/dadg/ - Darkest Dungeon General

slow heroes are not welcome here

Shilling my mod. If there's any other art fags out there I'm doing a Trinket Mod independent to this one. There's TOP but it literally just touches on Kickstarter Trinket. I want actual unique trinkets.

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So I thought the Musketeer was just a reskin with no further changes, but from time to time I see a post talking about the "changes" made from the Arbalest.
Anyone can help me and explain? Are there two different Musketeer things?

>>183585073
Please include in next OP

Darkest Dungeon font (Dwarven Axe BB)
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>>183585295
Original musketeer is just a reskin (with some outdated trinkets, dev didn't update them for some reason, easy to fix though)
>I see a post talking about the "changes" made from the Arbalest
Those are the reworked musketeer skills, which is a mod available in the workshop

>>183585518
I see, thank you. It was getting a bit confused.

So how about making reinforcements come at predictable intervals

Say first wave comes at perhaps round 6, next wave comes at round 10, then 13, then 15 etc. Numbers could always be tweaked of course, perhaps even with some extra tweaks like guaranteeing that you can always retreat after reinforcement arrives.

This might actually give some reasons to play dumb damage dealers like Leper rather than stun spamming melees and Flag.

>>183586169

This would completely break some parties who rely on being able to control the pace of a fight with movement abilities, and can afford to take their time since they'll have turns at the end to heal up.

If every fight was a race to it would just mean Hellions/GRs are even stronger than they are now. It would also be boring and unsatisfying, too.

What kind of skin mods would you like to see ? I want to try it but I can't find any ideas

>>183586575

I want different breeds of dog for Houndmaster.

Am I supposed to do my first run in the DD after I defeated all the bosses?

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>3 slimes
>kill one
>ectoplasmic profusion of the first round
fuck right off

>>183586575
A mod where the flaggelant doesnt look retarded

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>>183588535
His design is fucking rad, what are you talking about?

>>183586575
More gender swap skins that aren't overly retarded anime bullshit and actually stay true to the art style.

>>183588570
>wears a potato sack and a skirt
Ok

>>183585073
How do we balance this infernal DLC ladies and gents?

+stop fucking over all the town events
+make the first mission a veteran mission
+curse is harder to contract but has more radical effects
+either reduce cost of buildings or increase their effectiveness

>>183588785
Get good faggot

>>183588785
infestation mechanic is busted. the wait needed to grind invitations is annoying, and the presence of CC enemies outside of the couryard is bullshit. You should be able to farm invitations to the courtyard quests in a Gather The Blood missions, maybe a random drop or hidden chest.

Districts, I agree. I would like to see decreased heirloom cost, and to offset that, have some building take multiple blueprints. I have vinters/cartog/bank built, 8 spare blueprints, and no where near enough heirlooms for any district at the moment.

>>183588869
Buddy, I just killed the shambler at the start of a long mission. Yesterday I fucked him up with a group of level 0's. I AM good

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Power levelling runs are the best.

>>183588974
That's another good point - there used to be zero reason to ever bring antivenom to the ruins (no blight attacks, no curio interactions), but now those mosquito fuckers can vomit on you. It makes all the areas the same. God forbid you bring a blight+stun party to the cove, you'll want bleeds for the mozzies and their stun resist is 170%. The flies are like gnashers but faster and with a self-heal and a permanent status effect on your party. Jesus fuck

>>183589449

The Mosquitos are actually horseshit.

Every time you get a good hit on them and they survive with 1-2 hp, then Thirst so you can't finish them off with a support character. If they're gonna throw 3+ of them at you every battle and rock 30+ dodge they should have the grace to die like spiders and maggots.

Also everything's a fucking Bloodsucker. The insects aren't beasts, the supplicants aren't unholy, the courtiers aren't human - this would all buff the classes to bring them in line with eldrich slayer builds, but lel nope.

Gather The Blood also inflicts the Crimson Curse for no reason at all. The only move that should do it is The Thirst and that's it, keep things consistent.

And they appear in fucking room battles get the FUCK out.

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I don't know why i find this particular bark so funny.

Maybe it's the thought of PD having a little autism fit over her ruined smock.

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Added a trinket guide and recommended stats that each class should look out for in trinkets. Give me opinions on what to edit or any other details to add.
>had to remove some memes in order to keep the text eligible and the size small enough to upload

>>183589881
SO MUCH FUCKING KNOWLEDGE

>>183589881
weighted cudgel may have been god tier when it was +40% stun but at +25% and -1 spd i dont think it deserves that anymore.

i also think grave robber's raider's talisman is god tier with +5% CRT, +30% Trap Disarm, +20% Scouting Chance and +4 SPD, although ive heard some argue the food consumed penalty is bad.

>>183587172
>champion dungeon
>can't one shot them
>they keep multiplying ad infinutum
>literally cockblocked by slimes

>>183589881
>Evidence of Corruption that low
It's basically Scouting Stone on Houndmaster with added benefits.

>>183589881

That trinket tier balance is completely all over the place, calling any common trinkets "God Tier", then rating trinkets like Ancestor's Portrait, Rat Corpse and Ancestor's Vintage low even though they are very useful for non-combat purpose, and are still worth getting your hands on when the opportunity presents itself.

And there's stuff like Bleed Stone being "decent" when it's basically a perfect Flagellant item, calling the Slayer rings "decent" when they are absolutely Top Tier, rating a Hag's Ladle which nobody would ever use above Wilbur's Flag which is excellent.

Should just stick to a small pool of recommended trinkets for each hero and leave it at that, with another section for "good on everyone"-. It would be way simpler and less divisive.

>>183589881
Thanks for your time anon.

Also, holy shit, this game seems really keen in killing acharacter sometimes. It almost feels rigged. Had 4 crits in a row with bleed procs on my jester

>>183589881
Is tempting goblet really that bad? I use it a lot on MAA and it does it's job.

jester needs a mark

>>183590995
Jester needs good skills

>>183590496

Weighted Cudgel is still one of the best possible choices for a Pos 2 HM, it provides more % than a Stun Amulet without compromising your Dodge which is important for that class.

If you still want to chain-stun, you can just put in another Stun Amulet and it works okay.

Keep in mind that a class like Hellion doesn't even have the option of stacking stun chance, so any class-specific trinket that is adding stun is inherently going to be top-tier by virtue of its ability to stack with Amulet, even if it's nerfed.

>>183590993

35% Stress Penalty is an absurd amount and the benefits you get in exchange don't really match the penalty. A Tough Ring or Overture Box will give similar utility without such a huge downside.

I can seeing it being a fun item on Flagellant but that's about it.

>>183589881
>Martyr's seal on God tier
>Ancestor's bottle on useless tier
for real m8, it is literally the other way around

>>183590995
>>183591143
Jester needs more bard based skills because that's what he is. a battle bard. not a bleed damage dealing, stress healing, finale nuke, speed master.

>>183591573

Martyr's Seal being God Tier is a bit of a strange idea, but I would say it is still a top-tier item now.

