need CYOD if you're using Locational Damage, and, speaking honestly, if you're using weapon mods, you probably don't need 3x damage against NPCs.

I know there's a handful of medical overhauls, and depending on how serious you want to make things, there's several large overhauls to look at like FROST or Arbitration.
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>>186820418
Hope you aren't wanting a plot.

Also don't forget to make the responses be written out instead of alluded to.
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>>186820628
>Notice how I pointed out that it is because one made it into a game and therefore gives a more solid argument that humans didn't actually start the war?
Did you suddenly drop whatever was contained in that empty, cavernous, thick skull of yours and forget my entire point is how this is indicative of Bethesda's writing ability?

>The difference is one actually did offer that where the other didn't and I don't see you sperging about that decision because of what I stated. Your bitching is pointless because it's based on something that was scrapped for the exact reason of breaking the theme of the games that you said. Once again doesn't change the fact that the argument of AI having started it holds more weight because it's actually in a game as a final product.
I don't like fucking repeating myself so I won't do it again. I've told you everything you need to know and if you don't understand what the fuck I'm saying there is absolutely no help for you. Understand? ZERO. Squat. Nadda. Nothing. Zip.

>So I'll ask again why aren't you sperging about that as well?
Kill yourself buddy.
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>>186820418

get the full dialogue text mod as well
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Holy fuck that mini death claw in Old World
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>>186820938
what aboot it
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>>186820938
>>186821390
It's so Reddit and hilarious
like look at it, a tiny deathclaw haha

MOBIUSSSSS!
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For anyone using any of asXas's many weapon mods, he released an all-in-one .esp for them.
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>>186820418
>Silent Protagonist
The fact that isn't an option in the game irritates me.

Bethesda didn't even think of it and just assumed everyone would love that their character has a generic "good guy" voice.

Even If you pick the "evil" choices in the game when he says the lines It breaks immersion.

What if I want to be a villain? Fuck you.
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>>186821940
yeah a bunch of the humor in OWB isnt exactly the good for anyone not in the "LMAO SCIENCE XDD" crowd
but also thats a Wild Wasteland only appearance so its not really "canon"

still a good DLC though exploring is fun and neat gear
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>>186820893
But anon I've never argued that they are good at writing, just that you're pants on head retarded for using this as your smoking gun. Also if that's the case then you can easily dismiss the aliens theory because we know little to nothing of their motives and they're just there as le wacky encounters!
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>>186821969
Neat. I don't like his level lists though. Crude Blowback spawning on raiders at level 5? Cool I love being instagibbed.
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>>186818238
>>186818350
>>186818469
Thanks for the write-up, bud. I'll look at it carefully here soon, just got kinda busy.
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>>186822145
>has a generic "good guy" voice.
This is an eve worse meme then saying Nate doesn't "sound black", so its impossible to make a black character.
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>>186822150
>But anon I've never argued that they are good at writing, just that you're pants on head retarded for using this as your smoking gun!
If you could explain why it is without having to look a completely different game (that you seem to think I even like for whatever reason) and say "WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS?"

>Also if that's the case then you can easily dismiss the aliens theory because we know little to nothing of their motives and they're just there as le wacky encounters!
Well no, because like I said again the fact this went past the drawing board and into the actual development of the DLC before someone was like "wait a minute..." says everything I need to know about them.

I cannot stress this enough: you're an idiot.
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>>186822369
meant for>>186822197
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>return to /fog/
>autism never changes

It's good to be back
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>>186822626
Don't worry, I only add to the miserableness of this terrible general to tick off people like you. I wish this could be a real Fallout General, I really do but I happen to not enjoy waifus.
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I don't know what it is, but Nisha and Dara give me such a rager.

I think I might just have something for women in power.
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>>186822734
kek
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>>186822325
Both of those memes are accurate though.
Can't play an old person either for the same reason.
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>>186822145

Does it look goofy to have the protag mouthing words or does the silent protag also remove the lip sync? I've been wanting to do a ghoul playthrough but I can't get around the generic voice.
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>>186822325
The fact that the black Nate doesn't automatically fail the main quest involving rescuing your son is already immersion breaking enough.
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>>186822901
>Both of those memes are accurate though.
What a load.

There is no such thing as "sounding black" unless you have never actually met a black person IRL, and only know what one "should" sound like from stereotype portrayals.

X6-88 is voiced by a white guy, and he sounds perfectly fine despite being black.
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>>186822369
That's just it though, you're sperging and whining how this game has a cut content thing, where the other has a final product that pushes the same idea that humans didn't actually start the war. If one game did it already why is it such a crime and travesty now? They were sticking to what the original creators had already done, offer a breaking of the theme.

Just because you can't defend your position without placing an arbitrary restriction also shows it's completely retarded, because it's pointing out how the original makers already fucking did it where Bethesda cut it. Bethesda has shit writing, this hasn't been disagreed with, but unfortunately the example you've chosen fits with something already fucking done in the series.

Also where did I say you liked it? Just because you were too stupid to put the pieces together that it was already done within the series therefore isn't the best example of Bethesda's shitty writing doesn't mean I thought you liked the other game.
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>>186823046
>There is no such thing as "sounding black" unless you have never actually met a black person IRL, and only know what one "should" sound like from stereotype portrayals.
Actually there fucking is such a thing, just as there's such a thing as looking black.

Sorry, black people for the most speak in their own version of English and I'm sorry if you think that's racist.
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>>186823046
>There is no such thing as "sounding black" unless you have never actually met a black person IRL
Oh the irony.
>X6-88 is voiced by a white guy, and he sounds perfectly fine despite being black.
Sort of, but he's a synth, and even then it's pretty obvious his VA was white.
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>>186823046

it just breaks my immersion when I'm trying to role play as mike tyson or some evil raider mother fucker and out of my mouth comes this mathlete debate squad ass voice
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>>186823412
>mathlete debate squad
He sounds nowhere near that bad
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>>186822310
I understand anon, that's half the reason it took me so long to respond.
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>>186823214
tl:dr
Already made my point and you can't understand it. It's okay, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last.
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>>186823019
black nate is a black person.

not a nigger.
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>>186823485
>I have no counter the post
Glad we got that settled champ, keep screeching about the same thing every thread and having no one agree with you time and again, it'll work out eventually.
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>>186822743
desu Dixie's voice gives me a stiffy weewee
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>>186823494
Nate is literally a white person that you can make into a black person, even though probably 2 black people play Fallout on a regular basis.

How hard would it be to make an ebonics speaking Nate VA? It would bring more black players to the table than what you have now.

>>186823592
>I have no counter the post
I've countered every post up until you couldn't stop saying the same thing over and over without actually addressing anything I'm saying.

