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Let me play you the song of my people, edition

Previous thread >>183524636

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Armored Core:
http://pastebin.com/Ek3kMtZW
http://pastebin.com/WSq32Amg
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/armoredcorevg

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
https://clanjadewolf.net/mwll/
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/416020

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://bombdogstudios.com/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

Cram in completely unbalanced civil era tech here:
https://mwomercs.com/civil-war

Stab your spear you filthy tribal:
https://mwomercs.com/javelin

How to start MWO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imffSrJ4O7s

New Player's Guide to MWO (aka the Manual):
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg

Group Mumble Info:
kong.stepoff.com
port:7777
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Guys Lao Hu when?
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first for declaring this the one true kong general
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>>183704104
Second.
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Where is whispers, my main man at?
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>look at /gerg/
>nothing but shitposting
>look at /mwog/
>every single post is about the game
hmm
bye gerg
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With all the heroes on sale, which would be the top three recommendations to get?
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X-Pulse when? I want to do retarded shit the same way I can do it now with racs.
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How do I get started in MWO?

Which mechs are good? Is it possible to play well with a HOTAS stick?
What makes light mechs viable?
Pic unrelated
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>>183704781
Scorch, Misery and Wang.
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>>183705125
>left hand gun arm
Wait a minute...
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>>183704961
>Is it possible to play well with a HOTAS stick
m8
>What makes light mechs viable?
speed and too little or too much attention towards them
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r8 my supernova
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=512&l=b25902e8d1dd263cd5f877ceb1828c928d131042

original desing please do not steal
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Who Rifleman here?
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>>183706751
Don't you mean Destroid Defender?
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Is clam the shitmech faction now?
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>>183706751
My Raifuman looks nothing like the advertisement.
I want a refund.
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>>183706965
clams still op, my xl lrm king crab still can get killed
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whats the best mech to use stelth armor on?
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This game is the proof human rights shouldnt exist. Fucking every match, doesnt matter what the fuck i do and how much damage but the fucking incest crack baby potatos cant play this fucking game and theyre always on my fucking team every single time and every map is fucking niggershit and all the gamemodes are trash and my teammates cant stop eating shit and the matchmaking cant stop eating shit and piggy's broken game cant stop eating shit
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Why is it that it's always shitters that complain about others being shit?
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>>183708225
Were you with dashing in a match?
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>>183708225
fuck off pardo
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>'oh boy oh boy I can't wait to try out this new brawling build'
>shitpine heaps
Faggots gassed when?
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you see this, what do?
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>>183708354
There should be a holocaust for fucking braindead aidsretards who play online teamgames and have ten times the rating they deserve and do nothing but suck rotting aidscocks and feed fucking nonstop, piggy's trashmaking makes me eat fucking shit every fucking match with people who should be in tier 6
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>tfw will never get another KongKast with Chim, Vass and a LaserAngel talking shit about consistently minimally viable piggy patches

This is truly the darkest timeline
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>tfw tier 1 will forever remain garbage
>tfw not only is it a glorified exp bar but it also fill your group with tier 5 if you wait long enough for a match
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>>183704961
Lights are viable for the reasons heavies and assaults are not. Lights are made for GOING FAST, actively supporting the team (spotting, flanking, flagcapping, reinforcing a side, ambushing, etc), and/or ganking enemy lights/meds, heavies/assaults, or already crippled mechs. Lights are also very dangerous when operating in a group, and can quickly take down mechs much heavier than they are.

If the enemy devotes focus to you and you can't slip away quickly enough, you will die very quickly. But if you can avoid attention long enough, or they decide that you're less of a threat than your team mates, you can rip into them
>mfw heavies and assaults ignore my Mist Lynx and let me plow their asses.
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permaspinup script for racs where?
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>>183709473
Outpace the fuck out of you since I'm doing 140kmph and have 4 HML for that delicious ass of yours
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>>183710736
>implying you wouldn't be toast the moment you poked your ass out on the grid
>implying my main man whispers isn't guarding my butt
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What's the best murm platform.
Preferably on the nimble side.
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>>183711750
commando 2d
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>>183713418
ook merci pour ta contribution
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>>183709681
tier literally does nothing
there literally is no matchmaking, just matching weight classes

both have been confirmed by devs
get with the times
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>>183711750
This one is even better than the Centurion
Modify LFE weight to taste, and enjoy the ballistic velocity and missile quirks

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=111&l=17de0d3525e8849433cd869056da5554175976b7
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>>183713556
best meme build
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=5&l=f395b264350158aa4a53fcdfc287a02c350fd8b8
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>>183715382
it doesn't even have 10 heat sinks, check yourself fool
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>>183715506
sorry kakos-senpai

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=5&l=93d9f45eb4cfd4f776f913311a5fdf686b32215b
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>all these ballistics
>none of them useful for the mauler
rip
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What will happen on the inevitable day when they release Hatamoto-Chi
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>>183716505
Everyone will jump on the bandwagon and play it til it gets nerfed, and then say it's useless until it gets quirked, and then say its the best thing ever again.
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why is everyone calling me kakos and kaelus recently? i'm not even in kong
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>>183715723
>try to be a dank meme man and put RACs+normal ACs on a mauler to take advantage of having the tonnage and slots to pair the really hot cannons with the most heat-efficient normal weapon
>it's still too hot
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>>183716874
Whatever you say Kakos
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>>183716874
>i'm not even in kong
hi kaelus
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>>183717081
the saddest part is that a medium with two rac5s will deal more DPS than a mauler with 4 uac5s
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>>183717081
It's always going to be too hot since RAC5s take anywhere between 10 to 25 seconds to jam, and unjams in less than 10
What Mech can handle 12 heat per second for 25 seconds, with only 10 extra seconds to cool down between?
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>>183717295
thankfully DPS isn't everything, pinpoint burst is
could you imagine if DPS did matter? everyone would be flying around in LAMs using machine guns, srms and pulse lasers just like in the robotech cartoons
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Why is this build so competent and fun to play?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=163&l=c6a760cde4ba9653b469b27d75e02563f469bffc

It feels like the apex predator of meme lore builds
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>>183718127
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>want to try kitchen sink huelander with ass to mouth missiles
>remember ass to mouth missiles have every drawback of lurms except worse, none of the few advantages, and they require more investment and generate more heat
>go back to making memebuilds with shitteroid tech
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>>183720570
>being this bad
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>>183717450
>dps build
>dps doesn't matter
pgi_googly_eyes.gif
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>>183722000
>best meta builds all have less than 6 DPS except one
>implying DPS is more important than pinpoint front-loaded damage
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I like RAC 5s
but are these strong enough to be competitively viable?
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>>183723664
Probably, considering an urbie with a single weapon can stare down a 100-tonner.
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What's the best small pulse laser light? Was using the locusts but heat is really bad with 5 of em, anything better?
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=53dab2c7865afd7fe232961b648bdaf8d947a490
Any thoughts on this regal crustacean build?
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>>183725745
Jenner IIC-A comes prebuilt for it, if that's still too hot you can take off the jump Jets and shave a few points off the engine

After a certain point you're better off with an Ice Ferret though
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>>183726416
eugh
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>>183726416
Get rid of the RAC, it is too hot for smug. and it needs more weapons in general
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>>183726416
Meme/10

Remove one spinny cannon ammo and use LFE for bigger engine.
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>>183726416
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=d347f2d38e9373a5e23e880353364a784fec266d
?
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>>183724394
>tfw did just that just now though it was a deathstrike instead
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=eace4bd3a270897e9c0fa6e7dc3fe5202a30afc3
?
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>>183729160
Memey, but you're gonna be doing fuck-all for damage with that. You'll die from CT damage first.
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>LRM's are bad
>HSL's are bad
>you are bad
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>>183730096
lrms are bad and so are you
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I think clan ERPPC's should be capped at 12, not 10.
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>>183730096
>Look /gerg/, I finally managed to be useful for once
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wtf is up with queue times in qp recently?

retarded robodads fail games faster than matchmaker finds one.
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>it's a third of your team is already dead and half of the enemy team is fresh assault mechs -episode
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What is your top 3 hero mechs? With the 50% discount I'm in need of another hero mech to decide whether I'm IS or Clan. Currently for the clan side I have a DWF and the spirit bear. For the IS I have a BJ, Stalker, Grid Iron, and my favorite locust. Suggestions?
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>>183733049
mfw FP is horrible but QP is bad too
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Is the flamer nova headshot build viable or is it a bad meme?
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>>183730672
>once
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>>183734598
it's a meme, but a fun one to be sure
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I think I'm going to call double gauss hits "snakebites". Hearing that "plink" sound is terrifying, hearing two "plinks" is pants shitting.

That is kind of how they work too, in the heat of the moment you don't always notice gauss hits, but you sure as hell do when you're side torso explodes.
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>>183733985
Top dog, high roller, misery
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>>183733985
ghillie
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>>183736272
>High Roller
I like my BushRACker and old AC5/AC10 setups but I couldn't find any builds that the a High Roller offered better quirks or hardpoints for
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>>183733985
I own the Scorch and it just plain gets work done. It farms like a fucking champ. I was feeling down in the dumps about owning a Pakhet and a Warrant hero (huntsman & timberwolf) until ATM's landed. I use the stock 8/8 on the Pakhet with 3 medium pulse, 2 ATM 9's. The Warrant has 6 medium pulse, 2 ATM 6's. Both do really well now as ATM's reward more mobile mechs for hanging tough in the 120-350 range envelope.

I think if a gun was put to my head and someone said "buy an IS hero" it would be either the Dragon Flame hero (280 LFE, AC 20, medium laser x4, ATM 10) or the Marauder Bounty Hunter hero.
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>>183736765
Rac5 roller is about making mad money, nothing more.
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>>183736765
2 RAC5, 4ERSL, LFE 250 or something similar.
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"MONGO" the Mauler
Dual LBX-10s
Dual ERLL
Quad SRM4's
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>>183739716
"BUBBA" the Mauler
Dual Gauss Tits
Dual LPLL's
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>>183739716
I call him MONGO cause all he really wants is a hug
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SCRAPPY the Nova
12 ERSL
4 MG's
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Is a WHM-6R a good mech for general fuckery? Seems like a decent enough design, and has a spread of different slots so you can always play around with what you're rolling with.


