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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1305

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■ Current Update (7/26):「Heroes: EPISODE 5」Part 1
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-is-searching-for-heroes-in-episode-5/
└ http://pso2.jp/players/update/20170726/

■ Next Update (8/9):「Heroes: EPISODE 5」Part 2

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/boost/
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Current Scratches: http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/
├ Tropical Summer Ocean (until 8/9)
├ Legendary Heroes (until 8/23)
└ [SG] Mother Cluster Imitation (until 12/13)

■ Current Collection Files
├ Beach 2017 (Fornis, until 9/6)
├ Phantom God (Zeinesis, until 11/1)
├ Majestic/Phantom Battleship (until 11/29)
├ Revolutio 2 (until 2018/3/7)
└ Aura (until 2018/3/21)

□ FAQs, Lilipans, Guides, (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information/News: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ Basic English Patch: http://pso2.acf.me.uk/Manual/
└ Buy AC using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa
□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Trees: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affixing: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage Calculator: http://4rt.info/psod/

Previous Thread: >>183957072
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>Outparsed by a girl
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Posting best TMG camos, so nice.
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>>184069415
Those are too small to fit inside perfectly
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>>184069415
put some clothes on
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Can we agree that hero is the highest IQ class to play?
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>>184069415
>revolver camo submitted to design contest didn't win for revolver ocelot cosplays
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>>184064160
Well, I was mostly working on a rainbow set for bouncer. I hear fire, light and dark are going to be the big three in Ep5 so I though I'd get invader DBs since they come at 60 element already.

I guess NT yamato is a lot better if not for the ease of grinding
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>>184069415
shit taste
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Is there any point in doing the matter board, cirnopedia doesnt go past episode 1 so i dont know what goodies there might be if any
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>can't even do gurugurus properly because matchmaking is completely fucking broken
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>>184069951
ok koga
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what the fuck?
fornis rifle CF fills like 5% a run with 350% boost?

are you shitting me?
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Does beach aritron always drop an astra unit?
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I miss skengs.
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>>184069971
Tri-boosts
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>>184069868
For some reason I assumed you were Force, Bouncer is so fucking terrible it didn't cross my mind even when you mentioned yoi. Though I guess to be fair Force is terrible now too.
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>>184070475
We all do
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>>184070517
at the end of the day I like how the class plays so, I might as well gear for it. Damn shame too. invader DBs look pretty neat

Im sure the 10 heroes and the occasional fighter in multi party wont even notice the damage Im not dealing.

Its a shame too, Im only 75/75 with a long way to go for 80 80. Not gonna be getting those zeiness anytime soon
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i miss sign
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>630 again in the middle of a eq
fuck this shitty game
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I miss noko.
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>>184071079
Yeah, no
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Bring back expert blocks and change the fucking requirements
that's it sega
that's all you have to do
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I miss Yayo.
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Did they not fucking playtest the balance changes at all? The divide between the good and the bad classes is so fucking enormous, you're automatically leeching depending on what class you pick.
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I miss Metty.
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>>184071397
It's a hero's duty to carry the weaker classes
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i miss lilith
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Any recommended Hero trees?
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I miss koishi
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:)
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Which one of you fags is alan?
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>Spent all my fuses to get all three Qliphad weapons for Fighter
>Everyone who didn't do that or get TMG/Sword is suffering
Serves you all right
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>>184072825
>suffering when they all moved to hero
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>>184072138
Max out everything in the top 5 rows. In addition, max out hero will and aura tech PP save. Put the rest into PP up.
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>>184072825
>Qliphad Fighter weapons
spot the faggot
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i miss fazz xd
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>>184073045
BTFO LMAO
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i miss the poster below me
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So all my dps as braver is from Just Guarding to activate gear, then using katana combat and just spamming the shit out of guren tessen, then activating combat finish?
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>>184072825
>mfw i just use sekaiser gear on hero and still outdamage you
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i miss eharima
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What the fuck is going on with my coat?
First it was all metallic and now it looks like a solar panel. This never happened before the update.
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>>184070475
Which one? The one that was the funny clown or the newer one that doesn't look funny?
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>tfw nobody misses me
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>>184073784
you're Quna now, enjoy
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>>184074775
Clown Skengs was one of the prettiest characters to have ever graced this thread.
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ummm where's the maint compensation
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>>184075408
lmoa
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>>184075469
what, you didn't get your 250% rdr booster?
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>>184075828
that's an episode 5 login reward
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>>184075936
>he didn't get his 250 booster
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>>184075936
Idiot
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>>184076643
and you keep falling for it you dumbo
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>merely an act
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>>184076948
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>>184077042
>>184077050
You are nothing but puppets to be controlled by me
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>>184077050
That image doesn't relate at all, retard
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>>184078021
It does now.
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>>184078405
:p
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Heroes requirement should have been all classes 75
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>>184078604
Nice ugly dog post
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>>184069415
Rich fags only camo
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I can't think of a good R ring for hero. JAPPS isn't really good because you aren't really alternating TAs all the time on hero. I think effort symbol is the way to go.
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>>184080638
>JAPPS isn't really good because you aren't really alternating TAs all the time on hero
pso2g everyone
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Any 100 attack/some pp affixes that is preferable not fazz tier and does not costs 3 arms and 1 leg?
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Is sword hero counter actually better than ignite parry?
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>>184080970
Why did you call yourself out?
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HERO RING BOYZ
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>>184081573
Does it gives the same stats as the other things minus the different glow colour?
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>>184081749
Same shit different color
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i miss trannyguru
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>>184080970
The depends the weapon. on sword you do more damage from auto attack into a PA so JAPPS will be useless.
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>>184074836
>tfw everybody forgot about me
time to change my sega id
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I miss tsuni
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>>184083238
I'm a tranny too
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I really did not liked the hassle of war cry/brave minus for td stuff since i felt obliged to keep it up 24/7 for the damage buff but hows victory shout,worth 1 point at least?
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>hit 80k dps
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Is lightning tree Razonde talis spam weaker than fire for mobbing now?
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>>184085581
Both are shit, stop playing force. It's not ep4 any more
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Did these HU changes affect what it looks like as a sub at all? None of the sims have the updated tooltips so I have no fucking idea what to do now that I reset my skilltrees. Is it still Fury all the way or did the Guard Stance Changes have an effect on HU as a sub too?
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>>184086206
yeah, it's now guard stance for everything
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>>184081749
Yes, but unlike on the other classes it's most definitely worth using on Hr since it affects all three attack types.
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>>184086206
No, GSA is mainclass only.
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I really, really hate this update.

>"dude lets make a class that can do everything the best"
>we're playing an MMO where everyone can do everything

What a fucking bore.
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>>184086712
the door's right there
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>>184086816
Not him but I'm only going to log on for Deus Esca from now on. If the game isn't better by the time I finish my final +35 sometime in early october probably I'll probably quit. The state of the game right now is just pathetic and I've been around since ep2.
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>>184087037
Nice blog.
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>>184087037
The 'state of the game' is only shit now if you main bow, force or te.
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>>184087271
I play two of those, that's why I'm pissed
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>>184086284
Fi uses it allready as well
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>2017
>loser still puts EQ rotation on cooldown
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>>184087496
Or how about no fucking Deus in 3 days.
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>>184087401
well fuck off then, only fi and hr is allowed to talk here
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>heroes can even guren dash better
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>>184083275
> Wise hound
> Jet Wheel
> Switch to sword
> Enjoy free boosted gauge gain.
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Does anyone know what the jazzy music that plays during Beach Wars is?
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max hero flash guard

Yes/No?
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>>184089240
almost all your offensive skills are based on not getting hit, what do you think
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>>184090261
How to not get hit?
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>play Hero in SH
>I'm actually as strong as every other class while staying legit fun
Well, this is good. Too bad I'm gonna have to level Hero at least one more time because one of them's my Te and I'm too busy leveling her Br up.
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>>184081573
Woah, Matoi really let herself go.
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Can you win against the orc.
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>>184092145
Going to see some smut with Xeira getting the orc dick?
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>>184092753
of course
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>>184092959
>>184092753
no bullying
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>>184093116
she was already cute before, but now she's the cutest thing of the whole episode
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>>184093265
Can I impregnate that?
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According to swiki:
>There is no effect on the shifter hung from other PCs who have not learned this skill.
>If another player 's shifter is hanging during the shifter effect of the skill acquirer, the effect time will be lengthened without skill effect disappearing.
>In the case where shifters of multiple skill acquirers are required, the higher skill Lv takes precedence. (From EP 3 delivery update) (2014/8/27)
Does this mean if a Fo who has 5 pts into Shifta Advance will overwrite the shifta of a Te who has 3 pts into Shifta Advance along with the Techer's 5/5 Shifta Strike? Is it mandatory for Te to get Shifta Advance 5/5 to avoid this from happening?
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>>184071042
I used to be a bouncer before i embraced Hero. I know the damage you're not dealing. And I will be judging you for it.
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>>184093356
we've known this for literally years now and yes, a better shifta overrides.
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>>184071332
>requirements are now be lv80 hero
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>>184093356
>playing fo
>playing te
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What did they do to make Te shit again? So bad that even applying fields and buffs is pointless now?
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Is Mimi standing on a raiser?
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What's a good all stat affix for Hero?
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rip im lagging super hard a
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>>184093710
yes
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>>184093710
shut up noko
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>>184093939
But why?
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>>184086453
You know one thing I always wondered, does it trigger on any parry or only Hunter weapon Just Guards
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Anyone have a gif or a video if Nabarta type 0?

