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NEWS
>Hashino thanks western piggus: http://personacentral.com/message-director-katsura-hashino-celebrating-western-release-persona-5/
>New game domains registered: http://personacentral.com/potential-persona-5-spin-off-website-domains-registered-including-p5d-p5u/
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/
>BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle announced, will feature P4 cast: http://personacentral.com/blazblue-cross-tag-battle-announced-features-persona-4-arena/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S

GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
>Persona ISOs
mega.nz/#F!5iQAGTLB!U1LUUTLtawRdsWSDDFSAQQ

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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She's mine /pg/
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>God Tier
Makoto

>High Tier
Futaba
Hifumi
Takemi

>Mid Tier
Ann
Kawakami

>Low Tier
Chihaya
Haru

>Shit Tier
Ohya

Prove me wrong
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Akechi Goro.
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Obligatory Makoto post
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If you're not gonna post about Goro just fuck off already
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Akechi best boy!
Akechi is for Makoto!
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>183964756
Wrong.
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http://amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=FIGURE-032028

He's up
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>no art of phantom thief ohya with a fly mask
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She's mine /pg/
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Who put hickeys all over Akechi-kun's body?
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Attention everyone. This isn't a ritual post but I want to share something in my heart because the truth deserves to be free or something. I love Sae!

oh god, why did I write that, oh god oh god fuck fuck fuck
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Hey guys, can we please post cute Naotos? I need cute Naoto!
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>>183964756
I'd move Haru to High tier but I agree on pretty much everything
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Previous discussion was talking about heart-warming moments, so let's go: What heart-warming moments that probably happened off-screen would you like to have seen in P5? Yes, you can include Makoto in this if you want.
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>>183964906
>hair dye
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>>183964906
Nice try, you got that from a Sae/Tae poster.
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>>183964809
Fucking finally.
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>https://twitter.com/p_kouhou/status/890427105418203136
>"witness the crime of the port!"

WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS
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>>183964930
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>>183964954
Whenever Goro went to LeBlanc like a lost puppy because he had no friends but you.
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>>183964756
Ann is God tier and that's really all that matters.
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>you will never reassure your waifu that her private parts are in good order

jdimsa
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>>183964954
Makoto and Ann went on a crepe date after they apologized to each other in the student council room
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>>183965058
S U M A R U
U
M
A
R
U
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>>183964954
Goro's brutal death.
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>>183965058
>LIVESTEAM ANNOUNCED
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>183965058
Takashi Kido?
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>>183964632
How about Robbie Rotten Kanji for Nanjo?
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>>183965192
goro spinoff confirmed
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>>183965058
PC PORT CONFIRMED
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>>183964954
Sae and Makoto reconnecting after the PT's completed her palace. I'm sure there was a LOT of stuff they needed to talk about
>>183965124
I really wish they showed off that kind of stuff more, I really liked that scene they had in the council room
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>>183964961
they got it from me, I only like Sae.
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>>183965192
W-what? where I can't read moon
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Would you love your waifu if she became planet sized?
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>>183965265
Then you lied, that is a ritual post
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>>183965058
>Yokohama, a Japanese city south of Tokyo, was one of the first Japanese ports opened to foreign trade
he's just talking about the city
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>>183964954
Yusuke painting Ann
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How many black(colored) Ann fags do we have?
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>>183965192
Thank God. Gonna pick up some drinks and have a comfy time. Can we all agree on a truce to not shitpost for the duration of the actual concert portion of the stream?
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>>183965345
I'm not black, but I guess I'm colored.
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>>183965319
Shit.... fuck! I don't wanna be a ritual poster but I want to express my love every chance I can. What are my options?
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>>183965345
I'm glad Atlus hasn't included another racist waifu. I liked Yukaris design but she was definitely a racist. Ann seems real nice.
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>>183965345
Hopefully none.
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>>183965284
Open the p-ch link m8
livestream starts at the same time as the concert
We will need someone with a premium niconico account to restream just in case
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>>183965232
That description won't work. Maybe Kanji with a bib?
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>>183965487
>premium niconico account
welp
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>>183965467
how was Yukari racist?
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>tfw part of you wants to do another playthrough before the 2nd
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>>183965092
The more I think about him the more I feel sorry for him because even the false fame he clung to because he had nothing else vanished because of the PT, and the PT in spite of having actual bonds could have lost themselves to something he could see truthfully as being fleeting.

On top of that you can kick him down even more and tell him to leave, which he agrees to politely. Ouch.

>>183965124
This is one of the things I can agree to regarding Makoto, Ann's kindness and empathy is nicely shown, Makoto connects to her awkwardly and it's pure cuteness.

>>183965262
Oh, definitely. My reason for disagreeing with meeting cognitive Makoto is that it would have made no difference, while this scene adds character to both sisters especially as Makoto recognizing she could have lost her sister to justice would have made her realize why Sae is so sensitive to topics regarding their dad and his justice.

>>183965334
Heh.
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>>183965443
Just try not to be obnoxious about it.
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>>183965543
Yukari just seemed like the type of bitch to hate anyone not like her. I knew a couple of girls like that and Yukari hit all the check marks.
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what would Ohya's persona be?
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv303450709
Wait, are they saying that the viewing isn't free this time around and we need to buy tickets for it?
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>>183965543
>replying
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>>183965470
rude
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>>183965357
I hope you're ready for nothing but shitposting. Especially if something gets announced
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What time is this concert going to be?
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I love Ann.

good night /pg/
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>>183965734
I'm aware, I'd just like to have a comfy time during the concert portion. A calm before the storm.
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>>183965698
someone's gonna restream it anyways why does it matter
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>>183965785
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20170802T19&p0=667&msg=Persona+Super+Live+P-Sound+Bomb%21%21%21%21+2017&font=cursive
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>>183965345
Does mexican count?
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>Persona 5 concert will have announcements
>New Persona 5 book will be released
>Voltron season 3 comes out
>have Friday off
>New Snow White doll comes out

Next week is going to be great for me
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>Net ticket is necessary for viewing
fuck off
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>>183965659
Why do you reply to every one you loser.
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>>183965808
we all do anon
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>>183964954
Now that I think of it, Goro eating sushi with Sae would have been cute.
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>>183965808
good night, I think I should do the same
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>>183966015
No.
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>>183965834
>no shitposting with Nips on the chat
>no need to have your pc on for two days to keep your seat only to be kicked out right before the good part starts and fighting to get it back
>having to endure western shitposters
And we don't really have anyone to rely on this time around. Pepsiman quit Persona 2 years ago.
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>>183966015
No.
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>>183966015
Yeah.
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>>183965659
I'm not the anon that talked about cog makoto from last thread but I agree. The scene might not have been necessary,the development of the niijimas coming together and getting over the loss of their father and realizing their true justice together would have been great to see
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>>183966015
Maybe
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>niconico is not available out side of japan
sometimes I really hate Japan's xenophobia
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Why is Gackt in every JRPG?
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>Persona stalker club V Limited revival SP for one night only
Yeah right, one night and it will change into something else to promote spin-offs
Can't wait to see that bald bastard again
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>>183966304
Nipland will never care about gaijins, especially Atlus. Especially Atlus.
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>>183964632
you forgot boy Haru
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>>183966418
Haru isn't anything like Nanjo.
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>>183966203
Yeah, that would have been amazing and my major complaint about their suggestion anyway is that Makoto's shining moment was pretty much her awakening and she felt like such a watered down version of herself the rest of the game, so seeing more of that would be pretty damned irksome compared to what we could get of Makoto and Sae truly reaching out to each other just like how Sojiro vows to protect the PT as much as he can.
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I want Kawakami to give me a lap pillow.
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>>183966629
yeah I can agree with the sentiment, they really should have tied Sae in better with Makoto. Hopefully they address this if they ever make a rerelease.

I'm a makotofag and I felt kind of let down by how they handled the niijimas
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It's absolutely unnecessary to add any more Niijima content to the game, unless you're given the option to take Sae to the bone zone.
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How's this?
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>>183966861
Agreed, Makoto is wasted potential considering her screentime but especially considering she wanted to follow in her dad's footsteps but hardly appears to change her notion of justice after her arc. More Sae is good too.
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>>183966981
They can replace the SIU director scenes and it wouldn't increase the length of the game.
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>>183967080
Granted, the problem with that is you'd then not see it coming that something's afoot.
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>>183967080
The game needs at least some kind of foreshadowing, if you take out the director's scenes you're left with no suspense of a larger scope for a majority of the game.
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>>183966981
>only caring about waifu bullshit
Its not just the niijimas that need more content, all of the main cast needs more to help give them better development. As of right now a lot of it felt lacking in a lot of areas and can definitely be improved with more content
>>183967060
Yes, I think she was handled pretty awkwardly in main plot and confidant. I still love her character though
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>>183967290
foreshadowing what? That he gets unceremoniously killed while at his desk?
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>>183964954
Haru rescuing Morgana, followed by him helping her get around the Palace.

Ohya finally finding her friend.

Anything with Ryuji and his mom.
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>>183967335
>more content
Explain how you'd add this content while not taking anything away from the storyline, and still giving yourself time to take care of all your social links/pasttimes.
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fill in the blanks

If I had a dollar for every ____ I'd _____
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>>183967420
>bitching about getting more content
Wow
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>>183967558
Makotofag lurking /pg/
Have one dollar
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>>183967335
Yep, also let me fucking take Goro out for lunch or do something nice for him.

>>183967349
He has many conversations with Shido before dropping dead that allude to their current plans.

>>183967403
All of these three are absolutely great ideas.
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>>183967558
Stupid post in /pg/
101 dollars
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>>183967570
>wanting to insert more content into an already bloated game and not have Atlus focus on new titles/spinoffs
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>>183967558
retarded bullshit post made here
be a fucking billionaire
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P5, but all the palace owners and PY swap places
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>>183967290
The SIU Director scenes are shit and worthless padding. He doesn't tell you anything that the PT don't figure out a few scenes later. Foreshadowing is supposed to make a coming huge event or twist seem natural instead of artificial and contrived. The Director's scenes have the opposite effect. Instead of allowing the player to figure out the meaning and intention behind the conspiracy's actions, the player is informed in advance, and then the scenes where the PT struggle to catch up makes them look stupid. Foreshadowing requires subtlety to be effective, the Director scenes are awkward and obvious.
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>>183967420
Lots of rewriting. Replace and rewrite scenes that add nothing to the plot and can be redone with the main character (like the anon from earlier talking about the SIU director). More optional hangouts that allow us to interact with the characters to develop them further (like the ryuji's birthday hangout). There's probably more ways, but I'm falling asleep rn so I can't come up with them rn.
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>>183967706
>bloated
>people complaining they want more character development because it wasn't enough
Yeah.
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>>183967816
The only people who want more "character development" are waifufags who think their waifu needed more screentime. That's it. Those types are not to be pandered to because that's a dangerously slippy slope.
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>>183968023
Nice strawman
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>>183968051
>reality is a strawman
Go back to Logic class dingus
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>>183968023
you sound like you don't even like persona 5.
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Which waifu would be the most likely to commit incest with her son?
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>>183968023
Yeah I was talking about the Niijima's at first but I also want the rest of the cast to get more development as well. For the most part a lot of them just feel underdeveloped, I don't see whats wrong with wanting to fix that.
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>>183968247
Don't reply to shitposters
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I have a question regarding the PTs and the lore of their Personas with evolutions counted in, how definite would you say the consensus on the lore and origin of their Personas is (For example we can definitely identify who wrote the Arsene Lupin stories) in the real world?
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>>183968242
Kokoro
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>>183968242
Futaba, she'd see one of those jap incest game shows and think it was fun.
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>>183965124
Same
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>>183968348
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.
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>>183968242
Makoto, mostly thanks to many years of Sae incest
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For ongoing struggles and fending them off
For Justice
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>>183968668
>thanks to many years of Sae incest
I wish
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>2 threads again

Come on tards
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Claiming this seductive, stupendous, sultry stunner.
Best model.
Most compassionate.
I'm so proud of Ann. I love her.
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>>183968023
No it's fucking not.

