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Black Knight Greataxe Edition

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
https://pastebin.com/FiDXYjfs

>DARK SOULS
https://pastebin.com/Rtb5w9yS

>DEMON'S SOULS
https://pastebin.com/tehcGm75

>BLOODBORNE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
Bloodborne discussion is welcome here, but you'll get more help in their general: >>>/vg/bbg

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>COMMUNITY
Discord (READ THE README BEFORE JOINING): https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
Player list: https://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
Steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
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Is it considered rude to farm effigies from the same red sign?
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>>183557923
There is nothing wrong with dumpstering shitters.
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>>183557923
That's how they get good
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I think arch dragon peak has become my favorite place to invade.
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>>183558308
What chest piece is that? I like the cape.
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Favorite summon and invader in each game
>Tarkus and Marvelous Chester
>Bradley and Maldron
>Tsorig, both forms
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Whats wrong with pee pants?
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I need 3 more fucking sunlight medals, and all I'm getting is people in Pisspants or Abyss Watchers sets with third world internet.
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>>183559040
where u at?
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>>183559040
soul level and platform
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any clue on how i can play dark souls 3 with my ____friend using steam family share
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>>183560062
i don't know if it works that way
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>>183558826
mirrah chain mail
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>>183560062
I think only one person can use the family share at the same time
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Shira's dialogue at the dunes takes on a whole different meaning when your character is Black.
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>>183560219
No wonder. I've played the game like 7 times and never gotten his armor. Thanks anon.
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>>183559040
>>183559730
come on mother fucker i wanna help you help me
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>>183561246
He's a fun boss, you get both of his Boss items yet?
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>>183561782
not yet
I still have to fight him
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>>183558984
Beatrice and Kirk.
I basically skipped 2
Heysel and Heysel
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>>183561246
>only way to do meaningful damage is to hit him in the face
>everything he does makes him swing his dumb head around like a retard
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Demons Souls: Mage, Black Leather, Estoc
Dark Souls: Rogue, Black Leather, Ricard's Rapier
Dark Souls 2: Hexer, Desert Sorceress, Long Sword
Dark Souls 3: Knight, Knight's Armor, Astora Greatsword.
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>>183558984
Tarkus, Kirk
Benhart, Jester Thomas
Hodrick, Hodrick
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Stay the fuck out of Undead Settlement for awhile.

BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING CROP HARVESTING SEASON
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>>183562980
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>>183562980
Demons souls sure had sweet graphics for its time.
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>>183558984
>Solaire and Mildred
>Bashful Ray and Maldron
>Gotthard and Hod the God
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>>183563286
it sure did
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How do you guys get yourselves to legitimately invade people? Every time I go about it I just start goofing off with the host and guiding them through the area.

Also, what are your favorite bosses to help shitters with?
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>>183563286
>Implying a Pesant can afford a decent computer that can run DS3 on the highest settings.

To be honest it isn't his fault. The Souls games are always fucking terribly optimized lets be real here.
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What are some good weapons to make Dark? I already got a LKS and a Harald CGS
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>>183563991
saint bident
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>>183563991

Murakumo, Red Hilted Halberd (Gets a unique name on infusion), Corvian Great Scythe, get a Chaos Dagger, probably Manserpent Hatchet, Astora Great Sword, Zweihander
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>>183564093
Fuck you, man.
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>>183564192
?_?
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do I still hold out hope they redo some parts of the map and game design and make the game actually perfect or just fuck off forever to whatever their next game is
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>>183564213
plz do not give shit builds for good weapons
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>>183564268
>dark builds
>shit
?_?
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>>183564446
>dark saint bident
>not heavy DMB bident

man have you even used the thing
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>>183563779
>People say DS3 is the most optimized out of the 3 souls games.

>Still lag in certain areas even on the lowest settings.

Was DS1 and DS2 actually worse and I just never noticed?
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>>183564556
I can tell you DS1 is pretty bad.
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>>183562774
Not even true. Stop being a shitter
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>>183564494

>Heavy on a Dark/Pyro Build
>DMB on a Dark/Pyro build

Are you high? The longest spear in the game doesn't become shorter when you infuse it with dark instead of heavy, and it still makes a strong, solid weapon
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>>183565092
>Using Bident on a pyro build

christ, man.
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>>183565186

>Not using the longest spear in the game because it doesn't hit max damage
>When your damage can't drop off from a duel charm or passive play

By the gods son
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So I'm doing my first DS3 playthrough but want to make an alt to invade in Undead Settlement dressed as a villager.

If I'm reading the doc right I need to keep it under SL 20 and +2 weapon?

Also what sort of build should I do? It'll either be the pitch fork or the big wooden mallet probably raw. Should I just throw the rest into health and end and throw on flynns?
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What the fuck is this bullcrap?

It's the fucking same boss with extremely delayed FUCK YOU attacks that instead of three shotting you now two shots you.