You're just doing nothing really but posting reaction images, so I can see how someone as stupid as you would think that's somehow an argument. Basically you've made two non-arguments so far:

1. Fallout has never made sense, therefore nothing has to make sense
2. It happened to a completely different Fallout game which means I should either be: focusing my energy into the completely other thing in the completely other game or stop criticizing whatever comes after it because it's already "tainted(?)" with "inconsistencies"

>bro no1 agrees with you so you're wrong, ever1 knows that a consensus is needed for truth lol
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>>186823272
So you think X6-88 should... speak jive?
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>>186824061
He should be speaking in ebonics.
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>>186824102
#notall etc
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>>186823046

>There is no such thing as "sounding black"

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English

One way or another, the point still stands: you can't make Nate have any other voice than his voice. So if you want your black character to sound like Mr. T, you can't.
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>>186823412
... do you actually know what Mike Tyson sounds like?
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>>186824180
Yes, not all of them speaks in ebonics but most do. Ebonic speaking African Americans generally aren't rocket scientists so I can understand why they used a white VA. I'm just having trouble understand why something like this isn't racists in THE CURRENT YEAR.

If anything black Nate should have a black voice actor.
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>>186824102
But Anon, that doesn't make sense considering where he was made and programmed and all.
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>>186823464

A little harsh but he just doesn't sound intimidating to me. Especially when you confront Kellogg and autistic screech about Shaun for 5 minutes.
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>>186824310
So does it shock you when you hear a black guy speaking with a British accent or something? Dialect is regional, not racial. It's highly dependent on who you grow up around and how you're taught how to speak.
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>>186824348
How does it make sense in the FO universe? Where in the lore does it state The Institute only had white sound/voice cards?

Had black skin but no black voice modules? Think Tank had a black sounding seed bank.
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>>186824445
Black people grow up around black people really often.
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>>186824445
>So does it shock you when you hear a black guy speaking with a British accent or something?
Are you retarded? Black brits still sound different than white brits.

Are you even trying right now?

>Dialect is regional, not racial.
It's also cultural too if you didn't already realize. Or do black people have no culture?

> It's highly dependent on who you grow up around and how you're taught how to speak.
And most blacks grow up in shit neighbourhoods and go to shit schools where they have to use metal detectors to get their guns and knives.
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>>186824230

Yeah I'd rather imagine his voice while I'm playing than always hear Nate is what I'm trying to say. Rather imagine whatever voice I want, but that's what the mod is for. I guess I either want multiple voice options or none. I'm the lone wanderer not commander sheperd.
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>>186823935
>I've countered every post
Simply referring to previous posts doesn't mean you countered anything because you've done nothing to back them up when challenged.

>You're just doing nothing really but posting reaction images
Yes and? I still seem to have you all worked up and screeching don't I?

>Basically you've made two non-arguments so far:
So you missed the point this hard? The point is using the example you are is stupid because it's a bad example due to the theme break already being in the game series by the original creators. There are many other examples of shit writing but you're either too stupid or too autistic to attack anything other than this thread after thread.

No one does agree with you on the cut content, however others do agree with you on Bethesda being shitty writers. Sometimes when people overall disagree with you it means you're wrong not that you're some great intellectual defending Truth!
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https://pastebin.com/qRMyPkEF

What could I remove (or add) to my game to cut down on CPU/Memory use?
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>>186824647
>Or do black people have no culture?
You said it, not me.
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>>186824647
>>186824641
But black nate doesn't have a different backstory to white nate. Plus you're basing your idea off of our timeline and our current year. Nate grew up in the radically different fallout timeline 40-50 years from now.
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>Download Fallout 4
>Start it up
>Everything is unnaturally bright
>Crashes every single time I go to the display options
>Verifying does nothing to fix this
>Reinstalling does nothing to fix this
>Look up online
>Various work-around solutions don't solve the issue for me
>Try tons of combinations in the graphics launch menu to try to fix it
>None of them working
>Try various console commands to resolve the issue
>Most of them do nothing while the ones that fix it only do so temporarily and not even completely
>Tweak the .ini file myself
>Works as though I put in a console command but permanently
>An hour later I arrive at the second town
>I can see through walls and shit
>Game crashes consistently at a certain point
>Don't even have mods installed yet and it's already this fucked up

What in the ever loving fuck is this shit?
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>>186824687
>you've done nothing to back them up when challenged
Actually I did. Now this is the post where I stop responding because like I've stated multiple times now, I've stated my positions and you've yet to actually refute mine.

>But black nate doesn't have a different backstory to white nate
It's impossible for white Nate and black Nate to have the exact same life from birth to vault.

>Plus you're basing your idea off of our timeline and our current year.
No I'm not.

>Nate grew up in the radically different fallout timeline 40-50 years from now.
Cool.
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>>186824985
>You've yet to refute mine because I say so and refer back to my own posts!
Oh you are just precious
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>>186824860
Actually I didn't say that, learn to read.

>>186825090
Yep, your non-arguments I already said in this post>>186823935

>So you missed the point this hard? The point is using the example you are is stupid because it's a bad example due to the theme break already being in the game series by the original creators.
Literally addressed this though lol

>There are many other examples of shit writing but you're either too stupid or too autistic to attack anything other than this thread after thread.
Already addressed that too lol

Maybe you like the other guy need a reading lesson or two

also some of this>>186824985
meant for>>186824870
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>>186824657
>>186824870
>>186824985
Guys, guys...

It could have been a lot worse. They could have gotten Preston Garvey's voice actor to play Nate.
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>add sprint and make Action Points finally useful
>make Luck worthless for anyone who isn't aimless consolefag
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>>186825295
At least Preston sounds black.
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>>186825293
You did tho. You totally said it.
>>186824647
>black people have no culture
See?
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>>186825302
All Fallout 4 did was make me wish I was playing Fallout 3 or NV. Gonna refund it and just go back to the previous titles -- FO4 is complete trash.
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>>186824956
Maybe your GPU is baking.
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>>186825302
It also affects how much shit you find from perks like scrounger and fortune finder, so still pretty worthless
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>>186825293
>It's impossible for white Nate and black Nate to have the exact same life from birth to vault
Are blacks not allowed to join the military or marry (potentially) white women in pre-war Fallout or something?
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>>186825434
Pretty cute you have to completely erase two words from my post to fit the whole "that's racist!" bs. Why can't you just accept that black people and white people are different?
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>>186825554
No, blacks and whites just aren't the same. They're subjected to many cultural differences to one another.
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>>186825571
I know they are, but I'm not the one that said they have no culture and all grow up to talk like this.
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>>186825554
Unless you were Asian in pre-war fallout no one hated you
And afterwards, race didn't matter any more.
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>>186825705
>blacks and whites just aren't the same
Yeah, whites just shoot other people when they're in school, but blacks shoot people in their neighborhood instead.
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>>186825723
Yeah dude I know it's fun roleplaying as lefties and stuff but stop it.