We don't dates and romance shit. We have plenty of that already.

What we want are events with your confidants that actually have interesting character development and interaction. I don't want to go on more dates with Haru. I want to go on an adventure where Haru reacts to something, and she talks about it, and we gain more insight into her character as a result of that.

You get no meaningful or interesting character insights during the P5 events. Hawaii comes the closest with Ryuji and Ann talking about romance, but it doesn't go anywhere. You don't learn anything new about either of them. You don't learn anything new about the girl that gets interviewed at the school festival.

Compare to P4's events. When Chie gets interviewed for the beauty pageant, we see her gets stage fright and starts trying to act feminine, even lying about her interests. That's a side of Chie we don't normally see. And we learn how Teddie can be a smooth-talking bastard when he wants to be. Even stuff like the costumes the boys wear reflect the personalities of the girls who dressed them. And the tapes in P3 are all amazing, you see the most unexpected shit sometimes, but they still somehow all fit the characters perfectly.

It's not waifus in sexy situations that matters, it's the waifus' reactions. It's about learning new things about your waifu and the other members of your team.
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>>183968739
Makoto please leave
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>>183968867
No
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>>183968242
someone post redneck Chihaya
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Which PT girl is the bustiest in either area?
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>>183969012
You, you fat slut
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I'm actually more interested in the Attic meetup with the VA's than the concert honestly
Too bad it won't be streamed
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>>183969012
Ann is the bustiest.
...You know girls only have one bust, right?
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>>183968586
Well, in reading on the lore on Robin Hood I noticed that many versions of him exist and there's ongoing debate about whether he's purely fictional or a real Robin Hood really exists and to my knowledge currently this doesn't apply to most of the PT because there's a definite source for the origins of their Personas (For example: Ann and Carmen).

So that's my question, how many of the PT's Personas have a consistent lore and how many don't?
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>>183969012
Futaba is fat on her hips and belly
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>>183969092
Reminder Makoto's VA ships MakoRyuji!
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>>183969103
Maybe he meant their 3 sizes
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>>183968940
>Chihaya "The Walking Holocaust" Mifune
>Chihaya "Nigger Grave Digger" Mifune
>Chihaya "Six Million More" Mifune
>Chihaya "Pull the Trigger on Every Nigger" Mifune
>Chihaya "Kike Killing Kommando" Mifune
>Chihaya "The Beast that will destroy the Middle East" Mifune
>Chihaya "Holocauster Tycoon" Mifune
>Chihaya "Aryan Vs. Predator" Mifune
>Chihaya "Nuke the Spooks" Mifune
>Chihaya "Frag the Fags" Mifune
>Chihaya "The real final solution" Mifune
>Chihaya "Going Rambo on Sambo" Mifune
>Chihaya "Three Reichs and You're Out" Mifune
>Chihaya "Securing a future for white children" Mifune
>Chihaya "Gas The Kikes, Even The Tykes" Mifune
>Chihaya "Kike on a Spike" Mifune
>Chihaya "If it's not white, it's not right" Mifune
>Chihaya "14/88 BLAZE IT" Mifune
>Chihaya "Causing hysteria in every black area" Mifune
>Chihaya "Threw a Rock at a POC" Mifune
>Chihaya "Sending every black to Iraq" Mifune
>Chihaya "Peeing on every Korean" Mifune
>Chihaya "Killing spics with bricks" Mifune
>Chihaya "Goin' Mental on the Oriental" Mifune
>Chihaya "Unloading my Nine at the Welfare Line" Mifune
>Chihaya "Putting a .22 in every Jew" Mifune
>Chihaya "Making a Kite out of a Kike" Mifune
>Chihaya "Fuck the Korean, be with this European" Mifune
>Chihaya "Make every Spic into a toothpick" Mifune
>Chihaya "The Fourth Reich" Mifune
>Chihaya "Breaking the jaw of every nigger in Crenshaw" Mifune
>Chihaya "Everything is going to be all white" Mifune
>Chihaya "Wetting every little Aryan teen girls panties" Mifune
>Chihaya "Unload a Mag in Every Fag" Mifune
>Chihaya "Running over illegals in El Caminos" Mifune
>Chihaya "Makes niggers go into shivers" Mifune
>Chihaya "The Bigger the Nigger the More he Pulls the Trigger" Mifune
>Chihaya "Ran over a kike with my bike" Mifune
>Chihaya "Happy Concentration Camper" Mifune
>Chihaya "Itching for a lynching" Mifune
>Chihaya "Running down cucks with monster trucks" Mifune
>Chihaya "Not white, shoot on sight" Mifune
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>>183969184
If that's the case:
Ann has the largest breasts
Haru has the smallest waist
Makoto has the biggest hips
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>>183969170
But I don't care about the English VA's
I want my Satou Rina
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>>183968829
Agreed with this, what we need for the cast in general are scenes that expand on their character.
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>Morgana spends the entire fucking game giving Ryuji shit
>Skull you're pathetic
>Ryuji you're retarded
>Skull you're pathetic
>Ryuji you're retarded
>Skull you're pathetic
>Ryuji you're retarded
>Skull you're pathetic
>Ryuji you're retarded
>Skull you're pathetic
>Ryuji you're retarded
>Ryuji throws a little bit of shade back
>Mona you're useless
>wWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH I QUIT

Fuck this retard cat
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>>183969428
>Hey Morgana, what's wrong? Want to talk about it?
>NO! WAH, I HATE ALL OF YOU!
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>>183969514
It always bothered me that Joker is such a great leader and understanding guy but you can do jack all for Goro and apparently can't force Morgana to spill about his issues before it gets to the tantrum part even though he's with you like all the time. Like, come on!
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>>183969428
Should've let that punk ass bitch to die
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Do you think black people sympathize with Goro?
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>>183969747
But Goro's dad actually came back
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>/pg/ suddenly hates morgana

Wtf
>>
Show of hands, do you unironically ship Yusuke and Futaba?
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>>183970031
Yeah
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>>183970031
Not really. I don't think they would make a good couple as they currently are. But I'm not opposed to the ship, it could definitely happen.
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>>183970031
That's a solid sure.
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>>183970031
Yes
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>>183969092
>Too bad it won't be streamed
Oh it will be streamed, but you'll have to buy a ticket
Oh well
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>>183970031
I don't ship anyone really. Maybe RyujixAnn, but I've never actually posted anything about them
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I love Haru!
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>>183970031
Yes
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>>183969989
/pg/ always disliked him.

Honestly I really liked him a lot when I first played the game, and I still do, but man going through that whole arc where he leaves on NG+ is fucking maddening. It wastes so much time for absolutely no reason.
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>>183969142
To be fair the story of Robin Hood is almost 1000 years old. Second oldest would be Johanna then Goemon, but Robin Hood still beats them by the hundreds.
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Should I comission smut of Maya
Y/n
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>>183970031
Kind of? I'm mostly interested in how their dates would play out.
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LEAVE KANDORI TO ME
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>>183970773
A lot of misunderstanding on both parts.
But that's what makes it cute.
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>>183970820
YOU DISGUST ME THE MOST MARK.
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If the P5 girls had to pick another girl for a threesome, who would they pick and why?
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>>183970549
I think my major problem is with the execution as you know something's up with Morgana well before he leaves but you can't do anything, while Teddie leaves at a point where you literally can't do anything and you can't have anticipated Nanako's death. That's what makes it incredibly stupid to me.

>>183970620
True, also I believe Loki has established lore but until today the exact meaning of his name is still being debated.
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>Yusuke and Futaba in 25 years
>>
Who is the best girl to help rehabilitate Joker?
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>PT going to do a heist in Sumaru City
>yfw Katsuya shows up to stop them

Please Atlus.
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Why are there two /pg/ threads again?
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>>183968708
Dude how the fuck are you still alive

Its been 5 years since i saw one of these threads

Holy shit man
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>>183971380
shitposting
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>>183971268
Loli wardens
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>>183971395
I'd like to be him one day
5 years latter and still Makoto posting
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>>183971380
Just some retard trying to split the general.
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>>183971457
The dudes mentally insane but sure
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>>183971380
Just some hero trying to filter out the scum
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>>183971457
That's not a compliment
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>>183971457
You're just going to ditch Makoto when P6 comes out.
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Today went swimmingly, and I hope all your days did too, as well as your tomorrows.
Night Personababs.
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>>183971692
Tell me man
What have you been up to

Has the senpai finally accepted your relationship?
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>>183971465
What do you think of Maki (Sonomura)?
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>>183971692
I had best girls over the years but I think Makoto is the one for me
I spend 2-3 hours a day looking for new fanarts of Makoto, never in my life have I done this to any of the "waifu's" that I had.
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>>183971823
Family
Not senp
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>its a makotofag episode
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>>183969272
>Worked out places, worn out faces...
Makoto is suffering
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Do I play Persona 5 with English voices or with Japanese voices?
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>>183971993
dumb frogposter
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>>183972037
spanish voices
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>>183971457
Don't aspire to be me. Aspire to be the best version of yourself. That's what Chihiro would want for me, so it's what I should want for you.
>>
> The phantom thieves never really made anybody repentant. Their actions in the palaces - instilling fear in the villains they were beating up and stealing treasures from - was something closer to brain washing than repentence. The outcome is the destruction of their ego. The powerful, individualistic, nietzschean personalities the villains had were replaced by personalities of cowed sheep, weak and seeking someone to lead them.

> By reforming "the evil adults" completely and totally into meek, law abiding members of society, they played directly into the hand of the God of Control. When you meet the palace owners in Mementos Depths, they're not themselves anymore. Any personality they had was wiped out by the PT. Futaba and Sae escaped simply because their treasures weren't stolen.