Also how are partizans looking with the Volg raptor nerf?
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I can't sleep. will somebody talk to me?
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>>184095373
Hi

i feel real good because even if im lagging heroes will carry me through the upcoming eqs :3
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>>184095373
I just wake up, on which ship are you?
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>>184095373
Call me unless you a pussy ass nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1J2CzNnS8
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>>184095723
You should still try your best but I am glad you are happy!

>>184095823
I play on ship 2 because my friends play there.
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>>184096170
omg that is a real thing? I kind of want to call and see but I would probably laugh and make somebody angry.
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how hard is it to solo time attack quests on VH?
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>>184096746
no hard, but boring
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>>184096746
It isn't.
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>>184096746
fun and fast as hero desu
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>>184096746
depends on levels/gear
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I am so bored! Ask me anything!
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>>184097139
Do you stay hydrated?
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>>184097203
Yes I do! This summer has been so hot!
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So, I have a friend who recently quit the game due to the class nerfs. He handed me his account and everything in it.

How would I go about transferring stuff like his Meseta over to my account without risking ding dong? I heard that monomates for high prices selling on Myshop do get policed by SEGA sometimes.
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>>184097203
Do you slip slop and slap before going outside?
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>>184097609
Slip slop and slap? What is that?
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>>184097781
It's a way to keep yourself safe from the harsh SOLUS
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>>184097948
Ohhh. Well yes I did put on sunscreen but I still got a little bit burned.
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>>184093265
those low poly feet ruin the design for me
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>>184097948
but solus isn't harsh at all.
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>>184098483
Solus is gay.
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solus eats rice with spoon
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>>184098740
THIS
HOLY FUCK IM SO TRIGGERED
AND YOU CALL YOURSELF OF CHINESE ANCESTRY
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Ki-rin is hanging around ship 2 right now!
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tfw not dirty brazilian
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>>184098740

He puts soy sauce on white rice too.
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What were they thinking making the default option being the multiblock matchmaking?
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>>184099000
"Let's put them all back with the non experts and hope they won't notice it"
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>>184100071
It appears to have worked for the most part, too. If you dont use mutliblock matching, you're basically fucked if you checked the "match with experts only" option until 2ch decide on the new expert blocks.
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>>184093265
she was already stupid before, but now she's the stupidest thing of the whole episode
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>>184100241
Hitsugi was worse.
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>>184100191
I just doesn't work at the moment, you will need all the experts in your block to have the box ticked otherwise you're forced to do the EQ with the worst people that could ever exist in this game, because people tried it once and it fucked them over so unless we come up with a plan like the 2ch pubs we will forever be playing like this.
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>>184100365
At least she stayed where she belongs, in the trash that is episode 4.
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>>184100365
Kohri was worse.
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goblins and minotaurs are worse than phantoms
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>>184100737
but muh skeletans and golems
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>>184100737
Do you like reskins that much?
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>>184100830
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>>184100854
I prefer reskins over pd being an evil king with knights and chocobos
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Which units should I get for hero? I haven't had any 12* units drop ever, so my options are pretty limited.
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>>184099000
This feature is something I wanted from day 1.
But it's poorly implemented now and causes more grief than joy.
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>>184101398
zein/qliph or the rear weila board thing from ep1-4 xh
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>>184099000
It shouldn't just be the "default option" it should be the only option and it should just work
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>>184100854
Let's not pretend they haven't been palette swapping enemies since Episode 1
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>>184100854
Not a EP4 sympathizer but everything in this game is a color/palette swap
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>>184100645
>They mention her by name not even ten minutes into the start of EP5
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>>184101579
except it doesn't "just work". Using cross block matching removes your drink effect, which defeats the purpose of getting a specific one.
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>>184101549
What if I don't have any of those? Because I'm sure not getting them now
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>>184101813
Everything in most games is a color/palette swap
Do you have any idea how much work it takes to make every single enemy completely unique in a full length game, much less one that's been on-going for five years
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>>184101868
I said it >should just work
It doesn't work now
Jesus Christ try to keep up
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My wife Xiera is cute with glasses
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>>184101942
>Everything in most games is a color/palette swap
I know that and that's why we pay them to work hard because believe it or not there's a lot of games that do/did a great job on having completely unique enemies
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>>184101868
Haha, yeah, that really sucks! Actually, on a related note, you know what does "just work"? Skyrim VR. If PSO2 angers you too much, I'd recommend getting it!
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>>184101870
Your goal should be 3 Qliphs. Replacements until that time comes are: Arm Raegals or Fiogals from itsuki emergency codes on super hard+. They're pretty common emergency codes in most free fields. I got 2 arm drops in skyscape exploration during a boost week. The current LQs drop Ray units, they work too. Theres Rear Shine Red/Blue from the battle coin shop, and the rear and leg from the 2017 badge shop that arent the greatest but will do for now. S ranking Ultimate Amduscia will get you a Gix arm i think.
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>pso2g says not to use crossmatching
>try single block matching
>nobody else uses single block matching
>try crossmatching
>now it's 1 min past eq start
>can't get full mpa
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>>184101868
So drink it after
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>>184102282
This man is very smart, please listen to him!
Skyrim VR is the most enjoyable experience i've had in years!
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>>184102417
>nobody else uses single block matching
Yeah, if you're in an empty block that will happen.
Also why did you refer to yourself?
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>>184102321
I get what my goal should be, I'm just saying that I'm never gonna have a set of zein units, I have enough fuses that if I had the units I could convert them all to Qliph right now. But that doesn't help if I don't have the units, and now Deus is basically out of rotation.
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>>184102434
>farm for a specific drink effect (eg. pa damage up, weak point damage up, affix count boost)
>cross block match
>get a shitty sub effect instead
if you could flat pay 10k meseta to get a sub effect of your choice with the relevant drink, I'd just pay that every time.
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>>184102434
Spotted the non expert
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>>184102512
None of those make enough of a difference for it to matter
It's more effort than it's actually worth to cycle drinks like that
If they actually bother to fix this problem what they should do is force you to be stuck with the same drink until you complete a quest
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>>184102686
>None of those make enough of a difference for it to matter
>20% damage on weakpoints
>no difference
Non expert trash spotted
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>>184089201
OutRun OST
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>>184102820
Unless you're actually trying to TA or solo that shit it is a huge fucking waste of time. You're better off with an RDR effect instead for anything that's actually relevant.
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>>184102956
Too bad it gets interrupted by those ep4 faggots' music.
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>>184103585
too bad you're gay
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>>184101852
>Picture
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>>184103638
I'd rather hear the Outrun music than any music that has to do with those faggots.
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>>184102482
nobody uses it in crowded blocks either
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Man, I LOVE COPYING OTHER PEOPLES LOOKS BECAUSE IM AN UNORIGINAL RETARD
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>>184102478
That's right friend, it was worth every cent for me!
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>>184103792
ok
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>>184103792
that's a big diaper
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>>184103792
I know who this post is for, he copied me too.
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hows life as hero desu
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>https://youtu.be/Aoop0kPZyPM
lol
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>>184104898
SU/GU lives?
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>>184105025
HERO
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>use the left option when starting eq
>2/12
>1/12
YOU FUCKING LIARS GET FUCKED
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>>184106108
I meant right option
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>>184106108
>expertfag
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>>184106108
One of these might be your problem:
1. You have expert matching ticked.
2. Multi block matching (Left option)
3. You haven't killed yourself yet
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>>184069951
what is that camo?
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>>184106376
>expert matching ticked
>literally 2 seconds off of a fifth run because i stopped to check loot
I'll keep it ticked.
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>>184108263
Why are you lying
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>use either matching option
>get unfull mpa
>have to wait several minutes to get the first run
>delayed first run means you're stuck with these shitters
>consistently get only 2 runs
this is the worst update I've seen in any game ever
they literally ruined the game
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>>184108667
expert multiblock match at the start of an eq and you'll be right, just make sure to 'same block retry' after the first run. at least on ship 4
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https://youtu.be/IqN4hgj97FA
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>>184105025
You can S-rank solo PD with almost anything, so not really.
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>>184104898
>summoner is worst than sword only hu now
Lmao@SummonerCucks
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is hero even that good?
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>>184109289
It beats/Is on par on bossing and mobbing with the great 2
https://youtu.be/yERDjmZpIYw
https://youtu.be/Aoop0kPZyPM
https://youtu.be/Zo6ykuFC-Mg
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Post poorfag hero affixes
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>>184110006
Power3/Shoot3/Tech3/Abi
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>>184110560
pls
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>>184110006
AresthesoulModDoom
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>>184110706
+Noble/Elegant Stamina if you're not that poor
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>>184110706
What's that first one?
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>>184110982
Actually, you mean Anga Soul? Would be my first guess for Ares. Would that even be better than App?
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>>184111186
Ares probably is the 25 all attack +2 pp whatever soul
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>>184110982
I'm going to assume that anon had a stroke or is a phoneposter and meant to type apprentice soul.
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>>184111273
It's supposedly a new combo affix soul that's probably going to be introduced with buster quests or something further down the line (or is already present with conditions nobody has told anybody) that would theoretically be a poor mans astral soul.
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>>184111186
It's the new soul that was leaked, +25 AllATK some HP and 3PP.
I have no idea if it'll be real when buster quest is live or if it already is real.
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>>184111439
Ah turns out I'm the dumb one. A poor man's astral soul does sound nice though.
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>buying an extra skill tree only gives you an extra tree for one class

