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ZE LADY Edition

Norsca First Gameplay Glance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jFCMB-eHU

Norsca Roster:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/norsca-army-roster/

Norsca Racepack CGI trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbrbDa9EBR0

Mini-campaigns are gone, 4 LL packs instead
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/early-adopter-post-launch/

Dark Elves Roster Reveal:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/dark-elf-army-roster/

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Dark Elves In-Engine Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB6FaGBz0Lo

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 - High Elves Let's Play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8RQCwevAk

Total War Saga Announcement Blog
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-total-war-saga-announce-blog/

New Race Pack for TWWH1, New DLC for past historical game and other stuff:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3CmxjTFv_Y

Lizardmen Roster Reveal:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/

High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/high-elf-army-roster/

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Announcement Cinematic Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A

>FAQs and General Info
https://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

Last thread >>183896335

Screenshot sharing and campaign posting encouraged!
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Sooo.. What to do early on in a Wood Elf campaign?
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Total War: Portugal
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>causes terror
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Dark elves/Skaven gameplay when?
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SAXON
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>>183939842
FRANKS!
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>>183939582
Either
>farm rebels until you have beefy lords & take the other elf settlements
>go and kick the shit out of that 1 faction your at war with and take all their stuff for amber (to build up for confed)
You can also farm rebels for a bit before you do the latter if you want stronger lords / armies.
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*Blocks your path*
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>>183939667
>>183937629
how many Chaos stacks do you guys usually roll with?
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>>183939969
BRAVE GRANITES TO A MAN
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>>183939937
How about venturing out far with Orions army and killing Greenskins?
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Anyone have a link to the updated dlcs? I literally can not find any. Trying to use creampie but I can't actually find the dlc files themselves.
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>random faggots half the world away that got dragged into the war through alliances want 3k+ gold for a peace treaty just because i'm rich
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The RoR is wielding a greatsword if you look close enough.
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Will Throgg usurp Durthu as the strongest LL?

His stats seems pretty awesome, and if TT's anything to go by he'll have insane regen to top it off.

>>183940109
desu I completed the chaos campaign for the most part with only a single stack and just used another one to mop up minor settlements.

Got my shit kicked in slightly when I tried to take out fully confederated wood elves after destroying the whole of humanity though.
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post screenshots my dudes
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I miss old /twg/ memes
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So, all of you big guys like to play campaigns with 4tpy?

Personally, I can't stand seeing the Sillykids or Egypt blasted to oblivion by 230 BC, it just hurts my autism
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>>183940468
I wouldn't venture that far, you'll have to trespass a lot to get there as well.

If you're worried about killing Bretonnians know that wood elves fairly regularly go on wild hunts and absolutely murder a bunch of bretonnians.

Taking coastal settlements is a good idea as well as welves can get insane income from ports.
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>>183940917
>Gook
;_;
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>>183940985
Well fuck I just entered into non-aggression pact with Bordelaux and Carcassone
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Out of leo and grace which one would you fuck in a back alley and which one would you take to meet your parents?
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>>183941052
I miss him ;_;
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>>183939937

Go fuck up Skarsnik and Karak Norn and claim the Southern Grey Mountains.
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F I M I R
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>>183902193
>where modders are relied upon for fixing
I can bet that he is nostalgic Med2fag who don't see how fucking broken this game still is after 10 years of modding.
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>>183940917
>>183941052

Me too anon.
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>>183941201
>leo
who
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What do you guys do after destroying the realm you start in as beastmen? And how the fuck are you supposed to afford a hero's upkeep early on?
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Did that drawfag ever do the Morathi lewds?
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>>183941419

meme
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>>183941929
Oh yeah? Well YOU'RE a meme!
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>>183941764
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>>183941929
They're not a meme, mum!!
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>>183939969
*walks around ruining my formation*
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>>183941131
See if you can get military access and then take Tilea or Estalia, though if you go for Estalia then keep an army in that area since it's a spawn point for beastmen.
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>>183942028
>>183942051

MEME
E
M
E

L I T E R A L L Y NOT A SINGLE NAMED CHARACTER

PATHETIC T B H
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>>183941634
has Europa Barborum 2 been released btw?
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>>183941929
I miss krell poster ;_;
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>>183940827
fuck you, no screenshots for you today
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>>183940827
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>>183941201
I'd like to meet you in a back alley so I can fuck you to death with a sharpened screwdriver you cunt
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>>183942342
Apparently so, they're up to 2.2 now. Don't know if they're still selling underwear tho
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>>183941634
PONTUS
O
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T
U
S
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>>183942530
Rood
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>>183942342
It got released ages ago
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>>183939439
I always presumed that axe was for utility purposes judging by the sword & lance only route the Bret nobles take.
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Why can't I build this? I have the main settlement tier, I have the funds, why?
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>>183942954
Last warning bud
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>>183943058
hurrdurr nvm i should go to sleep
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>>183943135
penultimate warning friend
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>>183942306
YOU'RE THE MEME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183943180
i'm glad you realized you were retarded.
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>>183942984

Maybe. There's art of them holding hammers and morning stars, so maybe axes aren't wholly impossible.
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>>183942674
>>183942954
yeah wel was it good? I only remember /twg/ sperging out over the beta or whatever that was released and was broken
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>>183943217
Last
Warning
Bud
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>>183943374
That's the weird thing. I read somewhere that Bretonnian knights only use swords & lances for combat yet that's both improbable and contradictory to lots of pictures.
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>>183943398
I didn't really enjoy it, and I played a ton of EB1
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When starting a new campaign in Warhammer, is it best to get my armies up to a 20 stack with all the lower tier dudes, and then work on replacing them with better troops gradually?
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>>183943712
ya
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>>183943582
this EB or EBII? looks comfy
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>>183942984
>>183943374
The actual Duke of Brionne, Theodoric is famous for using a great battleaxe to fight.
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>No Norsca qts
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>>183944582
needs more mutated women in the lore
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>>183943712
Thats true for all TW games

Its one of the biggest flaws in the series, every fight is a 20v20.
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>>183944874
man I was literally just thinking this exact same thing

I blame the godawful army system they introduced in rome 2
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>>183944874
Didnt used to be like that. In medieval you would rarely reach 20/20, but fight many more battles with 8 v 12 or 4 v 7 etc etc.
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>>183944874
Part of the reason I always love manually fighting the first battle in campaigns, because it's not a boring 20v20 battle with late game elite units
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>>183944582
>wanting women in your armies
What are you, gay?
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>>183945017
I blame CA being pussies not updating their formula and making it so simplistic.

You literally build a 20 stack, then cycle out a unit type for a new one as you unlock it. There is zero cost/benefit analysis or thought required by the player. The campaign is designed so it literally plays itself for you. You start with swords and replace them with GS, spears to halberds, crossbows to guns, ect. Only in very late game do you get to elite troops with high enough costs to actually have to force you to think about taking another elite or taking 2+ normal units.

I honestly think we should start with all units unlocked (or should unlock them all very quickly), forcing the player to think about the benefit of taking an elite over a group of generic troops depending on what and who you are fighting. Then give AI empires a modifier for a tendency towards elite armies or mass swarms which you can see in the diplomacy screen so the player actually has to think for once about who they are fighting.
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>>183945314
They dont even let us mod it at all so we cant fix it

Warhammer would literally be better if armies were limited to 10 units on the campaign, and the AI didnt blob every single army they had. Imagine actually having multiple fronts, defensively and offensively where you maneuvered certain types of armies to engage certain types of enemy armies for your advantage (an army dedicated for anti large, or anti infantry, ect)
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>>183945314
I wish they made chaff useful outside MP
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>>183945572
the campaign has to play itself because half the fun rests on having a decent AI opponent.

TW games are largely about making your own fun, or playing on a high enough difficulty that your constantly at war and have to struggle a bit to manage your campaign.
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>>183946053
>TW games are largely about making your own fun
Because CA failed at making the campaigns challenging or engaging.
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About to start a FOTS campaign but I haven't played in about 2 years. What mods should I put on it?
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>>183946000
>Imagine actually having multiple fronts, defensively and offensively where you maneuvered certain types of armies to engage certain types of enemy armies for your advantage (an army dedicated for anti large, or anti infantry, ect)
but that is what I have?

You realise if you want difficult wars on multiple fronts you can just declare war on factions to open them up & tailor your army to fight said faction?
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>>183946231

I understand the Master of Strategy mod got a FOTS release, you should try that.
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>>183946249
No, you dont. Because you cant sustain 4+ armies in Warhammer without it being extremely late game. It is also entirely nonviable and stupid to do since piecemeal war is how the game is designed.
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>>183946231
The one that adds shotguns
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>>183945572
I would like to see them move towards a supply point system for units as a soft army limit cap rather than a hard 20 unit limit, but I can see why they stick with 20 units since it's easier to balance and lets them account for how well the game is going to run in a given scenario, since total war games have always been demanding to run once more than two armies get on the field
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>>183946437
you easily can, people are complaining that their armies are too elite and that you can't have too many armies...

and its making me seriously question the logic of that complaint.

splitting armies and using more chaff to have a wider frontage is okay.

total war is a sandbox, so if you play it the same way every time of course you'll be disappointed. you have to force yourself out of your comfort zone. nothing CA can do will make you do that.
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>>183946496
>I would like to see them move towards a supply point system for units
Any change would be good at this point
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>>183946195
Only if you play the game like an autist.

A lot of people
>never make defensive or military alliances because they get pulled into wars
>rush lightening strike with every general and build the most elite stack possible
>turtle for half the campaign until big enemy factions burn themselves out
and then complain that the campaign is boring. The funnest TW campaigns are the difficult ones so you should be making things harder for yourself.
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>>183946642
>you easily can
Stopped reading. No replies for you.

Lying to save face is just pathetic.
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>>183946642
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>>183946787
>being this small minded

alright keep complaining on 4chan instead of getting good.
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>>183946704
>play the game well
>its boring because of it
Thats CA faults, not the players. Xcom is hard even when you play well, so are many many other games, thats a system thats designed well.

TW is never hard ever if you play well, thats a serious fucking flaw.

Yes I agree that if you go out and limit yourself you can scrape together a better game. Limiting you units, generals, downloading harder mods, declaring war on everyone, ripping out your eyes and cutting off your fingers to make the campaign harder is better, but that doesn't change the fact CA is terrible at making good campaigns.
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>>183946437
>No, you dont. Because you cant sustain 4+ armies in Warhammer without it being extremely late game.
Yes you fucking can.

You're basically complaining
>games too easy, i just crush the enemy AI with my elite army!

Whereas in my campaigns I don't spam elite units, have multiple stacks early on because of this, have multiple wars going on and actually fight challenging battles nearly every turn because I'm not just spamming elites to win.

>It is also entirely nonviable and stupid to do since piecemeal war is how the game is designed.
>a fun way of playing the game is stupid
wasn't designed for piecemeal war either you retard, it's a fucking sandbox game.
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>>183947080
Not him but post a picture of you with 4+ armies
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>>183947005
That's not playing the game well you dipshit, that's being an autistic powergamer and not understanding how to have fun in a sandbox game.

I just basically listed all the things that can make the game boring and trivial and mean that an absolute retard can win a legendary campaign, doesn't have anything to do with being good at it.
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>>183944350
I wonder why they went for Alberic, when much more famous Knights exist
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>>183947298
>playing the game well is not playing the game well!
We're done here
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>>183947313
Or even Tancred, specialised in fighting undead
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>>183939969

1. surround city with rocks like this
2. becomes impenetrable
3. profit
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>>183947313
Alberic is a great idea considering warhammer 2.

They gave him naval bonuses so as to let him more easily be the bretonnian lord you can take if you want to go to the new world.

which is neat to me.

