/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

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>He claims to be a good engineer
>He can't produce more energy than a Type-II civilization on the Kardashev scale
Really makes you think.

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>>186362636
>tfw chef has only one job slot

>>186362989
No you idjit, it's chloraling literally anyone who comes near you and searching them while being on combat stimulants so not even deathstings can stunlock you.

The sps is a band-aid on the sucking chest wound of shitcurity and you can go fuck yourself if you think it's more important that a guy doesn't have to use a disposal bin than sec getting stunned, silenced, killed, looted, and spaced again and again without a peep with no extra effort. Really, fucking kill yourself. The SPS isn't what's holding sec cooperation back and it in no way is stopping shouting x at y doing z with abc and if you didn't have literal autism you'd be able to recognize that. holy shit this makes me so goddamn pissed.

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>Tfw botanist has 2 job slots too many

>>186363381
Whats your mommi setup time?
Whats your human setup time?
Have you tried seeing the effects of releasing the gas in the middle of the station?

I'd love to see a RUST antag, but its damn near impossible as a non mommi I think.

>>186363473
I actually agree with that. I mean, you might need two botanists max. Assuming one wants to do plant harvest autism, and one wants to do gene autism. But thats pretty rare considering most botanists are brain dead retards who barely know how to use plant bags, or autismo's who think leaving 50000 no fruits cycling on the floor is a good meme.

>>186363381
>Look ma, I have a matter fabricator, protolathe, and a T3 charger!

>>186363479
Most of the setup time is in making it actually generate power. If you just want to murder shit with your supergiant sun
It's pretty reasonably done if you get help and delegate

Basically, at any given time there's a huge amount of open doors connected to the primary's so everything jumps to a couple thousand C before the first firelock slams down but by then it's too late

>>186363473
Just play research botanist, cargo tech, or hollow out ghetto botany and drop that soil

>>186363389
I'm afraid to eat your food now you poisoning fuck

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>>186363389

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>>186363749
>Kill majority of the station with special sauce one round
>Don't roll antag for a few rounds
>No one eats my food
>It just piles up on the counters and gets blown away by ZAS at some point

Welp time ditch this static.

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>>186363479
The fastest I've hit a yottawatt is ~30 minutes as a human, I think the challenge makes it more interesting as a carbon than a silicon.
The effect on people is actually really disappointing, I would expect at levels like that for people to just sort of vanish or at least get gibbed, but it's nothing special. Maybe playing with ZAS settings could make it a little more dangerous.

>>186364073
It doesn't help. Basically every major poison round puts people off food for about 4-6 months

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post pictures

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>>186364578

>>186364073
I like Eustace just.. lay off chef

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>>186364578

>>186364067
Damn, having your newsfeed screenshot and saved on another persons PC is like the highest praise for a journalist

Cheers, random anonymous user

ok I need a good weapon for dealing with the troubles id run into whille I'm flying around in the pod. that can also fit inside my backpack.

>>186365516
2-3 advanced energy guns, stack of metal. alternatively, you can take 2-3 ballistics and 2 boxes of mags. Craft a buckler out of 5 wood and don't forget to load a medkit with pill bottles of crash meds. With a hand tele and some gps you can just ping pong back and forth as needed

>>186363473
>>186363643
I plan on being a new retard botanist. How do?

>>186365784

at round start I don't know where i'd get any of that. I suppose I could request a gun. making a buckler seems fun. I think what I'm gonna start doing is find vox station and break into and make a sword or something.

>>186367194
Go to Primary Tool Storage for additional access.

Boring job of fighting for everyone's rights, AI

what research has pod weaponry if there is any? I'd like to see more than the taser

>>186367752

I wanted to kill myself, Kupo!

>>186367791
combat

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>>186367194
If you need anyone's permission or compliance, you aren't ready. You have to roll up and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4irXQhgMqg

There's wood all over the station for a buckler. A sword is as simple as 15 metal and an autolathe. Don't bully the vox who are the thinnest excuse from anywhere from 5-9+ people from the station going out of their way to hunt them down and gut them in complete disregard of the fact that they were simply defending themselves and their shit
You can also just jetpack around to drop flipped tables and fire a cannon, 18 flamethrowers, and whatever else your job can easily scrounge. A polysmoke stasis venom sword and a buckler is the strongest vault clearing tool as long as you stay fed to avoid slowdown so you can get out of it in time. For the mobs that care about it, a couple boxes full of molotovs will roast them while you sit behind cover as they die will let you work through nearly all vaults

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>>186369009
>stay fed
Hyperzine

>>186362636
Does anyone have that one deathsquad video with the text to speech? I remember one of the lines being
>Spiders are just legend.

>>186370431
There's only one segment with text to speech AND that's the only good joke.
Its mostly just clearing out medbay.

On a scale of do it faggot to deadmin now, how would you feel about security lockers getting a 6-shot flare revolver that had to be cocked with each shot. It's also small enough to fit in the security belt. Not having the lawgiver for flaring bungles my gum

>>186363471
>The SPS isn't what's holding sec cooperation back

Yes it is, a big part of it anyway. I don't know why you're sperging out like this. Do you have mental problems? You genuinely seem like you aspergers. Are you seeing a therapist?

>>186371960
No, it physically doesn't prevent it. Shitters will be shit regardless you dumbass. Not having an sps wont suddenly fix them just like it didn't before they were added in. It was pulling goddamn teeth trying to get a battle buddy then and it still is now.

>>186372605
you weren't even the detective

>>186372665
I wish I was
Instead I was both Evan and Pardo

>>186372665
I was just going to let everyone come into the holding cell at escape and let everyone beat the shit out of the red suit but then I got gunned down

>>186372732
But who was the REAL Miami Mutilator

>>186372790
I got Miami Mutilated, so I couldn't tell you

thank god I got emagged its a lot easier to just murder people than actually uphold law. I figured at least 1 other person would be sec so I could just buddy cop it up. Nope a goddamn serial killer for my first sec shift.

>>186371775
Does not make me want the video any less

>>186372826
>sec at 4am
it's glorified tdm this early

>>186372826
>Nope a goddamn serial killer for my first sec shift.
>thank god I got emagged
I hope you were on robocop at least to be making those claims.

>>186372993
>the LAW

>>186372790
>Decide I will make falls walls everywhere so I can become a clown ghost.
>This goes no where and I never had a plan for it.
>See red guy drag a body and drop a note next to me.
>I alert the reporter!
>people getting spaced.
>try to telesci some people but can't get coords with no CMC and guy isn't giving me the right location or something
>Go around and try and find the killer, but hear he has a harm baton so probably has shades so flash is out.
>Breaking into engineering to get away from beepsky and get oxygen to go explore for bodies, except shuttle gets called.
>As I run out I find the killer in maintenance and chase him out!
>Round a corner, beepsky'd!
>Beats the shit out of me and handcuffs me.
>Miami Mutilator appears and starts batonning the shit out of me with beepsky
>Beepsky turns on MM and batons the shit out of him and handcuffs him while I alert detective.
>Go to the escape where detective has set up the Beat the Mutiliator booth.
>It was the reporter all along.
>Gunned down by random slav.