what the fuck is this stupidity
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>>184112687
Be a good goy and buy them trees
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>>184103792
is this kirsch? you're all kayleth clones anyway
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>>184112902
Dunno who dat
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>>184101852
I want an episode 4 edit of this.
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>>184112902
t. gayleth
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>>184113443
This is such easy "tomboy" fag bait, kayleth posts with broken english
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>>184113443
Ok lilith
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Is there a way to automatically accept the request from the party leader to join another block or am I doomed to make the entire party wait every single goddamn time?
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Is it just me or techs are very much stronger in hero than fo?
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>>184110006
Double Soul
Stamina 3
Spirita 3
Spirita Boost
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>Accidentally keep hitting quick match when I'm trying to do dailies
Getting mad
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>>184115712
Can't spell BTFO without FO
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>>184117293
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
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>>184114385
No auto option.
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Which is best for Hero?
Zenesis TMG: +14% damage, double affixes
Aura TMG: +16% damage, +30% PP recovery on the reload
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This is anti-fun but i need another phantom coat and i already bought all the gems in the casino.
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tfw not cute
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>>184069951
>>184069415
You fucking kids have no respect for the classics.
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>>184119390
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>>184119390
Post your character and I'll rate them.
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>Episode 5 story
>it's generic isekai
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>>184107041
Aria's Twin Swords & Guns
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>>184079174
>richfags only camo
>i have it
I am literally the definition of poverty.
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>4/12
FUCKING FIX THIS FAGGOT SHIT, SEGA.
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>use multi-block auto matchmaking
>You were unable to join the party because of changes to that party's status.
I wasn't even trying to join a party, what is this shit?
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>>184120148
It's not causing them financial damage yet so it's not a problem
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Help, I'm trying to update the game but the tweaker keeps crashing on me.
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>>184122248
>using tweaker
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>Hero TMG with EPPR ring
This is disgusting even for SEGA
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>>184122758
>Just be using sword
>Wish I had an all-atk set to use all the weapons
I hate affixing.
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>>184117293
STAY MAD FIKEKS
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>>184120040
>1/4
I just want to LQ... Why is nobody playing.
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I just got an astra unit from the EQ. Is it good? Are there parts other than the arm?
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>>184122758
its unintended and getting removed.
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>>184124774
It's good if you don't have zein/union/izane/whitil. There's a piece for each slot.
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>>184124774
it's a full set but it doesn't have a set bonus
>>184124779
after a week. why didn't they touch it in the 6 hour maintenance?
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I think I understand Hero now.

Hero is intentionally broken and stupid easy to play because Sega finally realized that the average player is fucking garbage. I've noticed after two days of running LQs and EQs as Hero that I'm *vastly* outdamaging every other Hero in the parties I'm in, while in the hands of other players, they're just about keeping pace with my minmaxed non-Hero classes. I think Sega intentionally released Hero as an overpowered class to make it so that pubby shitters aren't a burden in quests; it's only absurd in the hands of someone who's decent at the game.
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>>184102482
>used same block matching in a prem full block
>4/12
yeah no nobody uses this shit
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>>184125236
Now they only need to bump other classes to be in line with hero/fi/gu.
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>>184125236
I feel like that's what they wanted SU to be but failed.
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>>184120148
Basically in been the time that you pressed match with other blocks and the time that you actually made it to the campship, they started the teleporter and left without you.
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>>184126232
In between*
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How do I make Ether Factor?
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>ame no murakumo is the reason why can save persona
I wasn't expecting anything remotely good from this story, but jesus fucking christ
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>>184127219
Well it was used to save mother already so... that much should have been obvious.
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>20% CF progress after 4 summer EQ runs with all boosts, donuts, and swimsuit
Welp. Guess it's a good thing I don't give a shit about the Fornis rifle.
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>>184127947
Literally what the fuck is this shit? Is this the slowest filling CF ever??

Id be better off hoping to get the drop from another enemy.
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>>184128247
fornis drops are pyroxene weapons :^)
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>>184128247
>>184128307

IT'S A FUCKING PROXENE SHOP ITEM?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>184128307
Anon, are you suggesting we just buy pyroxene items to fill up the CFs?
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>>184128484
Not possible, you have to get the item as a drop.
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>>184128484
Buying it does nothing, it has to drop but since it does; enjoy BW.
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>>184128416
>>184128484
buying or making the item wont fill the sheet, you'll have to actually earn it
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>>184125863
>I feel like that's what they wanted BO to be but failed
ftfy
so much for the chance maker class
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Does partisan feel better now or am I just retarded? I don't feel like it's only a volg machine now.
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Hero is the proff sega is out of ideas
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>>184129905
Sega should run out of ideas more often then, better than getting Bo and Su.
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RA is virtually fucking worthless in ep5.

You have to JA all your attacks with a weapon that doesn't let you use normal attacks, so you have to waste 16 PP on a standing snipe to JA into a real DPS attack. Meanwhile Hero's first attack is always a JA. You have to stand perfectly still to activate standing snipe or else you lose 30% of your damage, while TMG hero can jump around the place and still do max damage. You also have to be an arbitrary distance away from your target or else you lose 20% of your damage, while TMG hero doesn't care about distance and even has the same range as rifle.

For ranger, it's all conditionals, conditionals, conditionals, all that you must follow perfectly just so that you can do the same (or worse) DPS than hero, and then you have to switch to an orbit and throw grenades to refill your PP while the hero refills his PP in less than half the time. Hero's only conditional is "lol don't get hit".

Ranger might not have been nerfed in ep5, but it has been made obsolete. The only reason to play ranger now is for weak bullet, so you can be the support slut who enables the 11 heros in your MPA to do 20% more damage.
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>>184132058
my thoughts exactly. Ex-ranger main now I guess.
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>>184132058
You forgot to mention Hero got goodOnepoint/goodSlider0.
They also significantly nerfed weak bullet in unjammed quests.
Have you tried doing regular XQs on RA? It's unironically harder than H&H.
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>>184132058
>The only reason to play ranger now is for weak bullet

It has been that way since ep 1.
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>>184132058
Ex-ranger main here.

The worst part is sega didn't buff WHA nor standing snipe to make up for the loss in power of WB. When they nerfed WB to 2.55x, they at least buffed WHA to make up for the loss. Now WB is a 1.2x modifier, RA pretty much lost about 50% of its multipliers. Sure, sega claims to have adjusted older content for it but seeing how other classes are, I doubt they really adjusted properly.

It's a dead class and it's all thanks to sega not playtesting their own game.
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>>184133732
>Lets make you need to do 25 beach wars to drop a fornis rifle
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>>184132058
>been playing ranger for about 3 years
>tfw i've played long enough to actually see it die out as a class

i guess its finally time to hang up my rifle..
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>Dear master buff essentially makes me immortal

Fucking wew
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The hero weapon selection alone should tell you how much sega hates Ra
>old class melee weapon
>old class tech weapon
>new class shooting weapon
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>>184133883
That's like 3 eqs
Are you in a shitter team?
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>>184133883
>Let's just ignore the content instead just like RQ because their cfiles took ages to complete
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>>184134384
The difference was riding quests were available at any time to do (and there were complaints about their files back then too). Compared to literally every other eq with fornis, in particular choco which could be done in like, 2 eq windows tops, its an utterly abysmal completion rate.
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>>184134384
RQ's also had weapons that dropped from other enemies if you didnt want do do RQ / LQ.