Although i was expecting Tancred II, with some sort of light or anti-undead type bonus.
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>>183947298
I can imagine you as a general sitting beside Hannibal saying
>We should dismount our cav and send them in naked! It will be more fun if its hard!
Then you get stepped on by an elephant for being a retarded faggot.
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>>183947491
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>>183947298
>how to have fun in a sandbox game.
We would all have more fun if TW games had better campaigns. You have serious autism.
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>Playing BC 2.4 as based Red death aka Ghorids
>Curb stomp Ghaznavids and Sind, invade the yellow pajeets and just siege most of their cities out because elephants
>Getting ready to invade Purple Pajeets and spread the creed of Islam and pooing in toilets to the idol worshipers.
>Attack two of their armies outside of their capital at the start of the war, want to smash Purple Pajeets in one big battle
>Pajeets bring 6 or 7 fucking War Elephants
>I had planned ahead by bringing some infantry with Javelins with me.
>Smash one of the armies with only the general elephant unit by having my second army hit them in the back and surround and slaughter them, kill the Son and faction heir of King poo.
>King poo and his war elephants charge, with a number dying to the javelins and getting stuck fighting those same javelin-men
>Throw my infantry against his elephants and kill king, poo army starts running
>chased them down with based Ghulam cavalry.
Islam and better sanitation once again triumph over Idols and shitting streets.
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>literally just walked past the all of those Imperial cities just to raze one of my holds

fuck this stupid game
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>>183947313
Well he his one of the few, if not the only Duke who his not a Grail Knight, and they wanted a melee lord who wasn't on. But at least the name are still here. I got a awesome campaign where Adalhard (Duke of Lyonesse) got higher level than Louen by cleansing Brettonia and the south realm of beastman, invading norscan, and some other random armies, winning the title "The Legend" ( making him unbreakable) before fighting during the final battle against Archaon. Was fucking great.
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>>183947825
Maybe we should all give CA more Charlemagnes so they can pay for some better AI
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>>183947825
>The state of the forces of Order

Winning is going to be easy for you though.
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>>183947261
It's not hard for welfs desu
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>>183947414
>he thinks autoresolving with elite stacks & lightening strike is being good at a total war game
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>>183947967
We should pre-order Warhammer 3
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>>183948083
Only if CA hires someone for their AI department

I assume at the moment its just a closet where a blind monkey throws shit at a keyboard to create AI code.
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>>183947751
>>183947606
>I suck so you should suck too.
faggots.
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>>183948208
We are complaining its too easy you uneducated moron.
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>>183947572
>that first saying

10/10
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>>183946053
>TW games are largely about making your own fun
Funny you say that when CA doesnt agree with you and W2 is literally them making the campaign less sandbox and more story driven.

So get BTFO autismo and stop shitting up the thread.
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Roll chart update when?
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How strong will wufric be on a mammoth?
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>>183948662
As strong as Wulfric on your MOM
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>>183948662
He loses the ability to duel. So it would be a waste to put him on one.
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>>183948765
I was thinking about the abilities and the attack and defence buffs
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>>183946053
Shame the empire campaign is basically
>Confederate
>Defeat chaos
>Now play like a total war game
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>>183948509
read your own fucking post and ponder for a moment.

Do you see how retarded what you just posted was?
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>get like 50 turns in
>something goes wrong and no save games are saved at like 5-10 turns behind, only like 2/3 but the situation can't be fixed from there
>have to restart
>happens for like 50 hours of playtime
>only once I got to like 200 turns

this is getting pretty fucking boring
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>>183948973
>save scumming
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>>183948956
>hurr making your own fun!
>CA fix the campaign by making it linear instead
Yes, you got BTFO, well done have another (you)
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>>183940109
Depends on how many I want and how quickly I can get them, which involves long term planning. Overall I think Chaos needs something like that building the Beastmen have that severely reduces growth while massively reducing upkeep, so that I too can swarm the world with horror.
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>>183948854
>he didn't declare on Middenland and subsequently nordland as soon as he found out they were funding jihadi rebels in Reikland
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>>183940601
Sounds like you're really going to enjoy the combined map then

>>183940917
>3.5 years ago
>old memes

But I also wish it was January 2014 again, because that semester really kicked ass
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>Kislev CGI trailer
>Something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YlbiyiuMc starts playing
>Kislevites describing how shit their situation is
>but its alright because they are used to being the first shield of mankind

Kislev is such a fucking good faction holy shit
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>>183949074
Anon hes utterly retarded. He actually thinks TW is better if every fight was the same and you have to limit yourself instead of CA making it challenging. Just ignore him, CA is already doing the right thing like you said and making W2 objective based.
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>sarthoreal has unique voice lines in diplo screen
neat, he has the 'smart and deceiving' voice that archaon doesn't have
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>>183949074
Ok I'll just spell it out.

Here's what you posted:
>CA doesn't agree with you that TW games are about making your own fun!
>that's why WH2 is advertised as a break from other TW games by being less of a sandbox!

Do you see now?
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>>183942306
>race made in the late 1980s then quietly dropped from existence
>not a single named character

What a shock
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>>183949401
>trying to change what was said to save face
Sad.

You claimed TW is about making your own fun, which W1 is since the campaign is shit. W2 is about CA making the fun for us since its objective based and more linear.

You got BTFO by CA, have a nice day.
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>tfw no weather and time of day still.
I just wanna play ze lady and poof the weather to my years content.

Or Skaven miasma fog..!
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>>183949401
You need to learn how to read kid that is absolutely not what is being talked about. You claimed TW is a sandbox. W2 is less sandbox than W1 so obviously CA doesnt agree that making your own fun by limiting yourself is a smart way to design a game. I think when the whole general and the developer all disagree with you you should take a hint and stay quiet.
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>>183949516
>You got BTFO by CA, have a nice day.

dear lord you sound like such a faggot
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>>183949654
Hearts content*

I just want heavy as fuck rain battles
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>>183949250
I bet CA makes them their own faction but they reskin and rename grail knights/guardians into hussars, and the early game knights get skinned into cossacks, with the yeomen reskinned to be hunnic archers.
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>>183949654
Can't wait for skaven's weapon teams
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>>183949042
but I explained i'm not doing that because the save games aren't even at times when I could do it anyway

it's just boring now because learning to play ends up in hours of progress ruined by some stupid fucking shit you didn't even have any idea existed and you can't fix it
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>>183949516
That is literally what you posted though.

No one was talking about WH2. You brought it up to claim Total War games aren't about making your own fun when:

#1 it's not fucking out yet so we don't know if the campaign is shit or not
#2 it's literally advertised as a break from the standard total war formula that we were discussing
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>>183950034
>>183949780
>samefag to save face
Inb4 your paint edited reply, grow up kid you were wrong.
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>>183949730
>obviously CA doesnt agree that making your own fun by limiting yourself is a smart way to design a game.
>You need to learn how to read kid
OK, where did I say that, master reader?
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>>183950131

You do know they're making another even larger campaign that's supposed to be even less story focused than Warhammer 1's, right?

I really shouldn't be taking this bait right now.
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>>183950131
Stop responding to him hes trolling anon. No one is actually so stupid to think TW has good campaigns, even CA knows that.
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>>183949250
ik, it mite be the hardest faction to play.
fucking when CA? it's been a year already.
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>>183950293
I know, its just funny how hard he wants to save face after getting btfo.
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>>183950131
>shitposting instead of replying to what was posted
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>>183950496
Not him but why do samefags always post paint edits? We all know you're posting it because you got your shit called out.
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>>183946231
>>183946231
additionally, do yall suggest using a workshop mod for larger units or just altering it myself in that txt file?
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/twg/ - Austim/General
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>>183949250
Katarin will be made ugly, even though she's the hottest humie ever

Witch hunter will look like Oy Gevalt

Cavalry will become Polish

Handgunners will wear green and look like it was 1718

Bear cavalry
Wild bears
Bear cavalry (with shields)
Bear cavalry gunners
Bear cavalry gunners (grenade launchers)
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>>183950607
>claim its a paint edit
>posts an edit with a wonky second (you)
you dun fucked up
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>>183950670
Im pretty sure its the same underage, hes always on around this time and claims everything about Warhammer is perfect and every time someone criticizing something he goes apeshit.

So its more like /twg/ - One faggot trying to ruin the party
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>>183950734
you forgot the most important
>bear chariot or beariot
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Do you think they will one day ease off the modding restriction and let us import/export models?
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>>183950898
>import/export models?
Hahhahahahahahhahhahahahaha

No. You cant sell new units if modders made them already.
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anyone have that roll tabble
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This is a Kislev Celestial Wizard
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G O B L I N S
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>>183951030
and the Tzar's relationship with the wizards
https://youtu.be/epwznxJ8zaE#t=19
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>>183950991
By one day, I mean after TWW3
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>>183950991
> if modders made them
If modders made them, they would look like dogshit and nobody would want them. The issue is that there are already a host of assets modders have ripped from other Warhammer games that they could import very quickly.
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>>183950670
>a community of 4chan
>based around a series of grand strategy games that have historically been based around real history
>then a big fantasy name comes and brings a ton of new people in
>autistic

gee what a shocker
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>>183951318
No. Because even then people will make LotR and other licensed games and GWS doesnt want that liability.
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It is now July, a chill wind blows in Naggaroth but the sea of malice is beginning to thaw. From Ghrond, a messenger comes bearing word of an ancient prophecy involving the lands of north Lustria. The Hag Queens offer many sacrifices to Khaine, while their underlings train relentlessy. Meanwhile the Druchii of Clar Karond whip their slaves ceaselessly in preparation for the Witch-Kings coming campaign.
A great fleet is being assembled and the armies of the Druchii arm themselves for total war, domination by a best elf soon!
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>>183951368
>If modders made them, they would look like dogshit and nobody would want them.
Pfthaha, sure kiddo, sure. Ill take your word on that over the literally thousands of mods that prove modders can make content bigger and better than developers.
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This is a Kislevite priest of Ursun
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What the fuck you guys are smoking. CA will never use worst slavs like Ukraine and Russians to base Kislev on, why they would even bother trying to copy shitskins of slavs world? Kislev will be 100% Polish and based. Besides, HRE cosplayers must have their little brothers near them.
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>>183951368
>they would look like dogshit and nobody would want them
better use the TES communities rather than Warband communities for judging on model/texture creation desu
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>>183951565
How are crosses related to bears?
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>>183951635
>hes never seen a bear get crucified
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>>183951595
based
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>>183951443
>ywn have kids with Morathi
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>>183951796
only abomination there is that godawful combat
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>>183951796
>tfw there will never be a warhammer rpg on the level of the witcher

why live?
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>>183951796
Why is everything in Poland so fucking badass. (I know why, I just want to praise them)
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>>183951932
Compared to what?
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>>183951537
That has never been the case. Quality mods are as rare a unicorns.

>>183951619
Why? TES is infinitely more popular than total war and is going to attract talented modders. Mount & Blade has far more overlap, including the high amount of autistic turks. Regardless, here is the wonderful treeman unit provided in a Total War mod.
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>>183951932
what's "Good combat" to you then?
>inb4 weebshit
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>>183951796
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>>183952007
t. Pole
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>>183951932
Is this bait or are you serious bud?
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>>183952263
darn you caught me
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>>183952263
I'm from Florida bud. Although I lived in Michigan for awhile, as well as Indiana, and Georgia. A boring American.
>>183952427
You aren't me
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>>183952427
Are you a telephone pole? A north pole?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwHGbz-iPo
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>>183952319
>>183952160
>defending shitty ballerina dance swordfighting

wew
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who else /waitingfornorscabeforenextcampaign/ here
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>>183951057
You want schemes? I've got schemes!

Why is Skarsnik so cute?
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>>183939439
not a mention of history..

So is there a compilation of settlement maps or do you just pick out of a hundred random maps?

I still don't know how to search on steamworkshop
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>>183953528
gunna try GCCM?

without the hive I guess I can't into
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>>183953041
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>>183953528
GCCM or Minor Settlement pack are the big two.
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>>183951996
Good, why would you want Warhammer crpg to be shitty Ass Creed game which only pretend to be crpg?
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>>183954109
>comparing witcher to ass creed
come on now
shadow of mordor is a good comparison to ass creed, but not witcher
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So is multiplayer just about infantry spam for every faction? I've noticed that even Bretonnia is an infantry focused faction in multiplayer.
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Is there a substitute for SFO balancing wise. I liked the chaff actually being useful since elites don't kill high density fast enough without chaff support.

Not interested in any of the new content of SFO and its getting bloaty and the campaign changes is even more hate boner toward player I feel.
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Why are there so many kislevposters in the thread suddenly?

was something leaked about them?
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>>183954820
No, just that with the new Norsca DLC, fighting an actual Kislev faction would have been nice
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>>183955091

I would've wanted Kislev before Norsca desu
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>>183953146
Yeah, I'm /wait in Gfornor Scabefo Ren Extcampa IGN/ here
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GROBI FUCKING SHITS
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>>183954820
I fought with Kislev maybe once, in my first campaign which was as Vampires and never again. Probably a lot of people don't interact with them often too because they are always quickly wiped out and fighting against them as The Empire feels wrong. But as Norsca you will probably face them more often so it would be nice to give them some uniqueness and thus people ask about them.
And since they are incredibly easy to make, more popular than Norsca and CA stated so quickly that new dlc is not them it probably means that they have plans for them.
Kislev is pre-order DLC for W3 mark my words.
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This guy comes to the battlefield and slaps your vanguard's ass. What do you do?
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Who's the drumpf of the warhammer universe?

