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NERFS IN 5 MINUTES

Leader poll results
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/890134639402209281

Maintenance from 7:00 p.m., Jul 30 – 3:00 a.m., Jul 31 (PT). Details.
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=326

Incoming nerfs
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/887244868245798913

New Grand Master rank
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0124

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Old Thread >>184254467
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1st for shadowverse a shit
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You can only post in this thread if you got to Grandmaster.
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>>184280881
>Playing the coinflip game until you get to grandmaster
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>>184280881
>Waited a month
>will be able to get grand master and the august packs at the same time
>meta will be more fun
Get fuckt, Blood nigger.
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Shadownigger
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>>184280881
Only if you got grandmaster without blood
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I absolutely adore Isabelle and her daughters.
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So still no news on the nerf?
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IT'S UP BROS


https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0139
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>already vialed my 4th ouro before this
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
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>removed 3 cards from the game
thanks KMR
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>>184285330
The great equalizer remains, namaste
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Are you guys ready for the ToG meta again?
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rip in piss my JO dragon deck
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>Nerfing Grimnir and Ourobro during Alice Wetdreams time
>Still not nerfing Eachtrash
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Snow White and OURO FUCKING BOROS nerfed
>the Alice of turn 4 concedes and the Eachtar of great defensively and offensively untouched

KMR what the FUCK

holy shit if you were going to nerf a dragon legend for being blatantly overstatted overloaded and stupidly designed... why the FUCK aren't you hitting sibyl instead?

However, I am glad to see Grimnir was finally adjusted properly. The nerf to face damage is fair and overdue.
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Poor Snowwhite. Can't Cygames just make Aegis counterable? The problem here is it's "interactivity", fucking hell. Every other card can be countered somehow except that bs.

No, anon. Even if Kaguya is reliable to counter Aegis, if it is part of the same Aegiscraft it doesn't count.
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Enjoy your Shadownigger meta once more, truly KMR is a genius for nerfing Dragon and Shadow the only two crafts that can do shit against Shadow hahaha ebin simply kek ebin :^^^^^^^)
nice game shadowshitters
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>>184281305
>meta will be more fun
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>>184290259
I meant Haven
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Who else quitting sv?
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>>184292008
me and my mom
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wow baphomet is complete shit now. why didn't they just nerf spawn more?
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>>184292314
Is your mom a MILF? Can I put my chinpo inside her manko?
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>>184292486
Even only removing the enhance that reduces cost would have worked. Now you can't fetch Carabosse/high cost followers playing a non-neutral deck.
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>>184292486
Is there any viable way to play the snakes on turn 8 without guaranteeing your death?
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After seeing the nerfs will you continue playing?
Do you think the next meta will be balanced?
Fun?

https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=336

• The Bloodcraft bronze follower Tove will have this attack, defense, and effect:
Attack: 2 (or 4 when evolved)
Defense: 2 (or 4 when evolved)

• The Bloodcraft legendary follower Spawn of the Abyss will have this effect:
Ambush.
Whenever this follower attacks, deal 5 damage to the enemy leader if Ambush is active for this follower.
Last Words: Deal 5 damage to the enemy leader if Ambush is active for this follower.
(This effect is the same for the evolved and unevolved forms.)

• The Neutral bronze follower Goblin Leader will have this cost, attack, and defense:
Cost: 4
Attack: 2 (or 4 when evolved)
Defense: 3 (or 5 when evolved)


• The Neutral gold follower Grimnir, War Cyclone will have this effect in its unevolved form:
Enhance (10): Deal 1 damage to all enemy followers 4 times.

• The Dragoncraft legendary follower Ouroboros will have this effect:
(Unevolved)
Fanfare: Deal 3 damage to an enemy.
Last Words: Put an Ouroboros into your hand.

• The Havencraft legendary follower Princess Snow White will have this defense in its evolved form:
Defense: 2
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>>184285692
>vialing anything before nerfs
You're a stupid nigger and I don't feel bad for you at all
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Watch and learn, blizzard, this is how you balance your game
*nerfs White Wolf of Eldwood*
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Enjoy Shadowverse.
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>>184292486
Why's that? He still seems perfectly playable as a 2-drop tutor for Phantom Cat, especially if Neutrals become less popular so there's less ping.
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>>184294160
cringe
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>>184292486
Spawn at 10pp + Alice's nerfs would have been perfect but Cygames loves to get shitted on by their playerbase, it seems.
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>4 Abyss
>3 Snow White
>3 Ouro
>8 Grimnir
At least I got vials out of this shit-heap "balance" patch.
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>>184294207
Having everyone play the same neutral shit is already cancerous.
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>dragon is nerfed
okay
>Grimnir is nerfed
FINALLY
>Midrange shadow is untouched
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>Alice is not nerfed
>BkB is not nerfed
>Feria is not nerfed
great nerfs!
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>>184294207
>as a 2-drop tutor for Phantom Cat
Stupid speedreader.
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>>184294301
nice titties
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There was no need to gut Bapho like that. Now Azazel OTK is dead, Maelstrom Serpent is DEAD, Carabosse decks are now super inconsistent. All this so Cygames didn't have to make up for its completely terrible design in Spawn. Also what is the point of Snow White now? Absolutely vialling her to make Eachtars, since OF COURSE he doesn't get addressed.
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Fuck Ouroboros. Glad they nerfed that piece of shit.
>has 3x Ouroboros and zero other dragon legos aside from Forte. I will take my free vials.
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>>184294374
>Now Azazel OTK is dead, Maelstrom Serpent is DEAD, Carabosse decks are now super inconsistent.
Yes. They killed Blood. Enjoy Eachtar meta
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Post vials and next month update nerfs: Eachtar
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>>184294475
they literally only nerfed it because they wanted an excuse for saying legendarieS
both grimnir and ouro were balanced. fuck this garbage game
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>>184280881
>>184294089
I'll be running the same thing for my saha ramp deck
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>>184294595
>grimnir
>balanced
(You)
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>>184294374
You're welcome.
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>>184294368
""wow baphomet is complete shit now. "

Cat and Spawn were about equally oppressive before and now Spawn's been nerfed directly pretty hard, so of course Cat's the one I'm most worried about
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>>184294374
This is why all online card games are inevitably shit.
Magic will always be superior.
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I actually never seen Ouroboros in play after TotG nerfs
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Anyone else really quitting for good this time?
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>>184294426
More like a Fangblade that needs an evolve
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>>184294698
>they barely touched neutralshit
yeah i'm sure most people are
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>>184294374
Oh fuck off. No other class had such a consistent tutor for their most powerful cards and the one time they did (roach forest) they nerfed the card to prevent it, just like they did with Baphomet.

Where's my free BnB tutor for Forest? Where's my Aegis tutor for Haven? Where's shadows Eachtar tutor etc, etc.

The fact that Blood could tutor those cards so reliably enabled a lot of the bullshit of their latest decks. Memes had to die so next time they print powerful cards the Baphomet cancer doesn't enable the bullshit again.
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>Abyss is now worse than Temptress
So why the fuck gut Bap, effectively killing literally every single possible combo and control Blood deck? Why the fuck not nerf tempo cancer like BKB instead of interesting control/combo cards?
>Snow White trades into 2 mana 2/2s
Epic legendary, almost as good as Desert Rider. Just fucking address cancer time instead.
>Nerfing a harmless card like Ouro instead of le overbloated lady of blue waters
Gotta sell those prebuilts!
>Eachtar untouched
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>>184294672
Tove and Gob Leader are dead.
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>spawniggers kill both azazel otk and snek
>both were meme decks that barely worked
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>>184294698
not yet I'll play for a week then decide
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>>184294672
Read the Baph change again, moron. He barely counts as a tutor anymore. He's like that Dragon card but with a different statline.
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>>184294696
t. Non grandmaster
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GRIMNIR LIED TO US, HE SAID HIS POWER WAS UNCONTROLLABLE, LIIIIES
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>every class has been getting nerfed back to back except for Sword
Excluding Standard when was the last time sword every got nerfed huh? This is undeniable proof that we're the most honest craft in the game.
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I just crafted 2 Snow Whites to do my Haven dailies and now I get a full refund a day later?
THANK YOUR KMR
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>replace tove with 2pt 3 removal
>bapho stays for cat fetch
I'm still thinking what to replace leader with though. Angel knight or carrot man.
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>>184294078
hope they brick?
snakes is either autowin or autolose
if they can kill you next turn or clear the snakes you lose
if not you win
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>vialed 2 extra Snow Whites
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>>184294374
>shit decks nobody used are dead

Nobody cares.
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>>184294815
>>184294841
Baphomet dies for Cthulhu sin :'((
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>>184294880
Albert is getting a preemptive nerf next month.
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>>184294880
When they printed mass removals and eachtar.
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>>184294880
>excluding Standard
Sword has never been nerfed.
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>>184294907
No need for them to clear the snakes when you're already in lethal range.
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>>184295006
Honestcraft can't get nerfed.
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>>184294927
>Kept extra Snow White
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free my nigga baphomet, he ain't do shit
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>184294595
Please anon, Grimnir face damage was pure cancer. I lost count how many games were won/lost because of the little shit.
I get what they were trying to do with Ouro, but now Sibyl is the only dragon leggo worth shit (being auto-include should be a dead giveaway) and if ungashitters complain more maybe she will get gutted too.
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>>184294815
>playing a legendary goblin just to control a 3/3 2 drop