Also thinking of getting an Urbs. R60 or R63? I figure R63's better because of the quirks unless you want to run 4xMG.
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>>183741004
>Is a WHM-6R a good mech?
Abso-fucking-lutely.
6R, 6D and black widow are all great.
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What's a good laser boat? Something with 2 large lasers, and 4 medium lasers or something like that. I hate ballistic weapons :/

Was thinking the Nova but the heat seems to be a big issue when using anything other than mediums or smalls
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>>183746009
He, mha boy, let me talk you about our lord and savior:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=280&l=be87ce7249d4fbaddb88cd97d2ed29a7bb6ba6e6
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>>183748764
Sweet mercy, do you want the boy to explode in the first volley?
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What mechs would you love to see added to MWO? Or if you wanna go a bit smaller, a weapon, equipment type, etc?
>melee weapons
>goomba stomping
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>>183753352
>black lanner
>an actual melee attack
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Some in /btg/ over on /tg/ might consider me a heretic, but I'd love to see Dark Age mechs. I just want an Eyrie
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heavy lasers are fucking awful, goddamn
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=240&l=a289ae95e4344e86c1fc1320a453979846eab86b

Reduce armor if you want more ammo, but skills should more than make up for it. Ammo skills really are some of the best things to happen in this game.
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why is no one touching any new IS tech besides RACs and HPPCs?

https://my.mixtape.moe/kpcfbc.webm
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>>183761321
Are you kidding? Everyone in kong tends to agree that the UAC/10 is the best new weapon added.
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>>183762901
i do not agree
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>/gerg/ is so pathetic they need to bump the thread several times from page 11 just to stay alive, even when the general is supposedly about a billion different games
here this one's on me
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>>183762901

>4

>3
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proof that GONK > GONK
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>>183770824
whoops
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>>183771074
who is this doge?
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desu mwo isn't that bad

It's the type of dumb old nigger pig molesters who play it that make it intolerable.

I'm not sure how they even survive in real life. Maybe they are on government assistance, or hooked up to actual machines that sustain them. I simply can't imagine the type of brain dead retards that inhabit quick play and shit it up for everybody else, actually functioning as human beings.

Reminds me of trying to help my boss install something on his computer. He's like 60~ and not very good with technology. There is no excuse to 'not be good with technology' if its your job to use it, but I digress. The man was having trouble clicking on the icons on his desktop.

He said to me, 'they won't click'. I thought maybe the mouse was broken or not plugged in properly, reasonable right? Well I could click on everything just fine, it appeared to be working. I asked him what was happening and to show me so I could fix it.

So he takes the mouse and I tell him to open up a program we use. He swings the mouse pointer around to about an inch away from the icon and furiously clicks on nothing. "See??! It wont click!" he says to me. Incredulous, I tell him to try clicking on the actual icon. He tries a couple more times, clicking everywhere but on the icon itself. "Its broken". he announces. Trying to be respectful, since he's my boss, I explain that the mouse cursor has to be on the actual icon graphic itself, not just nearby, when you click. "Well thats stupid! cant you change it?". No. I can't change it.

Now every time I spectate a spastic pubby shitbird wildly misplacing easy shots mechs at point blank range, I think of my boss clicking around everywhere but on an icon. Old, stupid, slow, fat, brain-damaged nursing home patients that should be in a grave, not publicly shitting themselves. It's so embarrassing and cringeworthy, I really can't even stand it.
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>>183771074
who?
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>>183773091
kakos, I think
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is it just me, or did they make it so that weapons mounted in the arms are always perfectly horizontal?
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>>183774320
neg

i still havent played the civil war patch yet
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Connor-kun is so cool lol
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look, I found a kaelus
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s.m.h kaelus
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>>183774993
>>183775104

is this the power of discordians

s m h

rmmt
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BAKA
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>it's a "river city goes from clear as day to pitch blank cant see shit in two seconds" episode
hate having to adjust brightness and gamma in the middle of a game, good design PGI
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>>183709473
Wait for it to run out of ammo in 10 seconds. Seriously, to make that thing viable you could strip off a bit of armour and add a couple tons of ammo.
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When will Pig add togglable arm lock? I like to change arm lock on different mechs depending on weapon placement, and having to go to the menu every time annoys the hell outta me.
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>>183776928
There is literally a toggle arm lock keybind you retard.
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>>183772162

Hold on, hold on
>srms someone at 300 meters without artemis
So you're
>jams all his UACs on UACboat
You're telling me
>LRMS someone without lock
Telling me i'm
>laservomits in general direction of an enemy
i'm OLD?
>overheats and kills itself
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>>183775878
Guess PGI supposed you to use NV, but greenvision being shit and i can understand your madness.
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>>183772162
Put me in the screenshot
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fuck greg

/mwog/ when
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>>183777638
*autistic screeching over OP "content" literally nobody plays or has talked about in 3+ years*

/acg/ immediately went back to their own general to, makes sense, nobody would want to be a part of this sub-reddit tier shithole
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>>183777213
night time maps in multiplayer games are always bad design, because you get a blatant massive advantage just by turning up the brightness and gamma, something the game can't stop you from doing

that's why no competitive shooter has night maps or has ever had night maps
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>>183778093

several competitive FPS have night maps
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>>183777638
>>183778021
Literally why do you care

Occasionally people post HGA shit and Battletech, and there's nothing lost by not being more encompassing.
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>b-but muh meems
>muh retarded namefag circkejerk
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>>183779540
>and there's nothing lost by not being more encompassing
you lose people looking for a MWO general because they don't find a general for MWO, /gerg/ is just a in-house running joke that has gone too far

you gain nothing from having a shitty ugly bloated ass OP full of irrelevant information of shovelware games, MAV is so dead it was pulled from Steam

why are you even so defensive over this? we all know this is the mechwarrior online general and you can't possibly be so contrarian to actually make yourself believe otherwise
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LISTEN

THIS IS WHAT DRIVES ME NOW, I AM SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING SWITCHING SIDE TO IS NOW

pls r8 build

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=326&l=66af6ae2fb1748b9c7fc7c39e5b238338258a531
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>>183780551
>so defensive
>make one post asking why you want it

Alright anon?

Anyone searching for MWO, Mechwarrior or Mech will find this general because it is in the OP list so I'm not sure what argument you even have here. You seem to be the only one that actually cares about this.

The OP could be cleaned up, fuck knows why the Kong Kast is still there, but we gain nothing by changing back to /mwog/ and lose nothing by staying this way. All it would satiate is your autism.
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>>183780741
We gain a general name in line with it's headline game instead of being named after your furshit mumble buttbuddy for a start.
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>>183780925
Anything else? That's a poor start.

Again, seems like you're the only one being autistic over this for purely personal reasons. People will still find this general if they are searching for Mechwarrior or anything related to it. The actual abbreviations don't mean a thing.
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>>183780741
>general about "mechwarrior online"
>gain nothing from having it named "mechwarrior online general"
you can't be this retarded
when people search the catalogue for "mwo" or "mechwarrior", they don't find a general dedicated for the game, and that's enough to steer some people from looking further
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>>183781075
When people search for "MWO" or "Mechwarrior" this general will be found.
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>defends general being named after some namefag
>calls others autistic
holy shit even vedfaggots aren't that bad
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>>183781135
learn to read
all you get is an empty, hidden result, nothing is highlighted

>b-buh muh special snowflake in-general culture meme name
literally r3ddit mentality right there
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>>183781345
Gee, I wonder where I'd go when I want to talk about MWO?

It must be the indie games general, I bet they talk about MWO there. /gerg/ must not, they talk about giant robots or something, that's definitely not what I'm looking for.
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>>183781518
most people just hit ctrl+f because they know that whatever general they are looking for will be highlighted

anyway, come back when you have any argument against making the general more accessible to people
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>>183781641
What if we don't want it to be accessible to all the FP steamed potatoes around.
If you can't even search right then you're probably one of >>183772162 and definitely not wanted here
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>hurr where will people look for mwo
In /mwog/ of course.

There's literally no reason to keep this general named after your gay lover over it being named after it's main game.
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>>183781641
>most people just hit ctrl+f

I'm curious how you know this. Are you a 4chan admin? Could you perhaps link me to some user surveys at least?

I'm sure you must have something to substantiate that claim.

Even if it's true, why would we want someone who decides to give up on finding a general when they get search results for it?

Come back when you have any argument.
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>>183781884
Did you spend months looking for this general because it wasn't named /mwog/?

Be honest anon.
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>that desperate namefag last stand
>hurr people don't use search when searching i said so
babby clinging to his memes so hard
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>tfw still managed to find my way here a few years ago as I began playing mwo using a single AC2 cicada
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>>183782013
I came here when it was /mwog/.
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>>183782223
You're projecting
This is like complaining that the tekken general is tekgen instead of tg
If it comes up in the search and the inhabitants of said board are ok with it in aggregate then it's fine
Just go and stay go
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>>183782223
>namefag

What did he mean by this?

Just so we're clear, I don't care what the general is named. I don't make the generals, I post here very rarely because there's nothing but retards who think XL Thunderbolts are a good idea posting here. It could be /mwog/, /gerg/, or /braincancer/ and it doesn't make a difference to me.

What bothers me is that you're shitting things up demanding the name be changed against the will of the majority. If people wanted it to be named /mwog/ the /mwog/ thread would have been the one that lived, not this one. You're wasting your own time and effort and have provided no good argument as to the benefits.
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>>183782223
No matter how you slice it, you're the one being an autistic babby here.

>b-but think of the new people who don't know how to navigate a web page!
>I hate greg!
>CHANGE THE NAME REEEEE FUCKING MEMELORDS WHY WON'T ANYONE AGREE WITH ME THAT /GERG/ IS A DUMB NAME REEEEE
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>>183782392
And by board I mean thread
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>>183782392
>projecting
You're misusing that term.

Like I've already said it's absolutely logical to name a general after it's main game and absolutely rerarded ti name it after your i-lover. You're arguing against logic and your tekken example bares no relation to ongoing atgument.

>i don't care about the atgument but i'll post my opinion anyway
And then there's that unbiased outside observer retard.
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>implying majority
Some proofs would be in order then.
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>>183782973
When you make baseless arguments about 4chan users' search habits with your own habits as the basis, you're definitely projecting
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>>183783101
This thread lived.

Where's the /mwog/ thread that was created even before this one was? I can't seem to find it on the general. Surely if people cared about the name they'd have gone to it.

I can pretty much guarantee almost no one in Kong gives a fuck whether it's /mwog/ or /gerg/, and the more you try to force it to happen the more likely it becomes you turn people against you solely to spite your autistic desires.
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>>183783183
Except I dud not, there's more than one person arguing with you belive it or not and implying that people are too retarded to use simple search tools makes you a straw grabbing fucktard.
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>>183783329
>implying samefag bumps ain't real
These proofs prove nothing.
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>>183783479
You're barking up the wrong tree
I was telling the general namechange turboautist this with that post
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>general named after shitposting mongoloid
>not autustic
>general named after it's related game
>REEEEEEEE AUTISTIC DELET THIS
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I see gerg has stepped into the funposting life cycle stage once more

give the threads a month and we'll be down back to the ded stage until something new actually happens
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ITT:
Shitposting: the thread.
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>>183783962
It's time to stop posting
If you're worried about the overall population of mwo then you're better off shilling the game in real life
If you're worried about 4channers not finding the general, then it might just be that anyone who has used the site for a time will know about the filter search included, which will find the general no matter what
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>>183780621
that's not a good build
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Objectively the most fitting name for this general would be "/btg/ - BattleTech General" because the only things we actually discuss are all BattleTech related. This means MWO, BattleTech, MW:LL and any other game in the franchise.

