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NEWS
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>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>New PC Patch Segregates Hackers and Other Fixes
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements
>Tekken Bowl Trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs
>Geese Howard DLC trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA

BASIC INFORMATION
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>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Character Overviews:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame Data
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 Moves per Character
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS
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>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>KBD
https://youtu.be/3whW6bh9Aks
>Buffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iJWsjc_w8
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqbvQljTw0
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Throw Breaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on Pad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5Ji23k4LU
>Getting Up
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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>>183804365
thats just because of his anime screams
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the ops keep getting edgier
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is tekken bowling worth the money
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sleep with Eliza only for 5 bucks
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>>183804482

Prepare yourself for Bryan OPs next friend.
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Reminder that cute sleepy vampire is coming home on the 28th
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I'm new to Tekken, are Mishimas the only characters who can wavedash?
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>>183804681

No, Bob and Hwoarang can do it too.
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>>183804681
also king
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>>183804554
My wife will be sleeping with no one that isn't me
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>>183804681
Feng has a Snake dash
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Remember to use Eliza's yawn taunt after you win!
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whats a snake edge
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>>183805176
a high crushing low launcher
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>>183805176
An edgy snake
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>>183804482

Sorry I'll stop. I'll use Tekken girls in the OP from now on.
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>>183805208
what is a crush
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>PC has less input lag than PS4
>Tournaments still refuse to switch because 'muh legacy' 'muh logistics'
>Despite the fact you can get a PC company to put together builds that match a PS4 for roughly the same prize

TO's are just lazy. Actually, they're hard working cunts, but if you want PC on your tournament, you can easily make it happen.
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>>183805247
Sniffs aren't any better.
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>>183805320
the girl that made your peepee hard in high school
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Waifu after waifu after waifu after waifu after waifu. Not a single mishima not a single Bryan no Steve's no Miguel's no fengs no fucking anything expect YAAAaaa backflips, aop, YEAH fuck offffffffffff

Why are people so drawn to these characters? I don't understand
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>>183805323
>pc companies don't want to sponsor

This is where the problem lies. Until pc companies stop being such lazy retards, tournaments are stuck on console.
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Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the EWGF vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but EWGF.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Mishima. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual in involving hundreds of CH DF2 PEWGF loops.
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>>183805378

What should I do then
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>>183805323
You wanna know how I can tell you're underage?
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>>183805323
Is SFV played on console or PC at tournaments?
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>>183805320
high crush= highs can't hit you even if they go through your hitbox.

low crush = lows can't hit you even if they go through your hitbox.
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>>183805247
I was actually interested in seeing just how progressively edgy you could make it
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>>183805323
>Have to install Windows, drivers, Steam, Tekken 7
>Setup cables and proper equipment
>Instead of just buying a PS4 putting it down and inserting the disc

No one is going to do that for 1 measly frame of lag only the top 3 players in the world notice
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MainMan playing low IQ Paul.
He's not my man anymore.
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>>183805416
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>>183805486
Tekken memes, stages, whatever. The edgy was just a joke, please don't turn us into every other /vg/ general with nothing but sniff ops.
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>>183805323
FGC is poverty central. Most of the PS4 used in tournaments aren't even Pro or Slim, they are the old fat early PS4s. If they can't even afford Pro you can imaginehow would it be with gaming PCs.
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>>183805593
Sometimes you just need a break from being an alpha Kazuya main and embrace your inner gorilla
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>>183804543
For me, yes.
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>>183805567
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Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the hopkick vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but hopkick.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Sirius archer. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual in involving eating hundreds of ferrero rocher.
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>>183805787
but according to this pasta >>183805470 playing a non-mishima will wither your bones and intellect
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>watching /ourswede/ df4 an idiot ling to death
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>>183805320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvnDpz_lmEI
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>>183805927
it's fine as long as you perform the EWGF purifying ritual afterwards
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DAH
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>>183806042

Maybe it would be a good idea to put this video in the OP next time?
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Who are some good Miguel players to watch?
I've already got a main, but I've been debating switching for a while; it'd be good to see what the end-game power of Miguel can be to determine if he's worth swapping to.
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>>183806210
Sephiblack and Fab
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>>183805416
But I main both Miguel and Lili.
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>>183806282
Ok, but here's the real test
How is your Miguel customized?
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Does panda have silly parody intros like kuma? I want to be an even specialer snowflake.
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Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the AOP vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but AOP.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a top tier. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual involving dodging hundreds of mids in AOP.
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>>183806093
He's playing Paul, knowing full well that the ritual awaits him. For him, it is not a punishment, but rather an opportunity for growth.
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>>183805915
Hey faggots,
My name is Claudio, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, unholy, no-lifes who spend every second of their day blocking my lows. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own demotion matches, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than maining Lili.
This is no place for amateurs. I was captain of the exorcism team, and starter on my weaboo archery team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to Leo's feminine penis”? I also get straight hopkicks, and have a banging hot vampire gf (She just sucked me; Shit was so DAH!).Don't waste my time. Get out of here. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my puttana
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People in ranked are actually getting hit by my fly over laser.
Not even the regular one but the one where I fly across the screen then do it
LOL
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>>183805591
Tekken 7 has 4 frames of input lag on pc if you turn off vsync, so it's actually closer to 4 frames less
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>>183806635
>dat claudio hoverhand
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Why do people think Mishimas are high IQ? They have hard execution but they're fairly low IQ
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>>183806426
She mimicks Ling
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>>183806727
Name some low iq aspects of a mishima?
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>>183805915
>ferrero rocher

kek
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>>183805591
>having to bait this hard for (you)s
It's ok, this one's on the house.
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What's the most recent tier list for Tekken 7?
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>>183806727

t. Paul
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>>183806780
Not him but
>Wavedash frenetically like an ape because it looks cool and is basically unpunishable
>Spam electrics for same reason

There's just no thinking with a Mashima. You're just throwing out your 10000 hours in practise mode mechanics all over the floor and hoping it works.
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>>183806727
You'd better have a damn good explanation for daring to sully the name of Mishima.
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Is Miguel high IQ honest, or is he just an honest Paul?
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>>183806780
>whiffing ewgf all day
>paul-tier 50/50s
>thinking you're superior to everyone else because your character has a single just frame move
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>>183806974
This sounds like bait, but based on the majority of Mishima players I see in ranked in not sure it's wrong.
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>>183807020
He's a dishonest gorilla.
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>>183806974

>Wavedash frenetically like an ape because it looks cool and is basically unpunishable

Jesus, what an idiot.
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>>183807137
Miguel would never tell a lie.
What has he done to you?
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>>183807132
It is both bait and not entirety wrong.
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>>183807270
he wasted all my apples.
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so finally made it to Warrior, then lost two in a row to an Usurper, a rank I've never played before
it wasn't even close, the guy just knew all of my moves. He also had about 500 wins on me though

anyway, tl;dr, I pretty much had to learn a new skill every color, what does it take to make it in the yellows?
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>>183806974
Wavedash entails 50/50 mixup and it is punishable because you can't guard while doing it
Spam electrics? Just duck and launch
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>>183806974
There is nothing funnier than watching two mishimas trade electrics.
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>>183807020
Miguel's honest as fuck and super fun to play with. People won't dodge you either because there's no trickery involved. He punches and kicks real hard and that's all there is to him.
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>>183804379
>92 damage 10f punisher
nice meme
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>>183807716
Sounds like he leans more towards high IQ, then.
His damage doesn't seem that good though, tell me I'm missing something.
His meme ohko is pretty entertaining though.
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>>183807716
>Unreactable sweep into full combo
>Stupid damage low pokes
>Looks like a drunk gay pirate while doing it

Into the dishonest bin
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>Themaincuck is from stockholm

Well that explains everything. I knew something was off about him.
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>>183808239
Hey, he is a perfectly sober gay pirate.
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>>183807827
this is why I dodge Gouki
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>>183808239
>>Unreactable sweep into full combo
He only gets a full combo after charging the sweep, which you can react to
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>>183808239
it's not unreactable and it doesn't lead to a full combo
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>>183807924
Burla is my favorite fighting game move of all time. The laugh, the momentary serious expression and second laugh are all so fucking perfect.
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>>183808624
Sucks that its useless, but it kind of has to be with that damage
But I agree, it's hands-down the best move I've seen in a game.
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I know this is probably a shot in the dark, but does anyone have any tips in extracting the Tekken 7 characters into 3DSmax/Maya?
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>>183808239
>Unreactable sweep
>Miguel
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>>183804350 #

You really have to figure that out for yourself.

Think what you're inclined to do, and what works for you, then ask if there's another character that can do it better than your main, or get better reward for doing it. Think of where your weaknesses are, and think if there's a character who can cover those holes well.

For example, if you play a solid game but have problems with rushdown, consider Asuka, who has the best anti-button tools in the game. If you suck at creating opportunities for big damage but are good at whittling down your opponent with pokes, consider Kazumi. Try to find a character who plays to your strengths and covers your weaknesses.

I have slow reactions, so I like defensive characters who can slow the pace of the game down, and I tend to do much better with them than better characters that lean more toward fast paced play.
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I have completely lost any respect for all non mishimia characters
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>>183809395
what if you're good at creating opportunities for big damage but suck at whittling down your opponent with pokes
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>>183804795

King's is insanely hard though and less useful
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>playing Yoshi
>no idea what I'm doing but I know a few of the basics
>unintentionally pissing people the fuck off and they wont rematch after i win
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____KA
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>>183809674
play a rushdown memer like yoshi
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>start getting thoughts about competing
>not new but not too experienced
>tfw it's too late to start

S-See me next game.
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why was heihachi the playable character in story mode's final battle, and not kaz? this was his big moment
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>>183810014

Because Hei was the good guy all along.