I'm glad snow is dead and so is tove. Now I can actually play meaningful amulets on turn 2 and 3.
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justice will get you next month shadowniggers
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Sweet, now buying the dragon prebuilt gets you cute Sibyl art and any legendary of your choice, as well as any gold of your choice as well!
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>>184294898

>cat fetch

You literally cant read.
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>aggrobats still dead due to neutral package

Maybe next month fellow bloodkin.
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>>184294595
snow white and abyss were already plural. ouro was nerfed because he made games longer than 5 minutes. they (i'm not kidding) have a design directive saying games must not go over 5mins.
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how many vials do you get if you liquify an animated leggo that gets nerfed
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>>184295114
Please, come.
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DRAGON GOT KEKED AGAIN

WHY COULDN'T YOU PROTECT HIS SMILE?
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>>184295021
>powercreep=/=nerf
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>>184294672
>Cat and Spawn were about equally oppressive before
Cat is still fucking bullshit but this is just false. Cat had a better winrate in the mirror going second and that's it. Every time I saw Cat on turn 6 instead of Spawn I thanked the heavens
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>>184295206
Goblin Leader was the biggest problem for bats in the match up though.
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>>184295224
3500
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>tfw you can finally tutor for Blood Mary
T-thanks KMR
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>>184295224
just 3500, theres no changes with nerfed animated legendaries, just keep it
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>Aegis is untouched
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>>184295224
Read the fucking nerf announcement.
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I can't think of a situation where Ouro was a problem except in Take Two and versus Sword.
Dragon is auto win versus sword by ramping and playing Ouroboros.
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Can bapho draw another bapho?
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how much ouroboros does a regular ramp dragon run?
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>>184295450
Two.
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>now dragoncucks hatred towards shadow will multiple even more so then when Khawy was introduced
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>>184295450
Usually 2. Sometimes 1. Never 3
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>>184295362
B rank?
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>>184295449
Yes. Thank You.
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>Grimnir won't get nerfed after TOTG
WHO'S LAUGHING NOW NONBELIEVERS
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>nerfing ouro
Nigga what the fuck, this is competely random
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>>184295450
3
Ramp dragons lategame was ouroboro.Not anymore.
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>>184294880
all the board clears released have indirectly nerfed sword.
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>>184295520
Grandmaster. What next, hagfag?
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>>184295450
I had just 1, but some lists people from here gave me had 2
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>>184295449
He is literally this bitch with better stats now.
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>>184295320
>control blood playing any neutral card besides grimnir
She still has no tutor.
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>>184295250
>"I dwell within you."
>tiger cub sounds
>fox sounds
>"Don't even fathom touching me."
>Armor sounds

>"Looks like you won."
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>>184295583
she is super cute evolved
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>>184295551
Reasons why they nerfed ouro
>is a strong cards agains ????
Is like nerfing Luminous or Aeria
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They just left BKB, Scarlet, and Emeralda untouched to sell Belph prebuilts. They know vengeance Blood is back to being the only viable Blood deck when they removed Baphomet from the game.
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>>184295565
D rank?
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>no Feria nerf
>no Alice nerf
>no Eachtar nerf
>no Aegis nerf
>no Slacker nerf
>no Sybil nerf

Just fuck my shit up, Shadowverse. It's like you want another fucking 2 months of Neutralverse and all of these problem cards running around. And I say this as someone abusing the fuck out of Alice/Feria/Slacker and Eachtar.
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>>184295450
1 to 2, it's a stall card to cover your ass while whittle down your enemy, until you draw your wincon like zeus or genny d.
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How soon does update start?
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>ouro nerf
>completely random
Literally D rank central. Because infinite healing is fine right?
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>>184295698
Grand master 16k
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>>184295057
thats what I said.
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>>184295432
Dragon mirror
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>>184295551
>random
No it's not. It's incentive for you to drop the game, take it or leave it.
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>>184295704
>slacker nerf
Beginner rank?
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>>184295751
>implying ouro spam is gonna win you the game everytime
So you've never played dragon?
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>>184295565
why was everyone running 2 then? Also tell me if wyrm godess and dread see will see play
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>>184295551
Its easy to kill and heals dragon man over and over making the game longer for no reason.
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>>184295583
Cards don't exist in a vaccum shit for brains. She's in a class that can have double the mana pool of any other class. Dragon can the 8 mana+ big guy he fetched on 6, Blood now can't, and every none aggro/tempo Blood deck is now back to pure meme tier.
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When is update begin?
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>>184295751
>>184295704

cringe
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>>184295670
they nerfed ouro because it drags the match too long.
>turn 27 and win by deckout
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>>184295874
>>184295750
Kill yourselves.
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Is shadow reaper useful anymore? I'm thinking of vialing it before the vial change is undone.
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>"t. D rank" posters are back
REMINDER
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>>184295904
So is an unga thing? okay
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>>184295962

plz, I cant find times, the times in OP dont make sense
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>>184295565
storm ramp ran 3 last time I remembered
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>>184295720
If i'm sure i already win i keep replaying ouro over and over again despite having zeus and genesis just to trigger my opponent
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>tfw dragon went from meme unstable mess to playable to tier 1 then back to playable then back to meme unstable mess
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>neutral shit is still unnerfed
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DIED FOR WATER WHORE'S SINS
F
http://usamin.love/card/ouroboros/j_death.wav
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>>184295904
The only wins by decking out I had when playing Dragon were against Elana.
By the time Ouro battles started I had Odin or just went face with Genesis
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>>184295965
Just vial it and if the upcoming Shadow decks run it craft it again. No reason not to get those vials.
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>>184295993
D rank?
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>>184296082
don't you dare to badmouth sybil you fag
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>>184295873
>Dragon kill Cblood before Spawn nerfs
RIP blood
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>>184296065

That was before Zell got nerfed retardo
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Talking about nerfs

>Blood nerfs
Tove becomes unusable, Baphomet becomes HEAR THE DRAGON ROAR, spawn is not a threat anymore, you can still use Bander to fetch it but it is not really useful with only 5 guarantee face damage.

HOWEVER, blood is not fully dead yet. If they really want to adjust the first and second winrate disparity they should nerf BKB because it is one of the culprit that caused blood to has high first winrate and low second winrate.

>Neutral nerf
Only Gobbo leader is touched. I personally think they shouldn't even change him at all, but I guess making him 4PP will contest Alice's turn. Since the major nuisance is somewhat eliminated so they don't have to nerf Alice anymore
>REEEEE WHY IS FERIA NOT NERFED
Go eat shit you fucking imbecile. She needs an evo point to be useful. Lyrial should be nerfed too amirite xD ?

>Dragon nerf
The best nerf package I've seen.
>Ouroboros
Now you don't have to worry about killing that son of the bitch again
>Grimnir
The nerf I've suggested since ToG. Good nerf. Want to make him unplayable? Remove the ward.
>REEEEEEE WHAT ABOUT SYBIL
It is fine and I don't even play dragon. A decent body with heal and ramp, but nothing more than that. Just remember to kill her instead of going face everytime

>Haven nerf
Not enough. I repeat, NOT ENOUGH. Tea time + Garuda is super broken. Storm will be at the top and due to the mulligan difficulties, Elana will see play and become even more cancerous than in DE. They should also change that
>Teatime becomes 7PP
No way in hell an amulet than summon a 5PP follower as a fanfare should cost 5.
>A character at full health should not be able to heal
So that Elana will be the true chemo against unga but weak against control, not the current one a.k.a. can beat any deck with the nut draw.
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>>184285330
>>184294089
Cygames employees are literally the shitposters of this thread. I'm gonna say this again; It's too -away too obvious. Ramp Dragon, really? Again this bullshit, and the emphasis, I'll say this gain, makes it too obvious. That's basically the same retarded from this thread trying to trigger non-retarded people with his intern powers.
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>>184296105
But one of them is animated.
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>>184296082
He didn't die.
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>>184294583
I still think they shouldnt refund the tier 1 legos. Make the bandwagonners pay
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Dirt rune will be fucking amazing.
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>>184296082
He died because Cygames is trying to make all games last 1 attosecond. Anything longer than that is way too long. Their ideal game is flipping a coin and deciding the winner.
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>>184295565
Literally nobody plays 3 Ouro.
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>>184295856
>why was everyone running 2 then?
You never add 3 of something you only want to see once per match unless your deck absolutely depends on it
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So nerfs happened and might give this gamea try again, didn't played since RoB so inb4
>shadownigger etc
But the game was generous enough to give me 3 Echtar from free packs, yet still 0 wonderland legos
My question is: Is Shadow actually going to be decent for trying climbing up to Grand Memes Masters rank or it's some anons escalating things with "Enjoy shadowcancer again"?
Also, Rune seems to have some funny burn now and i wonder if crafting Oz is worth, only 20k vials
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>>184296218
Right, he returns back into your hand.
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>>184295815
>not realizing the potential of a very hard to deal with creature that buffs all of your followers on attack

What are you, retarded or something?
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>>184294880
>literally the cancer that started killing the game
>honest craft
literally fuck off
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>>184296070
It depends, if your opponent has banish or transform, ouro's fucked anyway. Only sword is hardest fucked wkth ouro. Blood and shadow are too fast or too many.
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Plz, anons what time is update?
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>>184296218
you're right
he got banished
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>>184296169
Who the fuck are you, imbecile?
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>>184295583
Her feets seems delicious.
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>>184296169
Spawn still has Urd combos and shit, he's fine.
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>>184296190
If you like animated cards there's almost no reason ever to vial them desu. 200 vials isn't really that big a deal. Just vial the normal ones.
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>>184296082
he will be missed
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>>184280881
>been playing since launch
>still B3
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will elf be good now?
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>>184296280
>Ephemera