HPG dev shilling his game once every 3 months does not count for discussion, Armored Core people post in their own general and the rest of the games in the OP are actual, literal shovelware that are never mentioned other than by Vass when he brings up Steam player counts.

/btg/ is also not taken somehow, so we should grasp this opportunity while we still can.
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>>183780621
It's too slow for machine guns to be effective and has too little long range firepower to be effective as a heavily armored slow assault
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>>183783962
>caring about the general's name
>not the most autistic thing to be shitposting about

Feel free to keep posting but you've been made to look like a fool already and are only digging a deeper hole.
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>>183784441
Hawken is still alive and got a major update a month ago

KongKast was great and we should get the gang back together
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How's the annihilator?
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Guys is MWO p2w?
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>>183784205
>absolutely nothing touches the main point that naming a general after a in posse namefag over naming it after it's main game is furrafinity tier retardation
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Connor-kun is so cool lol
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>>183784678
A better armored, better hitboxed, IS nutech direwolf
It's k
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>>183784729
You are the only one with a problem with an in posse inside joke
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>>183784557
>y-you baka!

lmao
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>>183784858
>s-samefag!
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>>183784951
>>183785052
Here is your (you)
Now please go
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I'm not going anywhere.
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>>183780621
I run the same bloody thing with backup lasers on my Warhammer. What are you trying to achieve with this build?
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>>183785407
no you don't
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>>183780621
WHERE ARE THE ROCKET LAUNCHERS

YOU HAVE TWO MISSILE SLOTS YOU COULD FILL WITH ROCKET LAUNCHERS

YOU NEED TO COMPLETE THE ICONIC MAULER LOOK
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>>183785506
Mauler is iconic?
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>>183785506
Rocket launchers don't actually bloat the shoulders
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>>183785742
ARE

YOU

FUCKING

KIDDING

ME
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>>183785948
MRM 10s give you the full shoulders for just 7 tons :^)
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>>183785948
wow stop sperging anytime retard
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Dropping some forbidden knowledge on you nerds.

It's that laser vomit Black knight with a vengeance if you're man enough to alpha strike and brawl.
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>>183786778
Why not drop the light probe and strip a little armor from that head and those legs to instead equip a target comp 1
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>>183786778
>What kinda facetime you want?
>I want to put RACs to shame.
>Say no more my man.
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Yeah Im going to go brawl on my ll/ml hellbringer.
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>>183787079
You don't really need the zoom boost or range boost, the light probe increases targeting time more than the targ comp.

The build is focused around sneaking in with your ECM real close like and coring someone with the first alpha, killing with the 2nd.
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>>183787079
>>183787486
It would be better to drop the left arm's actuator and slot in another DHS rather than a TC1.
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>>183787486
>pre-nerf ECM
>sneak
anon...
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>>183787548
It only goes to 60% heat on the alpha to be fair

>>183787575
Sneaky sneaky :^)
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>>183787486

yeah those sneaky hellbringers with 1.2 second laser burn time will getcha
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>>183787486
>ecm
>sneak
>heavy
Pick one
Wouldn't be the first time I noticed an "ecm sneaker" due to the interference on my hud when they got close
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>>183787686
By the time this gets in range to interfere with your HUD you may as well turn around and bend over
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>>183787672
It's less about the capacity and more about the dissipation.
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>>183787784
With those burn times I doubt that sentiment
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>>183787796
Yeah I get you but I've not had a brawl yet where that was an issue except maybe vs assaults, you can take down heavies in like 3 alphas before you get too hot or panic the fuck out of anyone before dissipation comes in.

It works p. well
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>>183787929
Sure, but you really have nothing to lose by doing it. You are nearly maxed on leg armour and 20 head armour is overkill, nor do you need anymore than 1 armour on your right arm. You can easily fit the extra DHS in and don't really sacrifice much of anything to do so.

Seems like a reasonably fun build, I'll probably try it out later.
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>>183788086
I'll try out suggestion, I'm just paranoid about changing it because it's been working so great.
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>>183786778
>>183787473
62 damage alpha with a 1.5 second burn time is nothing to write home about, especially when it heats you to 60% immediately. If you want to do that and not be complete trash, Griffin 2N with 6s, MLs and ECM is what you should be running.
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>>183787929
explain this
>>183771074
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>>183788382
>in the top 25% of his team with 365 damage

Really not much of an insult desu, could've been better but it's not 11 damage.
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>>183788382
Team split up and I was on the side that got nascar'd

Also GONK > GONK
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>>183788472
a firestarter on your team did nearly 900
you have no excuse
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>>183788580
That's not me, I'm just white knighting him. Just saying it's not the most embarrassing performance ever.
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>>183788580
That Firestarter was hilarious, he was just running around a Madcat mk2 and some heavy mech destroying them alone at the end
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should I just sell the gargoyle at this point?
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>>183789214
HUH?
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Question guys, should I keep same omnipods for quirks on my summoner for worse weapon placement (low arms)? Or switch up the pods for less structure and cool down for better weapon placement (side torsos)?
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>>183789937
you should not pilot the summoner instead
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>>183790069
But the Thor is my mechfu ;_;
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>>183789214
It didn't get worse, it was always bad

>>183789937
You should be using the nipple ppcs
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>>183790204
>spl spurdo
>bad
lmao look at this shitter
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>>183790204
Ahh that's what I got. Cool will do
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>>183789214
No, run 6SL 6ML and never look back.
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>>183790310
>deleted from the game lasers
>good on anything
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>>183790589
>it was always bad
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>>183790664
hate to break it to you senpai
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>>183790785
break what?
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>>183790531
>ct mounts
no lol
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>>183790969
What? Those are the best mounts on the Gargoyle you stupid faggot.
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>>183791129
arm lock gives me cancer
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>>183791220
Then don't use it?

Or just do whatever you want since you're apparently brainless anyways.
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>>183791318
1v1 me right now
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>>183791568
I'm not a smelly NEET who sits at home all day so no can do.
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>>183791220
>playing with unlocked arms on anything except mechs that only have arm-mounted weapons or on lurm/streak boats
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>>183791698
you dare refuse my batchall?
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>>183791716
But how else do you wave to people?
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>>183791716
>being such a shitter that you can't aim your torso with unlocked arms
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>>183791829
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>need to save money to make dank builds
>keep buying nu-tech to modify existing builds
help
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>>183792569
>spreading damage with weapons split in torsos and arms
>desyncing your crosshair from the screen with torso-only weapons
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What's your favorite build for taking out components? Atm I love the annihilator with 2 heavy guass and a stub PPC, instant legs on mediums is pretty fun.
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I only play with arms locked since all of my Mechs boat mostly in the torsos.
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how will we celebrate the return of our king, kakos "karlos kaelus kossi" kolos?
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>>183794439
Donate $5 to Autism Awareness
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>>183793586
>desyncing your crosshair from the screen with torso-only weapons
I find that there's actually a benefit to doing this. At range it makes it easier to maintain a steady aim if you have arm lock off, because it smooths out the motion from adjusting your aim as the target moves. Having arms locked makes everything kinda jittery at longer ranges, so I typically only toggle arm lock for closer and faster targets.
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Tried ass to mouth missiles. Big damage, as long as the target is a big slow assault with bad hitboxes pushing in open terrain and the range is just right for your max damage window and you have space to back up and the enemy assault is too slow to catch up in time and nobody is shooting at your exposed torsos while you're staring at the target and there's no AMS present and the enemies have no ecm to make your lockon take ten times longer and the map is cold so the ass to mouth heat isn't out of control.

If you aligned more stars you'd start waking up elder gods my dudes
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>603 damage in first Urbie game

Yeah its fun as hell
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>>183796202
Sounds like you had a bad game :3
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>>183796663
Was it RAC5? The "<35t assault mech" memes are back on the menu, except this time it's not spls or srms.
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>>183796895
LB10 (2 tons of ammo) and 2sl

xl160 off my commando
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>>183796842
The game was actually extremely good, I was just listing everything that went right and would've fucked my shit up if any of it went wrong.
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tfw uziels waiting for you at home
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>>183797501
I wish
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>>183781641
I'm retarded and I still managed to find this thread when looking for MWO info.
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>>183794439
Renaming this general /kkk/.
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>>183798308
are you a Murican?
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>>183798535
Damn skippy.
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AyyMD's RX Vega is looking more and more shit, Kakos.
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How is ECM doing these days? Is it still a cloak of skill?
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I like how racs are simultaneously awful to use, but annoying to fight against. Piggy really outdid themselves this time.
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>>183799552
I think they're actually pretty easy to use, just aim and click, accelerate back into cover if you are expecting an incoming alpha. It's not a skillful play style and it definitely punishes you for good habits (torso twisting an alpha on your Bushwacker, pausing to avoid a jam instead of accepting fate) but the damage values and impulse do more than compensate.
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>>183799316
It's utter garbage.
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>>183799552
And also how they're ridiculously powerful on lighter mechs, a waste on assaults and really good against assaults. 10/10 MWO heat mechanics do it again
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>>183799895
The last time Medium and Light Mechs were the meta was MechWarrior 3 + 56k modems. With so many of the good assault/bursty weapons nerfed, it's Nice to get a taste of the old times again.
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What motivates the best pilots?
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>>183800768
not now kakos
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>>183800768
https://youtu.be/tFQ7Pg07edc
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>>183703541

best solo FW drop deck for IS?
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>>183801214
4 urbies rofl
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>>183801363

nice fucking upvoted my good man
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>>183800768
posting big damage numbers on /gerg/mwog/btg/ to get a couple of (You)s
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>>183802000

this + leaving one sentence describing my general opinion of the robot I was using
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>>183802086
>one sentence
more like one word
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speaking of which

1,011 of that was 6x ERML 1x AC20 bounty hunter, rest was 6ML phoenix hawk

I think Im going to switch back to normal MLs on the BH, ERs are neat but way too hot for brawling range.
>>
I haven't played my Clan mechs even once since I came back
What a bad long-term investment that was
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>>183806439
BH has range quirks to get the regular MLs out to ERML range anyways. Zero point to ERMLs on it.
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>>183806478

tibbies are still fun.

>>183807017

and here I was thinking that the quirks were helping the ERML range, welp. Thanks m8.
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>>183807017
>Zero point in taking more advantage of your quirks
goddamn civil war refugees
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>>183807212

464m versus 348m, not really worth the extra 6 heat per salvo on something that wants to get in AC20 range anyway.
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>>183807204
>>183807212
MEDIUM LASER RANGE: 5.00 % ENERGY RANGE: 10.00 %

You aren't taking more advantage of your quirks by switching to ERMLs, the point is MLs get a nice buff on it.

You can run ERMLs if you want but the only reason to is if you're running a Gauss on it. Otherwise MLs will do much better for the lower heat.