>>183809973

Do it, it's never too late.
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>>183809973
>too late to start
?
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Will TheMainMan an hero himself after Jin kills Kazuya for good in Tekken 8?
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>>183810014
because Kaz is a bitch
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why is claudio such a retarded character bros?
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It's fun just ki charging randomly as bryan

HYAAHAAAH
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>>183810179
Nahh, Kazuya's moveset will be moved onto the new diversity mishima and he'll keep ewgf'in
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>>183805323

No fuck that, local TO here, if you think PCs in tournaments are a good idea you have never hosted a fucking tournament. Fuck that.

If the PCs all had standard specs, could be navigated with the controller/stick, didn't require additional hardware to operate and all had standard output formats then yeah, I'd do it, except I wouldn't because more people still own PS4 setups so it's possible to get them and you can't cheat on a PS4 setup.

There are PC exclusive games that people have tried to create scenes around here for and it's a fucking nightmare and no one wants a bunch of pot monsters manhandling their rigs anyways.
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>>183810179
I hope not because then I'd have to hate Jin, who is currently among my favorites.
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What are the most interesting matchups in Tekken 7?
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>>183810721
Mishima v mishima
Jack v anyone
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>>183810721
Jin vs Heihachi is the purest form of Tekken
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>>183810721
anyone vs Heihachi
out of all the players in Tekken history, Heihachi players are the people with the highest IQ and has a good life
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>>183810721
Yoshi vs Raven
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>>183805323

You know most tournaments are not sponsored?

>>183809674

Go for someone with really explosive damage and great Oki. Akuma or Ling maybe?
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>>183810179
Even if Kazuya dies his moveset will most likely live on
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>>183811068
If Ling has explosive damage in this iteration of the series that's pretty fucked up. I love Ling but that's not supposed to be her strength.
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>>183810721
Mokujin mirror match
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>>183811328
Oh don't worry she has plenty of other strengths in this iteration of Tekken as well.
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>>183810296
Taunt dashing is my favorite
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>>183810721
Jack vs Dragunov
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>>183811328
there's a reason ling's best in game.
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>>183811328

She has explosive damage with easy to perform combos and probably the best oki in the game

Also a tiny hurtbox. Bitching about charactera is for scrubs but she's the whole package.

t. Ling secondary
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>>183811328
>>183811531
>>183811740
B- but Ling discord said that she's B tier at best?
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>>183811984
Are you implying people that play the character would know less than you who does not play the character? Don't bebfucking stupid
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>>183811984
Playing low-tier is an option select.

Pretending that your main is low-tier is also an option-select.
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>>183811951
Can't forget her 50/50s out of everything and ability to cancel her snake edge

It's hard to duck for her ss3 then when u notice the cancel stand back up for bt4
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>>183811984
>character that carries some girl to win majors
It'd be the equivalent of making Chun-Li just significantly better than all other characters and then the girl who isn't very good but can do a combo and only plays Chun-Li because she's a girl on the cast won a major because of it.
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just played against my first Master Raven
is this niggress just gimmicks galore?
>cartwheels left and right
>high jump dive kicks
>teleports after teleports
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>>183811984
ling players are autistic frauds who cannot play any other character since they can no longer get their free wins from tricks and evasion and gimmicks
never listen to them when it comes to tekken
they are actually playing their own game
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I finally made it to Brawler. This is my first tekken since casually playing Tekken 3

Am I good yet guys?

It only took me 100 wins
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>>183811984
Just like Jack :^)
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>>183812452
You'll get out of blues one day
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>>183812430
so gimmick is just a word tekgen uses for "things i dont know about" then, got it
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>>183812569
>teleports
>hit her once and she teleports and hits you
>these are not gimmicks
are you retarded?
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Ling needs a damage nerf and Lee needs a damage buff.
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>>183812430
(You)
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>>183812569
kinda? gimmick means it's a trick that only works if you haven't seen it.
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>>183811984

At a high level Tekken is 90% whiff punishing and she's not amazing at that and struggles to get into RDS safely
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>>183812562
yea in time i think i can get to toshin/raijin/yaksa ranks
you wont though
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>>183812682
Teleporting on hit is just a flashy parry.
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>>183812682
>parry
>a gimmick
moron
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>>183813130
Wow what a sick burn. How's bein 15 treating you?
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>>183812569
I mean whole idea behind the word 'gimmick' is that it's something that is "only entertaining for its novelty."

Once you side all the 'gimmick' of a roadside show, the show stops becoming entertaining.
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>>183812693
yeah ling's damage is actually really fucking high for some reason
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>>183813301
i wish i knew
go back to the ling discord
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>>183813379
>>183812724
a gimmick is something that won't work in 99% of situations, usually out of being impractical for particular reasons. a parry with a naruto animation isn't a gimmick, anon is just a retard.
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>>183812569
t. Ling main
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>>183812562
I'm yellow rank I feel the same way about her. My friend is orange rank and feels the same way about her...
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>>183810721
Jack vs Gigas
Yoshimitsu mirror
Hwoarang mirror
Katarina vs Lili ( two high-risk characters with snake edges )
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>>183811984
dumb frogposter
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Please stop whining about characters and play the fucking game, the characters are not going away, you have to figure out how to fight them EVEN IF they're as hilariously unfair as your scrub ass implies.
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>>183813584
I dont play ling
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Gimmicky characters go by their own set of rules and you're pretty much fucked if you don't know them.
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>>183810721
hwoarang mirror. clash of styles is always super clear and very fun and engaging to watch.
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How long until I git gud? Being shit at this game sucks.
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>>183810721
Devil Jin vs anyone
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>>183813574
Buffing Ling with making her damage high is on par with buffing Zangief/Astaroth by making him quick and agile.
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>>183813989
On the other hand, if you do know the gimmicks they're fucked.
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>>183813959
you can beat a character consistently and not enjoy it or not find it fun or not like that character
ill complain all day about ling until her unseeable low rage drive stops being a fucking launcher at the very least
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>>183814178
>>183813574
It isnt high at all. Have you seen how easy the rest of the supposed top tiers can shit out 70+ damage? She's amazing but her damage is not high
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I didn't even know the japanese pro wrestling scene was so huge before Tekken, man

do you guys follow it?
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>add the word "gimmick" to your comment filters
>90% of character complaining disappears
4chanX is godlike.
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>>183814332
she gets almost 80 damage from her cali roll and over 70 damage from her ss sweep
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>>183814346
>following wrestling past age 12

just kidding but no
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>>183814346
yeah im also into that gachimuchi
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I can see why people are annoyed at the meter characters now. If I wanted to play street fighter then I'd play just third strike on fightcade.
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>>183814332
even if its average thats still a bit much because her oki is by far the best in the game and now thanks to the shitty screw mechanic she has good wall carry whereas before her combos in terms of damage and wall carry were both below average which balanced out her super good oki in open ground and wall mixups
and now she got more launchers and safer shit and better defensive/evasive tools
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>>183814446
what about actual gimmicks though?
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>>183814889
Lmao then play her if she's that good
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>>183814332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOvCBWlTM2Y

This strong for an easy 14 frame launcher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DE7rbGcLsU

68 from a 15 frame launcher.
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>>183814902
i think people who dont complain about gimmicks dont complain about them because they go to the lab and figure out how to beat them instead of whining in tekken general on 4chan
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>>183814271

You didn't listen

Your bitching solves nothing

If you truly think a character is unfair you shouldn't be beating them if you're playing people your level. Just play the damn game. These theads are getting insufferable with this "EVERYONE BUT LEE AND JACK ARE DISHONEST" bullshit.
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>>183815053
the first one is the oki combo, you can get even more with a more damaging ender
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>>183814332

Ling gets 70~ for combos i learned in a day

Coupled with he rinsane oki game, she shits out damage absolutely
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>>183814964
no i want to play tekken and get better at tekken not some boring evasive character that frauds wins for me
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>>183814446
Must be hard being a Ling main huh
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Character complaining aside. Xiaoyu and Leo are broken.
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>>183815442
nice strawmanning but no i play steve
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What's the appeal of Leo? He/she looks dull as fuck.
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>>183815136
no i can still complain because theyre valid complaints
of course i deal with them but i can still complain
im not going to let one character deter me from playing this game
no one is even refuting me besides
>stop complaining lmao just play the game lmao t.ling player
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>>183815556
being top tier
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>>183815445
Reminder to get a pocket Jack to deal with Ling
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>>183815556
She's the second best jack of all trades character in the game. DJ is the best, but mishima. She's got literally every tool but low launchers. She's also got a negative execution requirement.
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>>183815620
speedkicks can be too stubborn for his own good sometimes. he's so set in his style of hwo that he won't adapt to the xiaoyu matchup, so he just picked jack. i don't blame him since he's a sponsored top level tournament player, but i hope his stubbornness doesn't get the best of him later on.
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>>183815675
>She
>She
>She

STOP IT. LEO IS A BOY.
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Am the only one that likes to fit sets together and make characters look like actual alt sets instead of "lol I put a traffic light on his head."