This time around ALL we have is EQ.
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>>184134364
you're also forgetting
>old class melee weapon with an attack 3x faster and stronger
>old class tech weapon that's more useful in utility and can still casts techs
>new class shooting weapon with the range of the old class shooting weapon
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Is rifle the worst 14*?
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I wish this had infinite range.
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>>184135202
rifle is worst anything since sega sodomized ranger
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>all these stinky butthurt rangers
LMAO JUST PLAY HERO YOU TWATS
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>>184135475
>PLAY THE DESIGNATED CLASS AND ONLY PLAY WHEN WE WANT YOU TO
how is this game even up and running still
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This is now a ranger memorial thread

[thread theme]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csBluZ2_Pgg
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>>184135641
Dressup and erp
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The answer lies within the heart of battle...

Why in the fuck is Junkyard dog 9.5 mil?
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>>184132058
The whole weak bullet replacing normal attacks is bullshit but they also need to allow faster PP regen through normal attacks. Also, buff fucking moving snipe.

>>184133883
Collection Files are cancer, fucking unlucky babies complaining.
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>>184135475
I'm literally playing hero now and realizing that this is exactly the ranged class I wanted all this time. No bullshit standing still, no worrying about PP management all the time, no PAs that take forever to charge, to shoot and scoot for fun.

It's great and fun to play, I like it but it's also sad how worthless it has made ranger.
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>>184136208
Good thing Sega isn't pandering to people like you.
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>>184136886
Not that guy but Austere weapon craft is way better than the CFs
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>>184122248
You are asking on the wrong place. People here are mostly 'feeling elitists' and feel superior than others coz they can read some basic jp text. Anyhow, try to either download the latest tweaker or fix permissions. Those 2 are the most common culprits.
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>ep 5
>Io still a child
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>>184139007
I want Io and Stratos as the meat in a goblin sandwich.
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>>184139007
>Io
Old and busted. I have a new favorite blue haired qt now.
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>>184139670
suddenly I lost whatever respect I had left for you
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>>184137141
I don't mind stones, they serve the same purpose of CF, that guy just sounded like he wants RNG to be the only way of getting weapons.
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>>184140394
>having respect for me in the first place, no matter how little
w e w lad
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>>184137141
go back to RO then
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>>184140718
You really are a slut.
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I want goblins to defile my waifus!
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What's the latest drama?
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>>184140596
RNG should be the only way of progressing period.
Also remove vraolet.
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saving females from goblins is my job
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>>184144578
implying they want to be saved
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>>184144578
you're the goblin
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<3 two great runs!
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>>184144873
hey buddy the challenge mile boost was last week
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>>184144578
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>tfw spent the rest of money for ilya's voice over ticket

I'm a disgustong human but i gotta do it for my waifu
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>>184144959
they have boosts now? awesome! I do it for fun =)
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>>184145058
I hope you upgraded your gear first
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>>184145229
My hero and summoner gear were already upgraded
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>>184144685
no, i hate perverted rape races
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Stratos is short
can womanlet be a hero?
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>>184145596
Does it bring up bad memories?
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>>184145775
Of course. Heroes come in all shapes and sizes.
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>>184145775
I want to stick my hero sword in her and fire all my spirit bullets.
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advanced classes after hero

same requirements as hero
Agent:
knuckles
katana
gunslash

all base striking classes to 80
Vanguard:
partizan
double saber
jet boots

all base striking classes to 80
Acromaster:
wire lance
twin dagger
dual blade

all base range classes to 80
Protranser:
launcher
bullet bow
assault rifle

all base tech classes to 80
Esper:
rod
wand
takt

like with the first advanced class Hero each weapon gets unique animations and abilities for the advanced class
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>>184146543
>Vanguard
Isn't that BR.
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The old lobby looked really gritty, i think i like it more then the current one.
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>>184146543
No fuck you put knuckles and jetboots together
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>>184147621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13WKIha59Ns
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>>184146543
can we have new weapons already
knuckles, jetboots, gunchucks
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So what's the verdict on Force now that the dust has settled? I made all my fodder but I got cold feet on affixing until the balance patch actually came out.
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>>184147087
vanguard was called braver in the jp version of phantasy star portable 2 and classes in that game were fully customizeable
http://psp2.psupedia.info/Type_Extend.html
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>>184148873
Still a good mobbing class
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>>184146543
We need an advanced class that uses jetboots alongside another weapon at the same time. Not weapon switching. Something like jetboots+dualblades+takt. And your pet is always out, too. You can give basic commands but it mostly acts on it's own while you fly around slashing things
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>>184149432
>not merging with your pet
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>>184148873
It's complete garbage, force is one of the worst classes in the game at fighting bosses and not even the best mobbing class right now
>>184149056
Why would anyone play a class that isn't even better than the rest at mobbing if it can't boss anywhere close as well as the other good mobbing classes?
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>>184146543
>>184149432
>takt
lol
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Hero is top fun.
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>>184151178
Makes me realize more and more how unfun A.I.S. is
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What's the use of playing any of the other classes over the likes of hero, fighter, and gunner? Is it to feel like a cuck?
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Just installed and played the game for 30 minutes planning to try fi/hu.
On fighter I put a point into wind parrying, did I fuck up and have to wait 24 hours to delete/restart the character?
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>>184151817
If you enjoy the other classes so much you don't mind operating at 50-80% of the power of good classes.
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>>184151817
>playing gunner
your class is just as shit as the others, don't lump it in with the glorious hero and fighter bulls
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>>184152350
wind parry is fine
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>>184146543
same requirements as hero
Agent: (the Agent Rolf in phantasy star 2 uses dual knives, katana-like swords, and small guns)
twin daggers
katana
gunslash

all base striking classes to 80
Vanguard: (unlimited lance works)
partizan
double saber
dual blade

all base striking classes to 80
Acromaster: (doing flips and shit)
wire lance
knuckles
jet boots

all base range classes to 80
Protranser: (heavy guns and tactical nuke traps)
launcher
bullet bow
assault rifle

all base tech classes to 80
Esper: (now with time magic and pet fusions)
rod
wand
takt
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>>184152428
GU is up there for bosses.
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>>184152714
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>>184152428
>Having to lower your own hp to near zero in order to have any relevance at all
Fighters need to stop considering themselves on par with heroes
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reminder Hero Boost means you'd better treat Hero as Dante Must Die mode
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Alright so why does it say Lv.1 next to Hero PA names? Is there a way to increase their level?
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>>184153402
All the while also constantly weapon switching and doing ranged attacks to fill hero gauge
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>>184145775
Stratos is just a little girl
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Looking to play again after a long break, whats good now? I don't have gripes with playing any of them.
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https://twitter.com/Lunaz_pso2/status/890813089423040514
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>>184154218
Fighter, Gunner and Hero. Everything else pales in comparison right now, this is some ep2 shitty balance going on.
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>>184154674
Didn't Fo get every tech buffed?

Also how is Hu main class these days?
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>>184154674
And katana braver
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>>184154153
Shortstack
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>>184154841
Not even half of their techs, and it doesn't come close to compensating for 2min cooldown compounds. Almost all of the techs buffed were mobbing techs and even then most are still bad. Nazonde had its power doubled and it's still weaker than Hero just left clicking with sword.

Hu main is ok, if you're not playing one of the top 3 Hu isn't in that bad a spot. If you're not playing Hr/Gu/Fi you want to play Hu or Katana Br.
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>force an summoner are now irrelevant
Fucking deserved, now play a real class or stay eating shit taste retards.

OR BETTER YET KYS
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I don't understand all the class wars in a PVE game. Are people just upset that their favorite class isn't the best?
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>>184155564
Summoners are fine now though.
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Tech charge parrying works with Hero (only through casting techs, though, not the Talis's PAs)
Sword shift action has parry frames after one level of charged release
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>>184156132
What do you expect of people willing to play a f2p Japanese dress up game?
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>>184156132
They're upset because the balance is shit and performance gap is too big to the point that if you're not hero, fighter or gunner you're a leech.

Think about it. Either new content is going to be built around the new balance meaning MOST classes won't even be able to clear if not being carried or it's balanced around weaker classes meaning that you might as well idle I'm every room because the big three will just clear before you get a chance to do damage
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>>184156132
There's a difference between your class isn't the best which isn't why people are complaining and your class being half as strong as the good classes which is the actual case in ep5. Go ask a bow braver how they're enjoying ep5 right now
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>>184156768
>50pp for half the damage
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>>184150130
Force isn't dead, but they did make life much harder for us. Now that compounds are on a 2 minute cooldown, element mismatching is completely dead. You just don't have the PP to support light tech spam off element any more. Every element (except ice, they only have ilbarta still) has at least one or two fairly strong techs after the buffs but the damage isn't anything to write home about if you aren't element matching. Force could probably be salvaged if they helped us out with PP regeneration since we're still on the queen viera/orbit tech. PPC is only 30 seconds out of the 120s we need to fill between compounds. Considering hero TMG can regenerate PP faster than PPC does on no cooldown, I don't think it's that unfair to ask for help in this department.
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>>184157746
>force isn't dead
>but it's dead
just let it go
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> All LQs are currently boosted.
> No one is running LQ2 SH
> Everyone is running LQ 1-4
Why do this? SH LQ1-4 doesn't drop anything remotely good nor does it give as much exp as LQ2.
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>>184158420
Only dead if certain conditions can't be met, it's a small but very real difference. I'm trying to stay optimistic here. As long as we can match element and the content is friendly to the 1-2 good techs from an element, we're a solid middle of the pack class.
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>>184158556
on SH lq1-4 is way more exp for a similar clear time.
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>>184145775
She's just a little kid and Hero is basically her dumb fanfic class
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>>184158864
But you have to do that piece of shit Magatsu
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>>184151554
A.I.S. is the original hero class
>melee
>ranged
>massive burst every two minutes
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>>184158420
>>184158786
Of course this also means Force 100% needs rainbow palette for every element in relevant content now whereas before they could get away with using their very good Light weapon for things like wind. Unless you're a NEET you can't help but still be using things like Union and Astra for your off elements so that puts you behind even further.