Worst part is the fucking run back. It's like fucking eastern front.

fuckin kill me
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>>183565479
>People use duel charms
>Wanting a spear in the first place as pyro

You're getting me really close to sweetieposting here.
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How bad is the drop rate for Heavy gems outside the Painted World?
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>>183565928
what a shitty looking boss lmao
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>>183565976

>People don't use duel charms on buff builds
>He doesn't remember the Gargoyle Flame Spear on Pyro/Dark builds

Honey, it's okay to admit you're wrong, you're clearly a little bit new to this game, no one's going to hold it against you. It's an anonymous imageboard, there's no shame here
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>>183566293
>EVER using Gargoyle Flame Spear
>Managing to get hit by a duel charm

AHAIAHijoooohhhhh.... oh, sweetie, no....
You see, snookums, there's just no way.... no, let me rephrase that for you sugar cube... There's a time and a place to talk about your shit builds and shit skill, but not now, poopsykins.
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>hollowslayer GS
>equip hornet ring and sword ring
>30 str and 40 dex
>backstab an angel
>1246 dmg

The bonus hollow dmg is insane against mobs
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>>183566727
Was it autism?
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>>183566794
Calm down, Hun.
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>>183566727
How new are you? Gargoyle Flame Spear used to be one of the best weapons in the game
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>>183564556
None of them are bad your computer is just a piece of garbage
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>>183566906
>IT USED TO BE GOOD SO I BETTER USE IT NOW
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>>183566727

You sound a little mad, and it took a hell of a long time for you to type so little

And do you really not remember the Gargoyle Flame Spear pre-patch? I mean I was joking when I said I thought you were that new but I'm starting to wonder now
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>>183566953
Sweetums, it took you over 4 minutes to type 3 sentences.

>>183566947
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>>183566947

>Referencing the pre-patch GFS in regards to the usefulness of a long ranged spear on a Pyro build
>Haha, you use the GFS in the current patch?

Again, back to the whole joking thing, I'm pretty sure the other anon was joking when asked if you had autism, but your inability to process the entirety of information given to you is again making me wonder.

It's either that or you're from /pol/ or /leftypol/ of course, pretty much the same thing
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>>183567035

And it took you 8 to post a couple incomplete sentences, if we're using you as a baseline I'm pretty quick on the keyboard considering I'm typing one handed
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>>183567148
Snookums, just because somebody makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean they're from /pol/.

A spear that gets amazing damage from a pyro build is amazing. A saint bident with a dark infusion is not amazing.
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>>183567239
>LOOK AT ME MA IM TYPING ONE HANDED

sweetiepie, there are other thing to do than look at one thread with one shitty conversation going on.
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What SL do i have to be for aldrich invasions? 60?
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>>183567243
>dark bident doesn't get amazing damage from a pyro build
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>>183567494
Around 60-70 honey, you'll usually find more shitters at higher SL

>>183567513
plz do not spread lies
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>>183567243

I was referencing your inability to intake full information in favour of whatever snippets fit your worldview. Which you're only making me believe more and more

And it's worth mentioning that the Saint Bident is infact weaker than a lot of the STR/FAI weapons, such as the Splitlead Greatsword, Crucifix of the Mad King, Murky Hand Scythe, Spiked Mace, LKGS. yet it's still used because of?

It's length, length that is still of great use on the Dark infusion

That's because in the current meta, weapon length, poise and combo potential are at the top. Saint Bident is a very long melee weapon, therefore it has great use on any build that can equip it
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>>183567342
>there are other thing to do than look at one thread with one shitty conversation going on.
Then why do you keep replying?
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>>183567575
>you'll usually find more shitters at higher SL
not really
you will find more gank squads and FCs though, which aren't really invasions
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>>183567579
Please try to avoid too much reddit spacing sweetie.
How you're playing a pyro where you want a weapon that makes people rush you is unknown to me. If you're using a faith build you have every reason to use a spear.

>>183567597
Because reading the replies is fun, dumpling.
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day 6 fighting the nameless king. fuck the camera in the first half of the fight.
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>>183568014
>day 6
you should have beaten him within the first 2 hours fucko, what in god's name are you doing
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>>183567843

I'm not sure of how exactly you go about running pyro builds, but I'm pretty comfortable in close range with them, what with two of the most abusive pyromancies being close range

And with Saint Bident getting an AR of between 467 and 499 depending on whether you're going 30/30 or 40/40, I'm even more comfortable. It's a quick, high damage weapon that still retains sizable strength even after split damage calculation, with the longest range of any spear at an incredibly low stat requirement, and to top it all off it hits aggressive players that much harder
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>>183567843
>How you're playing a pyro where you want a weapon that makes people rush you is unknown to me. If you're using a faith build you have every reason to use a spear.
Because 90% of pyro play is baiting people into rolling/running into black flame?
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>>183568069
two swipes from his fucking lightning lance kills you. how do you defend when he's doing a 10 swipe combo and stabbing you while doing lighting strikes? in the second half
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>>183568069
>taking 2 hours on any boss besides maybe midir if you went in blind

lmao

>>183568014
If you're having this much trouble just pay attention to every move and how to get past them, rather than just trying to win every time you throw yourself in there. Every single move in both phases are well telegraphed.

>>183568108
As a pyro I want a weapon that makes foes want to approach cautiously, which is the exact opposite of how a spear works out. Almost any build will be happy to trade with a pyro with 470 AR.

>>183568120
Nobody's going to roll near you when you're using a spear snookums.
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What weapons stand out around SL50?
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just got invaded sl50 at anal londo
glad to see this game is still alive
do we still host FCs?
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>>183568465

I've found it to work perfectly, being a long range edition to my arsenal that gets more range than the Red Hilted Halberd but sacrifices the Perseverance WA

Both are extremely useful weapons if you know how to use them
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>>183568465
I'm none of the people you've been talking to but when you resort to sweetie, dumpling, snookums as responses it's obvious you're a fucking retard
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>>183568465
2 hours is the absolute maximum for even the shittiest of plebs, not for the average player
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>>183568991
OH MY, dearie...
It was for fun, dummy. Try reading above.