Actually I don't know if the ML quirk applies to ERMLs, but the mechlab will tell you.
Either way it's still true you don't need to run the ERs on it.
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>>183807512

>Actually I don't know if the ML quirk applies to ERMLs, but the mechlab will tell you.

just checked, it does. I get >>183807482
these numbers
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>>183807512
>>183807482
>AC20 brawling with medium lasers
AC20 goes with medium pulse.
How new are you?
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>>183807656

found the reddit
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>>183807656
The Bounty Hunter is wasted if you don't run 6/7 ML on it. It's the entire point of it compared to other Marauders.

If you want to AC20 + MPL, take the 5M instead.
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>>183807656

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=348&l=0c0e74c0770e162f14c093ca09f384d2f7731c70

Yes brilliant, lets get rid of all our heat efficiency and sustained DPS so that we can bow down to our reddit overlords who decree dumb shit like this and then spout it endlessly for every mech in existence.

As compared to

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=348&l=65c2a5d7c3795453f1f834614eabfb263390fe29

which is just straight up superior in every single statistic besides -6 firepower
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>>183807934
>>183808945
Really you're that new? AC20 has been paired with medium pulse ever since the beginning. It's all about the more concentrated damage output and less facetime. Whatever, keep using your shit builds.
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>>183809376
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>>183809376
>since the beginning

Definitely not because literally all pulse lasers were trash until the Clans arrived, outside the SPL being memetacular on the HBK-4P and AWS-9M in closed beta.

Otherwise sure, MPL + AC20 is typically a great combo, but that doesn't mean it's always the best choice and the Bounty Hunter is one of those cases. Honestly though the UAC10 is a better fit on the Bounty Hunter than the AC20 as well. Even an AC10 is better really.
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>>183809686
shouldn't be brawling in the bounty hunter in the first place when the other variants do it better
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>>183809781
Exactly what I said, hence why the UAC10 is a better choice. The Bounty Hunter is a mid range mech through and through.
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ERML is a meme, you should've seen that coming if you play clans and know the joys of any mech with lasers being a walking volcano.
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>>183810027
lol
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>Play medium Hunchback, stick with assaults, chase off lights and support main push.
>Become frustrated at constant standing around in terrible positions, assaults never making a push or leading, then getting rolled up after several pokers are sniped and we're steamrolled by enemy assaults

>Change to assault so I can lead
>Every single motherfucking cocksucker match, entire team NASCARs full throttle away from my 50kph King Crab
>Enemy lights and mediums catch me alone, rape me 1v3 or 1v4

This has literally happened in 8 out of 10 games, and the fucking absolute human garbage retards have yet to learn this simple tactic that all good light and medium pilots already know - support your assault mechs and don't leave them behind in your idiotic sprint to wherever you're going.

I fucking hate this game and every retarded fucking aidsnigger that plays it. I hope they choke on their tendies and die.
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>>183810691
This is why I play battlemasters and zeuses
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>>183810930
Yeah I guess I'm fucked if I try any build that requires me going less than 60kph. That's the only way I've survived in the KGC because of my moron teams sprinting in circles.

There is no reprieve from this hell.
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>>183810691

>king crab going 50kph

Light

Fusion

Engine
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>>183810691
>lights and mediums sticking to his own assaults
>not rekking the enemies assaults instead

Sorry pal, you're just cannon fodder for hotshot light and medium pilots like me.
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>>183810691
dumb frog poster
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>>183810691
>not playing a clan assault and going 80kph
that's what you get
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>>183812987
>not playing a clan assault with low shitmounts locked to 48kph and dying horribly because pgi is retarded and doesn't understand how fragile the big mechs are without godly hitboxes and copious quirks and welfare agility
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>>183813549

>not playing your pay2win double lbx20 doble pepsi 80kph madcat mk2 and get a guaranteed 800 damage each game while doing the chad stride
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>>183812987
Love the gargoyle in your average solo queue match, but they gotta make that CT less pronounced from the side at least
Torso twisting does nothing against someone who can aim.
>>
>it's STILL impossible to force the PPCs into the high slots on a Banshee
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>>183813787
as it should be
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>>183813787
Light
PPC
Padding
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>>183813726

smurfy pleas
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>it's overpowered because it isn't shit

wew
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Will piggy ever make Altogether Terrible Missiles not a terrible shitpile of bad design decisions or are they here to stay?
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>>183812720
I can almost guarantee I've ripped you a new asshole with MLs and SRMs from my hunchie, clanner. I do very well on my own.

But the best role for mediums is to support the assault mechs and stick in the ball, unless you're a sniperfag.
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>>183814992
Maybe when they buff clams
:^)
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Is there any robot that can make snepsi work?
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>>183813549
Yeah it's my fault for playing mechs I actually LIKE instead of humping the meta or playing wallet warrior. King Crabs have some of the worst hitboxes in the game and PGI hasn't done a fucking thing about them other than toss down a few quirks that really don't help much.

You basically snipe like a nigger or charge in, kill one guy, then get insta-cored because your head is the size of an Awesome's back.
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>>183815116
>I do very well on my own
>gets rekt 8 out of 10 times
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>>183815828
The way quick play is right now, those two aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>183815116
Can't support someone that can't support themselves. I'll help an assault no matter what weight class I am if they know what the fuck they're doing, but the majority of assault players are mouthbreathing idiots. If they can't do anything worthwhile, the only value they have for me is serving as a very flashy distraction for the enemy team.
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Are brawling assaults deader than ever is it just me?
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>>183813985
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>>183816937
>literally adds more low mounts that aren't there normally for ppcs if you put in nothing but ppcs
Jesus christ pig
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>>183816818
Depends on the brawling assault
I get the best results on my skokomish mrm 60 + lpl, the masc really does that special something
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>>183817290
what the fuck are you even on about
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>>183817290
I don't own a banshee, but I could see something like this working in the hands of someone more experienced with them than me
Something like 3 weapon groups: 1 for each side and 1 for top heavy pepsies
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>>183815510

You have to be a sneaky snabby crab and hide around corners waiting to dump your double AC20 + Pepsi into some faggot attacking your team mates
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>>183817512
If you put lasers in a Banshee, only the first slot on both torsos is mounted on the hips. Looks like they really don't want anyone putting high mounted pepsi on it.
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>>183819056
why would they? high mounts are cancer to the game, fuck hill humping
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>>183819235
t. lurm shitassault driver
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>>183819390
what do high mounts have anything to do with LRMs when LRMs go over the hill? retard
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>>183819669
nice damage control
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>>183819767
do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>hagoose has 180m optimum range
What the FUCK?
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>>183820453
Imagine if it didn't
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>>183820695
>let's make all the weapons shit and unexciting
Build customization was a mistake.
Are there any non-potato server for MWLL yet?
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>>183820941
It's probably so because it's how it was in the tabletop
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>>183816937
>six fingers
Has never not bothered me.
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>>183815828
I said that was in my slow King Crab assault you fucking moron. In my Hunchies and Jagers, I average 4-600 a game. It just gets boring playing mediums and standing behind an LRM Atlas for 20 minutes.
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>>183821064
top 10 QUALITY anime
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>>183820453
>>183820941
It has 5x damage falloff you baby.
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>>183821064
Ho fuck lol. Why does the pig do this?
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>>183822301
Have you really never noticed it? It's the sole reason I've never bought a banshee. I saw it on release and realized I could never enjoy it.
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>tfw no russian bitching betty mod
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>>183814081

Well its 70kph but

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=580&l=28091d6c24704940f538e04641365c5ca4e5e873

You can dump the single jump jet for a bigger XL if you want 75kph or another two heat sinks.
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Anyone have any good Kaiju builds with nutechies?
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>>183824118
>single class I JJ
I want this meme to end. Increase in heat mitigation or even speed is preferrable. Or maybe even ammo in this asym meme à la GMan129 (may he stomp in heaven) builds case.
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>>183826020

I like it just because uphill is such a bitch in an assault but that's just preference rather than optimization.
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has fp always been the best way to farm cbills?
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Is the warhammer the most protagonist IS heavy mech in the game?
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>thought double AC10 was just a meme, even with quirks
>that range
>that refire rate
>that projectile speed
>that convergence
>that ammo count
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>>183810691

t. ier 5
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>>183828104
I've been thinking of giving it a try lately, but I wasn't sure if it was worthwhile. I think I'll do it as soon as I have the cbills for it.
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>play assault
>retards cant get enemy lightcancer under control and you die
>play assault
>retards keep blocking you, keep blocking your line of fire, keep backing up into you after changing their minds about pushing, keep running in front of you when you're in the process of unloading over nine thousand autocannon rounds into the enemy
>play assault
>enemy mediums with thousands of missile tubes or two I'm A King Crab Now Cannons core you instantly
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>>183830962
>>183828104
Bushwacker X1...
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>>183831430

>plays assault

>can't hit lights
>can't position
>can't outshoot other assaults

>the problem is everyone but me!!
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>that one assault that sucks dick
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>That one assault that does everything right
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>>183832702
>when it's you
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>>183832912
>whan you think it's you but it's actually me
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>>183832247
>pgi is fucktarded leaf commies, and assaults cant torso pitch far enough to hit lights or turn around fast enough to even track fucking mediums
>everyone is fucktarded and can't do anything
>the targets shooting at you with assault level firepower are half the size, three times faster and fifty times more manouverable
epic simply ebin
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Guillotine when
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>>183826020
1JJ is always worth the investment. Always.
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>>183834309
Soon, here is a cockpit preview
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Guys...
Quad mechs when?
I really feel the need to ride into battle inside of my trusty, armored steed of death, destruction and friendship.
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how would you make a mech game? does it have to have melee? if you couldn't steal from other IPs for mech designs what designs would you have
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>>183827297
Black Knight was literally the protagonist of its own game
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>>183837889
GunZ + Armored Core with way more crowded city/cave hellscapes, imagine bullets ricocheting endlessly in hyperspace but you are the bullet
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>>183831430

>play assault

>Enemy lights
>Keep track of them through a quick UAV when they close in, wait for them turn around the corner and charge up your Gauss'
https://youtu.be/5ABQLFX7KnI
>Teammates are attempting to finish off the enemy
>park your fat ass in front of them and close your crosshairs down on the now cored juicy target
https://youtu.be/5ABQLFX7KnI
>Fresh enemy medium with a shitton of weapons
>Carefully target the enemy side torso and prepare to dump a big one
https://youtu.be/5ABQLFX7KnI
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>tfw too far invested into clans to start buying IS mechs
>have surplus amount of clan weapons, pretty much never need to buy more
>if I went IS I'd have to buy engines, XL, standard, LFE, weapons

ugghhhhhh
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So are trial mechs meant to make you want to stop playing the game as a new player?