Tekken 7 has some pretty shitty customization honestly.
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>>183815863
Her name is Eleonor.
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>>183815315

To be fair though, I should mention the starter for this is launch punishable

>>183815574

You can complain but it's retarded and usually not valid at all. Knock off the "this is so unfair omg but I beat it every time because I'm actually good and know how it's actually fair :^)" nonsense.
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>load up some player matches
>first is some akuma that beats me with solid fundies and character matchup knowledge
>blocking a lot of my gimmicks
>he winquits me
>okay.jpg
>next match is a steve that goes unga bunga and whiffs constantly
>punish everything
>eventually catch him mashing so hard i'm hitting him with a jab over and over
>doesn't accept my rematch
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>>183815917
HIS name HIS name
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Is devil jin allowed to be so strong because you can't just unga him?
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>>183816018
She's canonically a chick, sorry spergo.
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>>183815993
K nice blog?
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>>183815863
>>183816018
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>>183816018
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Is there a shortcut to doing repeated crouch dashes with mishimas?
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>>183815970
but its not fair thats the whole point
risk-reward is totally different vs ling now to the point where several range 0 situations are in her favor
getting into any scramble situation vs ling is basically a lost situation because she now has so many ways to get a good result with little risk
tell me where its not valid
people havent done so for months because they actually cant
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>>183816189
>>183816197
Outdated
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>>183816251
yeah it's called wavedashing and there's a million and one tutorials on youtube
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>>183816189
>>183816197

clearly fake tits

and besides, tag is non cannon
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>>183816340
>>183816359

Stay in denial.
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>>183816197
A shame they nerfed her breasts again in 7 and have no bikini for her.
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Stop.
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>>183816349
Ok thanks bruh ill check it out
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>>183816423
(You)
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>>183806282
Are you me? I am Miguel and I want to try Lili, what made you play both of them?
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Can you guys recommend any channels that play tekken?
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>>183816340
>>183816359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvzFEKWzN8k

harada himself says leo is female. any denial beyond this point is headcanon
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>>183816717
I thought they looked cool.
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>>183815894
I also make legit costumes
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>>183816803
And he said this later on. Leo's gender changes from one title to another, as you can see by (his) ingame model.
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leo started his transition before t7................................
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>>183816860
We really are soul brothers. Good luck to you.
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>>183816735
greentekken and battlefinger
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>>183816735
https://www.twitch
.tv/sephiblack

very friendly top player
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How do I into Dragunov vs Xiao as Drag

Seems like she ducks most of my shit
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>>183816253

Her range blows outside of caliroll and AOP, just KBD and half her options go away. The only real standing 50/50 sotuation she has is either with rage in RDS or sort of in AOP but 3~4 is semi reactable and all her launchers from stance are very, very punsihable, and in order to get into stance safely she has to land a hit with the transition move, otherwise she gets quick-midded out of everything.

Her damage is high but it's abnormally easy to force a whiff against her

Either eay it doesn't fucking matter, these are the cards, so fucking play them. If you can't win without picking Ling, pick Ling, or accept that you're making a game-losing choice at character select. If you can, then what the fuck are you even bitching about

I fucking hate crybabies
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>watching first TMM video
>less than one minute in he's talking about his hairy coco
Oh....
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>tfw I can't play sway characters because can't learn perfect KBD

Save me.
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>>183817507
no.
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>complaining about ling when you can just dodge them
PC wins again
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>>183816803
>>183816803

its common knowledge that Eleonor has the biggest dong in the series (erect)
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>>183817096
d2
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>Turbo Bear battle
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>>183817609
what about those of us that don't want to be little bitches?
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>>183817609
>complaining about any character
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>>183817725
>turbo paul battle
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>>183817324
his what
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I want to play the most dishonest character. Which one is that, /tekgen/?
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>>183817901
ling
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>>183817901
all the characters that I always lose against
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>>183817901
paul
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>>183817803
His hairy, bushy cock
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What would heihachi's twin pistons be? Df1,2 or ws1 qcf2?
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Why are mishimas so satisfying to practice with?
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>>183817901
Ling, but you won't get good playing her. Get to orange ranks with a fundamentals based character first to avoid the meme ling player trap.
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>>183817901

Probably Paul
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>>183817609
not when the patch hits this friday
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>>183817161
>her range blows
safe running 3 into aop
her evasiveness makes my range blow too since my effective pool of moves become much smaller in neutral

>just kbd
she goes low or empty rolls in front of your face or you just get backed into a wall eventually

>only real standing 50/50
not what im complaining about

>very, very punishable
what kind of ling player are you fishing for highly punishable launchers

>abnormally easy to force a whiff
yea just backdash for literally 50 seconds until she has to go in and overextend herself

>these are the cards so fucking play them
i am
its just not fun enjoyable or rewarding by any stretch of the imagination
if the ling player has to work for their wins like before this game then yes its a good match
but in this game it isnt

>game-losing choice
the game-losing choice is talking to a ling player about ling because they have no sense of how tekken works and risk-reward in this game to see that their character is plain degenerate in her current form and instead choose to say shit like "lol just backdash bro just make shit whiff like what the fuck haha"

ill complain until someone besides me provides some valid points
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How are you supposed to react to shit with 8 frames of lag?
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>>183818363
stop playing on ps4
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>>183817901
ling
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>>183818008
t. ling main
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>>183817901
ling xiaoyu
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>>183818296
That ling player got rekt how will he reply?
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>>183818296
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Any NA PS4 player wanna do a ft10
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>>183818684
Wow a typical Xiaoyu player reply LOL
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>>183818684
>literally unable to come up with any response

as expected
back to ling discord
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>>183806409
Miguel's TTT2 outfit, but white
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the absolute state of ling mains
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Man I need to learn how to KBD.
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Whats so bad about xiaoyu?
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>>183819023
go easy mode and use a keyboard or hitbox
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>>183819104
I'm considering it, but I'll have to relearn it on keyboard.

Why can't this game just have backwalk ree.
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>>183818925

I hope someone winquits you after their first win
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If I have 0 experience with anything outside of pad, should I just bite the bullet and go with hitbox instead of stick? or will I become really gay
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>>183819082
read
>>183818296
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>>183818939
>>183818959
I'm not that guy. I just think it's time to stop crying and move on to another topic
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>>183819504
Alright. Why is devil jin such bullshit?
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>>183819504
Let's complain about paul again.
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>>183819604
full combo off first hit of hellsweep
good pokes
ss2u
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>>183819770

>ss2u
>good move.
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>>183819770
you forgot b4 and cd~uf3
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>>183819770
thats not a full combo
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When playing Raven, do I generally get out of BT using b+3+4 or just by holding d/b?
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>>183819504
if he couldnt make any valid point why would he even reply to the post with valid points in the first place
he just enabled me to post more about ling
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>>183819604
Devil Jin is good but he's not bullshit
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>highest ranked mishima on ps4 is #72
Welp
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>watching some jap play tekken
>his opponent messages him after the game and apologizes for leaving and thanks him for the game
>he writes back thanking him for the games and wishing to battle him again sometime

why can't the rest of the world be this mannered
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What's the most damage I can get out of DevJin's ss2?
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>>183820234
is it qudans?
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>>183820236
ss2, u1+2, EWGF, ff4 S! ff3,1ff DEWGF
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>>183820373
>DEWGF
>D
???
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>>183820571
Dash Electric Wind God Fist
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>>183820235
It's like this in goober gear lobbies in Japan. Some people"bow" with their little player avatar before playing.
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>>183820571
PEWGF
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>bears get full combo off hellsweep
>nobody complains
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>>183820235
>why can't the rest of the world be this mannered
Multiracial communities.
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>>183820964
>PEWGF
>P
???
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>>183821071
Perfect Electric Wind God Fist

Something only Kazuya has out of his mist step. It means a 13f EWGF, which is a frame perfect execution of a god fist.
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>switch mains to devil job
>get shit on after first match 100% of the time now
I'm not even that great
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DDEWGF = deep dash
SSEWGF = side step
BDEWGF = backdash
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>>183821463
can we get an expanding brain meme chart with electrics
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>>183818296

Step the running 3 or don't give her space to do it. Poke her out of cali roll or step before she does it. Yeas she has options, these aren't a fucking BEAT LING FOR FREE, SHE'S SHIT card, these are ways to handle the situations. You have answers to her stuff, she has answers to yours, that's fighting games.

If Ling doesn't use unsafe launchers she doesn't get explosive damage. They are high reward, high risk. Her knockdown game is stringer but doesn't net her garunteed damage and can be answered fine.

Learn how the game is fucking played, don't play range 0 against Ling, remember she can't block in stance and diesn't get free + frames going in like Josie or Hworang

I don't even fucking main Ling I just use her to meme out scrubs like you early in bracket because I know they're befuddled by it
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>>183821054
Yeah because China is amazing isn't it
Retard
Probably a Paul player
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>tfw laggy connection
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All Content Unlocked...so what do I do with my hundred-billion fight money now?
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>>183822009
>china
>single ethnic group
whut?
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>>183820996
because that alone isn't enough to make bears good
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>>183822009
Don't reply to /pol/turds.
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>mfw I've never seen a bear in ranked

I feel the urge to learn some cheesy moves with the bear just to fuck with people online..
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>>183822310
Only time I've ever seen a bear in raked was a 1st dan one with 10 straight losses
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Panda sucks
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dont play tekken before bed

I did and I couldnt sleep because of the adrenaline flowing through me after a close match
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>struggle to get to grand master with Jin (53 wins)
>read here that you the only thing you need with Paul is death fist and demo man
>get to Fighter rank in a day
>still don't even know Paul's combos

What am I supposed to get out of this
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>>183823226

I always play a best of. 3 before bed and drift off to sleep thinking of strats
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Is this /ourguy/
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>>183823417
Fun, mainly
It's fun to play paul to beat people into total submission at the lower levels
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>>183823417

Nothing unless you want to main Paul

It will give you bad habits and stunt your learning
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Who blows up Feng, King, Dragunov and Bryan? I want to beat my friends
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I know this general likes to meme about unga but Dragunov honestly is fucking ridiculous
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>>183823981
I challenge anyone to name ONE bad thing about Dragunov.
He's literally perfect.
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>>183824108
he made harada take away black
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>>183823898

There are no real match ups in this game that favors one or the other. But I assume you and your friends just mash, so in that case, I'd have to say play Josie, she's great against mashers.
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>>183823898
Xiaoyu
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Hwo players, whats that string he has where it goes 4 kicks, 1 punch? It's high, mid, low, high, mid and the last mid punch looks like right stance 2.
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>>183824108
He doesn't have good ch launchers outside of wr2 which you really have to grind out buffering it out of all moves you do

He doesn't have good lows outside of d2 either
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>>183824637
qcf3 is pretty good
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>Win quitting in player match
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>tfw hdd load times between modes was literally 5+ minutes
Switched to an SSD and now it's 10 seconds, tops.
No idea what the fuck is wrong with my hard drive but tekken is no longer a pain to start up and play
Grinding away at practice is fun again
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>>183824819
Oh yeah that's true I forgot about that