>My question is: Is Shadow actually going to be decent for trying climbing up to Grand Memes Masters rank or it's some anons escalating things with "Enjoy shadowcancer again"?
Midshadow is the second best deck right now and it not only escaped nerfs but also had both of its main counters nerfed.
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>>184296227
good way to kill your playerbase and income
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>>184296356
>8PP
>Urd combo
You're dead
>>
Did everyone forget Bandersnatch exists or something? Cblood will be fine. Cat aggro will run without baphomet, tove, or leader and still be viable. Carabosse will likely switch to a vengeance build to just try to draw into her. Azazel is only one who got truly fucked, but I haven't seen the deck since ToG anyway.
>snek
was never good to begin with.
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>>184296402
>Neutral nerfed

Not really.
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>>184296169
>Hates haven and dragon
I wonder which craft you main...... hmmm.......
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>hagfags crying about snow white when elana is still broken

Fuck off already
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>>184295432
That's probably why they nerfed it. Blood had no good way to deal with it either unless they went fast enough. Dragon doesn't have good ways either since nobody uses Lightning Blast anymore. Mirror matches turned into who could ramp faster and play Ouroboros until someone ran out of removal.
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>>184296467
>carabosse
>vengeance blood
stop
you've never played blood
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>>184296467
They didn't hit Shadow that much with nerfs only to be contrary to people as well. The fucker is a retarded shitposter.
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>>184296306
Yeah, Banner is scary.
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>>184295873
They both do the exact same shit retard, and 2/1 is better than 1/2 don't you think? What you're trying to say is irrelevant and my point stands.
Thank you.
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>>184296424
>>Ephemera
Whats the problem with her?
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Best pack yet :)
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>>184294880

It's proof that nobody wants to play Sword except for people that are too dumb to boost its winrates.
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>>184296529
A rank?
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>>184296306
>4 mana do nothing
>good
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>>184296504
Storm haven is ok. Elana is not because it cannot be countered other than by themselves. However 5PP amulet that summons 2 5PP followers make no sense at all.

Dragon is fine too except for Ouroboros. I even want lightning blast to be unnerfed. Grimnir is another monster in itself.
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>they actually nerfed ouroboros
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>>184296461
I do it all the time with my current Cblood deck. It's really nothing out of ordinary.
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>>184296467
>Cblood will be fine
Cblood is T4 right now
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>>184296467
bandersnatch is problematic because he has to die while having 5 defense.
>>
/svg/ is shit as always, but the comedy it produces during times like this almost justifies it continuing to exist.
Enjoy your two months of Neutral Aggro and Mid-Shadow meta though.
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>>184296724
Elana has almost 0 good match ups you fucking D rank.
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>>184296757
It's okay anon, everyone hates Dragon but I still like my man Rowen
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>>184296724
>However 5PP amulet that summons 2 5PP followers make no sense at all.
Its a 5pp 6 face damage 10/12
What is there to not make sense about
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>>184296824
>Neutral Aggro
They nerfed it

>Mid-Shadow
Don't you like it? It is shadow's turn! Remember the 6 billion banishes!
>>
Dusting my Snow Whites for Eachtar. Literally no reason not to given MidShadow is completely untouched.
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>>184295432
>>184296532
Man, what Ouro have to do with Ramp? Cygames has brain problems. Ramp Dragon? Ouro isn't fucking Ramp it's just a card. Cygames is always wrong with nomenclature. Their data relating to Dragon has the same issue that Rune has now, this is fucking shady as fuck.

KILL YOURSELVES RETARDS
GET FUCKING OUT FROM THIS GENERAL
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>>184296467
>11 mana 2 card combo for 5 damage in a deck with no wincon
L
M
A
O

Just fucking use Temptress Vampire if you need the 5 damage that badly. CBlood is literally the worst deck in the game. A fucking pure neutral deck with nothing, but on curve plays will do better than that brick factory.
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>>184296724
But one of my favorite past times is Bahamut'ing Elana.
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87678

need a concede for a daily
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>>184296757
Now your 5D chess mirror matches end early. Good for you Rowen
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>>184296614
You are like a little baby
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>>184294089
SHADOW BIAS
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>>184296917
>They nerfed it
Yeah, just like how they nerfed shadow back in ToG, right?
>>
DEAD FUCKING GAME
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>>184296842
>0 good match up
>while still people are playing it
>in master
>and with success

Guess who is the D rank here.
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>>184280197
Why is isabelle so perfect?
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>>184296824
The comedy is trying to figure out what retarded bucktoothed Nipponese monkey they have in charge of making balance decisions.
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>>184296934
Face dragon doesnt run ouroboro
Discard doesnt run ouroboro
Neutral dragon doesnt run ouroboro
Ramp dragon does run a full package of ouroboro and allowers them to single handedly dominate lategame vs everything
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>>184296724
The only problem of Elana decks is consistency but when they have the high ground is impossible to recover. Tenko is such a bullshit card.
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Thanks Cygames now I can preorder Knights of the Frozen Throne with no doubt
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>tfw can't play LauraSpawn anymore
T-thanks Cygames
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Bow down to your new panty-flashing overlord
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>>184297038
My mos said that she is really big
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>>184296991
They didn't nerf Eachtar in ToG.
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>>184296187
I can't be the only one to notice this shit.
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>>184297038
Because widow milfs are the best.
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>tfw don't even know what I should craft
Nep I guess, right?
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>>184297113
but thats a boi anon
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>start playing when darkness came out
>stop playing for some months
>now there's a shit ton of new cards

Am I gonna get rekt?
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>>184294360
why is alice not nerfed?
what's going on here?
>>
>piercing rune nerf wont change anything
>WD will not change the meta
>spawn of the abyss is a meme card

Can't wait for you to be wrong again.
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>>184296724
Elana gets countered by Bahamut and Dshift. Seraph and Aegis will beat it too unless you have counters or Aegis yourself.
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play dreadshift
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>>184297194
even better
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>>184297217
>nerfing expansion Mascot
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>>184296467
Snakes are a better deck than Azazel and Cara bats.
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MEMEY CARD
ONCE YOU ACTUALLY PLAY IT
YOU REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT AS SUPER STRONG AS YOU EXPECTED IT TO BE
>>
>crafted 2 Alice
I WANT REFUND
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>>184297083
Exactly this. Which is why I suggest to change it so that character at full health cannot to be healed. Then Elana will be super good against aggro while control actually stand a chance to kill it.
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>shadow can board flood, rush and give +2/+0 with 7pp
>dragon can use a demonic strike with 8 pp

What the FUCK dragonbros?
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>>184297194

Falise is a cute girl (male). I would suck her dick.
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>>184297318
the expansion mascot is cancer
oh wait, i get it
>>
And I was thinking of crafting spawn
Glad I stopped playing
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>>184297228
Who claimed the meta isn't going to change? Everyone who's not retard knows it just devolves back into everyone playing shadow again.
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>>184297240
why would i win on turn 10 when i can win on turn 6
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>>184297369
Ramp tax is back
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>>184297337

>"meme"
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>>184297369

Dragon is at 8PP on turn 5 or 6, easily.
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>>184297212
Not really
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>>184297369
The real problem is that they didn't nerf Eachtar. Even make it so that each zombie cost 4 shadows as a symbolic nerf will calm my heart.
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>>184297070
Everything? Why Dragon isn't tier 0 then? Rune shit all over Ouro so does every Aggro curve to ever exist in this shit game. Got a problem with Ouro? Do the same thing we all did with SERAPH TECH FUCKING ODIN THEN TURN 4 KILL BABS
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>>184297490
not when you're trying NOT to die from neutral cancer
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>>184297369
Go away, healbot
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tfw kel decks will never be meta
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>>184280197
>>184297038
you know someone is a goddess when it gets drawn by a god 2 times
>>
Did they ever buff a card before

I think the game can use some
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>>184297212
>DE
God, I miss that meta so much. It's gotten a lot worse now. We got otohime + sage commander in one card, and it's ten times better. So much shit to name, but you'll uninstall the game again soon.
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>>184297452
You're retarded but I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you're merely pretending and want (You)s
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>>184297194
>>184297387
fuck off mentally ill faggots
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>>184297369
grimnir was actually also a staple for Dragoncraft
Ramping to this card was crucial
Basically, now there is no point in playing this craft untill next expansion.
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>>184297568
Yes, its called printing better cards.
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>>184297568
there a several reasons why buffing cards is a terrible idea
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>>184297568
I am thinking of some unnerfs. Like homecoming and harvest festival.
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Why the flying fuck was Ouro nerfed? Did Cygames forget that Odin exists?
>>
>ramp apologists ITT
LB NERF WAS UNFAIR BROS
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Welcome to the club, dragon boi.

