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>Fire Emblem Heroes FAQ and links
http://pastebin.com/sCR1qRtB

>Links and Resources
http://pastebin.com/DSnHZ3EC

>Fire Emblem Echoes Links
http://pastebin.com/qwVAhNkb

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No thots allowed past this point.
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Midori is my wife!
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>another fatescuck op
when will you retards fuck off already?
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>>184294127
thanks gramps
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Elise is cute
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NINO
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Izana!
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>>184294142
I hope you have a wonderful day, anon
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I WANT TO SNIFF ELISE'S UNDERAGE BUMHOLE
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>>184294189
Nino!
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Nino!
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>>184294254
nobody cares
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>>184294142
He's right, fuck off Elise fags, make way for superior Fates girl
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Post em /feg/
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Will discussion about Advance Wars halt shitposting?
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>>184294127
>>184294189
>>184294267
>>184294273
>>184294279
Off to a good start
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>>184294337
no fuck off she is trash as well, blow your fucking brains out
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>>184294254
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>>184294189
>>184294279
THEY'RE MULTIPLYING
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Finally got a 4* Rein, but he's -atk. Do I need to bother using him for now and eventually merging into a better one, or should I just give up on him?
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Part 1:

After looking over every character that can be pulled at each color exclusively at 4*, I've determined that pulling for Red for SI purposes gets a little worse, blue mostly benefits, green gets a little better, and colorless is mixed (but still not worth it)

Red:
The good: Roy (TA3), Athena (Moonbow and Sword EXP 3, Wo Dao+ at 5*), Tharja (Rauorblade, Darting Blow 3, and Vengeance), Eirika (Hone Speed 3), and Cain (Wings of Mercy 3, Threaten Attack 2, Brave Sword+ at 5*)
The bad: Marth (Pivot and Escape Route 2 are barely passable for SI), Corrin (Dragon Fang is less than ideal as far as specials go), Ogma (Brave Sword+ fodder at 5*, nothing else), Seliph (+5 HP for healers), Caeda (Fortify Fliers at 4*)
The ugly: Chrom (completely useless for SI), Lilina (completely worthless for SI)

5/12 units are good. However, Hinata and Selena are going to be harder to pull now.


Blue
Almost all upside. Blue's exclusive 4* units are pretty much fantastic for SI.

The good: Catria (Luna), Abel (Swordbreaker 3), Mathilda (Hone Attack 3, Cancel Affinity 2 is decent), Reinhardt (Vantage 3, unit worth upgrading to 5*), Peri (Threaten Def 3), Roderick (Rally Def/Res at 4*, Drive Def 1, and Drag Back at 4*, exclusive user of Firesweep L+ for fodder), Effie (Wary Fighter 3, Death Blow 2), Nowi (Threaten Res 3, Lightning Breath fodder)
OK (none of these are even bad): Cordelia (Unit worth upgrading, 5* Brave Lance+ Fodder), Mae (Draw Back, Desperation 2, Blue Tome EXP 3 ain't bad for training up Odins), Lukas (exlusive user of Fortress Def), Clair (exclusive user of Hit and Run)
The ugly: N/A

8/12 of these are good and only 4 are just "ok". Blue is great, though Odin, Shanna, Florina, and and Subaki chances are unfortunately diluted.
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>>184294254
CHICKEN
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>>184294350
No anon, and /fehg/ will never be a thing
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>>184294350
>tfw not autistic enough to like Advance Wars
I like FE because of how attached I get to my random mooks, not because of it being a strategy game. Gameplay simply serves to reinforce my love.
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Realistically speaking, if a cav or flier archer had Cordelia-tier stat spreads, how broken would they be?
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>>184294442
give thoron and spur atk 2 to a better blue mage
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>>184294420
She blows me away, all right!
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>>184294507
How the hell is Caeda bad?
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>>184294442
It's not worth. You'll pull another 4* Rein most likely after they up 4* rates.

Especially if you're pulling for Corrin.
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Part 2

Green
The good: Fae (Renewal 3), Boey (Ignis and Earth Boost 3), Camilla (Draconic Aura and Savage Blow 3), Raven (Threaten Def 3), Hawkeye (Death Blow 2, Threaten Attack 3)
The bad: Sheena (Fortify Armor, nothing else), Titania (Armored Blow 3, Reciprocal Aid), Soren (Fortify Res 3 is the worst Fortify since we have a seal for it)
The ugly: Merric (totally worthless for SI)

5/9 units from the 4* exclusive pool are good (also take note on how few we actually get, fuck IS for ignoring greens). We will miss pulling Barst for Reposition fodder as often, and MAYBE Nino and Arthur but overall this is actually not bad for greens. Putting more Threaten X fodder into the pool works for me.

Colorless
The good: Leon (Ignis, Speed +3, exclusive user of Slaying Bow), Rebecca (Darting Blow 3, Ardent Sacrifice), KLEIN (The only way to get Death Blow 3 currently, Glacies, Quick Riposte 2, Brave Bow fodder Jesus), Kagero (Reprisal, Daggerbreaker, exclusive user of Poison Dagger, best dagger user and arguably worth promoting), Priscilla (top tier healer)
The bad: Jakob (Only Renewal 2 at 4*, nothing else), Lucius (Pain staff, Miracle for memes), Jeorge (worthless for SI but arguably worth promoting)
The ugly: Lachesis (BLEH), Maria (blech), Sakura (blurgh),

5/11 are good, Klein might be tempting but you're still in a sea of colorless starring an additional THREE more worthless healers. It would still take a miracle for me to pull Colorless moving forward.
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Reposting from last thread

http://www.strawpoll.me/13572747
http://www.strawpoll.me/13572747
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Were you ALPHA enough to ROLL for DELTHEA??? I know I was. Now I have the best 40% bonus unit for the next TT that I could get
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>>184294568
>can get +6/+6 atk/spd from one buff
>suddenly obliterating everything with brave weapon
I'd say fairly balanced. I'd roll if that happened.
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>>184294430
NIN O!
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So since emus are broken and rerolls take forever, I should wait until a fix comes out before trying to get into this game, right?
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>>184294507
The best part of rolling 4* reds is not having to use feathers for any 4* Hinata you get. 2k feathers doesn't sound like a lot, but it adds up.
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>>184294620
There is a finite limit on how much fortify fliers you want and it's not very high. If you're not building toward that team composition either she's pretty shitty SI fodder.
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>>184294651
AFAIK, the 4* rate change will apply only for later banners, after and including Hero Fest. I already have Ninian, so no reason to roll for blues this time.
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>>184294189
FASTER
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oniichan buy orbs!
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what did she mean by this?
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>>184294568
They would have paper thin defenses, most DC tanks would kill them if they don't have desperation on.
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Steal his tome!
Steal his skills!
Cum inside him!
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>>184294778
It's a tradeoff between a reduced chance of rolling Hinata at all and 2k feathers for promotion. Personally I'd choose the latter.
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Can YOU draw your waifu in only MSPaint, /feg/? Don't let those Ninoposters be the only ones who can get in on the fun!
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>>184294867
Gooey the Femui!
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>>184294867
>tfw still no +Speed -HP Odin to keep and 5*
ISIS GIVE ME IV REROLL NOOOOOW
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>>184294848
Build for Elise?
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Can you do alright without ever rolling green aside from picking up Nino? Green is a real shitheap.
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>>184294507
Lilina is absolutely crucial if you want to inherit Raudrowl+ because she's the only non-5* exclusive red mage to carry the Fire/Elfire tomes. Super niche, but worth having at least one for that purpose.

>Est not in Ugly
Your bias is showing, anon
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>>184295042
>+spd

nigga odin has plenty of speed

+atk is what you want, he needs it
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>>184295094
I would give away all my Shannas for Barst right now.
Swap is fucking shit on anything with more than 1 mov.
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>>184294867
B-but thats not Leo!
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>>184295042
>585/585
good lord, man
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>>184295157
Read again. Est isn't exclusive to 4*.
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>>184295042
>all these good IV fodder
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>>184295094
If you already have Hector and as you said Nino, yes.
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>>184295284
She'll still show up in the pool, kinda dumb to focus on 4* exclusives when the rates swap just make it more likely that you'll roll a 4* rarity, not 4* exclusive.
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sorry to spam a bit but last question,
how should I distribute all the goads/wards with the 4? i was told that "attck buffs go on defensive cav and defence buffs go on attck cav" but who would be who? I feel as though theyre all sorta.. "attack cav"
should mages get defence buffs and melee get attack ones?
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>even
Promote Anna

>odd
Promote Odin to feed S!Corrin
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>want Minerva more than anybody else in the series
>already have Hector and Nino
>green is literally the worst color to roll in the entire game besides maybe colorless

I hate everything.
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>>184295557
Green really is a shitheap. I was lucky enough to get a decent Fae from there.
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>there are no new heroes at all on any banner

for what purpose
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>+Spd/-Def Nino
Is she good /feg/?
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>>184295497
If it has a tome, it's an attack cav. If it isn't Eliwood, it's a defense cav.
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>>184294343
I should probably post the template
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>>184295497
Xander is a defensive unit.
Reinhardt is an offensive unit.

Learn why this is the case so you don't need to ask something so relatively obvious.
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>Ike soon
>Celica soon
I'm fucking ready.
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>>184295632
Good to put in the blender! Make a Nino smoothie!
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>>184295632
No, send her back home.
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>>184295557
wait for the mythical life and death banner
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>>184295557
>>184295615
So, it's red>blue>green>>>>shit>>>>colorless
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>>184294981
900 hours in MS paint
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>>184295557
>have Minerva, Julia, and Nino
After trying to roll Sonya I never want to roll green ever again.
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>>184295632
Literally best IV
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So does anyone even care about new alts anymore? We've already seen the holy grail, so anything that isn't a swimsuit is gonna look like shit by comparison.
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>>184295638
ah noted

>>184295695
sorry still kinda newish
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>>184295632
YES.
STRONG NINO
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>>184295632
Fuck you and your perfect IV
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>>184295734
>Hana, Jaffar, Minerva
Huh, they can even cover 3 different colors with this. Would probably still not roll on because I only ever roll on banners with new units.
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>>184295831
At this point, I'll be happy with anything that isn't Fateswakaning regardless of artwork or stats.
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>>184295831
Sexy witch alts
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>>184295708
My dick is hard
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>>184294848
I'm so jealous in so many levels
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>>184295842
Didn't mean it as an insult, no need to apologize. I genuinely mean that you should look up those units, their unique 5* weapons and stat spreads, and learn from those what makes one a prime offensive unit and the other a prime defensive one. As far as horse teams go, they're literally the primary examples of those two roles.
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>>184295831
What? All the summer meme units are trash. Even the least shit, Femui, is decent at best. Nothing has topped Bride Cordelia yet.
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>>184294981
>tfw so bad at drawing it would just seem like a shitpost
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>>184295557
>>184295798
>have -SPD +RES Minerva
>but also +RES -DEF Hector, +ATK -RES Sonya, +SPD -DEF Nino, and +SPD -RES Julia

I guess green's my best color and I should stop rolling in it forever. But how else will I get my Barsts and more Ninos for Draw Back?
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>>184295632
She's great
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>mfw i already deployes my +1 Desesperation Fury Bladememe+ +spd -def 20 ORBS Femui
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>>184296005
>extremely easy units to get
>jealous
how
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>>184295157
why the fuck does raudrowl need elfire

it's not like raudrblade or raudrraven needs flux and ruin
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FREE ORBS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>184295171
Honestly, Blarblade is so busted he doesn't really need the attack. Base 35 Speed puts in at a decent speed tier and let's him double most shit with Darting.