How is there not a trial mechs only matchmaking.
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>>183831430

>play assault
>fit a few long range poking weapons in addition to my main close range rapekit
>play conservatively early on, getting long range damage but not over committing early
>go into the end game 4v5 with 90% armor, get 4 kills and 1000 damage as I mop up all the cripples
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>>183839445
>Play Zeus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3v_dkmSO0
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>>183840838

pls tell me you had MASC on it
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>>183841612
Oh yes
This was my game after it. Mrms are a man's brawling tool and masc was the greatest thing to ever happen to Zeus.
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Does the double RAC5 build work on the HighRoller? My HR has a mediocre UAC10 4ML build on it right now, while my X1 has double RAC5.

I was thinking of switching the HR to a double RAC and put 2 AC10 on the X1
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>>183840838
>>183841949
>an anon in gerg owns the hero zoose
you are my main man
gib smurfy build
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>>183842269
Battle proven
Granted that you know how to use the arms
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Anyone else think that the Supernova looks like a giant walking Jew-nose? It just... it looks like
The nose.
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>>183842601
spicy
have some dank eurobeats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz30cTJCEcY
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>>183842015
Yes of course. Every wacker with ST ballistic hardpoints can do dual rac5s.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=506&l=5b6faac0109014c38d8da48f2bd818bab1e23b10
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>>183843223
Less quirks, more dosh.
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>>183842998
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>>183843223
Oh sweet, thats exactly the build i was thinking about.

Also, could you reccomend a X-1 build? another anon in this thread recommended a double AC10, but im not sure how to go about it
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>>183843223
The four small lasers bother the heck out of me, even when you're in range to use them they're less Damage Per Heat than sticking to RACs and DHS. Build is fine otherwise.
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>>183843676
X1 does the rac5's thhe best because of the range qwerk, better than the HR, so I would keep it with racs. Dual ac10 is a fine, pre nuttech setup.
I would recommend a P2 I've been using for a long time: 2x lbx10 + 4x ersl.
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>>183844595
I bought an X2 for the engine kwerks, should I kill myself?
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>>183844543
Well then you don't understand their purpose.
They are for when the racs jam and you can't disengage, to get more alpha on target when you can't expose for long and as backup if rac ammo runs out.
The X1's range qwerk's still superior, but the ersl have a purpose non the less.
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>>183844795
No, it can do the RACs, dual ac10s, it can brawl and do mrms.
It's the best at peaking in and out of cover so dual ac10s and mrms sound the best.
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>>183829869
tier 2, sorry bitch
keep trying, don't give up!
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>>183844925
Wait, you actually let your RACs jam?
Wait, you don't carry enough ammo for the RACs?
Wait, you'd rather bring 2 tons of other weapons that could instead be more RAC ammo?
Wait, you must be T5.
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>>183844595
I see your point, but if i keep my X1 with racs im still kinda stuck with a shitty build on my HR.
Maybe stick the LBX and ersl on it? what engine are you using in it ?
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>>183845406
You're way out of your league, son.
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>>183844925
I get that they could be useful in a bad situation, but if you just removed the SLs and stripped the arm you could get a full three tons of extra ammo, or two tons and a better engine, or one ton and one DHS and that better engine. RACs are good enough to handle fumbles as it is, better to make them better and plan for the good instead of crippling yourself to be 10% better in the bad.
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>>183845443
HR does the 2x lbx10 + 4x ersl build just as good as the p2, I recommend it.
I used to use a xl, but now I use a light 250.
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>>183845572
you still fell for it. pot meet kettle.
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>>183845626
Too much ammo, ~6t + skilltree ammo is easily enough for 1k+ matches.
Slightly larger engines aren't as usefull after desync.
>cripling yourself
Kek, sure.
You do whatever trash you want, these are semantics and I run muh racs on the X1 anyway (I did indeed test the ersls on the P2, tho).
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>>183840789
>play assault
>take a left around the flank instead of cramming in the tiny area where the entire team clusterfucks behind a ramp
>engage the 3-4 lights and mediums coming around to flank the shit ouf of my team
>no help, fucking kill them all
>finally a heavy or assault finished me off
>team wins
>top damage and kills

Please remember to suck my dick on the way out noobs.
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>>183845784
Thanks anon, ill give that thing a chance
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>>183833596

If you can't hit lights, can't maneuver around your allies, and can't outshoot someone with half your health, then you simply aren't good enough to play assaults.

They're not weak, you're just bad.
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>>183846434
You're welcome, I hope you like it.
It's like the dual lbx + 4ml marauder 3R, but 20t lighter and armour qwerked out the ass.
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>>183845391

Hopefully by the time you make it to tier 1 you'll learn that supporting the shitfit assault parked in the artillery training ground is a bad idea.

A good assault supports their mediums and heavies, not the other way around. It's one of the biggest misconceptions in this game, allowing turboshitters to externalize the blame for losing their garbage Atlas or Dire to a single light because they stopped to snipe someone at the edge of max range, or were afk for the first 30 seconds of the match, or took some asinine circuitous route to the battle that put them 5 grid squares out of position.

If you're too fucking stupid to keep up with the team that's your own fault. You can do it in 50kph mech on 90% of the map/mode combos in the game.
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>>183846229
>You do whatever trash you want
ok
265 is only 1 ton of investment so I'll keep it
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I have trouble hitting lights with RACs, I usually focus assaults and hope my team kills the flies
Is this the generally correct approach to RACking or should I actually try to hit zippy guys going 140kph?
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>>183847294
>Actually thinking pilot ranking matters
>You rank down when your retarded team throws the match
>You rank up if you play like complete shit but team wins

What an accurate determination of true mechwarrior skill! We'd better all bow to your tier 1 ablity!

Your argument could've boiled down to 'shit assaults will die anyway so don't support them.' Thank you Grand Khan of the obvious, but anyone who's played a slow assault for 5 minutes in this game knows how easy it is to get out of position and picked off if your stupid team decides to do nothing but sprint at full speed away from you. I main Hunchbacks and I've saved many assaults by not being a fucking moron and sticking with them.
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>robotic gold men complain about assaults.
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>>183846229
>Too much ammo, ~6t + skilltree ammo is easily enough for 1k+ matches.
>easily

>6x180x1.1
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>>183846229

the sub 500 damage brigade strikes again
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>>183848157

>brings up being tier 2
>psr doesn't matter!!!

No shit it doesn't matter you fucking dummy. PSR is just an anti-sealclubbing mechanic.

If you're getting NASCAR'd constantly, then it's probably because you're a fucking tier 2 scrub that's barely even familiar with the maps. Don't fuck around leaving spawn and you won't get Nascar'd.

t. 90% of my games are in Assaults.
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>>183846945
So ive been playing around with it, this is my take
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=506&l=abba4b94cdee1c24ecafd4dd19bf86d86e8e5bba
3 tons of ammo seem kinda low even with ammo rack, but i cant see what else i could cut
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>>183849490

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=506&l=bffc88857a97a9a6704578a0b1de726999757718

IMO.

You waste a lot of tonnage armoring the 3 ERSL arm (on top of the tonnage of the ERSL). 3 tons of ammo is not enough for that much tonnage invested in ballistics- especially considering LBX aren't pinpoint except point blank.

If you want backup lasers, go for twin UAC5s.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=506&l=3eead4f14b72839a635793394ee400632092cd40
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>>183849265
That's because you brought it up first. Jesus Christ stop talking to me you fucking special needs child, please.

Does anybody else get peeved when the best medium mech in the game is an inner sphere classic that's been ripped off and re-tooled by clan faggots? Hunchback IIC is fucking gay but just saw a guy get 1200 damage in one.
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>>183849490
I run 4t.
Did it by shaving armour of the right arm on the P2, which apparently has a higher qwerk value than the HRs left arm.
So in retrospect maybe not 100% equal to the P2, but you can make it work. 1 ersl more or less doesn't break the build, the lbx10s do the brunt of the work.
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>>183851358
>That's because you brought it up first.

Yeah, and I brought it up because your complaints are the same that every tier 5 kid makes after their first game in their first assault mech after watching a 2 year old b33f video.

The problems you're having with getting left behind are going to diminish as you learn the maps better and know the good places to put your assault in the first 2 minutes of the match so you don't get left behind.
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>>183852052
I have been playing this game for 4 years. Shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself more. I'm a more experienced pilot and a much better player than you are.

When you're in the bottom of canyon network and your entire team jumpjets and nascars around the far right side of the map, there's not a lot you can do in a 100 ton, 50kph assault with the entire enemy team nascaring behind you, dick face. You give shit advice and don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you think you're hot shit. I guarantee I have more hours in this game than you.
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>>183852387

>playing the game for 4 years
>still tier 2

fucking lmao
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>there are people in this general who aren't funding the ICO for shroud of the avatar.

Pathetic, really.
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Robots?
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>>183856401
>Robots!
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So what is everyone going to play after HG kills MWO?
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>>183858841
You do realize they have no case, right?
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>>183859093
>implying pleb jury won't find in HGs favour
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>>183859231
As if it's going to reach trial.
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https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/wawd/242820/38-0.html

page 14

rip piggy
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>>183859452
I love page 18
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>>183859621

rly makes you think
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>>183859452
>Attorneys for the Harebrained Defendants
Best line in the whole thing.
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>>183859621
that's for harebrained schemes
page 14 is about pgi

>To this date, Piranha Games’ infringement continues.
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>>183859452

>be HBS.
>admit to everything.

FUG xd
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>>183859807

HG won't let it go to trial. They'll seek settlement out of court like they did with Hasbro.

The validity of their copyright over Robotech designs has been questionable ever since Japanese Court ruled that Studio Nue owns them and not Tatsunoko Productions. If they pushed it into court, it could be found that Harmony Gold only has valid copyright over the animated series itself.
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>>183860617
Man I'm so fucking tired of Harmony Golds horseshit, those fuckers don't even make anything anymore they just sit on the rights for Macross so that they can continually sue any one doing anything with that stuff. How the fuck do you run a company whose only revenue source is court settlement?
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>>183861631
It's probably a one person company by this point.
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>when you want to play FP but you'd have to unmute the autistic shitter that's already in the group and have to listen to his play by play blog about every shot he makes or his opinion of balance, or go on and on and on about skill points, or about how he's too poor for a good drop deck or even consumables, or lecture someone about how people should never ever ever put XL engines on IS mechs.
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>>183861631

They're a real estate company, my man.
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>>183862308
>This is actually real
Holy fuck my disdain for this company has risen several notches.
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MFW I pop a nigger spheroid in a rifleman with one shot and he types in chat "came back because people sayd clan was no longer op, I see now those people knew nothing about the game"

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=508&l=63ffdda0b0f0bf5c9311f71a3a020a5209f9dcb6
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>>183859452
>ANSWER: The Harebrained Defendants lack knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief about the truth of the allegations in this paragraph, and on that basis deny them.