I'm not up to this part of the game, is it true?
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>>183972037
Spanish
>>
>another day spent on /pg/
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>>183972037
Gee anon, would you like to eat a pizza made in italy or in the USA?
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>>183971823
Nani
>>183971830
I don't know much about her besides her appearance in P2 since I've never played P1 and I probably never will.
>>183971847
Huh. Well maybe it's just a phase now that you're finally an adult.
>>183969272
>same VA as Misaka
Can't even hear it desu.
>>183972037
Japanese all the way. They sound more natural and have an all star cast. If you prefer to be able to understand their speech though and are familiar with english VAs and not Japanese Vas then go English. Try both.
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>>183971993
uneducated toad publisher
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>>183972093
Yes
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>>183972093
play it and find out
>>
Are you guys excited for Persona 4 Arena v3 Featuring Persona 5?
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>>183972152
>Can't even hear it desu.
I know right? she's the best
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>>>183972247
No
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Why do so many people like Makoto?
She's not that hot or cute and her personality is mocked for being robotic
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>>183972152
>Well maybe it's just a phase now that you're finally an adult.
Are you trying to tell me something?
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>>183972272
muh canon romance
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>>183972272
She's the "smart one", normies always love the smart one.
Futabas smart too so she's nearly equally as popular.
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>>183972152
>same VA as Misaka
She's also the voice of Velvet from Tales game
I did even noticed it.
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>>183972272
I honestly have no clue and prefer Futaba as my pleb taste waifu.
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>>183970031

Yusuke and Futaba? Hmmmm... here's how I could see that playing out...

Not a couple, but Futaba will enroll in Kosei and they'll share antics as an under- and upper-class duo. The two of them will hang out with Ryuji and Ann after school constantly. Makoto and Haru will be around for the holidays when they can get away from college and running a fast food empire. Joker will also visit on the holidays, of course!

How's that? ;)
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>>183972037
Japanese is superior but the generic battle dialogue, street passerby comments and several important news broadcasts in cutscenes are not subtitled, forcing you to look the scenes up if you want to understand a few of these scenes.
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>>183972272
I think shes hot and cute. And I don't care what robot memes
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>>183972350
Oh god I remember the shitstorm when that scene first showed up
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>>183972492
That is cute and I could really see that!
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Why is she dressed like a prostitute?
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>>183972272
Ann is reserved for Ryuuji

Futaba probably smells like rank pussy

Haru is balding

So the choice is clear.
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>>183972365
I don't get Futaba either she actually looks like she's twelve
I know it's a lot weebs into that pedo shit but even the normies have a thing for her
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Rise...
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>>183972661
I disagree.
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>>183972697
has a tasty pussy.
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>>183972272
I speak for myself, because I personally know some makotofags who literally waifud her because they want to be dominated by her or being stepped on by her, I hate these faggots who just waifu someone ironically and then forget about her the next game they play.
When I played Persona I had 0 knowlege of the girls, of course besides Ann but she's not my type so I didn't plan on romancing her, then Makoto appeared and I started to gradually love her until she became my waifu. Not because she's canon and not because she's popular.
>>
>>183972773
Meme reply from a futabafag. Typical
>>
Let's talk about Goro
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>>183972697
and 死ね
>>
Come to think of it, even if Goro got redeemed he'd most likely not be with the PT and go join the SO because in Mementos he expresses a wish to study Shadows more, he's happy to learn about the Metaverse in general and we know that he travels around a lot.
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>>183972492
>Yusuke being unable to escape from the ginger gremlin even at his own school
I'm completely sold.
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>>183972868
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>>183972604
Yeah you like that don't you, you little slut.
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>>183972913
seriously get yourself a twitter account and stop posting here
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>>183972924
All yusuke has to do is sneak up on her unleash a waveload of piss on her face at school. Futqba would never show up again and probably go back to being a neet.
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>>183972913
Stay here, anon. Your posts are pretty good.
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>>183972861
don't associate me with them fuck you
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>>183972913
Kill yourself, anon. You are a waste of space.
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Anybody know if Japanese review media actually touched on reasonable things to criticize P5 for? Besides Goro, I think it would've been a nearly perfect RPG if the pace was better and it didn't have so much redundant dialogue. I really hope Atlus addresses this stuff in the next Persona and Hashino's fantasy game.
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>>183972913
Keep yourself alive, anon. You are important to us.
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>>183973007
Yusuke would never do something so degrading on purpose. He would probably humiliate Futaba completely by accident, though.
>>
So what the fuck happens to Morgana now that he's a cat? He has human intelligence and basically everything about his personality is human but he's a cat. What is going to happen when he wants to get a girlfriend? He will have to settle for fucking other cats. And if he isn't down with that, he will be a permavirgin. Really sad ending. I played through the game and thought I got the bad ending because of this thought.
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>>183973230
>>183973124
Upvote xSddd
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>>183973201
What do you mean by redundant dialogue?
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>>183973242
What do you mean probably, he deals criticals to her on a daily chat basis.
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>>183973250
Please look forward to the spin off!
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>>183972843
Fair enough
I'm just surprised at how popular she is. Honestly I didn't think anything of her until I saw her in her PT uniform, but even then I wasn't crazy for her. But everywhere I go she's the most popular waifu in the game
I'm surprised there's not more love for Takemi
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>>183973318
Joker for Sae!
Human Morgana for Makoto!
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I'll draw your waifu for a point in proficiency
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>>183972492
Then they fall in love and start dating and eventually get married and have kids.
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>>183973408
draw kokoro pls
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>>183972386
>I did even noticed it.
I didn't even notice it
late but fix'd
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>>183973271
Not him, but what he means is that you get a lot of dialogue regarding the mission and the chat is pretty much used more for repeating the same thing than fun conversation stuff.

I think the issue arises from how the PTs are more 'professional' in doing their stuff than SEES and the IT who come off as winging it, so the writers tried to portray that kind of thing like how an actual coordinated group would work and it fell kind of flat.
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>>183973271
Not that anon but just look at their pic or the millions of times every member of the PT repeat things you already know
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>>183973408
Draw Hifumi using her Ultimate Excalibur Attack please
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>>183973445
maybe when crimson comes out
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I can't wait for Persona 5 Akechi Goro of the Resurrection!
>that Groostorm at the end of the last thread
Just a taste of whats to come in August.
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>>183973408
draw ebihara
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Post characters with an infectious smiles and a positive attitude
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>>183973271
I meant to say text in general, but things like seeing people say the same stuff day after day. It's a pain when you complete the palace early. These:
>>183973496
>>183973541

I also think there are way too many public gossip/opinion screens after Kamoshida, they're too frequent.
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>>183973373
Oh, please. We all know which of the girls Morgana is closest to, and it's not Ann, no matter how much he wants it to be the case.
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>>183973271
>guys I'm worried
>the deadline is getting closer
>I'm sure it will be fine
>but what if it didn't work
>we don't have much time left
>I'm really worried
Repeat every other day until the deadline actually hits
Plus the way they explain every single puzzle
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>>183973265
You okay, anon?
>>
>>183973683
The first thing human Morgana would do is slap that bitchs forehead and laugh in her face
>>
Could Morgana beat Koromaru in a fight
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>>183973653
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>>183973675
I like those public gossip and opinion screens since they show how the masses changes their opinion and more darkly shows that they didn't actually start thinking for themselves so much as treating this kind of like entertainment.

>>183973772
Of course, this is a rude shock when it comes to Okumura's Palace and the PTs think everything went smoothly.
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>>183973821
heck naw
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>>183973547
that'll be 5 points in proficiency, I went to chihaya first
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i am futaba
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I WANT TO
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I love Haru!
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>>183974331
die
>>
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>>183974219
I still wish Hifumi was the strategist in our team purely because it'd be chuuni as fuck and she adds even more hilarity.
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>>183974198
I like them too, my issue is with the frequency. You can still get across that idea without putting so many of them so close together.
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>>183974305
same
>>
i am groo
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>>183974374
>Larry
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>>183974381
She's not a very good strategist considering she didn't use the position her mother put her to her advantage after getting her mother to stop with the idoling and rigging and the fact she actually sucks at shogi...
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>>183974305
me too
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>>183974386
Ah, okay. Agreed with you then because sometimes there's even two of those screens next to each other.
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>>183974441
same
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how would the phantom thieves react to
uhh fuck let's see... hmm...
how would they react to tekken 7?? yeah let's do that
>>
>>183974497
Didn't her reputation crash after that? I remember her telling you she already wasn't doing well even before the upcoming rigged match, but anyway Hifumi is good at shogi, she just looks much better than she actually is until being able to play on her own terms and IIRC another anon mentioned that she starts winning matches again around winter.
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>>183974657
they would have fun mashing with each other
then go online and get wrecked
and stop playing
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How would the Phantom Thieves react to being in a "Phantom Thieves React to 9/11" Youtube video?
>>
How would the Phantom Thieves react to the Holocaust?
>>
How would the Phantom Thieves react to having holes drilled in their skulls?
>>
>>183973683
Daaaaamn she got some nice big bang burgers
>>
How would the Phantom Thieves react to this thread?
>>
How would the Phantom Thi
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I am Phantom Thieves please stop talking about me its embarassing
>>
>>183975456
How would you react to Goro being alive?
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>>183975469
by not having shit taste lmao
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>>183974219
Thanks anon
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>>183975516
p4>p3
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>>183974219
If you're still here anon, can you draw Joker looking at /pg/ in disgust?
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>untie me and my friends NOW and I'll forget about THIS.
>My sister is a prosecutor you know.
>Stop messing around! Wait. What is that? a drill?!
>No, I'm sorry please let me go, please plea-AHHHHH!!!
>>
(You)
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>>183975754
Comfy
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Say hello to the first ever student council whore. Makoto is here to attend to everyones needs. Even the teachers!
Please form a line.
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Let's talk about Persona 3
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>>183976145
I liked it
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>>183976145
I loved it, I still get feels once and while from it.
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>>183976145
I tried replaying it recently. I found it incredibly boring and I stopped playing. But I distinctly remember loving the game the first time i played it

Has P5 ruined all other rpgs for me now?
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Futaba is shit
>>
Futaba a best
>>
Futaba is for imouto
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>>183976262
I wanna cuddle dat dere Kirbeh
>>
Futaba is for spitroasts with my boy Yusuke.
>>
>>183976526
Can she handle that?
>>
>>183976262
It's because for as good the story is, the gameplay is pretty plain nowadays.

Tartarus being the same shit doesn't help.
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>>183976695
She's a big girl
>>
Dead
>>
>pq2.jp redirects to Atlus now
There's our announcement folks
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>>183977398
Ah, the thread was so lively just now. Maybe I'll go finish P5 today or tomorrow because I want to see that thing with Yaldy.
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>>183977458
>tfw don't have a DS and never plan to get one
They better at least release it on Vita this time
>>
>>183977458
Huh, wonder what will happen in this one?
>>
>>183976262
Replaying it right now after playing P5 and I'm still really enjoying it.
The feel of the gameplay isn't as good but the atmosphere, characters, and story are all better imo
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>>183977458
It's coming to Switch.
>>
>>183977458
What about the other domains
>>
>>183977674
I think another thing that helps is that since it's the first game that uses the formula we're used to now there's a general sense of mystery as to what will happen.
>>
>The upcoming P5 Maniacus book will contain a never before told "secret story" alongside the story analysis. Yes, I will translate it.

Ready for shitposting?
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>>183977708
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>>183977809
Source?
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>>183977708
I guess I'll have to watch a playthrough for the story again
>>
>>183977809
>Yes, I will translate it.
Who said that? if it's an anon from /pg/ he can go fuck himself
>>
>>183977813
Stay mad pony
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>>183977708
You mean 3DS.
>>
>>183977902
>>183977907
All dumped info from Atlus twitter. Persona Central translator is doing the story.