+HP at all times, some clutch Deathblow resistance and literally no penalties. That's not even counting its use on Flagellant.

Is the Antiquarian strat for Siren viable at Champion level? Have only been through a couple of Champion dungeons so far, was thinking her + Occ/BH, not sure on who to replace her with or add on to survive the trek there, Champion Weald almost kicked my ass so not sure what to expect from Cove.

>>183591734
Oh right, I forgot it grants +15% HP now. nvm it then, I guess it belongs on god tier

>>183591872
Bring a team of 4 occultists equipped with debuff resist amulets Champion Siren's song has a 155% debuff chance, a lvl 6 occultist with a debuff charm has 150% debuff resist

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>>183589881
never forget gems stacks can outvalue gold
optimize that loot
pages are trash
so much info might need multiple pages

>>183591872

Yes, Antiquarian is completely viable at champion level provided you bring a Riposter to combo with. MAA can guard the siren, so stick to HWM.

Plague Doctor - HWM- Occult - Antiquarian

PD and Occultist are amazing in the cove in general but also have excellent innate debuff resistance. Antiquarian's Strange Powders camp skill should be bought from the survivalist, then use that + Holy Water on your HWM and he should be fairly safe.

Oh, and never ever bring a Flagellant to the Siren Fight.

>>183589881
Typo in the text under trinket guide
>SPD is the most important stat that will give you a higher chance yo move before <u>yout</u> enemies.

>>183589881
so is crusader worth taking anywhere but ruins? what about in the darkest dungeon?

>>183591626
>when you have no skills regarding the job you want but get it anyways

>>183592579
He's a good stress healer, which will come in handy in the darkest dungeons, especially his camping skill to remove mortality debuffs. However you absolutely need other sources of damage because he is unimpressive damage wise.

>>183592579

He's probably the best stress healer by virtue of not dying to a light breeze like the Jester, but if you don't need Inspiring Cry you don't need the Crusader.

He's good in the Cove to deal with Sodden Crew, but also in general as you can farm stress healing from the Bulwarks.

For this reason he's also very good in the Crimson Court, on a full holy team.

His unholy slayer quality isn't actually that impressive, most regular damage dealers will deal the same or more damage then a Crusader does - I would literally prefer a Pos 2 Vestal to a Crusader when it comes to undead slayer heroes. Holy Lance is good but it's way too limited in application.

He's a shit hero but not shit enough for people to notice.

>>183592387
Anti in rank 1? I was thinking PD, enjoyed using in Cove a lot, but sometimes I think she's too useful in that I don't know what skills to prioritize, I heard stuns are king so pondering both blight grenades/stun/medicine. One of my BHs has +dmg in Cove and Eldritch hater so was thinking of taking him over a HWM unless the combo + damage potential outweighs those bonuses.

>>183592448
>I'm retarded
It's [u]yout[/u] in the sentence above

They should add a shapeshifter enemy who transforms at the start of the fight into any random normal/non-special/non-boss related enemy in the game.

>>183593180
newfag detected

>>183593423
Why not simply have that mob ?

>>183593423
That's kinda redundant isn't it?

>>183593725
If I could do that I'd do a whole lot more.

>>183593831
No? With an enemy like that you could have weird enemy compositions that could otherwise never happen. Like running around the Ruins and a shapeshifter appears with some skeleton buddies, only to transform into a fishman, for example.

>>183594075
Sounds like some real cancer

>>183594075
just go for it, even if it's a low tier sprite, you could work on the sprite little by little between the updates

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post em

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>>183594624
I bought it last month, during the summer sale.

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>>183594624

>>183594075
>Like running around the Ruins and a shapeshifter appears with some skeleton buddies, only to transform into a fishman
Why not just add random additional mashes (like how CC deals with infestation mashes), instead of creating a new enemy and the transformation of a monster to another would probably be a mechanic that's not available in the game at the moment.

>>183590726
Elder/God tier are trinkets that are universally good with essential stats and minimal or no drawback. Great tier are trinkets that have good synergy with specific heroes or safe choices as trinket filler. Decent tier are trinkets that have limited utility but are handy in the one time you need them. Useless tier denote trinkets that are just mediocre/bad or simply outclassed and made obsolete by other trinkets. I'll add a small subtitle under each tier to elaborate about what makes these trinkets belong to that tier.

Personally I believe the Ladle is pretty good on a PD if you don't have the Blasphemous Vial but yes it's probably too niche to be in elder god tier.

>>183590690
Noted, putting it in elder god tier

>>183592448
fix'd, thanks

>>183591573
+hp is pretty useless on most heroes and the increased food consumption is a liability. Martyr's Seal gives +hp and a slew of other strong bonuses for no drawback whatsoever albeit working only on death's door.

>>183594935
Because the dungeons should retain their themes and keep exclusive enemies in said dungeons.

>just lost a Fallegeant who had + Deathblow resistant perk to a bleed out

fucking hell.

>>183595214
>keep exclusive enemies in said dungeons
While I agree with that statement, I'm merely suggesting, if the anon wanted random compositions, he could just add additional mashes instead of creating a new enemy and try to implement a monster transformation that is not possible at the moment (closest now is the invitation bug with elusive exit, that swaps to a specific enemy though)

>>183595090
Might be simpler to just rename the tiers what they actually denote instead of using memes.

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>>183595284
At least he enjoyed it.

>>183595503
Meeting a Bone Bearer in the weald would be terrifying

>>183596092
What would happen if there's a corpse with a doot and virago?

>>183596196
hell

>>183589174
Shamblers are easy if you aren't a total retard.

>>183586169
>This might actually give some reasons to play dumb damage dealers like Leper rather than stun spamming melees and Flag.
My soloution to this would be to make stress dealers deal less stress, and make damage dealers deal more damage. Front line enemies tend not to be very important, so you always focus down the backlines as soon as possible

>>183589881
add +scouting, +surprise and -stress trinkets to antiquarian.

>>183589881
>ressurection collar that low
>stun stone, x slayer rings, flesh's heart, portrait that low
>hag's ladle that high

>>183598136
Resurrection's Collar is downright complete garbage and should only ever be used to fill up a trinket slot in the early game if you don't happen to have anything better. Falling for the Death's Door meme is suicide. You value prot far more than a tiny percentage of survival which is only useful AFTER you've fucked up. You should never have to aim to land on death's door, but rather prevent it.

>>183598568
Ressurection's collar is the one that gives +30% healing at the cost of bleed chance

How do I choose which skills to bring in a party? I swear they all seem so useful?

Especially I have troubles with the Hellion, I like but I can't understand her best kit.

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>>183598714
Help I'm becoming retarded

Tips for fighting veteran siren? My lineup for it will be PD/Occ/BH/Hellion

>>183598136
Hag's Ladle is best in slot for one of the best classes in the game (PD).

>>183598714
Flagellant heals plenty enough, and his main form of damage is his outrageous bleeds. You don't want him to heal himself too much anyway so you can get multiple exsanguinates and redeems off on consecutive turns.