>>186372826
You know, in the future if your battery is that low you can get the traitor to swap it with one from an apc. Saves a bunch of time.

>>186373186

i c. forgive me I am new. The worst part was being blind and having to walk to charge station from the holodeck, I wound up in the showers for a second.

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>>186373042
You were a good Clown, I'm glad you helped me kick-start the articles by calling me to the first body
I didn't even see Beepsky when I started beating you at the end

also
>random slav

>>186372080
Of course it doesn't physically prevent anyone from communicating more, in no way could it even be physical. But there genuinely was more communication and it was easier to work together before the SPS. And I'm not talking about shitters, even experienced/veteran/decent sec players don't do it now, because they literally don't have to. Don't tell me people didn't communicate more or that it wasn't a lot easier to get a battle buddy before, because it was. It's just that now even not-terrible players realize they don't have to communicate in order to get saved or not die. Unless you're going to tell me that literally every security player is a shitter and security has always been shit, which I know to be wrong.

That's not the only problem with the SPS though. It was more work to discover who the antagonist was, where he was, what he was doing etc before the SPS was added in. Now finding antagonists is a trivial task. It doesn't take any real effort to catch antags that aren't people like Yred. You can say that only shit antags get screwed over by SPS, but I'm going to straight up tell you that isn't true. You can end every single antag that makes the mistake of setting off an SPS, without any prior preparation or investigation, just by showing up to where the SPS goes off if you're good enough.

There aren't really any ways to completely get around it without a significant amount of work, which is dumb because officers get the SPS for nothing. If it was locked behind RnD it would be completely fine, but it's a straight buff to security that requires no effort or thought when a buff was completely unneeded. Unless you want to tell me how security got its shit pushed in every round by every antag for years? More likely I think you'll whine again about uncommunicative officers getting picked off by stealth antags in maint though. Which is another thing the SPS ruined, being a stealth antag is significantly harder to pull off perfectly.

>>186372826
Alrighty so robocop was only used once today like 8 hours ago so you weren't THE LAW. So you know, secborg is waaaay further from 'being sec' than a lot of people think, so maybe don't do that for the proppa sec experience.

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>>186373415
>this sperg still going on about the sps
make a PR then faggot you won't though

>>186373415
Maybe the real problem is that there would be both IC and administrative shit slung if you just stunned and stripped of goodies "officers" that would only be liabilities.

>>186373295
It's just that the engineer already said you might be emagged over the radio and in that situation it's usually a race to stop anyone who has the access to detonate you from the robotics console.

>>186373489

I was the only sec the ship had until the detective showed up. and I did a shit job I know that.

>>186373415
>all this
>just a round about way to say you want to antag easier

>>186373642
He's just saying that you are security in no way at all. You are a cyborg with stuns and handcuffs for the ability to enforce law 1

>>186373565
the other dude is a bigger sperg, I'm just trying to have a productive conversation about the SPS and outline its faults and why it's been an unhealthy addition to the game.

>>186373621
I can't imagine it would be that bad, to be honest. I don't recall it being too big of a deal back then either. People complained about shitter officers dying sure but that's not actually a big deal and officers getting their shit stolen and used by criminals is realistic to be completely honest

>>186373668
I want sec to be harder. It's literally too easy now. You know it's true

>>186374063

thats what I was doin mostly.

>>186374071
here's your (you)

>>186374071
>I can't imagine it would be that bad, to be honest
It invariably depends on how much they whinge to admins and which admins are online. That's been my experience in very similar matters.

>>186374263
thanks

>>186374279
I would be okay with shitflinging and shitter officers getting told off for letting themselves be looted if it meant being rid of the SPS.

>>186374353
I'll put it this way. It'd be the sort of shitflinging that leads to your final, permanent permaban for recidivistic niggery (even though it's somewhat less so in this case but you get the idea).

>>186374353
Do you have any idea how strong stuns are in this game?
A single stun can basically be a death sentence. You can only get so much information out over sec comms before being cuffed/stripped. You just want to antag easier you fag.

Who is the chest chef that space has ever had?
We already know kayahi is the best bartender and rowen for botany.

>>186374453
Stop telling me what I want. You're way off the mark.

>>186374430
You know it wouldn't :^)

>>186374353
>letting themselves be looted
It's like you have no idea how long slips or stuns last and how much you can get away with on /vg/. The SPS is the the sole item that stops a lot of greytiders and antags from just nabbing an officer 5 minutes into the round.

>>186374453
It's not like you can cut 4 door wires, either chloral or use your antags built-in stun+silence, strip em outside an airlock and lob the body into deep space. You can cut the head off too and just blow it up once the chase dies down too.

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>>186374583
>>Stop telling me what I want. You're way off the mark.
>literally just wants to antag easier
Thank christ you'll never get what you want.

>>186374583
I know it can, because I received a lot of annoying bitching from admins and angry notes when I did just that, in ways that were PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE I assure you.

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>>186374071
I agree but it's one of those things so ingrained into the server that even suggesting their removal will cause an autism cascade.

>Haha nobody fucking uses right them so you're wrong anyway lol
>Great, now I can suggest a PR to set them as research only/remove them on the grounds of nobody using them/using them correctly in addition to them being a terrible introduction to the security role. Securityt has survived without them and can do so still.
>NO FUCK YOU DON'T SUGGEST THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT [autistic screeching]

>>186374583
I've gotten people tempbans and notes for being greytiding little shitstains

>>186374585
Greytiders get tracked down and then they get thrown into jail, that's not a big deal. And antags nabbing an officer 5 minutes into the round is a much bigger risk than you're giving it credit for. It's not like all of security would suddenly be murdered every round if you removed the SPS. They're still armed and dangerous and plenty of sec players are really experienced and won't be caught offguard by bullshit like chloral most of the time.

>>186374713
>>186374770
Wait are you talking about officers getting robusted and looted in general by greytiders? Why is this relevant, greytiders do it anyway for "legitimate" reasons and a greytider LITERALLY slipping and stealing an officer's shit 5 minutes into the round is the sort of banbait that draws shitters out into the open. What's the problem?

>>186374740
Yeah it's a little depressing. I'm just hoping enough people will agree so that maybe it can be changed in the future. I honestly don't understand how some players can want such a blatant crutch. It doesn't even make security more fun or anything it just ruins rounds more often than not.

What is SPS?

>>186375258
tells every officer where everyone else is at all times and alerts the entire security team when it's stripped or the officer dies, as well as giving the exact location where it happened.

stands for Secure Positioning System

>>186375258
Red GPS that beeps the other GPSs when it gets stripped or the wearer dies.