Wonder what it's about?
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>>183977963
Nah Switch.
>>
What would they have to add to make you buy a switch for persona 5? Everyone has a price
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>>183978006
>Persona Central translator is doing the story.
Good then
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>>183978016
lol
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>>183978028
More scenes with my waifu. More slice of life stuff in general
>>
>>183978047
Stay mad
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>>183978167
lol
>>
>>183978205
P5AG
>>
>>183977708
>>183977963
It's going to be a Vita exclusive
;_;
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>>183978028
a waifu headpat minigame
>>
>p5ag.jpg is redirecting to atlus
so this and pq2?
>>
>>183978006
Hopefully you know who.
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>>183978350
>p5ag.jpg
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>>183978358
It's not going to be about Goro
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>>183978262
I...I'm sorry anon. I know how much this meant to you. I promise I'll romance your waifu when i play it.

>>183978350
Holy shit.
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>>183978350
It's time
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>>183978426
>I promise I'll romance your waifu when i play it.
Fuck you anon I'm not a cuck
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>>183978350
>Maki about to get BTFO
Wew.
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>>183978485
But anon all you have to do is self insert yourself into me. So then it feels like you romancing your waifu
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So, make your best guess. What will PQ2 be about and which casts will make it in aside from the obvious P5 cast?
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>>183978592
>self inserting as an anon who self inserts as joker
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Persona 5 is great and all but it still feels like I'm just visiting tokyo for a bit and hanging out with the phantom thieves after spending ten years in inaba with the investigation team and growing up with SEES.

How do you get rid of this feeling.
>>
>get to witness the mass suicide of anti Groofags when P5AG turns out to be his Episode Aigis
WEW
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>>183978686
It will be lovely. The tears and buttrage will be amazing.
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>>183978686
Not even a Groofag but I almost look forward to the madness
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>>183978638
Who cares we got P5AG coming
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I wonder how many western piggus will never play Persona again if Groo spinoff is real
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>>183978686
I can't wait.
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I said it once and I'll say it again
If Atlus redeemed Goro, P5 will be the last Persona game I'll touch.
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>>183978686
>tfw I'm only interested in P5AG simply for the meltdowns
/pg/ will collapse
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What else could P5AG even stand for?

Alternative Game?
Arena Golden?
It's clearly Akechi Goro DLC scenario
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>>183978638
1, 2, 5
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>>183978939
Akechi Gaiden
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>>183978835
They'll still play it but there will be enough salt to feed Africa once P5AG gets unveiled along with PQ2.

>>183978881
>It's already started
These tears.
>>
> Goro's Personas are pretty much chaotic types
> Has Call of Chaos
> Caused an apocalypse when leaks came up
> Causes chaos in-game
> Everyone's going to go fits again the next time he shows up
Absolute madman.
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>>183978939
Anyone with a brain would have figured this out months ago.

>>183979004
My dick
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>>183978686
I'm genuinely curious on what this could turn out to be
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>high chance of PQ2/P5AG being announced
>P5 maniax with staff interviews
>new story scenario
>updated character poll
>potential P5 anime announcement at P5A event
/pg/ is not ready for this, holy shit
>>
You see, I wouldn't mind a Goro-focused spinoff, until the Gorofag kept spamming his conjectures as canon.
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>>183979141
Someone post Akihiko, you know which one.
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>>183979141
I don't think we'll survive.

>>183979161
As long as Akechi's spinoff isn't full on Shadow the Hedgehog I'm fine
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>>183979182
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Which Persona girl is the best at getting Joker off orally?
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>>183979118
Probably how Goro survived. Could also dwell into how Goro first got his powers and maybe we'll see Futaba's mom.
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>>183979249
It'd also be nice if his spinoff isn't entirely about him and had stuff with the PT because some of them sorely needed more screentime to shine, although that might be a pipe dream.
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>>183979302
Futaba
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>>183979182
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>>183979302
Ann without a doubt. Shes the kind of girl to read about how to please her man online
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who has the fucking hq ver of this
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She's yours, /pg/
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>>183979332
Nah fuck the PT. Let this be all about Akechi. He got shafted in the end.
>>
Are you guys ready for Persona 5 Plus! Aids Gang
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>>183979428
Anon I need a source
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>>183979320
I have a burning need to know whether Wakaba was the unicorn nice lady just researching stuff or she was also shady as hell and just happened to really care for her daughter. Also, it occurs to me that if Sojiro is rich as fuck after being retired perhaps Wakaba's work was how she was able to support Futaba as a single mom.

>>183979436
That works too, and like I said if this has anything to do with his past meeting the PT makes no sense.
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>>183979425
I haven't seen this in months, makes me nostalgic to the simpler times
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>>183979409
her mouth is too big
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>>183979425
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>>183979549
Wakaba will probably end up having connections to Mitsuru's Shadow Operatives group. Just watch. It will be a way to tie in the previous casts.
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>>183979568
Why is he so sloppy? Gee Akechi, can you do anything right?
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>>183979549
Meh knowing the story Wakaba would probably be the nice lady who got murdered just so her research can lay in their hands
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>>183979568
why would you have that saved?
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>>183979660
What also makes her curious to me is that from what we hear it appears Goro just had to kill her, but surely she had to be working with someone else. Maybe she was planning on making those papers public and so she had to die and have her work be stolen?

>>183979696
It depends on how we look at Futaba really, since we never figured out why it was said her Persona is kind of important and she freaking alters cognition.
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>>183979729
Why wouldn't I?
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>>183979660
Women are never depicted as truly villainous in Persona - she'll be a victim if its expanded upon. We already know Shido has been shady even when he worked with Sojiro.
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>Joker summons Satanael
>get hype for an awesome 1v1 with Yaldabaoth
>nope
>just fuck da police
Wasted potential
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>>183979794
How would being connected to Mitsuru's group make Wakaba villainous?
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>>183979869
Wrong reply, was for >>183979549
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>>183979794
> We already know Shido has been shady even when he worked with Sojiro.
I'd love to see what was up with that, since Shido was apparently pretty powerful even two years back.
>>
As long as you're up this late, let's jam for a bit /pg/

what was your high school experience like?

pic hopefully not related
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>>183979869
Everything connected to the Kirijo Group before Mitsuru takes over ends up being shady, if P3 and the Arena games are any indication. That being said, it wouldn't make sense for Wakaba to be evil, so watch Atlus try it anyway.

>>183979831
Yaldy is a disappointing battle. Bloody Holy Grail was more interesting.
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>>183979568
Anything like this for the others or does only Goro deserve to be a cumguzzler?
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>>183980049
Dropped out ASAP. Only had a 25% attendance rate due to playing too much in the way of video games.
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>>183980049
pretty boring, most interesting thing that happened was i made friends with one of the top students in my year (not that i knew that), who ended up pushing me from a C average student to an A average.

Other then that 3 guys got caught stealing ram from school computers and selling them on ebay right before graduation.
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>>183980101
I have this.
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>>183980049
Uneventful but filled with precious memories with the few nakama I had! Wish I could redo my youth.
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>>183980075
Ok but this is s Kirijo Group thars being ran by Mitsuru not the old group her dad ran. It's not impossible for Wakaba be connected to her group somehow and it wouldn't make her evil.
>>
Yaldy is a surprisingly genre-savvy final boss, isn't he? You spent basically the entire game doing exactly what he wanted and were never the wiser for it because you thought it was a good thing.
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>>183980241
He wasn't a bad guy, he had good intentions.
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>>183980349
t. Yaldy
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>>183980349
He was every AI final boss
>humanity is it's own greatest threat, therefor the only logical solution is to end humanity
>>
Any bets on how long localization will take?
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>>183980349
Somewhat true. He was humanity's desire for order that became twisted once humanity was willing to give up its own freedom for said order
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>>183980547
2 years
>>
EVERY DAYS GREAT AT YOUR JUNES
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>>183980547
Atlus learned their lesson with P5.
Simultaneous release
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>>183980586
Yeah, as social creatures we need some order in our lives for society to work and just like all the other distorted desires of the game Yaldy is kind of the end result of people losing sight of that and letting the need for order trump everything else.
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>>183980547
I'm pirating PQ2 so who cares
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>>183980707
>Atlus learned their lesson with P5.
what makes you say that?
>>
Is Persona 5 still worth playing even if I already got spoiled that Makoto is the traitor by some jerk on Reddit?
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>>183980824
I was kidding, I don't really expect that.
But P5 sold really well in the west.
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>>183980897
Yes but not if you get spoiled that Morgana is the final boss.
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>1.8 million
>sold well

LUL
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>>183980897
Yes. The reveal as to why Makto betrays you because of overwhelming guilt over murdering someone is still good.
>>
Was it ever explained the meaning of Morgana's nightmare? They just kind of dropped it after his real origins were revealed.
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>>183981006
I think they're just regular nightmares, spawned from the fear he's just an 'aware' Shadow like Teddie.
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>>183980897
Yes, Makoto boss fight is the best boss fight in his game
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> Less than a week to August 2nd, and only about 3 days to the cafe Leblanc thing
Hyped?
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>>183981210
Nah not really. I don't really care for the spin-offs.
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>>183981259
I want to see more of the PT, but I'm aware of the fact that the constant P4 spinoffs made me turn away from the IT.
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What if the next spinoff is a Ace Attorney type game where you play as Sae and try to root out the remnants of Shido's corrupt organization?
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>>183981210
>less than a week until the /pg/ shitstorm
Yes, very.
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>>183981363
>yfw mitsuru and nanjo cameos
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>>183981363
I'd buy it in a heartbeat
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>>183981210
>3 days to the cafe Leblanc thing
I am hyped about this more than the concert
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>>183981453
>Coffee on top of a book
What the fuck
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>>183981516
I do this sometimes
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>>183981516
It's on a saucer at least, it's probably ok
>>
>>183981334
True, and with P5 at least I want to see more of what the government was doing since there's only so much the PT can do.
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>>183981363
I don't like Ace Attorney and I'm indifferent towards Sae, so it's a hard pass for me
>>
>move from the city to the boonies
>pretty much have no friends
>girls pick on you and kick you in the nads
>the company your dad is the manager for is HATED by the ENTIRE TOWN
>your bike sucks
>guy moves from Tokyo to inaba
>was randomly selected to become chad by a gas station attendant
>instantly became friends with the two girls who don't care about you
>>
>>183981720
forgot to mention the one person who probably likes Junes the most starts to like this new guy more within a short time
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>>183981816
There's always Hanako
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>>183981816
and he still doesnt bitch as much as Junpei.
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Lisa Silverman fucks old men for money!
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Makoto is the type of girl who would tell the teacher that they haven't assigned any homework yet right before class ends.
Fuck Makoto
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Who would win in a fight, me or Goro Akechi?
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>>183982160
>Fuck Makoto
I wish man
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>>183982228
t.Ryuji
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>>183982219
groo
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>>183982219
me
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>>183982263
>ryuiji
>fucking any girl
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>>183982289
Please explain why
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>>183982391
Anon doesn't have Repel Phys.
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>>183982194
>>
Is Little Busters worth playing?
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Hellokoto
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>>183982589
Never >played it but I hear a lot of people praise it and cried because of it
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>>183982634
Hello waifu
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>>183978668
I feel the same way anon
Dunno what to do about it other than play the other games and wait for P6
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>>183982634
Goodbyekechi
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>>183982634
Hi
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>>183982634
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>>183982790
kys
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>>183982851
No
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>>183982887
No, I'm serious. End your life.
>>
What is makotos favorite 50 cent song?
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>>183982915
No, you aren't.
>>
>>183982916
I just wanna
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What is Ann's favorite snack?
>>
>>183982916
Many Men
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>>183983042
Black man's cock. She always craves something sweet after.
>>
>>183983042
>>183983042
Joker's cum
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>>183983042
Crepes. Did you play the game?
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>>183983042
Chocolate/Vanilla swirl ice cream
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>>183983109
Crepes are pretty wholesome deserts, I wouldn't have them as snacks!
>>
What is Futaba's favorite fetish?
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>>183983291
Tentacle
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>>183983291
guro, vore.
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>>183983191
Ann would
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>>183983291
incest
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El Presidente
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>>183983749
Makoto is for mexicans!
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What was his name again?
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>>183983917
Take that back, Makoto is pure.
>>
Ann is for blacks
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>>183984328
No, Makoto is
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>>183984464
That's Futaba actually
>>
>>183983917
>>183984328
>>183984464
>>183984585
I think it's time for you anons to go to sleep
>>
>>183983945
Goro Akechi
>>
>>183984585
Futaba is for Yusuke or alternatively Goro.
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How does Makoto react to being touched by a Chinese?
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>>183984328
>>183984585
>>183984659
Wrong.
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>>183984741
Right
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>>183984789
Left
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Is someone restreaming the event on Twitch?
I don't mind doing it again
>>
>>183984691
She lifts up her skirt and bend over for the superior mainlander.
>>
>>183984871
Won't you get banned
>>
>>183984943
I didn't get banned last time (the 24h stream) so I don't think they'll do it now
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>>183985035
Godspeed
If you can also stream the attic meetup that's would be dope
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I've found the Persona 4 english better and P3 bearable or just as good
How's P5 english vs japanese?
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I hope you didn't enjoy this homophobic game, /pg/.