He's not gonna be one-shorting anything, but the Fortify Res Seal made his base Attack actually super workable.
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>>184295967
Oh boy, a witch? Literally who fucking cares? It is impossible to make anything that looks better than that. Face it, whoever your waifu is she's gonna look like shit by comparison. It is impossible to top.
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>>184296140
forgot your
F2P btw
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>>184296208
When? And I think you're using "reeeeeee" wrong
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>>184296140
Here's your (You)
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>>184294981
Only the dead can know peace from this evil!
Uwee hee hee!
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>>184296270
people have these things called opinions, anon

they might like a costume even if that costume isnt bearing dragon pussy for all the world to see
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>>184294981
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>you'll never fuck your childhood friend.
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>>184296384
I like lookses of youses
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>>184296448
Nice
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>>184296448
>can't enjoy using my Summer Corrin because she won't stop yelling SO HOT at me

This is like Effie all over again.
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>>184296008
hmm I guess to me the only real "defensive" unit would be armours. I admit that probably playing other FE games I had the notion that cav were pretty offensive (but now seeing the "able to counter any distance" ability on both has kinda helped retool my mind set)

im just not looking forward to grinding 40k goddamn feathers though.. jesus
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>>184296470
That's me and my wife!
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>>184296384
Legion is cute! CUTE!
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>>184296448
>Whew! So HOT!

I had to mute it.
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>>184294189
Nino!
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>>184294981
rate
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>>184296448
>Summer Femui and Klein on the same
>''Wew so hot!'' and ''Fun'' makes me want to kms
>But then there's Klein, soft, beatifull voice
I'm so conflicted.
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>>184296448
I want to have buttfun with Corrin
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>>184296010
Nothing likely ever will top bridelia, she was a total outlier. But as far as limited units go, Femui is well above average and completely worth rolling for.

One of the biggest weaknesses of flier teams is their lack of ranged and magic damage. Previously, spring camilla was literally their only option, and her being green meant that unfortunately made most of the rest of the green flier cast (who are generally very good) redundant. A blue mage flier is a big deal, and her stat spread is strictly better than spring camilla for virtually anything.

Now they just need to give fliers literally any red that isn't fucking terrible and we'll be in business.
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>>184296720
Katarina!/10
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>>184296591
Feathers will come a lot faster than you think, especially with the Tempest Trials and Gauntlet both coming up soon.

But yeah, Heroes is a bit of an oddball as far as characters go; the big key in the current meta is being able to easily one-round most enemies if you're an offensive unit, or to easily survive a hit and counterattack if you're a defensive one.
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>>184295967
Who should get the Witch alt?
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>>184296764
Isn't Spring Camilla in a slightly better spot though? I'm not gonna lie, her spread is definitely worse, but fliers are so bloated with blue options and it's only gonna get worse with Valter.
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>>184296005
Believe in your heart and the loli mages will come to you too anon. Or you could give in and buy orbs like I did.
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>>184296940
Kill yourself shitposter.
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>>184296940
Ursula and Cecilia
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>>184296764
>her stat spread is strictly better than spring camilla for virtually anything
Not necessarily. Spring Camilla is more a unit that either one-shots things after buffs or can counter bow users, which are a huge threat to fliers. Corrin can't really do that as well.
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>>184296558
>not wanting to use a character because of quotes
If I got used to Mae perfectly fine despite her nervous chuckle, you can get over that too
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>>184294981
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After several unsuccessful attempts at Chain Challenge 11-12, my first and only success was a deathless run.
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>>184297221
Is that clive?
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>>184296986
I have a -atk Spring Camilla and with a bladetome flier team it's hilarious how strong she is. My team is just her killing things and 3 buffsluts that are attached to her. I'm going to use her and Femui now.
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Where i can browse/download all cipher art to date ?
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>>184297221
Nice Neph.
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>>184296986
You can afford to run multiple blues in a team because there's so few greens around to threaten/wall them. You can't really afford to run green heavy teams that aren't hector because there's too many reds. But at the same time, most of the best fliers are green.
Before you would run like BCamilla, Cordelia, another blue, token red.
Now you just replace the second blue with new Corrin and you have a whole roster of strong offensive and defensive greens to flexibly pick based on what your team needs.
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>>184296986
2 blue 2 green is also a pretty viable option for a team, especially since there are few greens in in the arena and in general.
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Best special on a -res chicken?
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>>184294981
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>>184297357
Aegis
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>People rolling for Shitmui when Olwen and Ursula are far better for blade memes
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Where were you when a top 10 Smash 4 player revealed himself to be a whale? https://twitter.com/komorikiri_SSCF/status/891512309444517889
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>>184297269
Anon, could you please tell me what C skills you have on rein and cecilia?
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>Q-Quit staring at my soles!
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>>184297221
Neph always seemed like a flyover country farmgirl than a y'all Texas southerner type to me. Dunno if that's just me or not.
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>roll for xander
>get elise
Fuck off i just want my nippleless fuccboi
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>>184296185
Same reason Blarowl+ needs Thunder and Elthunder, and Gronnowl+ needs Wind and Elwind. Except those two are far more common on top of being obtainable from rotation heroes/GHB/3* pulls, Raudrowl is the only one fucked
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>>184296384
Legion would be a great Sesame Street character.
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>>184297442
Goad on Rein, Hone on Cecilia. Cecilia is using her default -raven tome.
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>>184297482
Yeah, that's pretty much right. She's not obnoxious enough to be a Texas type.
Y'all is a pretty common word in all of flyover country though
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>>184297543
Ah thank you. And is this also your arena defense team?
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+ATK or +SPD for emerald axe distant counter Camilla?
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>>184296384
reminded me of pic related
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Sometimes I'm thankful that I get +HP Julia
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>>184297494
Nice crop faggot
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>>184297357
I still gave mine Iceberg since she also has Fury
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>>184297642
It was but I haven't gotten a win this season so I switched it out.
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>>184297115
Corrin has better offensive stats, so she's a better blade tome carrier, and blade tome + buffs is the only way either of them will ever OHKO things thanks to their combined flier/ranged BSTs.

Camilla does have the gimmick that her abnormally high def for a mage allows her to run TARaven and counter archers despite being a flier, which is cool and valuable. Both of the mage fliers have a niche and a place on a flier team, and it's valuable to have both if possible as options.
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>>184297436
>whaling Catria
A+ fucking taste
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>>184297103
>Witch alts
>Ursula, Cecilia, Titania, Camilla
ISIS doesn't want tainted mommyfag money
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>>184297508
"more common" isn't half of it, every single green mage has elwind by default and every single blue mage has elthunder

except for 1* cecilia
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>>184294981
I tried
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Just got a + Speed -HP Summer corrin

Should i go bladetome, raven or her own tome?
Raven would murder archer and red, blade would murder everything with buff, while her own tome would boost others around a bit

I had a reind for a long while so i never actually had to build another mage, and need some advice
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>>184297341
Couldn't you make a similar argument on the other end? The only thing blue fliers don't have is someone like Michalis, they have the offensive powerhouses and well balanced spreads already taken.
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>>184296130
*GLASS BREAKS*
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When are we getting variety banners for old FE?
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What are the best IVs for a Raven/TA Cecilia in cavteam?
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>>184297826
I can't imagine Titania getting an alt, much less a sexy one. Plus wouldn't much of her fanbase turn on her if they sexualized her even a little?
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>>184297878
I love you.
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>>184297296
Em HELP
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>>184297965
next summer faggot
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>>184294981
fuck it
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>>184297826
>Witch Titania
We'll get Secretary Titania instead.
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Which FEGirl has the smelliest feets?
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>>184297189
Mae sounds great, though.
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>>184298069
Nice Nina!
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>>184297907
Raven isn't worth it, blade if you have buffers/flier team, her tome if want an easy-to-build, more general-purpose discount Doot.
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Is it worth it to try and get a summer HomoMarx for infantry pulse?

I already got the units I wanted from it except him. Is the skill worth it for fodder?
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>>184298069
theres no way that's mspaint you CHEATER

>>184298078
corrin they're very dirty she never wears shoes
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>>184297929
Blues basically have Cordelia, the short-haired anal slut Cordelia lite, and that's about it. Most blue fliers have awkward middle-of-the-road stat spreads that leave them lacking offensively and defensively, like Catria. Subasa does serve as a perfectly tenable blue wall/defensive unit, but green generally has better and more versatile options for anything that isn't Cordelia's role. Hell, even then, Cherche with the proper (though expensive) SI is comparable to Cordelia.

The point is that since fliers already ran two blues just because of the meta, they can afford to run one of those blues as a mage without issue. Running BCamilla means giving up their only green slot, which sucked when you HAD to run BCamilla because she was the only magic option
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>>184297657
atk or res
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>>184297873
Then blame dark magic, out of the 10 red tome users in the game right now 6 are dark mages, out of the rest 3/4 are 5* exclusive
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>>184298178
For me, it's the opposite, I like SCorrin's voice (despite her lines being cringy), but Mae's lines were grating for a while until I got used to them.
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>>184297752
If you had celica, would you replace sanaki?
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>>184297997
People are all talk. Fanservice sells. And besides, sexy =/= naked. I'm sure it can be done tastefully, it'll depend on how the art is done

>>184298076
>Any Titania alts
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>>184297778
Actually Camilla has higher attack by 4 points, which can be a pretty big deal for blade tomes, though yeah I'd agree that generally Corrin would be better with it. But either way that's why I was saying that Camilla's high defense means she can counter archers, which is still very valuable on a flier team.

Too bad we'll never get a green equivalent of Dire Thunder.
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So at this rate it looks like we'll just be getting more and more limited alt banners. Do you guys actually prefer this to new characters? Personally I'd rather have more of the cast added to the game than just costumes but every limited banner has seemingly been way more popular and banners like New Mystery and even Echoes have gotten a lot of shit for not being the right games.
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>fully planned to spend every orb I own on an Ike in Hero Fest since I didn't get one when his banner first launched
>jump into Arena real quick

>get three matches in a row against Ikes
>easily one-shot every single Ike I run into
>he's easily the least threatening unit of each of those teams
>my Xander tanks him like nobody's business

Do I really want Ike after all? I was desperate for the guy months ago but has the game just passed him by already? Is he basically worthless now that Xander can easily fill his role?
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>>184298502
>. Do you guys actually prefer this to new characters?
Fuck no. But I have to roll corrin because I want to make a flier team one day.
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>>184297470
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>>184298537
You've asked this for two days
If you don't want him don't roll we don't care
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>>184297826
Is that why they made an Elise alt a swimsuit one? IS are catfags.
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>>184298502
The second they switch from limited banners to actual ones is the second that the summoning pool becomes even more inflated. If they don't plan to create separate summoning pools any time soon, that's a nightmare.
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>>184298537
I mean it's nice to have characters you like, but with xander, ike isn't really needed.
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Should I promote a +spd Cordelia? I have a neutral one which puts in good work too but I don't really have a good flier team yet.

>>184298376
Most likely not. The little empress has never disappointed me even with her frumpy speed. I might run the two together though.
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>>184298502
I'd prefer if they ran them concurrently with actual new characters, like how Echoes got a banner shoved in the middle of the first summer content.
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>>184298537
Roll for Heavy Blade for better units like Firesweep L Cordy
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>>184298635
That's because every time I convince myself that I want to roll for him after all, something like this happens. I didn't think he'd be so damn easy to deal with since I haven't seen him in a while and he used to cause my Nino-based team trouble way back when.
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>>184298273
The middle of the road spreads are only really flawed because there aren't any solid lances for those units. Minerva gets Hauteclere, many of the lance fliers would love a Slaying Lance. Subaki I wouldn't really compare to Michalis because even though he has the defense, his attack stat is ass.
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>>184298069
Stop liking a gross, filthy, perverted fujo.
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Reminder that the best all-purpose team is Reinhardt, Julia, Olivia, and Bridelia.
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>>184298745
>like how Echoes got a banner shoved in the middle of the first summer content.
It didn't get shoved in the middle of it, it got added the same time it would have had the summer banner been a regular two week one. Same with this current Nohrian Summer one, two weeks into August we'll get a proper new character banner that only lasts two weeks.
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Uh oh
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>>184298537
>>184298537
Reds are just really easy to delete in Arena because the quality of Blues we get is extremely high. He's good when controlled by the player and performs excellently in PVE content like Tempest Trials and Chain Challenge due to his good self-sustain.
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>>184298740
Interesting. I also want to use her in my team but mine is +res -spd. Do you just run her classic TA/swordbreaker build?
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>>184298830
Subaki has speed to though. He's inarguably better at thanking red swords and tomes and arguably better at tanking lances.
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>>184298537
I still want Ike, but I hate Xander. But I both find them non-threatening in the AI's hands, Catria is too strong.
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>>184298871
Late for the party/8 b8, m8
Here's your (You) for the effort though
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>>184298871
>caring about tier lists
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WHY IS THERE NEVER A HECTOR BANNER
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So most certainly September will have hoshidan summer followed by CYL at the end of it right ?