>The Harebrained Defendants
This was entirely intentional, wasn't it?
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>>183859452
Also they're going after the Catalyst designs as well, some of which are even more faithful especially the Marauder. This is the one time all three companies need to stand together, put down some money for the legal defense and stop HG once and for all.
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>>183863551

Catalyst already folded with a no contest. HBS has shit all to say. PGI has a 16 point list of defenses.
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>>183863821
>buying more mech packs increases the chances that the Piggy wins
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>>183863821
And yet again, Catalyst drops their spaghetti all over the floor. As laughably bad as Harmony Gold is, Catalyst is just a trainwreck, and I'm not sure if I'm at all concerned if this fucks them in the ass.
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>mfw HBS and catalyst are incompetent cucks who don't know how to defend themselves, while PGI drafts a gigantic defense consisting of putting the blame on Jordan and claiming estoppel.
>mfw PGI is the last and only hope for battletech.
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>>183864280
>tfw PGi could potentially grab deal every right to battletech in the future
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>>183864280
Weisman was the original Jew who jewed out the design work and took other existing Nip designs instead of creating his own. Now the Jew is being jewed by other Jews.

As much as I like him for creating Battletech he should have really cut their losses and got their own original designs way back before anyone got attached.
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>>183864689

>yfw CBT grogs would welcome PGI and their half way competent ways.
>yfw CBT grogs actually hate catalyst more than MWO grogs hate PGI.
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>>183863240
that's way too fucking hot kill yourself shitter
>>
Was the javelins release hampered by the skilltree release?
Would of it been better with or without it?
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>>183867605
it's hampered by being an is missile light
not enough piggy quirks
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>>183867605

>shitmech light.
>missiles only.
>except for meme hero.
>meme hero has none of the fun shit or gud kwirks.

Skillmaze has nothing to do with it. It's just a shitmech light plagued by only having access to relatively heavy weapons.
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>>183859452
>https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/wawd/242820/38-0.html


why don't harmony gold just file a lawsuit with the courts that simply says ''we're sueing every motherfucker that has anything to do with any kind of 'robot' product for ever and ever! we own everything in the entire universe because fuck you!''
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>>183867605

JVN-10P with the 6 hardpoints or whatever. 6 SRM2.

It benefitted from the ammo nodes in the firepower tree.
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>>183869004
Because the whole thing is just a scheme to skim money out of anything having to do with Battletech or Macross using out of court settlements.
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>>183870680
time for goto bed
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>>183869958
after filing eleven million suspect or spurious lawsuits, should not the courts just automatically slap HG with a 'stop wasting our fucking time' multi million dollar fine judgement?
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Anyone tryed jamming stealth armor onto an atlas ddc with ecm?
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>>183872454
no because that's stupid
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i only need 12 thousand MC in order to convert all my xp from newly 91'd mechs under the new Skill tree into GVP so i can use the left over xp on other mechs i haven't mastered.

ONLY.
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>>183871862
The problem is that none of this shit has actually gone to court, everything is settled out of court so as to avoid a hard court ruling and extensive legal fees. Which might be good thing, back when HG first sued FASA over the use of certain designs from Macross, it's likely the court would've come down on the side of HG since the rights FASA were sold to them by a toy company rather than a production company with licensing rights, but given the fact that HG has not used any of the designs for any commercial purpose for several years and Japanese courts have decided that the designs in question belong to Studio Nue and not Tatsunoko, thus potentially making HG's original license invalid, there's now actual solid ground to finally get the Unseen designs out from under HG's control. Granted that doesn't mean that Catalyst, Hairbrained, or PIG could just use the designs from then on out, since control would revert back to Studio Nue, but I feel they'd be way easier to deal with than whatever misers run HG.
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>Spot the lrm atlas
Why is it always a loyalty atlas
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>>183872951
my point being is that if you are overly litigious in US law, aren't you risking getting an arbitraily dismissal sentenced against you out of hand?
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>>183874473

There are laws against it, but I think it would be hard to argue them since Harmony Gold is the copyright owner.
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>>183875030
yeah, there's copyright law, which also covers thuings like heavy penalties for false suits you know are false.

Like if coke suddenly started sueing anyone who used the colour red in any of their branding or advertisements etc, not coke red, or the ribbon device, but any RED of any kind, the courts would start dismissing the cases out of hand and findingagainst the plaintiff in increasingly punishing amounts.

when PGI et al have gone out of their way to thoroughly redesign and change the entire aesthetics of the so called 'infringing' shit so that it is no longer bright and colourful kiddy cartoon shit, but stompy robot gritty muh realisms

HG really have no leg to stand on.

if BT etc had kept the clean bright cartoony aesthetics then ther'd be an issue, because it would clearly still be attempting to trade on the original shit they don't own.
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>When polar highlands wins by this much

Oh boy I love LRMs
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>>183827297
>warhammer

>big gun arms
>guns are always in the torso

Warhammer is the official mech of cucks.

Marauder was always the true king.
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>>183877443
that's because the lore hammer has ppc arms, and other shit clustered in the torso instead. MWO metagamers just stuff the torsos with the big shit instead.
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>>183875943
HBS is using PGI's designs so the same thing applies to them. Catalyst is using its own designs which are a lot closer to the originals so being pussies they folded instead of going through with a more difficult contest.

>>183877443
>>183877978
Piggyhammer also places the big gun on the lowest possible point on the arms and the redesign has this odd downswept shape that hurts it even more. Marauders get arms that are high enough to not worry about shooting the ground.
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>>183881851
nice
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>>183882513
very nice
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You're in a bear and this guy mauls your GFs ass.
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>>183883851
laugh my ass off with my fly girl at the sight of this tub of lard coming to our club then watch security throw him out of the meta
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dead thread
dumping wallpapers
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>>183886452

This image is copyrighted, remove it now or get sued.
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>put mech on blank white background
>put it through a grainy grey scale filter
>call it a wallpaper
You're worse than Instagram moms taking pics of their food.
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>look i applied a shitty photoshop filter to iglesias art
what did this reddit person mean with that?
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Please calm down
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kys tbqh
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>he won't calm down
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>>183888738
Got a Hunchback IIC?
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>>183888886
making the Origins IIC and Resistance II mechs now, the older packs don't have transparent cutout previews of the mechs available sadly
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>>183889017
Ah too bad love the wallpapers though 10/10
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these ones don't look as consistent because they didn't have a "scrub green" preview available
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>>183889439
There's scrub green versions of the Resistance II in the Re-Paint thread on the forums.
There's also transparencies of other mechs like the Phoenix packs in there.
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>>183889639
I'll check it out
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what's up with the bot spam?
that's not cool
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>>183892265
I think someone is just proud of their posters, that's all.
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dead as fuck game
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Next thread is going to be /btg/ right?
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>>183893005
I hope so
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>>183893005
I hope not
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>>183893138
You better change that attitude
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>>183893005

Sure, the whole GERG thing only came from about from a gay circlejerk or something anyway.

Not sure if /BTG/ is the best name but it makes more sense than propping up some dumb title from a circlejerk that wanted to have more self importance
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Next thread is /greg/
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Next thread is /dash/.
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>>183831430
I mean the stupidly well armed mediums are a pain in the ass yeah but you can always out brawl them with your armor thats four times as thick and despite their loadout they still don't do as much damage as you unless you have a shit setup. Also large lead pipe for atlas when?
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>>183894408
/11/
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>>183894408
Y E S
E
S
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>>183894584
Only after we're finally given goomba-stomp Death from Above attacks and the Piranha mech, just because.
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Next thread is /hwkg/
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>>183894584
>Not running this with full survival tree
>Not just walking at multiple assaults while rolling your face across the keyboard
>Not needing to torso twist at all because the enemies panic at the sheer volume of fire and turn away

The only way to truly play assault is to mindlessly brawl
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>>183896310
pretty weak for an assault
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>>183896390
Weak yes, terrifying also yes.
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>>183896310
A targeting computer mark one is literally useless for the build you have here.
That tonnage could have been devoted to more ammo.
Similarly, a 340XL on a Scorch is a poor investment of tonnage over better weapons, more ammunition, or both.
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>>183897776
Targ comp is a waste but you need big engine to get into big fights, structure won't let you put much more in anyway without fucking your speed, you can rack up around 1k damage a match off balistics and missiles alone as is.
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Meanwhile in pubs.

He wandered around the back all game
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>>183899374
Trigger warning
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what's going to be in the next civil war grab deal? chimera please
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>>183899906
We really need the Lao Hu
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>>183899906
Piranha confirmed, so mark that one off your list.
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>>183899906
More like why it's not Avatar? Why pig fears IS omnis?
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>>183899906
They will add the Templar, as a battlemech.
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>>183902016
Because IS omnis would expose what fucking garbage omnis are, and force the pig into position changes they can't handle.
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Rakshasa when?
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>>183902580
Oh my god this PLEASE.
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>>183902580

Put 6 ML and 2 LRM 15s on an IS heavy with a light engine, bam Rakshasa
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>>183902580
literally a poor mans mad cat
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I'd like to return this Mauler as defective. Looks like it's made entirely of CT
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>>183896310

2 kmdd with 1338 damage is terrible
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>On a limited basis, [10] Clan Diamond Shark sold unmodified Mad Cat Mk IIs to Inner Sphere factions, most notably the Draconis Combine and Federated Commonwealth, and also the Lyran Alliance[11] bought an unknown amount of Mad Cat Mark IIs.

IS Mad Cat IIs when?
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>>183903909

Hilarious because if it had IS quirks and non ER medium lasers it'd probably be a flat improvement to the tibbie
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>>183905060

If they wanted to actually give a shit about lore, it would be an IS Mixtec mech in the first place since only Diamond shark used it on the clan side


Also Diamond shark camo/insignia/faction when
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>>183905235
pretty sure there's a Diamond Shark decal
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>dead thread
>dead game
>dead kong
how will /btg/ ever recover from this?
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>>183862198

>or lecture someone about how people should never ever ever put XL engines on IS mechs.

Well any mech over 45 tons shouldn't now
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>>183905235
Mad Kitty with mixtech opens up the possibility of using the missile ears because MRMs are available instead of Ass To Mouth shenanigans.
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>>183905510

holy fuck I have to check

I've been using the shark week one since it came out
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>>183908695
no it doesn't, you don't use missiles in mad cats because of the ears
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>>183908779

Its not a huge deal in the tibbie but jesus fuck the ears are gigantic on the merk2
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Is there an order ammo depletes?