>>183599042
True, but there's never anything quite like healing a leper with a crit heal for 100

If they ever make Darkest Dungeon 2 do you want the old classes to return with new ones added or completely all new classes replacing the old ones?

>>183600119
New classes with trinkets that are refrences to old classes.

>>183600119
Old+New with a new advanced class system once a hero reaches max level, being able to branch out into two, or more, specializations that grant additional skills.

>>183600119
New classes as well as bringing over all the old ones. No reason to cut out classes that people liked, plus I can't imagine it would be too hard for Red Hook if they use the same system.

On this note, what sort of custom class mods do you all like?

>>183602024
>On this note, what sort of custom class mods do you all like?
Good ones.

>>183600263
Cold War or modern era Lovecraft with more scifi and cosmic enemies. Classes that fit the time period but are more or less the same as their DD1 roles.
>HWM - Thug
>Grave Robber - Archeologist
>Vestal - Priest
>Bounty Hunter - Hired Gun
>Houndmaster - PI
>Crusader - Lawman
>Arbalest - Hunter
>Antiquarian - Journalist
>Occultist - Occultist (university student)
>Plague Doctor - Biologist
>Leper - Bouncer
>Jester - Busker (hobo who sings on the street)
>Man at Arms - Sergeant
>Flagellant - Interrogator
>Hellion - Butcher

Being able to 'evolve' your class and upgrade your skills to a number of specializations would also add more depth. More arcane classes would also be interesting, like psychics or "enlightened" humans (blessed/cursed by aliens with special powers that feed off their lifespan/HP).

All that's said, a mana/SP system will also mix things up a lot, for example each character starts with 2 SP; using the basic attack skill builds 1 SP up to 5, and each special skill every class has uses 0-5 SP. This will prevent people from cheesing heals as they will need to build up the SP to stun or heal by attacking the enemy. Some bosses and late game enemies will be able to remove SP from your characters, as will curios adding or subtracting starting SP for a number of battles.

>>183602350
The best ones that I've seen are:
Pit Fighter, Scourge, Enigma, Seer, Warden, Prodigy, Revenant, and Commisar.

I'm trying out the Conqueror but he clearly wasn't playtested, he has a skill that gives +25% prot for an entire fight that can be used multiple times to stack it. Class is cool otherwise, his standard attack can bleed himself while also giving a small damage and accuracy buff.

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>>183585165
Desu desu

What are you favourite skins /dadg/?

>>183602898
none because I don't customize expendable pawns

>>183602982
>not having teams of cherished heroes once you've gotten good

dazed

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I just noticed the breast, is the plague doctor fe.male?

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Any drawfriends here? I'd like to request PD and Hellion as the two girls in pic related.
>Eeeh? Radiant mode?
>Only kids play in Radiant mode!!
>How Lame
>Kya ha ha ha ha ha ha!!

>>183605759
Yes.

In her equiptment/skill/whatever descriptions she has female pronouns.

>>183605151
feeling

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>>183605905

>>183606241
GR looks like she's wearing shades

>>183589881
Great list m8. Personally I'd put Shameful Locket and Highwayman's set bonus in general to God-tier or even Elder God. The Locket's bonus to CRT is very nice with Highwayman's already high percent chance and skill boosts and the ACC bonus is very nice. The stress bonus from it is also insignificant compared to other great trinkets and is actually a benefitt to getting the set bonus since it gives Highwayman a more than 50% chance to strike a virtue whenever he hits his stress threshold which can be very powerful.potentially.

How would you guys fix the balance in the game?

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>>183589881
why is holy orders above +10% max hp for crusader

They should add special "swarm" fights that happen sometimes. Certain fights would have like 8 guaranteed reinforcements as soon as any enemy dies. They'd be like super challenge encounters like the fanatic or collector

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>>183608160
>spider swarm

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>Try to use camping equipment
>Forgot that i was inspecting a chest
>"It had no effect"

Fluff wise I find it kinda cool that highwaymen have the best chance at virtues with a +45 with the set bonus from the Crimson Court. Sometimes I feel like Red Hook REALLY likes that class along with everyone else.

>>183607189
change most buff/debuff and aoe skills to start with

change up the useless trinkets

no clue what to do with the slow classes

leper and crusader are lacking since their drawbacks are so big while the benefits are minimal

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>>183589881
>white text on black background

>>183609306

Just give them the ability to do chip damage even if they miss.

A good chunk of difficulty in this game comes from missing attacks.

>>183608760

Or worse, dogs.

Got my fucking occultist dead because four sanic fast dogs kept biting until he had like 10 bleed per turn and the fucker died at the first deaths door tick.

Seriously, the AI in this game sure loves fucking up the one guy they know will die the fastest.

Generally speaking, what classes are considered good and which are considered kinda shitty? I am fairly new. I do want to keep using the Crusader regardless. Deus Vult.

>>183606697
Fair point about the locket which makes it a better focus ring, but virtue chance is still an unreliable gamble. I'll bump it up but it's probably not deserving of god tier which are bonuses with objectively good stats (reliable)

>>183608050
+10% max hp is nothing and the main draw of holy orders is the hefty -20% stress reduction, the deathblow resist and virtue chance being bonuses. Blight and bleed chance don't really matter.

>>183609354
I bet you don't even use Tomorrow

>>183609921
If you're going to use Crusader take advantage of his stress heal. You can drag out rounds by keeping two enemies alive, and if you can out-heal their damage with your healer and use your Crusader to stress heal your party.

I'm not going to go through each hero, but here are some tips that will help you pick a good party.

Health is always better than dodge

Highwayman melee skills are better than his ranged ones, the only ranged one you should take is his pistol shot for taking out stress damage dealers in the backline quickly.

Do not use Leper, people here will try and seduce you with screenshots of huge crits and big boy damage, but his accuracy is trash and his misses WILL get your party killed eventually.

Stuns are incredibly useful, do not underestimate them.

Using Bleed/Blight on bosses is the most efficient way to kill them.

>>183610587
>tomorrow
>white on black
pick one

>>183610651
If I can buff Acc or debuff enemy dodge, is Leper considered fair? I have had kinda iffy luck for frontliners from the stage coach. Man at arms, crusader, and 1 bounty hunter are all I have for non-leper frontlines.

And are Jesters even worth it? They seem like far more trouble than they are worth.

>>183609921

Meh Tier : Leper, Crusader, Jester

Harry Enfield Tier: Antiquarian

Decent Tier: Grave Robber, Highwayman, Arbalest, Abomination

Good Tier: Hellion, Man-At-Arms, Bounty Hunter, Occultist

Great Tier: Houndmaster, Vestal, Plague Doctor

Getting Nerfed Tier: Flagellant

All classes can be made viable and work just fine in the right circumstance - in the long run, it's still best to have as varied a roster as you possibly can.

What makes a hero good is versatility, heals and stuns. The less flexibility and utility heroes have, the harder it is to pick them over someone else.