>>183568805
Hey, good for you. I guess shitters have different ways of approaching their unique problems.
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>>183568465
>besides maybe midir

Not even in the top 3 hardest bosses how shitty are you?
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>>183569143
talking about if you're a shitter who has no idea what he's doing, midir is going to give you the most trouble.
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>>183568679
Heh, why do people try attacking when the other is spawning? I see this happen way too often.
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>have such good waifu creating skill and fashion sense that most invaders don't even attack anymore
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>>183569116

You're really coming off a bit upset by this whole conversation, like you're not used to people disagreeing with you. Has anyone ever used the phrase "Control Freak" when talking about you?

Hey, I'm sure you'll come up with a way of dealing with that unique problem of yours. While you're doing that, myself and just about everyone who's listened to your ranting and raving will be taking advantage of the Dark Saint Bident
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>>183569410
Calm down sweetie, remember we're just posting about a video game on 4chan here. Have fun with your slightly very shitty version of the Bident
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>two normies invite me into their PSN group to co-op
>they lose their shit every single time they lose a tiny amount of souls
>as in, 25 year olds screaming in anger over losing 20k souls while already being in The Ringed City DLC
>"Ah sorry bro, I can't play anymore, the game pisses me off to much"
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>>183569676

Hey man, whatever you say, don't want you getting any more stressed or whatever it is you're venting. It's just a game thread, no need to overexert. Might be time to take a break from that stressful job of yours
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>>183569836
I can't imagine chatting with the average souls co-op player

>>183569993
Oh, my sweet little snickerdoodle. No need to worry your round little noggin about any of this.
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>>183570074

Cool cool man, just take care of yourself yeah?
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>>183565928
>never got its superior version of the armor
>anus helm forever looks like shit
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>>183569271
I've been accused for cheating because the host hit me as I was spawning but didn't damage me
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What are some of the top DEX weapons worth looking into for an 80 DEX build?

I'm currently swapping between the Sellsword Twinblades with the OWCS for PvE, and I'm using the Murakumo, LKGS, LKLS, LKS, Frayed Blade and Dagger when I hit up PvP, so have I missed any interesting weapons or weapon combinations?
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>Earthen Peak, TRC DLC
>Untrue Dark Ring
>cute one-shot sorcerer waifu build
>guide the host and his sheep to the safe spots from the Angels with Prism Stones
>leave Purple Moss as gifts once they come out of the swamp
>make a lot of "Wave" and other meme gestures
>they completely trust you at this point
>one-shot the host once they're distracted by Zoey and her two minions

I must have killed at least a 100 hosts this way, its too damn fun.
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>>183570535
Crow quills aren't bad.
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>>183569836
>have the habit of always carrying tons of souls on me
>regularly lose souls within 80k range because in this playthrough I only ever visit firelink after bosses
>sometime don't even level up after bosses
>highest loss so far is >100k after beating Oceiros and Dragonslayer Armor
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oh shit
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>>183565928
This is literally the only boss in the game where I decided to exploit the despawn mechanic to kill literally every single enemy on the upper path before going to fight him.
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>>183570693
Devilish
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>>183570535
Astora
Crow Talons
Washing Pole
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>get invaded on my new character
>only stat I've pumped is dex
>never used katanas before, figured why not
>get invaded by a twink
>throws undead charms at me
>He's almost dead
>so am I
>I decide to heal
>he does too
>I get three shot because I have starting vit
>points down at me
>invades again while I'm fighting the darkwraith mobs
>kills me while I'm fighting it
>points down

I don't get it.
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>>183572152
git gud scrub XDXDXDddD
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>>183571027
>15 fps
Gross, but at least it runs.
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Finally got internet for my PC after playing SotFS offline the entire time, I was at the entrance of the iron keep and got invaded 3 times before I even reached the open area with an archer in the middle. Its really surprising that this game is still so alive all this time.
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>>183572247
It fluctuates around 30 actually. But I haven't even got to the menu yet. I get this screen then the titles of Atlus, From, Havok etc and then it freezes
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>>183571030
Hold on, what are you talking about here? I fucking hate iron passage and don't mind an easy out.
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>>183572514
You don't know? Killing an enemy enough outside CoC will stop them from spawning for the current ng cycle
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>>183558984
Solaire and Chester
Jester Thomas and Jester Thomas
Eygon and Alva
Valtr and Brador (actually the only NPC invader in Bloodborne)
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>>183572247

It can run really well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSRuhrdrP5Y

I'm excited to see if there are programmers skilled enough working on it who could make it render higher than normal resolution and maybe increase the framerate too.
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>>183572514
If you kill an enemy somewhere around 12-15 times, it stops respawning. You can join Company of Champions to turn respawns back on.

In my case I just tripped the lever on the upper section and spammed fireballs at the mobs that come out of the cells until they stopped spawning, then I ran through the door and killed the mobs on that side until they stopped spawning, and then I ran through the next door and killed the mobs in the last part of the gauntlet until they stopped spawning, so by the time I got to Blue Smelter's fog about a day or so later the only thing left in my path was the flaming armpit, which I spammed with spells until it stopped spawning. Then it just became an exercise of hitting the switch and dodging the fireballs while running for the door twice, and then navigating the dropdowns to get to Blue Smelter.
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>>183569836
I always go to level up when I have enough Souls for 2-3 levels when I'm low level and 1 level when high level.