Arisa is waiting us.
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>>184297637
You can still wipe with grimnir, just doesn't deal damage to face
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>>184297568
has why digital tcg directly buffed cards before? It didn't make any sense to do honestly.
>>
What legends do I need for a Dragon deck now that Ouro is getting nerfed? Was thinking of either building Dragon or Midshadow (or maybe Dirt Rune) - I only have 1 Eachtar, and no Dragon legends, though.
Have 50k vials or so.
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>>184297532
But don't you understand, you won't have to deal with that anymore now that they nerfed uhhhhhhhhhh... Goblin Leader! Neutral is completely fucking destroyed by that one card change!
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>>184294307
fucking bandwagoner you are lucky cygames aren't kikes
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>>184297581
You have short memory. Elana, Seraph, PtP and D-shift were as cancerous to play against as current Midshadow and Neutral.
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>>184297680
>Odin

If Odin is actually viable then no one will have a problem with haven.
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>>184297668
I think they can start giving minor buffs to standard pack cards that NEVER get any use
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>>184297741
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i felt bad about snow white but remember chemobros thanks to her aegis is still safe, her sacrifice will never be forgotten

F
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Luna is love, Luna is life.
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>>184297687
FUCKING CYGAMES CAN'T BALANCE FOR SHIT EITHER. TRYING TO HARD TO FOLLOW THE BLIZZARD PATH. GIVE ME BACK MY LIGHTNING BLAST AND SAHABAHA ZELL COMBO NOW.
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>>184297756
Wait for the cnages
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>>184297806
it doesn't damage your board tho
>>
Cygames treat this game as their personal game. They don't give a shit about balance or the people playing this unhealthy game. Favoritism in this garbage is like their motto. "Cygames" don't fool anyone.
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>>184297741
>wasting 10pp instead of conflag
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>>184297680
Who the fuck runs Odin in this super aggressive meta?
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>>184297697
We're waiting. We're watching. One day, we will return.
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>>184297787
I mean, I remember those but I couldn't compare them to the current cancer. Maybe tempo forest to neutral.
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>>184297854
Ramp doesn't care about that shit tho
>>
So should I vial the nerfed cards or workout with them somehow?
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>>184297763
>shit I pulled from packs
>bandwagoning
The only thing I crafted this expansion was Forest cards and nothing could ever cuck me more than the return investment I got on those
>>
Post-nerf WD meta will be Haven>Shadow>Rune>Blood>Dragon>Forest>Sword
people are overreacting to the snow white nerf desu
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>>184297741
>10pp grimnir wipe instead of bahamut

i guess if you're afraid of a storm finish
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>>184297240
>Don't have all three of my "combo" by turn 10
>Lose
runebabs?
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>>184297787
>no sword
hmmm i wonder whos behind this post
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>>184297838
Dude read that nerf update again, it is some butthurt from here meming the shit out.
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>>184297867
Post your version of honest nerfs.
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>>184294089
yes, i only play arena after all
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>they actually thought face of the expansion would get nerfed
LMAO
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I won't be satisfied until neutral shit is put into the fucking dirt

Alice should be 3/3->5/5 and not buff your fucking hand but only the neutrals on board and actress slut should only buff one neutral
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We still have one weapon in our hands brother
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>>184297876
>no friendly damage
>protect your face from albert or other storm
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Alright here it is faggots, hot take
Tier 1
Midrange Shadow
Tier 2
Dirt Rune, Storm Haven, Aegis Haven, Kys Blood, Neet Shadow
Tier 3
N Sword, Storm Ramp, Cat Blood, Seraph Haven
Tier 4
Anything with neutral in it, DShift
Tier 5
Control Blood
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>>184297589
>predicted TotG nerfs doing nothing
>predicted Blood top cancer in WD
I want to hear your retarded prediction so I can screencap it. I've literally never been wrong on meta predictions yet
>>
are you fucking ready for cock?
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>>184298108
>Neet Shadow
Kill yourself.
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>>184297957
No one gives a fuck about Oro. Dragon shits on Rune
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>>184298020
Why, to feed your sadism?
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>>184298149
>replying to animeposters
im not sure whos dumber here
thread will turn ugly soon, im out
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>>184297697

>thinks sword is dead

>when it's clearly the most viable neutral deck after nerfs
>>
Anyone know where Kimura lives?
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>>184296945
thx nigga
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>>184298126
>Sword in Shadow meta
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>>184298108
>Obobobo nerf killed ramp
This is delusional.
>>
>>184296824
I think it should be 4 shadow per zombie AND THEN 1 extra shadow per rush and +2/0 for followers that were already on the board. He will be more shadow dependant and no more free extra damage if they have a board before drop it.
>>
>Craft three alices
>She's not nerfed
I am conflicted
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>only getting like 3 thousand vials out of this nerf
Poor performance.
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>>184298149
I wanted to specify it was just Aggro Shadow but with Slacker in it
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Can I have a concede?
21062
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>>184298126

Are you ready for Maisy to kill everything?
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Is snow white trash now
>>
Snow White safe to vial right?
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>>184297913
Only old deck comparable to neutral blood today was PtP during standard. People talk about DE fondly but they forget Dragon and Shadow were awful during it while Rune and Blood were stuck in only one archetype.
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Reminder that only Reddit likes the changes. If you approve of Cygame's incompetency then you belong to reddit.
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>>184298357
youre trash
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>>184298149

>Not believing that Funemployment is the best!
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>>184298287
You can still flood board with shit and buff it, you know
>>
im ready for dirt burn
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>>184298108
You are retarded.
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>>184298289
Grimnir not hitting face is more important
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>>184298390
You have no reason not to vial everything that got nerfed, retard. You can just recraft them later if you need them.
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it might be time to return to multiplayer
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>>184297976
>what's board-clear redundancy
He's there to give you as many board-clears as possible, and he's a ward to save you from storm-shit. He's still going to be used in Dragon because his clear is good and dragon doesn't have a lot else to use right now. He might be dropped in later expansions but right now his clear is too good to pass up.
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>>184285330
MOMMMMM

That has to be someone from here. I almost puked reading that amateurish text.
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>>184298406
>redditor
Fuck off
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>>184298498
>He's still going to be used in Dragon
no sane person going to play this shit
dragon is dead
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>>184298427
So can they, and much more effectively than you. Their win-button also comes down 2 turns earlier.
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>>184298406
How many votes? And of course leddit loves it, they were the most vocal about Snow
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>>184298406
If you still play this game you should kill yourself
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Play midshadow, I dare you.
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>>184298305
Thanks! Ouroboros will always be in ours hearts anon
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>>184298213
sword is fucking trash it still doesn't have an aoe clearer

control sword gets fucked by baha

regular agro sword lacks drawing

pepe is a meme

neutral sword is just a regular neutral deck with 1 or 2 sword cards that don't change the gameplay much
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>>184298448
I wanted an actual counterargument though
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>>184298621
is she naked
>>
should I get the 80 dollar crystal deal bros
>>
Then they should make Snow White initial stat 2/2 and remain that stat upon evolving
>>
Cygames literally shitposts here. I can't believe. That's exactly how they show how mad they got after being called out of their memes. "Then you will see bahh"
>>
How good/bad Nep against Haven? I need to be prepare for new meta
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>>184298498
>keep board clearing after turn 10

adjust your deck
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>>184298716
Yes
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>>184298630
CoCK and Albert are one or two Sword cards that can change the game.
>>
>(incompetent management)
Thank You.
>>
>>184298593
this
>>
So, which new prebuilts are worth getting? I'm considering getting the dragon and shadow ones right now, but not sure about the other ones.
>>
>>184298630
forest is fucking trash it still doesn't have an aoe clearer

tempo forest gets fucked by everyone

regular otk sword lacks drawing

control is a meme

neutral sword is just a regular neutral deck with 1 or 2 forest cards that don't change the gameplay much
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>snow white is worse than a regular 2 drop now
>ouroboros is a literal demonic strike for double the pp
>spawn is a turn 8 do nothing dead drop
>grimnir has become completely useless
>eachtar still board flooding, rushing and buffing all in one sweep

olololol

guess which craft will dominate ladder again?
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Why is the thread so fast?
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>>184298716
>>184298798
>giving money to KMR
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>>184298765
>I have never once played a game against midrange shadow in my entire life the post
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>>184298607
1.7k
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>>184298716
Yeah, and dump all of it to WD packs and hope for some snow whites and spawns for the ultimate value you goy. You'll be drowning in vials.
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Alright, you shitters, it's time to voice your opinions on the changes in a poll.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13573329
http://www.strawpoll.me/13573329
http://www.strawpoll.me/13573329
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>>184298798
Haven and Shadow are best.
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Is bannermeme still a thing?
It was the only solid deck I could play back in my days.
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>>184298764
good if you are going for the cat neutral agro blood deck
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>>184298706
maybe
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>Pulled a 4th Snow White from my packs
>Never expected her to be the one nerfed
Hahahaha thanks for the free legendary, Cygames! I think I'll craft a 3rd Eachtar now since they still won't nerf him.
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DRAGON IS NOT RELEVANT
STOP
FALLING
FOR
IT
FUCKING
SHEEP
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>preemptive snow white nerf
What the. Has snow white been dominating that hard? it's an okay card, i thought
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>>184298835
grimnir is not going to do shit against a turn 7 echtar

just be smarter with your salamanders
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>>184298902
Tier 7.
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>>184298902
It's not even a deck anymore.
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>>184298798
heaven is shyt

get shadow and forest since ancient elf and roach is obligatory in every forest deck

mordecai and cerberus are great for a nep or midrange/agro deck
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>>184297563
If tomohiro kai made an isabelle doujin I dont think id fap to anything else ever again
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I actually think one of the reasons they didn't nerf Eachtar is because Rune can deal with them with Mutagenic and Caprice.
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Also, Bloodcraft is currently alone in its issue of having win rates that are significantly higher when going first than when going second. Some classes and deck types inevitably have an advantage when playing first or second, but game balance is negatively affected if this tendency becomes too pronounced: the outcome of matches can more easily end up becoming a matter of luck.
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>>184298937
It's not. I'm a haven player and I think that card is like Tove without the neutral "drawback". I'm not surprised at all that she got nerfed. Why should Tove be considered cancerous when Snow White is the exact same shit? A 2-drop shouldn't have 3 hp AND 2 attack.
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>>184298937
It was a 2pp card that can kill 2/3s and leave a body, before getting to other flexible plays it opens up.