>>186825754
What are you basing this on exactly because this is going down an interesting road. Human beings are still awful human beings in FO, but for one reason or another racism has completely vanished. Is it because of some contrived lore reason or is it just because nobody wants to have race wars and shit in the games they're playing to escape from reality?

>>186825890
And what does that have to do with anything?
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>>186825705
In our timeline, yes.

The fallout timeline has many of the highly optimistic predictions and thoughts about the future come true and runs a full 60 years beyond our timeline. Outside of Asian people being discriminated against heavily as a result of the Great War, there is little to nothing that indicates that the Pre-War United states has anything resembling our various brands of bullshit that lead to race being such a major factor in one's life.
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>>186825293
>Already addressed this
By arguing that it's somehow irrelevant that Bethesda has simply done what it's predecessor did but was smarter by cutting it? Therefore actually being slightly better because they realized it was stupid? If they both are the same then why haven't you compared them to a well written game when everyone else, by your logic, has accepted the writing has always been shit.
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>>186825962
I'm just supporting you by helping to outline the noteworthy difference.
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>>186826018
The fact you're still bringing up the old games only reinforces my original statements of you not understanding or even reading what I'm saying. Toodaloo, this isn't fun for me anymore.

>>186826093
An unnecessary difference you fucking racist white male.
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Anyone else randomly download GameCompanion? I've found that it's partially connected to Nexus, and wondering if they did some install that I didn't see, because it's certainly new and I never installed it...
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>>186826018
Going by this logic it's not even worth it to call someone dumb because the dumb person would say "yeah, what about all these dumb people from history and stuff, why are you only focusing on me being dumb? so what if I'm dumb, I'm not the only dummy it doesn't even matter."

Why talk about anything ever?
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>>186826189
What if I told you that I'm black?
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>>186826459
I'd say "An unnecessary different you fucking uncle Tom."
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>>186826189
The fact that you can only argue with arbitrary set bounds to appear right shows that your argument is retarded because it is hand waved away by most, therefore does nothing to help you other than help you appear autistic. Go back to being irrelevant Jsawyer
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>>186825962
He's basing it on a few journals in Fallout 4 talking about an asian family who was having a hard time because everyone thought they were spies.
Also, we had a interracial lesbian couple in the opening of the game.
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>>186826607
>The fact that you can only argue with arbitrary set bounds
This is how you debate particular arguments without having people like you go :

>WHAT ABOUT THIS AND THAT AND THESE?
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>>186826567
Your grammar goes to pot when you talk to black people?
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>>186826431
Oh no it is dumb don't get me wrong, it's just that it's not the greatest thing to use as a smoking gun for the reasons I've stated. I do agree that Bethesda is shitty at writing the issue is this example isn't the best one to use and harp on thread after thread because people will easily dismiss it because they like the franchise overall.
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>>186826694
>He's basing it on a few journals in Fallout 4 talking about an asian family who was having a hard time because everyone thought they were spies
A practical reason for disliking/not trusting Asians, but still the game doesn't address racism in the slightest probably because it's a video game and only wants to go as far as to say human beings really love killing each other,

*but not for any particular reason*

>>186826759
It's called a typo and conversing with a person using written or verbal language is just a means of communication, not an art. You understood what I said.

>>186826813
It's a great smoking barrell actually for the reasons I laid out already. You don't have to agree with me.
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>>186782127
>bring back the Jackhammer
YES
they couldve put in some generic trench gun too, having only 3 shotguns is fucking shit, especially when the combat shitgun is the combat rifle with a different barrel
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>>186826938
>the game doesn't address racism in the slightest
Except it does. There's a holotape in some burned out home where a little (Chinese) girl talks about how some kid gave her a copy of "Red Menace" telling her she "might learn something". Her parents were livid. She also complained about how they wouldn't let her go to a baseball game, and various other things that had these obvious racist undertones that just weren't obvious to a child.

On top of that there's the computer entry at a military checkpoint detailing how the only family the stopped/searched and then detained for being generally "uncooperative" was an Asian one.

The game addresses it, it's just apparently not as heavy handed and in-your-face as you need it to be.

People complain about the quality of Bethesda's writers and while they might be absolutely right about lots of things, it's obvious there's a few people on the writing staff that understand storytelling without losing subtlety.
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>>186826710
Oh so you can't counter support that shows you screeching over this is pointless because people will just shrug it off saying "well the originals did it" so you have to have it removed entirely? Boy you sure showed me
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>>186827341
>On top of that there's the computer entry at a military checkpoint detailing how the only family the stopped/searched and then detained for being generally "uncooperative" was an Asian one.
It totally can't be because they were uncooperative, oh no, it's because they were asian.
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>>186827341
Isn't there mention of Yao Gua being named by Chinese people from internment camps? Also isn't there one in Fallout 3
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>>186827341
>Except it does. There's a holotape in some burned out home where a little (Chinese) girl talks about how some kid gave her a copy of "Red Menace" telling her she "might learn something". Her parents were livid. She also complained about how they wouldn't let her go to a baseball game, and various other things that had these obvious racist undertones that just weren't obvious to a child.
That has nothing to do with race and most to do with what you said earlier, they thought they were Chinese spies.

There's nothing racist about that, even when the Japs were put in internment camps. Spies are and were a real threat and that was the response. There's actually more racism against ghouls.

>The game addresses it, it's just apparently not as heavy handed and in-your-face as you need it to be.
It should be more heavy handed than what they didn't do with it.
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Should my next character use rifles, pistols, or full auto weapons? My last one uses melee weapons, a flamer and the broadsider boat cannon (what a great weapon, so fun, i love breaking the bones of gatorclaws shooting them with it up close).

I plan to join the Railroad for the first time, while playing as a ghoul.
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>>186827415
And those 20 different reaction images really hit it back home to me that you think I'm such a silly person.
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>>186827832
Not silly, retarded or autistic can't decide, I thought visual aids might help kinda like a book with pictures.
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>>186827604
>That has nothing to do with race
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>>186827683
I was going to give you an answer but then I realized you're talking about Fallout 4 where it's a shallow, pointless choice.
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>>186827604
>They automatically assumed these Chinese people were spies
>Nothing to do with race
Man you are just a self opening piñata, kinda like Sarah Palin
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>>186828010
Yes! Those racist Americans and Canadians just used WW2 as an excuse to round up all those Japanese on the basis of their racism. Totally didn't have anything to do with being at fucking war the with Japanese Empire. Nope! Nothing I say! Everything is racist and if you don't agree with me you're a racist and you're wrong.

By the way don't actually try and prove the internment of the Japanese was racist, it's AWWWWBIVIOUS!

>>186828167
YES! LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS RACIST!
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>>186828353
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>>186828002
All of your posts are the equivalent of visual AIDS.