>>186375338
Other SPSes, I should say. They have a separate "secure" list that doesn't overlap with the GPS list that the Science, Mining, and Engineering GPSes have.

>>186375338
>>186375312
So why all the sperging? They are useful and make sense in terms of the game. hell I play sec all the time and didn't even release they were a major talking point. They are just nice because they make security not the instant first target for every antag.

>>186375512
I miss the days of no SPS. It was a better time.

there should be a non-trackable SPS that tells the traitor when an SPS goes off so they can move to a new spot

>>186375904
Pretty sure the triggered SPS itself already makes an audible announcement.

>Old sec player complaining about SPS
>Doesn't seem to realize that sec is 95% braindead mute idiots nowadays
>People that couldn't buddy up if you glued them to one another
>People that couldn't perform regular check-ins if you surgically implanted an alarm clock in their heads
>Antag standard MO is to chloralmaint lockerstrip
>"But why do we need SPSes?"

>>186375512
They didn't exist once upon a time. It meant that officers had to have awareness of their battle pals at all times. Back then it was entirely possible to disguise yourself as a security officer after consuming their identity and causing hysteria amongst them.

Now every officer has a alarm that tells them some retard died and can quickly respond. Most of the time I've heard the SPS alarm in the hall from another sec officer and arrive on scene faster than them as another job. It's a bandaid solution to zero awareness mall cops that's incredibly strong to an aware sec officer. Outside of dragging out officers into space, bodies are relatively easy to find on every map save for deff if you have something to tell you there's someone down.

Ultimately it just made it harder for antags to get the ball rolling and since I'm too lazy to go through the hassles of robusting people I just bomb because it's fun

>>186375243
It's simply better to have the SPS because of them getting meme'd than it is to not

>>186376259
1: Just don't kill sec as antag, you're probably a chloral shitter anyway so just dump them somewhere in maint without a headset
2: EMPs disrupt SPS units
3: The only people that get SPS units are HVTs that get reward you with massive loot if you take them out, so it evens out

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>it's a space friend acts like you're a pariah and ditches you when their other friend asks them to episode
I know it's just a game but it reminds me of when I used to be in highschool, a time I've tried to forget about.

>>186376256
Of course antag standard is to chloral maint locker strip. It's not like they have anything to stop SPSs or "HELP BLANK ANTAG"
Ever since paralysis and mute can't be taken together from a past PR and the general difficulty of kidnapping/silencing someone it has become a game of chloral auto injectors.

>95% of sec are braindead mutes
Because they longer need strong communication to play the role. The SPS helps them stay nearly idiot proof.

How long until I see a pr removing SPS' from the game By sarah johnson

>>186376259
even when officers get dragged into space you can still find the cunt that did it. I remember I tracked down a ling that jumped into space with an officer a couple months ago. He threw something in space and I tracked him down and filled his face with slugs. Around the same time I found the head of an officer somebody stashed by going to where I would have hid something in maint from the spot the officer got beheaded at. Both on deff.

People really don't understand how strong the SPS is

>>186376347
why

I think it would honestly be more interesting to have people steal sec's shit and do antag things than to sit around and completely avoid sec or anything that could alert sec because security is such a chore for them to deal with. I actually miss having shootouts in sec with people that kill officers and steal their shit or try and disguise themselves as that officer. It hardly happens anymore.

>>186376512
>just don't kill sec

Ignoring this, it's a lot easier for antags to get shit elsewhere. A sec officer's shit really isn't worth it.

>>186376704
not long I hope

>>186376512
>Just don't kill sec as antag
I wish this was an option.

I love building comfy rooms, but it feels like such a waste of time.

>>186376256
if someone is afraid of the water you push them in

It's like that here

>>186376650
Instant knockouts being standard issue is why SPSes have come into play. Not the other way around.

You can be communicatively strong and still be destroyed because nobody cares enough to check in regularly. There's no audio queues, no visual queues, just some text that appears or doesn't appear. It's just who cares enough to remember to occasionally ask if you're still alive. Not a lot of players like that play anymore.

The SPS is just a logical evolutionary tool based on the current server culture. Removing it'd just bring sec back to 0pop at all times.

>>186376259
They literally didn't because they were fucking retards.

It really didn't. Simply be aware of them. Once you are, you just space them, the only difference is if you were a chloral shitter or one of the other meme antags, someone knows something happened instead of 20 kills, 0 clues.

>>186376878
>if someone is afraid of the water you push them in
>It's like that here
No, this is a village of folks saying "I was never taught how to swim and this water is almost zero degrees" with a handful of viking icedivers telling everyone that they're casual shitters

>>186376882
>Not a lot of players like that play anymore.

I wonder why this could be

also you are severely overestimating the effect that the SPS would have on sec pop. If a PR goes through and nobody plays sec anymore and sec gets murdered/chloral stripped 5 minutes in the round 24/7 I'll admit I was wrong, but I get the feeling that won't actually happen.

>>186376982
>but I get the feeling that won't actually happen.
That was the case before the SPS was introduced. That exact thing is why SPSes were introduced.

If I didn't know any better I'd think you were just a salty antag who'd never played sec before in their life.

>>186376982
Shit, this guy has had feelings on all sorts of things for the past couple hours, I think we should trust him guys

>>186376975
CAN'T LEARN HOW TO ICEDIVE IF YOU DON'T JUMP IN

JUST
DO
IT

>>186377054
Good thing you know better :^)

If it happened I'd eat my words. But I really doubt it. Feel free to prove me wrong. Open up a PR and test it out for a couple weeks, see what happens. It would stop all the shitposting and then we could see for sure what kind of effect it would really have.

>>186363381
>tfw 2017 earth isn't even type 1 yet
Lol

>>186376819
Because it is.
If anyone comes in to enjoy it their method is probably going to be griefing.
Best to fuck around in a map editor desu.

>>186376882
>sec at 0 pop at a times
This never ever fucking happened. You still had people like Vulgaris and thugs back then in all security slots while absolutely shitting on everyone befofe SPSs were a thing. Instant knockouts were even more prevalent because people back then took the pricky pen way more often and lings had paralysis and mute at roundstart.

>>186377054
Not him but I played security before and after SPSs and I can say that the SPS is the most powerful tool in a sec officer's arsenal.

Just make it research only :^)

>>186377228
>open PR for me pretty pleaseee honest I know what I am talking about despite all my arguments ending with "I dunno I feel like it'd work lol"
>winkyface

>>186377397
;^)

So, if one were to even attempt to make a shitty port, would the main focus be on getting a functional map and atmos system, or just getting basic systems in? And in that case, what order would the systems be built in for a proof of concept? The dependencies go fucking everywhere.