Whether it pushed Haven too much is debatable but in a vacuum it's above curve.
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>>184298937
They want to nerf anything that helps Aegis while not touching Aegis itself.
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>>184299116
Are you retarded? They can do the same with OURO
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>>184298798
ignore shadowniggers who complain about haven

always do the opposite of what a shadownigger says
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>>184299116
>leaving board presence to be buffed by eachtar
Are you fucking retarded?
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>Eachtar not nerfed
>Shadow counters nerfed
>KMR's waifu is a Shadow card
I guess we know what he mains.
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>>184297987
>he cant stall past turn 10
brainlet detected
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>>184299186
It's like Eachtar all over again
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>>184298630

Except Neutral has le balanced Rabbit of infinite draw power
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>>184299227
>Shadow counters nerfed
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>>184299201
>>184299210
Sorry I clicked Post to soon, I meant to add Levi.
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>>184299116
>Rune plays Mutagen on Eachtar and his 3 pals
>take 4 damage
>second Eachtar makes the rats do 12 damage
Nice counter dude!
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>>184299281
Haven and Dragon.
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>>184299116
FUCK OFF CYGAMES

GET OUT OF THIS THREAD
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So basically, even with all of these nerfs, neutral cancer will still reign supreme, eh?
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>>184299227
>>184298863

These balance changes are fine. Leaving Kektar alone but nerfing all his counters was fine.
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I expect Reapers to enter Shadow decks again
Glad I didn't nerf mine
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>>184299116
>gets mutagenic on your 4 minions
>play echtar
>next turn 12 damage to the face + 4 damage from the rats

good try shadownigger
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>>184299186
snow white isn't even the problem. it's the fact that you have to do 30+ damage before turn 9 while your shit gets killed every turn or else you lose.
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>>184299319
Rune is chemo for Midrange
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>hmm aegis is dominating the game after neutral blood
>I know! I'll nerf snow white! That will keep those aegis decks in place.

Legitimate question, Is KMR retarded?
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>>184299353
>Glad I didn't nerf mine
?
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>opponent plays a 2/2
>play Snow White
>all she can do is crash into it and double KO

Better off just playing Mainyu or something now. At least that can't be killed by stuff like BKB and Scarlet.
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>SEVEN (7) cards nerfed in one swoop
Jesus, that seems like a lot. How does it compare against HS nerfs?
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>>184299227
Shadow counters didn't exist. They nerfed the best peforming against shadow. Forest and Sword are already dumpster tier, no need to be 'preemptive'. Surprised they didn't completely obliterate Rune since it actually stands a tiny chance against petcraft.
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>>184299353
If you had burnt your Reapers you could just craft them again when you need them.
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>>184299341
You misspelled Midshadow
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>>184299341
Oh man. At least now we know Discord works for Cygames.
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>>184299275
Which is alright because Sword has no other source of drawing.
>>184299410
Vial, I meant
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>>184298593
nah
without prince and reaper shadow has a weak early game, that's why most of WoD decks basically runs a ton of removals and draw
this is going to be interesting
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How did they not nerf Alice? Did they see the garbage happening with neutrals everywhere and say, "this is perfect, this is what we envisioned"? Everyone's playing the same exact cards. 1-2-3 alice
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>>184299337
>Ouro is nerfed
>hurr Dragon is dead
They don't even run full set of Ouro. Hell some of grandmasters use only 1
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>>184299186
They've just shown they're not afraid of nerfing prebuilt legendaries, plus Snow White's a newer card they'd likely prefer to promote for the meta. And she is a bigger deal as she solved a lot of Haven's early game and often trading against 2 opponent cards
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>>184299405
If he's retarded, and you're playing the game he works on, then you're double retarded
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>>184299417
any 2pp is better than snowhite now
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>>184299457
>tier 3 deck at 2% playrate
>reigning over anything but Drank
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>>184299353
You realize you lose literally nothing for vialing Reaper, right?
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>Tin soldier is a 5PP follower
>Teatime is a 5PP amulet that summons a 5PP follower as a fanfare and another 5PP follower as the last word

Who the fuck thought that "Ok, that seems reasonable" and release this card?
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>>184299405
Just kill them before then 9 bro
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>>184299497
>this is what we envisioned
Yes, easy and fast for salarymen to enjoy
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I regret vialing my Erasmus now
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on the off chance anyone needs the achievment here for private games - 86009
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>>184299487
>Which is alright because Sword has no other source of drawing.

I'm just saying Rabbit is why Neutral sword is good. And also le balanced 2 drop of destroy literally anything for an EVO point.
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>>184299428
I don't even think HS has nerfed anything recently, they stuck a few things into their "hall of fame" thing though
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>>184299405
>KMR retarded
People working on those nerfs are a few MTG? discord shitposters from this general. They do that only to be contrary to common sense and get people triggered.
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>wake up for blood and maybe shadow nerfs
>get blood and dragon nerfs
Is there even a single good dragoncraft card left after this? It seems the entire ToG dragoncraft was a mistake.
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>>184299598
cringe
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>swap Tove for Unica or Sektor or some shit
>swap Goblin Leader for Repunzel
>Cat Blood is the exact same
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>>184299628
explain
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>>184299540
The Grimnir nerf is the significant part, retard. Now Grimnir is just a Conflag on a body, when he was insanely important for reach.
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>>184299632
rabbit should be lego instad of cinderella
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>>184299027
What about the new prebuilts, anon?
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>Mid shadow won't be t1 cause reaper got nerfed
I've actually seen people imply/say this.
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>>184299540
Cygames always reflect to Dragon and make up all the rest.
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>>184299598
get a load of this guy
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>>184299709
Grimnir still kills the board retard.
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>>184299497
> Everyone's playing the same exact cards. 1-2-3 alice
I'm fucking sick of retard spouting this meme.
Best shadow deck is not neutral.
Best haven deck is not neutral.
Best rune deck is not neutral.
Best dragon deck is not neutral.
Guess which craft other than blood that rely on neutral the most? Forest and Sword. Completely killing neutral will make both Forest and Sword worse than now. Just shut the fuck up if you barely play the game.
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>>184299574
>second most played tournament deck
>fourth most played ladder deck
>positive against almost everything
>tier 3
Shadowniggers get worse everyday.
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>>184299417
That's what I'm trying to say. They should compensate her by making her unevolved 2/2 and evolved 2/2.
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>>184299598
(you)
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>>184299773
Yeah. I think most of the thread was upset that Eachtar dodged a nerf twice. Well, three times now.
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>>184299829
Shadowlog and game-ai claim otherwise. Even cygames own numbers completely shit on your claims
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>>184299645
>Is there even a single good dragoncraft card left after this
The one that needed a nerf the most, ironically.
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>>184299637
Didn't they nerf the Rogue Quest?

>>184299794
>reading comprehension
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>>184299545
>They've just shown they're not afraid of nerfing prebuilt legendaries
Which prebuilt legendary did they nerf?
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>>184299660
>swap 2 gobs for rapunzel

sounds great, rahab
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>>184299735

She should have. Rabbit is so much stronger in every way. It's basically 3 mana stratagem with an on curve body.
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Remember how Dragoncucks cried about LB and Zell nerf? Feel no pity for them. Ramp is cancer.
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>>184299545
It seems like both of their 2PP legendaries this expansion were a bust. Snow White turned out better than they thought while Fairy Dragon is super garbage.
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>>184299975
t.unga
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>>184295449
Oh god I can't stop laughing, I already thought Jabberwock into Jabberwock was pretty damn hilarious, I feel bad for Phantom Cat neutrals.
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How's this for a post-nerf deck?
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>>184299975
cringe
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>>184299829
>only craft that has 50%+ winrate along with blood
Better dismiss this and be preemptive about dragon :)
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>>184299709
FUCKING RETARD NEWFAG
DO YOU KNOW WHAT CRAFT BENEFITS FROM THE GRIMMIR NERF AND ISN'T AFFECTED? TAKE A GUESS
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>>184299919
Which is?
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>>184299931
OH yeah true, completely forgot about that, I stopped playing pretty soon after un'goro dropped

Can't deal with all the discover shit in that game
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Question, are there really that many people complaining about Eachtar Shadow or is that just a minority?
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>>184299598
Take a guess.
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>>184299975
I wonder whos behind this post
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>>184300025
>wardrobe raider instead of righteous devil
>imp in a nonvengeance deck
>no vampiric kiss
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I just went on a 7 win streak with PTP Forest. Is this the power of being rank A3?
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>>184299916
Shadowlog is literally where he got 2 out of his 3 points. Also https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/jcg-open-2nd-season-vol62-64-65-top-4-deck-lists
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>>184300025
pretty awful it has shadowverse cards in it

drop this dead fucking game my man
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>>184299829
you should re think
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>>184300031
>sword
I fucking knew it. The only craft in the game that cannot heal would love the removal of grimnir
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>>184299975
Shadownigger pls

>>184300080
Get the hell out cygames.
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Friendly reminder that no Sword card has ever been nerfed.
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>>184300052
B rank? You have to be B3 at best for seriously asking this question.
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>>184300080
There will be soon.
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>>184300080
Eachtar is still one of the best cards in the game. He basically does everything you want in a card besides heal or draw more cards.
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>>184299975
i second this ramp was fucking cancer the only other control deck that exist besides dragon was heaven because of aegis

now thats a fucking great card game with only 2 control decks right?