>watch Lobosjr play BB for the first time
>he racks up a million Blood Echoes
>passes by a lamp after opening a shortcut
>doesn't go to the hub
>goes into the world and loses his souls because of a retarded mistake
>visibly pissed
>tries to hold a poker face and mutters "well I didn't care about Souls anyways..."

I love Lobos but this stuff makes me pull my hair out.
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>>183572943
That must've taken a fuckton of trips, jesus. FYI, you can cast dark fog in the cells to poison the ashen fucks without pulling the lever
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Can anyone tell me what are best PvE weapons for str/quality build?
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>>183573254
black knight
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>>183573254
any weapon you enjoy
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>>183573301
Black Knight what?! Greatsword or Axe?
Also 66/16 LKGS, or 40/40 BKGS?

>>183573360
I enjoy BKGA but shit takes too much stamina. So confused between BKGA or LKGA. Latter probably would fuck anything up with lightning weakness, but former feels it'll be overall better. Also cba to farm BKGA. Only have BKGS
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>>183573456
black knight anything
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Gentlemen, I have borne witness to a stunning cosplay of that time Solaire became an edgelord with a dark-infused dagger.
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How's Gotthard twinblades right now? I haven't played since a few months after the launch. They were kinda good back then
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>>183573456
>LKGA
sorry fuck now I want this
FROM
GIVE US THE SILVER K***HT WEAPONS, LEDO'S SET AND THIS
THANKS
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>>183573601
Fug. I meant to say confused between BKGS and LKGS.
Though isn't Dragonslayer GA basically LKGA, how would you even differentiate LKGA with DSGA. Though yeah, where the fuck are my Baller SKSS and SKS FROM?!
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>>183573583
>They were kinda good
You mean they were absolutely broken. They're still very good weapons now, the rolling L1 had its speed reduced but they still have the longest range of all SS. Work best on a dex build.
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Just bought the season pass after a year of break.

Are we still doing FCs here or is it already dead?

And is quality still viable?
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remove the hole from ringed knight chestpiece please kthanks
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>>183573698
Were they? I started using them by myself, didn't know they were broken and didn't see anyone using them either
But that nerf explains things
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>>183573737
>Are we doing FCs
From time to time
>Is quality still viable?
It's not the end-all be-all anymore, now it's just the build that allows you to use the most weapons at once with decent damage. For optimal damage pure Dex and Str are better (for infusable weapons, of course)
>>183573831
Have you not seen Scottjund's meme video about gotthard's?
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>>183572423
The very first area of Iron Keep is the game's unofficial dueling arena, so it's common for people to burn CREOs there.
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>>183573962
I really didn't follow the meme scene of DS3
Looking at the comments and complaints, it's a shame I never got hate mail or anything though
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>>183574040
The Redditbridge is alive even in vanilla.
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>>183574048
Yeah, swapping to them when you were at low HP was source of many fanmails
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>play pyro for the first time
>duel in pontiffs
>doing pretty good
>getting more hate mails than usual
>people estus out of frustration and anger
>people just suicide

Nice
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>>183574281
unless you use surge, the butthurt is unjustified
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>>183573791
Niqqa just wear the iron Dragonslayer chest piece.
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>>183574040
Oh wow I didn't know that, I was only able to win against the first invader since he gave me a free back stab. The others had extremely optimized builds and I couldn't compete as this is my first playthrough so I have no idea what to build.
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>>183573567
Obviously after Gwyn banished him, he fled to Londor where he became the acting Lord of Hollows and now he's back for revenge
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>>183571027
>>183572475
Did you get the link to download it from the previous thread? If so, which one did you use, the torrent or the DLL?
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What's the point of doing low level pvp again?

I've run into nothing but twinks min maxing. At least at 120 I'm also min maxed.
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>>183574353
Barely, surge is for tears usually, and that's pretty rare these days.
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>>183574712
At 50 in irithyl twinks are rare.
Usually it's people just going through the game, though their phantoms and blues sometimes min max
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>>183574712
what's the point of doing pvp again?
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>>183568756
No, no fun allowed.

Though I'd be down if anyone else was.

What would our password be anyway? I'm assuming something dank.
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>>183574816
dsg as always?
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>>183574805
I got invaded by a guy using Ringed city spells at level 20.

It's just annoying. I wanted to fight simply.
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>>183574805
How does SL50 twinking work?
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>>183573791
The ringed knight armor design is "okay" for that area but boy if it's not shit to try and mix with anything else.
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>>183574873
Welp, setting password to "dsg" and preparing to host at pontiff.

Feel free to join if you wish.