Honestly I'd take Bryan's db3 over drags d2 and Bryan's qcb3 over drags qcf3
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>>183825091
I haven't felt a big difference after moving my game from ssd to hdd
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What do I do against mishimas that keep pressuring with 1,2?
If I duck they do d/f1,2
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>>183824226
that wasn't just him but also lars
also it's coming back this week!
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Miguel is ___!
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>>183825298
Side step left
Down jab
High crush
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>>183825360
gay
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>>183825320
what was lars's crazy black costume?
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>>183825360

A homo
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>>183825509
not sure but I saw a video of him on the last level of the temple stage and he was basically invisible
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i think I've finally found my character after all this time
I can only do shit 50 damage combos with him at the moment but my god is Yoshimitsu so fun to play.
Also his winpose makes me giggle everytime.
>"Farewell faggot"
>*flies away*
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>>183824108
He can't build robots
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>tfw starting to get fed up with kingjae

he's just too fucking whiny sometimes

>bruh why you winquit on me
>ah for fucks sake why is your connection so bad?

at least aris is on..
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>>183825495
>>183825542
Rude
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>>183825820
>watching josie playing stoners
disgusting.
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>>183817901
Yoshi, the meme ninja
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>>183825360
Ruggedly handsome!
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>>183825820
You should see how whiny he gets when he gets beaten by a Chloe or an Eliza. I have never seen anyone whine as much as he does.
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>>183825998
>>183825360
Kys samefaggot
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>>183826215
Keep yourself safe?
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>>183826215
Nice, good shit.
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>>183826421
what kind of absolute homo theme is that
>>
any good Yoshimitsu youtubes/steamers?
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>>183826448
stock clover theme, because I'm a filthy phone poster
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>>183820031
can you put a trip on so the rest of us can filter you. you're approaching lucifer tiers of whiny-baby mode
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>>183826539
he is lucifer
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>>183820234
What is the top10?
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>>183826134
Is Eliza considered easy to play?
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>>183820234
THIS IS MY CHANCE
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>>183826695
She's not exactly a "Pick up and play" character. She's easier if you have experience with the usual 2d motions but her optimal combos are difficult to pull off.
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I'm fucking done

Ive played like 700 online matches and I still can't react to anything, and I mean anything at all

I get hit by pauls fucking fist sweep whatever the fuck it is, I get hit by all 30 frame sweeps, I get hit by fucking unblockables point blank

I thought that maybe it would get better after a while but there's zero improvement, before I realize he's sweeping i'm already in the air
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>>183826994
try preemptively countering them with crushes instead of trying to react
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>>183826854
I want to pick her up because she and her moves look cool.
I've been playing Leo because of her one combo fits all gameplay but I might appreciate something more difficult.
It's not a massive input salad like Akuma though, right?
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>>183827493
it's worse
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Can someone give me a tutorial on KBD specifically for the 2 player side?
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>>183828510
You waggle the stick.
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>>183826673
got it open right now, top 10 in order from 1st to 10th is
Drag, Steve, Lili, Miguel, Speedkicks, Akuma, Leo, Law, Asuka, Miguel
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>>183820369
qudans plays on pc like basically everyone else
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>>183824463
Nvm, found it :). It's 3,3,d3,4,1. You can duck the 4 and jab. Can't ss out of it.
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>>183819957
db, it moves you away quickly and ducks highs
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>>183828826
>Miguel is suddenly getting popular
Damn.
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>>183819957
>>183829256
I don't know if it still works, but back in TTT2 you could do d/b>b and quickly turn around blocking standing. I used to use it to connect 3~4 off of long combos that ended with b+4,4 (B!).
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>>183826459
eyemusician, knee, shouchan, just frame james
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>>183829449
>two Miguel players happen to be really good
>this means he's suddenly popular
Don't get me wrong, I really like Miguel. He's a fuckin cool character.
But I haven't seen a shred of evidence that his popularity is on the rise.
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>>183826994
Don't play anything less than 5 bars. 30f sweeps become unreactable at 3 bars.

If anyone doubts me on that, try blocking recorded mixups in training mode with 3 bar latency. You will hot down back and still get hit.

>>183827265
That sounds like a good way to get floated. Any good player will punish you for trying to randomly low crush.
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>Katarina just casually does 100 damage combos on the wall
She really is too easy for what she does
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>>183829539
Rofl haven't seen that b! Notation in a while. I can't believe tasty steve calls screws bounds. Retarded.
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>>183829648

3 bar in practice is different than the different ranges of 3 bar online
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>>183829643
Is NYC Fab one of them?
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>>183829648
I think that dude has a long way to go before he faces good players
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>>183829625
>knee
Lmao
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>>183829754
3 bars online is worse because you have more to think about. In training mode, you know a mixup is coming and still can't block it.
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>>183829741
So what, Lucky Chloe just casually does 95 damage combos without rage or a wall
Are you gonna complain about that too
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>>183829648
3 bars in training mode aren't equal to 3 bars online, it's way worse. Try it on 4 bars. It's damn hard, but reactable
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>>183829891
Ok we get it. You suck
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>>183829752
The difference is b+4,4 (B!) was actually useful, b+4,4 (S!) is a heap of shit in comparison.
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>>183829973
You have it backwards. Online is worse than training mode. The lag isn't even consistent online which makes things even dicier.
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>>183830103
I don't remember tag2 looking this awful
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>>183829917
You're comparing a staple combo off of a simple 15 frame launcher to an extremely telegraphed launcher that not only has to be done from BT, but can be interrupted before she even hits the ground.
Dumbass stoner
>>
I think I'm done with PS4
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>>183830342
Cool. I play fine on it but you do you.
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>>183830332
Alright, keep bitching then bruv
>>
Reminder that if you play Paul, to take 3 ranks off your rank for your true rank.
>>
Reminder if you get fucked by Paul you need to work on movement and spacing
>>
When will throws be useful again.
>>
Reminder Paul you're bad etc
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>>183830252
Well maybe if you're talking about PS4. I don't have such problems on PC most of the time, 4 bar matches aren't bad at all in terms of delay. I do get fake 4 bars from time to time, but not that often.
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Paul is braindead
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>>183827493
I think it's comparable or worse to Akuma's. She's pretty fun though.
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>>183831254
same for asuka, steve, hworang, kazumi, jin, and kazuya
>>
Why doesnt Tekken community have any traps? We just have Taesei and actual girls
>>
>>183830983
I am on PC as well. 4 bars are usually playable, but unreliable. 3 bars and less are always trash. If you think otherwise, then you aren't actually trying to block lows or tech throws on reaction.
>>
Paul Paul Paul Paul Paul Paul
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>>183831119
that's not eliza
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>>183830497
Get owned bitch
>>
Why can I move well on my main and not that well on other characters

It's not Sway or anything
>>
How do you do Nina's iWS1 carry combos? Is there some trick to buffering it that I'm not aware of?
>>
>>183831816
Other characters might have worse backdashes
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>>183827493
Watch this
https://youtu.be/nTf3UVgioLM
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>Aris plays King, Josie, Eddy, and Dragunov
I'm honestly surprised /tekgen/ doesn't hate his guts
>>
What's the best thing Drag can get after a blocked slide or someone does a move that leaves them face up on the floor?
>>
do you guys think King's ki charge could be used as a possible gimmick? ive though about doing that then canceling it with ff,N,2. if you catch them off guard thats 51 damage, unless they block low for some reason. youd also only be able to do it once but you could do a mid out of it instead.
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>>183832509
His fans are a loud minority
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>>183831119
>the unrestricted jiggle
Nice.
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>>183832509
Aris plays to win, nothing more or less.
Sometimes that means being a cheap bitch.
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>>183832578
you mixed up kingbruv fans
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>>183832571
You can probably hit cc~d+2; ws+4; b+1,2 into whatever his best ender is.
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>>183832868
I got the ws+4 thing but I haven't tried crouch cancelling a d+2. I'll try that thanks.
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>>183832509
Character choice is a skill.
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>when the connection keeps robbing you of crucial round winning punishes
online is so fucking bad for your health
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>>183832509
I prefer MainMan tbqh
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>>183832787
I doubt anyone seriously likes KingJae.
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>put lili with her lewd outfit as enemy in practise mode

>they only thing I can think about is my character railing her

damn shes too hot
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>>183833417
i hope not, but you never know. poe's law and all that
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>>183833536
what's her lewd outfit? Pics?
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>>183833536
which one is the lewd outfit?
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>mfw they rage quit
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>>183833846
source
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>>183833846
kazuya steve and bryan worse than master raven?
the difficulties are all correct though except diablo jim
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>>183833846
Can we get a tierlist that is an actual list instead of this
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Been playing so much Tekken lately my reflexes in actual life have improved dramatically.
>Drop something
>Twitch catch it instantly in mid air
>C-Calculated
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>>183833646
>>183833654
3/4

personally I prefer 4 because she's lewder in black for some reason
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GOD I FUCKING HATE ITEM MOVES
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>>183834407
just, crouch or somethin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7bBYTKbwoE

>ling players
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>>183834407
If you get hit by an item move you deserved it desu
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>>183833846
this... is actually alright
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>>183832185
I've already seen this.
Tekken 7 is the first Tekken where I'm actually trying to learn to play and the reason I'm asking about Eliza is because I want to drop Leo.
I'm just worried about having too hard a time with her inputs and getting stuck in practice mode when I could be getting better at the game.
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>>183834527
>>183834747
Easy to forget when you both have 1 pixel of health left, final round and you're both really far apart
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>No sidestep moves at all
>Electric gives tailspin instead of launch
>Shit lows besides hellsweep
>Predictable as fuck

Does Harada hate Jim?
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DLC WHEN?!?!
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>>183834741
The absolute state of Ling mains
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>>183834741
fuck off maincuckswe stop shilling your shit here
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>>183834880
play eliza if you want to play eliza
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>>183834741
How did that Xiaoyu even make Usurper
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>its a jae bitches about every other charcter he loses to in the game because hes maining fucking gigas of all characters episode

lmao
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>>183835613
bruv

gigas is lowkey sick
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>>183835716
oh my days
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Devil Jin's bullshit is so fucking bullshit
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>Play main for few days
>Forget how to play sub
>Play sub for a few days
>Forget how to play main
>Play both equally each day
>Really mediocre with both