ramp should stay dead and never come back
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>>184300080
Judging by >>184298863 I'd say that there's a lot of this going around. Personally I think the meta shift will keep Eachtar decks grounded.
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>>184300221
Cause sword is the most honest craft.
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Holy fug never realized how thick belph is
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>>184300080
echtar is a weak card

haven player, btw
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>>184300183
>>184300017
>>184300027
>>184300094
Just look at this. Same people defend LB.
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>>184300221
True honestcraft.
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>>184300182
Nice try shadownigger
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>184299598
is this place really a shadowbab safespace?
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>>184300163
back to /hsg/ you go.
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>>184300227
No but I haven't played a single match in WoD.
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>>184300221
I joined around the release of Tempest, what were harvest festival and piercing rune originally?
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Did anyone have pict of that garuda bitching about elana, eris is not my leader praise garuda?
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How are nips taking it anyway?
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>>184300221
This is wrong. Gobu mage should be in forest, test of strength should be in haven, grimnir should be in dragon and goblin leader should be in blood.
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>>184300323
i pity u
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Is Snow White actually vial-tier or actually keep-tier?
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>>184300239
>>184300254
Stop replying to Cygames'.
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Uninstall.exe pact when
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>>184300426
>harvest festival
2pp
>piercing rune
1pp on evolve
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First person to give me a concede gets to do whatever they want to Lyrial.

48206
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Whats this thing about Cygames browsing /svg/ and shit? I've been away this current meta and thinking of playing a bit again.
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>>184300426
Harvest used to cost 2PP instead of 4PP, rune was originally 4PP->1PP when follower evolves.
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>>184300025
bloody mary + dire bond is a meme

remove diabolic drain add 2 dod

change bloody mary and direbond for baphomet and vamparic kiss
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>>184300432
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>>184300313
Shadow player here. I think Eachtar is too strong and will need a nerf, but I think it's fine that it didn't happen right here. He's carrying an otherwise weak deck at the moment, and while I think Midshadow will be tier 1, I don't think it'll be oppressive.

I'd like to see him nerfed before the new set like Reaper was. Shadow needs to have power moved away from him and into other cards or we'll return to DE Shadow where everything is just a little bit too weak.
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>>184300487
I already did. Your turn.
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>>184299941
Ouroboros. Also Grimnir in the same prebuilt too, think I might buy it just for the vialing value
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>>184300426
Festival was 2 mana, Pierce used to get discounted to 1 which comboed with Levi unbelievably hard.
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>>184300338
You do realize that the deal 1 damage to everything 4 times follower still does 1 damage to everything 4 times.
...right?
I mean even dumb,retarded seaniggers arent this stupid
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>>184300480
Free vials. Literally worse than a 2/2. At least those can kill goblins and skell doggos.
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>>184300538
The shadowniggers are all Cygames employees.
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>>184300569
>remove direbond
>control deck with 0 card draw
epic
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>>184298946
>just be smarter with your Salamanders
You ask dragoncucks to be smart? I always fuck them with sword because they used Salamander breaths on maid leader and hedgehogs and suddenly don't have any removal when I drop bigger followers.
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>>184300480
Everything nerfed is vial tier because you literally lose nothing.
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>>184300538
It's degenerated memes and humor. /svg/ is underage general. This is not even worse state
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>>184300440
Nips? If the shitposters employees are here to see the tears why would they care about the nips?
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>>184300627
But what about enabling Heavenly Hound?
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>>184300483
Think of it like this; the more people complain to Cygames, the earlier this game will go to a well deserved grave.
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>>184300534
Thank you, Rowenbro. My condolences to Ouroboros.
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>>184300480
Always vial nerfed cards without exception. You can craft them again when you need them.

I think she's still going to see regular play in Haven decks and people are being fucking stupid acting like she's dead when she can still trade up, but there's really no reason at all to keep copies of her until you settle on a list.
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>>184300480
she's a 2 mana 4/4
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>try to test out new decks before nerfs
>tove tove tove grimnir spawn
sasuga cucks
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>>184300304

Belph can steal as much of my life force as she wants.
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>>184300538
That shit started literally today.
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>>184300480
>procs dogs easily and early
>persists through board removal
>trades with any other 2pp and 3pp card evenly

No reason not to nerf her to get those vials though.
You definitely should be able to craft better legos
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>>184300730
No, they'll do the opposite. You already know this.
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cat blood build can still run bapho when tossing tove, in my decklist the only shadowcraft follower other than bapho is cat
tove was certainly good but the fact that the opponent doesn't have one is almost nicer than having one yourself for this deck
I'm not that sad about grimnir either since I never even used his enhance with the deck and as a deck with a lot of small followers the fact that he's discouraged for opponents is also good
the real nerf to the deck is leader but cat still feels very playable with all that said
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>>184299975
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>>184300604
Shadow without drawing Eachtars are sad. Probably why I saw a shadow deck that ran 3 ding dongs, 3 widows, 3 semen eaters and 3 soul convergance. Midshadow is luckly not going to be unstoppable tier 0 cancer until they get a tutor for Eachtar.
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is my waifu gona relace spawn now?
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>>184300773

They gotta hit GM before the nerfs.
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http://imgur.com/a/aP9Rz
imgur anon here.

I edited the imgur with the new nerfs, added the new prebuilts and added another picture with some tips and tricks about the game. I'll edit the reroll strategy after the nerfs go live, when we know about the meta.
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>>184300538
See the ToG and WD nerf articles.
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>>184300760
She's more along the lines of 3/2.
She won't survive vast majority of trades with that body.

She now mostly just trades upwards or pings multiple things on the same turn which is solid enough.
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>>184300612
Haha, no. They are afraid. I just checked and Ouro isn't the one with alternate art. Tell me that when they nerf a legendary with Alt art.
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>>184300885

Shadow will never get a tutor because of Tyrant.
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>>184300004
I think Fairy Dragon still could have potential if they get their shit together and make strong cards supporting fairy generation overload deck and making greater use of fairies specifically rather than just as generic 1-drops to power Elf and Roach. For example, cards that let you discard multiple fairies from the hand to destroy that many opponent cards (give or take some lenient restrictions if necessary for balance). If the deck could get serious tempo from constantly creating a lot of fairies it could work out.
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>>184300885
Shadow has shitloads of draw power with Demon Eater and Soul Conversion. They always have cards in hand and always have Eachtar. Not only do those cards add lots of draw power, they're last words enablers. The class has enough draw power to practically guarantee an Eachtar by turn 7.
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>3x Ouro, 3x Snow White, 2x Abyss
What should I craft with all these free vials? I don't need anything for Sword or Forest. How useful is Dark Alice decks?
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>>184300885
>yeah buddy just let me tutor one of my many wincons lmao
what did he mean by this?
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>>184301034
They literally printed Spawn and Baphomet in one expansion.
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>>184301034
>nep
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>>184300440
>>184298406
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>>184300947
Thanks
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How many coins are you gettin' back?
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>>184301119
meme tier
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>>184300409
heh, you sure showed me buddy

no card game is worth playing now
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>>184301012
That could have complications, but when people talk about them being afraid of nerfing legendaries and golds in prebuilts, they're talking about the cards that can be liquified because they're afraid of losing money from letting players refund those. A lot of the arguments on whether certain golds like Phantom Howl could be nerfed were based on the fact that it's in a prebuilt deck.
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>>184301119
Dark alice is fun but also pretty gimpy.
Might get a lot better now though, since spawn and phantom cat going over test of strength was a huge problem for it. (emeralda was also killing tos earlier in the expansion when people played it)

t. lost 3 thousand points losing Dark alice but enjoyed it
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>>184301119
snow is still a better than average 2drop, no reason to toss her
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>>184301173
I don't know if I should vial Spawn or not.
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>>184300440
Reading the twitter replies I would say neutral to negative. There are many complains about why other cards especially Eachtar don't get nerfed.
On the other hand, the replies to the English twitter post are pretty much positive.
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>>184300902
No, because baph is dead.
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>hmmm shadow dominated this entire expansion since we gutted their worst 50/50 matchup whoops
>it's ok we can just powercreep it no need to nerf the t7 do everything
>gee that was a bad idea, who would've thought???
>let's undo the expansion and nerf both of shadow's worst 50/50 matchups lol
I wonder what will happen????
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wait wait
will this shit is going to be back actually
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>>184301139
no they didn't
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>>184301301
Vial it for now and recraft later if you feel like Spawn is still worth playing.

Alternatively just keep one.
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>>184301349
>knights
???????

?????
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>>184301119
Just wait for next expansion.
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>>184301349
No because they didn't kill neutral. No aggro/midrange/tempo deck will be playable because neutral is just better in every way.
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>>184301289
>Might get a lot better now though
DA is just a joke. You will lose any match against Midrange, Rune, Haven, Dragon
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>>184301342
delete this. shadow and sword are honest crafts saving this game
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>>184301342
And guess who is everyones worst 50/50 matchup?
You are now aware of how utterly retarded your post is.
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>>184301146
Just proving his point, the only tutor they get is a bizarre one that can't pull tyrant
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>>184301301
He's pretty damn meh right now when you can only get him out on t8.
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>>184301374
Oh, right fuck. WD messed up with my head.
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>>184301060
they just need to be a little braver with the fairy as a resource mechanic, imagine a creature whose A/D was based on how many fairies you had in hand? Throw in a reliable three drop that generates two fairies and that could really be a deck with fairy driver and dragon.
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>>184301448
I'm trying to meme with looking glass
>>184301458
daria is still unbeatable in highroll
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>>184301276
If they nerf the legendary you can vial then it's a lot of prebuilt sales. It's a good deal for the players but lots of people will buy three prebuilts for three legendaries of their choice.
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>>184301301
>>184301396
>Now
do it later when the nerfs are active
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>>184301101
Statistically you're missing Eachtars one in five games if you Demon Eater/Conversion three times before 7 each game.