Also, I cant wait for the first tw2 DLC, apparently we are getting le quirky vampire coast captain jack sparrow DLC, with a merwyrm, skeleton pirates and undead crabs. Love how CA is devoted to keeping the vamps fresh and updated
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FOR THE KARAZ ANKOR
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>>183955664
>giant
>trolls
>boar boys
>Wurrzag
>didn't die

Shameful
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Ok, so what is your favourite
>LL
>type of non-Legendary Lord
>Faction to play
>Faction to play against
>unit
Also, what faction are expecting the most
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>>183955729
It's hard to interact with any faction that has the "passive" diplomacy trait.
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>>183955830
most reddit faction right here
> manlets
> nu male beards
> le dawi craft brew
> le steampunk aesthetic
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>>183953886
Thanks... going for first tree Hitler vh run. trying not to cheese which seems to be the only right way that I have to do.

ill tell you if GCCM works out. Ill report on how bullying dorf foothills go.
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>>183956062
>not reddit rats

hownew.ru
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>>183955962
>Takeda Shingen
>Generals bodyguard
>Takeda
>Ikko Ikki
>Dunderbuss cav

:^)
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>>183955962
>LL
Vlad
>type of non-LL
Strigoi ghoul king
>faction to play
Either VCs
>unit
Crypt Horrors but Minotaurs are a close second

As far as what faction I'm expecting the most? That would be Lizardmen
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>SOON
>>
Is watching replays when you remember how epic your narrative the way to go?
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>>183956161
woah buddy, its almost like no one cares if it isnt fantasy!
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>>183955962
>LL
Durthu for angry tree death.
>type of non-Legendary Lord
Strigoi Ghoul King or Glade Lord/Glady.
>Faction to play
Vampire Counts with heavy monsters or Tree Hitler with heavy monster focus. Monstrous units are fun.
>Faction to play against
None really, they all have their virtues as opponents.
>unit
Minotaurs & Great Eagles.

>>183956109
GCCM offers some maps with proper choke points, if you get one of those place Durthu with a unit of Treekin in it and heal/buff them. Nothing will ever get past.
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Come one, come all, and test your luck against the Changer of Ways!!
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>>183952160
>>183952109
DD/MH/Souls

Or just throw a dart at any game that isnt Asscreed/SoM or Witcher and you'll hit something better
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>>183956431
esl detected
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>>183955962
>Vlad
>Vampire Lords
>Actually Bretonnia
>Orks
>Blood Knights
As for the faction i'm expecting the most, that would be Tomb Kings
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>>183955962
>TRUE KING
>IDK
>Empire
>Chaos
>CHOSEN

Tomb Kangz, but since they'll probably be a DLC I'll say Dark Elves
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>>183951714
Ya know, I could see this happening in a strange, remote part of Siberia.
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>>183956450
Fuck you, I care. KYS
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>>183956548
yolo
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>>183956586
No, am actually great scholar in ever ending war of English lies... but thank you community for helping this poor treehitler pacify the forest?
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>>183956565
DD's combats are just as bad.
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>>183955962
>Balthasar Gelt
>Vampire/Empire lord
>VC/Empire
I can't really decide. I love them both, though I remember my Mosuillon campaign as the most fun one.
>Greenskins
>Mortars
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why is this even still called /twg/ when everyone only talks about tww

shouldn't it be /twwg/
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>>183956548
:^)

>>183956565
did you know you have shit taste?
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>Norscans are going to be more fleshed out, interesting, and fun to play as than Warriors of Chaos
I don't know what to feel about this.
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>>183956743
Also, Karak Norn must . . . bark.
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>>183956762
I had a ton of fun with DD's combat
Imagine if Slayers could jump onto Giants like characters in DD do!
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>>183956821
Because history is still loved and welcomed you fucking Chicken Little; but because we're in a three-game run with TWW, you better expect it to be fantasy heavy until the next historical release.
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>>183956821
>people discussing a total war game
>RRREEEEEEE STOP STOP STOP STOP STOOOOP *shits pants*
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Hey guys, CA here, we are running out of novel mechanics / ideas fo make the new races unique tactically and strategically, if you could help us out with brainstorming suggestions that'd be fantastic!

The tomb kings have very little to set them apart from VC.

Araby, Kislev and the Tilean/Estaliand are also troublesome, and our theorycrafting on Chaos yielded nothing
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>>183956884
Ok so Druthu and his treekin plus "loyalist" elfs hung around, beat on the locals, then prepared to make mountain vistas.

murdering the brave elf locals was not worth learning how to take screenshots, but soon enough I will figure it out.
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>>183956278

can't wait to put edgyelves in their place and raze naggaroth to the ground
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>>183957027
>The tomb kings have very little to set them apart from VC.

They're completely different in the TT though.
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>>183957084
Within the TW engine there is nothing that makes them flavorful outside of being inferior VC with ranged options
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>>183957018
They better put Viking cavalry in that Total War saga game they're making.

I wonder if they'll delve into that time where the Vikings had contact with the Aztecs.
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>>183957068
>tyrion
>kang

HOL UP
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>>183956762
DDs combat utterly shits all over Witcher and thats just a fact you drunk pole
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>>183957068
>implying you'll get past the throng
Snorri and Malekith bros forever.
>>
Why does Chaos suck so much ass?

Even shittonia is scarier than Chaos and has better heavy infantry
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>>183957334
>better heavy infantry
you know that's outright wrong
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>>183956868
please be an actual mod
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>>183956718
BY VALAYA'S RADIANT HELM!
>>183956868
time to RIDE THE MOUNTAIN

>>183956548
By the six-sinned, seven-poxed, thrice upon thrice damned Eight-Fold Path of Chaos, SURELY THE DARK GODS WILL BLESS ME THIS TIME!

in the end i just want to have fun again
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>>183957317
Both have mediocre combats and are not the reason why they are good game
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>>183957489
foot squires are more cost effective

and they have dismounted cav, or heavy melee cav that shits all over chosen

WHY ARE MY CHAOS WARRIORS not thr wrecking balls of death who instead crumble versus greatswords, footsquires, wardancers etc
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>>183957750
>putting armorer ed infantry against armor piercing
you're retarded aren't you
>>
>>183957729
>not the reason why they are good game
Your English is so bad I can smell the vodka from here

Back to your containment threads on /v/. DD > Witcher. End of discussion.
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>>183951030
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>>183957750
>send armored infantry against AP units
>surprised when they get rekt
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>>183939439
>Do a Takeda cavalry-only playthrough
>armies are actually super effective and all my battles are insanely easy despite being outnumbered all the time
>doesn't matter how many armies i fight against since whole army is mobile
>only way i can lose is if all my bow cav run out of arrows
is this why the mongols shit stomped everything? did they just cheese their way to an empire?
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>>183957952
That and they really loved scouting things out.
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>>183957027
A grudge system that only records a grudge when an army is raiding or a settlement sacked, with the subsequent mission being to either destroy the raiding army or to sack a settlement belonging to the faction to remove the grudge and for a reward for recovering an artifact, also if you're fighting Tomb Kings as another faction you'll get significantly more funds from sacking their settlements than you would an equivalent settlement of another faction. Also your settlements can be sacked with out a faction having to declare war on you to do so.
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>>183957841
>>183957876

What dumb logic is this, you are telling me a plate clad chaos warrior is supposed to be worse against """armor piercing""" than a butt naked marauder?

How fucking dumb is this

Chaos is indisputably the worst faction, considering chaos armor is blessed by the dark gods it should grant resistance or ingnorance to all AP damage
>>
Ok you fucks I just spent 15 minutes looking for wherever the fuck steam is saving the photo I JUST TOOK and fuck that Ill just have to make this shit from replays.
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>>183957952
horse archers have never not been OP ok except in rome 2 where they gave it that shitty only-front-arc shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Carrhae
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>>183958090
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>>183957334
>Foot squires better than Chosen
(lol
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>>183957750
>Bretonnia has dismounted cav
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>>183957952
So many play them wrong by only fielding Yari cavalry
My setups were often
>Takeda Shingen
>9 bow cav
>4 light cav
>4 Yari cav
>2 Katana cav
Light cav are underrated and great at supporting your bow cav
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>>183957318
>bros forever

Malekith pissed off snorri so bad that he literally came back from the dead full of rage to get revenge as the white dwarf.
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>>183958146
considering you can get two foot squires for the price of a chosen, said foot squires are mobile, and are far more gold / stat value, and armor / gold value, then yeah, they actually even manage to get to battle on time
>>
>>183958146
Chosen are an overpriced meme unit and its almost impossible for them to pay back their cost.

By comparison, foot squires might be the most efficient AP infantry in the game
>>
>>183958231
>>183957952

Did they add Nippon to warhammer total war?
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>>183958090
>Chaos is indisputably the worst faction
No, that would be beastmen by miles

Chaos are fantastic, you're just bad.
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>>183958412
no, but considering that CA kind of has free reign to create factions to put in the game, it's a slight possibility
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>>183958412
I can't tell if your joking or just retarded.
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>>183958497
It will happen, they have the license until 2020 or something like that, they will milk the cow to the last drop
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>>183958251
Pointy eared lies to disparage the proud Druchii people.

t.not malekith
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>>183958565
He's a warhammer kiddie, the IQ of this general dropped by 40 points when this gamr released. Prior to that twg was one of the most intelligent scions of this site
>>
>>183958565
>>183958693
m8 it's a joke, making fun of the fact that since Norsca, no one ever talks about other TW titles
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Somebody was asking a couple days ago if you had to kill all the lords, or just the lord from one army to get undead to crumble.

Turns out they won't crumble until you kill all the lords.
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>>183958693
>Prior to that twg was one of the most intelligent scions of this site
>>
>>183958693
When you stop talking about reality and go in circles discussing fictional fantasy peoples, it generally does make you dumber.
>>
>>183958129
who's this semon demon
>>
do you guys generally conquer a good swathe of the map by turn 100? usually i'll be 2-3 provinces deep and just maxing out units, which fucking sucks because i know i'll outtech virtually everyone
>>
>>183959053
Depends on the faction.
>>
>>183958693
> HIGH IQ
> Total war
>>
>>183959053
Depends on what I feel like doing that campaign and what faction I'm playing as.
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>>183958965
because shitting on Seleukia and meming about Pontus is so much more intellectually stimulating
>>
>>183959132
the normal factions
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>>183958931
They just suffer a ldrship penalty
>>183958931
>5 fps
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>>183959257
Only for trve understanders, my friend.
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>>183956548
new roll sheet soon
>>
>>183959257
>>183959537
hahah i saw this on reddit the other day, its strange how 4chan is copying reddit nowadays :P
>>
>>183959257
yes, because those are still based in reality, which gives it a kind of grounded-ness, rather than mentally masturbating about made-up things that are about as solid as wisps of smoke.

when you build upon a foundation of nothing, the resulting product has no real substance.
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>>183959648
私はあなたを殺すでしょう!
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>>183959648
when did /twg/ degrade into a (You) baitfest?
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>>183959771
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>>183951537
>better than developers.
reminder that the BotEt devs also like TWW and don't see them selves in competition with CA
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>>183959765
>in this moment, I am euphoric. not because of some phony made-up stuff, but because of real stuff.
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>>183958231
my comp was much more simple
>12 bow cav, divided into 2 groups of 6
>7 yari cav, divided into 2 groups of 3 and 1 to protect the general
The yari cav are really only there to protect against other cavalry, which is why i opted for them over everything else, considering they're the best anti cav unit that isn't a special unit like fire cav or great guard

i mean it doesn't really matter, as long as it works i guess
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Any mods for S2 that bump the named hero units up a tier in the chain so that you have to build the top tier dojo to get them? I hate the ai spamming them
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>>183959963
Light cav is better at fucking up cavalry, actually. More cost effective
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>>183959943
still doesn't make me wrong, shit-eater.
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>>183959648
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>>183960174
have you ever been right about anything? because you certainly aren't right about that
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>>183957952
mongols were infamous draw kiters
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>>183960317
wow what a counter-argument.
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>>183959537
>bullying Seleukids
stop doing that
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>>183960421
>he thinks everything has to be an argument

did you just make it here from /r/atheism bud?
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>>183957043
oh... figured it out. Jesus I am dumb.
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>>183960421
can't make a counterargument if there's no argument in the first place
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>>183960509
My War Elephant Can't Be This Kawaii!
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>>183955962
Azhag da Slaughterer
Night Goblin Warboss on Squig
Greenskins
Empire
Vargheist

Nurgle host
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odds: massalia
evens: colchis
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>>183960509
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>>183960651
Admitting your mistakes is the first step on the path to nirvana~
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>want to play dorfs for their cool artillery
>it takes 80 turns to unlock
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>>183960884
get good, wazzock
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>>183960157
I guess that's the key here, cost effectiveness. Yari is definitely better on a per-unit basis since their unit size and morale alone makes them stronger, but I guess if it's a matter of you fielding two light cav or 1 yari cav then light cav are better.
Also I'm talking about singleplayer not multiplayer, which could be the basis of your argument (i don't play avatar conquest so i have no clue about it)
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>>183960826
please no more.
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>>183961030
Okay, I'm sorry...
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>>183960884
You only need Organ guns and a single grudge thrower to bait the enemy into charging you.

Anti-large should be handled by Slayers, Hammerers and Ironbreakers.
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>>183960628
I don't know what that is. Looks like you're an expert on it though, so tell us all about it.
>>183960707
>There's no argument because I'm too retarded to possess reading comprehension!!
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>>183961120
Thanks
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>>183961298
Why are you so triggered at people having fun?

We get it, TW is historically a series about history. Fine. You don't have to sperg out just because people have fun and you don't.