>>186828435
Don't explain why it Japanese Internment was based on racism and not geo-political decision making or anything, whatever you do.
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>>186828353
>YES! LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS RACIST!
Why would you say something so biased and racist, you fucking bigot?
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>>186800360
which ini is it? i'm a retard please spoonfeed
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>>186828805
Can you just stay out of this? I want to hear the responses from the people who actually do think I'm a racist bigot.
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>>186818238
Working on rewriting this a bit to fit the mod I'm working on. It's great inspiration, thanks a ton. The difficulty with me is that I want a lot of perk checks and shit, things about who the player is should matter.
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>>186828167
>Sarah Palin
Where the fuck did you dig up this 2007 lefty meme?
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>>186829149
Always happy to help anon, I was kind of proud of what I fleshed it out to. NV seems to lack traditional treasures you'd think would be plentiful in an area not saturated with nukes
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>>186774837
I didn't want to do this, you know.
I've fought White Legs my entire life, patrolling the North of Nevada. Driven them off, bartered their prisoners away for other tribes, hell, I've even shared provisions with their hunters.
I never wanted to kill him, you know. Daniel wouldn't understand, Joshua would. I don't know how to feel about that.
Worse, I guess.
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>>186829707
>waaaaaah violence
Maybe you should have let the White Legs holocaust them all.
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>>186829707
As I step closer, to get a better look at this, the one who holds this disparate group together, I notice something.
He's still breathing.
Fuck. Six shots from a .44 magnum and he's still fucking breathing.
Admittedly, the first glanced off that ridiculous headpiece, but five to the chest and still fucking working.
Daniel wouldn't understand. Joshua would.
I guess seven isn't his lucky number.
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Could someone link me a mirror to pirate the up to date FO4 DLC? I need it for mods but I'm not paying for that shit.
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>>186829926
It's sad really, maybe they deserve it. I still don't think so.
I have a tribe too, you know. I understand their struggle, even if I don't understand why they haven't been able to overcome it yet.
Maybe they deserve it. Maybe we do too.
The words scrawled on this helmet, "Forgive me Mama"
I understand now.
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How could Fallout 4 revolvers be improved?
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>don't live in the fallout universe
>can drink nice clean water
>can cook with normal ingredients
>don't have to constantly worry about getting raped and killed by raiders
>not constantly irradiated
>bloodbugs don't exist
Let's all take a moment to appreciate
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>>186830361
black powder.
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>>186830361
Double action frames, more mods, larger selection of revolvers in different calibers, and maybe make it so revolvers are more likely to spawn before automatic pistols.
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>>186829249
>Meme
>The woman litteraly said "that's a trick question" when asked "what do you read?"
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>>186830361
make them better than semi-auto pistols in gunslinging type builds. High damage, great crit, can empty the gun in a single blast of vats, but low ammo count and slow reload.

Other weapons should probably also have their own more notable niches desu. Maybe have some enemies that show that off as well.
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>>186828353
>>186828862
Who ever accused you of being racist? Just pointing out that the situation you said had nothing to do with race, litteraly had something to do with race.
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>"""people""" who use VATS
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>>186830987
I disable vats so I don't hit it on accident.
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>>186830987
>1 shot everything with crit stacking builds
>Caring how other people play their single player games
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>>186830425

>Let's all take a moment to appreciate

>can't rape women and get away with it

let's not

NSFW image.
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>>186830601
And what does this have to do with Japanese internment being racist?

>>186830968
What the fuck are you talking about? What does Japanese Internment have to do with racism? Explain this to me.
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>>186831404
cursed image
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>>186823674

After hearing some of her tapes, i wasted that southern slut right then and there.

Fucking raiders...
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>>186823674
I'm right there with you.

She makes me want to grow a futa dick and fuck her right when I see her.
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Yesterday I installed Unethical Deeds for shits and giggles after I found out it didn't require Sexout to work.

I know people who make sex mods are usually horny edgy teenagers, but goddamn those awful, awful lines.

>also share them, I'll try to describe your character based on your sheet
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>>186831962
Also, I fucking feel like an informant on the mob doing this DLC.
Doing shit I really don't want to because I don't want to piss of the raiders and gage.
Just give me your perk already gage, I fucking hate you.
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>>186830425
This is dumb
>They can and do drink clean water
>We're shown settlements and a city where people worry more about synths than 2bit raiders
>They've adapted to the increased amounts of radiation so unless they're bathing in radioactive waste they're fine
>Mosquitoes exist
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>>186831451
That you are a self opening piñata by giving everyone reason after reason to laugh at you
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>>186832565
What does the fictional internment of the Chinese and the real internment of the Japanese have to do with racism?

Just tell me. I'm dying to know.
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>>186831451
Once again has nothing to do with racism, however it does have something to do with race. The race part is how it's one group of people in both instances. Since you seem to have forgotten the original comment of it having nothing to do with race even though they suspected them based off race.
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>>186832671
>I think you called me racist
>Not really just said something stupid
>TELL ME WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH RACISM!
Thanks for the laugh m8
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>>186832120
Why are you always trying so hard to interject you character into everything.

You're not even trying to have a dialogue about anything in game or anything you are doing in game. You're just doing "look at me!" posts.
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>>186832789
When I said race I meant in the context of racism you retard, maybe try reading up the reply chain since you're completely lost.

>>186832927
Again, read up the reply chain. What does the internment of Japanese during WW2 have to do with racism?
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>>186833110
he likes the attention that comes from being recognized but isn't brave enough to put on a name so we can filter him.
basically he's in it for the (you)s
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>>186833193
so yeah, basically old caitfag.
>>186832671
not them but the implication was that your ethnicity determined your loyalty, you know, something we preach america is the opposite of.
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http://fallout4.blog.jp/archives/71898658.html
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To anyone using Heather, does she support the DLC, or does she not comment on anything?
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>>186833146
Still doesn't change the fact it's completely based off race you fucking autist, therefore it is related to race which is exactly what I said not what you assumed I was talking about
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>>186832521
>no! I refuse to be appreciative!

>>186833583
She does. She chats about stuff.
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>>186833193
Kinda like aliens did the great war guy
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>>186833393
>not them but the implication was that your ethnicity determined your loyalty, you know, something we preach america is the opposite of.
Japan had Japanese spies in the United States who happened to be Japanese, so as a pragmatic decision based on the geopolitical situation of being in a world war with the Empire of Japan the Americans and British Crown decided to intern the population until the war was over and Japan was secure.

By 1949 all the Japanese had their freedom back. So explain to me, how this has anything to do with racism. They weren't interned because they were Japanese and we hated the Japs, they were put into camps because Japanese spies were well, Japanese spies. Was the internment of German Americans and Canadians racist?

>>186833714
>based on race
Except they weren't interned on the basis of their race, try again. Nobody said "We gotta put these slants into camps because we FUCKIN' HATE THEM, YEAH!"