In all honesty this is probably just going to be plain horrifying witnessing whatever cancer builds you faggots have come up with.
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they need to add options to raise/lower helmet visors
and color armor pieces if it's available ala red/blue lothric k***ht

fashion souls is the true endgame beyond dung pie speedruns and that shit
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>>183575172
forgot to mention SL 70 though I can hop on my 120 character if we'd rather be at the meta level instead.
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>>183573737
oh god that's so good
if you used blessed weapon like a good boi it would've been an 1shot
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Let's talk about this.
I killed the gaping dragon in my second attempt. I didn't even look it up!
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>>183575395
+6
Don't go raw in ds1
EVER
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>>183575230
I like the Deserter set but would've been neat if we got the non-broken version the soldiers at Lothric Castle wear. Also the Consumed King's Knight armor.
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>>183575429
You got me convinced with your strong language (a.k.a the all caps text).
But tell me why
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>>183574571
I didn't use the torrent so I guess dll? Afaik, dll is a file type, but I imagine you mean dl link or something? I'm still trying to figure it out
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>>183575429
Strength / Dexterity scaling, right?
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>>183575446
>tfw no staff of oceiros
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>>183575472
You lose all your scaling on your weapon. Also going Raw means you cannot take your weapon to +11 or elemental later on. So you have to roll back to +5 .then upgrade it to +10.
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>>183575472
Raw does subpar damage, only reaches Raw+5, instead of Raw+10 and at base stats Lightning/Fire/Chaos infusions are just better.
>>183575545
Scaling depends on the infusion and while Raw technically is for vitgouging, it just doesn't work. It's bad. In DS2 it's a really great infusion for weapons that already have no scaling, like Bluemoon GS
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>>183575429
You have no idea what you're talking about
>>183575395
Raw will give you better damage but it only goes up to +5. Normal goes up to +15, but you need another ember to get above +10. Going raw is a good choice for up to the next area but you will soon find it lacking. You can go back to +5 to turn it to +6, but the materials will be gone and you will have to farm or buy them again. So, raw=better damage for a while, a bit of extra trouble on the long run, +6=slightly less damage progress with less farming
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we got 1 so far.
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ayy
sound is fucked up for some reason tho
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>>183575746
he keeps 1 shotting all the invaders. I'm scared.
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Siegward died fighting the demon. Is grierat's quest fucked?
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How much stamina do I need to use BKGA decently? Should I aim for Max 160 Stamina with Favor3 and Prisoner Chain?
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>>183576360
>great weapon
34 minimal, 40 optimal
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Asking out of curiosity, how do you guys usually name your builds? Repeat the same name, cosplay as someone or use a theme?
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Whats a good setup for Black Knight Great-Axe?
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>>183575375
That webm is before the pierce nerf

Is blessed weapon actually good now?

My main character is a quality knight without any magic or miracle so far.
But a buff wouldn't hurt him.

Seems like Straight Swords weren't nerfed, were they? My Refined SS still has 453 AR.

First DLC is a blast so far, although I have yet to meet a boss.
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>>183576469
discarding the weapon and using yhorm's big dick is the best bkga build
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>>183576282
You can still get Patches to save him in Irithyll
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>>183576612
Only change made to blessed weapon is that it doesn't look retarded like pic related anymore
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>>183575395
If you're never going to skill Str/Dex beyond the minimum requirements to wield (because you're doing a caster build), Raw. Otherwise, +6.
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Is the DLC supposed to be this hard? I'm playing through it and I'm getting my ass kicked (I just got to Vendrick).

Also, good gear for a caster using a DCB? I need poise bad!
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>>183576669
But how is he gonna steal Sieg's armo(u)r if he died?
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>>183575118
You make a perfect build around certain weapons aka min maxing?
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>>183575231
>>183575172
Launching my dreamcast at this very moment.
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>>183576751
>DCB
You're going to have to elaborate on what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>183576026
Let me know how far into it you can get and if theres any/many CTD's or horrid glitches. I have a NASA PC but I don't want to be dicking about with the emulated DeS till I know it's relatively stable
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Oh merciful goddess, mother of the forlorn. . . .
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>>183577062
Dark Crypt Blacksword
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>>183575726
>You have no idea what you're talking about
Not him, but right back at you. Raw is never EVER the right choice in DS1, even in the short term.

See the image he posted? Raw has 138 base damage and will receive no damage from scaling, Longsword +6 has 128 base damage and will. Do you actually think it will scale for less than 10 damage at +6? Even if he has base stats for it, a +6 will outdamage the raw.

Raw is NEVER worth it.
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>>183577297
You could just say Crypt Blacksword instead.

You don't really need poise as a caster, your stats are spread all over the place anyway (moreso as a Hexer, which has the most stat-intensive build requirements in the game). Poise is only there for if you're trying to trade hits, which is a PvP thing more than anything. Just equip cloth armor and leave it at that.

And yes, the DLCs are designed to kick your ass if you're a caster. Literally everything in the DLCs resist elemental damage, raw physical is the way to go.
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relic hailing from just after dlc2
how has the meta changed? is it still gs poise + quality? is it still roll roll roll roll r1 r1 roll? still infinite summons? is the map still linear as fuck?
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>>183577490
Meta is now either pure Str or pure Dex.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.
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>>183577436
oh that's just fantastic

Will a Crypt Blacksword do more damage in the DLC than a Dark Crypt Blacksword? I'm really not sure what I should do now, I really don't want to re-roll (But I might if I can find another Soul Vessel).

If I *were* to re-roll, what would be a good allocation of stats, for a SL 120 player, and what would be an optimum loadout to beat the DLC?
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Hey /dsg/, what are your favorite Souls ecelebs ?
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>>183577805
Generally you're advised to go through the DLCs at SL150 or so, they're end-game content that's much more difficult than the base game.