It doesn't sound like a lot but it's a pretty big deal in practice for the current state of the deck. I'm not saying Eachtar doesn't need nerfs, he's totally too good right now, but the deck is way too reliant on a single card in its current state. It's not like Aegis where you might go to 10+ even if it's in hand because you need to determine the board state, there's just so much power in Eachtar and Shadow is likely to just fold straight 1/5 games assuming nothing else goes wrong.
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>>184301342
>shadow's worst 50/50 matchups
Dirt Rune nerfed? Woah
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Wish they'd kept the enhance on Bapho, even just to pull a bloodcraft follower with at least 5 attack.
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>>184301546
You know, tomorrow.
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>>184298226
Sorry, I have no ideia.
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>Sword the only craft now without a direct nerf to their cards
It's okay because no card got fucked harder than Otohime
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Welcome back to Tempest of the Gods guys, how was Wonderland Dreams? Oh shit wheres Rowen?
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RIP
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It was useless to argue in this thread since employee-kun get mad so easily and will fuck up just to prove his point.
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>>184301772
I dunno, Spawn nerf might've been the best thing to ever happen to her.
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>>184301648
> no card got fucked harder than Otohime
Floral fencer.
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>>184255453
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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maybe i should craft carabosse now..
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>>184301837
Floral Fencer is still good by today's standards, nigga wtf
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Aw man, I missed the shit storm, what was the reaction to the nerfs?
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>>184301831
Spawn still has bandersnatch synergy so it's guaranteed to come out on 8 with it.
Tempress has no viable tutor.
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>>184301973
really cringe posts
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>>184301837
You don't play Sword. Stop with this retarded meme.
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>>184299227
>KMR's waifu is a Shadow card
huh?
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>>184301973
You miss nothing. Quality posting like this >>184302030
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>>184302059
Dark Alice
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>>184302112
cringe
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>>184301973
A lot of really angry hags, and a lot of really angry everyone else because alice didnt get nerfed
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>>184301973
dragon crying
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>>184302059
>>184302141
https://twitter.com/KimuraYuito
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I can't believe I crafted 3 lion of the golden city's on day 1
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>>184301973
You missed the /pol/ raid.
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>>184302030
>nerfs with a lot of made up like Dragon out of the blue
>it's literally only there due to the author's personal reasons
And a lot more.
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>>184302252
>so many people disagree with me, a white knight and virgin, that they must be /pol/ invaders LOL
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>>184302321
>author's personal reasons
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>>184302250
I crafted 2 Cinderella and 3 Snow White.

Well, it might not be all bad since I think Neutral Sword might be good now unless Shadow absolutely starts raping it or something. Definitely wouldn't surprise me.
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>>184302250
>crafting anything but Alice on day one

oiamlaffin
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>>184302393
because reasons. He has issues what can I do?
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>>184301520
>only
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Can you really bring yourself to hate this man?
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>>184302236
dindon buffs when?
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>>184302456
Literal trash.
Your point?
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>>184300304
I want to devour her anus.
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>>184302482
I'm the only one that reads KMR as a Kill Me Right
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They killed Snek. I'm so sad.
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>>184302498
Literal goalpost moving.
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>>184302236
Wait, is that actually him? I didn't even realize I was following them.
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>>184302550
>you don't get full price for vialing them
This is really sad
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>>184299493
>weak early game
I wonder who's behind this post
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Will dragon ever be good again?
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>>184302702
My homebrew deck is pretty good but of course it can't compete against neutral and broken decks.
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>>184302702
Dragon is so bad amrite?
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I ready for those vials
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well control blood died before it even began. Meanwhile alice gets away for free. FUN
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>>184302702
They felt forced to nerf Ouroboros because they feared that Dragon would rule the new meta. Dragon is fine.
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>people still defending tutors
kill youreselves
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>>184302827
>control blood died before it even began
That happens literally every expansion.
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>>184302250
>i cant believe i crafted 3 of the strongest cards this expansion on day 1
?
...?
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>>184302827
>neutral memes without grimnir

I don't know man. Wont be as fun to play cards and win.
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>>184302837
The Grimnir nerf is a bigger deal here honestly. I'm glad they did it anyways, I've been posting the last week about how I hoped they'd pre-empt Dragon without Blood keeping it in check.
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>>184302837
See, that's contradictory, Rune is more stronger than ever. Besides, Ouro wasn't even that strong in the previous expansion why would it now?
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>cygames literally dictates X class can't be tier 1 again and nerfs it with no need or reason at all
>people defend this
Imagine being this much of a drone.
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>>184302937
Dunno, i had a lot of fun playing control blood back in rob, sure roach match up sucked, but daria was favorable and far more common.
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>want to test post-nerf decks
>people still playing Spawn
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>>184302250
>tfw i rolled 5
i wish they just nerfed him because lol preemptive you know? reasons (while leaving shadow untouched)
not sure how am i getting vials now
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>>184303049
>Rune
Dragon eats rune alive. What are you talkin about?
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>>184302837
I don't see how Ouro enables any bullshit, specially in a meta this fast.
If they wanted to really tone Dragon down Sibyl was the target to nerf, but then the class would have been completely gutted so I'm not sure.
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>>184302550
They killed Sneks, Azazel, Dealer+Mary and Temptress as collateral damage of Neutral cancer. Nice expansion.
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>>184302979
The Grimmir nerf only aid Shadow kiddo.
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>>184302875
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>>184303053
You don't make sense at all is really cringe
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>>184303171
>muh shadow
Only dragon use Grimnir right?
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>>184303127
Oh boy here we go. Reach Master, before talking, learn about the cards and only then come back
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>>184302979
Yeah. Well, it was pretty obvious to me. If they didn't change anything to Dragon, they'd be #1. A Dragon where meta is the cancer isn't that bad, since the deck is counterable, but it's still a very unpleasant deck to face, so I'm glad it got toned down.

>>184303049
Ouro is a problem card for multiple reasons. The mirror matches are ruined because of Ouro's healing, many classes can't do shit about Ouro. He's basically a never-ending Sibyl, this card is a fucking nightmare and I'm glad that they nerfed it.
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>5 legos in 90 packs
>2 were snow whites

guess i have something to feel good about when it comes to my luck. dont really care for haven thankfully
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>>184303293
What? Are you mentally challenged B rank?
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>>184303159
>they killed already dead decks
umm lmao
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>Spawn kept the last word trigger and the ambush

all you had to do was remove one of these and the card would have been fine.
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>>184303141
Haven't them already nerf Zell? Ouro does nothing game breaking alone. That's why people say there's a intern fucking around.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIo6MPjjJ0s
spicey
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>>184303293
Really makes you think
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>>184303386
They could have seen more play if they did nerf the right cards. Sadly that was too much asking from Cygames, apparently.
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>>184303301
>Ouro is a problem card for multiple reasons. The mirror matches are ruined because of Ouro's healing,
Tech cards against it. Rune didn't just do it? Holy shit. We can't counter Mordecai+Nep+Khawy, either.
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>>184303256
Why is everything "cringe" to these thirsty fuckbois? Is that literally the only descriptor you got? Cringe? "I just got a 4-1 in take 2, it was cringe." The fuck is this gay shit?
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>>184303663
Just hide and ignore
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>>184303521
>self reported data
Aside from Pascale, I'm a Rune-everything thing player. I know what I'm saying.
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>>184303747
>self reported data
Oh not this shit again pls stop
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>>184303663
>still muh shadow in the thread
Not our fault when your crafts stuck out like sore thumbs for nerf. Too bad they didn't hit Rune though
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>>184302979
Grimnir nerf is a non issue for dragon.
Dragon doesn't end games with chip damage and 4hp finishers, it ends games with big fat turds thrown at enemy face after you cleared his board for a 5th time in a row.
Grimnir still works as usual here.

Going baha into grimnir haven't changed at fucking all.
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>kill ouro
>leave Kektar and Alice untouched
Well done KMR, fuck you too.
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>>184303484
kek
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>>184303624
Did you see turn 20+ play in tournament when pre-nerf Lightning Blast?
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>>184303624
Dragon can tech against Ouro obviously, but the problem is that Cygames wants short games. In mirror matches, Ouro's healing can prolong those games so much that they become annoying to play.

They're staying true to their "design pillar". See pic related, first paragraph of the answer.
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>>184303848
>expecting them to nerf KMR's favourite card and the poster girl of the expansion
You can't be this delusional. That said, without leader on turn 3, the curve will be less oppressive.
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>>184303484
Dread Queen really is the Queen of Memes.
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>can finally throw away caprice for snipe on dshift
good times are coming
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>>184303848
You don't seem to get how to tell if a card is balanced or not, so I'll enlighten you.