They wouldn't give hoshido the shaft like that
and japanese summer ends in late sep
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I love Felicia! I just love her SO MUCH! I want to walk in on Felicia, my meido, cleaning a tub! She would take her shoes and socks off first, so I would get to see her lewd bare feet! I want to hug my meido!
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>>184298952
Michalis is basically built to bomb people on the counter with Quick Riposte. Subaki does have his speed but he doesn't perform the bombing as well.
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>>184298871
>Summer Elise above Nino

Why? wouldn't Nino being faster make her better?
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>>184297981
Anyone?
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>>184298883
>>184298957
Realistically, I'd love to be able to roll greens more consistently, especially on defense, but the pool for them is just so shitty right now that it's hard to validate it. Nino's not very effective given the AI doesn't know how to run bladetomes, and my only other 5* is a -Def Hector.

Actually, now that I think about it, should I be rolling for Julia on this Hero Fest instead?
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>>184299037
Hoshido lost.

Get over it.
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>>184298871
>people still sucking off the Reddit tier list
I thought this game was about using your favorites + Reinhardt?
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>>184299089
The position dosen't make ''x'' character better than ''x'' character in the same tier.
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I managed to get three 5* Reinhardts, one is +atk. Should I merge them or make a triple Reinhardt arena defense team?
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>>184298768
>Firesweep Lance without L&D
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>>184299120
Get julia
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>>184298919
I have a +atk / -hp Sanaki. I used to run Swordbreaker but it turns out she can't OHKO any of the DC swords and almost always gets killed on the counter. She has a lot more utility with TA / GTomebreaker / Axebreaker.
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>>184299108
Probably +atk/-whatever, since her attack stat is pretty huge and she gets even more huge with cav buffs.
You can look at the calculator against common threats to be sure though, I'm just talking out of my ass right now.
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>>184299037
still No bikini Camilla
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Can anybody post their flier teams? Just wanted some for the reference when I'll start building one after I roll Hinoka (maybe not)
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>>184299135
/feg/ only cares about the tier list when it has characters they like ranked higher than characters they don't like. It's applicable to any tier list from any site too.
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>>184299037
If they gave Camilla the shaft they sure as shit can give the Hoshido siblings the shaft.
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>>184299120
Roll for what you want. I have Fae, so I don't really need Julia. I really want a DC sword that isn't Xander or Ryoma though.
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>>184298537
Probably, but who cares? You can make him work well and he has a great starting kit, which is more than can be said for the majority of other reds.

Just don't put your hopes on him on defense.
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>Tempest Trials
>Arena Assault
>Voting Gauntlet
How many feathers do you think we'll get by the end of August?
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>>184298537
Ryoma and Xander are probably better in Arena and the like but Ike is extremely good in shit like Tempest/Chain Trials. Heavy Blade, Swordbreaker, and Aether in his base kit make keeping him alive really easy provided you're not retarded.
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>>184298768
>Not using Brave Lance with Heavy Blade for Galeforce memes
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>>184299209
Triple Reinhardt defense team is cheesy enough that it'll probably get you at least one a win every time. However, if I ever see that team in my arena run, I'm going to put you on blast.
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>>184299326
Enough to make all of my dreams come true.
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>>184299218
>not using QP+Heavy Blade+Firesweep L for guaranteed safe Galeforce procs
I wish I was swimming in enough fodder to do that.
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>>184295042
Can you believe that to this day I still haven't roll a single Odin? And I have plenty blues
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>>184298740
I want to massage Sanaki's feet with warm oils and have her give me a footjob as a token of her appreciation!
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>>184299209
Merge them.

Getting a defense win with a single Reinhardt is easy enough.
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>>184294981
>>184297395
>being a cuck
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>>184295042
>585/585

What the fuck
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>>184299283
Sorry Camillafag, seems IS doesn't like your waifu. But that's ok, the better sister got one of the good alts.
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These calender things exist (or will exist) for the top ten of each gender. There's just one character from them not in the game yet. Micaiah. (Some of the artwork used for them isn't even from Heroes)
Question is, which will we see first? Micaiah released in game or November?
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>>184294981
>>184296384
Yes, yes, yes! We are allses brotherses.
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>>184298740
Plz respond
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>>184298740
Just save the feathers if you don't have hinoka yet.
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>>184298740
>>184299614
Whats the bane dipshit
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>>184296384
>>184299584
Youses do youses.
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>>184299584
Legion a good boy
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>>184299108
Best is +atk. -hp is the optimal bane since -def or -res lowers her tanking ability and you really don't want 22 speed.
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>>184299037
I'm sure we'll get a Hoshido summer banner with Mamui.
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>>184299614
Thank you for reminding me of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeFxdkaFzRA
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>>184297878
>>184294981
I tried to make it a little better since it was just her face
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Somebody remind me; when you roll your first 5* on the Hero Fest banner, does that initial 5% rate reset back down to a 3% one?
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when's mister twelfth place
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>>184299685
+spd -res
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>>184299867
No.
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>>184299797
Don't tell me he is gonna replace Hinoka
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>>184299818
Aren't owls the least intelligent birds?
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Guys.
Is there a way to conquer Thabes?
That fucking dungeon is hard as fuck.
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>>184299867
Base rating of heroes on focus will be 5% on top of the 3% chance of pulling a 5*.
Pretty good odds if you want to dump orbs, but nothing is really worth your time unless you need Heavy Blades, or want Ninian/Julia.
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>>184299874
Make his critical quotes /feg/
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>>184299886
5 star that shit this second that is one of her best IV's
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>>184294981
Best I can do with my shitty mouse
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>>184299037
If they skipped out on Camilla then they can skip out on Hoshido.
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>>184299874
Loving Husbands themed banner with Largo, Pent and Canas
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>>184299037
>another month to save before cyl
Excellent.
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>Having fun training up units on double SP weekend
>Finally get to Softboy, want to at least get him to Level 40
>Those fucking terrible stats
>Gets doubled by everything and dies to random shit because his best defensive stat is HP
>So much of a chore I lose all motivation and end up wasting a nearly refilled stamina bar due to boredom and frustration
What the fuck were they thinking? Is it some kind of sick joke? Isn't Seliph really popular in JP?
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>>184300007
You're a couple of cup sizes short there
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>>184299957
One has to be "FOR NATALIE"
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>>184299950
just make your entire team bow knights and also genny
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>>184299950
Killer Bows
Sweihander
Delthea with a Mage Ring

Ignore every fight on the bottom floors besides Grima, they're legit retarded without grinding
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Garon is the armored axe unit this game needs.
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>>184299284
My "just feed them your leftovers and call it a day" team.
Will take it more seriously when/if I roll a Caeda.
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>>184295831
Yeah, I don't think anything can top Melons Tiki.
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>>184300108
>More Fates shit
Kill yourself.
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>>184300061
All I know is that in CYL, he's the second least popular lord. Only Leif was lower.
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>>184300186
what about melon tiki with cameltoe
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>>184299797
>they at least make an effort to give male/female Robin representation in things
>literally everything is shifting to focusing on Femui

Did Mamui really deserve to be kicked to the curb like he did? Like okay, nobody really liked him, but it's like he got banished from the church or something.
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When are we getting red and green brave tomes?
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>>184300101
I Genny really useful?
>>184300107
How long until Grima?
I reached floor 10 but a fucking dragon is killing me.
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>>184300380
femu only got the summer alt, male robin is clearly the winner there
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>>184300061
The idea behind his base kit was to soak damage with his high HP, increase his defense when at low HP with his sword and then proc Brash Assault when at low HP.

Whoever thought that was a good idea deserves a shot in the head.
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Darting blow, fury or LnD for blade Ursula? I feel like fury isn't giving enough speed and she isn't going to need the bulk when she ORKOs almost everything.
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>>184300159
Isn't Palla better than Caeda? She can at least counter greens well enough with a Ruby Sword.
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>>184300380
Yes. I'll never get over how bad all the male customization options were and how he has resting mong face like RD Soren.
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>>184300445
Yes, but it's at least an effort. More than can be said for poor Mamui.
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>Still no Miccy
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>>184299874
Summoined:
>I fight for my wife
Death :
>This mutton taste funny
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>>184300494
I want another Fortify Flier to buff Corrin's Blarblade.
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>>184297436
>scarflard is a lucinafag
heh
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>>184300441
Genny doesn't get fancy tools like Titty's Fortify or Silque's Warp or Faye's Rescue, but she makes up for it with the shittiest invoke of the game
which in turn makes it the most effective, since enemies will almost always attack them instead of you.
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>>184300418
Aversa will have the red brave tome.
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>>184300474
brash assault in general is just plain bad
>okay so everything dies in one hit
>let's make a skill that needs you to be below half HP, and then you have to take a hit, and then if you're still alive you can attack again
>and if you're sufficiently slow and didn't finish them off, they'll attack again after your second attack and certainly kill you
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>>184300494
They are both equally shitty
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Guys, I thought Tempest Trials was pretty fucking awful. Then the FGO NA Nerofest happened.

Jesus fucking christ, what were they thinking? Why do people like this game?

>When there's no event going on, grind chaldea gate missions until AP runs out
>When there's an event going on, grind event to farm more materials to grind non-stop

JESUS CHRIST
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>>184300490
Why would you ever need more than 3 speed? Are you not using horse buffs?
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>>184300494
+Atk Caeda's actually pretty decent with a Wo Dao and Moonbow with her meme buffs going

The problem is not everyone has a spare Athena/Coldsteel lying around
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Has anyone ever gotten a defense with a flier team? Also won't people just start using takumi again if fliers ever take off and git gud?
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>>184300649
You can't afford to be that picky if you have literally two options
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I SAVED THIS FOR YOU!
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>>184300441
>I Genny really useful?
ÿes. as fuck. Use her invoke to summon a gorillion fucking soldiers and watch the AI target them instead of your low HP allies. She has high Str, so she's in OHKO range for Seraphim.

>>184300494
+Atk Caeda > +Spd Palla > Neutral Palla > Neutral Caeda

Also, to build a +Spd Palla all you really need is Reposition and Fury. Maybe Axebreaker if you want to middle finger axes that badly.
Caeda needs a Slayer Sword/Wo Dao/Silver Sword, Reposition, Iceberg/Luna/Moonbow, Fury, and Desperation.
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>>184299886
Done senpai. Should I merge my two Cordys or is Galeforce too good to waste?
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>>184300643
Yeah, you need huge defense to actually use Brash Assault. The only way to make it good would to put it on as a weapon effect, so you could use Brash Assault Desperation.
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Aversa aside, are there literally any other canon mage fliers?
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>>184300794
Save this! *unzips dick*
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>>184300708
>willingly playing a 1% gacha
Saving everything from the start of the game and missing the unit you want when it finally comes around isn't for me
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>>184300708
The people that play FGO like to fool themselves as if they are having fun when in reality it's torture with all of the nonstop grinding.
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>>184300000
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>>184297436
I'm still waiting for a goddamn Catria banner, maybe after this Cavalier one is done they'll slap her on a flier banner finally.
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>>184300708
I just went through 4 bars of AP to farm to only get 1 drop of what I needed FUCKING OCTUPLET CRYSTALS.

I'll take TT over this anyday.
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>>184300831
Meant for >>184299991
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>>184300708
Haha, I bet you've never played Granblue. There are special characters that can only be obtained from in-game grinding and I think so far only one or two people have gotten all 10 of them. Getting just one took me a month or two of dedicating myself to it.
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>>184300752
I am, but still. Some shit is fast out there. Her speed isn't amazing to begin with and I won't be using a goad in her team, not for a while at least, so it feels like her speed is missing a little oomph.
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Is the game fun yet? Left since the Clarisse GHB.
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>>184300775
>won't people just start using takumi again if fliers ever take off and git gud?
takumi and 3 dancers
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>>184300910
didnt pg get digits last time too?
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>>184300418
Never, and they would be prf anyway
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>>184299950
Two Killer Bow Archers, a Zweihander DF, and Delthea.