On the bright side, wind is finally a real element and you only ~need~ a talis for it now.
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>>184159467
That piece of shit is worth 500k exp alone.
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>>184156768
>Go ask a bow braver how they're enjoying ep5 right now
You realize that 90% of these people were shitters who just spammed Million Storm everywhere in the first place, right
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>>184159467
The only piece of shit is you if magatsu is giving you trouble.
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>>184160178
Majority of fighter players don't TAJA or use the right PAs and constantly proc their 10/10 Iron Will but we don't talk about them when we talk about how overtuned Fighter is right now. Shitters will be shitters regardless of how good their class is.
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>>184159467
magatsu isn't even the shit, it's the lil' A.I.S. niggas that can combo you if you aren't careful at most
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Did they kill one of the stone trade NPCs? I liked running by the two of them.
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>>184160513
You get one or the other depending on the block like Dudu or Monica.
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>>184160429
Just kill them on foot first or have someone laser a few of them down.
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>>184160513
They got the Monica/Dudu treatment, they alternate blocks now.
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>>184160429
Can't you melt the evil AIS with hero TMGs now?
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Some of us assumed cross-block matching would actually work like Battle Arena matching does, in that you get the little window with the elapsed time and how many people had filled and it wouldn't start until it had 12 and why the fuck doesn't it actually work like that what the fuck
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>>184160606
I can spawn kill two of them with sword before they ever start moving, exodas melt to anything.
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How rare are the ryona guro game weapon camos from the battle scratch?
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>>184160606
They were never that tough to take down

The problem is always people ignoring them until it's too late
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what level should i start worrying about affixes? is it right to say i should have a hiei set and use that to affix?

does item grind affect affixing?
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>>184160568
>>184160598
>They look and sound exactly the same
>The only real difference between them now is their name
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>>184160795
Really, it'd be a non issue if people just went straight for them first instead of being fucktards shooting at sai.
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>>184151817
The real cucks are the ones who play pos2 instead of xiv
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>shlq 1-4
>rush and kill everything so easily
>hero time solo the last room
>tryhard fo barely got to hit anything
lawl
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>>184160949
Once you enter SH you should start looking into the process at least

Grinding does not affect it at all
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>>184160949
Item grind does not affect affixing, though you should max grind your equips either way. You can just use a poor man's 3-4s affix on any serviceable 11* unit set to tide you over until you get 12*s.
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HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
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>>184160949
Never
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>>184161374
The cooldown doesn't even matter anymore because they can't even charge their compounds when everybody is a hero
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>>184161218
S-stop showing off
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>>184161374
You can still use compounds more often than hero time finish just because the latter takes so long to charge.
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>>184161750
Every EQ is taking longer than usual because of all the Hero newfags who don't know how to play their damn class

I could easily be doing twice as many compounds now if it weren't for the cooldown
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>>184161953
>implying hero even needs it to leave you eating dust
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>>184161980
How do you even go wrong with hero?
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So where are the hero parses
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>>184161750
I've been consistently charging compounds in Beach Wars in under a minute despite that still. We're also completely fucked on bosses, compounds took sub-40 seconds to charge against Deus Esca.
>>184161953
Ok but Hero Time Finish also does way more damage than a single compound not to mention their sustained damage is much higher anyway. My solo PD time is nearly double what it was pre-patch and the reason it's not worse is because of how much dead time there is where I can regen PP without being able to do anything else.
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>>184162352
Does parser even work for hero? I thought tyrone stopped updating it.
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>>184162527
>>184162352
definitely still works.
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>>184162527
it still shows the damage you deal
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Nothing makes me happier than all these Bow/Ranger/Force/Techer/Bouncer cucks crying about their class. You're all so stupid lmao
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WHY DOES NOBODY CHECK THE EXPERT MATCHMAKING OPTION? It's as if expert blocks still existed but somehow everyone decided not to go to them.
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Reminder to blacklist and report stinky fighters, forces, bouncers, techers, bravers, hunters, rangers, gunners and summoners.
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>>184163205
this was the aim all long. to make it more troublesome for elitists to avoid dodging the draft
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>>184163205
fucking this
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Expert is a placebo
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>>184163494
>elitists
Getting into expert isn't fucking hard in the least, it's just a precaution so you don't get an MPA full of retards using ungrinded, 20 ele Nox weps and taking 15 minutes for a single guruguru run.
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>>184163887
Getting a 12* arm unit is hard.
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>>184162527
Tyrone did in fact stop updating the program itself, but on startup it grabs the skills from ACT, which I still update
Hero's more or less 99% done
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Is there supposed to be a downside to rising slash?
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>>184165139
What kind of question is this? Holding Rising Slash isn't very high dps if that's what you're asking.
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When are they going to remove multi-block matching? It's not fun starting an EQ at 3/12 because everyone else accidentally chose to jump to another block.
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Let's think up cool poses for weapon when other advanced classes get them

-Keep the katana sheathed and use it like a club
-Malicious spearchucker wildman for partisans
-A mysterious pose where you cradle one of your knuckles like a newborn baby as you squat over the other one, attempting to insert it into your anus
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>>184166818
Gunslash: You wave it around like a wand to use techs.
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>>184166818
>tmg
>you shoot in your face with one and your pets are summoned
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>>184167393
>knuckles
>you access your wrist to summon your pets
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>>184166818
A mysterious pose where you cradle one of your knuckles like a newborn baby as you fight with a ladder.
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What the fuck are you guys talking about?
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>>184168387
ur mum
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Why is beach wars so garbage
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>>184169159
It's the best seasonal since choco though, we need less guruguru and more fixed spawns.
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Post your crush!
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>>184169681
It would just be my own character so there's no point.
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>>184169237
its shit m8
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puddings p cute
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your crush
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I was so sleepy last night i couldnt even complete kuron exploration help
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>>184169237
Ok but the rewards and files are crap
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>>184170328
huh?
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>>184169681
I don't have pics of Youmu on this computer.
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>>184169681
behoimi
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>>184169681
kogasito
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>>184169237
>Episode 4 and anime characters (save for Nagisa)
>Mandatory destroy Gel wulfs with the cannon deliberately blocked by Biol medunas fat ass
>Best seasonal
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>press katana combat
>not sure if its qactivated
>press it again
>it ends

HELP
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>>184171682
she's too THICC
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>>184169681
Ishya
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>>184169681
>tfw no one has a crush on me
feeslbadman
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>>184172245
shinguru pls
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>>184172245
who u
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>>184171682
>anime characters still
They'll stop pushing them by next year, right?
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>>184172591
smu
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>multi-block matching
>thrown into a 1/12
Thanks
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>go on XH block
>create EQ as it starts
>make sure expert is unchecked
>go multiblock matching
>1/12
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>>184173128
>>184173186
My MPA has 7 people. Why the hell aren't you being included?
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>>184172245
me too anon
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Which Hero skills are must-max?
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>20 minutes later
>MPA is still stuck at 5
>matchmaking didn't put anyone here
>more people have left than been added
Why do I even bother with this matchmaking?
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Did they give another free character with Ep5?
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>>184175290
Haven't tried but didn't hear anyone talking about it so probably no.
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>>184174925
Even if you don't do cross block matchmaking it's slower because most people have started to crossblock. MPAs take several minutes to fill sometimes, I've only gotten 4 beach wars once.
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So nafoie is actually good now right? Can I just spam it with hero while equipping a PP convert ring?
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How can one person Level up from 1 to 75 in two days after the Hero class was released?