Does it die to Themis? If yes, it's balanced. If no, it needs to be nerfed. Eachtar and Alice are fine.
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>>184303884
That's literally saying they won't do fair balancing and nerfs. This is a mobile game to be played like shit. We got it.
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Reminder:
https://twitter.com/ruhu_tyoooooo/status/891234559165030400
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>>184303975
If you have golem assault, consider commence experiment. Give you a target for glow too.
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>>184303484
fuck JO dragon
ouroboro and grimnir nerf wasnt enough
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>>184303959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4Y5XiZZtQ
really is
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>>184304003
This. Haven is true source of all bullshit we have. It's black swan effect
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>>184304003
Modecai dies to Themis? Skellies last word dies to Themis? Burn from hand dies to Themis? Does it matters if Kys Blood dies to Themis?
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>>184304006
I don't think anyone disagrees with this Ouro nerf, honestly. I mean, besides Dragon mains.

With that said, they removed the face damage from Grimnir, and this one certainly shortened games by a lot.
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>>184303848
He's not killed, Dragon has more than enough healing without him.
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Nice, a 3rd month I don't have to play this shit.
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BnB forest reporting for duty.
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>>184302482
WAIT

HOL UP

HOL UP

ARE YOU TELLIN ME

THAT

WE

WUZ

SHADOWVERSE CARDZ???!!?!!?
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>>184303484
This is superb.
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Next meta bois
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>>184304149
Uh, Shadow hasn't reached an unacceptable 7.4% so clearly there's nothing wrong there. Maybe you just need to get better at the game.
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>>184304254
Who is this Matress Actress?
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>>184304217
Be serious anon. Other crafts have viable decks that you need to bandwagon into shadow
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>>184304092
oh that'd be a good excuse for playing assault when enhanced, definitely giving it a try, thank you
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>>184304023
oh look its balanced we dindunuffin haven that definitely doesnt deserve a nerf
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>found /svg/ shitposter in twitter
>born in 1997
This is why we can't have nice things
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>>184304023
there are actually reddit havens who don't tech the "5 mana banish any win condition" card because its "bloat"
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KMR has fucked nips cosplaying as your waifu.
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>>184304183
Cygames is hitting a craft that have nothing to do with this meta. Ouro is old news, Grimmir nerf benefits Shadow like has been said billions times before in the past. Everything about these nerfs points to favouritism and ridiculous gymnastics.
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>>184304517
you need to go back
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>>184304448
>1997 was 20 years ago
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Well at least Blood is the patrician class again while we can continue to shit on the shadowniggers for another month.
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>>184304117
That was SPICY
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>>184304574
>Grimmir nerf benefits Shadow
Everytime. Other crafts don't even exist for dragons.
>muh LB was balanced because of Shadow
>muh Zell was balanced because of Shadow
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>>184304642
>causing a worse meta
>thinks he's any different from the shadowniggers
Kill yourself.
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>he still plays shadowverse
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>>184304743
I don't since today
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>>184304574
I hate Shadow as much as anyone else, but Grimnir nerf is mainly against Dragon/Haven, not for Shadow. The 4 face damage was retarded and had to go. Everyone is happy about this nerf, the card was cancerous as fuck.
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I'm sorry, anon...
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>>184304574
>Grimnir nerf benefits shadow
Explain that, dragoncuck. What's the matter? Big baby mad that no more 12 direct damage?
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>dat hand while going second vs bloodcraft

Shadowverse wants me to quit it so bad, eh.
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Eachtar is nerfed next month... right?
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>>184304448
And they are 20 years old. Magic, right underage-kun?
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>>184304949
Eachtar nerf will kill midrange.
>>
Where's "they won't nerf legendary cards" guys?
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>>184304908
>Build a deck of bricks
>lose
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>>184304983
KILL YOURSELF NEGROSHADOW
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>>184304983
>killing the deck that ruined an entire expansion and will continue to ruin the game
Big loss.
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>>184304878
Not that person but fuck them for killing the JO Grimnir.
The nerf is really stupid killing so many fun deck.
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>>184304117
>Luna concedes
>Influx of ten million nip comments
Nips really are memey
>>
hey nice pic
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>>184305025
You are 15 days late
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>>184304962
>underage-kun
>20 years old
You sure adult here 20 yo kid.
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>>184304949
His head can't be taken.
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>>184305025
I doubt an intelligent person like him still plays this game
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>>184304949
>STILL crying about a deck that got nerfed THREE TIMES
Maybe your deck just fucking sucks
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>>184305075
A true JO deck doesn't play followers.
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>>184304117
>Cygames will never make a Shadowverse anime with bullshit duels like this between rivals that make meme decks look fucking sick and incredible
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>>184305067
Hag will rise
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>>184305215
Wasn't it 2 times?
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>>184305215
>three times
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Ded game ded general
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i just want the new alternative haven leader to be loli
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>>184305215
>"""""""""""""""""""""nerfed"""""""""""""""""""""
epic
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>>184305215
Maybe eachtar is actually fucking stupid
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>>184305215
But Eachtar was never nerfed.
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>>184305271
>>184305317
goblin leader nerf is a direct midrange nerf
i cant think of a single other deck that runs it

inb4 hurpdurp homebrew neutral shitcan
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>>184305218
>Not making a deal with satan
What kind of wizard are you.
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>>184305432
Z rank?
>>
Just imagine world without Eachtar
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>>184305432
t. B1
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>>184305521
And Aegis, and Bahamut, and storm and all those direct damages that can go face.
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>people still crying about eachtard

literally just themis it
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>>184305587
>complaining about Storm in 2017
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>>184305521
How many decks has eachtar killed into unplayability just like LB did again?
Oh right 0 since you can just win vs shadow and can counter board flood
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>>184305587
No. Only Eachtar is cancer. Only shadownigger will disagree. Haven is honestcraft
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>>184305521
There's so many bullshit now I can't even start processing. All I know is that KMR needs to get stabbed for Shadow and Blood.
>>
Just
Themis
Bro
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>>184305697
i cant tell if this is falseflag or not
>>
Eachtar is balanced and alone won't win games on his own from nothing like a lot of other cards did and still do
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>>184305665
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>>184305587
>comparing t9 do nothing to t7 do everything
hmm
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>Neutral Blood was T1 for 1 month
>Silver enabler Baphomet and their Legendary Spawn gets nerfed
>Shadow was T1 for 3 months
>Only their Silver enabler Skeleton Prince gets nerfed
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>>184305665
Are you serious
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>>184304117
Wish I had a replay of the time I had 5 Mordecai in play and another two in hand.
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>>184305771
And yet albertcraft and roachniggers were still played since they were shitting on other decks
Specifically haven
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>>184305665
Forest in its entirety
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>>184305665
>you see this other card was bullshit, that means Eachtar is ok
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>>184305785
>gold enabler was recently nerfed
You missed a spot.
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>>184305785
They only nerfed Blood to not raise suspicious. Don't be their goy.
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>>184305771
And this is Haven. Forest supposed to kill Haven but nope. Havencancer will rise after Eachtar nerf.
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>>184304117
Fucking meme queen. Holy fug.
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>>184305873
And good riddance!
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>>184305665
>nep removes dragon from the game
>it's cool
>LB removes nep from the game
>holy fucke oppressive nerf this card right now cygames
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>>184305759
>it doesn't LITERALLY WIN THE GAME BY ITSELF ON EVERY SITUATION so it's balanced, guys!
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>>184305904
>claims eachtar is """""""bullying decks""""""" out of existance
>it actually isnt
>midrange has 2% playrate in WLD
>STILL complains about it
>but not havens 8% aegis which will only rise when blood goes down

Really ponders those thinking caps
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>>184305963
*suspicion
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>>184306020
>dragoncuck defending LB
No one should able to counter Dragon!
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>>184305990
>deflecting to Haven out of nowhere when the topic isn't even a specific deck's winrate
Shadowniggers are pathetic.
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>>184306020
Not even x3 LB was enough for nep. Seriously, someone need to kill Cygames.
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>talking LB and eachtard
>sudden MUH HAVEN
Shadowniggers are literal children.
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>>184306125
>Just imagine world without Eachtar
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>>184306042
>>184299829
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>>184306125
>imagine a world without eachtar
>not even eachtar is keeping havens winrate down
Literal clinically diagnosed retard
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MAINT IN 19 HOURS
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>>184306332
>>184306332
>>184306332
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>>184306239
>positive against almost everything
So Haven >>184305990
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>>184306293
It can go and stay into maint forever for me.
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>>184306293
RIP anyone who didn't make GM this month. All time easiest 10k points.
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>>184306209
>How many decks has eachtar killed into unplayability?
>I show Midshadow's winrate against Forest and Sword
>replies to ME showing that Haven has high winrates
How about you reply to the original post if that's what you want to address, fucking retard?
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>>184306360
>>184306360
>>
>>184306293
>release of the Tempest of The Gods expansion soon
>thread still slow as ever
Wtf?
>>
>>184306189
You mean falseflagging hags at it again. The only one who was happy about the LB nerf was you guessed it, haven.
All other crafts are used to having their board cleared by haven but god-fucking-forbid there exists a spell that removes amulets
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>>184306293

Soon
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>>184306358
>deflecting
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>>184306425
Im sure Aegis cares about a 10pp mass banish you retarded shadowbab.
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>>184304117
>>184303484

Please stop me from crafting a Meme Queen playset.

All the decks with her look fun as fuck.
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>>184306350
>>184306397
Too early newshits
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>>184305049
>deck of bricks
>70% consists of early game stuff

you what mate
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are you fags ready for Luna time again?
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>>184305120
18 years old is adult everywhere in the world
Are you stupid?
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Could I get a concede please? 27037
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