Want my advice? Kill yourself
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>>183961493
step one) don't reply to the bait
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>>183961493
>Why are you so triggered
I'm not the guy who just told someone to kill himself. Enjoy projecting your faults onto others, pal.
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>>183961493
Most of the other Total war games are inaccurate enough to BE fantasy, Do these niggers think Braveheart is great because of its RICH HISTORICAL setting?
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>Rise of Mordor will probably be playable after my 30 years old birthday
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>>183961887
me on the right
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>>183961887
>No decent campaign map

Why even bother
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SHAGG'D
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>>183961298
>They are a shadowy part of the Roman army organised in small groups and competent in camouflage and deception. The arcani exist almost as a secret society whose very name should not be spoken. The armour they wear is finely crafted so that while it offers great protection, it will not slow or tire the fantastically fit arcani troops. Their face masks mean opposing troops may even flee in terror when surprised by a group of these blood-thirsty killers!

damn I sure do love that """"history"""""
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>>183961482
uhhh...Why is that elephant so small?
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>>183962064
Why did you post an empty picture?
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>>183962035
Shit, why do you even have the fucking Warriors at that point? Meme it up and go for broke because you will be if not already are
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>>183962005
I would better play LOTR in Europe than not play it at all.
Also the most fun I had was playing multi with friends on custom maps, like defending Thranduill's hall
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>>183962385
>having friends
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>>183959007
Kendou from Boku No Pico Academia
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>>183947313
I really don't mind them choosing Alberic, considering his starting location on the map. I just hate how generic he looks, they didn't bother even a bit to give him unique looks.
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>>183959007
all you see is her face and that's enough for you to proclaim a semen demon?
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>>183962385
>>183962005
By the way, how would you put ME factions into Europe?
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>>183963042
its a meme you dip
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>>183963126
Probably have to split the Middle East into more regions.
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>>183963126
>tfw never cared about LOTR
why do so many people like it
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>>183963568
the music moved me to tears
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Post YFW CA releases more Fantasy titles after Warhammer 3
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bake a new thread, something weird is going on with this one
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>>183963761
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>>183963761
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>>183963568
One of the greatest piece of litterature, and inarguably the greatest in terms of world building
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>>183963761
>>
aabg gnbgaheihruygbvieabghralfgtbikAWEFRSBawegrsi4iugttgv8778t5ey47sghfbngjklsghfs
NIGIGERRAREFD JEWJQW KIEKE


FUCK HTIS GTJAMERGSGRJKTHTJKNRHJNRTYDJIKNIJNSIJUTGHUIJYOGUHIYHIUERGUYHIRFGTHIUYHGITFORGTIRIIGHYHIUYRDFGTX
NIGERTFG I NMUYY M9OM,
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>>183963761
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>>183963761
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>>183963761
Yeah, Age of Sigmar
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>>183963761
>It's a new IP by CA.
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>>183963761
What would even be some other good fantasy settings fot TW?
Don't say GoT, it's shit.
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>>183963860
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>>183939753
>fear
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>>183963761
>mfw official LotR total war game
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>>183963761
fantasy, sure, but no more Fantasy. Once we've got the full trilogy there's nowhere productive for warhammer fantasy to go, and we should bid a fond farewell to it.
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Why does DEI give every city a small army for garrison?
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>>183963939
Warcraft :^)
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>>183962464
Fuck if that was re-done with "breathe-breathe" instead it would be absolutely perfect
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>>183963761
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>>183963943
I am just no good at video games. I paly on easy, and I still dinf that im getting a surprise buttsecks session whenever i think things are going swiingly

i literally crushed a package of oreos out of fury, and now i have three dollars worth of crushed oreos in a mangaled bag of plastic

i think sometimes i should just stop playing video games forever. Im obviously too autistic and obsessed with not losing once to actually enjoy anything.
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>>183963761
Creative Assembly has announced that it will be retiring focus on all historical titles to purely dedicate itself to the growing Fantasy market

HISTORICFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>183964191
>i literally crushed a package of oreos out of fury
You monster
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>>183964191
Why the fucking oreos doe
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>>183964191
>>183964381
>>183964428
spotted the fatties

btw OREO is halal so you are subsidizing islamic terrorism
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>>183963761
Depends on which fantasy setting
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>>183963938

>>183963939
Fire Emblem, their own IP.
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>>183964496
I wish food didn't taste good
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>>183964496
Go away shitskin, why won't you go and die for your god or something?
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>>183964191

I know this is beyond a worthless sack like you but have you ever considered attempting to learn from your mistakes?

Diplomacy is a fucking cake walk in NORMAL how could you possibly not see a declaration of war coming a mile away on easy.
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>>183964428
>>183964381
It was the only thing near by that wasn't expensive.

Whenever I get a setback in totalwar, like say, one of my armies getting wiped out and the settlement it was garrisoned on gets conquered by an AI in one move, I get unreasonably infuriated because I feel like I was dealt a blow from I won't be able to recover fast enough from before the ai just steamrolls through my nation by luck and bullshit alone.
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>>183964780
Ok, we can still do something about those.

Go out and buy a tub of ice cream and mix the crushed Oreos into eat. Probably don't get a fruit-flavored one.
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>>183963939
Warlords Battlecry
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>>183963761
>>183963939
Lotr would be just inferior Warhammer without tanks, gunpowder so many monsters, diverse armies and even more borning campaign map.
GoT is a meme and hardly have any interesting fantasy stuff to use in Total War series.
Space fantasy like wh40k or Star Wars will never happen.
I doubt companies like Ubisoft or Bethesda would ever allow to make Total War out of TES and M&M.
The Witcher would have only boring human factions.

Age of mythology is the only way. And I would be hyped as fuck for it.
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>>183964780
Man, you suck bad.

Here, try this. In defensive battles, stick your units against a corner, put them in guard mode, make the enemy walk across the map. It's cheap and shit but might help in some cases.
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>>183964946
>>183964780
I dont get this in some games though. Some games I can sort of see why I fucked up and Im more made at my self for not being so cautious.

But in total war, Im waiting patiently, building up my armies for a few turns, I send in a spy to scout out the towns Im going to take, and in one swoop I take two or three towns in one turn. Some times, this works fine. Som etimes, it dont.

then when it doesnt work fine its because somewhere in the fog of war, the ai had a full-stack army waiting around with a high tier general and then that cunt steamrolls through everything.

anmd since he steam rolls through my cities, i loose some industry and agriculture, so i dont even have the resources to build a new army to retaliate with. I just have to bite the fucking pillow and hope the ai goes ful retard at some moment.

>>183964704
I do. I go out of my way to make non aggression packs and make alliances. Then, when im strong enough, i break the non agro and wait a couple of turns then strike.

Im just a big baby is all.

I should read a book or something, instead of this bullshit that im clearly not cut out for.
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>>183965617
Are you new to Total War? Maybe you should try playing some of the Easy factions first.

Also, you can always reload to an earlier turn and try to do something else and see what happens so you can test stuff out and find out what works and what doesn't
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JUST
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>>183963761
I'm a big fantasyfag and all, but I needs me my historical titles
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Think I'm gonna do an Empire campaign as the Italian States aka Papal States. What mods should I have? Is Darthmod overrated?
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>>183966181
Yeah, I save scum a lot.

I have only played Total War for two years at this point I think? And even then, I dont paly it all day erry day.

Rome II is my fav because I like that period of history and it's got naval battles and a lot of factions.

I usually paly Rome or Carthage, so I want to paly more obscure and tiny ones. Now I know why half of the factions in this game get swallowed up before I can even meet them.

Pontus is the one where I crushed my cookies in rage because Galatia managed to take over have of asia minor while I was busy dealing with shit.

Fuck the Galatians.
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>>183966224
No genocide today.
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>>183966431
Since you reload a lot, then you really shouldn't have a reason to rage out like you do. Yes, the more obscure and smaller ones are pretty challenging,
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New player here. I'm not entirely sure how the VC are supposed to work when it comes to skellies and zombies. Are skellies a straight upgrade to zombies? Should I replace all my zombies with skeleton swordsmen? Why would I use zombies instead of skeletons?
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>>183966971

yes, replace zombies with skellies. You'd only take zombies if you needed cannon fodder or if you need to raise some numbers quickly
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>>183966971
Cheaper
But zombies are better at being summoned behind enemy's back
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>>183966971
Zombies are dog shit on purpose. They are just a giant tar-pit for you to stick up their good units with dogshit while you bring the real nasty stuff to bear. You can use them effectively for pretty much all but the late game.
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>people are actually excited about new, upcoming RoR's for factions without them
>mfw

What the actual fuck. Everything about them is fucking stupid. They are basically legit cheats, where you could buy a rank 9 version immediately, without any tech, building and time requirements just by spending a little bit of gold. AI also just fucking spams them nonstop and waters down their roster with the same 5-7 familiar faces, making fights boring and repeating slog.

Not to mention that they are most likely just a lazy reskin.
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>>183967334
whats ROR
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>>183967334
this just continues to prove >>183959771
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>>183967385
Regiments of Renown. The ones with purple borders.
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I've been running SFO custom battles against autogenerated VC as dwarves and have pretty much lost every battle on normal difficulty.

Slayers fucking suck and die just as fast to the monsters they're supposed to kill. Missile units either run out of ammo or are basically unprotectable if they've got several cav and flying units. Plus the AI actually micros them around making it a nightmare for me. Mortis Engine and chariots fucks up everything I throw at it. Eventually I lose the attrition war to regen damage dealers + summoned trash.
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>>183966971
Theoretically zombies and skeletons serve as different tiers of fodder - zombies are there to drag shit down with their massive health pool and allow you to do other stuff. Skeletons serve a similar role, but can actually kill stuff compared to zombies. Unfortunately, this doesn't really work out well in the VC campaign imo - there really is no use for zombies in your armies outside of the first 1 or 2 turns unless you are trying to make raise dead sites
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>>183964780
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>>183967460
no it doesn't you fucking numbskull - the way RoR are now is fucking retarded, and if CA doesn't change it campaigns post-Norsca will feature ai RoR spam out the ass. Have you never fought the dwarfs and their never-ending RoR doomstacks? Not to mention that they make the already low quality mp even worse by giving factions access to special units that have better stats than equivalent units for less cost
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>>183967759
>never-ending RoR doomstacks

I dont think you have ever played this game.
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>>183963761
they'll keep doing it no doubt, if they don't have difficulty in getting the licenses
less frequent historical licenses
probably release Medieval 3 after the Chinese game to calm down nerds for another decade while they can mooch off the LOTR and Witcher and Warcraft franchises
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>>183967334
RoR has useful application for multiplayer. Dwarfs would be even worse in MP without leaning on their RoR. While I think most of /twg/ would agree RoR recruitment could have been handled better, that doesnt mean they should be given to some factions and excluded from others.

It was always lame the DLC factions were relegated to second-tier treatment, and its nice to see them get fancy things as well.

Plus there's cute lore stuff in the names.
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>>183956548
Ranald is with you!
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>>183966431
Everyone declares war on Pontus, making them fun for that feeling of desperation. Sparta, Royal Scithia and Pontus are my top 3 mostly unplayed factions.
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>>183967334
What the actual fuck are you babbling on about? You have to acheive certain levels in order to unlock the RoRs in the first place, you utter retard.
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>>183965617
>But in total war, Im waiting patiently, building up my armies for a few turns, I send in a spy to scout out the towns Im going to take, and in one swoop I take two or three towns in one turn. Some times, this works fine. Som etimes, it dont.
>then when it doesnt work fine its because somewhere in the fog of war, the ai had a full-stack army waiting around with a high tier general and then that cunt steamrolls through everything.
Take it one town at a time, if you try that sneaky shit, your armies will be spread out amongst three cities while his army isn't.

In a lot of games I have one army for actually fighting, they're armed with top(ish) tier troops and artillery and Calvary. Then I have a few armies that I place on frontier provinces to help repel invaders and keep public order high while I wait for them to convert to Hellenic culture.


>I do. I go out of my way to make non aggression packs and make alliances. Then, when im strong enough, i break the non agro and wait a couple of turns then strike.
If the AI doesn't trust you, you will fall to all the other factions declaring war on you at once.

>I should read a book or something, instead of this bullshit that im clearly not cut out for.
Try the Art of War
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V E N G E A N C E

So is the goodies we get on July 30th?
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>>183967236
>bottom right
>spend all that time modding shit and then getting an image and getting nice looking text on it
>misspell "counts" as "coutns"

Why do so many amateur modders and game makers put 0 effort into spelling or spellchecking? I remember playing games back on newgrounds and there were some games that clearly had hundreds of hours of art and gameplay development. And it'd be littered with spelling errors, making it feel shitty.
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>>183969450

No, the 30th is CA's 30th birthday, which is the 18th if I'm not mistaken. We'll likely get it all on the 10th.
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>>183970373
> amateur

and this is why well trusted names like radious are a cut above the rest
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>>183956548
Toasting in a Bread
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>>183968901
I totally forgot about it. But it's not really that big of a deal. You still get your instant high-quality troops without investing too much in them. Wouldn't it be more interesting if they had more conditions and requirements to unlock? Units are ok and add flavour, but their implementation really sucks. Hell, even their flavour text is just a one line added to their wiki page.