>>186377228
>CAN'T LEARN HOW TO ICEDIVE IF YOU DON'T JUMP IN
i tried it once
i nearly died

i don't feel like dying
you're dumb

>Good thing you know better :^)
Yes, good thing I do know better than to remove an essential tool that makes security bearable.

>>186377387
>This never ever fucking happened.
How long were you out for?

>I can say that the SPS is the most powerful tool in a sec officer's arsenal
I dunno about that, flashbangs are pretty robust.

>Just make it research only :^)
How about we just make them built into their suit sensors instead? And make it beep CMCs as well as every other SPS?

>>186376615
You'll be fine

>>186377451
Give up on whatever you're even thinking about planning, work on SS14 ( https://discord.gg/MwDDf6t ) instead.

>>186377453
Security was bearable long before that. This is a gross exaggeration. Do you just not want antags to kill you and get away with it?

>>186377523
Oh right, that's a thing. How far have they gotten with that, even?
I was mostly just asking from a philosophical standpoint, but alright.

>It's a feature everyone is so used to that any discussion of removing it causes autistic screechings episode

Thanks Cluster

>>186377627
of fucking course

>>186377523
>Security was bearable long before that. This is a gross exaggeration.
I dunno man, I got pretty sick of being headlessly spaced every round without being able to do jack shit about it just because I was an easy target.
>Do you just not want antags to kill you and get away with it?
No, I just want antags to actually have a hard time rather than just choraldumping me to get easy loot.

>>186377627
Discussions so far have been pretty civil.

>>186377675
maybe by thread standards

does anyone know who the SPS shitter is
I wish they'd make a PR so they can see that everyone hates the idea

>>186377675
Discussion so far has been a bunch of manchildren going "well I remember" this and "No actually it was the complete opposite" that. No concensus will ever be reached, the autistic kid in the corner will continue using emoticons to pretend he isn't deeply into this asinine issue.

>>186377675
so give them a hard time. If this is a serious post, there's definitely a lot you could learn about playing sec so that kind of thing doesn't happen, or at least not as often. Did you at least take the time to learn how to not die so easily?

>>186377798
Not everyone hates the idea. A good handful of players actually dislike the SPS. Don't let the amount of whining in the thread convince you that literally everyone is on board with sec being massively overpowered.

>>186377817
>passive aggressive shitposting
>the autistic kid in the corner will continue using emoticons to pretend he isn't deeply into this asinine issue.

talk about projection lel

>>186377921
Literally nobody has agreed with you in the three hours you have been spouting your retarded opinions.

>>186377921
I do pretty well for myself. I'm not the most robust, but generally my unrobustness isn't what gets me killed, it's either ZAS or instant stuns / kills.

There's not much you can do when people'd rather sprint around being idiots than actually investigate things with you. I don't want to go full autismo and minmax my survivability with saraj-tier loadouts and flex slots or antitox powergayming or whatever the fuck.

>>186378013
there is at least one other poster who agrees with me, and I doubt there have been more than 3 posters who have really complained. Whenever I brought this up before a handful of posts would respond positively. You're kidding yourself.

>>186378049
And yet here you are, not opening that PR to be publicly mocked, instead deluding yourself you have an imaginary backing.

>>186377921
the only whining I see is one particularly upset autist complaining that the SPS turns officers into antag destroying gods and that back in my day we got chloral spaced and liked it
If you want serious discussion take it to github and stop spewing your ghey rhetoric here

>>186378049
>>186378121
Just open up a PR anyway and see what happens. Still worth discussing elsewhere.

>>186378121
>>186378207
This, desu.

>>186378043
dealing with instant stuns is a part of the game. ZAS can be pretty bullshit I'll grant you, but everything an antag can do you can do too. As an officer you even have the advantage in a lot of cases because you have a ranged stun. Antags have stealth but stealth goes out the window when they aren't good at being subtle. You can even see the sprite for pretty much any stealth weapon so as long as you're paying attention you can react. But you have to remember that you can't always win and sometimes the player on the other side gets a turn, that's just part of the game.

>>186378121
>>186378207
I'll get around to it eventually, I swear. I want to flesh out the discussion in the thread before I even consider opening a PR.

>>186378197
your post is as whiney as any I've made

>>186378287
Compromise; what if SPSes went off 30-60 seconds after they were supposed to?
Or, hell, what if EMPs just scrambled them longer?

>>186376723
Stop saying why to me you retarded cunt, I keep fucking telling you then you groundhog day like a motherfucker. Fucking kill yourself 2hotdogs so sick of your shit.

That's because as the playerbase ages a lot fuck off and it's replaced by pub shitters who, you guessed it, are pub shitters

>Cut 4 wires
Whew lad, such an unreasonable burden. Surely the sps are the scourge killing antagonism. Only idiots are chickenshit about an officers sps and even less take advantage of retards coming to their death.

>>186378368
Just let me antag easier, reeeeeeeeee

>>186378368
the problem was never about whether or not you could get around them, it literally just makes playing security braindead easy

>>186378368
Who the hell even uses EMPs outside of security anyway? Every time I used EMP nades the results are always incredibly lack luster.
>>186378404
Are you going to be ok anon
>>186378435
just let me sec easier, reeeeeeeeee

>>186378471
EMP's are strong as fuck. Most of shitcurity are retarded as fuck and plank when you take their crutches away

>>186378445
>it literally just makes playing security braindead easy
You're saying that a message sent to other SPS carriers whenever you die or get stripped makes everything security-related "braindead easy"? Come on, man, you know that's a gross overstatement.

>>186378471
>Who the hell even uses EMPs outside of security anyway?
Traitor chemists / scientists / cargonians. Nuke ops. Cultists, sometimes.
>Every time I used EMP nades the results are always incredibly lack luster.
Range isn't great, low-power EMPs do jack shit against energy weapons. But if you hit a target with it, that radio / SPS scramble might give you the chance you need.

>>186378574
>Traitor chemists / scientists / cargonians. Nuke ops. Cultists, sometimes.
Oh, not to mention, vox raiders get EMP rifles and blowing a supermatter shard sends a pretty strong EMP across the station.

>>186378574
I've never seen any of those jobs actually use EMPs. Well, unless you count cargo ordering a million SME shards to EMP nuke the station. EMPs as station traitor is a nightmare to get a hold of and I wish it was easier because FUCK cyborgs

>>186377627
Cluster?

>>186378404
but you never really gave any good reasons. They're basically all "but then antags get away with killing people"

still don't see why that's such a bad thing. You may as well complain about antags doing antag things.

>>186378471
>>186378539
It's true, EMPs are incredibly robust. Problem is they're a bit of a pain to get and you can't feasibly expect them to be available most of the time.

>>186378574
It's a bit of an exaggeration, yeah. You still have to bring the person down, but that's really not that hard most of the time. It pretty much cuts out the hard part though, which is piecing together who the antag is, where he is, what he's doing, where he's going. You can figure out all of that 90% of the time just by showing up to the SPS alert.