It hurts
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I'm a ling main
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>>183836069
who? do you mean lee or law or lars?
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>>183836221
ling xiaoyu you fool
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>>183834880
If you truly wanted to play Eliza, then you'd commit to learning her combos and getting the execution down.
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>>183836221
>lars
nobody plays lars, not even swedes
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>>183833846
>tfw main is mid tier with high execution / difficulty
I feel the high IQ flowing through me
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claudio is high iq
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who's the best character to practice fundamentals?
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>>183836562
claudio is paul tier iq
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I wish the game didn't show how many wins you have with a character, just your rank.
Being new and shit at the game I can see how my autism will bother me having too many wins at absolute shit rank after a lot of time.
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I'm struggling getting out of light blue, what should I look to improve on? Mixup metropolis? Port punish? Combo city? Movement market?
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>>183836625
Gonna be honest, I do laugh out loud at green/blue ranks with over 1000+ wins
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>>183836889
Movement market
Port punish
Mixup metropolis
Combo city
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>>183836359
I suppose so.
I'll pick her up once I can and give her an honest go.
I already fought one in ranked play who pulled off some combos even though I completely bodied her the other two rounds, so I suppose it can't be THAT hard.
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>>183837017
Cool, thanks
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>>183836953
I read this as 100+ wins but i'm Brawler with 82
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>>183834020
You think djin is easy? I've got news for you
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are Miguel players the most dishonnest players in the game?
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>>183837912
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Need some help from a fellow Bryan main
Trying to do this combo
fb+2, ff+3, b+3~3,4, ff2

Why is the mach punch at the end such a pain in the ass to get out? I've been practicing for a while now and I've only gotten it once or twice. Is there a certain method to it?
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how do we prevent tekken from dying bros?
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>>183833846
Alisa should be 8 sqaures to the right
Nina should be 4 squares to the right
Heihachi should be 2 sqaures up and 1 square right
Lucky Chloe should be 8 squares to the right and 1 square up
Feng and Miguel should both be moved 5 squares to the right
Josie should be moved to the edge of the png and 5 squares up
Bob should be moves 2 squars right and 5 squares down
Lee should be moved 4 squares down
Akuma should be moved 2 squares up
Bryan should be moved to the middle of the line but 3 squares up
Law should be moved to the edge of the png and 2 squares down
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>>183838237
Kill JDCR and Saint
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>>183838237
>general doesn't have mach speed shitposting
>waaah tekken is dying
Back to the with you
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>>183838237
pc console crossplay, netcode overhaul, replays, in game aris tutorials
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>>183838416
he said "prevent", dipshit

back to english class with you
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>>183838237
ban all Alisa, Bears, Paul, Eliza and Gouki from ranked
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>>183838512
Nothing i said indicates i didnt read it correctly. Shut it
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>>183838617
you are not smart
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>>183838009
it's just an easy ender to drop because it's a tight window. since you can't buffer ff motions you have to do the ff+2 the instant you recover.
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How are you supposed to react to lows with 8frames of lag?
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>>183838237
nerf ling
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>>183838651
Wow epic retort my dude. You aure showed me
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>>183838237
ban Asuka and other retards with cartwheel and unreactable lows
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How do we fix /tekgen/
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>>183838656
Shit, I feel like that could be an even bigger pain in the ass online. Maybe I should just stick to the combo I can hit consistently for now. It does like 6 or 7 less damage but at least I never drop it
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>>183838898
The hell is wrong with flips?
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>>183838709
You have to be Korean
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Paul legit makes me angry, every time I have a promo match I get memed by some dumb Paul or Dragunov cunt
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>>183838709
you dont
you guess or make a read
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>>183838978
Mayne git gud?
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>>183838978
Mayne, git gud
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reminder if you're going against king niggers
either don't go against them or gimmick them and winquit them
they deserve 0 respect
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>>183839021
I thought Tekken was supposed to be skill based. Not luck based.
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Yo DJ players, Is ws2 dash ff31~ff 2 d/f324 the best I can do without doing a dash electric?
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>>183839159
solo tekken is about making less wrong reads than your opponent
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Reminder to play everyone
don't winquit anyone
unless they have a bad connection of course
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>go against King, Alisa, Leo and Asuka players
>all they do is gimmick after gimmick and stupid shit
>always drops combo's and presses every button ever
>decide not to even accept any of these retards request ever
>jump from 3rd dan to grand master in a couple of hours
really makes me think, just goes to show that these characters require 0 skill and just stupid shit to win
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>>183839392
I'm starting to winquit people out of spite because im tired of it happening to me
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>>183839432
>loses to a character
>they are the ones with no skill
What did he mean by this?
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>Ranked makes me angry
>Decide to play quick matches
>Get angry aswell

I wish I didnt have Autism, I just want to enjoy the game
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How do I git gud with nina?
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>>183839156
who you main
PLEASE respond
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How do you know when to break king's throws using training mode?
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>>183840009
Steve
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7bBYTKbwoE
thank TheMainMan
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how do I make it so he stops jumping back so I can do a regular combo
or is this a forced gimmick
I know he's got other moves that chain from it, but I mean specifically how do I just stay in place after the leap. He does it on block for whatever reason.
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>ranked
>weapons are allowed
>niggers use guns
no skill I will gimmick you and winquit if you do this
if I'm about to lose, turn on trainer so it counts as a disconnect for both of us
die faggot
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>>183840134
is this new tech
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>>183840095
When is someone going to make TMM rage compilation? The people deserve it, someone must deliver.
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>>183840267
You actually get hit by items? Kek
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>>183840267
You know they probably do it just to make you mad. Sounds like it worked
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>>183840332
its me trying to understand yoshimitsu
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>>183840134
Stop mashing 3+4?

I don't play Yoshi so idk
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>>183840267
The entire point of items is disrespect
Looks like it worked you salty shitter
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>>183840571
>>183840581
>turn on items
>gimmick them harder with hworang
>get 2 perfects after these niggers use it on the first round
>winquit them
you faggots don't know how good it feels
bet you really don't since y'all get dodged all day
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>>183840267
>>183840823
Hey buddy did you fight any Kings today? Watch out for those stagger kicks alright
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>>183840823
You sound really mad. Youll get out of blues eventually
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>>183840960
I'm in yellow nigger
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Why is there so much cheap shit in this game?
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>>183839392
Play everyone, win quit everyone (except Jack players)
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>>183841017
Yea i doubt it. Items makin you this mad you are garbage
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Lars combos look disproportionately cool for how easy they are to do with all those DE and SE transitions and this is making me want to paly him more

How's Lars generally played, /tekgen/? Will I garner any respect from those I fight if I use Lars? How many Lars players are there online?
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>>183840823
Mate. You're fuckin brain damaged
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>>183841017
>nigger
You might as well start using a trip because everyone who frequents here can make your salty ass out. You know that right?
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>>183841754
i thought he was trolling at first, but I guess he actually is this mad all the time.

>>183840823
>>183841017
why don't you play a game that makes you less frustrated, mate? please don't call me a nigger or a nig nog, just trying to help.
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Dragunov is so fucking broken holy shit
2 of his best 10 frame strings are safe (what the fuck?)
you can just keep abusing his 1 and throw out a safe, unreactable low (does more damage on ch)
and his wall potential is so fucking good.
I should've switched to Drag sooner, skyrocketed me to grand master
on a side note how come it takes forever to get out of grandmaster? I've been stuck here non stop even tho I've been getting win after win, I'm at a 10 win streak right now and I've got to the point where I dodge everyone who isn't in grandmaster and I STILL haven't ranked up. is ranked broken or what?
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>>183841150
I have about 400 ranked games on Lars and I have only ran into a few others.
I play him pretty risky and aggressive going for crushes non-stop. Works alright for me, will be better once I familiarize myself with more movelists. but you can play him however you want.
Remember to utilize his wall combo d/b+2,1 f+1+3 whenever you can, it does insane damage. and also learn his rage drive combos. They can quite literally take someone from one end of the map all the way to the other and turn a fight asap.
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>>183842149
who were you using before? it took me like 85 games to hit brawler with dragunov and i didnt have to exploit anything you just listed. but its my first tekken game and my back dash is trash, so i eat a lot of shit.
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>>183842685
I used to play Heihachi but I don't really see any point to continue using him in online. He's a great character but not a good online character since people just press buttons. so I'm keeping Heihachi for my locals and tourneys and quickplay, Drag for ranked. I wouldn't be surprised if they nerfed Drag tho
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>>183842149
>grandmaster

Stopped reading
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>>183843110
more like you're too stupid to read the rest
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>>183842149
this happened to me once and I ended up getting like three promo matches in a row, just keep playing. if you deserve to rank up then it'll inevitably happen.
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>>183843284
>Calls someone stupid
>Can't get passed grandmaster

What did he mean by this
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>>183843405
>he's still too stupid to read the rest
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>>183843079
honestly i just condition people to low block by either doing F+23 or F+14. they require an oldschool true break, so a lot of shitters just eat them. if they start pushing buttons, i start getting ch qcf+3. then finally when they start blocking low as i sprint up to them, i qcf+4 and extend it into the extra throw for like 50 damage. i havent had to rely on any of his superior frame data honestly, just reads.
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>>183833846
>kazuya easier than devil jin
don't know about that senpai
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>>183843387
It's been 2 days and still no promo
Constant wins and hardly any loses, I just want to get to yellow mang
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>>183843845
>he thinks ch df2 pewgf is not only necessary but makes the character
get out TMM
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jesus christ
>this kills the Xiaoyu
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>>183844372
Ryona is god fetish
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How can anyone have fun with Kazumi? Seems like you have to use like the three same moves
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>>183844114
Kazuya has a 15f df1 a bad 13f mid poke, bad high crush, bad low crush, no easy 15f launch punish, worse tracking, worse hellsweep, worse notation for demon's steel pedal, worse mids, worse lows, less damage especially in the open field, more reliant on electrics, more reliant on mind games, more reliant on wavedash

Kazuya is harder than DJ no questions
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>>183844752
"muh waifu
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>>183844752
Because fighting games generally have you always doing the same moves all the time, its just the application of it per opponent per match. And while her movelist is small she's still an effective, fun to play poke heavy rush down for me.
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>>183845018
>worse hellsweep
what is Heihachi
>worst tracking
that's every Mishima you dunce
>bad low crush
like every Mishima
>no easy 15f launch
>wanting to be easy with a Mishima
>worse mids and lows
>More reliant on electrics and mind games
t. 17er
Kazuya is literally the EASIEST Mishima to play
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>>183844752
Well welcome to Mishimas, she is the light version without the fun stuff so they gave her useless tigers and a shoryuken.
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Playing a mishima is suffering. Im gonna stick with it but it sucks fighting characters with no execution just knowing they get so much off a simple button plus direction press
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>>183845983
they're definitely up there with some of the hardest fighting game characters of all time.
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>>183845983
You still get the best sound effects and everybody will respect you atleast.