Also bring all your Saints for Invoke fodder.
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>>184300708
Heroes is getting pretty shitty too. Tempest Trials monthly, One time Squad Assault is acceptable but it's probably going to refresh for more Squad seals, Chain Challenge with ultra stat bloat and now Arena Challenge.
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>>184300643
Like, if you take the story mode and other modes into consideration, you can see the reasoning behind it.

A big problem with Seliph is how, stat wise, he's just Chrom but Worse.
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>>184300914
>flier banner
My flier team will finally be complete if they'll actually do that and include Hinoka in it.
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>>184300848
Camilla
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>>184300638
But the stupid things suicide on ally turn.
How many floors are there? I want to know if I'm near the end.
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>>184300848
pray for dork flier sumia
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>>184301053
>less atk, spd and def for more res
>his res still sucks so he still dies to green tomes

Man, what a waste.
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>>184294043

Did that fag finish tacthack yet?
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>>184301087
10 floors

The last floor only has Grima or "The Creation" as it's called

Honestly Thabes is by far the coolest thing to have spawned from something Awakening-related
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>>184300775
I have gotten some but it's very inconsistent. The best way to fuck someone's day on defense is just by giving everyone reposition so they close in faster than expected.

>>184300831
>>184300946
Galeforce and Brave Lance+ are both really good inheritance skills. Galeforce rarely sees use but there are a few units who would really like the Brave lance, Effie for example.

>>184301000
41 speed is really fast anon, I have no idea what ungodly creations you are running into that that doesn't double. If you don't want to use a goad, Life and death might be worth it since she doesn't really need bulk anyway.
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So I heard you guys were thinking about making a flier team.
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>>184300848
Dark Flier Emma
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>>184300828
Is +spd/-atk Palla worth investing into, or should I wait for a better one?
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>>184300794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuiIrIzgacc
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>>184300380
See, at least femui has the dumb bimbo aesthetic

She gives the impression that she'd choke on your dick if you just told her that it would be "for the sake of her country"

Mamui's just a massive beta that anyone would be embarrassed to self-insert as
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>>184300883

Perhaps the same could be said of every gacha game.
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>>184301053
>less Atk, Spd, and Def
>more Res but his Res is still garbage anyways

What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>184299950
Alm + Royal Sword (Double Lion)/Killer Bow (Hunter's Volley)
Celica, Sages, Priestesses + Mage Rings
Dread Fighters + Brave Swords/Astra
Bow Knights + Killer Bows
Saints
>Faye has Nosferatu, Seraphim, Recover, [Physic, Rescue, Anew]
>Silque has Nosferatu, Seraphim, Recover, [Warp, Invoke, Expel]
>Tatiana has Nosferatu, Seraphim, [Physic, Fortify, Invoke, Warp]
>Genny has Nosferatu, Seraphim, Recover, [Expel, Physic, Invoke]

Brave effects and critical hits are the way to deal with their inflated HP stats. Zweihander and Rhomphaia can add your Skill or Spd, respectively, if they're high enough to OHKO and you can't double, but Pegasus Knights/Gold Knights/Barons suck.
Your Mages and Bow Knights will have the range to ORKO things from afar, like those dickass dragons with the 3 Rng breath that ignores Def for 30+ HP.
Genny does have the best Invoke, since her Soldiers are weakest, followed by Tatiana's Pegasus Knights, unlike Silque's Dread Fighters, which'll tank for you and avoid damage.
If you can afford to take hits, Faye + Tatiana is probably the best combo for Saints without reducing your offense. Expel is useless on Great Terrors, both have Physic, Warp + Rescue syngery for sake ORKOs, and Tatiana has Invoke for tanking and baiting (and Faye can Anew her for more summons).
Celica and Alm give each other Crit, Atlas gives Celica Crit, Gray gives Bow Knight Tobin Crit, Tobin gives Sage Kliff Hit, if you want some synergy.
Just rush to Floor 10 and take out Grima as quickly as possible, serenes has a map. Promoting your Dread Fighters back into Villagers to grind stats can cheese it.
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Anybody have a reasonable Sharena strategy for Lunatic Lloyd? The problem I'm running into is always where the characters meant to weaken him just outright kill him while Sharena herself just puts him in Glacies range.
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>>184301217
Wait. Almost no unit is worth promoting at -spd or -atk.
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>>184301201
>TA/Raven
>Iote's shield
>18 base res
Yep.
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>>184301201
You get ORKO'd by Cordelia.
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>>184301201
shut up nerd
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>>184300754
>>184300828
>Has +ATK -DEF Caeda at 5* and a dupe 5* Athena to spare
>Has Minerva
>Has +SPD -DEF Honkers
>Literally no motivation to try out fliers because I'm not smitten with any of the two mages so far and I'm not esportsfag enough to roll just for that

How fucked are fliers without a mage? Convince me to roll for dragon pussy otherwise.

>>184300946
Galeforce is good, keep
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>>184301348

give her swordbreaker
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>>184301047
I agree. Heroes needs more diverse game modes and I was pretty shocked when the announcements indicated that we're going to get mostly more of the same + free shit.

I think Tempest Trials are ultimately a blunder as most people don't actually enjoy it. They need to rework it and come up with some other content to keep us satisfied rather than running it back over and over again. I'm pretty sure they are aware of how shitty the reception for the game mode has been too.
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So I just logged onto FEH for the first time in a while and I saw there was a Nohrian swimsuit banner. And I got pretty excited, only to see that there's no fucking swimsuit Camilla. What the fuck IS, Camilla was literally made for swimsuits. But no, instead we get Corrin. Who even cares about Corrin? Where is my fucking Camilla?
Retards threw away free money for no reason. They could have given us 5 units if they really wanted Corrin. Or they could have kicked Elise off the banner instead, no one gives a shit about her.
Fuck, I'm mad.
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>>184301464
kys mommyfag
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>>184301040
Well it's time to use the gay and Tobin.
>>184301186
Nice thanks but Thabes is fucking bullshit, you can attack an enemy and still be surrounded by enemies at the start of the map.
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>>184301201
If people don't have atleast 3 Iote's shields by now with all the Michalis re-runs it's their own damn fault. People should have seen this coming. Fliers, like most units in the game, are perfectly viable for those who are committed, not dumb and prepared.
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>>184301450
It's funny you know, when there's no TT I miss it but when TT is in effect: I hate it. I feel like TT is a step in the right direction, but executed poorly. Not sure what would be the right way to execute it though.
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Who here saved their orbs and skipped the Bride Banner and now feel deep regret for missing out on Bridelia?
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>>184301446
Don't really have a Swordbreaker available to just throw around.
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>>184301372
>>184301395
>>184301425
Die already!
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>>184301450
They probably added that shit because of whales complaining that the current content is too easy.
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>>184301201
*unzips brave axe cherche*
*gets repositioned behind you*
*hit's you twice*
*hit and runs away*
pssshhhh...
nice try, kiddo
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>>184301217
no. The only unit with -Atk you want to invest is a healer. The only unit with -Spd you want to invest is an Armor.

use that palla wisely for her Moonbow.
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>>184301348
SB. If you have no SB fodder my level 34 (?) Sharena was able to avoid getting doubled after a rally speed and finished him pretty easily.
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>>184299584
That's cute.
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>>184301584

give someone poison strike and kite him until your sharena can kill him then
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>>184301583
Got her in my first 40 orbs, +Atk -Res.

But don't worry, I've had shit luck on just about every other banner since launch so it probably balances out.
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>>184301450
Really hoping they add some Raid Mode or something where you get to fight dragons and FE bosses one day.
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>>184301573
No. Fucking. Bonus units.

Arena is incentive enough to keep up to date with the latest banners, but punishing less lucky players, especially the f2p ones, with having to grind a game mode like TT for pretty much no reason is just bad design
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>>184301189
Many things have speed in the high 30s so it's just to be safe with inflated stats/buffs in Infernal/merged units and 3 attack from fury seems negligible when she's reaching like 70 attack anyway, as well as def/res since as you said she doesn't need the bulk. The big downside is LnD locked behind 20k feathers, while fury helps her get into desp range.
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>>184301548
DFloop once if you're worried. The only grinding I did pre-Thabes was loop my 2 DFs once to hit max speed/skill, Thabes was fine. Finding the Mystery Relics is the true cancer of Echoes
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>>184301347
>Dread fighters

Waste of space, put more bow knights, im not kidding, they're mostly useless in the bottom floors, you can make due with just 1, even with Brave swords they're underwhelming because they need to enter melee range to do damage, their class is welcome mostly for reclass cheese, but the shitty bottom floor maps and the grima map have a layout that isn't friendly for any foot units.

Bring one and that's it
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>>184301602
Hush now sweetie, mommy will make it all better, just close your eyes and you'll be back in your summoner's castle before you know it!
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Is summer Xander even good? If so, how do I build up a +def/-res one? Or should I feed him to someone for his Infantry Pulse?
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>>184301573
When the orbs are the best reward from the TT then the TT is a total failure.
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>>184301583
Nah, a horse archer will probably kick her out of the meta since horse buffs can get ridiculous.
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>>184301348
Use weaker or slower units that don't kill lloyd. Pretty straightforward.
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>>184301616
Maybe, but as a F2Per I do enjoy the difficulty of GHBs since Legion's release. As far as new GHBs, including Infernal Rerun of Lloyd, I'd rate it:
Berkut + Legion (Hard and difficult, enjoyable to try and figure out the puzzle) > Lloyd (Not hard, but fun in being flexible enough to try out many different strategies due to map shape+size and units on it) > Clarrise (I did not like it, felt abit too straight-forward and brain dead).
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>>184301047
Chain Challenge is so fucking retarded. I never thought they could make a mode I hate more than TT but they really outdid themselves.
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>>184301583
I spend 70$ to get Charlotte

Best decision ever, I got a good Hinoka, a good Cordelia, a +Atk Rein (4*), a Bride Caeda and finally Charlotte.
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>>184301816
>TT where every single reward is replaced with orbs, including feather rewards
I'd do this to 99k and higher easily.
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>>184301450
People shit on Arena Assault a lot but I think the key thing to take away from it is that it doesn't cost stamina or dueling swords, so there's no restriction to when you want to try it
It's literally that on demand content that people have been wanting for awhile now, so while not totally innovative I think it's at least something
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>>184301871

wait until the new arena mode comes, you need a new team every match, it will be whales paradise
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>>184301827
Any horse archer is going to be fucked hard in terms of stat distribution/totals no matter what you do, considering even infantry archers have low BST and I doubt they'd let one be too good in both Atk/Spd knowing what horsebuffs are.

But who knows, this is IS we're talking about.
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>>184301430

Having any kind of ranged attacking is kind of important for dealing with maps with walls(the only thing that impedes fliers). Brave Weapons can deal with most of the faster archers handily, but if they're hiding behind other people you're in for some hell.
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>>184301816
I actually stopped caring at 80k last TT before I just couldn't force myself to do anymore, the orbs did not feel worth it.
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>>184301904
Fuck man. I still regret not rolling on that banner. I love charlotte.
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>>184301583
Based Rath is going to come along and kill the cuck for good so I'm not worried
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>>184301181
I want to fuck the lesbian out of Lani!!
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1 more hour of 2x SP left.
Go feed your dragonslut.
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>>184300547
One day anon
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>>184301347
I use Faye, Silque and Tatiana so I think I don't need Genny and thanks for the tip, going to bench Mathilda since she isn't doing shit.
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>>184301904
Damn, good on you man. Wish I had the disposable income to do this but college life makes it rough.
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>>184302032
1400sp so far
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>>184301904
Whoever that guy is, he has a really nice A S S
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>>184301975
All they'd need is non-Jagen tier offenses to be a threat, because that's how dumb horse buffs and Brave weapons are.
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>>184300547
I hope she gets a good artist. Whoever drew Summer Corrin would be nice.
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>>184302032
I finished already
By the time I roll a fury she'll have the SP for it
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>>184301960
At least it won't cost stamina or swords. I'll just use it to test out new teams and see how the AI handles my defense team.
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>>184301583
I'm not an e-sports fag and can kill any Bridelias I come across with MRobin so I'll just save for an archer I actually care about.
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I have 0 orbs. When will the pain go away?
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>>184302242
im 56 minutes
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>>184301797
help plz
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>>184302091
damn you weren't kidding
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>>184302219
>look at me I can easily kill a very glassy player phase unit!
Fuck off you cuckold.
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>>184302021

So its not done. u stupid gay
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>>184301797
Nah, he sucks.
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>>184302209

>and see how the AI handles my defense team

w-what do you mean by that? are the matches auto battled by the AI or something?
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>>184302242
If you want anyone on the current banners then keep rolling. Otherwise take the L, don't be bothered by the pity rate (if you have one), and save your orbs.
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>>184301827
I doubt it. A mounted archer would be better in theory, sure, but they'd need a cav team to work. Bridelia works all on her own.