>>186378287
>eventually
>flesh out discussion
there is no discussion
you want it, other people dont
you make the thread shittier with the constant pushing of the issue
you will never make the PR

>>186378757
that's because despite all of the "B-B-BUT THERE'S THIS THING YOU CAN USE" in the thread, almost nobody ever actually does the thing. It's a strange phenomenon.

>>186378829
do you ever get tired of being wrong?

>>186378757
Cargonians can just emag their consoles to order spec ops crates, which come with A super strong silenced .45, some smoke bombs and some EMP grenades.
Scientists generally have easy access to uranium *and* get EX grenade casings. Chemists have a harder time, but they could get some off science or grind up some glowshrooms for the uranium.

>>186378796
So how about just adding a delay to the SPS alert? Or make the SPS beep, but not give out it's info till you check the SPS list?

>>186378929
make the PR then :^)
and don't tell me the quality of the thread has been improved

>>186377627
>>186378760
This feature was made by kurfurst geniuses

>>186378960
all it does is give the antag time to get away, there are still a lot of clues that they leave behind every time and it removes the need to actually patrol/investigate and still doesn't address the problem of trivializing communication. It'd be better than what we have now for sure, but it's still undesirable.

>>186379074
the quality of the thread never improves.

>>186378796
And all yours boils down to is waaah it's okay for everyone but retards to just vanish the station without a trace all because a couple retards can't operate a wirecutter.

Uranium is available in excess in nearly every round and often by the time you've finished your scavenger hunt

Gee, it's almost like you should do something about that inevitability instead of getting to camp your meme spot until the entire sec force is wiped out without any chance to do a fucking thing about it barring severe metagaming of patrolling on every combat stim

>kill cop
>move body after stripping

wtf I beat the SPS

What is the best way to ask someone, from vg station, to ERP? Do you guys have a specific place for it? I have had my eyes one someone for a while, but I don't know the best way to go about asking her.

>>186379116
>it removes the need to actually patrol/investigate
Having to physically walk in on a crime or suspicious activity is still 80% of the job. If an SPS goes off, but there's no body nor perp, there's both something to patrol for and something to investigate.

>Still doesn't address the problem of trivializing communication
The SPS is just a giant SHIT IS FUCKED beacon. It's about equal to someone having a ":s HELP" macro. Just as easy to miss in the heat of the moment, too. I've missed a bunch of SPS warnings, and a bunch of times my SPS warning went unnoticed.

Want to make sure you get noticed? Talk.
Want to patrol with a buddy and not get raped AND drag everyone that comes to save you into a trap? Talk.
Communication solves itself. Eye of the beholder.

Guys, yclat is actually randy from lifeweb

>>186379216

It's not ask hard as you would think. I see people from the serb on the erp servers all the time. You could probably just catch there on vore or citadel and ask ic.

>>186379163
gross exaggeration, the whole station being deathstung never happened much more than it does now. When it does happen the SPS doesn't matter that much, usually because whoever's doing it is prepared to deal with it, but it sure as hell fucks over other antags.

>>186379302
Sure you CAN communicate. The thing is you don't have to, so almost nobody does. And the SPS gives the exact location of where an officer got stripped/murdered, and if officers respond quickly it's very difficult for the antag to actually get away. I'll give you that you still have to look around, but that's very different from having to piece together what happened to an officer that went dark because you didn't get their exact time of death, where they died, and what they were probably doing. That's the hard part, and used to be a big part of the fun of trying to solve what happened to the other officers. It added suspense, too. Now you don't even have to figure that out and it severely limits an antag's options in terms of how they deal with security, which also happens to mean they interact with security less, and when they do they are at a severe disadvantage most of the time.

looking forward to shitposting with you lads tomorrow. :^)

>>186379216

who? Is it a waifu?

>>186379171
Where would you even move to? A bloodied redshirt being dragged around is an enormous eye sore and if you do it in a place like maintenance in Box it will only take two officers to completely sweep adjacent areas.

It's one of the reasons why I just camp outside external airlocks until some idiot runs by. Nobody expects the deep space succ.

>>186379732
>SPS goes off
>panic and scramble towards location
>just an SPS or backpack on the floor
>have at least some sort of lead to work with
vs
>suddenly realize that there's an officer missing after half an hour
>0 evidence, no idea where to even start
>you get chloralstungwhatever'd and disappear just like the rest

>>186379780

anywhere
and all you need is a locker to hide the body

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>>186363643

>>186363381
>>186363479

How hard would it be to set up a R-UST as a relatively new engineer? I've currently just been experimenting with the SME and TEG, what other knowledge/experience do I need or should I just jump in and try it on a private/test server?

>>186380453
It's just a TEG that runs on compressed matter chips instead of a plasoxy fuel line

>>186379780
False walls are good stuff too

>>186380571
Valk doesn't have dyed hair, and that's not them either, trust me. ;3

Goodnight guys. That was a great three hour shift

hey /ss13/ do you drink alcohol irl? and if so, whats your favourite drink?

>>186372880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ICv32DZSw

>>186380571
Nice try, I haven't gone near hormones or done anything transitiony yet.

Because I'm afraid

>>186380787
Statistically speaking your chances of killing yourself go up much more if you do.

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>>186380723
really depends on purpose
beer is a classic but I've grown to liking white wine for casual drinking
for more hardcore drinking I'll easily down a liter of any 40% other than bitters, favorites being stoli, good rum, cognac and calvados

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>>186380909
Nah, I've never been suicidal. It just goes entirely against my outlook on life.

But anyway, enough blog posting, this thread is for spess.

>Go and establish myself as a weak clown that just acts weird and pokes people's chests with honk.
>Ten minutes later go clown a monkey man, dress it up as me. Put on a xeno suit and drag it through the halls bashing it to death in front of sec.
>Give them the slip!
>I escaped into space without a space suit, the absolute madman.
>Return inside and just hide in a locker.
>Run by detective's office so he can chase me in maintenance.
>He misses like 4 shots in straight hallways with tiny spaces.
>So I throw my pda down he just stops, so I run back and slip on it.
>Oh no you've caught me!
>He drags me back to sec.
>pulls off my xenomorph mask
>"Honk!"
>Ho Lee Shit.
>He reveals I was my own killer.
>Haha it was just a prank bro.
>Now he starts talking about executing me, and I have to talk him out of it. Then he beats me to within an inch of crit, dumps me outside without any of my stuff hobbling all the way to medbay.
>I find clothes there and get medbay working since everyone else abandoned it.
>Consider locking him in a locker without a headset and suit sensors in maintenance as revenge, but that's a bit much.
>instead slip and chloral him for 10u and drag him through the halls honking his chest.
>Return to give medical treatment to his friend.
>He chases me out while I am healing him, gets me with a stun revolver.
>Takes me to sec and tries to blame me for warden's death after I was the only one trying to fix him because he doesn't know what a toxin is or how to operate a chemical dispenser.
>Spends more time making sure I'm cuffed to the bed than dealing with the xeno outbreak.