If you want physical damage, then get Santier's and infuse it Raw after breaking it. Having a reliable source of physical damage makes the DLCs easier.
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>friede and ariandale remark on you siding with londor
Wew lad
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>>183578437
What does Father Ariandel say differently if you're the lord of londor?
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>>183578006
Fightin Cowboy

>>183578757
Pretty sure he doesn't, it's Vilhelm that has different lines.
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I need help catching people who stop fighting and hold back until phantoms respawn. I don't know how to finish off players who walk back forever and roll when I swing. Do I need a rapier just for that running attack? Been using the mace with great success otherwise, I don't fear anything but god damn when people turn on maximum turtlemode I am clueless
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>>183576396
Is there a max stamina cap? Like if I got 40 End + Favor +3 would I have more than 160 stamina or am I stuck at 160-162 stamina forever?
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>>183577370
>Even if he has base stats for it, a +6 will outdamage the raw.
wrong. except maybe for really well scaling weapons like the great scythe. Also, after +6 you can upgrade 4 times. After raw, you can upgrade 5 times. Sure, it's obsolete trash the moment you get your hands on the very large ember and chunks, but at that point of the game it's solid
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>>183579073
The max stamina is 99 end with favor+3. Going over 40 end is stupid though, the returns are minimal
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>>183579073
FaP rings are flat percentage bonuses, and as a result they're able to bring you above soft caps. As I recall, 40 End and FaP+3 give you somewhere in the neighborhood of 180 stamina. Unless you're spamming ultra 2HR2s that amount of stamina is overkill, and with Dex weapons (that aren't ultras) 140 is usually enough.
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>>183579241
I'm using BKGA which is stamina hog, so I dunno how much stamina I should run with. Haven't ever been over 30 End in my life, but I can't swing 3 times with BKGA. Want to know if at 40 I can swing 3 times and have enough stamina to roll, or just stick with 2 swings and enough stamina to roll.
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>>183579136
Okay you ARE actually right, I was sure you got 0 scaling from Raw weapons. I'd still recommend against it if you're levelling the damage stats though (raw is only 4 AR higher). And obviously +15 will beat out Raw +5 even at base stats once you can get +15.
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Did TRC add any new good low-level twinking tools aside from +3 rings?
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>>183568679
>that knight slapping his greedy ass for that shit
that was disturbingly satisfying
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Unf, dem 11 fps hornet crits. I can see why people like this. Most animations look so sweet, even as a slideshow
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>>183579529
Fuck off.
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Okay can anyone tell me what the fuck's happening? I'm using +5 BKGA, with 40/20 STR/DEX at sl80 and I'm hitting people for 200 damage in PvP?
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>>183580318
is it the first hit? they could be wearing lloyd's
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>>183580409
Nope. Also was summoned as Blue and fought Kreimheld too, I was only doing 200 damage, though normal enemies were dying in 1 hit.
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So how exactly do I play pyro?
Do I just pump int/faith until I need more health/attunement slots or is there some better way to level
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>>183579529
>+3 rings
>good for twinking
wew, a whole 11 hp and 1 poise more
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>>183578006
Theyre all pretty bad except Camobear, though he isn't really known.

Cowboy is a fucking retard who thinks he's good, orborbrorbo is a shit can abusing as much as he can in order to win and iskys moved to streaming ds3 sadly so no one's left.
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>>183580931
iskys moved to streaming for honor* my bad, tough day at work l m a o
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>>183580931
theres literally nothing wrong with orboro you honorfag
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>>183578006
None, why care about ecelebs?
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Real PvP again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utJRnhP64II
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>>183578006
DS2 killed all good uploaders.
Now we only have awful memetic trash and e-sport rejects.
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>>183576705
>it doesn't look retarded like pic related anymore
haven't played for a while, what buffs still look like plastidip or has from finally come to their senses?
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Does the splitleaf GS WA combo only work with R1WaR1? Or can I also use R1WaR2?
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>>183581559
works with both but R2 does more damage
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I am starting to enjoy this.
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>>183580931
What does Camobear do?

>>183581229
>DS2 killed all the good uploaders
Sadly this
>tfw jblackmel hasn't uploaded anything in ages

On the PvE side Lobosjr still does a lot of Souls but he's mostly into challengeruns, Distortion2 and Elajjaz might still speerun but again that's a niche. I'm happy that ENB returned to playing DS2 and even said that he will probably do DS3 after he's done with that so we might see the conclusion to Dark Souls with him finally playing Ringed City. But as an uploader he used to be kind of lore centric and he flat out came and said he doesn't give a shit about lore anymore. And his best stuff was the researched material so we'll see how that goes. His DS2 run has been surprisingly entertaining thus far.
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Jesus Christ, Friede in hard as hell on SL 1? Second phase is hard already, but third seem just straight up impossible
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>/dsg/ actually cares about ecelebs beyond invading them while they stream
This place is far more gone than I thought.
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>>183580573
16vig, 18att, 20/15 Int/Fai ~14end
this should be your first stat priorities
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>>183581214
They keep raping him over and over again.
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>>183582826
this
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>>183582891

Well he's doing 1v3s. The fights are hilarious nonetheless.
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>>183582826
That is a pristine post. Mind if I ask you who you are quoting?
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Cute
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>>183582797
>second phase is hard
Equip scholar's and use storyteller's staff on the neckbeard, then go to town with the bleed bandit's knife. Keep an eye out for friede and a fire dagger at the ready. I'll agree though, 3rd phase is fucking nightmare
>>183583162
I don't know if placing Hodrick that far away from Sirris and the maiden is an oversight or a good call
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Is there any reason not to always use prisoner's chain on a melee character? -4% absorbtion seems like a very small penalty for 15 free levels
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>>183583325