Was German internment also racism?
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>>186833773
All right, thanks. Guess I'll be taking her to FH and NW. Gotta decide which to do now. Save the best for last or do it first.
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>>186833841
>Except they weren't interned on the basis of their race, try again. Nobody said "We gotta put these slants into camps because we FUCKIN' HATE THEM, YEAH!"
>Was German internment also racism?

I am fucking howling right now.

How can someone be so damned ignorant about history? You're American, right?
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>>186833791
All you autists get mad at me more that though, even though I'm 100% correct about it being indicative of Bethesda being a shit. I actually post the most about FO lore than anyone in this entire general, spare two or three other anons.
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>>186833893
I did them in the order they came out when they came out.

This playthrough I think I'll do the same. Since Nic has been waiting a long time to go to the Nakano residence and someone might need help, wheras we don't know anything about nuka world and just heard a commercial.

>>186833393
w-what
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>>186833998
Then Skynet starting the world war is indicative of Black Isle being shit.
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>>186833110

>Why are you always trying so hard to interject you character into everything.

What do you mean?
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>>186833989
Maybe instead of howling you can actually respond to the post in a meaningful and articulated way. So let me get this straight, German internment: a-okay.
Japanese internment: racism! you're only doing it because they're Japanese.

This conversation started from me making the point that Bethesda doesn't get into actual racism their games, except for ghouls who are literally only hated because they look funny. Racists have either actual pathological non-reasons for hating other races or actual logical reasons, "hating based on the colour of someone's skin" is a huge meme and actually ignores what real racism is. Chinese in Fallout weren't targeted because of their Chinese DNA, they were targeted because the Chinese were at war with the Americans.
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>>186833841
>they weren't interned on the basis of their race
>is literally called Japanese internment
???
how would you like to get thrown into a camp with your family by obummer because you're white "just in case you're a spy lol"
that's african dictator tier.
hell we never even did that to niggers.
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>>186834134
>what about this!
Save it for when we're talking about Black Isle being shit, not Bethesda.

>>186834302
>they were LITERALLY interned because of their slant eyes Japanese eyes and strange Japanese customs

Are you comfortable saving they were imprisoned because of racism? Well you shouldn't be, because they were imprisoned for political reasons during a world war.
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Is Fusion City and its addon Outcasts and Remnants actually good or is it all just a meme?

I'm downloading both right now.
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>>186834120
>w-what
it's not such a bad thing, it's just by definition people like you tend to be itching for attention.
I am too, after all, I just do it on a different board.
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>>186834497
Cancel and delete
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>>186833998
>I post the most about lore
>Knows for a fact only two or three other anons do as well
>Everyone else is the autist
Please I already did my ab workout today
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>>186834430
>political reasons during a world war
Racism can't be politically motivated? What were these political reasons other than "Well they're japanese so they MAY be spies"?
Enlighten my Texas ass, please.
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>>186834650
Is that just personal taste or could you tell me the reasons why? If its just personal taste I'd still be willing to try but if you've got some concrete arguments for its shittiness let me know so I can bail.
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>>186834497
Deacon is the Lone Wanderer. (the Fallout 3 protagonist)
If you are okay with that, continue.
If this bothers you, it only gets worse.
Take it how you will.
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>Having a pretty decent play through
>Decent FPS even with extra stuff added
>Get into the Museum of Freedom
>Teleporting and lope around
Anyone know what could cause this?
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>>186834207
>Original Liz was an attention whore faggot
>This Liz is an attention whore faggot
At least the first one was more interesting and could compose screenshots.
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>>186834689
14 of the autistposts in this thread and that was the only one from me, bud. You're just dumb for making dumb arguments, maybe not autistic.

>>186834689
It can be, this wasn't an act motivated by racism. It was motivated by the fact your nation was attacked and at war with the Empire of Japan. Or was Pearl Harbour just the perfect excuse for the racists to lock up the slants?

Maybe your Texan ass can deduce to a logical conclusion all on your own.
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>>186834430
You guys never want to talk about Black Isle being complete fuckups though. You all handwave their shit and even fellate Obsidian for its continued fuckups and mishandled sequels and their own IP because of some stupid sense of nostalgia.
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>>186834890

I compose screenshots from time to time, but it's much harder to when you are playing with vanilla textures.
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>>186834942
>You guys never want to talk about Black Isle being complete fuckups though.
Any mention of anything that isn't FO4 or waifus doesn't get seen or noticed. You were probably too busy responding to my MZ posts.

>You all handwave their shit and even fellate Obsidian for its continued fuckups and mishandled sequels and their own IP because of some stupid sense of nostalgia.
All this projection based on nothing but paranoid presupposition.
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What mod is best for more encounters and general craziness? There's like half a dozen of them as far as I can see. My main concerns are stability and variety. Like, I don't want to just have a populated wasteland that's just a bunch of mooks spawning over and over again in the same spots. NPCs Travel is a pretty good example of what I like but more focused on friendly NPCs.
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>>186834921
>that entire first part of the post
What even are you saying you dumb fucking retard, holy shit learn to compose your thoughts before calling anybody else autistic.
Also, if you want to continue arguing, feel free to prove this wrong.
"This authority was used to declare that all people of Japanese ancestry were excluded from the West Coast, including all of California and parts of Oregon, Washington, and Arizona, except for those in government camps.[15] Approximately 5,000 Japanese Americans voluntarily relocated outside the exclusion zone before March 1942,[16] while some 5,500 community leaders arrested immediately after the Pearl Harbor attack were already in custody.[17] The majority of nearly 130,000 Japanese Americans living in the U.S. mainland were forcibly relocated from their West Coast homes during the spring of 1942"
>specifying Japanese ancestry instead of proven connections to the Empire of Japan
This is literally Red Scare tier, I can't wait til you get back to high school and actually are forced to learn this for yourself.
But maybe you'll just ignore it, I know I did.
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>>186835114
It's not projection when you're doing it right now.
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>>186775412
show us the dick
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>>186835202
Wotc
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Why did a lot of my faction karma reset right before the Battle of Hoover Dam? Independent.
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>>186835506
Oh, and for variety toss in npc overhauls like synth overhaul, super mutant redux, raider overhaul.
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>>186835316
What am I projecting? You're assuming I'm sucking the long veiny shaft and working my way to the glans penis attached to Obsidian on account of me having grievances with Bethesda.
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>>186835761
>Uses cut content as a measure for Bethesda being shit
>Obsidian actually putting Skynet as the cause of the great war is handwaved
And you're seriously implying you aren't? Remember to fondle the balls and give em a taste.
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>>186835295
>What even are you saying you dumb fucking retard, holy shit learn to compose your thoughts before calling anybody else autistic.
It was pretty clear.

>"This authority was used to declare that all people of Japanese ancestry were excluded from the West Coast, including all of California and parts of Oregon, Washington, and Arizona, except for those in government camps.[15] Approximately 5,000 Japanese Americans voluntarily relocated outside the exclusion zone before March 1942,[16] while some 5,500 community leaders arrested immediately after the Pearl Harbor attack were already in custody.[17] The majority of nearly 130,000 Japanese Americans living in the U.S. mainland were forcibly relocated from their West Coast homes during the spring of 1942"
What's there to prove wrong? I'm saying this policy wasn't based and etched in racism for racist reasons by racist people.