Example: From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2paW5_WUPA

To: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLLp1YYozE
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>>184176297
I got from 1 to 75 in less than 20 hours though, and I'm sure there are people who did it in less than 2 hours.
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>>184176467
Well how did you do it?
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>>184176297
LQ boost help a lot.
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>>184176297
Its not hard to do it. Lilith literally powerleveled hero one day after the class came
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>>184176297
i got to 75 within 5 hours because i stocked up on exp tickets + a couple of bonus keys and finished it off with sh ep1-4. it is seriously the easiest it's ever been to level right now because of the LQs
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>>184176297
SH LQ 1-4 gives me over 1.5m exp and can be done in 5minutes by a decent group of heroes. Then there's people who saved up tokyo tickets for even more exp.
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>>184176564
From that Boss Rush quests, I bet.
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>>184176297
>1 to 75 in two days
lol
try in 2 hours and even that's if you're lazy as fuck
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>>184176297
I got to 80 in less than 18 hours and didn't even have keys to speed my ass. I know of people that did in 8 hours thanks to transferring keys from other ships.
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>>184175728
>tech gets buffed
>hero is the class talked about
I hate ep5 so fucking much. Anyway, no you shouldn't do that. Hero doesn't have great element matching skills. Since you don't have those, Nafoie is worse DPP and DPS than Ragrants still.
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Would Yamato TMGs and Crit Strike ring be good on Hero?
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>>184176543
Used a stockpile of 15k EXP tickets to get to level 48. Did LQ2 and beach wars on VH until I hit 55, then LQ2 on SH for a few hour until I hit 70, then spent about 8 bonus keys including a Tokyo gold to get to 75.
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>>184177442
But anon, hero's tech casting is just as strong as force's and it doesn't have to worry about rainbow palettes.
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Is there a fast way to level a ranger i keep dying as braver ;_;
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>>184178062

tons of people are leveling heros in SH LQs, just leech
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>>184177979
Yes, that's why I'm annoyed.
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Playing anything but hero is literally leeching.
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>>184178153
Ugly dog post
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>>184178153
Fighter and Gunner are acceptable for bossing quests, Fighter and Katana Braver for mobbing quests
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>>184178751
>fighter for mobbing
Zondeel > chaos riser, Force is nice to have

Also techer is nice for both :>
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>>184178926
Force is an irrelevant class, they offer nothing that isn't done better by others
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>>184176297
I did it in like 20(?) hours total, used a few exp tickets to get to 40, did some LQs for a while and then keys/LQ for 75+
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>Hero left clicking with sword is more dps than anything bow braver has
Can't make this shit up, how's it feel to be btfo cucks?
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Is normal attack the highest DPS that sword hero has? I've seen videos where they keep using it even when their PP is full.
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I don't know much about Fo/Te, is playing only with a Talis is good or you really need a Rod too?
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>>184179505
No but it's extremely good. >>184179269 isn't memeing, that's actually close to the case though I think master shot on paper is still higher dps than sword. The third hit of sword combo hits super hard for how fast it is but even doing 1+2+3 left clicking is fairly high dps. In terms of best case scenario, they have several stronger PAs but you still want to use Normal Attack 3 when you queue up to it instead of using a PA.
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>>184179768
You really need both. You don't need rod+talis for every element but several elements do ask both of you. Turn back now imo, Force is one of the most gear intensive classes in the game now for not nearly enough reward.
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>>184180284
desperate/10
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Who's the cutest looking guy here?
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>>184181062
definitely me, no contest
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>>184180038
thanks anon, I still want to try it since I'm bored of my class right now and its look fun. I'm just not a big fan of the rod.
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>>184181250
Show me, I've only seen a picture of solus and hes a cutie
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>>184180284
3/10
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>>184181291
>it looks fun
Play talis hero, it's the same thing without being fucked over with Element Conversion, and Hero Time Finish is better than compounds.
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>>184178153
a single techer is acceptable to have in your mpa though. make those heroes even stronger.
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is loli of astora still the best looking girl?
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>>184181874
yes
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>>184181874
>tfw still have her nudes
wew
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>>184181403
I wonder if solus masturbates to his own character
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>>184183156
It's not a good character if you can't masturbate to it.
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>>184172506
that ain't me
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How many likes do you have on your fashion catalog?
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>>184183968
99 views, 66 likes
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>match for Yamato
>1/12
Nice game
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>>184177442
>DPP
Shouldn't this be DPPP or am I misreading it
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>>184184791
You're reading it correctly, Damage per PP. DPP is just the abbreviation commonly used so that's what stuck.
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>>184185072
Yeah, I was thrown off for a bit since DPS is damage per second

I guess they're just saving space and three Ps in a row looks silly
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>>184176297
At least two people in EDF are already 80.
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>all atk units weren't a meme, you actually really want them for hero
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>>184186137
Not necessarily, all three weapons are self-sufficient on their own. Talis hero is the worst but it's still better than bouncer.
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>>184186528
They're all fairly self sufficient but optimal play will require all atk units. Talis is stronger than people give it credit for and TMGs are extremely useful in certain situations. Sword is self explanatory as the "main" weapon of the class.
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>>184186137
>Implying I'm not using my satk/tatk hybrid mag and units on my techer who's also now a hero
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>>184186528
>talis hero is the worst
this says a lot considering it's unironically a better caster than force
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>>184186695
Hero Mag eliminates any worries about that particular part of it

How you build your units are still a modest concern at least
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What the fuck, dive bullet has such insane DPPP. I can just side strafe enemies to death with this all day.
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I just started playing today, got to level 20 or so

Does the combat really consist of 1 basic attack + 1 ability + 1 dodge, or am I missing something? Seems really simple and boring
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>>184188020
Welcome to hero. They wanted to make sure they didn't do a repeat of ep4 and release an underpowered new class (again) so they decided to make it impossible for hero to be bad. Even if the damage numbers weren't as high as they are, Hero has the best PP regen in the game and tools for every situations.
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>>184188114
Most weapons have several "Photon Art" moves you can use, although there's usually only a few worth using depending on the situation. You'll need to find, trade, or purchase PA discs in order to use them.

Casting weapons work a little differently, they have their own stockpile of elemental "techniques" (i.e. magic spells) that function similarly and also require you to acquire technique discs to use.

This is a pretty broad overview.
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>>184188114
There are at least 8 attacks per weapon type, but you unlock them. check the visiphone and you can buy discs for all but the rare ones for under 10k meseta.
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>>184188114
You could have just googled "photon art" instead of asking this extremely basic question
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>>184188627
Considering he used the word "ability" instead I'm not sure he could have
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>>184188335
If the damage numbers weren't high we'd probably be arguing about whether or not "the best PP regen in the game" was enough to save it
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>>184188820
Depends on how much lower the numbers were. Right now Sword normal attack straight out beats everything bow has and TMG normal attack is about even with max possible bow dps in ep5. And this is with access to a better PP convert on no cooldown with the caveat you can't attack during it. It could take quite a hit and still not be anywhere close to bottom 3 classes with the tools it has.
>>
Since Hero is a combo-centric class what are the best techniques to combo for talis

Should I stick to subpalette casting or do I attach them to a separate talis weapon palette slot
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>>184189246
I'm sure you're not wrong but wouldn't the more relevant comparisons be with Sword on Hunter and TMG on Gunner instead of bow of all things
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>>184188114
Watch a YouTube video that has advanced gameplay it may change your opinion.
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>1-4
>get matched with my kind
>5 minute run
>get matched with forces and hunters
>10minutes
We might need to start xing every force out of quests
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>>184189471
In terms of game balance, all that matters is the overall potential of the class regardless of weapon. I just like using bow to highlight how comical it is that there's a class who can't compete with Hero holding left click. Not that I'm claiming Hero is overpowered when there's other problem classes, it's just a very strong class from a mechanical point of view. Though I am mad about Hero casting being better than Force depending on how you frame the word "better."
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>>184073784
Low mem mesh rape, reboot
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I wish they were more up front about how JA works on Hero. The JA circle flashes for things that can't be JA'd like TMG normal attack and it's kind of annoying.
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SAO is shit and these devs are shit. Hope to god this royal cock up is biting so deep into their AC sales that people are getting fucking fired.
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>>184192259
What?
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>>184191974
>The JA circle flashes for things that can't be JA'd like TMG normal attack
You can JA that, though.
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>>184188020

whats dive bullet?
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>>184192762
Talis's attack that can switch to TMG
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>>184192564
It's the exact same damage though, am I missing something?
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>>184191974
You can JA everything, the first attack you use will be JA'd regardless, that's all there is to it
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>>184192259
Honestly if anything is going to get them it's how useless multi-block matching is, maybe class balance perceptions. Things that actually have a direct impact on the gameplay's playability.