>>184301975
A mounted archer would have as much BST as a mounted mage, and look how good Olwen and Reinhardt. Hell, Cecilia would be as good as Reinhardt if she could inherit a brave weapon like archers can. Even Leo would be okay, since he only has 3 less atk than Reinhardt.
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>>184302161
Who would fill that role anyways? Maybe Rath or Shin? Midir is so booty I can see him having 26/28 offenses.
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>>184302374
But I'm not Tacthack.

Also, I want to fuck Celia until both of us faint!!
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>>184302613
Python.
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>>184302691
Python's booty too though.
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>>184302161
+Atk Bridelia's 38/35 statline plus a potential offensive +3/+4 from any decent infantry buffer is going to be hard to beat just because a +6/+6 exists. The gap isn't as drastic as it is with bladetome cavalry, and your total BST on a cavalry archer is probably never going to be conductive to the exact build that Quadelia runs.

I mean, will a horse archer with good offensive stats and buffs still be really fucking good? Of course. But I think very best case scenario is that if you get a unit with a fantastic offensive spread, you'll still only have a unit that, when perfectly optimized, will be at par with Bridelia instead of making her obsolete. Cavs benefit most from being able to easily get +6 in all stats, where in a quad type build like Bridelia you only really care about the offensive ones.
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i wish i had money i want fucking corrin damnit
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>>184301958
>What ISIS gave us: Arena Assault
>What I really wanted: Practice/sparring matches with people on your friend list

More friend features when reeeeee
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>>184301797
Those IVs are pretty nice, that's basically green Lukas.
Give him QR, Ignis, and maybe a slayer axe if we ever get one for memes.
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Which Cecilia to promote, a +atk or +spd one? Both are -res.
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>>184302726
I want Python's booty
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>>184300380
>pussy pass is strong with this dragon.
but really mamui and hoshido deserve something.
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>>184302615

THAT IS MY TACTFAG WAIFU! LEAVE HER ALONE
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>>184302801
We know Forsyth.
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>>184302726
What's this about Python's booty
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Say something nice about Doot
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>>184300380
Sorry Mamuifag, but there are characters they like such as Femui, Xander and Lucina, and characters they don't like such as Mamui, Leo and Camilla. That's just the way it goes. Mamui will never get an alt.
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>>184302784
+Atk for gronraven, +Spd for gronblade
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>>184302784
+Atk, that isn't even a question senpai.
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>>184302784
+atk if you really want it. -res is not optimal but perfectly serviceable.
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>>184302474
>A mounted archer would have as much BST as a mounted mage, and look how good Olwen and Reinhardt.
You're ignoring that half of what makes those two so good are either A. targeting Res instead of Def and B. Bladetomes. A Rein that targets Def is a significantly worse unit, and an Olwen that can't take her +6/+6/+6/+6 boosts and throw them on top of her attack is also a significantly worse unit.
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>>184302876
I'd rub Dooty's booty
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>>184302742
The horse would have more movement as well, thus it kills better. She'd be made obsolete
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>>184302876
As she's a good cancer magnet, she lets me know who to ignore
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>>184302784
Speed gets your a few more kills with blade+
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>>184302876
I'd buy her ice cream
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I'm going back to beginner's arena, everything else is just unwinnable for a F2P like me
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>>184302885
>>184302891
>>184302902
Thanks everyone, I'm planning to make her a TA raven cav support, since I already have Olwen for bladememes. +atk it is then.
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>>184302876
Luthier fucking when?
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>>184303003
Pervert.
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>>184302918
But you're forgetting that archers and colorless have significantly lower BST in general, and pairing that with a cavalry unit's BST means your potential horse archer can't possibly hit the same offensive highs as Bridelia, even in a perfect world where they go and try to do the exact same stat spread as they did for her. I just don't think we see it, and even if we do it won't be able to be the same.
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>>184302784
I say +Spd. Even with Gronnraven, after cav buffs your ability do double and not get doubled will increase drastically.
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>>184302784
+Atk is far better.
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>>184302824
No! I'm going to fuck Celia so hard she'll be recruited from a village again!! I'm going to fuck Celia so often she'll forget all about Brandon!!
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>>184303028
What B skill did you give to your Olwen?
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>>184303046
>mfw Luthier is going to be a Henry level mage.
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>>184303026
What's your roster look like? I'm F2P too and I'm not running into issues.
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>>184303043
Comes with a new battle background I like!
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>>184303060
Cav buffs exist.
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>>184303167
I really hope he has Henry tier stats and Dark Excalibur for the fattest Ignis nukes
trying to compete with blade nukes was a lost cause
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>>184303167
But I need a Luthier for my doot
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UPDATEEEEEEE AHHHHHHHHH
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>>184303167
>Sagittae
>16 Mt
>Grants adjacent allies who use swords, axes, lances, or dragonstones Spd+6 through their next actions at the start of each turn.
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save orbs for herofest or attempt to get infantry pulse fodder?
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Does watersweep get passed tomebreaker?
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>>184303225
And I thought this might have been a new palm background, but I was wrong. Still, cute fishies, so I'm keepin' it.
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>>184303167
he's going to have a buff tome like sister most likely dare I say +6 atk for ranged users :^)
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>>184301297
Ayami Kojima art for Heroes when?
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>>184301975
The thing is, well, Horse buffs are retarded

Look at this, this is with a fucking 26/25 offensive spread (terrible on all accounts) and it's still devastating to the vast majority

You'd literally have to have unprecedentedly low offenses on the mounted Archer for Cordelia to not be kicked to the curve
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>>184303384
>You don't get to double in either case
>They don't get to counter attack period so doubling is a non issue

Baka
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>>184303359
Do both
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>>184303248
Yes, and like I already went over, the difference you get with those cavbuffs compared to what infantry offers will, in a literal best case scenario where they give a cavalry unit the exact same stat spread as Bridelia, bring them a few points shy of being offensively up to par with her. And in that case, you're right, mobility would probably make them a better unit even if they were a couple points shy in Spd or Atk compared to her when buffs are all said and done.

But that's making the huge assumption that IS would ever introduce a horse archer with the absolutely broken stat spread of Bridelia, considering she is the single most extreme case we've ever gotten for a unit so far. I mean, if they did, of course it'd be a good unit. But I don't see that happening any time soon, if ever.
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So the 6 month anniversary login bonus won't stack with some sort of daily login bonus I'm guessing?
Wonder why they bothered hyping it up so much during Feh channel.
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>>184303557
Katarina a cute!
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>>184303513
You wouldn't even need Bridelia's stats for the Bow Knight to invalidate her

Even like 30/30 or something like that would do it
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>>184302784
>raise my neutral cecilia
>pump 40k feathers into her
>couple days later roll +atk one
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>5* Karel +Def, -HP
>four 3*
Is this even worth keeping? I was thinking of just rerolling till I pulled a good Azura, Ryoma, or Hector.
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>>184303603
she can still receive normal buffs
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Just came back from a brief hiatus, which banners are good to pull from? I've noticed the new summer one has another mage flyer, is she good?
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>>184303606
merge em
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>>184303614
Not really. There are much better sword units than him, so you're better off rolling for them.
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>>184303614
Keep rerolling.
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>>184303182
Its this bad
Rein is +Res/-Spd
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>>184303586
yes!
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>>184303104
If TA 3 Raven Cecilia is getting hit, it's gonna be against Colorless or Blue...maybe a weak green. She's not afraid to be doubled by those, and likes the Special charge.

+Atk Cecilia is the generally more useful Cecilia. The only situation where a +Spd is genuinely more useful is when she's properly buffed while using Gronnblade and is in Desperation 3 zone. Even then, you have 3 other members on the team. Let Raven Cecilia be the colorless and blue killer she's meant to be.
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>>184303674
Don't I have to 5 star my +atk before merging into my neutral horse?
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>>184303513
You're severely underestimating the power of Cav buffs.

And if the Cav-buffed unit ties Cordelia, then they still outclass her because of the better movement.
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>>184302903
>A. targeting Res instead of Def
Fair enough, although consider that they would have no WT to be affected by. Even TA wouldn't work because of the reasonably rollable CA on 4* Mathilda. Even though she apparently doesn't get the level 3 version until 5*, goddammit IS.
>and B. Bladetomes
Quad Olwen is not a meme.
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>>184303453
Damage Calculator doesn't actually tell me anything, though- give me that unit's success rate against a buffed cavalry team with DC weapons, or against a Hector. I'd imagine a good number of those draws are against upper tier Arena teams. Bridelia's brokenness comes from being able to slaughter literally everything important in the game with nothing more than a single Ardent Sacrifice.

>>184303603
30/30 would probably be that best case scenario for a near-identical stat distribution, though, given the colorless/cavalry BST combo. You're underestimating just how much of a hit those two combos take in overall stat totals.

You'd probably end up with a 25/25 unit like >>184303453 suggested, or a unit that has higher Atk but lower Spd like Rein, which is still great in terms of final results but doesn't invalidate Bridelia.
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>>184302613
Shin: Hawk of The Plains
Neutral Bow, Cavalry
38 HP / 33 Atk / 33 Spd / 22 Def / 21 Res

Iron Bow > Steel Bow> Short Bow > Short Bow+
Short Bow+ has 11 mt and adds +10 damage on special.

Skills: Moonbow, Swift Strike and Goad Cavalry.
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>>184303742
You can actually merge a 5* into a 4* and then keep merging 4* Cecilias into her for a 4*+10
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>>184303716
You have rein and xander. How are you stuck in beginner arena? I don't have any of those and I'm tier 18, and only play advanced. Maybe you're just a terrible player.
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>>184303656
Normal buffs are nothing to the constant +10s Cavmemes are capable of maintaining.

At best she can consistently get +3Atk/+4Spd from one of the Incest Twins.
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>>184303716
-spd is the best for reind.
+ res is m'eh. Can help a bit vs mages/dragons sometimes but obviously inferior to + atk. +Atk can net you a few extra KO with buffs/Deathblow but as long as Reind isn't -atk he does fine
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>>184303742
if you want 5*+1 yeah, but you don't have to if you just want to bring her skills over
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>>184303716
Buddy, if you can't get arena wins with a Xander/Rein/Dancer/anybody combo, I don't know what to tell you.

Just throw Hone Cav onto Xander and have a field day.
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>>184295042
How much money, I have to know
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>>184303806
Can infantry buffs fix the cav problem or it would create a new one?
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>>184303139

NEVER! THE TRUE FULL GAME WILL NEVER EVER COME OUT SO YOUR EVIL CANNOT DO YOUR KEKLY WAYS
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>>184303892
I am not very fortunate and don't have many SI done. I fell to Tier 16 and can't make good decisions anymore

>>184303952
He's got that. Problem is I really underestimate enemy range when they have a dancer
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>>184303742
1) Do you want your +Atk Cecilia to be Gold? Then yes. You'll then have a 5*+1 Cecilia that's +Atk.

2) Why don't you merge that Gronnraven+ down to that 4* Cecilia and then merge 9 more Cecilias you'll inevitably get? You'll reach 4*+10 way faster and cheaper than 5*+5. Plus, you've already got the Gronnraven+, which you'd eventually do anyway.
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Anyone got a good Palla build?