>>183609306
I'd make frontline enemies much more dangerous, so there is more of a point towards attacks that only hit the frontlines

>>183611043
>vestal
>great
babbies out

>>183611004
You could in theory do that for the Leper, but then you're taking extra steps to make the Leper more consistent when you could just pick another front liner that already comes with that. Your front liner isn't supposed to do huge amounts of damage usually, that's what your backup fighter is for most of the time. Your frontliner needs a fair balance of utility and damage.

Jesters are pretty garbage, primarily because of what I mentioned earlier about HP always being better than dodge. Dodge is unreliable defense, and is virtually useless against harder enemies with huge accuracy stats. That in combination with the Finale buff makes him very useless, the only good thing about his kit is his stress heal. But a houndmaster will always be a better option.

>>183611287
>party-wide healing
>bad

Begone, fiend!

>>183611043
> meh
> crusader
But.. Deus Vult!

>>183607189

Leper and Jester need complete overhauls, their concepts simply don't work in the context of the game. Crusader isn't that bad but he's still in his weak vanilla stage and needs serious buffs to make him fun to play.

A vast majority of the trinkets need to be buffed. Nerfing top-tier trinkets won't do shit. Unfortunately the majority of Crimson Court trinkets show the devs themselves, whilst being able to create a great battle system, still have no idea how players actually navigate around it to get results. The result is that any of the new trinkets being good just seems to be a massive coincidence, and not fully intentional on their part.

There are still bullshit enemies like groupers, Virago and mosquitos that need to be nerfed slightly.

Unholy slayer is a useless quality because unholy enemies and rare and easy to deal with.

The religious/non-religious system needs some reworks so it works more like a faction system that can be affected by quirks.

Hunger Checks are retarded and have never not been retarded ever since they were introduced.

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>>183611480
>but then you're taking extra steps to make the Leper more consistent
You just run focus ring and sun ring or grab natural swing if you get a little lucky. I agree he could use more utility but if you think you'll be needing to clear weaker front line enemies consistently like mosquitos and manservants in the courtyard he can fill the role.

>>183609921
Some people are going to tell you that dodge is shit but they are usually wrong. Health means you can take less damage, dodge means you take less damage, stress, blight, bleed, stun, debuff and move. The only place where it isn't useful is in some of the very end dungeons where enemy accuracy is high enough to hit you 100% of the time reguardless.

The jester is eh. He got nerfed really hard recently so nobody's really used him for a while. I wouldn't trust anyone to give you a good explanation of how good his final deal is because I doubt anybody has really played him much recently.

The leper is incredibly fun and is the best at certain bosses. The main issue is that he can only really attack the front two enemies and the game is built so that the back two enemies are almost always infinitely more threatening. This isn't an issue in the crimson court though, so by all means, go ahead. The enemies are all quite evenly spread there, and they always shuffle around.

There's a guy who does class reviews (?) and tells you what he thinks is good or bad. I personally hate him and disagree with most of what he says.

>>183611869
Personally I'd rather change the game than change the leper. I love him as a concept and I don't want to see him be something he's not. Currently, backline enemies are way too threatening while frontline enemies are way too weak.

Similarly, I'd rather they add more unholy enemies than change the things around them

I'd rather they revert the jester change (and maybe decrease damage overall) and just rename it something other than finale.

>Vestal camping skill
>Self: If religious: prevents nighttime ambush
what did they mean by this?

>>183612345
The skills autogenerate these descriptions based off the game code, so it probably just got coded in awkwardly.

>>183612060
But the other big problem with leper is his utility. He has no way to buff his party, his debuffs are weak, he has no guard ability, no way to stress heal his party, and no stuns. The only thing he has is a corpse clear (Which is not always a good thing) and a knockback. Not worth taking over a lot of other characters for the same role.

>>183612345
her stress relief camping skills are complete ass if you aren't running a DEUS VULT lineup, seriously what were they thinking when they designed her skills

>>183612483
I think they should buff how much marks effect an enemy's chance to attack someone. I've never really noticed any enemy other than, say, mushroom men, attacking marked targets more than non-marked targets (and with mushroom men, you very specifically don't want to be marked)

Marks should be a decent alternative to a guard, rather than being either completely negligible or actively damaging.

Also his campfire stress heal is decent.

>>183612483
Yeah the lack of utility is a problem as is his inability to deal with shuffles. I don't use him much but it's not because he can't hit things. It would be an interesting solution if he had a guard that moved him forward 2.

>>183585206
Do you use TOP? Looking to know how balanced it is, considering using it since one of the devs literally told us to use it instead of them balancing trinkets themselves

I have 14k gold on my 20 weeks campaign. How can I earn money other than having an Auntie? I didn't get one for sooo long and I didn't know how useful she was before.

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Town Guard class when?

>>183613947
They wouldn't be doing a very good job at protecting the town if you'd send them out.

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>>183613947
Guild guys class when?
>passive ability, your party gains more xp

>>183614236
But they look cool.

NEW IDEA TO MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN AND CHALLENGING.

The Caretaker randomly takes the spot of one of your party members when going on mission. What do you think?

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>>183614597
>Someone specifically in the game to take care of the hamlet while you're gone
>Going with you

>>183613925
Stop wasting money on things you don't need and do more medium/long dark runs.

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>>183613947
What's he pointing at?

New player here.

Is Finale build Jester totally pointless?
So much for so little pay off.
And he fucks with your positioning.
And he needs to be medicined after to stop him from eating all the damage

>>183614597
Then who's going to take care of the Hamlet, you silly goose?

>>183613251
Leper Unchained gives his knockback move a Forward 1, and you can use it further back in the line.

>>183612483
Leper and Crusader have the same problem in that they're tanks but they can't draw aggro beyond marking themselves, which enemies will just conveniently ignore and rape your backline. I'd attempt to fix it by giving both of them guard, and they will differ from the other guards.

>Crusader
Bulwark of Faith becomes infinite use as it was before, increase PROT by 20%/24%/28%/32%/36%, and increases torch by 5/6/7/8/10 per use. Reduced damage and stress damage from Unholy. Guards an ally for 1 turn.

>Leper
Revenge now guards an ally for 1 turn, marks self and gains +20%/24%/28%/32%/35% extra damage, +10/11/12/13/15 ACC, +1%/2%/3%/4%/5% CRIT, -15 dodge and -25% PROT. He gains 10%/12%/15%/18%/20% extra damage each time he receives damage from enemy attacks for 1 turn.

>>183614706
This 5

>>183614706
He's not pointing, he's dabbing.

>>183614706
He's checking these digits

>>183615028
He should get his eyes checked, then.

>>183614737
Finale Jester used to be good before it was nerfed into the ground, it isn't worth using at all now.

>>183614737
Not the best but having all of his abilities give bonuses to Finale and then not using it when his only other options for remaining backline are just somewhat redundant bleed moves and the fact being able to shuffle a team can be a gamechanger in an emergency, I can't not run it.

>>183614906
I'd rather they change marks to actually help. Marks -should- be a viable alternative to guards.