You've yet to prove that the internment was done solely for racist purposes.

>people of Japanese ancestry can't have historical and family ties to the island of Japan and work in her interests

>This is literally Red Scare tier
...you do realize that the communism was a real threat, right? You do realize that Joseph McCarthy was right, right?
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>>186835958
Again, we're talking about a specific game made by a specific company and the one particular grievance I have with them.

>And you're seriously implying you aren't?
Oh, I have to prove I'm not yet you don't have to prove I actually am? Okay...
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>>186835993
"Communism" was used to attack anyone that didn't kowtow to the American Empire. We've been at war with the middle east for so long from what started as a propaganda machine created by the CIA based on calling them communists so we could get at their oil after declaring it a natural resource.

Communism and the fear is nothing but toxic American idealism of fighting the good fight when really you're just kicking in some sand farmers door to preach the good word of heckler and koch all over his family.

I hope you have a civil war and nuke yourselves. You're all disgusting.
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>>186836348
>"Communism" was used to attack anyone that didn't kowtow to the American Empire
Yeah and it was also used to attack the actual subversive communist spies in America... just like the Japanese internment was used to get real Japanese spies.

Which is kinda the entire argument I'm making here buddy.

>We've been at war with the middle east for so long from what started as a propaganda machine created by the CIA based on calling them communists so we could get at their oil after declaring it a natural resource.
Oh.

>Communism and the fear is nothing but toxic American idealism of fighting the good fight when really you're just kicking in some sand farmers door to preach the good word of heckler and koch all over his family.
Oh?

>I hope you have a civil war and nuke yourselves. You're all disgusting.
Oh...
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>>186834762
not that guy but it's absolutely terrible. it's been said many times around here but just don't don't do it.
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>>186836348
>butthurt eur*pean
>reply no. 666
wow rly make u think huh!?!?!?
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>>186835993
>it was clear
>I never mentioned you posting or how many posts you made
> 14 of the autistposts in this thread and that was the only one from me, bud
What did you mean by that, like literally what did that have to do with anything.

>this policy wasn't based and etched in racism for racist reasons by racist people
then why didn't we intern the Germans (A much larger percentile of our population) on the same scale? The reasons stated were that we were "afraid of a japanese invasion" when anybody who's opened a book on the Pacific war knew that an invasion of America was the last thing Japan wanted to do, and the second to last thing it could do, the first being making it to America. Did you forget how they barely made it to Pearl Harbor?
>yet to prove it
I don't have to, I didn't make the original claim, in fact I'd technically argue it's not racism as it doesn't imply they're inferior or possess unique qualities that make them deserving on internment et al Germany but to deny that it wasn't a bigoted decision is to ignore how America has historically treated it's Asian immigrants.
>communism was a real threat
Yes, but Charlie Chaplin wasn't.
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>The comments on Japanese interment camps

Odd question, but you guys think in Fallout-verse, when the Chinese were getting interred in camps the US government just threw in any Asians in there, or do you think they were a little more cautious?

Especially since, with the 1950's mentality, Japan was seen as 'good buddies'/a meatshield against communism.
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>>186836632
I feel like anybody with yellow skin was the enemy and anybody with pale skin was friendly as far as asians went. I dunno how they felt about the rest, but I'd assume they wouldn't differentiate between Han Chinese, Manchu, and Viet for instance. Korean would be my big question, did NK win or did SK win in FO?
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>"human's arm broken. kick and bite instead."

Strong is a dude who just gets me, man. He and I, we get along.
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>>186836632
More than likely anyone that was asian was seen as the enemy as was the sentiment in America at the time.
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>>186834497
>>186834762

Do you like Borderlands 2's writing? If the answer is anything less than an enthusiastic yes, delete
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>>186836573
>then why didn't we intern the Germans (A much larger percentile of our population) on the same scale?
Is the scale meant to be the absolute measure of how racist something is? If the fact was that German and Japanese and Italian nationals were interned based on nationalist and history, why isn't is all racist?

Could it be these three groups of people were all interred because of the fucking WORLD WAR happening? Could the smaller percentage of ethnic German and ethnic Italian camps be indicative of the fact that America was settled by Germans and Italians for centuries therefore it was impossible to imprison such massive percentage of the population during wartime without having massive upsets in the war economy? I'll have you know my grandfather and grandmother were both interred in Canadian camps because they were Italian for the entire duration of the war, and maybe for him it was a good idea since he fucking hated Canada and wanted to flee to Italy and fight in Africa.

>I don't have to prove anything
If you want anyone to take you serious, yeah, you have to substantiate what you're saying with reasonable arguments.

>Yes, but Charlie Chaplin wasn't.
That's very unfortunate for Charlie Chaplin, isn't it?
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>>186837067
>German and Italian nationals were interred
>Japanese ethnics were interred
Fixed. Germans and Italians were interred based on their nationality (you know, provable ties to enemies)
Japanese were interred based on ethnicity, simply being of Japanese descent was enough to get you interred.

>interred because of the world war
No, not really, the Germans and Italians were interred due to provable links with enemies, sure, the Japanese were interred because they were a distinct ethnic group and easier to separate and paint as a scapegoat.

>implying I care whether someone who literally hasn't finished their high school history course takes me seriously
Knock yourself out m9, I'm here all year.
>unfortunate for him
Either it was a threat or it wasn't, all you did by refusing to argue against that point is prove that it wasn't nearly as great as it was panned out to be.
>falling for burger propaganda
>ever
you gonna pine on about how the representative republic is a democracy next? We got a few more memes to pass before we can declare you All-American.
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>>186836632
>>Odd question, but you guys think in Fallout-verse, when the Chinese were getting interred in camps the US government just threw in any Asians in there, or do you think they were a little more cautious?
What I think is they didn't flush this out enough in the lore to talk about.
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How did we go from that to this? For fuck's sake, even your average burn victim looks MUCH more horrifying than Hancock.
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>>186837634
It happened around a decade ago, with a game called Fallout 3.
How fucking late to this party are you anon?
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>>186830987

I only use Vats for making super cool gameplay webms!
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>>186837556
>Japanese were interred based on ethnicity
Based on their ethnicity from a nation that the United States and the Allies were at war with. The Japanese were a more recent and smaller percentage of the population and most of them were situation on the West Coast, especially in San Francisco. If they happened to be white skinned and wearing lederhosen the exact same thing would have happened (and did happen to tens of thousands.) Damn those fucking Americans being racist to those Germans.