Why am I doing this to myself.
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>>183985106
>attic meetup
Is this some kind of pre-stream? If so I don't mind.
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>>183984871
Check if you can buy the ticket first. Back during Night of Phantom you needed to have a japanese credit card to buy a premium account from what I remember, they might be blocking gaijins again.
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>>183985260
No, it's the VA's meetup and talk with the fans on the 30th of July
>>
>>183983042
Ann Cream Puffs
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>>183985116
I played in Japanese my first time but found the English to be surprisingly good when watching Twitch streamers after I finished. Can't really go wrong with either I think.
>>
Why'd they even put golden on the vita?

Do they seriously expect me to hunch over on the bus and stare at the little ass screen for >100 hours? I cant afford that much bus fare, stupid Atlus
>>
>>183985526
PSTV can usually be found pretty cheap can't they?

Though I played it the first time on a actual small vita in a hotel room and it was kinda comfy.
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>>183985287
Just bought the Premium Account. I had a european card and had no problems.

>>183985294
What hour (japan time) it is? I'll try to do it too.
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Is she ticklish?
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>>183985570
I dont know if this is normal but i need my waifu games on a big tv so she's "life sized" if that makes sense.
There doesnt seem to be a way to pirate it though, oh well.
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>>183985526
Isn't it a simple matter of handhelds being more popular in Japan? But yeah, get a PSTV.
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>>183985660
You can pirate it if you have a 3.60 Vita or PSTV, not sure how easy they are to find now though.
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>>183985605
What are all the events happening on the 2nd? The op just has old links saying "more information in the future"
>>
>>183985605
>What hour (japan time) it is? I'll try to do it too.
Never mind anon, I just checked nico and they won't be streaming it. it will be on other streaming site
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You're welcome by the way /pg/
If I didn't meme that there wouldn't be any announcements because there was no stream for two weeks straight we wouldn't have been bumped to the timeline where the stream happened
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>>183985809
Yeah thanks
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>Live stream blocked for regions outside of Japan.

But why?
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>>183985896
Japan is super xenophobic you have no idea
>>
Why is Yukari such a ho
>>
>>183985946
She's a whore
>>
>>183985986
She is not a ho. She is just not a very positive person, is all. Just like all of P3 casts, even the 'bro' character, junpei.
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I love Sadayo!

>>183985742
http://personacentral.com/persona-super-live-p-sound-bomb-2017-paid-live-stream-announced-limited-persona-stalker-club-v-revival-august-2/

The concert is happening and most people are expecting either spinoffs and/or an anime announcement.

>>183985896
It could possibly be related to licensing issues.
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Did atlus SAY they were going to announce some kind of game? Or were you guys hyping me up based on a hunch?
*leans forward*
Answer me!
>>
>tfw P5U won't be announced because DBFZ and the RWBY assets in BBX are taking all the ASW resources
Who would be the villain of P5U? Futaba's biological dad?
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/p5g/ is dead
>>
Has Goro been laid before?
>>
>>183986067
Philemon
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>>183986062
They've been teasing an announcement for a long time.
Interns talking about designing costumes and UI, some DJ saying he was asked to remix a P5 song for the next game and the like
>>
>>183985896
Filthy gaijin piggu.

Probably just what >>183986035 said. Wasn't the big Persona stream from 2013 available worldwide?
>>
>>183986062
m8 just read earlier in the thread there's already activity on one of the web domains
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>>183986127
All streams used to be free and worldwide.
I guess we made Atlus mad somehow.
>>
>>183986102
he gets fucked by old men for money
>>
>>183986186
their last stream was like this too
everyone that wasn't paid got to watch the first 30 minutes for free, and that first 30 was just a splash screen
>>
>>183986186
They obviously don't want western idiots shitting up the chat when they announce P5 Akechi Goro.
>>
>>183986228
The SJ remake one? The one about PRF was free from what I remember.
>>
>>183986268
go live in japan and shit up 2chan groojoshi
>>
>>183986268
only pq2 is near confirmed right now, please don't accidentally meme anything out of existence
I don't even care if it's about goro I just want more than a PQ sequel to get announced
>>
>>183986228
>that level of jewery
I don't know what name to yell. Maybe OKUMURAAAA
>>
>>183986354
>Only pq2 is near confirmed right now
Explain
>>
I think it's disgusting how Joker never brushes his teeth.
>>
Breeding with Rise! Breeding with Ai! Breeding with Ann! Breeding with Mokoto! Breeding with Fluff Teacher! Breeding with Hifumi!
Taking responsibility! Having a big family!
>>
>>183986458
He also never bathes unless you spend the night at the bathhouse, which I never did.
>>
>>183986458
and stops taking baths on NG+
truly the most disgusting protagonist, filthy criminal
>>
>>183986514
Who the hell do you think you are? Yu?
>>
>>183986435
That's the only domain that's redirecting currently.
>>
>>183986435
web domain now directs to p-ch.jp and thus far it's the only one that does
>>
>>183986514
Reminds me of this game: https://vndb.org/v496
>>
>>183986581
Well maybe we'll get crimson and PQ2, since Crimson wouldn't need its own website anyway they would just update the old P5 one.
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It's been almost two hours since I last posted a Makoto pic.
She'd be disappointed int me
>>
>>183986568
>implying Yu would have any more than 1 kid at the most with one girl
Chad is a meme, not the reality
>>
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Where are my Pixie doujins?
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>>183986568
>implying Yu won't stay loyal to Nanako
Anon pls
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>have to play as goro and follow his contrived story
>but I get to see more of Sae
>>
>>183964756
>God Awful Tier
ftfy
>>
>>183986752
Is Sae even a virgin at her own age?
>>
>>183964756
Wheres the Ohya drunk rage pasta when you need it
>>
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>>183986830
>>
>>183986868
This makes me sad
>>
>>183986804
I like to think its been a while, ever since her dad died and she had to start raising makoto.
>>
>>183986868
Give Ohya more booze!
>>
So just PQ2 practically confirmed right?
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>>183987338
N-Not ... Canon... ;(
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>>183987028
Oh no she's been drinking too much and got a beer belly!

It's kinda cute
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>>183987447
gross
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>>183987447
Not bad, though I'm in no position to be picky
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>>183964632
Anyone have that updated image of which SMT/Persona games are good for newcomers?
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>>183987338
Delete this
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The kinkiest
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one of you had better check all the web domains every morning between now and the 2nd
it's the least you can do for all the shitposting
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>>183987610
NYX ALREADY DID
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>>183987649
What if I don't shitpost? But yeah, hype level is 99% now man.
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>>183978638
Hopefully the IT. Not even memeing I never want 4 stuff to leave. I love it too much
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>>183978638
A handful of P3/4. The whole cast may be a bit much, but some.
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>>183988096
someone is definitely getting cut yeah
my money is on P3 being severely reduced or excluded entirely
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>>183988176
That might be kind of an issue, because the PT seem like they'd relate more to the P3 cast.
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>>183988254
Not really. All the casts get along
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>>183987649
I would, but gorofags don't deserve anything for my efforts.
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>>183987963
I don't.
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>>183988361
The IT and PT are natural enemies since the PT are criminals.
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>mfw she won't appear in any spinoffs.

Why did I have to fall for a side character? ;_;
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>>183988445
IT=SEES=PT is true patrician
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>>183988482
Not really. The IT didn't give a shit about laws. They carried illegal weapons around on them. Naoto, the one people sometimes call the lawfag of the group, set up a fake bomb scare in a hospital to set up an illegal interrogation of a suspect in custody.
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I'm scared
What if they add group events to P5 and take away the one thing P4 still has
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>>183988538
At least the IT didn't kill anybody.
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I really wish the SMT thing at the end didn't exist. The SMT concept is tired as it is I don't want to see that shit in my Persona.
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>>183988486
but what if she does
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>>183988564
The PT didn't either
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>>183988497
You get it.

>>183988564
Neither did the thieves. Because Goro was never a member of the PT.

>>183988606
Every MT game ends with punching god in the face
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>we're never seeing Piercy, Tatsuya or Maya again
>which means we're never seeing best boy Michel
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>>183988482
It's not even that, we just had a game where the PT actively ignored the truth just so they could do what they thought was right and through the whole game whenever they come to a conclusion they don't really have any definitive proof of it. They're like total opposites from the IT in that regard.
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>>183988486
I'll add her in the next game, already in a relationship with you so you can go straight to the dates. Deal?
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>>183988656
But the PT didn't ignore the truth. They actively forced criminals to admit to it.

You could argue they hid their own identities and all that, but so did the IT.
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>>183988639
>>183988630
His death was still a direct result of their actions.
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>>183988649
I disagree.
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>>183988564
They massacre countless shadows, did you even play the game?
Or are you saying shadow lives dont matter?
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>>183988745
Goro killed himself.
Assuming he's actually dead.
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>>183988649
i want Ulala to step on me
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>>183988639
>>183988497
Exactly, all people have to do is reach out to the truth
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>>183988720
That's incorrect though, you can see the PT questioning their actions less and less each time and this mirrors how depressed SEES got around December and the IT nearly killing Namatame. Having Personas is no guarantee you can't fall to the same vices trapping the masses, after all.
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>>183988745
The boy planning to die after he finish his revenge no matter what.
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>>183988629
If she were as popular in Japan as she is in the west I could see some cameos. As it stands, I think she's middle of the road in popularity (and I believe Tae is the most popular cake over there). That dooms her to irrelevance.