The game world's story and aesthetics have mostly been a secondary concern from the start

>>184192457
He does not care for the association with current popular Japanese media trends that the development team is using as a roundabout excuse to revisit, on the series' 30th anniversary year, a higher fantasy aesthetic that had mostly abandoned after PSIII in 1990
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>>184193004
You're most likely doing it straight unsheathed resulting in >>184193021
For an accurate reference, hold down the button during a PA so it comes out with no JA
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>>184193134
>>184193021
That explains it, I didn't know that.
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>>184193021
>>184193134
It's specifically the First Blood skill that auto-JAs the first attack, correct?
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Does anyone know how big the highest rare drop timed ability is?
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>>184193551
Rare Drop Up Level 5 is 5%
Stacks with other units with the same for up to 15% total
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>>184193790
Awesome. Thanks, anon.
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How come no one plays as a CAST? Why is everyone a half-naked girl?
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Do solo XQ illusias count for CF? Beach sheets are miserable without farming her outside of the eq.
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>>184194494
I see male casts and caseals in the lobby all the time, what are you talking about?
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>>184194494
Japs have no creativity. The few cast I have seen have been really unique but I yearn for the day I can find a cute female cast that actually looks like a cast and not a generic anime girl.
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>>184193551
depends on area, but it's <listed number%>, so rare drop 5 is 5% per unit.
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>>184193878
>>184194865
Oh that's true. Probably should point out that not all target areas go up to level 5
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>every pub force has bottom parsed since ep5
Did they finally fucking succeed in killing this cancer once and for all?
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>>184195241
Do you expect us to take your word for it or are you not going to post some (names properly redacted) data
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>>184194708
If they would ever give us parts to look like a full on mech rather than anime waifu parts, at the very least have a parts section for the anniversary design contest.
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>mfw fornis rifle drop @ 33 cap
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>>184195241
Parsers aren't allowed Anon. Just play the game without it.
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>>184195561
Nothing stopping someone from changing numbers to fit a narrative, it's a text file
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>>184196123
don't people usually take a screencap of the live window
photoshop is a thing but that's usually more effort than it's worth
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>>184194708
It doesn't help that the vast majority of female cast heads have fleshy parts somewhere. I see lots of female casts trying to pull off a fully robotic look but with fleshy jaws so they have to make their skin pitch black to hide it.
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How popular is this game in Japan?
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>>184193494
Yes.
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>>184196251
You can edit that after the fact too
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>>184196309
Sega consistently mentions PSO2 in its shareholder briefings as one of its top earners.
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>>184195872
mfw my dick in ya mouf
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>>184194708
What is this ugly all pink fleshbot, post a real full metal robot.
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>>184195872
>weapon for a clunky, irrelevant class
lucky you
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>>184196719
>>184197058
thanks for reminding me.
>>
https://twitter.com/HF_Angel_Addict/status/890920925519986688
This is your advanced class
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>>184197507
ezgewwww
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>>184197507
how is he doing that
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>>184197507
It's people like this that cause things to be nerfed. Hero is strong enough without using an auto click script.
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>>184197917
You do know that just having a left click macro won't let you do that, right? That seems to be either a hack or an incredibly specific bug.
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>>184197721
>>184197917
>>184199112
pso2g everyone
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>>184199112
yeah, the speedhack allows that for every single class, I hope the jp report him
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>>184199319
A cuck everyone.
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>>184199471
a nig everyone
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>>184199556
john lenon everyone
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anyone know some recommended PA setups for knuckles?
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How the fuck do you fight Vegas Illusia? I'm trying to solo the ep4 LQ and this bitch is driving me nuts.
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>>184200072
hit it until it dies
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>>184199940
stratos a loudmouth shit
>>
Anyone got voice files for Deus Esca
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>>184161000
>line of burger
>not a burger
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>>184201873
Won't get it until the next SG scratch.
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>>184202013
>implying
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>>184202013
I mean voice rips, not ingame voice ticker, people had done them for loser and others
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>>184203552
more
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WHERE DOES HIEI LEG DROP I DIE IN 2 HITS IN VH KURON EXP SEND HELP
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>>184203756
buy in shop
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>>184203807
I looked and for some reason I cant find it in player shops anywhere
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>>184203839
i hope you aren't using item translation and searching english names
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>>184203895
I am but i just manually filtered the star rating and couldnt find it
>>
Whoever designed the Rideroid controls for the Las Vegas level needs to be fired immediately
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>>184203959
Just use the filter and not put anything in the search bar, just the cat, subcat, rarity and maybe like a 100,000 minimum is enough to find one.
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>>184199940
Them cape physics.
>>
>>184203895
Also if I'm a shitter can I just use Average stance and put my excess points into shit like

https://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?12eNbCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIo0jdodBIb000000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn000000002OqB4NfdA6rAHSGKdobn00000fdoIb0000000jdB0000000dBIb0000008
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>>184151554
Heresy. AIS is the best thing about this game.
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>>184204538
AIS ruins td but good otherwise
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>>184204538
Would be more fun if they came with a A.i.s unit for each attack type you could choose from
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>>184204704
You mean soon to be hero, that's what will really kill TD
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>>184203756
drops like candy in yamato, look for
リア/ヒエイホウヨク
アーム/ヒエイソウ
レッグ/ヒエイショク
in player shops, upgrade to saiki whenever you have stats
>>
1 to 10, how likely HERO is getting nerfed?

I'd say 6
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>>184207515
0
This update should tell you how much sega cares about game balance.
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>>184207515
if bug fixes count as nerf, it's a 10
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>>184207515
I can see maybe talis and sword's shift actions requiring some PP to use at least
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i want to be a robogirl shooting things is ranger good, are you supposed to weak bullet then just switch to launcher or can you switch to another raifu
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>>184207782
You won't be using regular attacks with rifle at all. Ranger is very bad.
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How do I stop caring about the parser?

Ever since I downloaded and started using it all a care about is wether or not I am dealing the most damage and wether or not others are dealing enough damage. I am becoming obsessive over it to the point where I'm staring at it during my runs. This is making the game more competitive than it needs to be and it's driving crazy.
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>>184208704
realise and accept that there are people better than you, worse than you, and who play differently to you. turn on expert block matching
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>>184208704
>wanting people to carry their weight is bad
you're becoming a libcuck
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>>184207740
>PP recovery actions requiring PP
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Anyone have any recommendations on a new hairstyle for my cast? I've been looking through the shops for a while now, and none of them are fitting the warrior aesthetic i'm trying to maintain.
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>>184208704
by posting parses.
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>>184209454
>tfw Fi comes in third
I think Fi will be alright
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>>184209454
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>mother once a month
>astra drop chance isn't 100%
(You)
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>>184209739
Beach war thunder hammer drops Astra.
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>>184209674
This is mother? Damn that whole list is pathetic if so.
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>>184209852
yep, this hour
those 2 other Fi's are probably just bandwagoners
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>>184209674
the hell did you parse to get such excessive numbers? Surely it cant be mother because those numbers seem way too skewed.
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>>184209804
he drops bad fornises
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>>184209972
It's because it a 13m18s run that's why
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A multiship run but nonetheless
>HE
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>>184210350
Is Double Saber FI a thing now?
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>>184210350
>mfw force and su cucks on suicide watch becuase they didnt nerf fi
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>>184210535
Fighters fastest pd time is with ds only
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>>184175728
Spam it with the Flame Tech S Charge ring.
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>>184210535
Double Saber is busted dood but it requires skillful timings
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>>184210535
>now
don't be one of those bandwagonning faggots anon
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>>184210641
Shame I hate using Limit Break.
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>>184189265
You get at least one tech slot on the talis since there are only four PAs.

For some reason they didn't think to let you equip techs on the sword and TMG palettes so those both just have a wasted empty slot.
>>
Do i just vendor 7 star weapons? is there anything I can exchange them for?
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what is the level cap bonus for hero?
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>>184199913
Flicker Jab -> Straight Charge Type-0 for everything.
Ducking Blow to dodge.
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>>184211039
Playing with autists I see
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>>184211135
flash thousand bad now?
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>>184211039
ok sinclair
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Fi is le balance xdDddxdDDDXD :^)
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post the biggest meme in this patch
>meseta crystal
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>>184212176
that is backwards dude
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>>184210350
>Using some random pub HEs as an example
Considering how Hero is the actual high skill high damage class, that's not exactly indicative of anything.
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>>184212601
Was about to say something then I remembered Fi + Izane + Iron Automate
Hero has a fucking built in Gix skill doesn't it?
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>>184212601
Woah dude taking words out of my mouth much?
Feel free to post your hero parse demolishing mine though
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>>184212875
Yup. If you take 20% of your health in damage in a short period of time you lose up to a 60% damage modifier that slowly builds back up over time, and can be reset again whenever you take too much damage. That's way more harsh than anything fighter deals with, and honestly how limit break should probably work.
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>>184173393
I'm leading to believe it's not pairing people up with people that are in full blocks. I wouldn't put it past fucking sega to do that.
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Isn't Hero kind of a failure gameplay wise? Like it feels better not to focus on intricate comboing at all, and the normal attacks/weapon actions get the most attention
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>>184213163
>If you take 20% of your health in damage in a short period of time
That's not as bad as I thought it was, I thought any tap would cancel it out.
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>>184213513
I actually do play Hero like I'm in a character action game, even though I know that TMG melts 99% of the enemies I come across.
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>>184213841
Hero is how BO should've been.
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>>184214000
witnessed
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>>184213768
Most any attack in relevent content is enough to do that, though. If you have 1,200 HP you can take only 240 damage in a short period (don't know how long exactly, I'd say about 20 seconds), which is very unforgiving in pretty much any relevant content.
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I mother fucking hate this matchmaking crap.
>>
EQs are unplayable because of this bullshit matchmaking. FUCKING SEGA.
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For once I'm getting good runs with the new matching
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>>184215467
Makes me not want to play the fucking game because getting into a group is a fucking pain.
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>>184212206
Are you suppose to refine them some how then sell for more money? If not then there just wasted space
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>>184215467
i got 3 runs on the extra hard block
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>tfw everyone else has Qliphad weapons and I feel completely worthless for missing out on them
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>>184216341
>thinking getting 3 runs is good
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>>184214065
I feel like short of going full firesword with the likes of astral/stam5/elegant stam+extras on izane, almost any hit will be enough to put you under that 20% anyway, rendering it pointless.