Or just say fuck it and be a cheap cunt and rule greens with DJ, won't get you any further though.
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>>183845353
So clearly u lack some reading comprehension. I was comparing Kaz and DJ. Hei is irrelevant in this discussion.

Kazuya indeed as a worse hellsweep than DJ. It has worse tracking and DJs is a real launcher on nh that can lead to 70+ damage.

>Tracking
Yeah Mishima's have bad tracking but in comparison to DJ kazuyas is worse. For example DJs electric will track stepping slightly without dashing, kazuya needs a dash electric to catch stepping.

That is only one example. DJs tracking with his other moves are superior to kazuyas who has almost zero tracking.

>Mishima's have a bad low crush.

Not true. In comparison to DJ and Kaz. DJ has u4 which is a pretty solid low crush and it launches, he has can-cans which also launch, and his uf4 is pretty good. Safe low crush with good Oki after it. This is getting off topic but heihachi's uf4 is pretty good low crush and his uf3,4 is s! On normal hit.

The no easy 15f launch was in reference to DJs can-cans. Which for example u see law do d2,3 and u block it instead of an electric which can get tricky u can do d3+4 so in essence it's easier.

His mids compared to DJ is a lot worse. DJs df1 is great. His df4 is decent. Ff2 is great ws1,2 bf2,1,2 etc all of this stuff passing kazuya who's only good mids are df2 and ff4. Ff3 is okay but u need to wavedash to use it as it has no tracking.

You sound like you don't play mishima. Every person I know at locals agree kazuya is the hardest mishima and I believe this is the general consensus in the tekken community as well

If u have real points as to why DJ is harder than Kaz I'll be happy to argue
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>>183846428
Kazuya is definitely the coolest looking mishima
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>>183846428
Not even gonna read past the 70+ hellsweep. The scaling is so intense you do not get that much.
Why do kazuya mains have auch an intense victim complex?
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>>183846667
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Now that dodging is getting removed from PC soon, should I learn Eddy?
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>>183846667
>Not gonna read my post/reply to any points I made as to why Kaz is harder to play than DJ
I see. So this is 4chan tekken discussion.
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>>183846827
>with wall
also good fuckin luck pulling off the tight timing on the fist while online
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>>183844752
I don't play many Kazumis, but when I do they all seem to mash jabs up close. And then dash away and dash back in with that low
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>>183846870
Eddy, King, or fucky chloe
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>>183846428
Not him but you're listing reasons why Kazuya is lower tiered, not necessarily why he's more difficult. DJ is more difficult because he has more to utilize. Kazuya is pretty straight forward, it's just his execution can be demanding in some of the more advanced stuff. Which is the same for all mishimas.

>>183846667
Wall damage counts too
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>>183846827
>wall ender

I'm all for saying Kaz is harder than DJ but this just makes you look like a faggot.
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A character being worse does not make them harder fyi
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>>183846935
i mean it's a wall combo but it's starting from neutral and i'm not saying it's easy to pull off but it does prove that DJ can get 70+ off hellsweep in neutral.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zYFE7DVbMU&index=19&list=PL78EDC64B27BC65CC
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>>183847147
kazuya is still harder to play and win with than djin in my opinion. assuming your execution is equal djin just has more tools.
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Does it really matter who is more difficult?
If you play hei, kaz or DJ you are a baller
>>
I only play dishonest characters and I am proud.
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>>183847313
not DJ because DJ looks like a real lameo
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>>183847313
Truth
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>>183847313
What if I play Eliza
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>>183847402
there is no such thing, people here are retards for believing these memes.
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>>183847437

Neck yourself.
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>>183847437
You're a waifushitter. Which is ok, but just know that you're a BITCH.
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>>183847226
>meme music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CaTi4cOS2s
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>>183847437
at least you dont play ling
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>>183847528
>>183847532
S-sorry that playing someone without a penis makes me a waifu shitter
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>>183847485
what if i only play Tall Paul
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>>183847640

Sorry I didn't mean it.
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>>183847560
it was just what I was thinking when those fags were arguing which Mishima has the toughest life.
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>>183847640
as long as you realize
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>>183847427
DJ has some good customization options
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>>183840134
You can transition into a stance, but I don't think you can go to neutral on hit.
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>play ranked
>win, lose, get absolutely destroyed, still have a good time regardleds
>lose a promo match
>get fucking super pissed screaming obscenities in my room for 30 seconds

why do promo matches elicit such a reaction out of me
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>>183847643
Woah, is that a fucking KOF reference?

Anyway, general reminder, the real bane of Pauls demoman is retards getting in range when facing Pauls that aren't above yellow, therefore exactly knowing what they do movement wise,
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Any basic pointers on how to get started with Lee?

I havent landed a single FF3 after a WS2,3 online so far. Shit's tight.
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>>183847986
you are an idiot that thinks those ranks mean shit in the long run.
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>>183848139
holy shit pokes are so unrewarding in this game on non-ch.
>>
Fuck this game and everyone who plays it
>>
What's a good win to rank ratio for blue and green ranks? I got to green in 40 wins with my main but I've seen 400+ win people in blue and green ranks.
>>
Based main man

https://youtu.be/w7bBYTKbwoE
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Reminder that if you don't play honest characters you're not a winner
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>>183848520
Well it's a "poke"
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>>183848604
/r/ing list of 'Honest Characters'
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>>183848535

FUCK YOU
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>>183848576
>holy shit she spams shit at me REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>let me just spam one move in return, It's ok when I do it.
I mean spammers are fair game and deserve everything they get, but still.
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>>183848604
t. 500 win light blue
>>
cd4 1+4 2 ub+2s! f,f+3,1,f,f b+1,2

How the fuck do you get the b+1,2 to connect in this devil Jin combo? I might drop this character, fuck I'm sick of the dash up ff. Does Hehachi have any gay shit in his combos before I go and try him next? Any micro dashes? Any stupid dash up FF? Fuck.
>>
Josie is honest
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>>183848667
poke characters used to be so fucking good though. top tiers were either mishimas and poke focused chars or just poke focused chars. now if that poke doesn't guarantee some shit on ch or lead into good oki from the ch, it does so little for you.
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>>183848856
That Ling player could have just reacted arcordingly but he choose to spam his program, thats the lesson here.
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>>183849012
she's honestly my wife
>>
anyone know of any good lili guides?
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>>183849101
Look at top tier players though, they do nothing but poke each other till one of them drops his spagetthi and gets launched for it.

It was always like that.
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>>183848604
better learn to throwbreak scrub, once they remove dodging im gonna tombstone your ass into the ground.
>>
Please answer all the questions above. Thanks.
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>>183849012
honestly unga
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>>183848856
U know df4 on block is -9 so immediately it's your turn and if u can bait the full df4,4 u can just launch it it's -15

That ling player was so fucking brain dead he didn't even want to think about baiting out his df4 then adjusting from there.

VERY typical Xiaoyu tho. Ranked usurper and doesn't even have enough knowledge that a green mishima would have... Completely carried by character
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what are the odds of Tekken 7 getting a replay feature being added in
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>>183849012
She's honestly a cocksleeve
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>>183849467
I'll let you know after you buy the season pass..
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>>183848576
Has he ever fought an Eliza? Does he complain as much as Jae does?
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>>183849328
sure, but they're playing characters like feng or heihachi or dragunov, who are notorious for having amazing counter hit tools and frame trap reward. we do see jack and some hwoarang, but i personally feel like that's more of a tournament setting thing. then again, steve is back on the come-up, so i could just be wrong and bad. but i never felt limited or not rewarded enough while poking in 6 or tag 2.

like, i see taisei play steve and he's just doing lots of ALB 2 or ALB d+2 in neutral and tries to fish for CH up close as usual. but he never wins rounds when he doesn't get a few counter hits. if he manages to hit lots of non-CH pokes, he still just loses the round. i think the only handful of chars that win cleanly off pokes and are strong in t7 are hwo, shaheen, jack, and kazumi, and the latter two i think pretty exclusively in tournament settings.
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>>183848903
Please respond. I know that their are high IQ mishima players in here. Help a brother out.
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>>183850359
I mean if you're going to just poke that's the playstyle you're choosing. It's low risk.
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>>183848126
i'm going to inevitably climb to a rank where demoman just stops working, and enjoying it while I can.
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>>183850941
not when movement is a thing, sidesteps and walks in particular. one errant df+1 and you get hit with the classic SSL df+2 and you lose. not to mention cornerstones of poking, jabs, are high and linear, meaning there are two ways to launch punish them (duck > launch or SS > launch) if the opponent so chooses.
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New Tekken player, what is a optimal way to practice this game? I love grinding the lab and would like to know some advice to practice efficiently.
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>>183850941
low risk low reward is the good ol' Korean way
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>>183849916
don't ask me for shit
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>>183851382
slam 22 slices of sweet pie at the CiCi's and then come talk to me
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>>183851382

Infinite numbers of ways to practice. What do you feel like practicing at the moment? Your combos, throw breaking? Punishment?
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>>183851540
CiCi's is gross
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The spooky ghost is the best possible item and you should equip it everywhere it's allowed.
It doesn't interfere with combat and it's adorable.
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>>183851662
how does one 'break throws' ???????
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>>183851737
press 1, 2, or 1+2. depending on the throw.
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>>183851726
what about nemo?
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>>183851726
Nemo is also a good choice, but it's not as happy looking.
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>>183851662
Movement and Combos atm
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How do I do the low counter/throw?
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>>183851961
>>183851906
Whoops, bad reply. I'm not retarded, I swear. I'm retarded
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>>183851361
Which is why you condition your opponent to stop sidestepping and keep them fearful of mids so they don't duck. Obviously poking can be dealt with, but if that's your style you need to get better at it. I don't see any Kazumi players crying about poking being too hard.
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>>183851726
[violently shakes]
I use the ghost on Raven, it's cute seeing it fly around the stage trying to keep up.
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gimme your best rushdown characters
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>>183851980

Well, for movement I recommend just getting the hang of all the movement options in the game if you're the newest of new. Just dash forwards and backwards, learn the difference between sidesteps and sidewalks. Dash blocking. Then, you can learn Backdash cancels once you're comfortable.