>>183988670
I'd pay $59.99 for that.
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>>183988847
If you view it like that then the PT and the IT are not the polar opposites, which is the exact point we were arguing about.
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P3: "who's the killer? YOU? Ha! You confess! Shit it wasnt him, WAS IT YOU? Shit he was tricked, IT WAS YOU!"
P4: "who's the killer?" "eh prolly nothing, we can worry about it later!"
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Why is this allowed?
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I hope you guys aren't expecting Atlus to address the morality of anything in P5 when them not doing that is a super deliberate decision that Hashino even brought up in an interview
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>>183988950
Excellent, please enjoy Persona 5: Akechi Goro, where kawakami crossed paths with the ace defectice and found true love before she met joket
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>>183989063
Truly they were a Persona 4
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Come to think of it, Haru's Persona is Milady, she's dressed like a musketeer and has a French code name. Might it be safe to assume she's read The Three Musketeers?
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>>183989063
What would happen if Yukiko decided to prostitute herself?
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>>183989019
Whoops i mean P4 and P5
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>>183989148
>joket
would that be pronounced joke-tuh or jokay
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>>183989135
Of course not. If they were going to address the morality of the PT's actions all the villains wouldn't be so utterly cartoonishly villainous that you half expect them to tie maidens to the train tracks while twirling their mustaches.
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>>183989135
I don't need them to because my own stance is clear: I think it was right that the PTs were given a chance to escape their shitty circumstances but otherwise object to their methods being called justice as much as I object to Goro's actions.
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>>183989191
Haru can't read.
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Shadow Naoto a cute
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>PQ2.jp redirects to pch.jp
>Goro will probably be there with Robin Hood and pretend he is a good guy
>Yaldy, Caroline and Justine will also be there
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>>183989347
>thinking for yourself
m8 are you even a westerner
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>>183989254
They're shadows. That's how shadows act. Judging their real-life counterparts from their shadows' actions is just as bad as those people saying Kanji wants nothing more than to take it up the ass from random men just because his shadow said so. The shadow is based more on what the person fears they are than what they actually are deep down.

If anything, the fact that their shadows said those things is proof that they do feel remorse and are not 100% okay with what they have become. If they were then they wouldn't have any need to push those feelings onto the shadow self.
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>>183989402
More twins makes it worth it. Were going to be stuck with lavenza for the next ten years, let me have lolidom one more time
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>>183989135
They don't need to since the PT did nothing morally wrong.
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>>183989515
Infringing on the free will of another is always wrong, regardless of the justification.
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>>183989432
The hell are you going on about? Forget the shadows. In real life all those people were god damn monsters. They were murderers, rapists, mafia, and much more. Shadows only elaborated on their crimes.
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>>183989254
The morality of the PT's actions isn't actually dependent on the personality of the targets though, inherently tampering with someone's heart like that is simply wrong and this is why I can only justify such a thing as self-defense.

Also, with regards to the Shadows acting like cartoon villains: Isn't that the point? Their thoughts are distorted, they're in a place that enables that distortion so of course they're going to appear one-dimensional as a result of that.

>>183989432
With those like Kamoshida at least we have evidence that the guy is an asshole, but something Westerners might not realize is that the conviction rate of Japan is extremely high and your life can be ruined with a single rumor, so as long as you can't observe the actual owner of the Shadow it's extremely dangerous to justify reforming someone on the basis of them having a Palace.
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>>183989560
>regardless of the justification.
Except that's bullshit. It's fine if you have good justification. And they did. They stopped horrible, life ruining assholes whom the law wouldn't touch.
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They didn't address the morality of it because it's a video game and they don't give a shit
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>>183989642
>Also, with regards to the Shadows acting like cartoon villains
But I'm not talking about the shadows. I'm talking about the actual villains. Fuck, if the PT murdered Shido in cold blood you could chalk that up as a win. We're not talking about people who were mean to them or were just kind of general jerks. These people murdered a large number of people, ruined countless lives, and were in positions of power over others. At that point, no holds barred.
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>>183989646
And how many of those people didn't also believe they were perfectly justified in doing what they are doing? Just because you are able to convince yourself that your actions are justified doesn't mean jack shit. Do you think their victims also thought they had good justification to completely mindbreak them and ruin their lives?
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>>183989797
I'm going to make a nice and clear line: When the people you are targeting are literal murderers and the law won't touch them because it is too corrupt, it is entirely justified to do what you can to stop them.
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>>183989864
Pretty much this.
You only decided to target Kamoshida once he almost caused a death. You always always choose to save the life of the person in danger over the murderer
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>>183989646
Then allow me to ask this: If we agree that it's only just for the Phantom Thieves to apprehend criminals the law can't touch and someone were to threaten to report them, would it be justified for them to change his heart to prevent him from doing so as he would prevent them from arresting more criminals?

There's no justifying the act of criminals of course, but the law establishes the limit to which criminals may be searched and interrogated in pursuit of fairness. Suppose we look at a change of heart as an intrusion of private property, grave injury to the target and a forced confession made by threat to the target's life and they never truly repented, does it still sound fair?
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>>183989660
according to them they didn't address the morality so conversations like this could happen
P5 being a story told through the eyes of a bunch of teenagers was especially important this time around, especially for bits like the end of the game and watch the public send all their hope to them out of fear rather than understanding.
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>>183989864
But did they really exhaust all of their available options to the point that they could definitively claim that this was the minimum required in order to stop those people from doing what they were doing? At least Madarame and Okumura could have probably been reasoned with, but Haru chose instead to completely mindbreak her father because she was too scared to actually stand up to him and have a real conversation with him. They didn't even try.

Also most of them weren't even murderers.
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>>183989932
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>>183989932
Femc is a headpat slut
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>>183989932
I can't wait for her to be in PQ2!
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>>183990000
>and
>where you*
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>>183989973
>Then allow me to ask this: If we agree that it's only just for the Phantom Thieves to apprehend criminals the law can't touch and someone were to threaten to report them, would it be justified for them to change his heart to prevent him from doing so as he would prevent them from arresting more criminals?
Nope. That person isn't killing people. At any point do they actual consider changing the heart of the numerous people blackmailing them? The answer is yes, but only because Futaba asked them to.
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>>183990031
never ever, fags
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>>183989864
The main crux of the game is 'we followed society's rules, but society then protects the people who AREN'T following the rules, while letting them shit on us'. You'd be well within your rights to tell society and it's rules to get fucked.
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>>183990016
filthy edit
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>>183990002
It wouldn't have worked desu
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>>183990115
>>183990089
If she was in pq2 she'd definitely get narukami'd
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>>183990181
>implying she won't get joker'd
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>>183990002
>But did they really exhaust all of their available options to the point that they could definitively claim that this was the minimum required in order to stop those people from doing what they were doing?
Yes.

>Also most of them weren't even murderers.
>Kamoshida
Drove a student to attempted suicide
>Madarame
Drove a student to suicide
Watched a woman drop dead from a seizure, willful neglect leading to death
>Kamoshida
Technically "just" sexual slavery, but also in the mafia, so...
>Futaba
Not a murderer, true, but also unusual circumstances
>Okumura
Used Shido's services which may have included the deaths of some. But at best ruined countless lives and had factory and worker conditions which may lead to deaths
>Sae
Another exception but also one where they didn't even change the heart
>Shido
Had tons and tons of people killed long before he even got his hands on Goro.
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>>183990203
I love Ann!
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>>183989864
>>183990002
>>183990083
The PT killing Goro is should have been justified because he's a murderer. But fucking hell, Atlus decide to play pity on him, which makes me mad as fuck.
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>>183990208
Can't dethrone the king, baby
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>>183990257
Was Madarame really a danger to anyone anymore though? Yusuke could have easily just left, it would have made his art career harder sure but he was in no actual danger. The guy was just an old man making paintings.
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>>183990270
Technically Goro didn't actually kill anyone though
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>>183990002
If they're distorted enough to have a Palace, then regular reasoning would not work. Otherwise Makoto would've just asked Sae to stop being a bitch, and Sojiro would've just asked Futaba to stop being depressed.
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>>183990329
Except he basically let Yusuke's mother die and plagiarized from all his students while threatening their livelihoods with the fact he could easily exclude them from the art world?
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>>183990270
He didn't kill anyone. He's just as market tested as Adachi was. Which come to think of it is like the only thing they actually have in common.
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>>183990329
He was keeping Yusuke through mental abuse. Might as well be saying "yeah, but if the man was beating his wife, she would just leave, right?" It's not that easy. He drove a student to suicide, ruined lives and careers beyond that, and had no reason to stop.
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>>183990382
But Sae showed perfectly well that it DOES work. They never did steal her treasure, Joker reasoned with her, and he was practically a stranger and meeting her in a context where he had just about the lowest amount of trust and credibility possible. They just never bothered to seriously attempt it before this point.
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>>183990379
He killed Joker.
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>>183990427
Yeah, he did shitty things, but he's not a danger to anybody now. You can't really justify what they did to him as protecting his victims or whatever when Yusuke was the only current victim and was perfectly capable of leaving.
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>>183990467
>But Sae showed perfectly well that it DOES work.
Sae was an exception because
1. Her crimes were much lesser than the people the thieves targeted by choice
2. She was still a mostly good person and willing to listen to reason
3. She hadn't fucking killed anyone
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>>183990467
They beat up her Shadow, and Shadow Sae had a heart to heart with Makoto before the PT (and Akechi) were 'ambushed'.
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>>183989797
You don't even need to go that far. Look at Shido for example, he did sincerely believe he was doing the best for Japan because the government was corrupt and for how cartoon villain he ended up being that shows that feeling you're justified does not mean you're right.

>>183990002
I'm almost sure Haru couldn't hate Goro that much for the simple reason that her decision to break free would have destroyed her dad regardless and the subsequent blow to Okumura Foods would have far-reaching consequences that she's painfully aware of.

If he's a selfish asshole so was she in doing so, and she can't pretend otherwise because her Persona only manifested once she admitted her true desire was to fight back against her dad rather than any sentiments of nobility.

>>183990270
I disagree, the PT showing Goro mercy was one of the many instances in the game where they showed their true sense of justice.