While some of them even had a pretty descriptive backstory in tabletop
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sigmar%27s_Sons
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Silver_Bullets
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>>183970373
English probably isn't their first language.
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>tfw using the silver bullets to gun down skin wolves
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garrison buildings should give a public order bonus
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>>183971910
Public order is already easy enough to manage, even on very hard.
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Why is the magic balance so fucked? I'm reasonably new to the game and I'm still trying to figure out which magics are worth using and which ones are completely useless. Like fireball and awakening wood seem to fuck up big blocks of enemies but lots of the other damage spells don't really seem to do anything at all

Do I just stick to buffs/debuffs other than a few good spells?
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>>183972213
More or less. Magic is general is pretty wonky and only a few offensive spells like Purple Sun of Xerus/Foot of Gork/Wind of Death are of any use. Buffs and healing are almost always fantastic though
Magic's getting an overhaul in 2 and with magic powerhouses like slaan/high elves maybe it'll be a bit more balanced
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>>183967884
I don't think you have you fucking moron

Have you ever fought the dwarfs after they win the badlandsbowl? They constantly re-recruit the same units over and over and over thanks to the instant recruitment that RoR have

>>183968079
>RoR has useful application for multiplayer
It varies by faction

the only faction that really needed RoR to compete in mp were the dwarfs - the empire and vampires were top tier even before they got shit like the silver bullets, royal altdorf gryphites, and sternsmen. The greenskins have been mid-tierish but their roster gave them good variety even before ror

My big problem with them in mp is that they are insta-pick units. Almost every single empire army you fight will have the silver bullets and sigmar's sons, and every dwarf army will have the grumbling guard. Some of them need to be bumped up in price to better reflect just how good they are. I mean ffs why would I ever bring a reiksguard if I can get zintler's rg w/ t9 stats, immunity to psychology, and vanguard deployment for ~300gold less than a t9 rg?
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>>183972814
I really don't know how anyone can refute this.
I can't stand those RoR anymore, they were not a bad idea, but they are terribly implemented
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>>183966224
Colchian Nobles keeping this campaign alive
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>>183955962
>SKARSNIK, WARLORD OF EIGHT PEAKS.
>Strigoi ghoul king
>Crooked Moon
>Bretonnia
>Shield Minotaurs
Mad hype for my vermin-appearing beastmen, Norscans and the maybe hopefully soon one day Ogre Kingdoms.

Having said that, I'm really really hoping that we can see a unique zombie coast roster soon, seeing as Luther isn't big on a lot of the other shizzle used by your typical sylvania vampire.
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RoR are a fucking awful mechanic.
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>>183956265
>>183973181
Why the love for Goul Kings?
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>>183972213

> I'm reasonably new to the game

Why the fuck did you buy this game with those steam reviews? I hope you're still in time to refund it.
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>>183973281
Strigoi are just nice guys.
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>>183972213
God Tier
>Healing (lore of life/lore of vampires)

Great Tier
>Net of Amyntok
>Fate of Bjuna/Spirit Leech
>Plague of Rust
>Wind of Death
>Foot of Gork vs cav
>Raise Dead

Good Tier
>AoE buffs/debuffs
>AoE DoT spells (flock of doom, devolve)
>Pit of Shades

Meh Tier
>single target buffs/debuffs
>vortexes
>Magic Missiles
>breath spells
>non-zombie summon spells

Shit tier
>searing doom
>final transmutation
>traitor kin
>Night shroud
>curse of anraheir
>chain lightning
>flame storm

>>183973281
ghoul kings are cool
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>>183972814
>>183972946
So maybe changes like...
>Needing to own certain cities/regions or do certain things to unlock them
>some sort of cooldown on re-recruiting them if they get wiped out
>either making them take time to train and/or making them cost more

That sort of thing?

>>183973327
I love the setting and the game genre and I'm pretty flush with spending money at the moment. Plus I got it on a decent sale.
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>>183965143
>Age of Mythology
My most boon companion. A Dominions Total War would make me wet my pants as well although it's unlikely to ever happen.
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>>183963956
Garth Ennis is a god damn hack.
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>try to expand north and armenia/media atropatene attack from the south
>try to expand south and cimmeria/royal scythia attack from the north

just fuck my shit up

>>183973914
yes those are the kind of changes that are needed. Royal Altdorf Gryphites should require Franz at a really high level and the ability to recruit demis from altdorf for example
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>>183967334
I like the RoR units but hate the system. The current RoR system should be scrapped and replaced with a Dogs of War mercenary system with generic mercenaries every faction can hire for emergency army filler at a high cost. RoR should instead be assigned to cities, and building the building capable of producing their unit type there unlocks the RoR through normal recruitment methods, including needing to encamp and take longer if you're using global recruitment.

They seem to have zero interest in revamping this system though so it'll just be garbage forever.
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>>183972814
Its fair that there are some overperforming autopicks in the RoR roster, but thats a matter of needing to be properly costed. More options overall is a good thing.

A good example I think is something like the Feasters in the Dusk- they are an autopick by no means, but they add something interesting to the roster, and it is thematic for the unit in question.

The shielded gors we see are way undercosted at 750, unfortunately, and look like they'll be an autopick- but hopefully stats aren't final and it'll come out nice.
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I have a coworker. He got Total Warhammer, then got bored of it. But then out came the Norscan trailer. He wants to do a competitive multiplayer campaign when it comes out. He's also a lazy shit at work.

From the roster you've seen, what faction do you think would be best to fuck up norscan scum?
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>>183974540

Beastmen seems a direct counterpick
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>>183955962
Fay Enchantress
Glade Lord
Wood Elves
Greenskins
Wild Riders

Looking forward to Dark Elves
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>>183974161
Wouldn't it be cool if you earned Regiments of Renown by leveling up one of your units? So you get max gold chevrons on a unit of swordsmen, you could then choose to upgrade them into Emperor's Sons or whatever?
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>>183974540
Empire as always against monsters.
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>>183974540
Norscan roster imo seems like it will be weakest vs large amounts of missile fire, however they also have a ton of stuff to deal with heavy missile lines like things with frostbite and elephants to burst through your front line. They won't have any good melee cavalry options, so Brettonia could do well against them - peasant bowmen are a great way to present massed fire for cheap, but peasant main lines would likely get roflstomped by norscans especially w/ the new berserk/rage mechanic they have.

Beastmen also could match up well, but with access to anti large missiles and trolls they could have problems

Warriors of Chaos might do well - shaggoths/kholek counter mammoths, and forsaken would shit on any infantry the norscans could bring. The other monsters like fimir or skinwolves could be problematic, but lore of fire seems to counter those pretty well
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>>183965143
>>183973958
>Age of Mythology total war
Ohh why must you tempt me with these ideas?

So what would you look for in a total war AoM game?
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>>183975010
>They won't have any good melee cavalry options

Their werewolves are their cavalry, just because they don't have a horse doesn't mean they don't play like cav.

Hell they're faster than chaos knights.

Captcha: Charles Mayne
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>>183975010

You literally just take an army of Gor and wreck them on the charge.

I expect Forsaken to be equally effective.
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>>183974641
That would also be a good system. Gives them that extra boost for surviving all the way to max level, or even if you cheese it late game with boosted ranks and training you still need to put in some effort to get them. Maybe give the AI some starting ones to give them an early boost, or lower requirements so you see them sometimes but not an endless supply.

There's honestly quite a few ways to handle it, they just chose the worst. I turned them off completely just because I was sick to death of the AI always filling their army with a mish mash of RoR units every single turn.
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0-4 The once and future git
5-9 comfy vamps
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What Combat re-balance should I use now that SFO is poo poo?
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Prostagma?
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>>183974859
>>183975010
>>183974598
1-3 Beasty Boys
4-6 PRINCE AND EMPEROR
7-9 Chivalry
0 Give up ahead of time or something

Then I'm going to practice and learn the cheesiest strategies because god damn does this guy annoy me.
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>bored at work
>browse the total warhammer forum
>die of aids
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>>183974641
>>183975290
I would love that system. It would encourage people to keep units around and make gameplay more varied I think. It also allows for some organic storytelling, Seeing a small horsemen company become the equivalent of Charlemagne's paladin would be cool as hell, and gets you more invested in the game. Would love it the game gave you customization options if you got to upgrade them.
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>>183975798
if you really want to cheese him as brets, just spam mounted yeomen archers and kite him to death
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>>183975826
use the sub reddit, we should add it to the Op, its a great source of informatiom and curated by some fantastic mods
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>>183975580
What's wrong with vanilla combat?
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>>183975890
REDDITOR SOMEONE GET SECURITY.. SECURITY
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>>183965143
God yes. I want my laser-croc army.

Similarly, Rise of Legends would be cool source material. Seeing what CA could do with sun idols would be dope.

I realise this is just silly speculation but how would one get around the issue that these IPs only have 3 factions?
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>>183975910
Its a little quick for me desu
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>>183975834
Honestly, my dream (Even if it'd never be done ever because the amount of book keeping and balancing necessary would be insane) is that EVERY unit becomes a mini character with a small skill tree. Nothing too fancy, no swordsmen throwing fireballs, but they'd have a branching path between better armor and better weapons, would randomly generate an officer, would have a history of battle and victories, musicians and banners, some room for ancillaries... Okay that's a lot, but you get the gist.

Don't give them skills of an Empire Captain or anything, but enough choices that two rank 9 reiksguards could be a few points different. One could have 5 less melee attack than the other, but in exchange they have vanguard. Or something.

Also every unit gets a name Empire Total War style. "First Swords of Altdorf" for the first swordsman you build in Atdorf, "Fifth Swords of Erengrad" if it's the fifth swordsman unit you build in Erengrad.

Or something.

Also, bring back army traditions and army histories. That was one of the additions I liked about Attila/Rome 2.
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>>183967334
Norsca is gonna get their RoR's through special monster-hunter quests, screencap this.
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>>183975854
Honestly I might. I'm fucking sick of him ranting infowars shit at me while I'm forced to smile and nod because working as a janitor sucks hard enough without triggering the lunatic I have to share a night shift with.

But I probably won't do an all yeoman archer army (unless it becomes truly dire) because horse archer play is kind of boring.
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Really a shame the game doesn't have dismounting.
Would be great to dismount Deathclaw and see him becoming a separated unit
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>>183968057
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>>183976239
I'd mount Deathclaw, if you know what I mean
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Are Polish winged hussars the biggest memes alongside vikangz?
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>>183976229
>infowars
dear lord I am sorry for you Make sure to do your worst french accent at him
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>>183976290
>>183976239


I was never really interested in the empire till I found out that Karl got a griffon. I read into the lore for it too and I was quite interested in it since welves are my favorite faction.

Now I love playing empire.
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>>183975980
Maybe subfactions based around different lords/goids/whatever?

I mean they're already all different enough from each other that it shouldn't bee *too* much of a problem but at least having god worshippers fighting each other would make more sense than some of the stuff we have in the warhammer one

Also AoM has 4 factions (5 if you count the mod that got turned official) so there is that
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>>183976305
*throws a smoke bomb*
*teleports behind you*
ちぇ。。悪く思うないよ、坊主。。。
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>>183976305

That would be knights.
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Didn't Khazrak used to reduce the cost of minotaurs in his army? It's gone...
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>>183956548

Achievement run on who next...
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>>183976548

>tfw pagans near me
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>>183976372
Come to think of it, that would be extra salt considering how much he bitches about euros.
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>>183976592
no, iirc he was movement range and bestigor recruitment cost reduction
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TWO MONTHS LEFT FOR THE GOODIES
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>>183976687

I don't remember those bonuses on him either. and they're not his current bonuses....
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fotosketcher is fun. I have no idea what settings work best.
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>>183976747
it's come to a point where you are basically spamming these images now
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>>183976810
th-that was my first one, senpai
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>>183976810
>complaining about someone sharing screenshots in /twg/

Perhaps you would prefer some history vs fantasy shitposting?
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>>183963761
>2017 Warhammer 2
>2018 Warhammer 3: End Times
>2019 Warhammer: Age of Sigmar
>2020: TW Age of Mythology
>implying need other TW games beyond this point

What we will actually get
>TW3: Chaos is boring edition
>TW Attila Rehashed: Now in China Edition
>TW Sagas: because minicampaigns are so fun right guys? Please pay $60
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>>183977001
What made you so negative!?
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>>183977087
The downhill charge from M2 to our anuses and wallets accumulating in R2 and lets be honest a lackluster Attila.
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>>183977001

>2021 Shithammer:Shit
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>>183977001
>2019 Total War Warhammer 40,000
Fixed that for you.
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>War Mammoths have almost 14k health and 70 armor

Holy fug, literally going to roll right over the AI with these
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>>183977314

>30 melee attack
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>>183977287
I honestly think a 40k game could work in TW as long as they had a basic cover system. But I doubt they would do it since that would require doing something new and interesting.