>>184215467
Almost feels like it's a premium restricted function: you effectively wont have great luck with matchmaking because it find and empty block and dumps you in there. If there's no regular space, and you're not premium? you're probably going to a new ded block with just you as a multi in it. This is just guesswork, but given sega's track record? I wager it's how it works.
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>>184216539
best ive gotten is 4 but im ok with 3, i had about 2 minutes to retry but some party member was dicking around picking shit up so i didnt want to be rude
>>
So Hero is actually weak, right?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJDwQ_dIwg
I was reminded of how good this track was
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>>184217072
Are you having a laugh?
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>>184217072
It is either top tier, or somewhat weak, depending on how good you are at not getting hit.
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>>184217271
It's worse than fighter while being hard to play
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>>184217661
>It's worse than fighter
Nah, actually.
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>>184216485
Right there with you. Not too bad though considering it's about the only thing I missed when taking a year long break. Now if only there were more Deus EQs or if we could buy triggers for it...
>>
>stinky delusional fighters think theyre better than HERO
LAMO fuck off
>>
How rare is the 1-4 unit
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>>184217716
Solo PD is gimmicks so it's not that convincing yet
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>>184219107
Found 4 in about 20-30 runs? Pretty common for me.
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>>184219107
rare enough that everybody I know who wants it has it, some that dont want it have it, and I don't have it despite wanting it.
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>>184219107
Found 0 in about 40-50 runs? Almost nonexistent.
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Hero's OP hype dies off the moment you hit XH and realise things move and hit faster than a snail's pace and that combos really aren't that great when they hold you in place and you lose your 60% bonus. Back to fighter I go.
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>>184219107
Over 200 runs during boost week 350%. None of my group of 4 that I ran with got it.
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>>184220575
You're playing hero wrong if you're not canceling into hero counter at every opportunity.
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>>184220864
It's still strictly inferior to other classes that don't have to dodge
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>>184220575
>stinky
>delusional
>fighter
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>>184221010
It very much is not. Do you not know how powerful hero counter is?
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>>184221243
Nobody cares what you think though.
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>>184220864
>110% at Lv 5
Is it worth capping it?
>>
>>184221432
Probably, yeah. 10% isn't much of a modifier, but making one of your strongest attacks stronger can never hurt.
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>>184221432
I think so. 10% for 5 points is actually very efficient. Even if it's a little situational you'll have plenty of opportunities to use it.
>>
https://twitter.com/LAGGIE_O_Riley/status/890622660735938561
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>play hero
>easily wreck Phaleg without much difficulty
>solo PD keeps kicking my ass

Is this normal?
>>
>>184222090
Opposite situation for me.
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Whats the best hero units?
Currently rocking Astra.
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>>184222090
Solo PD only wrecked me three times because I wasn't fully used to Hero. Don't be discouraged, you just need to learn how to use Hero to your advantage (use the sword dash to escape the cars, tag balls with fidget spinner build up your meter and you can Sword hero time after all balls are gone and completely skip the wall spinning).
It completely trivializes the second part, too, due to hero counter. But the stunning balls take some time to get adjusted to.
>>
Is there a way to make upslotting less of a gamble?
Im trying to get 6 slots but the percentages are 60%-40% across the board. I have been trying to save my goods boosts so i have been using 10% but I keep failing. Is there a trick to this? I'm running out of excubes.
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>>184224001
40% + boost week.
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>>184222090
Did first hero solo pd run just a while ago, was actually easier and faster than any other class I've tried. Can pierce double legs with tmg pa hitting the cores making him simple and escape cars with talis teleport to sky or zoom around with sword dash. Apparently I stunned one of pd's parts for the entire duration of the first phase allowing me to just shoot him until he went 2nd phase where I just did tmg things. For 3rd I played around with sword getting hero counters and for persona pre charged aura blasts and did a hero counter beating him with ease then sword hero finished off pd.
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>people still cant clear lq 1-4 on XH
Every group im in always bottleneck at either the wyverns or sai. My friends and team dont even want to run despite them saying they want the rear unit. Guess i may as well not bother anymore
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>look in even blocks
>monica
>look in odd blocks
>also monica
they fired dudu.
>>
>>184224578
what ship are you on? If 2 rip.
>>
Are the platidorus' weapons available?
>>
How do I get better at timing my dodges? Shit always hits me still even after getting the hero counter sound.
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>>184225878
Play Dark Souls like me :)
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>>184224945
Yeah it is on 2. Ive been considering moving to 4 since the player quality and economy isnt completely fucked
>>
Fact: There are far more bad japs than gaijins.
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>>184226389
No shit, there are far more japs than gaijins
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>>184226389
Only if you're not playing on 2.
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>>184226171
I played the first two, they weren't very fun, and I don't think the dodging would help me with this at all because it's a bit hard to dodge tons of random things at once rather than just learning the timings of single opponents.
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>>184226554
Don't be mad just because the superior nationality trumps the japs, even on their home turf
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>>184226723
Were you playing hunter before moving to hero? Because I think hero doesn't get the period of invulnerability after the counter unlike hunter, at least that's what I'm noticing. I might just be retarded though.
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>>184227018
I've played everything fairly evenly over the years, I'm just really having a hard time making good use of hero without it feeling like I would end up better just spamming things. I definitely prefer hunter sword over hero's though, felt much tighter in general.
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So as hero im supposed to do weapon seitch combos 24/7 to build of gear instead of just being a gorilla with sword or tmg like everyone else right? Because i see! to get atleast 2+ hero times everytime i do XH quest including solo PD
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so is there a mod to replace hero gear with DMC's style meter yet
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>>184226554
>this is what OH shitters believe
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>>184228243

Not him but I made a character on 2 a few years back to try it out and see what it was like.

Pubbing was a fucking nightmare.

I dont know how things are now, but back then there were shitloads of dumb weeb kids spamming edgy autowords at every fucking corner filling the screen while dying left and right.
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>>184228838
>I went to block 1 at 4 am JST
>he entire ship must be like that :(
ship4 rules!!!!
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>>184214065
at least infection blasts won't fuck you like they do gunners
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>material storage isn't even included in premium
How jewish can Sega get?
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>>184228838
you're a special type of child aren't you
>>
Please help me not mess up EQ matchmaking this time: I'm a non-premium player in a full EH block. I currently do not have experts only selected, and I suffer from a moderate case of gaijin ping.
What kind of matching do I select to get a 12/12 party right at the beginning? :D
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>>184229975
match on block. i dont care which beacuse I always mange to get 12/12 with matchmaking.
>>
what the fuck is up with the new matching system? When i do same block, i get kicked from the block i was at, when i do cross blocks im stuck at 10/12 for 5 minutes.
>>
And here we see a Hero using the fully charged version of the sword weapon action.
>>
So how do you level Hu from Lv 51 when you went Gu/Ra? I know my Gu can still be relevant these days but I don't think I can even rely on the all-class rifle now.
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>>184232042
feed bonus keys/leec heroes doing lq
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>>184232042
All class rifle. Thats literally it.
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>>184232042
Buy a keen cycler and grind it, then leech off everyone running LQ1-4.
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>>184232127
>>184232138
>>184232651
Welp. Thanks, anons. I'll get to it then after I get Hero to 75.
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https://twitter.com/utyuuokusennman/status/891334989182255104
Is pso2 evolving or devolving?
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>>184230885
that's still fomelgion
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>>184232909
this is some maplestory tier shit
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>>184230083
I tried same block without expert: I got into a 7/12 that didn't fill, and spam refreshed the counter to see another room start and fill up. Next time I'll try with same block with experts.
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How fast are seiga files?
>>184233494
I tried same block matching and got 10/12 instantly without expert.
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I'm certainly not the first to do this, but this was way more fun than like, any other class on that list that isn't fi.
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>>184232909
Devolving, game is a big pile of bullshit.
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>>184234320
why are you still here
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>>184235813
Why are you?
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>>184236698
>>184236698
>>184236698

page 10 but with a reused op because no new EP
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>>184236138
Because I still enjoy the game.
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