There isn't, imagine if DaS had four ring slots, would you not use the FaP?
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>waiting for host to come back.
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Are regeneration builds any good right now?
Thinking about something like this for post-Dancer and DLC invasions.
650 AR even in split should dish out quite a considerable amount of damage.
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>>183583393
Even on 2 it's op desu
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>21 fingers
>4 rings
???
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>>183582826
I'm trying to stream snipe ENB but Soul Memory a shit. It will probably take until the DLCs before I can connect to piggu man. If you see someone dual wielding Porcine Shields that will be me
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>>183563065
pretty good
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>want to make 5-2 black phantom for DS3
>was going to use great machete and invade farron keep
>try out great machete's moveset
Why are all greataxes awful like this? At least those basic bitch hollows have a few horizontals when they use it. Greathammers are 100% better in pretty much every situation.

Is there a weapon I can use for this that isn't awful? Why'd they make the meat cleaver into the fucking garbage tier butchers knife
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I have been accepting every group invite I get after PvP and the list is getting big.
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>>183584427
Do people talk to each other in these groups?
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Would someone on PC be willing to buy/drop some white branches for me? I will give you souls to pay for them
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>>183584546
>0 in group chat * 10
what do you think
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>>183584687
I mean I thpught there was also kind of like a forum-like tjing in the groups or is the chat the only communication?
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>>183584546
They're only used to shitpost your opponents.
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>tfw can't be summoned by anyone in DS2 PC
no clue why, but it sucks when i do want to help others
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What kind of bossfights do you enjoy and what kind of bossfights do you dislike /dsg/?

My personal favorite bossfights generally tends to have the following features :

>fight against a single opponent or synced-up opponents
>boss is easy to keep on screen
>boss has a second / third phase which changes how the fight plays out
>has observable patterns
>boss is mobile and able to keep up with you in the arena but gives you a breather every now and then
>boss is fairly light on RNG and things that pad out the fight length too much like AoEs that last way too long or invulnerability periods

What about you guys?
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>>183585915
>Boss summons a player
Coolest fights to fight and be summoned by the boss
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>>183585915
bosses like:
Artorias
Nameless king (if the camera wasn't the hardest enemy in that fight)
False King Allant
Tower knight (although not hard, imposing)
Darklurker
Fume Knight
Sir Alonne
Burnt Ivory King
Champion Gundyr
Pontiff to a lesser degree
and although not hard, Aldrich because he keeps you on your toes with moving around and dodging things. no roll spam required unless you fuck yourself with arrows
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>>183585915
I honestly don't know if I can describe a favourite boss fight like that. But I guess
>not parriable
>can't keep hugging it
>forces you to dodge it's attacks in specific directions
>large healthpool so that you can't just get lucky but actually have to learn it's patterns
>impossible to cheese with spells entirely
>positioning matters at least for some of his attacks
And obiovusly good ost, as well as boss and area design.
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>>183585915
>It's not a Dark Souls 2 boss fight
Is the only category
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why are those threads so dead lately?
and btw, was that "aesthetic weapons tiers" list finished?
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Why are the armours in Lothric empty?

And does waking up Filianore send you forward in time, or just allievates a time stop on the ringed city? Also how did Gael have so much time to get there and devour the dark souls if the time stop wasn't lifted until you did that?
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>>183587248
Yes, Silver Knight Spear > Silver Knight Straight Sword > Everything else
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>crystal sage on a pure sorcerer playthrough
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>>183587574
>deep battleaxe
>raw anything
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>>183587574
>Dark Souls 3 with anything but pure melee
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>>183587379
We can ask ENB to answer that when he gets to Ringed City. And yes, DS3 playthrough confirmed, bitches!
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>>183587574
>Dragonslayer Armor on a pure sorcerer

Fighting it exclusively with Farron Flashsword is a blast, more bosses should have been weak to magic.
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>>183587574
>crystal sage on any playthrough
Shit boss.

>kill dancer before vordt
>parry greatsword lothric knight to death, farm him for sword
>get it
>acquire some chunks
>kill vordt and do road of sacrifice and abyss watchers, get large shards from smouldering lake
>+8 sword
>do oceiros and gundyr, trade coil for slab, +10 lothric knight greatsword
>do crystal sage
>have like 27 STR, 20 end, 29 VGR
>almost one cycle him before he teleports away and phase 2 begins
>a crystal shower is off centre and sprinting through it normally gets me staggered
>knocked down by purple dragon breath
>homing crystal ball closing in on me
>roll cancel the getting up animation, can't get far away enough from it, get hit by it
>staggered for lunar cycle
>get hit by blue soul spear
>1hp
>finally out of the stunlock, get behind cover and heal
>get hit by crystal hail again
>run over and finish him off
I don't think I've ever had good luck in this fight. Even when I get him to use HCSM in phase 1 and drop him to microscopic HP because he can't tele away, he somehow still pulls some S Tier bullshit in phase 2.
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>>183587803
I don't know who that is and I don't see how that's relevant
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>>183587574
>champion gundyr on pure sorcerer
It kills him fast as hell, but good luck actually managing to cast any spell in his openings
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haha i love when it slips my mind that i can't do leonhard's quest without getting blocked from doing sirris quest and i lose out on 3 (three) armor sets until new game plus :))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>183588069
Farron flashsword is an incredibly under-used spell.