>>186377286
:( oh well. You know any good good games with comfy designing that aren't ss13 and won't go away?

>>186381383
Don't be discouraged anon, there's plenty of players who love comfy rooms in spess, especially if you provide booze and conversation!

>>186381962
booze is a net negative item except the few gimmick drinks

Is it ok for a MoMMI to make more MoMMI?

>>186382305
Doesn't stop us irl.

>>186382409
an MMI is a being

>>186382409
Only if you're emagged.

>>186382409
MMIs are beings
Posibrains are beings
Don't do it friend

>>186382305
I remember when I was starting out, assuming it would give minor pain resistance .

Tryna make me go to TG I said no no no
- - - The Morena Girl

>>186382439
>>186382674
what if you just make empty mommi bodies and unactivated MMIs, and then leave them in the hallways?

>>186380571
That's not Valk it's total biscuits boyfriend

>>186383169
I see morena on tg though.

>>186383369
Do they
>Static name
>Talk in ooc
>blogpost in the thread
>erp admins

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>>186383253
>Tfw your wife pushes your intestines back inside of you and supports you during cancer
>You call her hitler and tell her to kill herself for not voting for hillary then leave her for a 0% passing tranny with blue hair

I hope the cancer takes him

>>186383238
No such thing as empty mommi shells, you stick the parts directly on the MMI. As for leaving the parts next to inactive posibrains, I dunno. If putting chem dispensers everywhere is allowed, you'd probably get away with it.

>>186383586
yes

>>186383714
I unironcally think his wife is cute and would marry

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What did he mean by this

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How do I use core samples and shit like that to find a large artifact?

>>186384170
my wife...

>>186383253
>>186383714

I thought that was the other fat vidya brit's boyfriend

>>186384170
Felicity > Rfultra

>>186384709
Anyone > RfUltra

t. The surfer girl

>>186385152
surfer would you ever date a goy?

>>186385476
Yes, everyone is Israel is very trendy and handsome

>>186365516
All you really need to start space exploration is some gauze and a toolbox, everything else is just a luxury.

>>186384709 RFultra isn't even in the secret metaclub.

>>186379216
ask them if they would be down for something on ANOTHER SHIFT and get in contact with them via the memeyond client or something.

Do not try to lewd on /vg/, you will get bwoinked and your logs will be found and posted.

*notices a new waifu*
OwO who's this?

>>186386504
A rude dude with a tude

Long time no see spessmen, from before the goonleak actually.

Can someone bring me up to date? Like, what the fuck are sps and why is everyone raging about them?

*notices the best detective of all time who is a character from persona 4 and recently became trialmin*

OWO WHO'S THIS?

>>186387104
stop falseflagging

>>186387073
I already asked this retard look at the fucking thread.

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>Theyre a "Cyborg Main"
>They Default to SEC Module

Any bigger alert to a powergamer?

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>You'll never know what it's like to be so butthurt you got robusted by a borg that you openly declare you'll metagrudge

>>186384306
Read the section on the wiki where it tells you

>>186387362
Fuck Clanker, valid hunting asshole

>>186387362

>>186387373
Case in point

>>186387362
still better than greytiders

>>186387445
>Clanker still isn't banned.

wew

>>186387362
>Tired of seeing people get boned
>Take sec to stop bone
>???
>Get accused of powergay?

>>186387373
I sent logs to admins so he can't weasel out of it later when he does it.

>>186387243
>I asked
You're a cunt

Also, ok I get what sps is.
And it's bullshit. C'mon who's the powertripping faggot who uses it? Back in my days sec were made by basically two types of people: noobs who were still learning the ropes, who never switched on sensors/used Comms/told hos what they were investigating, got brutally murdered by a competent antag and switched to more easy jobs, and hard as fuck veterans who knew how to fucking play the game and act like a fucking officer. Those guys never needed some faggot "plzhalp" autobeeper, and taught noobs how to work like a team

>>186387373
>borg
>robust

kekking my ass off lad

>Borgs will never be nerfed across the board due to powergamers/metaclub crying

feels bad

>>186388416
>40/20 against nerfing plasmaflooding borgs
This is the future you choose

>>186388416
Just make a blinder bro

>>186389036
>we want democracy in our balance changes!
>the majority just want to keep abusing the strongest things available
>nothing will ever get nerfed because today's cuck coders don't have any balls
Cluster would have merged it in a hearbeat, regardless of votes.

>>186389089
Blinder?

>>186389036
man I missed that vote. I don't remember many plasmaflooding borgs all I remember is that if there was ever an emagged mommi, the entire station would turn into living hell because of how crafty the little things are

>>186387362
>Theyre a "Cyborg Main"
>They Default to Standard Module

Post people you metagrudge

>Mugumbe

>>186389319
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Makeshift_weapons#Blinder
You can easily make flash powder at mechanics/chem/rnd
Move autoflashers from the brig to the halls. Whenever you move it'll flash nearby borgs
Flashbangs stun borgs longer than you. Just bang em, get up then flash and smash
Get in a locker and get out your flash, when it gets near you can just hop out and flash it. If it's an ID-locked locker, they can't open it, leaving them to have to space you or laser the locker open
It's not too hard to get 5+ uranium for an emp when or just after you finish gearing up. Either go high-intensity for an insta-kill or multiples for shutting down packs

>>186389513
Standard is legit though.You can setup engines, repair the pipenet, charge and move air canisters, move consoles for both autism forts and setting up tsci and shit. Pulling a medbot and using bruise/ointment lets you heal. You have sechuds and can batonlock a guy long enough to put him in N2O gay baby jail

>>186384170

Which waifu has the cutest steam profile? How do I get them to add me?

>>186389861
I'm afraid of getting metagrudged because I'm dumber than a bag of hammers and I used to be tightly wound

who am I?

>>186389974
>Standard is legit though


it's not, you can do a bunch of things poorly and can't do anything well

also lmao@venting n2o

>>186390565
chase

>>186389323
If I remember correctly, the vote "succeeding" would have given standard MoMMIs actual infinite heat/pressure res and emagged MoMMIs atmos suit res anyway. Nothing would have changed in that regard.

>>186390561

me!

>bartender

>botanist

>observer

>>186391978
At least botanist can grow fun stuff

>diona nymph

When are we going to update the waifu tier list? Someone make a list of the current waifus so that we can get a new tier list going. It has been months!

>>186392168
kys

>>186392168
Put me on the tier list

>>186392168

Where is the old tier list?