As for combos, you can just look at the OP for your characters combos, you don't have to come up with your own combos, but you could if you want.
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>>183852228
look at the character overview fool
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>>183852292
just wanna know other peoples unpopular opinions
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>>183851984
Low parry? Press down+forward the moment the low would connect
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>>183852674
Shut up
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Wanna learn Steve, what should I know going into trainning mode with him?
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DORYA
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>>183852881
he has a lot of stances
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>>183852228
Nina, Hwo and Steve. Maybe Law and Heihachi too.
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>>183852041
well, yeah, all her pokes have really, really good tracking. it's the same with jack players, they won't complain because their pokes reach super far so backdashing doesn't help all that much and he has a 15f low with good range.

all i can really attribute it to is that scaling change. it used to be 120% grounded in 6 and 135% in tag 2 and in this game, it's 100%. you have to make so many correct reads and make sure you have the right idea about your opponent (being stubborn/not conditionable so you do the same thing over and over vs playing 1 step ahead in a similar situation) immediately or much more often because you die in 2 combos.

just feels way easier to play mishimas, for example, in this game than before since you win in 2 launches, effectively, and their main launcher is safe/part of their pressure. and they're supposed to be the hard characters. it's probably just that i'm not a high level player.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT6YYsNJL3s

Does this mean that Akuma was always planned to be part of Tekken 7's storyline.
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>>183852041
also, sidestepping is pretty low risk, so conditioning a good player to stop stepping in a lot of situations is really hard if they know to SS block unless you "frame trap" the side step with a fast move that tracks in that direction, and even then it's that specific situation they won't try to step in that particular direction in, so it's iffy in that sense.
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>>183852881
b+1
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Learning KBD is eating up half my time playing this game.
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>>183848139
That's just painful to watch.
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>>183852881
d/f1,(2,1)~b~f3 dck f2~f ext dck1 s! d/f1+2

learn this shit by heart, this is your most important bnb and if you don't do this with 100% consistency you will suffer from having literally 0 combos over 55-ish damage

learn it hard and learn it well
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>>183852674
anyone who whines about Paul is a big fucking baby
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>>183852881
any stance that can be cancelled into duck can be cancelled into back sway and both left and right weaves. duck is just preferred because it is instant high crush and lets you block/recover earlier than usual by holding db during it. once you figure out the spot where he stops moving, you can then hold db and slide to back at that same point to block mids in time.

if ever you can cancel a move into flicker stance, do it. always. you can always immediately block in flicker so long as you're holding back (and holding back is how you transition into flicker anyway), and it cuts the recovery of the move by a lot due to the stance transition, and his flicker pokes are really useful.
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>>183852674
i think hwoarang is bar none the best. no one even comes close besides nina with absolutely consistent perfect execution.
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>>183853932
Wtf that's not even right the screw is in the wrong place also that combo is quite advanced

Just do launch df12~1b flk1d1 s! df1+2 if u get w! Do df1+2 again.
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who else might I like if I liked playing alisa the best so far?
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>>183854989
Ling,Lili,Chloe,MRaven maybe eddy
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>>183854989
melty blood
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>>183848903
>>183850917

>cd4 1+4 2 ub+2s! f,f+3,1,f,f b+1,2
That shit is too high difficulty and not optimal at all.
Try these:

CD+4, 1+4, 2, b+2,3 S! Heaven's door (41 dmg)
Easy peasy, good damage.
S! 2, f+3+4 or S! b+2+3 for wall-carry.

CD+4, d+2, ws+1,4 S! f,f+3,1~ff b+1,2 (46 dmg)
Personal favourite

HOWEVER, d+2 will only connect if CD4 lands at point blank range.
The trick to landing the whole ender after the S! is to not dash towards the opponent right away. Wait a few milliseconds for their legs to come down from out of the air, making the opponent's hurtbox closer to you and in range so that the whole ender can hit.

CD+4, EWGF, 2, b+2,3 S! f,f+3,1~f,f DEWGF
Only try this if you're Korean
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>>183855823
Thanks so much dude.

>CD+4, d+2, ws+1,4 S! f,f+3,1~ff b+1,2 (46 dmg)
This also never works on Ling, right?
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>>183855823

>CD+4, d+2, ws+1,4 S! f,f+3,1~ff b+1,2

Holy shit I'm stealing this.
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>>183856297
>This also never works on Ling, right?

Correct. Ling is too good in T7.

>Holy shit I'm stealing this.
Be ready to practice the timing on that f,f+3. It's really weird. Mess around with it doing it earlier/later until you get the whole ender to land.
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I see a Devil Jin once in a blue moon but it's a guarantee that every time I do play one I end up pissed off. He has fucking everything.
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>>183848139
Don't bother with ws2,3 int ff3. Just do ws2,4 and go for a mixup.
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What's considered a decent rank in this game?

This is the first FG I've played and I'm a greenie at the moment
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Nothing makes me fucking angrier in this game to have a close match and get meme'd by some fucking gimmick and lose. Shit makes me furious.
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>actually losing to blues while learning Yoshi
this is embarrassing
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>>183857205
>He has fucking everything.
Facts.

Pokes, from all ranges

Good lows

Keep out tools

+ on block moves

50/50s

Panic moves

Pressure

Unseeable sweep into combo

He's got just about everything and probably has no real weakesses
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>>183857205
why is he so rare? i think I've played against like one in the 200 or so matches I've played.

i see yoshi and bears more than DJ.
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>>183857205

So, we've moved from hating Drag, Leo, Josie and Ling to Devil Jin now?
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>>183857752
Deadass, every time I play a Devil Jin I put my fucking hands up in the air every time I see some new shit that he has for no fucking reason at all. I literally find something new everytime that I play against him that I roll my eyes at. He's a lowkey obnoxious character, glad all the people who use them are in orange and shit and I don't have to deal with him much in Yellow.
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Has anyone gone against some guy named XZ on PC that plays Akuma? Somehow he is a yellow rank but he literally ONLY uses fireballs, sweep, a punishable target combo, a regular grab, dive kick, and tatsu. He is shit, and he doesn't use them smart either, he just fucking mashes, does random supers. How does this shit happen?
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>>183857979
Easy. Dodges players and gets lucky with the ones he does play.
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What's the best staple combo for Miguel?
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>>183857979
Because nobody knows what the fuck Akuma does and when they figure it out it's too late. You'll find tons of people who gimmicked their way to Yellow.
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>>183857979
>press d+4 on Akuma
>free ride to yellow ranks
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>>183857892
He is slightly technical. This scares away scrubs, also people are perhaps scared to be labeled an "edgelord" for playing him?
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>>183858113
Low punch launch thing into buttons, armor move into buttons, buttons into + buttons, and low double kick sweeps. Enjoy your free wins.
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>>183857892
He's hideous. The damage he deals to my opponents isn't worth the damage he deals to my eyes.
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>>183857979
that guy just straight up dodges me.
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>>183857892
Because he doesnt rely on dial combos like josie or law
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>>183857701
16 Dan
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Do ps4 controllers work on PC? Every local uses playstations and im using my xbone controller right now.
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are you a fag if you play someone from the S tier?

feels like knowing nothing about those characters and just picking them up for the first time, I do pretty well compared to playing a random low tier character for the first time

but i'm confused because people say tiers dont matter
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>>183858909
Yeah PS4 controllers work fine on PC. It's what I use.
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>Yoshimitsu's lows that look like mids
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>>183858928
Nobody worth talking about gives a shit
and everyone else will bitch at you no matter WHO you play

Stop giving a shit
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>>183859032
Alright thanks man, I'll try and get one used. Hows the D-pad?
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>>183858909
its the only tekken controller don't listen to anyone who says otherwise
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What is even my gameplan as Yoshi? All I'm doing right now is hitting people with b+2,2/b+2,1 and throwing some lows in.
I really don't know what I else should be doing. Seems like anything gimmicky I'll just get jabbed out of.
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For those who have tried both:
For Tekken specifically, have you noticed any comfort difference between bat-top and ball-top sticks?
I know it's basically a meme, but I'm curious to know what the trend is, if there is one.
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>>183858928
Tiers only matter if you're playing Ling because she's the most obvious case of "What the fuck were they thinking" but most if not all of the cast is usable to most degrees. Even Lucky Chloe and to a lesser extent Gigas are playable and popular. A word of warning though, trying to be cool by picking a difficult "High Tier; Sick Plays" character when you're not good at the game will only cause you suffering.