>>183615419
Marks and Guards can't really coexists though.

Either marks are useless, or they completely invalidate guards by acting as a party-wide guard.

Not something you can really balance.

>lose my favorite plague doctor fighting a croc
>get my favorite vestal back from beyond

Not sure how to feel about this 2bh

>>183616537
I'd just increase the chances of marks changing enemy behaviour. Currently it's "supposed" to draw enemy aggro, but it rarely does. I'd just make it far more likely to aggro people, rather than just making it a forceguard on the entire team.

>>183585165
you can't stop me

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>fighting prophet with a team i now realize was pretty shit for the fight
>Vestal-Hound-Crusader-Bounty
>swap around some to buffer the first few rocks
>trying to burn through the pews as fast as possible
>marking them, calling them heratics, everything
>houndmaster eats vomit and dies in one hit after DD
>"maybe i can salvage this"
>finally get all the pews down
>then the crusade bites it with everyone else barely alive
>pic related
>Cumin the motherfucking bounty hunter will not die until this bounty is claimed
>10+ potential death blows and keeping on
>vestal desperately healing with the party heal to sustain then and not have every hit be a potential deathblow
>fucking murder the Prophet with both on DD
that man earned a right to live

Guys, how do I run no healer teams?
I always end fucked up whenever I don't have a Vestal or Occultist with me.

>just killed the countess
>holy shit yassssssss fuck the crimson curse
>see there are still boss kill missions on the courtyard
>huh, what's this about a stone guardian
>see the rewards are CC trinkets
>set a party for the courtyard immediately: arb/occ/flag/bh
>get to the boss fight
>goddamn those resistances
>damn annoying lance, kill it
>damn annoying shield, kill it
>statue starts going apeshit on me
>what the fuck is this glare bullshit
>the fucking statue just killed my occ and arb
>fuck you I'm not retreating
>survive on redeems
>fuck I can't believe I just defeated this huge stone pile of bullshit with two people
>get the rewards but this doesn't end here
cont.

>>183617302
Have you tried taking less damage?

>>183618060
By killing things first I suppose?

>Every skin I downloaded from the nexus is broken as fuck now
>have to download them all again hoping shit will fix
How did the manage to fuck up even shitty skins? Goddamit.

>>183618493
They updated various class animations which breaks non-updated skins.

>>183617334
>I'm gonna get a round two against this stone bitch
>do an in between mission to rest
>so what the fuck do I do to avoid the GLARE
>I think it may be because it's left without any other attack option
>so if I just kill the shield, since it's his most annoying attack form, and leave the lance, it will be okay!
>I got you now you shitty piece of rock
>party:
>vestal (party heal in case everything goes wrong and I have to try and survive with 4 death's doored characters)
>man-at-arms (not only riposte, in case of GLARE, also buffs and guard)
>highwayman (riposte and that shit)
>leper (so the piece of rock has no dodge and if I equip the +damage against stonework trinket he could be doing some serious damage, I hope)
>oh boy, does overconfidence ever be an slow and insidious killer
>get to the boss fight
>kill the shield
>lets start this party
>HATRED BEYOND TIME
>THE GLARE IS COMING
>get my party rekt
>still manage to hang on
>kill the lance
>crits and shit manage to bring almost entire party to affliction check
>vestal affliction check
>everyone's on death's door
>okay so I need to survive on party heals from now on
>in the first turn of this, the afflicted vestal acts on her own and tries to stun the stone soldier
>WHAT HAVE YOU DONE YOU HOPLESS SWINE
>next GLARE deathblows her while the rest death's doored chars survive
>SERVES YOU RIGHT
>abandon fight
>abandon stress causes hwm to go vigorous
>thanks dude but a bit too late

>>183619319
so when I kill the lance nothing happens but if I kill the shield... huh, so that's how it works

to be continued (probably tomorrow)

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Forgot to equip my guys with trinkets for the final boss lol. DoT can carried me anyways

2 of my characters just fucking fused what the fuck??

What are some weak skills that need buffing?
I'm thinking:
-Increase bleed of hound's harry
-add speed debuff to antiquarian's pocketsand
-add prot debuff to occultist's vulnerability curse
-add restoration to battlefield medicine
-add mark to vestal's illumination and increase damage on hand of light, increase accuracy allround
-increase heal/damage on crusader to rival vestal's single target heal, or add some other effect to the heal
-increase chances of self marks getting enemy aggro to make crusader/leper tanking more effective
-increase knockback chance of purge, increase damage as well
-add crit bonus to graverobber's toxin trickery
-increase damage to highwayman gun skills
-make caltrops effect both back ranks, rather than just one
-decrease stun chance of barbaric yawp to 100 base or less, and/or make those skills immune to being cured via herbs
-change abominations's bile to attack one enemy in any position, with a small amount of base damage and a higher blight
-revert finale change, rename finale, decrease it's damage overall
-add some other buff to rallying flare. Possibly accuracy.
-increase bleed/damage of flag's rain of sorrows. Half damage or maybe a full bleed.

>>183587169
Nah, you can do it whenever. In fact it isn't even necessary to beat all the bosses to win the game.

>>183619634

You're better off just modding those in yourself than wait for Red Hook. Aside from Crusader's Bulwark of Faith, have they even made any roster wide balances to skills recently?

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You haven't lived til you've walked through a dungeon just annihilating everything with Ceiling Noodles.

>>183619993
They changed highwayman's aiming shot thingy to work in the same way as the crusader's bulwark (the buff lasts forever).
Also, the whole jester nerf.

>>183618701
This annoya me so fucking much. Especially because there isn't a fix for some of those skins already, and I love skins.

>>183620383

Then do it yourself? Either that, or PM the modder if he's still around.

>>183620217
Dude they hit for 5 damage and crit for 16. I get my jollies from snort and nindulast criting for upwards of 35 damage and flagmans 1 button press 5 damage bleeds.

>>183619634
Try out the Classes Unchained mod. It has a number of those in it.
Like, the Highwayman Grapeshot does -prot on hit for example, and the Crusader's self mark also adds riposte.

>>183620638

With all those bonuses stacked together they pretty much wipe out the entire backrow in one blast.

>>183620217
The occultist is straight up OP in the cove. Why you would do cove without an occultist and a plague doctor in your party is beyond me. They make it easy modo.

Asking modders, how do you add a sound to a riposte ?

>>183621086
If there was any other reliable source of back row blight and stun, plague doc wouldn't be so essential. She's really important in the Warrens for removing disease and killing those fucking puking pigs too.

>>183621286
Plague Doctor in the warrens? Nah. Use houndmaster/arb/hellion/grave robber if you want to kill the back rows. Hell, grave robber can remove diseases and deal sufficient backrow damage.

Please help me be a filthy cheater by reading spoilers but will I still need revelation protection in DD3?

>>183621672
no

>>183621137

Go to your custom class' audio folder and add:

{"event_id": "event:/char/ally/[insert name of hero here]_riposte1", "guide_override":"{[insert GUID of sound effect you want to use here]}"}

You can get the list of GUIDs somewhere in the steam worksop modding guide, or simply download FMOD.