No idea what to put on her.
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>>184304009
IS tried with Doot but being able to only buff one stat and only for physical units makes it continue to be worthless compared to cavalry buffs.

I don't understand why they're so hesitant about it considering they've already supplied horses with everything they need to succeed.
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>>184303829
>Hector

Yeah about that

+Spd Fury Ryoma dies too, as does +6 Fury Xander
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>>184303857
Are you that theorizing anon, by any chance?
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Are we getting 5 orbs tonight from that twitter shit?
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>>184302032
Don't really need the SP right now, decided to try out Squad Assault and cleared it in one go. Being able to preview maps 2-5(which are copies of chapter 2-5's first maps with inflated stats) made it easy to pick out counters for each. Only close call was with my dragon team on Roy's map, which didn't have the firepower to kill off a few things instantly so shit got dicey.
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>>184304203
No
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oh god
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>>184304192
No. But I can oblige if you want.
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>>184304280
Fuck that shit.
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>>184304145
It's funny- what actually helps your hypothetical horse archer so much more is that with those shitty offensive stats and higher defensive ones, that makes them more able to survive the counter from someone like Hector. Of course, none of it matters when Ardent Sacrifice comes into play, but that's interesting all the same.

Huh, I'll have to reconsider then. I do wonder how your horse archer would fare against ridiculous TT-type boosted enemies, though, since I feel like that's where Bridelia has truly shined for me compared to any other nuker on my roster.
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>>184304119
Because infantry in general tend to have more minmaxed spreads. Like, the strongest offensive spread on a mounted mage right now is 31/34, now consider what would happen if you gave those buffs to Linde with her 35/36 horseshit.

The thing about horse teams is that you really need most of your team composition to be horses for it to work, while infantry can just fit in anywhere, so it'd be easier to manipulate their weaknesses as a result. The current issue is that those weaknesses are total nonissues at the moment, but ISIS is slowly trying to add things to fix that.
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>>184304108
Ruby Sword+ (Wall), Wo Dao+/Slaying Edge+ (Offense)
Movement Assist
Moonbow
Darting Blow (if +Atk), Death Blow (if +Spd), Swift Sparrow (if either)
Your favorite B-Skill, breakers/WoM/sweep etc there's millions of useful ones
Fortify Fliers

The thing about Palla is, she's the Flier Support. Jack-of-all-Trades. Most importanly, she's the Fortify Flier buffer for your Summer Corrin/Spring Camilla. Michalis/Minerva is the Hone Flier buffer, Cordelia goes nuts with her +Spd, DeathBlow Galeforce Brave Lance.
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>>184304285
delet this, gilliam belongs to syrene

garcia can go light his beard on fire with dozla
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>>184301975
Enemy bow knights in the tower(and story maps) tend to be on the slow side, though a lot of more notables ones in the series are actually moderately fast, so who knows how shit will go down.
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I think IS is trying to phase out infantry units. Only horses and fliers allowed.
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>>184304285
>Gilliam will NEVER EVER be in Heroes because IS hates armors with an intense burning passion to rival 1,000 burning suns
feels bad
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>>184302032
Reminder to not level up Draco vago or any new summer unit to cheese the gauntlet
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>>184304570
>he can't even complete something as simple as gauntlet battles without cheesing it

Haven't lost one since launch.
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>All the focus on the two avatars in the series is on Male Robin/Female Corrin from what it seems now

How do you feel about this /feg/?
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(lol
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>>184304380
Think you can do Ilyana? I'm in a PoR mood since I'm replaying it currently.
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>>184304650
Good. They are the better of the two respectively
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>>184304553
Lucina will get a halloween costume as a robot/armor before they add one from the series in.
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>>184304570
If you need to cheese the gauntlet battles by wasting your time keeping Summer Corrin at level 1, then you need to git gud.
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>>184304108
Wo Dao+
Moonbow
Fury/Darting Blow
Swordbreaker, maybe something else B slot's pretty adaptable
Goad fliers

+spd/-hp is her best IV
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>>184304676
gray's eyes look half-closed like he just knows he can sit in one place and eat all the hectors alive

your gray can do that right?
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>>184304676
That's probably the funniest thing I've ever seen here. I know that people go through great lengths to deceive you in arena, but a lv 1 virion? Really? Was the player japanese?
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>>184299584
One last fix since everyone just stopped with their OCs
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>Been playing since launch
>Not a single Minerva

MINERVA BANNER WHEN?
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>>184294043
Why links and resources only has fates shit?
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>>184304570
>cheesing the gauntlet
>cheesing out of literally the only fun mode this game has anymore
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>>184304570
>picking the obvious winner
Don't have him but I'll probably go with Frederick or something and then Leo for his obligatory 2nd round loss.
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Sometimes I think about what Fates could have been story-wise and it makes me sad.
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>>184304831
I WANT HER TOO, ANON
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>>184304831
When Michalis GHB came out was the best chance to get her, flier gauntlet banner was a trap full of all kinds of other junk.
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>>184304831
There was one months ago. Spents 120+ orbs on it. Never got her.

Michalis can take her spot just fine, though. They're both phenomenal Green Wyverns.
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>>184304690
This. I'm glad for one. Both Male Corrin and Female Robin look like shit and are shitty.
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>>184304915
>Don't have him but I'll probably go with Frederick or something and then Leo for his obligatory 2nd round loss
What? Leo isn't winning shit. Male side finals will be Fred and Xander and you know it.
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>>184304941
I got Minerva with the Flier gauntlet banner
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>>184304941
Everyone shat on it, but now everyone loves this banner.
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>>184304968
I agree on Male Corrin but FemRobin is a cutie.
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>>184294343
I'm glad we got all this Echoes stuff in bulk and a sizable pool to get their characters from, I hope they spread out the last of the characters a little though, give some focus to other games now.
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>>184304945
But anon, Michalis isn't as cute.
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>>184304913
lunatic chain challenge is fun
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>>184304923
I remember when the first trailer that actually explained the premise came out, and I thought it had so much potential. I was thinking Corn might be a political hostage as a result of a previous war like in true medieval fashion, meaning that he had been educated and raised in the Nohrian lifestyle rather than his native Hoshidan and that he would be sympathetic to their kingdom, and that would be a core part of the conflict, etc. etc., instead of just having him literally kidnapped by evil blob dad.

I was stupid.
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Pulled a bunch of 4* Claires sniping blue for Corrin.

Is hit and run superior to drag back?
I have a 5* cordelia, claire and hinoka.

Does it even matter?
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>>184305078
Michalis is much cuter.
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>>184305047
Battling Valter banner with Jeorge,Mathida, Linde and Cherche when?
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So when is the next real banner? One without fate garbage.

During the GHB or Celica Tempest?
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>>184304923
Reasons like this are why i stopped thinking

>>184305047
>Whaled 150 orbs on this
>Got x2 Weeds and Minerva
>Minerva was -SPD but with Fury she puts in work
>Merged my Woods up after getting a better base

That banner was great. So glad I rolled
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>>184305047
That's because this banner existed well before SI was a thing.
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>>184305169
You might as well roll for her. She's the only flying blue mage we're going to get anytime soon.
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>>184305169
If you mean with new units then maybe mid-August; a lot of people are speculating Valter's GHB in late August might hint at an FE8 banner.
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>>184305149
the GHB banners are long gone.
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>>184305104
We all were, anon. The premise was always great. IS still great. Execution was dogshit from every way imaginable.
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>>184305019
Oh right, I fucked up the bracket.
Fred or Gaius first round and Xander for 2nd round is probably what I'll be doing.
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>>184304752
yeah him and snacki went to town
>>184304764
wasn't even nip
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>>184305130
No, because it requires you to waste a skill slot.

No, it doesn't.
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>>184305063
I've gotten the two characters I wanted most from Echoes (Berkut and Sonya) so I don't really mind if they ignore it for a long while after this but I'm beyond pissed that fucking Clive is the Tempest reward for Celica. Tobin I didn't mind since he's at least from Alms army but they could have given us Valbar or Kamui or Conrad or Deen or something for Celicas, not fucking Clive.

At the very least him being the tempest reward means he won't spook me when rolling blues in the future.
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>>184305250
I'm not one to fall for shilling trash. Sorry friendo. My principles are more important than your stupid flying mage bimbo.
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>>184304913
Squad Assault was amusing, but took me all of 30 minutes to clear, and it was a single run at that. Actually looking forward to Arena Assault since I won't have to waste stamina fucking around with all kinds of team compositions for dealing with what's likely going to be based on randomized defense team gimmicks.
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>>184305273
They'll probably bring them back since there's no Magvel banner and Ephraim and Eirika haven't gotten a rate up for months.
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>>184305170
>whale
>150 orbs

Anon, that's barely even dolphin.
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>>184305169
We won't be getting a flying mage again anytime soon, anon. Spring Camilla, Summer Corrin...they aren't coming back for a long time, if at all.

And you'll want Summer Corrin.
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>>184305202
People were anticipating SI after its announcement when Michalis banner was out, meanwhile this banner is shit both pre and post SI.
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>>184294981
KAZE!!!

This took more time than I thought it would. Also, I cheated with Gimp, hehe.
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>>184304941
I spent 120~ orbs and only got Raven from that banner.
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>>184305047
I wished I whaled on Severa.
I missed the twin tails.

All my 3*/4* version of her went as reposition fodder.
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>>184304923
>>184305104
>>184305282
I still feel something watching this every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94CCxVMltQY

Imagine what could've been.
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>>184305401
He dies in birthright if you don't use him. Why.
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it's almost time
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>>184305373
>And you'll want Summer Corrin.

You fateshitters are too much.
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>>184305283
I've got a Fred and a Tiki already, so I'm set for either side, really. I do hope to pull Corrin and Elise and Xander, though.
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>>184305130
They're both the same as long as you take out the enemy. Supposedly Hit and Run is a decent B skill for Arena Score, but it's a difference of 1 point at most. SI it if you also need to slap Harsh Command on someone for whatever reason.
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>>184305443
>using her as reposition fodder instead of the countless other trash units with it
GET OUT.
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>Someone Rewrites all of Fates
Do you play it? What would it take to get you to like it?

>>184305132
I humbly disagree with you but I respect your opinion.

>>184305130
Drag back is better if you can kill, which Cordelia and Hinoka can. Claire is bad. I have one and I love her but she is bad.
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What special should I give my celica? Don't have moonbow. Is dragonic aura decent?
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>>184305345
>Ephraim and Eirika haven't gotten a rate up for months.
What I suspect is that the mid-agust banner will be a Magvel Banner with Seth, Lute, Larachel and hopefuly an axe user like Ross. Afterwards we'll get a Sacred Stones TT with Eph and Eiri on the banner.

On the other hand, Eirika will get a permanent rate up once the 3* and 4* rates reverse.
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>>184305471
I want magvel as much as the next guy, but a excellent stat spread flying blue mage with FISH special animation? Damn, I pity your tastes. You're really doing yourself a disservice out of your own hate.
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>>184305327
How sad your life must be so that you form principles around hate on game characters.
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Can I make cherche a pseudo Michaelis if I already have killer axe+ on her from Hawkeye
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>>184305454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz2LJ-4DDWU
>that first trailer way back in January of 2015
>all that theorizing over Ryoma and Xander

I can't wait till we get a first look at FE Switch and we think up a better idea than what IS probably did.
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>>184305551
Yeah, or just roll blues until you get moonbow.
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>>184305456
>birthright
(lol
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>>184305454
>peaceful hoshido
>hinoka
>taco

fuck those memers
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>>184305573
It's not getting a TT. FE3 didn't.
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>>184305573
Who would be the TT reward?
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>>184305545
I struggle with my Clair. I get the feeling she's on the cusp of something, but I dunno.
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>>184305353
*I whaled that month. It was around the time of FE7 banner too, totaled to 375 paid orbs Better now?
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>>184305443
>reposition instead of TA2
You're doing it wrong, anon
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>>184304968
FemRobin has much better customization options than Femui. She's also a better character in general.
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>>184305545
Completely overhaul the "story" and recast voices and stop the alteration of characters and "localization".