>>183977412
AoE hits in a huge hitbox.
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>>183977412
How much does that matter when using big AOE attacks against infantry?

I'm not sure how the attack system works with monsters
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>>183977550
Not him but if a AoE attack goes off and hits 10 models, not every model will take damage. More will take damage based on higher attack rating. But you still knock everyone around.
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>>183977517
>>183977550

the game still calculates stats during aoe attacks

So on top of aoe attacks being capped at 8 models those models have to go through attack rating calculations
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>>183977412
>80 charge bonus
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>>183976810
I was the other fotosketcher spammer. Deal with it
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>>183975059
Bonuses from worshiping certain gods like access to new tech, items, and units. Maybe a favor system where you can get them normally but also get more stuff by doing quests from gods. "myth" units could also be recruited normally, not just by getting favor because I think it should be a thing that monsters exist normally in that world. Of course the more crazy ones you get from favor. Heroes and RoR would get new cosmetics as they devote themselves to different gods as well as different skills.
Would also love to see stuff like the Myth units integrating into their society like Minotaur Legionaries, Cyclops siege engineers, and Mounted War Hydras.
>>183975980
>Rise of Legends
Nice, I still play that from time to time. Pretty much this >>183976489 Although I know that in RoL there are some races they planned on including that never got released like a mongul type faction and the barbarians you see as minor factions. You could also include some of the "creep" races as well. Dark Alin, Rogue Clockwork units, the Condottieri (who could be expanded as non Alin who still embrace magic) and the Fallen.
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>>183965143
>HoM&M.
It still hurts
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>>183977714

>Charge defence against large
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>>183977698
>>183977675

So mammoths will still cause disruption but have a low chance of dealing actual damage to high Defense units.

Seems fair
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>>183939731

>Total War: Portugal

If we wanted a failed colonial empire we'd go to Spain.
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>>183977412

>+30 bonus vs infantry

Literally 60 melee attack against infantry.
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>>183977829
>implying I won't be sending my marauders into your little civilized spears first
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>>183977857
In the gameplay footage they obliterated everything that got close, even high defense units.

But Norsca is almost entirely a large unit race, its going to be pretty god damn easy to counter them as long as you take anti large. And stuff like arty will never miss.
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>>183977857

It has an enormous, +30 bonus vs infantry, literally doubling it's melee attack against infantry. It will absolutely cream any infantry you throw it at, it's just not great against cav and monsters.
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>>183972213
>awakening wood
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>>183976229
Jeez the more I hear about this guy the worst he sounds.
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For the Kharazan Core!
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>>183977857

Honestly, I hate it, if it were up to me I would make magic casters and monster units expensive as fuck and capped at 1 per army, but make their effectiveness actually match their visual representation.

I sick and tired of the fucking pit of shades killing 2 models when it looks like the apocalypse, or a giant swinging his massive clup killing 4 models when it hit 40.
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>>183977987
not to mention that when charging in vs inf it wil lget the +80cb as well, so you will be hitting whatever the melee attack cap is w/ ~140 melee attack when charging in, and on the charge it will be hitting w/ over 600ws
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>>183977912
>>183977987

>Demigryph knights (halberd)
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How exactly do beastmen warheards sustain themselves? If a warherd is composed of at least a few thousand individuals, thats thousands upon thousands of roided 300 lb monsters who refuse to eat anything but meat. And thats not taking into account minotaurs, warhounds, etc. The amount of food and water a single gorgon would need to consume every day would be absurd. Do they have organized supply trains and well tended meat farms? Or do they forget to take these things into account before the warherd becomes a mentally challenged disorganized cannibalistic mess after a few hours?
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>>183977912
Sounds like the perfect opportunity to go full Rohan.
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>this is the 3rd enemy stack to attack my capital in 3 turns
>despite me fending off the invaders and releasing the captives none of the factions at war w/ me want peace
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>>183978091
>literally any artillery: dead mammoth soup
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>>183978152

>How exactly do beastmen warheards sustain themselves?

Through overpriced DLC payments.
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>>183978152
>logistics
>GW

You're a funny guy.
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>>183977130
Well here's my two cents - though some may dismiss it as stupid I think Warhammer trilogy is a great way for them to test out their combined map, and then use the system for history.

Hist 1: China/Far east including Japan
HIST 2: Medieval 3

Now both games could be on the same e engine and CA could do a combined map historical game with china/medieval III.
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So what will the mammoth's counters be
>cav w/ bonus vs large (especially flying cavalry)
>dragon ogres/shaggoths
>massed missile fire
>artillery fire (cannons especially)
>giants
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>>183977857
>>183978017
Honestly at this point they need to introduce a fall damage mechanic or something.
>>183978152
Honestly the latter. In the Malus Darkblade series when a tribe is undergoing civil war, after the battle they start butchering the dead so they can eat them later.
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>>183978303
Literally anything anti large, you know, like all monsters.
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>>183978303
Carnosaur was designed to eat monsters alive in the Tabletop, I imagine that ability transferred over to the game
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>>183977741
not trying to be a dick but these don't look good at all. Check your settings anon. It just looks like someone slapped some shitty phone anyone can make art filter on it. Like someone took a canvas texture and just changed the opacity and slapped it on top of the pic. Apply yourself, nigga.
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>>183978247
The big question is should the settings be realistic romanticized?
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>>183978303

Honestly most cav would trade cost effectively.
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>>183978478
China has to be romanticized or it will be a Rome 2

Historical China is the most boring period of human warfare
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>>183978535

What do you mean by this?
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>>183978478
Realistic. Like realistic with Timur Cannon elephants Realistic.
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>>183978535

>China has to be romanticized or it will be banned by the Chinese government, thus defeating the entire point of making it
FTFY
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>>183978587
China has a more boring, limited roster than even Japan. They have to make stuff up and use unconventional weapons that no one actually used to make it interesting.
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>>183978661
I dont think CA will bother even trying to sell it to China, they have their own TW games and the Chinese government will ban it the moment they do something historical.

They should just do Renaissance
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What building do I need to unlock heroes for the wood elves?
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Today?
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>>183978718
>Chinese government will ban it

Don't see why they would. Unless its set during the time of Mao or something it'd be fine.
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>>183978446
Try this one
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>>183978862
Today? Spellsinger lord?
I wish too anon, I wish too.
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>>183978861
there is a button for that in the game. it shows building trees and which building enables what unit.
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>>183978865
They ban Western games for not romanticizing Chinese history. They would literally ban TW China on the spot if it was historically accurate.
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>>183978865

The Chinese government censors every depiction of Chinese history, however ancient, that isn't completely sanitized and shows the Chinese in the best possible light.

Even merely being able to play as the enemies of China and conquer it would likely be too much for them.
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>>183978862
Any big tiddy remodels for any of the grills yet
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I wanna toot a Chaos Mammoths snoot!
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>>183978303
Halberd demis
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>>183978303
19 dawi cannons
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>>183979439

>19 cannons are needed for a single mammoth

k-khazoo!
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>>183979695
he never said a single mammoth
also
>questioning more firepower
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>>183979695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-sgw9bPV4A
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its time

reddit rats versus reddit reptiles?
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>>183979981
Fuck that noise.

I want my free for all War.
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>>183978862
There has to be a larger size of this somewhere right? It would make a great wallpaper.
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Last week I was playing Warhammer and tonight I'm reinstalling Shogun 2. I like both the historical and fantasy games and see the merits in both of them.
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>>183980159
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>>183980159

> I like both the historical and fantasy games and see the merits in both of them.
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>>183980159
Fag
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>>183980175
>>183980235
>>183980249
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>>183980159
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>>183980369
Liking all the Total War games on /twg/ is bait. Good comment friendo
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>>183978478
If China is romanticized the Hisfags will firebomb CA HQ
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Reminder that Malekith is rightful phoenix king and dark elves actually did nothing wrong (literally dindu nuffin)
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>>183980478
They didn't, but they sure started the moment they left Ulthuan.

>"We've been exiled! Time to indulge in every sin imaginable to show those High Elves how wrong they were about us."
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I think im addicted to STUFF
I need it everyday
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Kislev in Radious mod is very well done.
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It is now July, a musty air blows through the Reikwald but the Warherds have been driven away. From the mighty Ulricsberg, the Ar-Ulric bears a prophecy from the white wolf for the Graf: it is time for the final battle with Chaos. The Midden Marshals scour the land for cultists, while the Knights of the White Wolf slaughter mutants and beastmen mercilessly. Meanwhile the Graf seeks out his arch-nemesis, the one eye, in hopes that their long conflict might at last come to a close. A great army of Huntsmen and Teutogen Guard is being assembled to wipe out the forces of the ruinous powers once and for all. Middenland soon!
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This rock motherfucker is literally a flying monster executioner who exists solely to destroy anything bigger than a horse with ruthless efficiency.

I can't wait to get KANGS just to tear Karl and Deathclaw apart like paper mache
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Am I playing the Wood Elves wrong? Oak of the Ages is still bottom tier and I only have 3 outposts by turn 49. Should I be conquering southern princes and minor bretonnian kingdoms?
>>
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Nobody gives
A shit about you
Come down to arbys
Shoot some black tar
Cry for yr dead dreams
die in your car
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>>183940728
Is Durthu stronger than Kholek?
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>>183981112

Not quite as strong in straight up combat, but the fact that he's a wizard with a decent lore puts him over Kholek.
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>>183981019
Wood Elves have a rough start. You can't really tango with the Fay Enchantress easily in the early game.

I recommend taking the Southern Grey Mountains first and making peace with the Bretonnians. They'll warm up to you after a bit, and they're too puss to actually risk an invasion of Athel Loren.

Skarsnik seriously has no answer for you in the earlier parts of the game so expect to shit on Goblin armies with ease. With luck the Dwarfs will be weak/distracted thanks to Skarsnik and you can out them easily as well.

From there you can go anywhere, but I'd avoid sharing a border with Tilea as they always get insanely powerful in my games and bully me since they have nothing else to do.
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>>183940728
What kind of items does he have?
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>>183981019
If you're playing as Orion, go to Badlands and rize everything while getting an alliance with the Bretonnia

If you're playing as Durthu, go to Norsca and rize everything while getting an alliance with the Bretonnia

Razing will give you immense amounts of money and will enable you to develop your province. You NEED to get an Alliance with Bretonia and this will enable you to get the Oak lvl 3. After lvl 3 you can confederate with other Elves.
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>>183981285

Only one on the tabletop, a crown that lets him boost the leadership of all monsters near him.

They said on the stream that his regeneration is about double the rate of other regenerating units to represent his special regeneration rule from the tabletop.
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>>183981251
As a side note I can't fucking wait for Skavenblight to be added in so Tilea has something to keep them occupied
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>>183981368
>>183981251
Great answers, thanks alot guys
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How do you get the Fay Enchantress campaign off the ground? Orion did an absolute number on my army because he just refused to break.

After finally getting rid of him the remnants of his army retreat to their settlement which has 9 garrison units. My fucked up army can't deal with that immediately and then the Enchantress gets assassinated on top of it all.
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>>183980664
I should play a campaign with radious and post it here.
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>>183981441
>a crown that lets him boost the leadership of all monsters near him.

Oh boy full troll armies memes incoming

tfw the crown give +50 leadership to trolls
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>>183955962
Skarsnik!
WARBOSS INNIT
Crooked moon
Stunties
NIGHT G O B L I N S
expecting Ogres
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>>183981860

If Throgg is to Trolls like Skarsnik is to goblins then shit's going to be crazy.
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>>183981695
>attacking the elves that early
Don't. Go crusade on greenshits or Norsca or something, leave the Elves alone until you can just throw armies at them.
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>>183981860
We need a drawfag to make a Throgg version of that image
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>>183955962
Durthu
Gorebull
Greenskins
Empire
Knights of the Blazing Sun
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>>183982064
>Out fucking Throgged
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>>183981019
I've completed my SFO wood elves campaign while only having Athel Loren and Silver mountains occupied. Orion has really good bonuses from razing/looting. So just try to kill enemies of Empire/Bretonnia/Angrund and make an alliance with them. You should sustain very well on just fighting alone. Invest into shrine that let's you trade with non-wood elves factions early, so you can make mad dosh from trade agreements.

I'm not saying it's an optimal way to play, but i find it much more interesting than just paining map green.
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>>183981860

The meme armies in campaign are gonna be the tippy-top.