>>183621672
No, revelation is exclusive to DD2 bosses

>>183621927
>>183622160
Thanks. I slightly wish the game would give me a hint about that. I bet many people who went in blind wasted 3 trinket slots on those.

>>183620383
Its for the better, a lot of the old combat idles were inferior

Some that havent been updated are really showing their age compared to the fluidity of the newer ones, mainly the leper

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>Finish all courtyard missions
>suddenly missions like "gathering blood is gone"
Great, now my only option for visiting the courtyard is to fight the stupid 40 round giant?
What happened to gather the blood mission? Where are there scouting and exterminate missions?
RED HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

>>183622021
Thanks a lot

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could someone draw this as a ruins skellington

>>183622319
The game warns you if you try to embark without them.

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>>183594624

too busy working to get to play much

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>>183621515
>grave robber
>she keeps the keks rolling with the freshest dank memes
>shares her cocaine and removes disease
>dodges everything
>You're looking a tad wan friend ;^)
>crits keep sanity nice and low
>walk out of the dungeon healthier than when you went in
9/10 hero desu desu

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So close.

>>183621515
>Plague Doctor in the warrens
To be fair, the double stun is still ridiculously useful. She can keep them stunned while a leper or something mows down the front rows, then she can clear the corpses so that he can keep mowing

The double blight is also fantastic against the flesh

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I want to build up a group of four occultists, all with eldritch slayer, precise striker, and eldritch hater.

They'll be equipped with eldritch-killing incense, and also sun rings. I want to take them through DD1, just to see if it would work. This is a good idea, right?

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any simple draw request?

>>183625145
The biggest problem would be stress, but it should definitely be possible.

>>183625330
Will listening to Tunak Tun help my plays to succeed?

How does resistance work exactly?

Let's say an enemy has 115% chance to apply a stun, and I have 100% stun resist, does that mean there's 15% chance for a stun to proc?

>>183625145
The Finger
CRIT! 20
Bleed
ISIS man is at Death's Door!

Wyrd Reconstruction
0
Bleed

Deathblow!

>>183625145
where's your ethereal crucifix bro, need that bleed resist for DD1 :^)

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It is done.

>>183625320
wilbur as a cheerleader waving pom poms

>>183625695
exactly

>>183626113
Nice dude
which one was the hardest to get?

>doing a suicide run on the cove at full darkness with fresh recruits
>they all go virtuous
Uhhhhhhhhhhh

>>183627429
Keep them.

>>183626401
Dysfunction/twisted and about to break took a while to get since my heroes kept rolling virtues. Death by trap was also a pain since they had to fail both the dodge roll and the deathblow roll.

The worst achievement is probably shadows blur together, but I got extremely lucky/unlucky and got that one au naturel.

>>183627529
But two are lepers tho

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>>183574626
I've never ever heard of this, in my 1.5 years of playing. Is this some sort of recent-ish "balancing" to put Brothel in place with the other tavern shitholes?

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Reminder that double-pull is the champion of the metagame

>>183628091
how do you even stress heal anyways

>>183628179
Big filthy crits son

Plus it's only a short mission so I'm pretty safe to stress them out, I've hit bank lategame so I'm cool with paying for 4 brothel/flagellation sessions

>notice I have eldritch slayer on my occultist after an expedition
>costs 9k to lock it, but I don't have enough
>run another expedition and find 3 trapezehdrons in a secret room
>BINGO
>gets replaced by Balanced in the return screen

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>183628179
3 of those 4 classes have above average crit chance, I believe.

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>>183628080
I don't know, it might be recent? I've only started playing on the 25th, and my tavern.building was last modified on the 25th, so I don't think any mods I've installed have fucked with it. In my searches I managed to find a recent post on Reddit within the past week that mentioned this happening as well, and even provided evidence of their tavern.building file having it.

\Steam\steamapps\common\DarkestDungeon\campaign\town\buildings\tavern\tavern.building.json
There should be a section in the brothel part that mentions this event. Can anyone check and confirm?

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>>183628992
>being so poor you can't even spare enough gold to lock in a single quirk on any given week

>>183628992
>Get a good quirk from Curio
>replaced at the end of the quest

>>183589881

Where are the Vestal's Scrolls? I mean the healing one does carry a heavy damage debuff but to be fair it makes her healing ridiculous with Junia's Head. You can easily pop 14+ in Veteran.

>>183589881
How is the Moon Ring not in Elder God tier? If you even attempt a dark run there is zero reason to not use it.

Also the map should be higher just for the fact you can scout secret rooms, not get ambushed, scout out areas quickly so you can see if you need to go there, and gives a bonus chance to disarm traps which is a 8 stress heal for them.

Also
>Stun Amulet
>Decent
It gives excellent stun chance and gives you stun resist, it could make it so your stunner won't get stunned.

The Necromancers item is pretty limited as well so it shouldn't even be on the same level as the Ethereal Crucifix which has much more flexibility due to how many eldritch type enemies there are.

I may be blind or the Blood Thirst Ring isn't on that list.

>onnabushi has no trinkets
fuck I really wanted to use this class

ActionJack's kraken boss is out, unfortunately it comes with additional enemies.

Is there a place where people compiled screenshots of all the hallucinations you get after going into the DD?

>>183629897
it has the big downside of drastically lowering Stun chance, you can get away with it on lower levels, but you absolutely want to stun enemies higher on

Tome of Holy healing does pretty much the same without crippling your stun, use it instead

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I don't know how2flagman:
Should I load him up with Flesh's Heart and Chipped Tooth to have tanky hp and a greater range of <50% before hitting death's door?

Cartographer's Camp 2gud

>>183630693
What the fuck is this shit? We all know it is Occultist + Bounty Hunter.

>>183628080
I've been playing this game for 5 weeks and I've lost 2 trinkets in there.

One of my Arbalast got distracted in the brothel and lost an orange abo trinket. Then, one of my hwm lost some grey shitty trinket in a bad gamble.

>>183631058
That's gay.

>>183631194
It takes all of 4 seconds to remove trinkets from a character before admitting them somewhere with random negative events.

>>183630302

What's wrong with that?

>>183631194
Losing trinkets in gambling, and drinking is well documented, but there seems to be a large lack of reports of losing them in the brothel. It seems it's really rare, but happens.

>>183585073

Don't know a single thing about this game but it's on sale right now on the PS4. Is it worth it? I like RPGs and roguelikes.

>>183631529

You're gonna miss out on mods but it's still really fun

>>183631441
they're just recolors and shit, low quality

Is the fanatic supposed to spawn on week 17? Because he just did

>>183631529
It's pretty damn good and you'll probably enjoy it.

mods aren't THAT big of a deal because most of them are just skins.

I don't know if you're a phoneposter or not, but I would check to see if your computer can run it first because there are some good skins out there

>>183631431
If you have them go in trinket-less then they can pull from your trinket inventory.