>No, not really, the Germans and Italians were interned due to provable links with enemies, sure, the Japanese were interred because they were a distinct ethnic group and easier to separate and paint as a scapegoat.
No, go fuck yourself and search up about the known Japanese spies that were in America at the time.

>implying I care whether someone who literally hasn't finished their high school history course takes me seriously
Whatever you want to believe my man.

>Either it was a threat or it wasn't, all you did by refusing to argue against that point is prove that it wasn't nearly as great as it was panned out to be.
We're not debating the nature of truth, obviously he was a threat or he wasn't, but human beings happen to not be soothsayers and can't detect someone's ideological composition. You're barking up the wrong tree if you're bringing up political persecution, since that happens on all fronts and has happened on all fronts since the dawn of politics and civilization. What I'm really saying is damn, that sucks for Charlie Chaplin if he happened to not be some sort of spy, but thank Christ for the communist spies that were captured by the same people.

>falling for burger propaganda
Lol, criticizing or critiquing Communism is hardly a fucking American invention. I'm not even American so I don't know why you're calling me one.
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>>186836785
What melee weapons would /fog/ give to an army of jangles?

Weapon mods suggestions are welcomed
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Tried downloading MCAM, but every time an "error" occurs while NMM tries to install it.
Any idea what the "error" is? my google-fu reveals nothing.
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>>186838735
>Japanese
>Interred
>based on their ethnicity
And you have just there admitted that this was a bigoted decision influenced by a racial political climate, thank you and good night.
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>>186837686
fallout 3 ghouls were still pretty grizzly though
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>>186839063
Is that supposed to look better than Hancock? I mean, sure, I could understand that for recent ghouls, but after 200 years of weather, wear, and tear you'd think all those flaps of skin would have fucked off or worn down, you know?
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>>186839178
oh fuck off, that clearly looks way better than fo4 ghouls
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>>186839000
>from a nation that the United States and the Allies were at war with
So basically with your weaselly way of thinking you can chalk anything up to racism just because two different races of people happen to be fighting.

>Italian
>Interred
>based on their ethnicity

>German
>Interred
>based on their ethnicity

Go read up on what Canada did to Germans, Austrians and Hungarians within Canada during WWI.
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>>186836746
>>186836869
>>186837562
I guess I could see it, even in my headcanon: if Fallout-verse America tightened their hold on Japan into a strangle, they'd probably never trust Japanese people fully no matter how 'Americanized' they would be.

Also in this weaboo headcanon, a lot of Vault Experiments were inspired by Unit 731's experiments. Both carried out and in planning stages. Also there's a Japanese Brotherhood of Steel with strong samurai themes with no actual connection to the US one (it's just a case of two people having the same idea) and Tsutomu Yamaguchi was the first ghoul

>>186837634
>>186839063
>>186839178
I think it's really because they wanted ghouls to be 'a little more realistic' and look like they could still be living people who have just been mutated rather than Not!Zombies.
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Is there any lore-friendly pistol/SMG that doesn't look like a plastic oversized toy?
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>>186839884
I think that it's because it's the best fit for the current semi-realistic semi-cartoony artstyle.
fo3's style was more realistic, fo4 is a departure from that.
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>>186840014
I don't know, about the Fo1-NV style as being exactly 'more realistic'.

I mean to me, it's more realistic for someone who's DIED of radiation poisoning over time.

But not someone who not only is alive, but even thrives/regenerates in radiation rich environments.

The contrasts between non-feral and feral ghouls is pretty stark though.
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>>186839890
Grease gun, P90, MP5, Uzay neinmillimeater, Å korpion, Sten, MP38
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>>186839890
45 Auto pistol, 357 revolver, 9mm pistol, and 45 SMG to name a few
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>>186840126
just look at the deathclaws. the art style of the game itself is less realistic.

wether the depictions of ghoul bodies is """"scientifically"""" realistic or not is another discussion.

imo pre-fo4 looked more lore-accurate, but I see where you're coming from.
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>>186796372

I looked at it

It was kinda neat I guess
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>>186796372
It only covered like 20% from the bottom for me so it wasn't really that exciting.
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>>186796372
it was like 30% where I live, so I forgot about it
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>>186840174
>>186840195
Oh yeah, the m1911 was in Honest Hearts. There's like 5 colts on the nexus, which one do you guys use?
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>>186840584
.45 Auto Pistol
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>>186840650
>.45 Auto Pistol
Cheers.
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>>186840584
>which one do you guys use?
.44 Magnum always, I never use the .45 Auto
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>>186840429

The "concept art" of the Deathclaw is actually the high poly model. Like millions of polys.

They use that model to generate the normal maps for the low poly version. Its basically the same exact model.
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>>186839884
>I guess I could see it, even in my headcanon: if Fallout-verse America tightened their hold on Japan into a strangle, they'd probably never trust Japanese people fully no matter how 'Americanized' they would be.
I'm not even sure how much information there is on Japan in the Fallout universe. I feel like the in the conditions of the Fallout universe it would be pretty justified to fear people you perceive as your enemies.
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where is Tim Cain now?
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>>186840429
>werewolf to goofy hulk lizard to demon to dinosaur
deathclaw can't help but be cool can it?
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How would one go about uninstalling the M's Abominations creature mod? It replaces too many vanilla creatures for my liking.
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>>186840584
In NV/TTW?
Hunting Shotgun.

In 4?
Always have a pipe revolver on me.
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>>186841980
uninstalling it safely, I mean.
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>>186841181
>>186842105
I linked the wrong post.
Apologies
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>>186841740
yeah but there's no actual concept art in the art book.
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having this bug in NV where whenever I'm crouched my fov keeps jerking to the left, anyone experience this?
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>>186842638
and also when I'm not crouched and just in combat
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>>186841754
To be honest, basically nothing's been confirmed as I understand.

Fallout 4's given us our biggest mentions of Japan as I recall, and that's mostly in the form of Takashi the noodlebot (whom no one seems to recognize his noodles as a Japanese food, and Danse mistakes his language as Chinese, only Curie recognizes it as Japanese, which says something when Deacon doesn't know or understand him) and the current flame sword which is mentioned as being an ancestral heirloom of the Finch family. (makes for sense given how many Japanese swords were taken as trophies by American soldiers in WWII. The wrapping suggests it's a genuine blade too than a gunto)

There's possibly allusion in the FO1 opening Narration I think, when it's mentioned 'entire islands disappeared into boiling seas'.

This may or may not have included Japan, especially since China and Japan have looooooong history of animosity and I sometimes suggest the gag headcanon that there's still American wastelands to explore because China spent most of it's nuclear Arsenal on Japan.

Still, I like to toy with ideas and imagine my own: "Fallout: Japan" scenario.
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>>186840143
That genuinely just looks like a Tumblr post.

Super brief gif put through a shitty filter (or probably ENB in your case) that is always like 3 frames a second for some reason.