>As the King of the Trolls, Throgg brings reduced upkeep to Troll and Ice Troll units, and units in Throgg’s army are immune to all forms of attrition. He also grants a Physical Resistance buff to all Troll and Ice Troll units factionwide.
>If Throgg captures the settlement of Eringrad in Troll Country, he may build a unique building there – the Cave of the Rocky Throne – which grants buffs to Troll units factionwide.
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>>183940728
I doubt it, his armor is not that special, and it maters a lot in 1 on 1 fights.
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I'm doing my first VH campaign: Isabella.
I've been struggling all early game with money, trying to bully mannfred into confederating but failing, too busy dealing with rebellions and fucking up the empire and dwarves.
First chaos invasion comes and they kill all mortals, yet they're neutral to me. Finally I manage to upgrade Vlad's stack to grave guards in time for Archaon's coming, then I take on Archaon, Kholek and Sarthorael's army with just Vlad army and Isabella's harem and the chaos invasion is over.
A bit anticlimactic if you ask me.
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>>183982381
cool blog
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>>183982381
Did you give Isabella a Hero Harem?
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>>183982512
I was surprised a stack of grave guards and some heroes were enough for 3 chaos armies.
>>183982672
I had 7 vampires I think. They've become a bit ridiculous by accruing enemies' leadership's maluses. They're at -33 ld now.
Also the rod that give -30 cd reduction in an aoe is nosense.
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>>183956062
>not reddit reptiles
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>>183981946
I would just love to do that but the Enchantress starts out at war with Orion.
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How do you think Skaven weapon teams will be implemented? Are they going to be separate units or will we be able to merge them with Clanrats?
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>>183982895
Peace treaty. Hell, even during war it'll take him many turns to actually get out of his forest basement and do something.
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>>183956062
>>183956116
>>183982868
all factions are reddit except for the good ones
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STUFF IS HERE!!!
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There's no stuff.

Today isn't the day.
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>>183983513
We had that stuff yesterday. They just made the 30 less ambiguous by specifying that it is CA's 30th anniversary, so people didn't assume it meant July 30th.
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>>183958693
That is so true my fellow understander.."braaap" mmmm-hmmm that smells good...mmm-mmm..
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>close victory

I don't understand how the game calculates this shit.

>>183983080

They'll be like Irondrake, most likely.
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>>183983080

Seperate units, I imagine.
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>>183983628

Not him but awk balls, I was hoping it was something for the 30th. REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183984050
>Radious
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>>183976685
Why does he bitch about Euro's?
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Old friend.
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>>183956727
Modded state troops?
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>>183984387
Yes, and?
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>>183984387
good catch :^)
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>>183984387

>waited a whole year for Krell
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>>183984387

>Phoneposters
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>>183984472
>>183984501
>>183984612
>>183984642

Guess I'm late to the party, just like an Old Friend
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>>183978152
A normal warherd is somewhere between a few dozen and a few hundred individual (Gors, Ungors, Dogs, maybe some Tuskgors/Razorgors), who live and hunt nomadically.

Minotaurs don't travel with the herd; they are the protectors of the herdstones and don't usually leave them outside when the beastmen aren't going to war. They are sustained by offerings by passing warherds.

Brayherds (the actual armies) only come together for a certain battle or a short campaign at most.

The gathering of the brayherd actually has some pretty cool lore.
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>>183984387
30th is probably their 30 year anniversary on the 18th of august.
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>>183985067
You think so, Sherlock?
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Guys which Clan should I pick in Shogun 2 I was thinking Takeda
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>>183985165
Date and pummel everyone into submission with your overcompensation implements.
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>>183985165

Otomo. Spread the glory of God to those fucking heathen savages.
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>>183985434
Good taste anon, that's exactly what I'm going to play.
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>>183985148
If there are people in this thread who don't know that the Southlands are part of TWWH2, then there are probably people who don't know about the anniversary.
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>>183985503
It's a freaking birthday cake with CA's logo and "30th" written under it.
I think they'll manage.
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>>183981931
It would be disappointing if he wasnt
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>>183985563
Are we getting a cake unit on 30th of July? Holy shit, confirmed.
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>>183982192
Throgg should have an unique mechanic which allows him to recruit local trolls of the current place he is at

But that also requires more troll variants
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>>183985434
A thousand times this, Otomo best clan
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>>183985434
>>183985661
Kirishitans OUT
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>>183985434
>>183985661

>Falling for the Semitic religion meme

lmoa
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>>183985563
These same people thought the aztec temples and forest was the China TW announcement

The TW community wouldn't have a functioning brain if you merged everyones brain cells together.
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>>183985857
Why bother
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>>183985776
LE EPIC VIKANGZ and ODIN ARE SO BADASS, KILL OR BE KILLED, survival of the FITTEST christfag

wtf EVIL CHRISTIANS PERSECUTED US, WE WERE PEACEFUL N SHIIEET

>>183985825
I thought /twg/ had one of the highest IQs out of all the vg generals?
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>>183985702
>>183985776
>Tfw you sink multiple Jap navy with 2-4 ships
>Tfw you route a huge samurai army with your guns, and cut them all down
>Tfw euros make you the best clan on Japan, and let you meme on all those other slinty eyed faggots
LMAO
M
A
O
Back to your rice fields you fucking gooks, guns are GOAT
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>>183964191
I am total opoosite of you. I consider myself medium/good player and I can't enjoy games on easy. I would rather get hardly raped than play the game that would be too easy and boring. Sometiems friends dont want to play with me because they say I am game masochist.
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>>183985857
>>183985918

I see the /v/ermin have come to visit.

How are things?
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>>183985918
>I thought /twg/ had one of the highest IQs out of all the vg generals?
/twg/ isnt the whole TW community, in fact we are a tiny tiny part of it
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>>183985918
Calm down with the ALLCAPS
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>>183985702
*raises hand*

heh......

*smirks at you*

*swings hand down*

*1000000 gunners all shoot you at once*
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>Shogun 2
>No borderless Windowed

grrrrr
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>>183986070
Not bad.. heh.. not bad

But you see.....

they were merely holograms.. heh...
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>>183986112
This tbqh
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>>183985973
>I see Reddit has come to visit
Things that you don't like or agree with aren't always your boogyman you fucking thick cunt, fuck off and kys
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>>183966224
how?
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>>183985918
God, I had a bunch of "neo-pagans" in highschool, who constantly sprouted bullshit like this unironically.
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>>183986193
>defending an actual shitpost

What is wrong with you?
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Doing a "challenge"/"theme" run.

Play VC (manfred).
Can only use LL's (+1 troop ferry)
Wait for Vlad to hire Isabella, then confed.
Ghorst and Kemmler can only use raise dead units.
All armies for Vampires have to be themed--IE Red Duke needs Blood Knights.

Any other challenge/theme run ideas?
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>>183986239
>Defending pagan shitposting
Neck yourself you faggot
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>>183986239
>getting bent out of shape because people are shooting the shit on a slow thread
I could ask you the same question, friend.
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HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.

I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.
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>>183986348
Last warning bud
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I'm so hype for Skaven I reinstalled Vermintide.
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>>183986348
Nice pasta
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>>183974091
colchis truly is hard mode beacuse your culture is pissing everyone around you.
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Has anyone played an empire campaign without chaos?
How is it, dull and shit? Or actually fun and alike a regular TW game?
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>>183986259
What I did:
Marienburg run:
-play as Marienburg (duh)
-no LL (ditch Gelt somewhere to croak)
-no Reiksguard
-no Demigryphs
-max of one Greatsword per army

Lorefriendly beasts:
-every army must have exactly 1 shaman
-max of two minotaurs per army
-number of Bestigors might not exceed the combined number of Gor and Ungor units (raiders don't count)

Dwarfs:
-max two heroes per army
-number of Longbeard units may not exceed the number of Warrior units
-number of skirmishers may not exceed the the number of warrior units
-max one unit of Hammerers per army (except for Thorgrimm)


I also modify these for certain armies.
For example: a traditionalist Dwarflord can ignore the limitation on Longbeards, but doesn't get to use blackpowder or gyrocopters.
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>>183986763
>without chaos
What?
>>
Lore question: is being a slayer shameful? Would slayers be treated like shit by other dwarves? Would a dwarf ever think a slayer is cool or be proud of him while he's alive?
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>>183986814
A mod to remove or delay all the chaos stacks
See I feel it'd let me play empire like a proper TW faction rather than luck of the draw railroaded shit, but then I'm worried it would end up killing the challenge of the playthrough
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>>183955962
>LL
Belagar Ironhammer
>type of non-Legendary Lord
Orc Warboss
>Faction
Empire
>Faction to play against
Greenskins
>unit
Demigryphs

Skavens
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>>183986824
Yes and no.

Being a Slayer is like apologizing. Yes, something shameful happened, but you're doing the right thing (as opposed to not becomming a Slayer)

>>183986801
Nice, I prefer building "weaker" armies that fit lore and then making it work. My Bretonnia games are 6 cav max
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>>183986824
Any shame you've brought on yourself is wiped away by the slayeroath and consequent death.

Other Dwarfs treat slayers with a certain amount of unease, since they are already considered dead after taking the oath.

There might be some pride in them having done the right thing in doing so.
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>>183986824

It's an oath you take when you suffer something shameful. Dwarfs see slayers as cool I think, or at least other slayers see other death seekers as cool.
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>>183986914
>>183986914
>Nice, I prefer building "weaker" armies that fit lore and then making it work. My Bretonnia games are 6 cav max
Honestly that seems a bit too low.
I mean Brettonian knights are collosal wankers, but they do care about protecting the populace.
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>>183986875
What a shitty idea for a mod. Chaos should be buffed, not removed.
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>>183987020
Buffed and made to not retardedly train the player faction
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>>183987020
Make them later then, having then mid game makes every empire campaign the same till mid way
It's fucking shit, it's railroading and kills any replay value for that faction
Buff them by all means, but make them a proper faction that doesn't show up basically less than half way through a playthrough, it's shit
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>>183986984
Seems to me that even in Bretonnia cav is not going to make up more than MAYBE 50% of a force.

So 6+maybe hippos+lord, etc rounds out the army nicely I think.
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>>183987102
>retardedly train the player faction
Nothing wrong with that. I don't want to miss all the fun while they are going somewhere else.
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>>183986259
Only LLs and Ek.
>chaos chosen for archon
>dragon ogres for suneater
>no idea for shitvald the useless.
>charriots for Ek. Get mod to make him LL who has a chariot.
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>>183987138
Not sure if previously lore was different, but usually Brettonian armies are described as mostly knights with some peasants standing around the trebuchets.
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>>183987257
Done that

Archon is solid chaos army, chosen/knights.
suneater is only dragon ogres
sigvald is monsters/forsaken/etc

>>183987274
Most of my lore comes from WHFRP where I played a Bretonnian knight for a year+ game.

So my understanding is that TW "breaks lore" (in scare quotes cuz I don't care much) because being able to field 60x19 grail knights is just plain wrong.

Knights of the Realm/Errant should be common, but anything passed that is rare.
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>>183956548
Rollerino please no chaoserino
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>>183987418
Is siggy going full monster a fluffy thing?
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>>183987625
Alright I'll see you fellas later I need to rape murder and pillage
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Could someone give me some basic tips for setting up my Otomo gunners? I'm having trouble setting up all my guys in a non awkward spot. Will it work if I just make a straight line of gunners and then go back behind my Yari when the enemy gets close?

I'm using 6 gunners right now, super early in.
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>>183965617
Build. Walls.

Not that hard bud.
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>>183987778
Place 4 of your gunners in the flanks, 2 on each side

Use two gunners in the front and then retreat when the enemy is near, don't do it if they have cavalry
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>>183987835
I was doing this with 3 on each side, but this will probably work better. Thanks friendo.

It's best to have them spread out so there's 2 rows of gunners, correct?
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>>183987418
>Most of my lore comes from WHFRP where I played a Bretonnian knight for a year+ game.
>So my understanding is that TW "breaks lore" (in scare quotes cuz I don't care much) because being able to field 60x19 grail knights is just plain wrong.
>Knights of the Realm/Errant should be common, but anything passed that is rare.
That's why I'm planning on doing something like this:
-cant have more more questing knights than Knights of the realm
-cant have more Grail Knights/Guardians than Questing Knights
-max 2 pegasus knights per army
-max 1 royal knight per army (except for Louen)
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>>183987718
show 'em da power of da one true git!
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>>183987778
As a massive lover of guns and Otomo in S2 I'd say phase a few out for bows, bows behind your curved yari line, a then the gunners on flanks, skirmishers all run behind, bows fire over at their skirmishers, your gunners loop round and fire into their melees flank which will annihilate their morale and drop their heavy armoured guys no problem
Sieges guns are great for destroying morale of units before they've scaled the wall, ready to be routed straight after, and can be then brought back for vollies of units that make it up
Basically don't replace bows with them, but use them as morale breakers and heavier infantry killers
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>>183987626
Nah, he hates ugly things.
He runs around with a bunch of guys with mirrored shields, so he an constantly see his own reflection.
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>>183987626
No, but I had no other idea so.
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>>183956548

Brets pl0x
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>>183987924
That sounds right.

It's Errant--Realm--Questing--Grail, iirc.

So I usually do 2-2-1-1.
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>>183956548
>>183988197

Got no miniatures
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>>183988120
I was going for full on chosen no horses no marauders no monsters.
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>>183988284
My lore-splanation was that Sigvald found all sorts of weird shit pretty/excessive, so he had the monsters.

That and Archeon was my chosen army so.