>>186392470

Offical Waifu Tier List

-Loving Mother tier-
Reica Carter
Lisa Tovir
Mallory Brooks

-Wears the Pants in the Relationship tier-
Megurine Luka
Rin Fukuimoto
Ailsa Dochartaigh
Alice Conrad

-Risque Workplace Escapades tier-
Julia Brandt
Raphaella Beckett
Naomi Williams
Angelite Entyshak

-High School Sweetheart tier-
Emilia Davidson
Brooke Burns
Hyun Ae

-Want for Their Body tier-
Trinity Prewitt
Ginger Beach
Sue Bowchief

-Best Friends with Benefits tier-
Lyra
Ivy Stocker
Felicity Rivera
Kaylie Morgan

-Drunken Regrets tier-
Avada Colander

-Girl Next Door tier-
Rina Visser
Ashe Mallory
Annie Rodgers

-Bird Next Door tier-
Rail Kinson
Hachi

This was the last one I remember. Name some missing and we can update it.

/ss13g/ essential reading list

>Red Mars
>Dune
>Foundation Series
>The Martian
>Lolita
>I robot

>>186392943
>Reica Carter and Mallory Drills as loving
>Solarious as flirty/erp
>Hyperzine addict skeleton and chainsmoking shitter for body
>Being friends with Felicity

>>186393014
>Missing hitchhiker's
Do you even gargleblast?

>>186392943
>>186393216
It's a meme tier list, none of the options make sense

>>186393240
>mfw she gargle my blast

>>186393240
>meme book
disregarded

>>186392943
There was an aunt category

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>the guy that destroyed clear antag DNA evidence was a nonantag

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I fought the Box, and I won!
I fought the Box, and I won.

>>186392943
at least half of those are men

>>186393716
>Implying not every single one is a man

How about servers? Are bay12ers still rp nazis?

>>186393216
Are the other waifus good for erp?

>>186393716
almost all*

>>186393557
What antag evidence?

>>186393951
some guy turned a greytide box into cardboard

>>186394020
it's just a box
but for real though IC issue etc

>>186394552
It was an IC shitter

>>186379216
PDA notes lad. :^)

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>>186393557
>tfw getting ur cuckvalidz by simply pretending to not know what antag items look like
There is nothing better than roleplaying and rustling powergaming validhunter's jimmies by doing it. Next, I'm going to play a non-engineer role and pretend I don't know how to set up any of the engines when there's no engineers around, and not know how to work the Cloner or a defib or pills if I'm not an MD.
And the best part, I'm not going to tell anyone who killed me if I die and get cloned.

>>186392168
Give me a last of 20 current waifus and I'll make the tier list like >>186392943

>>186395668
Sorry what? I was renovating my chapel and solving a crime case, how does that look anything like a "powergaming validhunter"?
Admit it, you're just an annoyance.

>>186395705
List*

>>186395879
>ur just aan annoyance
That's the point. Also,
>playing chaplain
>doing sec jobs
Fuck off, stop taking the spot up if you're not going to do chaplain things.

>>186395972
There was no security, but I bet you'd be willingly oblivious to that too.

>>186396063
I would. Just means that there's nothing to be afraid of and that it'll be a normal, easy shift to my characters.
I'm sorry, does me playing a normal, non-omniscient, non-psychotic human being trigger you or something?

>>186396195
Go play bay if you want to roleplay a retard.

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>>186396278
Nah, Bay's for faggots with sticks up their asses. I quite like doing heavy roleplay here, it's funny watching people like you sperg because your no-RP validzfest is interrupted with /mes and sentences longer than three syllables.

>>186396460
I don't think you know the difference between no RP and light RP.
You're literally roleplaying as a retard. It is canon that all nanotrasen personnel is trained in handling threats to the station.
If you go on acting like this you're more likely to gain a rule 7 ban than me.

>>186396739
>it is canon
Nope. The lore is made up and the canon doesn't matter, wiki says so quite explicitly. I choose what I want to be canon for myself, and it is. And it's canon to me that NanoTrasen employees are not trained to handle departments or threats unrelated to their departments.
Also, still wrong. The admins have always been on the side of heavier roleplay than lighter roleplay, and with Pain in charge, I will always be here while you will inevitably screw up badly enough in your lust for muh validz that you fuck with the wrong person and net a perma. :^)
Get fucked kiddo

>>186396981
>oh i'm sorry admins my character didn't know that that button would release the singularity! I promise it won't happen again!

>>186397119
Why would I be playing with the singularity if I didn't know what it did? That's retarded, and this shows just how retarded you must be to believe that. My non-engineer characters have no business being near the singularity, ergo, I will not be touching anything related to the singularity if I'm playing as them. Simple as that.

>>186397242
So you're literally just being retarded to annoy everyone you play with?
That's a rule 0.

>>186397360
>that's a rule 0
Only if you can prove the intent to be a dick, and I don't do it to be a dick. The salty tears of validhunters and metagamers are just a side effect I enjoy; I play like this because I enjoy it and because it makes the game and the rounds better when things don't go silky smooth with everyone doing everything they can to turn the antagonist's sprite horizontal. If more people played like I did willingly, this server would be in a far better state.

>>186392943
>>186395705
Needs to add:
Kiyi-something
Fuura Kafuka
Valkyrie Skies
Raelyn F. ultra
Kiri Singh
Vicky Forte
Grey Area
Eloise Chapelle
Kaylie Hunter

Any more?

>>186395705
Somebody respond to this

>>186397521
Do you seriously think it's more fun to give the antag more time to explode the station? You're basically helping them out.
Trying to disable a threat to the station isn't validhunting you silly goose, it's called playing the gamemode.

>>186395705
M-me, please. I want validation and to be on a meme list, I want to see my character become part of something lasting instead of a forgettable face in the crowd that nobody has any meaningful interaction with.

>>186397650
I like Brooke Burns

>>186397650
you forgot me

>>186397971
Brooke is on the previous list to add those in.
>>186397997
Then post your static and and a few others so nobody knows it's you.

>>186397836
If you can't see why it's a good thing for the round to not go perfectly for the station, then I honestly see no point in talking to you about this further. This game is only good when things do not go perfectly. Having the entire station dedicated to the cause of killing the thing that is supposed to make the round interesting is a great way to make the round boring as shit. If you can't understand that, then you honestly just need to go play on Hippie or something. I don't see why you're playing on a Lite RP minimum server and trying to play it like a No-RP deathmatch.

>>186398080
I understand from your gimmick that you just want make the game horrible to play. You didn't need to repeat yourself.

>>186398181
>horrible to play
Alright, I'm just gonna say it again; Go back to Hippie. /vg/ is based on things not going perfectly and people doing something other than fighting the antag, not ultra validhunting and 30 minute rounds.
Why do you insist on ruining this server with your cancerous playstyle? There's servers dedicated to exactly what you want.
>inb4 smartass takes this entire post and replaces everything relevant with things related to my argument telling me to go "Back" to bay

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>>186397650
>no jean
>no athena
>no maya
>no little doris
>no surfer girl
>no anne
>no luna
>no elizabeth

>>186398489
Post their full names and I'll add er to the list

>>186398489
Good catch, though I forgot about Jean, because she's technically an old waifu.