The trademark Tumblr gif set.
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>>186843914
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>>186834207
Hey, that's Photoshopped! He's a phony! A big, fat phony!
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>Finish first season of Westworld
Fuck no synths aren't human and can never be human. Death to those robot fuckers.
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>>186844263
>implying hosts are even remotely as human as synths
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>>186844335
>implying synths are even remotely as human as hosts
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>>186844263
>>186844335
>>186844448

Imo, synths are just human clones with a digital / neural interface

I suppose its innocent enough being able to upload a robot AI into a synth gril. But I just had a thought: What if the Institute kept increasing the capacity for synth minds to hold more and more data? What if a computer terminal got uploaded into a synth? OR a super computer got uploaded into a synth? The Institute could easily have an Ultron situation on their hands.
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>>186844448
The way that hosts are reused and repaired and have pretty much everything about them is pretty blatantly just script written by some writers. Plus only one of them seems to get any real sapience by the end of the show after a massive amount of effort and time put towards that goal. Whilst every gen 3 synth seems to have sapience from the get go, despite the efforts of the Institute scientists to quell the "bug", and generally seem to fear the idea of memory fuckery.
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>>186844970
They threaten one synth with it, just for not sweeping properly. A courser stops her in the hall and asks if she was poking around, and she's like "n-no" and he says he mind mind wipe her and she sounds afraid.

That's pretty messed up if you think about it.
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>>186844890
Something kinda bothers me about the "are synths human" debate. Humans are homo sapiens, and synths are being made to mimic homo sapiens, but in a lot of ways, many of them are basically equal to homo sapiens. Why can't they just be basically equal to homo sapiens, but be considered a different thing? Why do they HAVE to be homo sapiens?

Makes me embarrassed to call myself homo.
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>>186845458
>many of them are basically equal to homo sapiens
But that's false, all of them don't need to eat, sleep, can't gain weight also are faster and stronger without any effort.
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>>186840143
>>186844016
Haven't played Fallout 4 in ages, started a new playthrough, and picked up Cait. I had forgotten just how much I dislike her.
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>>186844970
>The way that hosts are reused and repaired and have pretty much everything about them is pretty blatantly just script written by some writers.
:^)
>Plus only one of them seems to get any real sapience by the end of the show after a massive amount of effort and time put towards that goal.
More convincing story than a random going "Oh noes!!! The Institute are teh boogeyman!! btw, I have a robotic facsimile of free will"

>>186845823
>this is what is known to go beyond homo sapian
>beyond super sapian
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>>186845458
Humans are the only sapient species we have as reference. In most settings, AI/androids/artificial life is created specifically to mimic human beings, as well. It just seems like a frame of reference thing most of the time. If there were more than one sapient life form around, particularly ones that do not share the same "family tree", it would probably be framed differently.
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>>186845823
though, according to the terminal on McDonough though, they also can never be any faster and stronger than what they are no matter how much effort they put into it.

But seriously, would it have really killed the Institute to just spring for some lipsuction fo the guy?

>>186844970
>>186845237
>DiMA mentions the Institute designed synths to be able to make their own judgement and formulate their own solutions.
>They proceed to mind-wipe them when they demonstrate those exact abilities
>Their oh-so-amazing Coursers seem to be stripped of their abilities to work creatively and rely on their inherent abilities and equipment for any mission
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>>186846054
He was made to replicate a specific person who was fat
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>>186845864
robotic facsimile of free will perfectly describes hosts. Not synths.
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>>186846054
>>They proceed to mind-wipe them when they demonstrate those exact abilities
But they also turn them into Coursers because of it too
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>>186846054
>But seriously, would it have really killed the Institute to just spring for some lipsuction fo the guy?
I know that's a hahah goof but if the guy suddenly weighed 20 pounds less, he'd instantly be labeled a synth... which he is.
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>>186846054
Sounds like the average dev team vs. management argument, to me, honestly.
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>>186845854
Understandable. There are reasons to not like her and not everyone will.

>>186845458
"humanity" is not exclusive to a biological species that can check off a list of physical traits, like being born or being mammals.

The Iron Giant had a great deal of "humanity", yet was an actual metal robot, Optimus Prime, the Replicants pondering what it means to live, etc.
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>>186846154
ok
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>>186846280
>The Iron Giant had a great deal of "humanity", yet was an actual metal robot, Optimus Prime, the Replicants pondering what it means to live, etc.
Yeah, they display the capacity to feel a set of emotions on-par with humans, but that doesn't make them human-- nobody looks at Optimus Prime and tries to argue that he is human, just an equally sapient. That's what I feel the situation with the Synths are, they're not human, but they're human adjacent.
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Are there any decent mods for fallout 3? Ideally something to help with the weapon and armor variety.

TTW is out because I pirated 3 and NV
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>>186846805
I agree that having humanity, and being human are different things. That's what I was trying to say if I my words were clumsy.

A thing having humanity means it should be treated as an entity capable of feeling, and therefore should be treated in a similar fashion as you would treat a human. The same "rights" if you want to go that far.

So for me the question is not so much whether or not synths are human. I believe that's irrelevant. They are clearly sentient, and have humanity, and should therefore be treated as human.

If a green glob monster expressed sentience and humanity, I would treat it the same. I think the whole "are they human" part of the discussion is slightly beside the point.
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>>186846280
Optimus Prrime is a member of a sentient machine race that can think and feel. They have their own culture and technology.
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>>186846805
>>186847147
>synths are sentient and even capable of humanity

fucking abominations, they are neither sentient or capable of anything resembling humanity
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>>186847147
>caitfag posts a non-cait picture
IMPOSTER!
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>>186847308
What are you talking about, Cait is right there on the sole survivor's left.
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>>186847308
I trawl deviantart and tumblr and all those sites a lot, a lot of the random images reposted a lot were me.

>>186847243
Go to bed Arthur.

>>186847159
Indeed. As such, I would treat him with the same rights and respects I would a human. I'm not sure if you're disagreeing.
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>>186847748
It's nice to hear that you would treat a Transformer as a real person. We need more people like you in this world.
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Is November 13th a good day to start winter by installing the seasons mod?
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Are there any mods that add (either mutant or original) turkeys, cod and cranberries?
I already have the baked beans and custom winter as 'm in the Colonial Boston feel.
>include Salem
>no Turkey
>includes Christmas
>not Thanksgiving
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Should I put Consistent Power Armor and the Brotherhood one below IG in my load order?
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>>186847915
How DID Bethesda fuck this up
>The American city most popularly associated with baked beans is Boston
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>People yell at others who use vats
>The people who don't basically just snipe and use pistols or rifles, usually modern

Boring
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>>186846990
he doesn't know ttw works with pirated versions
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new thread

>>186848379
>>186848379
>>186848379
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>>186848301
>ever WANTING to use TTW
TTW is the last refuge of a man who's copy of Fallout 3 won't work on his modern OS.
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>>186848443
don't out me like this anon
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