>>183630693
I'd avoid the flesh's heart, cause DoT's are a very reliable and predictable way of taking damage for redeems

>>183630067
Sun rings is all you need famalan

Please tell me there's a way to fix the non-working sound effects of the Musketeer mod (non reworked)

>>183633450
>non-reworked
for what purpose?

>One room before Hag
>Risk camp because some heroes are close to 50 stress
>Get ambushed
>A Fucking Ghould
>Skull Toss my Grave Robber
>Crits
>44 fucking stress
>Skull Toss nexxt turn
>Death door, 92 total stress

Fucking not worth it man.

Well the Hag was a piece of shit and died in 3 turns but fuck.

>>183634217

Because I'm wary of custom classes.

>>183634436
>not bringing one hero that prevents ambushes

>>183634556

Musketeer Rework is great though. She's a ranged class that doesn't need an entire party made around her just to support her damage output

Plus she can easily get back into the backlines with retreating shot and help with stress with her stress heal

>>183634556
You're wary of custom classes, but not?
Just download the latest musketeer mod from the "More /vg/ skins & classes + Musketeer" in the OP. It's basically the only balanced mod class in existence and is pretty nice to add more heroes to the roster

>>183634868

That's in the pastebin I got the musketeer. The first link. Sounds just don't work.

>>183634710
Entire teams need to be built around Arb? All she really benefits from is someone else to mark, which is the same issue a bounty hunter has. I mean, yeah, she wants to stay in position 4, which sucks sometimes, but thats not much different than hellion wnating to stay in position 1.

>>183635003
Well there is the musketeer reworked standalone on steam now
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=953863272

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Is it viable to just send a single shitter and make him retreat to stress heal my other heroes? My last missions failed early, and the heroes of the one before all wanted to go in the shitty penitence hall where our lovely caretaker is since 3 weeks.

Also, I'm seeing a pattern here. Mh.

>>183625320
this pls >>183622802

Does the Shrieker fight give XP?

So if I fail to scout a secret room in the Crimson Court I'm just fuckarooed?

>>183636563
Yes.

A lot of people complain about the Jester. To me, he works fine. When you play in Hardcore Mode you need to improve everything and finish the dungeons with a party with low stress is one of the things.
I use the Jester in:
-Long runs and epic runs(like crimson curts and darkest dungeon)
-Warrens and sometimes in weald.
-Against Abomination

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Get shat on Flesh.

>go to start another mission to rank up some new guys
>accidentally start a short ruin mission with flag because I thought I switched him with MaA
>Didn't even have good attacks with him since he was level 0
>forgot to unlock his abilities that trigger off low HP
>brought a houndmaster to stress heal but he does fuck all for stress healing
>brough a leper to do alpha damage but forgot to bring trinkets to increase accuracy
>everyone is afflicted by the third room in a short dungeon
>literally everyone gets a heart attack but the leper who for some reason had no stress on him at all until that room then got afflicted right away
I just got reminded

Went back to town and got the +6 people on the stagecoach event though so I guess it's not all bad

>tfw you get to the Viscount in one trek but he wrecked my whole party and was left at 12 hp

Fffffffffff rip trinkets and flagman

>>183638843
>houndmaster only stress heals for 3
Why do people think he is good for this?

>>183637497
Houndmaster, Crusader, and Flagellant all have combat stress heals while being better, more flexible heroes overall. The other perks you get from bringing them along vastly outweigh the slightly stronger stress healing you get from bringing a Jester, which is ultimately more of a convenience and time-saver than anything else considering you have an effectively infinite amount of turns to get to 0 stress if you're using proper stalling tactics.

His low base HP also makes him a large risk in champion dungeons where he's almost always a crit away from death's door. His first turn 1-shot was absurdly good before, but it was also the only thing keeping him remotely competitive on higher difficulties. Without it there's no good reason to bring him over a Houndmaster or Flagellant.

>>183639712
>3 stress heal hm
BUT WHY do people think this is good?

>>183639837
don't forget the stress heal isn't even confirmed
it's a 66% chance per person to get that meager stress heal

>>183639519
>it is still 50% chance of occurring

I don't know what were they thinking

>>183639964
Honestly I want to make a mod that makes it either A be 100% going to heal that stress or B heals more than just fucking 3.

>>183613712
I don't use TOP. I don't like how it handles balancing. I'm thinking of doing my own balance pass on the trinkets eventually.

>>183639837
>>183639950
>>183639964
>>183640071
It's a 7 stress heal at level 5.

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Had a fun idea for a class mod before realizing I will probably never have the tools to make it. Was gonna be a character that's ridiculously high risk and reward.

Here's a paste bin just because I don't want to post a retarded block of text. https://pastebin.com/Hk89yKFj

Judge me. Is it shit?

>>183640071
Why not do both?

>>183640358
>only having a 19% chance to heal 28 stress across all characters
>when jester and crusader both exist and can guarantee that stress heal and do more

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Not a bad haul

>>183640449
So basically it's like leper x10

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>AJ has finally released his Cove Enemy Mod
FUCKING FINALLY
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1087665130&searchtext=

>>183640476
And Cry Havoc still nets you more stress healing over time, which you have no shortage of if you're stalling fights properly.

>>183641020
>stalling fights
Coward.

>>183640476
>>183640358
>>183639964
>>183639519
One mod I am using makes it a guaranteed stress heal, and another mod boosts the amount. They aren't compatible mods, though.

>>183640731
A little bit of leper, a little bit of flagellant. Was more going for something that turned a run into absolute havoc.

>>183641020
>19% chance
66% chance for each.
Literally you can roll to not stress heal anyone

also
>7 at rank 5
you saying I would have to use a trash stress healer until he's rank 5 to get him to be even in the possible area of good stress healing?
And to not use a jester who stress heals 15 per person guaranteed per turn at rank 5?

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>surprise enemies
>miss every attack on them

>>183641419
>they get their turns
>they hit every attack

Round 2!
>they get their turns first
>they hit every attack again

>>183641309
>Literally you can roll to not stress heal anyone
And you have a slightly higher chance to stress heal everyone.

>you saying I would have to use a trash stress healer until he's rank 5 to get him to be even in the possible area of good stress healing?
And to not use a jester who stress heals 15 per person guaranteed per turn at rank 5?
Even I wouldn't use an apprentice-level Cry Havoc for stress healing, but those dungeons are easy enough that you don't even need to. Camping skills are all you need to keep your stress at bay until champion dungeons.

At level 5 I wouldn't use a Jester for stress healing because it comes with the luggage of a glass cannon character who's useless at every other task. Below level 5 I wouldn't use a Jester because he's taking up a party slot that could be used to level up a character that'll actually be useful in the darkest dungeon.

Does the baron quest always reward absinthe, or am I just unlucky?

>>183631704
whenever medium infections start

>>183641419
And that's why you always run +ACC trinkets.

>>183642047

I think the reward is fixed once the quest appears (at least if you pass weeks in non Courtyard), but it can be different. I had the Lioness Warpaint personally.