No unwarranted edits so the corrupt people at treehouse can give themselves a big paycheck.
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>>184305623
you could, but I can't think of a single reason why you'd want to
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>>184305454
They put way more effort into marketing the game than they did actually making it good.
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>>184305471
>he's going to be doing this for 32 more days
I wonder if that's enough time for people to recognize and ignore
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>>184305645
What does the ( mean?
Why not just say lol. Why the "(lol?"
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>>184305754
>people ignoring shitposting
>in 4chan
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>>184305540
>Olwen
>Barst

That's like 2 other options, and one's 5* exclusive. I only need one of her, and I rolled the IVs I wanted ages ago. Just never got around to doing anything besides slapping Bonfire on it.
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>>184305770
an old, forced meme
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>>184305770
It's pointless to question memes, especially old ones.
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>>184304683
Ilyana: Endless Hunger
Blue tome, Infantry
35 HP / 34 Atk / 32 Spd / 16 Def / 31 Res

Thunder > Elthunder > Rexbolt > Rexbolt+
Rexbolt+ has 13 mt

Skills: Iceberg, Escape Route and Fortify Res
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>>184305638
I just pray to god the crew in charge of modernizing Echoes' story is put in the same role for FE Switch.

And that's saying something, since I didn't think Echoes went too far beyond average.
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>>184305660
and yet Echoes did, and follows the same pattern of Banner + GHB.

Your argument should be "there aren't enough maps for a 7 map rush".

>>184305681
Duracell drawn by the Jagen/Gunther/Zephiel guy. He has Veteran Penalty.
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>>184305578
>>184305618
>defending fates
Any argument you might have had is thrown out of the window.
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2 minutes until nothing happens
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>>184304690
>They are the better of the two respectively
???

They do not differ from their counterparts

If anything they made FCorrin too attractive as an avatar hence why she is more popular
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>>184305623
She doesn't have the Defense and Brave Axe+ will not double on enemy phase (not with her speed).

Michalis is a prf Killer Weapon Ignis QR physical counter-attacker. You let the enemy hit him and you laugh as they barely hurt while he obliterates them and then moves on to do it again.

Cherche is meant to make use of thata ridiculous +Atk attack stat, a Brave Axe+ and Death Blow 3 on Player Phase as you watch enemies disintegrate.
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>>184305726
Iceberg is her only source of damage and the procs are still too slow at 3 turns. I feel like she'd do best with Iceberg, Killer/eventual Slaying Lance, and maybe QP for consistent procs. ...Or the lance version of Wo Dao I guess, whenever that comes out
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>>184305754
Probably not when there's always fish to bait
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>>184305843
Rexbolt would be a unique weapon.

You'll want Thoron instead. Thoron and then Thoron+.
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>>184305843
Do her husband now
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>>184305454
>hyped as fuck pre-release, falling for all the marketing like a complete sucker
>that week or so where I was still trying to delude myself that the story was good
>once I actually sat down and started thinking about it it fell apart in seconds

I can't even watch the trailers without the bitter disappointment settling back in.
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>>184305770
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>>184305845
Wasn't Echoes a B team? I mean FE Switch is already in development probably since Echoes was in development too.

Really even if it's not the same team we just have to hope they don't drop the ball as hard as they did with Fates.
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>>184305726
Try sapphire lance and some attack boosting A slot. It makes her closer to Camilla as an all around anti red.
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>>184305170
>+def - atk Minerva
Both a blessing and a curse. She's one of the few units who can still tank with LnD3.
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>>184305917
>Inb4 free Ryomas for everyone
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>>184305971
>avoided this entire cycle by playing the JPN leak months before the NA release
>got to play the entirety of Conquest without having to even acknowledge the shittyness of its story
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>>184305854
If taking a neutral stance towards a game and questioning your idiotic hate counts as defending a game, then you're really hopeless.
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>>184305754
Oh no, not at all. I'm only here for tonight to rustle your guys' jimmies for a couple minutes. You really think I'd stick around in a Fates echo chamber for a month to read nonstop posts about "oh god yes a flying mage"? HAHAHAHAHA
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>they told me sniping certain colors would get me what I wanted
>ended up with a bunch of pic related and robin M
Why did you lie to me /feg/?
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>>184305854
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DEAD GAME
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>>184306070
I played the JP version too. I was one of the people telling everyone that the story is actually complete, irredeemable shit.
>>
3 ORBS
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I have 20k feathers to either give Summer Femui Blarblade or finish my 4*+10 Saizo project by giving him Kagero's Poison Dagger.

Which one?
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>>184305806
Damnmit, why is she so cute.
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>>184306024
I have the same stat spread and it still works out great, coming with L&D and a ridiculously powerful weapon helps alleviate that lower damage, and it's still enough to take on some of the squishier reds.
>>
>>184305947
Rexcalibur wasn't so I figure Rexbolt wouldn't

>>184305965
Who is her husband? Zihark?
>>
>>184305980
They did a pretty bad job with Awakening too, though. What I'm most scared about is that if the Echoes team was entirely separate from the rest of the crew, that would imply that the faction that was more infatuated with skinship, marriage, and those features would likely have been the one with the majority for this early stage of Switch development considering the issues the company ran into between that and the more "classic" faction during Fates' development.
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>>184305980
>they don't drop the ball as hard as they did with Fates.
They did not

All the ones complaining are bitter Nohrcucks who wanted to play Nohr as the good guys

You will never hear Birthright and Revelation players complaining

>j-jjust ignore the story
(lol

Just play pong
>>
>>184306089
People laugh at this, but it's a very good stalling tactic to avoid moving.
>>
>Tfw I wanted to play fates after awakening
>Didn't want to give nintendo money for selling a censored to shit game
>Hacked my 3ds
>Excited as hell to play it
>Do conquest first
>GOOD LORD THE STORY IS BAD
>See hints it could have been great, but all fall apart.
>Gameplay is alright
>Beat it feeling it wasn't too bad overall.
>Try birthright
>Total Slog, no surprises anymore but at least I get to grind now.
>Beat it feeling like shit
>Try revalations
>Stop playing fates
>>
>>184305454
I didn't even watch any trailers aside from listening to Water sing. I was still hyped off my pants with the rest of /feg/, Fates actually managed to be the most hypest I have ever been for my whole life, never before did I look forward to anything more than that. JP release /feg/ was comfy as fuck, I stayed up late for Hamayama streams during all the twists that were only fun when you have no idea what the fuck is going on.

The honeymoon lasted a bit, as the internet began translating My Room lines and supports, and some of the best ones were posted early. It still looked great.

Then localization news began, and slowly, my hype died the slowest, most agonizing and painful death possible.

It was a fucking ride. I'm never going to get hype for anything ever again, because Fates permanently damaged my capacity to muster excitement.
>>
>>184306198
Birthright and Revelation were both terrible as well.

Fates as a whole is complete trash, they just didn't care.
>>
So what is up with the 5 free orbs? The retweets already got 10k each I think.
>>
>>184306087
What, you didn't want a bunch of Hone attack 2 and Drag Back? Should have rolled green for Spur Attack and Reposition then.
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>>184305843
Nice, I like it. Thanks man.
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>>184306135
I just loved laughing at Grandpa's Revenge more than anything. God, that Revelations leak was one of the best things from that summer.
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>>184305770
Fuck, finally found it.
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>>184306193
Fuck off grandpa

No one cares about 'classic' features
>>
>Shitates
(LOL
>>
>>184306178
Thoron+ already exists in the game's files though, so just go with that.

I can see what you mean with Rexcalibur though, that one's... strange. Tornado would suffice and yet they went with Rexcalibur.
>>
>>184306198
>You will never hear Birthright and Revelation players complaining

Tons of people complained about Revelation being the "canon true path" especially after IS went out of their way to insist that it wouldn't be pre-release
>>
>>184306306
Ah, I finally understand. Saved.
>>
>>184306279
The campaign only started yesterday, they don't distribute it when the goal is reached, it's a "If by X date we've reached this many rts we'll give you orbs" so we still have to wait a bit.
>>
>>184306303
>that time where people thought he was the actual final boss
>no, he was just being controlled and basically was a chapter-long diversion

Fates disappoints at every angle.
>>
>tfw 1 day left and 0 defenses
What am I doing wrong here? Last week was literally 1 defense only, with a different team.
>>
How stranger know my id?
I just started FEH two days ago and there's no record about my defensive team in arena, yet there's friend request.
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>>184306497
They're all infantry units.
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>>184306193
Fair enough, I still think that the skinship/fanservicey obsessed portion can deliver a good game as long as they get their shit together. Fates just felt kind of half-assed in a way, maybe with this being a proper HD console game it'll be better even if it's by the Fates team.
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>>184306538
it means they beat you lel
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>>184306198
>They did not

Name the continent Fates takes place on.

The conflict itself being the most black and white one in the entire series by a mile (which despite them insisting it wouldn't be, I saw coming considering the nations are literally called "Black and White") is honestly the least of the problems with the story and world of Fates.
>>
>>184306538
he shit on your team and sent a FR afterwards
>>
>>184305545
Got a link to the artist page?
>>
Four Fanged Assault!

>Llyod is 40+3
>Ursula 40+2
>Nino 40+5
>Jaffar
>>
>>184306608
balls deep in Clarisse
>>
>roll a Res/HP Titanis
I wanted my big titty Tiki.
>>
Can I play FEH on multiple devices with 1 linked account?
>>
>>184306365
>the last Iwata Asks he ever did was for Fates
>he basically sat there listening to so many lies Todd would shed a (possibly genuine) tear
>>
>>184306497
>A dancer
I'll kill them all, no matter how many casualties
>>
I love Flora!
>>
>>184306608
>The conflict itself being the most black and white one in the entire series by a mile
And?

It's always been that way
>>
>>184306306
what the actual fuck, is that google translate?
>>
>>184306712
Yes
Orbs will not transfer between iOS and Android though
>>
>>184306608
>Name the continent Fates takes place on.
Obviously it's Archanea/Valentia/Jugdral

I like to headcanon it takes place on the same world as those games.

>>184306639
>>Llyod is 40+3
Damn, that's some dedication. What's his skills?
>>
>>184306545
>I still think that the skinship/fanservicey obsessed portion can deliver a good game as long as they get their shit together
>maybe with this being a proper HD console game it'll be better even if it's by the Fates team

I don't know what in the world would possibly lead you to come to these conclusions. There's not been a single thing so far to suggest this would be the case, and truthfully the track record suggests the opposite would actually be true.

I mean, somehow every single one of the three Fates stories was completely awful, even the one that was the simple franchise staple of "evil dragon starts a war and you defeat him." Awakening was terribly paced and full of plotholes and baffling, illogical elements. And the trend towards the MU being more and more significant to the narrative has arguably done a significant amount to detract from both of those titles in terms of having strong leads.
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>>184306663
Pound her in the butt until she has kids, my anal queen Clarisse.
>>
>>184306748
no, it was just an early version that was rushed
>>
>>184306745
It really hasn't.

Heck, the entire conflict itself is Leonster/Thracia except with any degree of actual nuance taken out.
>>
>>184306608
What are you talking about? Fates isn't even canon
>>
>>184306545
It was half-assed, they went full jew and divided the game in 3 parts, tried to recreate awakening success and tricked fools into believing that conquest is classic FE.
>>
>>184306790
Lloyd was decked out with his base kit with Fury and Vantage, so standard build really.
>>
>>184306587
>>184306610
Damn, I though there'll be lose record.
I just realized Team 1 is default for defensive team. I put 2* Alphonse at there. So embarrassing.
I accepted the friend request though, I have no friend.
>>
>>184306273
Of course they cared you faggot. The budget and manpower was just stretched thin because they had to make three games, enough to outsource parts of the script and the entirety of Revelation to freelance writers.
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>FINALLY rolled an Awakening Summer Unit.

>-ATK/+RES

How fucked am I?
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>1 day left
>5 orbs left
>Pity rate reset yesterday
>still no summer tiki

AHHHHHHHHH
KILL M
WHAT TO DO NOW ?
>>
>>184306748
There's also a funny level-up line from Shura, but I keep forgetting to save it.
>>
>>184306898
Fuck it
>>
>>184306809
>Pound her in the butt until she has kids
>butt
>kids
I don't think you understand biology works, anon.
>>
>>184306893
>Of course they cared you faggot

Yeah, about marketing it.
>>
>>184306745
Nah, interviews and other media insisted it was supposed to be morally grey between both sides and that your choice had a lot of impact.
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>>184306898
Do it, you know you want to
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>>184306823
>Fates is actually just a shitty fanfic Owain made and didn't actually happen
>>
>>184306632
Nope.