Here was a guy who's been trampled on by practically everyone his entire life raging because they were about to rob him of the one thing he had left, and they understood that regardless of their conflicted feelings they had no right to snatch something this personal, showing as much impartiality as they could being teenagers. Justice is as much about listening to the plight of others and empathy as it is about punishment and reformation, after all.
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>>183990564
It's just a matter of degrees. She had a full fledged palace and was able to be reasoned into putting aside her distorted desires with no superficial means. You can't just arbitrarily say "well these guys committed murder so it doesn't apply", we have no reason to think that.
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>>183990379
>>183990445
>Shoot joker in the face
>Destroying someone's Shadow that will result death on real life

Really groofags
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>>183990606
I don't think just kicking the shadow's ass has that effect, but the exact mechanics are never explained
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>>183990497
yeah, he shot cognitive joker with the intent to kill, but he technically killed nobody
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>>183990635
But that wasn't his shadow, it was just a cognitive copy.
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>>183990635
not only are those both cognitions but shooting someone's Shadow doesn't kill them anyway
it's like throwing someone in the TV, but even more lenient on the perpetrator because the death doesn't happen automatically after a period of time it has to be arranged by a third party
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>>183990631
>It's just a matter of degrees. She had a full fledged palace
So did Futaba. Having a Palace = distortions, not evil inherently. Sae was not cartoonishly evil. She wasn't setting out to ruin lives and kill people. But she was on the road to ending up like that if she didn't change. Do you honestly think a heartfelt talk would change Shido?
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>>183990767
And once again, Futaba changed her desires on her own. Her treasure was never stolen.
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>>183990265
Good for you. Ann is for love after all.
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>>183990629
>Here was a guy who's been trampled on by practically everyone his entire life raging because they were about to rob him of the one thing he had left, and they understood that regardless of their conflicted feelings they had no right to snatch something this personal, showing as much impartiality as they could being teenagers. Justice is as much about listening to the plight of others and empathy as it is about punishment and reformation, after all.

Cool story, still a murderer though.

If IT is the one who facing him rather than PT, they will surely kill him on the spot.
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>>183990787
She WAS her treasure. And she left. So it was. But she also accepted her shadow.

But there's also no reason to think any of the real villains would have ever listened to reason. I mean, are you seriously saying the right thing to do is to go up to Kamoshida and go "I know you're blackmailing teens and selling people into sexual slavery and probably having people killed, but could you please turn yourselves in? You're doing mean, evil things."
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>>183990885
Whether or not he turns himself in is irrelevant. As long as he stops victimizing people isn't that good enough? I think if he knew his crimes were well known and that might eventually have consequences against him he might reevaluate his life.
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>>183990681
>>183990685
>>183990756
Attempt murder still counts you idiot. If I was the one who getting shot, I'll make sure to shot him back in his face.
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>>183990967
He isn't going to turn himself in. He's not going to stop. Ever.
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>>183991017
What makes you think that? He probably didn't even realize the gravity of what he was doing. Yeah it sounds bad when you see the end product, but he probably got there through a small escalation of initially fairly small things, never really noticing the point when he crossed over into being a legitimate criminal and scumbag. If he had a chance to take an objective look at his life I think there's a good chance he'd repent and want to go back to the way he was.
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>PQ2
>Another spin-off with the P4/P3 casts instead of using the superior P6 cast
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>>183990876
>If IT is the one who facing him rather than PT, they will surely kill him on the spot.
Which resulting them getting a bad end when they attempt once.
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>>183990971
the key word here is technically
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>>183990767
Sae was out to ruin lives though. She cheated in the courtroom so she could get ahead.
Shido is a religious fanatic with a social stance exactly opposite that of his real life counterpart, it's not really the same thing. People like Kaneshiro would bend if you took away all their money and power, people like Madarame would bend after their social status was gone.
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>>183991156
>He probably didn't even realize the gravity of what he was doing

"Guys, I didn't realize blackmailing teens and selling them into prostitution was a bad thing."
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>>183990660
Come to think of it, didn't Shadow Kamoshida and Madarame kind of show regret while Shadow Kaneshiro didn't?

>>183990767
Basically the problem with any Palace ruler is that there's extremely distorted feedback coming from both themselves and the outside world, and such a loop is not easily broken as we can see from how Futaba's distorted view of herself ran wild even after she shut herself away. Sae's Palace likely only happened quite recently, but had she become worse she'd also be beyond reasoning.

>>183990876
I don't think you get my point. Justice is not something you do for fame, to stick it in to shitty adults or to gain money, you do it because both the victim and culprit deserve to get to tell their side of the story. The PTs could understand that his chances of doing any better were nigh impossible but they still couldn't let him off as he's still a murderer, and that's the most they can give because they finally understood how complicated a thing justice really is in seeing such a situation and realizing it could have been easily have been Goro arresting any of them had the situation been reversed.
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>>183991189
Who gives a shit about technicality? If he murdered someone you love (Haru and Futaba is the clear example of this) then it's reasonable to retaliate by killing him.
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>>183991329
It's not like killing him would bring her dad back.
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Gorofag, nearly every post from you is spouting headcanon and baseless speculation. You're annoying to discuss the game with, because you're barely talking about the same game that everyone else is.
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>>183991376
there's more than one gorofag you need to be way more specific
I believe the (You) meme has a functional use in this case
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>>183991248
>Basically the problem with any Palace ruler is that there's extremely distorted feedback coming from both themselves and the outside world, and such a loop is not easily broken as we can see from how Futaba's distorted view of herself ran wild even after she shut herself away. Sae's Palace likely only happened quite recently, but had she become worse she'd also be beyond reasoning.
If Sae had been left alone, yes, she likely would have ended up just as bad as the others. But the Thieves get to her before that can happen.
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>>183991248
Justice is subjective. That's why they had the unanimous-decision rule. Because they recognizd what one might see as the right thing to do could be seen as abuse of their power by another member of their own team.
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>>183991475
that's basically what all gorofags do anyway
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>>183991183
>Which resulting them getting a bad end when they attempt once.
There's nothing to lose by killing Goro you fucktard. He died in the Palace and forgotten, which is a win situation for me because the police couldn't do shit.

>>183991248
>The PTs could understand that his chances of doing any better were nigh impossible but they still couldn't let him off as he's still a murderer, and that's the most they can give because they finally understood how complicated a thing justice really is in seeing such a situation and realizing it could have been easily have been Goro arresting any of them had the situation been reversed.
Goro is weak faggot who goes killing rampage because he can't took the shit he got. The PT got the same shit as him and yet they didn't turned into whiny vengeful murderous faggot.

And they should spit my statement above to his face.

>>183991360
>It's not like killing him would bring her dad back.
No. But killing him will prevent him to go another rampage and do the justice.
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>>183991656
That rule was always kind of bullshit anyway, none of them had any intention of vetoing a suggestion that Joker put forward. Think of all those Mementos requests that they basically rubber stamped in two seconds whenever you asked. It just gave them some peace of mind that they could all put the blame onto someone else if things went wrong.
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>>183991782
Or it would be obnoxious for every request to have everyone in the team put in their two cents on the issue when it really is clear cut.
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Reminder that PT would get along better with the P1 and 2 cast.
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>>183991183
Technically that's only because they were in a game where denying the truth would make them lose and Namatame wasn't the only killer.
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>>183991782
There were times when they didn't go ahead with stuff because not everyone was onboard yet. Also, not sure what you even want here. Did you want "Well, here's a sideque-NOPE, GOTCHA BITCH. NO GAMPLAY FOR YOU" type cockblocking?
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>>183991782
This. Just like every other persona game, everyone is in the wrong. It's just a matter of who's more just than the other.
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>>183991329
Anon, do you not get why murder is a near universal moral wrong regardless of your reason except for self-defense? Goro destroyed people's lives but so did they, why the fuck do you think Ann declares she's going to take everything away from Kamoshida?

>>183991519
Yep, also Futaba's and Sae's Palaces were important in showing that people can be changed without being psychically compelled to do so and had said Palaces not existed it may well be that the PT would have given in to Yaldy.

>>183991656
The issue I had with this is that the PT are very like-minded to the point this can devolve into groupthink, and like >>183991782 said it never really mattered except for Okumura's Palace.
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>>183991842
The P1 and P2 casts are shitty adults. Ryuji would hate them.
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oh hey it's the antigroo that can't speak english
hi antigroo that can't speak english
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>>183991842
That's bullshit. All the casts get along.

Hell, if Arena/Q hadn't happened I could see people saying "Man, IT and SEES would HATE each other."
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>>183991860
Namatame didn't kill anyone, and was unaware that he could've killed someone by putting them inside the TV. He's some combination of gullible, stupid, and negligent, but he never intended to kill.
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>>183991887
Didn't Morgana get really fucking mad the one time everyone didn't just immediately sign on to the plan?
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>>183991974
Can you imagine what would have happened if a Namatame had showed up in P5? Oh boy, that would have just gone to hell faster than you can yell "Okumura!"
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>>183991974
He cheated on his wife though
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>>183991974
True, but ignorance of ones actions aren't always an excuse. And he almost did (and on some timelines, he did). He was one of the culprits, and guilty of most of the things he was accused of, even if he wasn't ultimately THE killer.

Not saying he deserved to be killed or anything, just being pedantic.
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Does Catherine take place in the same universe as Persona games?
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>>183992064
Well, this is kind of why there's separate categories for stuff like manslaughter and negligence. The issue there isn't that Namatame didn't do anything wrong, it's more that the IT were willing to kill him as an eye for an eye exchange even though their understanding of what the fuck was going on when they saw his Shadow was very faulty and if they understood at all they'd realized they could have made the same incorrect assumptions he did.
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>>183992245
No, but it can be discussed here.
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How come Mitsuo didn't get a persona like everyone else did?
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>>183991942
>Anon, do you not get why murder is a near universal moral wrong regardless of your reason except for self-defense? Goro destroyed people's lives but so did they, why the fuck do you think Ann declares she's going to take everything away from Kamoshida?

Kamoshida just bullied a bunch of high school kids that only result one near death by suicide, behind the bars for at least 10-20 years is enough.

Goro killed, like a lot of of people, which some of them are truly undeserved ones.
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The IT only attempted to kill Namatame because:
1) They thought he was the killer.
2) He would get away with his 'crimes'.

If the IT defeated and captured Mitsuo/Adachi, and knew that they would still get away scot free with murder (and in these two cases, we KNOW that they committed those murders), what would happen?
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>>183992362
>which some of them are truly undeserved ones
[citation needed]
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>>183992296
>t's more that the IT were willing to kill him as an eye for an eye exchange
Not exactly. They only started considering that option after Shadow Namatame showed up and they realized that Namatame might get away with everything AND continue throwing people in.
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>>183992296
>The issue there isn't that Namatame didn't do anything wrong, it's more that the IT were willing to kill him as an eye for an eye exchange even though their understanding of what the fuck was going on when they saw his Shadow was very faulty
Actually, it wasn't really an eye for an eye. They had been fine with leaving him for the police until they heard his shadow say "Yeah, I did it, and not only did I do it, but I'm going to get out because you can't stop me, the police can't stop me, and I'm going to do it again."

Granted, it turns out the shadow was literally unlike every shadow they encountered up to that point because it wasn't truly his, but it was the ultimate temptation to give in to the easier answer. Even the option to spare him was essentially the same, except replacing "we'll stop him" with "we'll leave that to the cops."
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Akechi Goro.
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>>183992361
Why would he get a Persona? He didn't accept shit.
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>>183992457
What? You think everyone that are considered threat by Shidou are bunch of evil person? Take a look at Wakaba for fucks sake.
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>>183992245
Possibly
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>>183992361
He never denied or accepted his Shadow, and likely he was too insane to get one either way, like Namatame
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i'm dead, post some snug /pg/
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>>183992362
And killing him accomplishes jack all because in the first place he's more like a weapon than someone who murders others for the hell of it. That is not going to fly in court and no, that they could get away with it doesn't make it right.