For your and anyone else's sake please show some constraint and patience and shelf the Nina, Hwo, Steve, Kazuya, and Lee for now and come back to play them later when you know what you're doing.
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>>183859321
Fucking with people.
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>>183859042
play yoshimitsu in practice mode
you'll see that its not really that hard to predict once you know how its done
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>>183859153
It's alright, I only have problems when characters have cd type of moves (f, n, d/f), and I want to dash and do a d/f+1, instead I'll get the cd+1, really annoying. But otherwise it's fine.
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>>183859550
I play Akuma so I might be fucked.
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>>183854265
DCK cancels typically don't recover earlier, in most cases you're either left on par with the non cancelled version or between 2-4 frames disadvantaged. There's a handful of moves where it does recover earlier like d/f+2~DCK and 1,2,1,2~DCK so these are important to know.

I've done some heavy testing on his frame data and he's had a couple of changes that benefit his rushdown game. 2,1~f|b and FLK+1,d+1 jail once again, for example.
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>>183859385
>come back to play them later when you know what you're doing.
When am I proficient enough to play Nina
I'm warrior on my main
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>its another "run up grab on a 1 bar" episode
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>>183857979
he should be getting close to 1000 matches right? he'll have a good long fall at some point
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>>183859873
When you come to terms with the fact that if you have the technique and execution to play Nina that you'd probably be better off playing any Mishima. Nina is strong, but sadly she feels similar to Lee in that all their dedicated mains that have played them for years are frusterated with their place in the new gen and are either thinking about switching characters or have already done so.

Name an actually good Nina player that would have even a chance of placing in a major. Dioxin? And even that is questionable.
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>just want to play early tekken jin
>get called a tier whore and an edge lord
Woe is me
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>>183805470
>went from learning Drag to Kazuya after being stuck on a GM slump for ages
>got to GM within 30 wins because hellsweeps really work wonders
>still learning to do them and tfw no (EW)GFs consistently under pressure
>DF2s for days

This lad is fun as fuck even if I haven't got my sanic wavedashing down on pad yet
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what characters would someone coming from MKX/Injustice enjoy?
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>>183859873
Not him but I've found that overall knowledge doesn't really translate over to specific character stuff. I'm way better at Tekken 7 now than I was a month ago, but I'm only good at playing the characters I play already(i have a few in yellow ranks).
I recently picked up Kazuya and had literally no idea how to properly do an electric or combo effectively with him, and it wasn't easy learning how to.
The only thing that I can say has universally helped me is my knowledge of other characters. So no matter who I'm playing I can go "ok i can punish that move with a 12 frame" or "\that's launch punishable". Knowing when to block, when to punish, general movement, etc, is important. But I don't think any of that is going to help you learn iWS+1 combos with Nina.
So I don't think it matters.
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>>183860661
You ever tried playing for fun? Jesus dude, nobody here is going to win evo, relax.
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>>183861098
Nobody in tekken is that low iq. Josie, law and leo have many canned strings so they might fit what you want
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>>183861298
>Forgetting paul
I literally taught my smash friend how to play him in like 10 mins if that. (This isnt a diss to paul btw he's just very easy to pick up)
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>>183861432
Fair enough. I did actually forget.
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>>183861191
Well, if you're the type to want to pick up Nina, Kazuya, Lee, Hwo ect you're probably not wanting to play for "fun" you PROBABLY want to be a special snowflake and look cool for playing an uncommon technically demanding character. Two types of people fit into this category. People who are serious about that character and understand (Sort of) what kind of commitment through better or for worse comes with it. People who don't fit this bill fall into the second category and either drop them when they realize they're too hard and that they weren't really about it in the first place or use them in a suboptimal "Cheat" way a.k.a the "No EWGF ever hellsweep spamming wannabe Kazuya" who never will get better.

I'm not trying to come at anyone, I'm just letting you know.
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I would just like to say good job everyone. We are succesfully ignoring dumb shit tripfags
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>>183824108
No unseeable launchers
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Why the hell did they not give DJ his wingless outfit? Fuck sake
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Which Tekken girl has the best feet?
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>>183861894
How bout fuck off
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>>183861982
I will fuck off when you tell me what Tekken girl has the best feet!
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>>183862031
Gigas
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>>183861894
They all look pretty much the same because it's a video game. But I will say tekken's are much better looking than Street fighter has ever designed. They must use gorillas as a reference when they make models.
But uhhh Eliza I guess ?
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So when will they add this character so I can get to Green within 20 wins?
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>>183810179
heihachi and kazuya will be permanent fixtures in flashbacks and kept in the game anyway tb
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>>183861191
>>183861628
Also, as an aside, you probably wouldn't pick up any of those characters if you want to just play for "fun" in the conventional sense because if that were the case you'd play any other simple character that's easy to pick up and easy to win with like Paul, Claudio, and Josie or some shit.

Winning is "Fun" and I can tell you as a Mishima main for years that with any of those "High I.Q"/ High Execution characters it's gonna be a long ass time before you start winning, seeing true fruits of your labor, and finally reaching optimal or effective play. Know what isn't "Fun"? The weeks, months, and years of lab work that comes with a hard character and also the frustration of improving and lastly the coming to terms with losing to simplistic characters with clear cut gameplans and easy execution. Nothing makes you doubt being a new Kazuya main on the block faster than losing to some generic Paul using less than 5 or 6 moves.
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>>183862535
Oh boy it's going to be King all over again.
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>>183862031
Shut up you thirsty fuccboi stoner perverb. Don't talk to me.
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>>183862624
Please stop posting
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>>183810336
>new diversity mishima
What did he mean by this?
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>>183861191
Fuck off. Watch me be the one to beat the Koreans.
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>>183861894
Eliza has the best everything.
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paul is the most honest character in the game
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>>183863146
If your character can launch punish him for death fist.
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Is there a way to make rarer items you don't have appear in Treasure battle? I have been cheesing out the AI with Eliza for days yet I still can't get Lili and Kazumi's bikini top and Akuma's sumo shit. All the special battles just give me shitty hit effects for characters I don't play. There's only so much more of this I can take.
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Is Yoshi even a human?
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>>183863668
2000 fights gets you everything for every character excluding Eliza.
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>>183861191
speak for yourself.
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>>183842149
>skyrocketed me to grand master
thanks for a kek mate
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>>183863668
Not 100% positive on this but I feel like you start getting rarer items with longer win streaks.
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>>183851271
Demoman never stops working, you just have to put them against the wall first
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>>183863670
He's human but has body modifications
https://youtu.be/OpQOso5DJCU?t=46

That was Tekken 2 and I think he regularly gets 'upgrades' from Dr. B.
but he should still be mostly human under his crazy outfits.
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king and anyone who plays him can fucking go back to where they came from
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>>183864414
That game was pretty fun desu
good times
i dont like king, i want armor king
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>>183864136
It more has to do with my the sword possessing him, literally burning his arms to the bone and Dr B having to replace them with cybernetic arms.

Now why Yoshimitsu looks like that in Tekken 7 is a mystery.
He is supposedly shirtless here meaning some shenanigans happened
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>>183864414
I was actually way into wrasling back in the day but I don't like playing King. I always end up mispressing all command grab inputs with my dainty fucking thumb. He's still a pretty cool character though.
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>>183858559
Same, but i switched characters and he didn't realize it was me. To my dismay he still played the same. It honestly scares me to think there are people who are ok with themselves playing like that.
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PS4 or Xbone controller for akuma
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>>183865327
Sega Genesis controller
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Why does TMM constantly sound like he's going to cry?
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>tfw your main is bad

God dammit Kazumi everyone learns your tricks after one set!
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>>183857979
its what happens when you let dragon ball z characters into a fg with realistic physics
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>>183865601
He doesn't.
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>>183865643
t. TMM
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>>183865627
>tfw your main is bad but you can compensate for it by being good but you're also bad
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>>183865601
He just really loves mishimas. It makes him emotional.
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>>183865732
Excellent post.
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>try to play hard character that requires execution
>get frustrated
>switch to Katarina and shit out damage for nothing
Lol why didn't I do this from the start
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>>183866190
Because there is enjoyment in learning difficult characters
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What are the best rushdown characters? Other then Josie
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I'm jumping back into Tekken after a bit of a hiatus; who are the characters you guys most commonly come across playing online?
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>>183866995
Hwoarang
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>>183867130
Guess I'll learn him. I play more of a turtle character and I'm tired of having people just press buttons in my face
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What if Harada added tag mode to tekken 7
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i REALLY like devil jin
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>>183866995
Lili.
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>>183867772
huh? what lili moves can she rushdown with?
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>>183867741

Welcome to the club.
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asuka is too powerful
you get hit once with anything and you just lost half your life guaranteed or your money back
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Can Kazumi not do the low parry?
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>>183868489
so you're telling me, i can pick up asuka, and do 50% combos with ease? Why didn't anyone tell me!
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>>183868571
Nope
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>>183868653
WHAT THE FUCK

WHY
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so does gigas have any moves that dont put him + on block?
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>>183865327

PS4 if you ever plan to play somewhere outside your house
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>>183868715
Stop acting like a retard anon.
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Yeah. I can't beat anyone 2-0 with Kazumi anymore.

Fuck this I'm just going to make a roulette wheel and put some characters down so I can pick a main
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>the tekken gods have smiled upon me, I've finally reached yellow
>instantly get demoted to vanquisher
>I'm not going to bed until I get it back
>instantly demoted to fighter
>mfw I'm actually still playing
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New thread

>>183869106
>>183869106
>>183869106
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>>183869092
Another Kazumi main here. In comparison with everyone else, I'd say she sucks desu. But I'm juts gonna keep at her since I'm already in yellow with her and a waifu fag
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Hey fellow Jinfags, switched to stick today, will take a while to adjust but can pull of most of the moves and starting to wavedash again

The move I struggle with the most on stick though is dash into db 2, 2, 3

I always end up doing a crouch jab, I can't adjust from the dash forward into downback, any advice?
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>queue in ranked
>its a paul
>the worst imaginable outfit
>1 bar connection
>uses ray gun

What was your worst experience of the day, anons?
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>>183868715
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
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