>>184306894
Pretty fucked

>>184306898
idk, die? buy orbs?
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>>184306953
You just have to keep pounding as she begs for consensual sex in missionary position with lights off for the sole purpose of pro-creation.
>>
>>184306958
They cared enough about making the game that they reused discarded concepts to make Echoes, you dumb slut.
>>
>>184306894
That's sad, but at least she has Lance Valor to keep/inherit.
>>
>>184306953
You're just not trying hard enough
>>
>>184307041
Damn anna, you a cute!
>>
I just got my Summer Corrin.

+Res/-Attack

Actually fuck this retarded mechanic, fucking hell. It's not funny.
>>
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=64125739
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Alright it's time to play "I don't roll Corrin" again
Let's hope I actually get some blue orbs this time
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>>184306953
>not having assbabies with your wife
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>Floor 9 Thabes
>notice 27SPD Atlas is getting doubled by deathgoyles
>deathgoyles have 31SPD
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>>184307176
I have a bad feeling anon
But I hope you will be okay.
>>
>>184307075
Why lights off? You can't see each other naked.
>>
>>184307165
I know it's not funny, but that's life. At least you got her right?

>>184307176
Keep us posted
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>>184307176
It would almost be better to not roll her than to have >>184307165 happen.

I'm straight up not rolling because I'm scared that that shit could happen to me.
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>>184307085
>They cared enough about making the game

If they cared at all about making the game then extremely basic quality control like Anna's six fingers in >>184307041 wouldn't have gone under the radar.
>>
>>184306543
I have no good cavs to go with Olwen though, and by herself she'll only 0x4.

>>184306721
What's a better composition, then, considering two of my 5* are dancers, and there's also a 4*+3 Olivia?
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>>184307239
Your bad feeling was correct
Which red orb to I open to end tonight's episode
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>>184294675
I am so alpha I have two Deltheas and a lot more
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>>184307176
Don't worry anon, if you run out of orbs: you can always buy some.
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>>184306809
sasuga scatman
>>
Which game do you most want to see remade/redone regardless of how long it's been since the original came out?

For me it'd easily be Radiant Dawn- the game has good elements but also some really blatant flaws like its supports, lack of paired endings, the slowness of the whole game (enemy phase in particular), some of the shittier elements of how it addressed unit availability, the general ugliness of that era's 3D models, etc.

I'd love to see how it would be done with a proper development cycle and hindsight in mind. The foundation map-wise and gameplay-wise is all there and it'd probably be the title to benefit most from an extra pass of polish/production quality like Echoes did, IMO.
>>
>>184307342
Left most.
>>
>>184307342
top center
>>
>>184307342
That gray looks suspicious. I'd go investigate.
>>
>>184307227
Fuck Thabes.
>>
>>184307342
Go bottom-right, Colorless. Less of a chance of getting Leo'd.
>>
>>184307165
-atk is actually serviceable if you give her a blade tome with a full complement of flier buffs, but she won't be very useful outside of flier teams.
>>
>>184307396
Hey, Leo's fine.
>>
>>184307302
Do you have a Nino? Make an all green team with Delthea as your red buster. That should do the job in this blue meta
>>
>>184307443
not really
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>>184307360
>>184307041
Fuck you bitch
And fuck Anna posters
Goddamn if I can send your ass home I would have done it already
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>>184307258
Because she's a good wholesome girl, not some random anal slut.
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>>184305726
The problem with Clair is that it takes a lot of SI to actually take advantage of the handful of things she has over other fliers, namely her res.

I mostly just use her out of favortism, but she's honestly far from bad. It's really nice to have someone to bait mages on a flier team since the good ones have trash res.
>>
>>184306162
Your Saizo is going to alter his battles tremendously once he inherits a Poison Dagger+ and becomes anti-infantry. You're CLEARLY going to have more fun with that instead of an extra +4 MT.
>>
>>184307289
>not liking 6 finger alien anna
Shit taste anon.
>>
>>184307289
And yet it slipped under our radars for almost two years.
>>
>>184307139
Think my Abel is up for the inheritance? He's SPD+/Res-. I also have a Catria with the best nature possible for but she's not fully trained, and neither of them are built yet.
>>
>>184307448
Yes, but she's an incomplete 4* +hp-def, with no Fury.
>>
>>184307492
But seeing each other naked isn't bad.
>>
>>184307585
That's my favorite part.
>>
Why do you guys talk like virgins?
>>
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>>184307470
Don't be rude and cough up the cash, boy~.
You DO want that Femui with perfect IVs, right?
>>
>>184304030
Working on the last 5 chapters bruv
>>184302615
>>184302021
That's a super old build anon, have you played the latest one?
>>
>>184305454
Watching the trailers really is depressing. It looked so promising and they didn't just not live up to the hype, but dragged the hype down and beat it to death with a lead pipe.

Disappointment only grew as I played it. Everyone was just discovering everything and was in the midst of all the hype and here I was just feeling like a jaded asshole because I couldn't find the capacity to join them. Like fuck, I remember when I thought Marx was going to be cool and relevant to the plot. Nope, instead we get the world's most retarded Camus in Birthright and a guy who does next to nothing in Conquest and Revelation aside from fellate the MU like everyone else.
>>
>>184307452
Yes he is. I didn't say he is good as Tharja but good enough to do some decent damage.
>>
>>184307591
It doesn't really matter, give it to anyone you plan on keeping. I'd say Catria is a better bet.
>>
>>184307657
Gee, I sure wonder
>>
>>184306894
Her importance is Lance Valor to farm SP on every lance you'll ever get from now on and being cute. She sucks now, but you'll always use her for training.
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>tfw started the game yesterday and can't get 7 battles in arena before the reset
Is it worth using the duel crest now?
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>>184307662
FUCK YOU SLUT !!
DONT YOU EVER REPLY TO ME AGAIN
>>
>>184307735
You have tomorrow night for another 3 swords.
>>
>>184307735
one is fine, dont worry
>>
>>184307735
You still have another day.
>>
>>184307657
It's OK for girls to be virgins right?
>>
>>184307775
>>184307813
oh nice, thought today was last day
>>
>>184307657
I'm saving myself for marriage.
>>
>>184307165
-Atk is totally fine on Summer Robin, are you kidding? She's Blarblade and bladetomes don't care about -Atk natures. They're nuclear.

+Spd/-Def
+Spd/-Atk
+Res/-Def
+Res/-Atk

Those are her best natures. You're fine. Out of 16+Nuetral natures, you got top 4.
>>
>>184307735
Arena resets Monday evening, you've still got time to get one more set of matches.
>>
>>184307843
Yes, are you a girl?
>>
>>184307865
>marriage
lol as if you nerd
>>
It's so easy to tell what parts of Fates had rushed development, even in the DLCs. Look at the difference in quality between HoF DLC art and the Children/Halloween Scramble CGs for example.
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>>184307759
MaxReplyResDefault.btmp
>>184307657
I am actually not, but wish I still was. Still a virgin at heart. I hope. I guess that's what happens when you do it in 1st+2nd grade and then never do it as an adult.
>>
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>>184294659
>/feg/ is officially nuFE
>>
>>184307165
The only way this isn't a great nature is if you planned on making her a Blarraven+ with TA 3 user.
>>
>>184307848
the timers are kind of odd, they'll say one day left and then the next day is when it counts down the hours
>>
>>184306087
i love her

i can give her hone atk 2 to a ally then use kamui to give draconic aura and hone atk 3 at same time
>>
>>184307975
>19 people
>/feg/
>>
>>184307883
Robin or Corrin?
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>>184307969
Guess there is one way out
I hope you die to bitch
>>
>>184307517
Why Death Blow instead of Darting Blow with that Lance and Speed?
>>
>>184307883
+Res is GOOD? I knew that +Speed was her best, but I would have assumed that +Attack would be her next best. With -Attack, that's 3 damage per attack that she's losing.

And what is +Res helping her survive, anyway?
>>
>>184294760
Someone posted this earlier:
For anyone having trouble with nox/memu/bluestacks, use amiduos. There's a youtube guide out there, but basically just install it, install FEH, open up the game, and once you get to black screen, minimize it, then open it from tray bar. It works with no error codes.
>>
>>184308042
I meant Summer Corrin.
You only want +Atk if you plan on making giving her Blarraven. -Atk is totally fine.
>>
>>184307941
it doesn't matter the Japanese will eat anything intsys shits on their plate. why put in effort when you can hire some cheap hack and still get $$$. Hell, even I'm aware of how fucked the illustrations, maps, and conversations were and I still want those damn DLCs they'll never give us stateside
>>
>>184307975
19 people is hardly a representative sample when there's 131 people here even at this time of night/day. Also removing Mark was an option in the original game, so I don't see why it wouldn't be in the remake, your poll sucks.
>>
how does defense in arena work? can I put in 4 level 1's in a team and let the game sort that out along because I notice every beginner battle I go into have less than level 40 but I don't know if its true.
>>
>>184296130
>Fury
>not L&D
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>>184306497
Arena is strange, I used this team and got 1 defense last week. This week I got 20 defenses.
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I love skinny legs and thighs. I want to FUCK peri
>>
>>184307975
someone should come up with a family simulator in the same style as the Sim aspects of fateswakening and take the nuFE audience while they're bored of echoes
>>
>>184308364
>>184308364
>>184308364
>>
>>184308303
It's not my poll.

>>184308036
>>184308303
>impplying /feg/ isn't just me and (You) posting under 132 different IPs
>>
>>184308134
Corrin is going to inherit Blarblade from Odin. She's nuclear, so long as you have the Hone and Fortify to buff her.
Corrin comes with Swift Strike +4Spd/+4Res on initiation. Along with the +6 Atk/Spd/Def/Res and the potential, that's 40 Res on initiation. She's tanking everything coming at her.
Plus, you throw Iceberg on her and that 20 raw damage coming out every CD 4 (blade tomes +1 CD times).

On defense, she's still got 30-36 Res and as a mage, you care about Res. You can still tank and counterkill juuuuuuuust fine with that setup.

Give your Corrin
Blarblade
Assist
Iceberg
Swift Strike
Desperation or choice
Goad Fliers
>>
>>184308386
>Fates shit
Fuck off
>>
>>184308341
All those merge units and tier 17?

Swap one of your mages for a dancer and make sure one has deseperation/ardent sacrafice to counter hector or any distant counter unit.

Should be simple with a dancer to get a no death run. You got top tier mages for all colors which is amazing.
>>
>>184308341
I should probably try that, with Katarina instead of Celica and a 4* Nino. Though they still need buffs as bladetomes.
>>
>>184308134
She's getting all this attention because she's a FLYING MAGE, anon. Like the Cavalry mages, she now has near exclusive access to a bladetome and Hone/Fortify Fliers+Goad Fliers. Her -Atk nature, with a blarblade (not even +) is still shitting out

(37+6=43)+6+6+6+6 = 67 Raw + 4 if goad applied

On top of 34 (Swift Strike 38) Spd, put her in Desperation range, you're DOUBLING without counterattack 134-142 raw damage. +20 from Icebeg whenever that procs, straight through everything.

She doesn't need the attack, anon. You want Spd to guarantee the most doubles, but after that, you want Res to survive mages.
>>
>>184308989
Iceberg? Moonbow would be better just because 3cd is preferable to 4cd.
>>
>>184308989
>(37+6=43)+6+6+6+6 = 67 Raw
>Raw
Not really, 37 is the Raw value, only skills like fury modify it.
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>>184309815
28 base Attack
+9 MT from Blarblade
+6 from Hone
THEN
+6+6+6+6 Bladetome buff straight to attack on top of already calculated damage
= 67 raw damage ("raw" meaning "uncalculated against enemy Res")
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HOW THE FUCK DO I SKIP THE LEVEL UP ANIMATION IN FEH, HOLY SHIT!
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