>>183992509
>>183992516
Ah, that's true. It does show though that the truth is a complicated thing since seeing something not within your perception is difficult, much like how had the PT not have been forced to ruin someone's life and get revenge for the injustices inflicted on them they'd probably not have listened to Goro at all.
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>>183992971
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>>183992885
I thought Namatame did have a persona. Wasn't he given one by the gas attendant?
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>>183992457
The principal was going to go turn himself in and testify about Shido's crimes and got murdered. Killing someone to keep them from talking to police is not justified.
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>>183993052
He only got the power to enter tv's, which doesn't exactly mean they get a persona since he never entered it himself until Nanako. He turned into Amino Sagiri for the boss fight
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>>183992697
See here is where the problem with what you're saying is. We know precisely nothing about Wakaba other than that she loved her daughter, and that she had a Shadow that could be killed to trigger a shutdown. We know that you either have a palace or are somewhere in Mementos with a seedling distortion if you have a Shadow. It follows that she was fucked up but we have no perception of how much. She could've been easily redeemable like Sae or an evil scientist like Ikutsuki. Even someone as screwed up as Madarame actually cared about Yusuke.

Trying to assign morality to Goro's kills like this is pointless. The game is not going "oh he only killed evil people so his justification actually works" or "but he must have killed good people too", it's deliberately keeping it ambiguous and acting as though there's a definitive answer in the game is just projection.
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>>183993189
Oh, I thought the persona was included in the deal. I mean chad didn't have to face himself or anything to get his...? I know he didn't use it for his boss fight but I assumed he did have one.
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>>183992971
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>>183993210
>We know that you either have a palace or are somewhere in Mementos with a seedling distortion if you have a Shadow.
Everyone has a shadow.
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>>183992971
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus

Especially not with your dick.
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>>183993258
He very well could have, considering Adachi had both his shadow and Magastu-Izanagi, and Yu of course got Izanagi, But namatame knew very little about the tv world so maybe he didn't know how to activate it
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>>183993061
I do wonder what would have happened though, because the principal would have no way of knowing how corrupt the police was and it was a last-ditch resort after a certain someone called him. Especially with him being a relatively low-ranking member of the Conspiracy Shido could have passed him off as being insane.

>>183993210
Also, a guy who feels remorseless about what he did would not express interest in being a target when he knows pretty well that a change of heart isn't some magical tool to induce repentance.

I've got a question regarding Futaba by the way, the other targets didn't realize they have Palaces so is it possible only Palace rulers whose Treasures are self-related can recognize it, as their distortion isn't locked away?
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>>183993258
You have to understand and be okay with yourself. Namatame wasn't.
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So Teddie was the protagonist's shadow, right?
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>>183992971
damn fuukafags

>>183993497
probably Nanako's
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>>183993408
I'm going to hazard a guess and say that means "never wake sleeping dragons" or something?

>>183993443
More like he was living in a delusion and couldn't accept what he was doing, even if it was morally wrong.
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>>183993497
No, teddie was a simple mook shadow who gained an ego. Yu faced his own shadow in the Anime
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>>183993541
I like to think protag's because otherwise it's hard to explain that they meet the ONE friendly and talkative shadow immediately after entering the place. If you assume it was just his shadow confronting him the same way everyone else's does, but it went off script because he'd already been granted a persona due to divine intervention, then it falls into place.
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>>183993497

The anime scene for Yu's Shadow was actually great. Wish they'd had something approximating that in the game.
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>>183993616
>the ONE friendly and talkative shadow
He's not. It's just that none of the other shadows bothered to talk to them because they were persona users when they met and the shadows don't like persona users. When they met Teddie they were just normal people so he didn't have any reason to attack them.
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>>183993497
P4 might've been interesting if that was the case but nah any story involving the bear was contrived and the anime invented a Shadow for (You)
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PThieves vs. Shido is going to be so fucking hilarious in the anime. I can't wait.
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>>183993408
Why is she so perfect bros?
And not real? ;-;
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>>183992971
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>>183993602
you do know that the anime isn't canon?
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>>183993667
Yeah there's a very rarely talked about rule in the TV World that people without personas are essentially inert to shadows and won't get attacked by them at all until a rainy day.

They could have been fine searching to their content if Narukami was a user by default.
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>>183993210
What you said here actually made me realize there is a possibility that she had a Palace. Sojiro describes her as someone with a strong personality, we know from Futaba that they had fights but her mom promised they could go on a vacation once her research was done and that sounds kind of like Sae, does it not? It could be that the paper was in fact related to her distortion because as we know Palace rulers get more and more obsessed with their Treasure the more distorted they get, and the reason why Makoto and Futaba were hardly affected by such a distortion is due to their lack of relevance to said issue.
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>>183993701
Jesus Christ not need to be so passive aggressive towards a cartoon bear, much less the best Mascot character
>>183993824
But Teddie being a simple shadow who gained an ego is in the game
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>>183993836
Why do people call him by his last name? It's Yu.
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>>183993879
>But Teddie being a simple shadow who gained an ego is in the game
I'm not saying he isn't. Just that " Yu had a shadow in the anime" isn't exactly a good argument
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>>183993446
No as Futaba and Shido were both aware of their Palaces. Futaba was able to get into hers entirely because as he did more than once Yaldy gave Joker the means to not immediately lose the game and let the computer girl have the nav app early
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Do we ever get to see Joker's parents?
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>>183993991
That was unrelated to Teddie, I was just bringing it up if you were interested
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>>183993879
>best mascot character
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Troll idea: Make a bunch of Personas with tons of Repels. Fight the Twins solo, without taking any damage.
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>>183993965
When you watch the anime people only ever call him Narukami, probably because pronouncing his name in a sentence ruins flow.
>Chie following police car after they were arrested for having weapons
>YOSUKE!(first name) NARUKAMI!(Last name)
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>>183994036
Yes
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>>183994094
That's more or less the whole Japanese thing were people use last names if they aren't good friends
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>>183994082
Don't you just get megidolaon'd to death?
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>>183992973
>And killing him accomplishes jack all because in the first place he's more like a weapon than someone who murders others for the hell of it. That is not going to fly in court and no, that they could get away with it doesn't make it right.

Then they're bunch of pussies then. Sure if someone else kill someone loved ones because I WUS ABUSED AND ENSLAVED, then they gonna calmly talk-no-jutsu him out of it. What a realistic depiction for someone who've gone trough shit because of this crazy murderer.

>>183993189
Caring about her daughter in real life is already a good sign that she's morally positive.

>
Trying to assign morality to Goro's kills like this is pointless. The game is not going "oh he only killed evil people so his justification actually works" or "but he must have killed good people too", it's deliberately keeping it ambiguous and acting as though there's a definitive answer in the game is just projection.
The point is that he ALREADY COMMIT THE CRIME FOR FUCKS SAKE. You know what the sentence for murdering someone intentionally? Death or at least behind bars for entire life. The PT might as well kill him as an act of mercy. If he gives in, he's gonna get beheaded, which the same justification only this time trough the rightful authority, or getting lock up behind bars for eternity, which is worse and he might as well hang himself in the Cell.
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>>183994094
>yu and adachi share the voice actor
>the had to alter adachi's voice a bit so they sound different
>now adachi in the anime/arena games sounds fucking terrible
fuck
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>>183994171
there's no detection for anything other than omnipotent orb in this game, same as in P4
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>>183994190
They did the same thing in Dies Irae with Kei and Beatrice though
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>>183994082
uhhh, that's pretty much the only way to do it.

They'll reliably use 50% damage attacks on you near the end which conveniently levels out their health values if repelled. Any other method is too dependent on RNG. And this method is STILL pretty dependent on RNG.
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>>183994094
>When you watch the anime people only ever call him Narukami
1. Fucking stop watching the anime and basing things on it
2. Everyone calls everyone by their last name in Japan, but we don't call Naoto "Shirogane" and we don't go by Satonaka or Hanamura or Tatsumi.
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>>183994004
Didn't Shido only realize it when the PT were closing in on him and his Shadow reacted? Granted, we know from their observations that Shido is a lot more aware than other Palace rulers and the oddities regarding his Palace may be related to his high knowledge of the Metaverse and how he had Goro who could confirm such a thing anyway.
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>>183993653
Having Yu's shadow in game would have been pretty meta. They could have had you question why you've been playing the game
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Wakaba did nothing wrong.
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>comfy asmr
>snug /pg/
time to medicate and go to la la land
thanks /og/
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>>183994180
meant for this >>183993210
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>>183994227
>Don't go by the only piece of media that doesn't call him "Leader" in voiced dialogue

wut
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>>183992971
Is that a rare Door-tan I see?
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>>183994329
Arena. Ultimax. DAN.
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Who would win between P4 and P5 protags in a fist fight with no powers?
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>>183994212
Yeah. I thought I was a genius by making a Yoshitsune and a Trumpeter with Absorb Fire/Ice/Elec/Wind, but I then underestimated how boring it is to Charge > Heat Riser > Debilitate > Hassou Tobi repeatedly for half an hour.
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>>183994461
me
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>>183994461
No one.
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>>183994461
me
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>>183994180
law =/= morality m8, this is the one thing that SMT teaches

>>183994461
Joker easily, he actually works out, (You)'s only strength comes from having anime powers
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>>183994385
>Partner
>Senpai
>Sensei

I know his name is officially Yu Narukami in those games, but they dance around it completely. Unless you'd like to link a part where they straight up call him "Yu" I feel like these games were designed with a name select in mind.
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>>183994461
Tatsuya.
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who would win in a fistfight between
>>183994504 and >>183994537
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>>183994565
That person is also missing the point that Palaces aren't born out of sin, if Wakaba had distorted thoughts regarding her paper she could easily have a Palace while still treating her daughter fine. That's precisely why Palace rulers only attack people within their perceived domain.
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>>183994252
There was a drug made specifically to kill someone's Shadow so they were at least aware of that aspect beforehand
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>>183994605
I don't feel like looking through entire story modes for a moment like that, no. But unless you're going to start calling everyone else by their last names, it's just silly.
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>>183994605

Yosuke calls him "Yu" constantly in Arena.
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>>183994636
me
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>>183994701
Yep, Shido might be a cartoon villain but he's crazy prepared.
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>>183994843
he's not a cartoon villain he's that ishihara guy except he hates the old system instead of the new one
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>>183994701
Do you mean the drug Shido took in a last ditch effort to stop the PT? I thought that drug just stopped his vital signs for a few minutes, so his Palace would disappear due to being temporarily brain dead.
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nu

>>183994992
>>183994992
>>183994992
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>>183994605

Yosuke and Chie call him Yu all the time in Ultimax.
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>>183994180
>The point is that he ALREADY COMMIT THE CRIME FOR FUCKS SAKE. You know what the sentence for murdering someone intentionally? Death or at least behind bars for entire life. The PT might as well kill him as an act of mercy. If he gives in, he's gonna get beheaded, which the same justification only this time trough the rightful authority, or getting lock up behind bars for eternity, which is worse and he might as well hang himself in the Cell.

Actually in Japan some murderers have been released after a decade or so. It's not like the US.
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