But too bad that didn't save the shitty chaos campaign. Whoever thought horde attrition for them was a good idea should be slapped.
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>>183963761
I think Warhammer fantasy is enough. Any other fantasy are Warcraft or Game of Throne tier ,except Mahabharata. That mite be fun.
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>>183988202
Yes, but I feel Errants shouldn't be a necessity, since Knights of the Realm should really be core of a Brettonian army..

A Bretonnion knight will spent a few years as a Knight Errant, then spent most of his life as a Knight of the Realm, unless he chooses to quest for the Grail.
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>>183988459
Why is horde attrition bAd other than lightning strike rush?
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War Hydra video is up and a update to the ritual site.
>>
Just playing co-op campaign with my bro. When is Everchosen will spawn? It's been 120 turns already.
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>>183978902
Spellweaver desu
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>>183988637
Ritual answer is warpstone.

Ritual prize is underwhelming.
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>>183988568
Yeah, and errant knights are supposed to be running around solo doing quests, like questing knights.

Realm should be the biggest force, for sure.

>>183988621
It's janky, annoying, and one of the few lore breaking things I actually take issue with.

Archeon's forces shouldn't be squabbling like other chaos forces. That's kinda what makes him so dangerous.
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>>183988637
It would have been perfect if that last elf got ripped in 5 parts
I hope its in the game
>>
once I unite bretonnia do I get some sort of prompt to expand either into the badlands or to the chaos wastes?
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>>183988621
Not that guy but It's just annoying while not adding anything. I get that the idea is to make you spread out your hordes but the problem is with how the AI work in cluster fucking you or holding up in fully walled settlements. And with no ability to hide like the Beastmen it's impossible to not have to use mutiple stacks near each other for safety. Unless you want to go around getting chased by enemy stacks.

tl;dr it really doesn't add anything interesting and is rather pointless. Aka the Chaos campaign in a nut shell.
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>>183988731
>13 eyes
Bravo CA
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>>183987924
Thats the thing
If we follow the lore Grail Knights are really fucking rare

Like, there is a party and celebrations if one decides to show up at your campaign since one GK is already a 100+ man killer and they just are nearly invincible

Since you cant have that kind of shit in game I would suggest a 12 man unit of GK with jacked up stats and buffs and aoe charge like monster charges

Since we cant change campaign mechanics I would suggest making them crazy expensive

Ofc, if you want to make lore friendly grail knights

ironically TT gk are not that godlike
>>
How is the scale of the WH2 and combined campaign map going to work?

The area of WH2 spans 4 continents and is 4 to 5 times as big as the old world. Are they really going to make such a big map? I remember them saying something about the WH2 map being 30% bigger than the old world but that doesn't amount to a 1:1 scale at all. Will the combined map scale down the old world?
>>
>>183988741
I hope thats the case if you have B&G

I mean that enables head/limb dismemberment so it should be the case.
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>>183988907
Just play steel faith, it literally does just that.
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>>183988502
Elder scrolls is interesting high fantasy though
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>>183988731
Thank you!

But yeah I was actually kind of hoping for some more art.

Still only 3 more to god and hopefully this meme will die.
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>>183988907
those were the kind of changes SFO did before they started going full unit bloat
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>that elf waifu being HYDRED

jesus
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>all these promotions featuring high elfs getting btfo

I hope CA sticks with it
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>>183989004

So I guess the Hydra has synch kills for single enemy combatants?
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>>183989004

>That animation where one beat is pulling the legs and one is pulling each arm

I hope there's a version of that with the blood DLC where the arms come off.
>>
>>183988637

The hydra is so sexy goddamn.
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>>183963994
At least, Total war immortalised dying warhammer fantasy.
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>>183988907
>ironically TT gk are not that godlike
Symptome of being 15 years behind on the power creep :).
Agreed though; they should be somewhere around demigryphs in terms of power, maybe with something along the lines of terror and inspiring friendly troops.
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>>183988731
the flavor text for the video is from the last passage of the Doom of Kavzar

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Skaven#The_Doom_of_Kavzar
>>
late(ish) STUFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_mpfuUn68
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Hydra video link for them as is too lazy to look it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_mpfuUn68
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>>183951443
>>183980675
what sort of dumb meme is this
>>
Jesus christ CA stop bullying high elfs
You better give us the best fucking trailer for them.or I will call racism
>>
>>183989004
>CA panders to the fetish crowd
>makes billions
>>
>>183989278
>stop bullying high elfs
Never.
>>
>>183989278

High elfs were made to job.
>>
>>183989202
>be virtuous grail knight of brettonia
>live your whole life with the utmost honor and chivalry, trying to earn the lady's favor
>eventually get the chance to sip from the grail after spending years questing and fighting the legendary green knight
>get btfo by some cowfucking averlander riding a chicken-cat
>>
>>183989238
>>183989246
Holy shit what a horrible death.
>>
>>183988990
it's boring shit, tb h. Nothing interesting.
You have lizardmen, some vikangs, some aylmaos, and human. that's it.

imo, Warhammer Fantasy is the perfect fantasy for me. It has great aesthetic and interesting or intricate lore to know. Although it was saved by total war, nobody really maintains or updates it anymore.
>>
>>183988921
I get the feeling with that and by cutting off a lot of the New World off along all those mountain ranges. But also they have said they'll be having to cut some of the existing map (game 2s) but the Old world will be the same size.

So from the sound of it the combined map might be more vertically squashed but all they'll be doing is cutting a little off the bottoms of the Southlands/Lustria.
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>>183989278

To be fair, High Elves have now had the most screen time at least. :^)
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>>183961298
>I don't know what that is
Look at this faggot trying so hard to fit in that he pretends he's never even heard of Reddit.
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>>183989373
It was a fast one.
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>>183989246
Why don't they they show it in game instead?
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>>183989202
Imao they should be Blood Knigt/dragon equivalent, especially with the bro relation between Gilles and Abhorash
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>>183986348
>I would stomp you with my hands
N-Nani?! H-He's fast!
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>>183989238
>>183989246

>the Hydra heads grab the elf all at once and fight over tearing it apart before one of the heads snaps it up
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>>183989394
>Skyrim-babby
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I can masturbate to this desu.
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>>183989394
Not him but you should kill yourself nigger, TES is based in Indian religion and is much less generic than the likes of warhammer
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>>183989574
>>183989556
>>183989110
>>183988741

CA has made a terrible mistake.
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>>183989574
>T shape
TOMB KINGS CONFIRMED.
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>>183989563
actually, oblivionfag.
>>183989641
Yeah, but it is still boring for me
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>>183989641
>is much less generic than the likes of warhammer
To the three people who actually read the lore maybe.
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>>183989732
Even if you look at the base shit like aesthetics, Dunmer design is far more interesting than most any other design of dark elf I see in fantasy
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>>183989886
>elf
both are shit. and I fucking hate elf
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>>183989886
I think TES lore is interesting, it's certainly better written and more creative than WH, but WH is more exciting since it's all about constant war and genocide. Total War: TES would suck ass, because that's not the kind of setting it is. There are battles, but most of them serve a point in the more ordered and purposeful overall setting, whereas Warhammer is all random battles here and there.
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>>183989886
That's why Morrowind will forever be my favourite game of the series, but guess what?
Today's average Skyrim player doesn't care about the lore. Hardly any Oblivion players cared about the lore.

Warhammer might be more generic western fantasy, but it presents itself much beteer iand is far more accesible to the masses.
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>chaos long campaign
HORSE'D
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>>183989641
>Everything is Elves
>Even the dwarves
>shitty Bethesda games
Holy shit pal.
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>>183989278
They're Empire 2.0

Like the Empire they'll be the most OP faction

They already have the best ranged units, the best cavalry, the best generic cookie cutter units and Phoenix Guard

The only thing they lack are artillery but so will the other races and I don't think most of the Skaven contraptions will make it into the game
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>>183990102
Funny thing is that in TES lore there's a semi-divine time-travelling organic robot whose entire purpose is to kill elves, because elves overall represent stasis and a refusal to move forward towards the spiritual mending of the setting's conflicted oversoul, a conflict which all layers of the setting's existence mirror in some way or the other.
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>>183989574
>>183989246
>>183989238
>yfw you nomnom a hot elven princess
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>>183990104
>I think TES lore is interesting,
I guess there has to be one person who feels this way
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>>183990189
>I don't think most of the Skaven contraptions will make it into the game

They fucking better. Crazy war machines and technology is one of the major things that makes Skaven so good.
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>>183990283
Yeah, if they don't have warplightning cannons, jezzails, doombell, and maybe 1-2 others they're doing it wrong.
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At the end of the Hydra video, there is warpstone at the bottom left.

This plus the ritual means Skaven must be for August I'm guessing.
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>>183990104
>>183990135
My response was to someone saying that Warhammer was more intricate in its lore than TES, which is retarded
I never said anything on if TES was a better or worse setting for a total war
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>>183990371
Pretty sure we'll get warplightning cannons, jezzails (should be the longest range infantry in the game no?) Doomwheel, bell and globadiers for the basics.
I'm wondering whether they'll implement ratling gunners. There was some equivalent in Shoguns fall of the samurai wasn't there, was it good?
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>>183990373

Probably, but until Norsca has been out for a while, I think
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>>183990560
Gatling guns in shogun were pretty sick if you could give them a nice killzone, yeah.

Doomwheels are on the bottom of my list for things skaven will probably get.

I would guess they'd get another arty unit over a cav unit.

Skaven roster speculations?
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>>183990373
Well they're the only faction left

All we miss is skaven + high elves trailer (which probably contains skaven)

Then september it'll be campaign gameplay and hyping the whole game
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>>183990560
Is do jezzails as 200 range with a small unit count but high damage so they act more as snipers rather than better hand gunner.
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>>183990515
Well, there's certainly a whole lot more lore for WH. I mean, good luck ever learning all there is about the Empire's history.
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Neuvo thread

>>183990640
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>>183990703
>200 range infantry
>implying they will be better than bows

More like 160 range, has the same unit count as Trollhammer Torpedoes, normal firing rate but fast
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>>183990240
>yfw you're the head that nom'd that booty
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>>183990731
>page 2
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>>183990373
>>183990632
>>183990691

Most of the August will be spent for Norsca DLC and RoR FLCs. Maybe at the end of August we start to see some glimpse of Skaven and at September a full blown trailer and gameplay.
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>>183990725
But that's essentially decades worth of fluff and filler being thrown in, not to mention every battle, it's not intricate worldbuilding, it's a bunch of backstory thrown on things over time along with shitloads of war (as it should be in a wargame)
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basically, warhammer is medieval history+fantasy stuffs+and a pinch of edgy stuffs. right?
I am historyfag, the """"medieval history"""" part is what gets me into warhammer desu.
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>>183991006
Can't resist the fantasy landsknechts
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>>183990789
>a hydra head so smug it just had to be copy pasted and mirrored and then put behind a black guard in a hope no one will notice its smugness
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>>183982381

Mannlet has to go early in a Vlad capaign. my man. He can't be allowed to squander Vlad and Isabella's rightful land and cattle.
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I'm roleplaying a Stupid Orc Warboss (with the appropriate starter trait) who mostly fields trolls and savage orcs, and I have no plan whatsoever for his pillaging and conquering. Shit's pretty fun, I have to admit. My territory remains small, with only Black Rock and its province (Death Pass?) firmly in my grasp, along with another dozen or so shitty settlements I conquered for the unit regrowth. I imagine Chaos will stomp down on me pretty hard if they aren't stopped before then, but goddamn if I'm not smashing a lot of stunties and gits.
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>>183991006
Yes, Fantasy is basically a bunch of things from the real world placed on a map that's basically the real world, giving it a fucking covering of fantasy makeup and then given a layer of edge
It also holds some home truths, like the Mexicans being lizardpeople and the Norse getting BLACKED and then destroying everything for everyone
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>>183991046
>laughing Swiss mercenaries
>>183991129
The vampiric triple C: Clay, Cattle, Counts.
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>>183991006
>medieal
more renaissance desu
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>>183991129
I actually vassalized him on turn 2. I wanted him to recruit Kemmler and Ghorst and then confederate but I never had the chance.
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>>183989267
>being this new
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1091523543

Oh shit.

With capturable cannon ships.
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>>183993402
Nice, looks good.
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>>183991238
>Clay
Altdorf confirmed rightful Vampire clay.
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That was a cute helf tho.
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>>183986220
>christianity is a peaceful religion that spread peacefully to europe, it is in our european nature!!
Christianity is a semitic desert religion that spread through Europe through genocide.

There's no such people as "neo-pagans" that talk about "MIGHTY THOR AND ODIN BLESS ME WITH STRENGTH", that shit is just mentally ill people that happened to latch on to hollywoodized picture of what pre-christian europeans supposedly worshipped.

as some shitposter wrote above (although ironically), the european religion is indeed peaceful. and it was not really a religion as much as it was an outlook on life and the nature of reality.
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>>183996492
>fedora posting in a dead thread
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