Like head, center torso, arms, side torso, legs?
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>>183899374
>>183899553
Why are you posting my setup?
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>>183908991
>Its not a huge deal in the tibbie
it's a massive fucking deal

>>183909160
1. Center Torso
2. Right Torso
3. Left Torso
4. Left Arm
5. Right Arm
6. Left Leg
7. Right Leg
8. Head
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How do I get advanced zoom? I thought they got rid of the modules?
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>>183909653

>it's a massive fucking deal

Tibbie with ears barely reaches the same height as Mk2 without ears
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>>183910414
they're still bullet magnets, don't do it
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>>183910414
LRM10s still double the size of your ST hitboxes in the worst way possible.
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>>183910289
It's in the sensors skill tree.
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kong drops happening
please join
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>>183910834
PLEASE JOIN
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>>183911359
s m h
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>you can overheat with RACs without firing a single shot

oh pig
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>>183910834
Why?
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>>183912126
Send help
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>>183912310
>0 damage Annihilator
>0 damage Atlas
just how
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>have laser vomit EBJ in my drop deck
>some cunt gets in close to me and tries to laser vomit poke duel me
>he eats an alpha strike in the left side torso
>pokes me again so he eats another one and his xl pops
>he immediately complains about clan laser vomit being annoying
>mfw I've been dealing with IS laser vomit every fucking game today
>mfw he continued to argue with another guy on my team about how IS totally doesn't have the advantage when it comes to lasers
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>>183912736

>some guy in chat starts complaining about how IS quirks dont make up for IS tech because clan quirks are better
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>>183912736
Better keep poke laser dueling this ebj with my 20 accel decel
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>>183913358
what?
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>>183905092
>no best of all worlds clan xl engine
>no clan endosteel
>no 2 slot clan DHS
>no low tonnage minimal critical slot clan weapons
It's like you don't understand what makes clan mechs good.
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>>183890556
here are the non-resistance variants of Black Knight, Crab, Mauler and Wolfhound, and the Mad Cat Mk2 which I somehow forgot
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>>183917729
Being able to fit 12 laser that are twice as hot and burn nearly twice as long isn't that great of a bonus when it also means you go quirkless too.
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>>183910834
do I need to use mumble
I already use too many chat programs as it is
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>>183920262
Stop.
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>>183920262
>>183920437
>>183920609
/btg/ on /tg/ has an image booru you can post stuff on. You'll have to tag them and put your own artist signature, so whatever. You might need a little work on these to make them more special though.
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>>183920902
why would I want to do that
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>>183917269

I'm dead serious, he said clan quirks were as good as IS

I have no idea how people like that can breathe
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>>183921108
Well you're sharing them here, so I just thought you might have wanted to get a wider distribution. No biggie. Do what ya want.
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>>183922059
just posted them to bump the thread since it's completely dead during those hours, these ones were just missing
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Why do people use Vultures for laser vomit or ballistics?
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>>183925632
4SRM4 2UAC5 is pretty fun as meme builds go. Outside that, because they make bad life decisions.
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>>183926047
The ones I saw had no missile weapons
I think everything was located in the arms
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Dirty secrets time
I've started using light engines in my IS lights
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>>183926880
A lot of people have. You don't sacrifice much to do so given the weights of sub-300 engines.
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>>183927027
>you don't sacrifice much
"only" about 30 engine ratings worth of mobility
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>>183927364
Not affected since the desynch
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>>183927489
l o l
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>>183927609
Raw speed is only a tiny portion of mobility and the least important aspect. Actual agility is unaffected and far more important.

Changing to an LFE typically means you'll drop a DHS and 20 engine rating or so, slightly more for the 35 tonners and their 280 engines.
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>>183928046
>and the least important aspect
L
M
A
O
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>>183928169
Do you enjoy running to cap points, or are you one of the dumb fags I see every day that thinks the way to fight in a light is to circle strafe endlessly instead of position yourself behind their ass and stay there?

If you answered no to both of these then why do you want an extra 15kph? I bet you still take speed tweak too, shitter.
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>>183928046
Are you a Murikan?
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>>183928046
At least the least important aspect as far as lights are concerned, since even a 250 rated engine is relatively hayai as far as speed is concerned up to the 35 tonners.
And now that mobility isn't affected by engine rating, you can have your cake and eat it too.
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>>183927364
>280 35 tonner
>129kph
>260 35 tonner
>120 kph

HOW WILL I SURVIVE THIS LOSS
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>>183928338
s m h
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>>183928516
xl280 is the same weight as le240
where are you pulling those 2.5 tons from?
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>>183928682
DHS and shifting to lighter loadouts instead of MPLs, like ERMLs or ERSLs + LMGs.

The Ember with an LFE is a good example of a mech gaining popularity right now for doing just that.
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>>183928926
>bro just change the entire loadout of your mech
lol
enjoy your "tanky" light that moves at 70kph once you lose a side
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>>183920609

pour one out for the MAL-2P big dick double UAC20 meta that never was
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>>183929062

>clannere logic

yes, going slower when you lose a side torso is totally the same as dying
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>>183929062
I'm sorry changing the color of your lasers is difficult for you. Enjoy the death you'll get instead in your megasized shitbox when the same situation occurs.
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>>183929265
and while alive I would have accomplished much more due to my superior speed and firepower, while you spend the last 5 seconds of your miserable life contemplating "why the fuck did I put a light engine in a light mech" before getting blown the fuck out

shitter
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>there are people in this thread trying to make lights slower and tankier
On a scale from 1 to /gerg/, how hard are you missing the point?
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>>183929374
how do you not understand
what fucking good is a light mech that moves at sub 100 kph? nothing, you're dead, instantly, there is no benefit

so many new shitters holy shit this is seriously the most basic stuff there is, you go fast you die less
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>>183929376
Except my ERMLs have a longer striking range and I can harass from further away, with all the same peeking ability you have because engines don't matter for that now. The alpha difference is 6 points, but the range difference is over 100m.
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LMAO JUST DON'T GET HIT
seriously what the fuck, why are you getting hit in a light mech
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>>183929628
so, if you are harassing from long range, why do you need a light engine?
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>>183929608
I can still peek the same piece of cover with anywhere from half to 3/4s to literally all of my weaponry with the majority of my speed, whereas you are dead. Or are you saying you lack the ability to corner peek in something that goes under 120kph?

Alternatively I can limp off to a cap point. You can't because you are dead.
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>>183929778
Did you know there are weapons the enemy can shoot you back with?

Including these great things called gauss rifles, you might have heard of them, they're a pretty big deal. Especially if you pair them with those other wonderful things called clan lasers. I hear you can get alpha strikes up to 80 damage with those, 30 of which is front loaded and going right to your poor not-so-little 70 hp side torso at 2000m/s.
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are gold forums raiding /gerg/ or something
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>>183930054
>>183929807
>guys just make your light 'mechs do less damage and go slower in exchange for a small amount of survivability in a weight class antithetical to survival
Just go play a medium, holy fuck
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>>183930054
why are you peeking a corner if there's a gauss vomit mech staring at that same corner?
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>>183930389
So you literally never get hit ever? I'm impressed. Please post your stats so that I can confirm you have never once gotten shot in your light mech of choice. Ever.
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>>183930492
answer the question
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>>183930534
Because you don't know that a mech is looking at you, you stupid fuck.
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>>183930595
you don't, because you are stupid
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>>183929608
>nothing, you're dead, instantly, there is no benefit

>so many new shitters holy shit this is seriously the most basic stuff there is, you go fast you die less

But that's where you're wrong.

The MPL WLF-2 is literally the highest scoring light mech of any leader board competition- it only goes 112. Downgrade to medium lasers and swap to a 250LFE and you're faster, more heat efficient, and have longer range. For the price of 6 alpha.

The only thing that's basic here is you.
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>>183930695
So, again, you've never died in a light because you always know where the enemy is and would never ever expose yourself at all if there is any mech infront of you who may potentially turn and shoot you.

Please post your light stats to back this up.
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>>183930725
>losing alpha damage in a light 'mech in favor of surviving a side torso loss
Next you're gonna tell me $500 is a reasonable price for a gold-painted shitmech
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>>183930821
yes, it may be difficult for you to admit that you are bad at the game, but some people actually have situational awareness and functional short term memory

you peek around a corner, shoot at someone and see them turn your way
are you really stupid enough to peek that corner again?

>>183930725
MPL Wolfhound uses 5MPL and a xl280 but nice try smug retard.
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>>183931049
If this were pre light re-scale you might have a leg to stand on, but it's not. The ability for a light to be taken off the field is higher than ever even despite ST health buffs.

>>183931132
So you peek another corner, but after your last peek someone decided they were sick of your shit and expected your movements or called out to be aware of you. You peek your new position only to find out someone has relocated in that time and is staring close enough to where you come out that they can draw a bead on you before you can turn your ass around.

But again this has never happened to you, right? Please post your deathless stats, I'm still waiting. Surely your speed has made you invincible to gauss.
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>>183930725
What wolfhound are you even looking at? Who the fuck has run one with a 240XL? It sure as fuck isn't the 5MPL build. The only 35 tonner that uses an engine anywhere near that small is the Raven with 2LPL or 3LL.

t. someone advocating for LFEs being useful in them
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>>183931132
>MPL Wolfhound uses 5MPL and a xl280 but nice try smug retard.

What if I told you you could take 6 ML, and have the same alpha, same speed, more range, better heat efficiency with a 280 LFE?
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>>183931716
>better heat efficiency

Not really? More heat for the samge damage per shot, and the DHS you add aren't making up for that in capacity, though you do get more dissipation yeah. Which is nice because the 5MPL Wolfhound is hurting for that.
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>>183931716
>what is DPH
>>
jesus christ this thread

what next, standards in clan assaults?
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>First match as LFE 5 medium laser wolfhound going a meager 124 kph while wasting tonnage on ams and ammo
wew
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>>183932114
damage per heat
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>>183932153
I can already feel the shitposting coming, they'll say shit like
>not taking standard in all assaults
>dying to both torso losses in the designated tank class
the worst part is someone WILL fall for it
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>>183932253
I'm glad you decided to try it. I'm not talking out of my ass here. You're going to see a lot more LFE lights as time goes on, plenty of top players have already started adopting them. Again, if you have an Ember you should try it too. LMGs brought new life to it.
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>>183932390
Supernova is good with STDs and it's the best assault in the game guys
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>>183932635
Supernovas don't use standards. Nice attempt at a meme though, it's only second best now that the Angry Feline Remix is out :^)
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>>183932631
do name these "top players" and post proof of such a claim
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>>183932868
boogeyman
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>>183933082
who?
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>>183933082
lol
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>>183932868
Rather Dashing, the leader of KONG, MRBC Season 9 Division D finalist
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>>183932868
EmP, D5 and Oz players. How do you expect me to prove it? See it yourself when you come across them. Ariloc, Ghozzt, tfun, filetitan, etc.
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>>183933189
eleven (11) damage

>>183933272
Literally Whos
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>>183932253
>only 4 destroyed components
nice damage spreading
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>>183933272
lol so you have no proof that any of these top players have claimed any such thing. all you have is some people fucking around with new tech (wow), and you instantly "oh shit this is the new meta"

fuck off retard
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>>183933376
>can't identify the names of the players that bend you over regularly

European education at work
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Any good Kaiju builds with the new tech out there?
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>>183933575
Please remember this conversation in 2 months.
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>>183933272
>pretending your tier 4 ass ever sees any of these players

:^)
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>>183933575

Oh oh oh, I know what happens next! This is the part where you shift the goal posts and start shitposting about someone crossposting from leddit, isn't it?
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>>183933585
I do not recognize any of those names you have listed
Are they famous MWO streamers?