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>>186397650
>>186398489
>tfw everyone's posted all the current why-foos alongside their names so I can't do the same thing with my character
It's NOT FAIR

>>186399001
>caring this much about what people think about you or your character in a 10 year old atmospheric simulator
Just post your static.

>>186398557
athena sloan
jean blancy
maya browning
surfer girl
anne hiro
elizabeth hawkins
little doris
luna welty

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>>186398359
can't go back to where I never came from my dude.
I like RP, but you're not making friends with your muh-realism gimmick.
The antags were designed to be defeated. They stand on their own, you don't have to be their lil buttlicking buddy and help them out as a nonantag.
I can't believe I have to explain this

>>186397650
>>186399143
Top 3 waifus from this list?

>>186399246
>The antags
Were designed to make the round more interesting. Rushing to kill them makes the round less interesting and leads to 30 minute rounds where the antag is killed and the shuttle is called so people can reroll for antag, leaving everyone who wants to do anything else firmly SOL.
Also,
>go back to where you came from
Even if you aren't from there, you should go live there. /vg/ is not for powergaming validhunting.

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>>186399143
i just realized
>anne hiro
>an hero

>>186399124
Yeah but people already know I'm a waifushitter, I don't want to end up getting shit on for a week for self-shilling.

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>>186399421
Stop calling me things I'm not.
It's up to the antagonist to make the round interesting, if they're shit, they'll quickly be caught and the round will be over.
This is why people complain about unrobust antags rather than about the person that killed the unrobust antag.
You need mental help.

>>186399391
no idea, jean, athena, elizabeth and anne seem to show up more than the others so probably them

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>>186399547
Uhm...
Who cares?
>online reputation

daily reminder that posting anime pics with a post reduces your chances of being taken seriously

shitpost responsibly

>>186399663
>things I'm not
But you are a powergaming validhunter, or else you wouldn't be defending powergaming and validhunting, and you might actually understand WHY it's important for the station to not do everything perfectly.
Explain to me why it is that -your- vision of /vg/ is the "right" one, when every round I've ever seen that has been good, has been good because people screwed up and threw spanners into the works, because things didn't go perfectly? Meanwhile, every round where everything went perfectly has been an utter fucking snoozefest that ended in everyone sitting on their asses for 15 minutes while the shuttle came?

>>186399786
i do

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>>186399919
>catching bad guys is bad
are you in antifa?

>>186399919
>>186399663
can you two get a fucking room

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Who is the Katawa Shoujo of ss13?

>>186400093
>purposefully misconstruing the argument
>bringing unrelated real world political shit into this
You're an retard.
>>186400114
I'll stop responding when he stops being a faggot.

>>186400093
I don;t get it

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>box malf
>malf loses
>metaclub malf
>malf wins

>>186400290
>meta malf
>lose half the crew because they forget the AI is in space and not by the upload

>>186400290
>meta malf
>entire armory stolen by greyshits
no shit we lost

>>186400178
No dude your point is just completely retarded by concept. You want to RP as a retard so that antags won't get caught because that'll make the game more fun.
Having 7 people alive and 20 ghosts sure sounds like a shitton of "fun" to me!

>>186400539
I stopped the guy that stole the armory and put the armory locker in the locker room, but the AI cooked us both a few minutes later

Guide on how to use the railgun ?

>>186400635
You realized you didn't know how to shoot it as soon as you tried to fire at the malf AI didn't you?

[08:47:11]ADMIN: PM: Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins)->APaRist/(Abel Baxter): Hey
[08:47:17]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): more like
[08:47:21]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): hey
[08:47:26]ADMIN: PM: Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins)->APaRist/(Abel Baxter): Why did you raid armory?
[08:47:33]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): To sell that shit
[08:47:51]ADMIN: PM: Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins)->APaRist/(Abel Baxter): What happened to all of that stuff?
[08:48:03]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): detective caught me and now it's rotting in a locker in sec
[08:48:09]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): we're all dying coz AI
[08:48:27]ADMIN: PM: Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins)->APaRist/(Abel Baxter): Yeah you inconvenienced the whole crew by raiding armory.
[08:48:44]ADMIN: PM: Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins)->APaRist/(Abel Baxter): While on its own it isn't an OOC issue but in this case it is, you are going to get a warning for it.
[08:48:56]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): wait so what makes this case special?
[08:49:02]ADMIN: PM: Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins)->APaRist/(Abel Baxter): AI is malf
[08:49:17]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): yeah but A) I didn't know it and B) if anything the weapons are more accessible now
[08:49:39]ADMIN: PM: Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins)->APaRist/(Abel Baxter): Being a greytiding shitter rarely ends well so it isn't really relevant if you knew about it or not.
[08:50:06]ADMIN: PM: APaRist/(Abel Baxter)->Mustardtiger/(Philadelphia Collins): yeah, but it's not like the crew could have gotten those weapons anyway

really makes me fucking ponder, those weapons weren't goddam accessible at all

>>186400782
Thats right. I spent the entire round trying to build it and when i finally got it ready and had the occasion to use it i failed miserably.
How the fuck do you use it ?

>>186400810
admins just want their banvalids

>>186401136
they should have collected them for real

>>186400871

you need tons of power in the grid or else it's worthless

>>186397650
>tfw will never be the assistant for Miss Eloise Chapelle

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>>186400810
I raided the armory just for fun.
God admins don't understand this is what my character would do.

Bunch of no-rp shitlickers that only care about Malf valids and the ability for the crew to easily secure them.

>>186401394
I see. So you have to charge it near the engine before energy gets into SMES ?

Reminder that Sue's last permaban was for stealing the armoury to go raid the comms sat while a wizard was fucking up the station

>>186401858
at least they were using the guns
raiding the armory to sell it is shit tier, especially when they dont even get a note for it

>>186397650
>no dee fibb

>>186401662
capacitor value and power available to succ make railgun good

best capacitor and 1gw is a rod

I'm Italian, should I play chef and only chef?

or HoP Mafia boss

>>186404968
only if you type in an accent. And say things about spicy meatballs.

>>186405195
That's-a mag-niphik-o

Need a Scottish rival tho, so I can dish out some culinary violence

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>>186397650
>>186399143
>not on the list
>never on the list
feels good

>>186404968
play sec and join the italian metaclub

>>186406367
you mean the meatclub

>>186406481
wouldn't mind taking their meat desu

>>186406481
it's quite a sausage party, yes

>>186406101
dumb kumiko poster

>>186404221
Thanks.

>tfw play MoMMI
>Tfw always subtly sabotage the station

>>186406996
Were you the MoMMI that was repairing the AI satellite during that malf round

I wanted to break you so badly

Science needs some tator specific items.