>>183635435
stop sending lvl 0 plebs to stress heal, just fire them

that occultist should be in a party with the jester getting stress healed for free

Has anyone else tried double plague doctor? It's ridiculous.

>>183642531
If you haven't already, try running that with a YAWP Hellion.

>>183642307
>stop sending lvl 0 plebs to stress heal, just fire them
How else are you going to get high level characters? That strat seems unreasonably stingy; money isn't THAT rare.

>>183642531
Ezpz cove at least.
I mix it up with a frontline occultist for heals, one more stun and stabbing.

>>183642636
upgrading the Stage Coach duh.

>>183642613
I'm currently going Leper+Vestal+PD+PD
I'd probably take a flag if it wasnt the ruins

The leper is just a fucking lawnmower.

>>183642613
>>183642827
update: just killed the collector in 3 turns

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Finished the game for the first time.
I didn't know what to expect outside of sacrificing 2 heroes for DD4 so I was at the same time thankful and a little disappointed after doing DD2 and DD3
I didn't matter how well I did in the courtyard and champion missions I was really NOT ready for DD2 and DD3. Good luck and probably using HMs is what saved me. This turn-based game is more thrilling than anything else I've played recently.

Rip Dismas, died to the Baron when I was still ignorant about a lot of the game.

Do people here keep grinding for trinkets or do they generally retire the game until DLC comes by?

>>183642636
By not getting them stressed out in the first place, or curing their stress during missions.

Jesters and Flagellants have strong stress heals they can use during combat early-game, while Crusaders and Houndmasters have weaker ones that pick up later on. Graverobbers and Occultist crit often enough to manage your stress for you by running them normally. Literally every class can heal stress while camping too, so you should always be doing medium/long missions.

>>183642636
only keep heroes with good quirks and upgrade the stagecoach

have rotating crews so minor stress heals over time on its own

stress healers can make the buildings in the hamlet nearly obsolete

>>183643051
try Pitch Black Dungeon.

>>183643051
Now you go for 100% achievement completion and beat the game on Bloodmoon.

>>183643103
Oh what made me stop being afraid and finally do DD3 was losing 3 heroes when I was looking for a shambler fight.
My main stun-dealer skipped his turn and a squiffy ghast caused 3 heart attacks.
After that I realized I needed to stop playing around. DD2 had nearly traumatized me.

>>183643339
nevermind im retarded
Didn't realize that was a mod.

I figured out that you can effectively have really high speed by instead having really low speed.

I was in a shambler fight and my leper had some kind of debuff that made his speed so low that he had his turn after the shambler, meaning that he could hew two fresh shambler spawn every single turn. It was deliciously cheesy

>>183617035
Use a bunch of heroes with off-heals or self-heals, like arby (with medic's greaves), crusader, hm, leper, etc.
Keep your speed high.
Use stuns and concentrate fire well so enemies get few attacks per round.

I was able to stomp the brigand pounder and take very little damage throughout the mission with arby/gr/abom/abom on veteran

Really love the aesthetics on this game but kinda shit at dungeon crawler's so I figured I should ask before slamming down any cash, would it be worth buying this if one isn't all that gr8 at this vidya genre? Or is it purely only enjoyable as a challenge thing?

>>183644478
The game gets significantly easier once you figure things out and upgrade your dudes. Once the difficulty cranks back up again, you'll probably know what you're doing.

>>183644547
Frankly, outside of new enemies, I'd say that the jump from apprentice to veteran requires the player to master the mechanics while to champion needs that and also good trinkets else missed attacks and resisted stuns or other status effects are super common.

>digestion crits my healer for 34 damage
>applies 8 dpt blight
help

>>183645206
This is no place for the weak or the foolhardy.

Did I just have great luck or does hunger not trigger in DD3?

>>183645669
I'm pretty sure hunger checks were toned down significantly for the darkest dungeon missions.

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The female crusader skin is so good, it looks like it was made by the devs themselves.

Boop Art Anon here? Trinket Mod anon here.

>>183646178
If Reynauld isn't a girl crusader anon I will come over to your house and make her into your waifu

>>183646402
>183646402

I was wondering if I could change his name and still get the achievement actually.

Lol, Bounty Hunters seem to be an endangered species in my first run. They have been my only 2 deaths so far. The second one died to the brutal 4 grouper party.

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uh, question, is the only way you can get into a hidden area is by scouting or do you guys click every block you move into?
>>183646178
thats actually a really good looking mid

>>183640321
you should give it a shot

>>183640812
too bad the boss isn't separate from the enemies

>>183647384
Only by scouting, except for a specific room in a certain dungeon.

>>183647869
thank you kindly

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>first ever secret room
>don't have a key
FUCK

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>>183646178
There are more than enough girls in this fucking game already you faggot. I never understand why devs fill the need to fill their games with women when it's totally out of them. If you wanna ad a female character or two as exceptions to the rule that's fine, but when you are playing a game about battling the deepest pits of hell it doesn't make much sense that half of the roster is female.

>autism rant over

>>183648837

>Implying god tier waifu Jeanne d'Arc wouldn't have gone into the pits of hell in the name of God and wouldn't have inspired the heroes to do amazing deeds with her faith

Would be pretty ill-fitting to the lore but a Belmont would look nifty in this

>>183649152
I actually like the vestal for the reasons you described, religious motives can make warriors of anyone if they're devoted enough.

Hellion gets special points too, because shes just hardcore as fuck and fits with the theme.

>>183649152
Don't poke the /pol/ nest. He said it was over just leave him be.

>>183648837
I'm not really into turning every single model and sprite into my games into shitty fapbait myself but frankly anon, it's just a mod someone is using.
I wouldn't compare this to generals like TES where such mods become the center of circlejerking and cancer.

>>183649308
>Wanting a believable foundation makes you a /pol/tard

If I was /po/ack I would then proceed to say something along the lines of "GOOD GOY"

>>183646552
No idea. I don't dare touch reynauld or dismas at all so I can get that achievement. they just sit there idly as I use other heroes

>>183649308
IN THE NAME OF GOD

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If I have 60k gold and exactly 50 portraits should I build the bank? How does the bank even work? Do I put a bunch of money in and after a dungeon I get a percent back right away?

>>183650104
>Should I build the bank

Yes

That's all you need to know

>>183650104
Yes, 5% amount of gold you have stored.
Do a few auntie runs and you usually become self-sufficient in gold between the 200-300k range.
Imagine that, free 20k gold every week.

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LIGHT PREVAIL!

>>183650252
>>183650315

Very cool. I've got 3 aunts so would there be a good group that I can build maximizing my money gain?

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>>183650104

You put money in it and then use Antiquarians and eventually you make so much money off interest that you never need to worry about it ever again.

>>183650431
1 Auntie is usually enough, just pick a good party around her and you should be fine.

Of course if you wanna get ballsy you could look up multiple antiquarian parties if you're an absolute mad man.

Also don't take her on short dungeons, Trinket Scrounge is too good of a camping skill to pass up.