And what does European education have to do with MWO?
I cannot follow your reasoning
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>>183933272
Oh, is this like in LoL and WoW where people like you worship good players? Cool! Glad to see it's in this game too.
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>>183935371
Worship? No. I am just comfortable with admitting I am not the best at this game and look to better teams to see what they're doing to improve, instead of shutting my ears and eyes and thinking I can figure everything out by myself.
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>guys just downgrade your already low amount of weapons and sacrifice your top speed, your entire benefit of being in a light
>[other guy] did it and you should too
>if you don't think doing less damage and going slower is better than you're an idiot and I'm gonna do nothing but condescend and insult you, you lesser being
JUST FUCKING PLAY MEDIUM 'MECHS THEN
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>>183936515

On a related note I didn't realize how fun a PHX is until I finally gave it a go
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>>183936515
But as already established you can do the same damage at longer range with the same engine for a little more heat.
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>>183937113
ZI'd rather have less face time with the MPLs though I've also played a ML Wolfie build tpp. Both are good, I just like the less face time with MPLs.
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>>183937113

Shitposting aside, it's a mistake to suggest it's a black-and-white thing, one way or another.

LFE will work on some lights but not others, depending upon hitboxes/quirks/hardpoints. Seems like it could be decent on the Wolfhound, but would suck on the Javelin or any other mech that's strapped for tonnage.
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>>183929719
because it's an urbie
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>>183929719
>Not facetanking enemy assaults while real assaults deal the damage midst the chaos
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tfw
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tfw
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>>183941032
How does someone suck that much ass in an ebin jag
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>>183941307
trial mech, probably a newbie.

Better question is how does someone suck so badly in an Annie and a Kodiak?
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>>183941307
still more damage than 11
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>>183939865
>>183941032
ok but can you beat this??
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>>183942920
E L E V E N
L
E
V
E
N
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>>183943131
gud score
I'll keep you posted as I play more matches with the urbie
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>>183943352
Then this happened
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>i want to play robots again, haven't played in 2 or more years
>iirc i had a blackjack a victor and a centurion i got from a giveaway

Should I start over or pick up my old account again?
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>>183944569
Considering how strong IS tech is right now, any IS mech is valuable
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>>183944245
what do you run on your R63? i couldn't find a build that i did that well with compared to the other variants. i'm testing out the K-9 right now and all i can say is that i absolutely despise hot maps
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>>183944569
More than likely, those will all serve you well. At the minimum, check out what you have and start looking at things. What restarting would get you in 24 cadet matches with c-bill bonuses, but sadly you won't get any XP from trial mechs.
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>>183944917
just a rac5 and some mediums
>>
>>183944569
Which BJ and victor variants you got?
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>>183946060
bj-1, vtr-9k, cn9-ancix
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Tfw I only play The Cicada 2A with an Xl 340, is literally the only mech I've played this season
Tfw I won 13 matches in a row getting 3/4 solo kills every time
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>>183946838
2A Bretty stronk, glad I saved the FREE champion I got from an event.
>>
Haven't played for 3 months as of now. Tried a heavy pepsi raven, did k with 600 dmg though that was because enemy team was severely benis.

What's the current most OP mek/loadout?
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>>183946650
>BJ-1
I got some builds for that.

>uac20 + ml
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=77&l=7d329e5555873dd7a93c41e2b0221224bc440d00

>goose + erml
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=77&l=cc219a45d59cb1c073366d1f3a0eee819ecd7b08

>2x uac2, light engine
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=77&l=04405b1c5dfe28decb1a053ebd7b027c8534254a

>2x uac2 + erml, XL engine
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=77&l=2f7ee43af0e734930a8890cb4d1724f604814db0

>2x rac2
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=77&l=b2b3699f349b9c46541731636fc23120dbd74800
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bampu
>>
Game ends up as a 1v4, me in my raven and they have 2 assaults and 2 mediums. Kill both of the assaults and a medium but the last one runs away until a tie. :( felt so shitty
>>
I hate this event, faction play is shit
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Ok i got drunk and bought a Black Widow, Sleipnir and Legend Killer, but im shit at building mechs
Could you guys share some decend builds?
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>>183953460
For the Sleip, go with either 2 RAC5s and 2 LB10s, or go with 4LB10s.

Black Widow I haven't done anything with mine yet and I have no Legend Killer, though I want it.
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>>183952993
"I'd rather get a tie than see a smug raven win" lmfao I was in that game
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>>183709473
strip one arm completely, weapon and all
put full armor on the other, switch to UAC10
improve engine and add ammo as you see fit

you're welcome.
>>
>>183953460

Twin LB10X on the Legend Killer
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=390&l=4bbc1c1156d1689384e96905ba4eab4c98d078d5

Quad UAC5 on the Sleipnir
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=439&l=cd7a4ddc3f4b96bb50663c04435c974dbf6bc93c

Twin AC20 on the BW
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=385&l=cda880b8155b38f69245929bf2261fed2b9ae4dd

These are good starting points.

Sleipnir and BW can be built a number of different ways. Legend Killer isn't as good as other Rifleman variants at anything other than LB10X spam (which it's good at).
>>
So I am bumbling around in Trial Mechs and right now I have had the most success playing missile support with the Kintaro in terms of both winning matches and staying alive.


But I have heard that LRMs aren't really worth it in the end. Is it worth it?
>>
>>183956104
relay maed me tink
>>
>>183946650
All Cents are decent with the new autocannon tech. Get used to it because it has a +30% monies bonus which will let you expand your roster.

That Victor only has a tiny smidge of extra Gauss Rifle performance, it can fit anything really. Brawl with big AC and missiles or poke with ballistics + energy. Up to you if you want a few jumpjets.
>>
>>183959031
LRMs are trash 95% of the time against more experianced players and lulOP 5% of the time when massed lurmies with narc support vote polar aidslands.
You can make them work if you're good at positioning, spacing and getting your own locks, but If you're that good you'd be advised to play something else anyway and not waste potential on lurming.
If you like missiles, but don't want to srm brawl, consider mrm for IS and ass to mouth missiles for clams.
Sadly no trail has those new weapons.
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Where did the tonnes go?
>>
>>183963671
12.5 tons of AMS ammo
>>
>>183963671

LFE 385, Dubs, Endo 4 tons of AMS ammo
>>
>Pretty baby is 3000mc
Worth or no
Wanted to see how it will go with the new tec
>>
>>183966529
No. Regardless of what newtek can do it's a shit mech.
>>
bAMP
>>
Quad mechs when?
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>>183966529
Pretty Baby is the quintessential never grabdeal trash hero from way back in the day.
Do. Not. Grab.
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>>183969760
>All hero mechs are shit
Whats the point than of having a sale?
>Pirates Bane
TRASH
>>
>>183966529

More usable now but the Awesome in general is lackluster. Bad hitboxes and bad hardpoint locations.
>>
>>183970025
Not all heroes are trash.
If you must grabdeal, there are some more sensible options.
>misery
>scorch
>black widow
>pajeet
>sparky
>purifier
>jester
>butterbee
>arrow
And I'm sure I'm forgeting some.
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>when you miss both your strikes
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>>183971609

I have no idea why but anansi was so fun I ended up acing all spiders just to max it out. Still my most played mech by a fair margin.
>>
>>183971609
how could you forget elmo
>>
>>183976556
what?
>>
>>183976906
how could you not know what elmo is
>>
Any good support purifier builds?
>>
>he still uses ECM
unless you are a phoenix hawk with stealth armor, don't bother
>>
>>183966529

>MRM 80
>-20% missile cooldown
>-10% missile heat

People calling the PB trash out of hand are just slaves to Gman hivemind. It's got got a good engine cap, and decent hardpoints that have aged well into CW. It's not a top meta pick, but for QP it's vastly better than the majority of Victors and Zeuses, and any Highlander. Frankly it was pretty fun even before the skill tree with 3x ASRM6, 2LPL, 1MPL.

Strap a 325 LFE onto it an put on two MRM40s and you'll be able to hose people down from range, and up close you'll fucking wreck them.
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>TFW the other team is constantly firing so many missiles that your triple LAMS kitfox gets to 90+% heat
>>
What mech can make the Heavy PPC viable?
>>
>>183982306

sparky
rifleman 5D
BLR ghost heat edition
>>
>>183982306
Arctic Cheetah
>>
>>183983745
>>183983753
>responding to kakos bump
>>
>>183983768
Jokes on you, one of those replies is actually kakos
>>
>2 gauss 6 erml assault hero mech
>not p2w
:^)
>>
>it's a "three different american arm chair generals who are dead simultaneously spectating you and telling you which buttons to press in order to do their special gold forum maneuvers" episode
>>
Lets see some more SHS builds.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=571&l=61c77861bac0b7e31fed4ca0aa72e0ee365abf40
>>
Eyyy /btg/ how ya doin?
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>"assaults and heavies go cap theta"
t. double digit commando who didn't cap and we lose to cap
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>Streak stalker
>>
>>183986638
> Heavy PPC Black Knight
>>
>>183986638
>LRM Kitfox
>>
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=11&l=bbf7b2b42322a595d2ab3997c22b039e5ccb4f2a

memetech dragon???
>>
>>183986779
too hot
single mrm10 doesn't need more than 1 ton of ammo
why do you not have ferro or at the very least light ferro
>>
>>183978750
i just ran behind a 100 t in my stealth grinner and shat two arty's on its face and it didn't notice itself exploding from red smoke
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>>183986915
wolfhound
phoenix hawk
same mech
>>
>>183978750
also archer tempest i run mine with it's ecm a good LFE and 4 erml's with mrm 20 x2
pop up and DELETE from short to mid range. it's beautiful.
>>
>>183986973
wolfhound
phoenix hawk
tempest
same mech
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>>183986836
you can lose the 1 t of mrm ammo sure, but ferro means there's no slots left for the whole 2 t's you 'save' to put more shit on.

and 43% cooling is like 1.3-4 in game, so not 'too hot' since >1.2 is 'the' golden rule

>>183986956
>>183987007
wtfru on?
>>
>>183987136
>and 43% cooling is like 1.3-4 in game, so not 'too hot' since >1.2 is 'the' golden rule
no
>>
What's up /mwog/?
>>
>>183988195

Afk Assaults everyday.
>>
>>183847294

>runs at 56kph, entire team was fast heavies and went rush nascar.
>left to die from locusts.
>blames assault for not keeping up.
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>Running the viper with full JJ skills
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>>183990129

Yes, outside of a handful of specific map/spawn combinations, being left behind should not be a problem.
>>
since we're just about there

new thread

>>183990942
>>
>>183989843
I swear there haven't been this many before
>>
>>183990964

Then you haven't played the game enough.

Fucking retarded
>>
>>183990964
>That death to matches played ratio

So carried then?
>>
>>183991007
shitpost

real new thread here
>>183991374
>>183991374
>>183991374
>>
>>183991064

I'm not the one having problems here.

>>183991254

I kill myself so PGI doesn't nerf the armor quirks
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