Shit works really well on the longer staffs, especially pic related in combination with other harass and AoE spells.
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>>183588242
Can't you do Leonhard's after finishing Sirris?
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>>183588242
You can though. Just don't do leonhard's quest until you kill Lothric and Lorian.
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>>183588404
Yes, it takes 2 minutes to do late game and is a shitty uninteresting quest anyway. Just kill him if you want the armour/weapon
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>>183588242
Well people wanted NG+ content so here it is lmao.

>>183588120
THE loreguy for Dark Souls, the Vaati before Vaati. Personal connections with Fromsoft, worked on the guides for DS2 and Bloodborne.
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>>183588475
The only reason I could see anyone doing the full questline is for the CMS or getting Rosaria's Soul. Is it possible to get the soul by killing her?
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>>183588242
haha i love it when it slips my mind that I have to kill Yuria before the Abyss Watchers to get invaded by an NPC in the swamp which only invades once another NPC has been killed before her ::))))))))

she even spawns at the same fucking place lazy fucking fuck nip niggers

also:
>lmao better throw yourself to your death 5 times before you can have access to one of the most useful rings in the game
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>>183588451
You don't even have to wait that much. The moment you gank Hodrick you can kill her for her stuff
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>>183587574
>all dark sorceries are locked until you beat him
>there are no physical sorceries
hidden body+pestilent mercury and some throwing daggers seems like the only option
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>>183589208
I guess, but's that's rude. She kills herself after Lothric.
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>>183589001
>Recruit Yoel once found
>Ignore Yuria's questline
>Kill Pale Shade in Farron Keep
>Level up with Yoel enough for Yuria to appear before the Abyss Watchers
There you go
>>183589208
You'll lose out on the Sunset Shield that way
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>>183589335
No you don't, it's outside firelink after you bod the hod
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>>183589416
I read that wrong, as long as Hodrick goes down, the shield is there. My mistake.
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>Your qt host buffs you
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>>183557670
>just beat my first souls game
>took me 744 deaths

I-I was in the company of champions I-I have an excuse right?!
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>>183589672
Sure, it does make the game a bit harder.
Did you like it?
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>>183589672
I wish I had counted my DS1, DS3 and BB first run deaths. I only kept count for DS2.
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>>183589732
Yeah I really enjoyed it, I got a little burned out around the Shrine of Amana because I was playing 14 hours a day up until then, but after a small break my love was restored, although I think I'm going to wait till Tuesday until I start Dark Souls 1
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>>183589672
Congratulations, what was your favorite boss?
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>>183585915
boss is a no bullshit 1v1mefgt with a big dude with sword, no exceptions
>artorias
>the champ
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>>183590030
>Shrine of Amana
I don't blame you. Build / Fav boss?
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>>183590030
Did you play the DLCs?
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Anyone have suggestions for legs and arms that would go with the Slave Knight chest? I've got a look I like with the Desert Pyro Hood and the chest but I can't really find anything that matches for the legs outside of the Slave Knight pieces
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Can someone post the weapon tier list? I forgot to save it last time
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>>183589672
CoC isn't hard mode, it's return to formula. And since you can see your death there, you're offline, meaning no deaths to invaders. But hey, it also means no player phantoms either. If you didn't summon NPCs, you're ok.
Now go play ds1
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>>183590080
>>183590108

thanks! I was really hoping someone would ask me this

I played a pure STR character who used the mace + greatsword + tower shield + dragonrider's bow + butcher's knife

I liked Defender's of the Throne because it's the fight I died the most on, I didn't feel as if I was getting better at the fight after each death, but apparently I was because I kept getting further and further until I eventually kill it, I guess I just built up a "sense" for the boss.

The Rotten was the first fight that I had to learn to dodge for, and I really liked it because of that

The Smelter Demon killed me so many times and running back was almost as hard as the boss, but it was first time I nerd screamed after killing a boss in this game

Looking glass knight felt thematically awesome and it took me so long to whittle the bosses health down because of how careful I was playing, so I felt very tense the entire fight

Skeleton lords and Executioner's chariot weren't good fights mechanically, but they were fun thematically

>>183590193
Oh fug... I forgot about those

Hmm, I'm feeling kinda burned out from DS2 at the minute, but I can't just ignore the DLCs, I'll guess I head back in a few days and clean those up before moving on, heh, it almost feels like a chore at this point.
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>>183590694
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>>183590620
Fallen Knight Trousers
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>>183590875
thanks
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>>183590864
>Hmm, I'm feeling kinda burned out from DS2 at the minute, but I can't just ignore the DLCs, I'll guess I head back in a few days and clean those up before moving on, heh, it almost feels like a chore at this point.
the DLCs are the best part desu. Better bosses (two exceptions) and interesting areas.
I would honestly implore you to skip ice unicorns and cave gauntlet. You'll understand when you get to them.
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>>183591069
I'd also add Iron Passage to that
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>>183590864
The DLCs are really good, I think you'll like them.
Also, have you tries powerstancing?
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>trying to get summoned for Gael
>hosts rolling with 3 phantoms
>constantly get party wiped with Gael one shotting low VIG jackasses
>he has a million hitpoints and can't be stunlocked like Friede

Co-oping Gael kinda proves a point of some bosses being much harder with a group than trying to do them solo. Especially Gael who is very consistent when you're doing him 1v1 but is very erratic and dangerous when there's multiple people because you think he's gonna hit someone else and then he does a 180 and stomps you instead.

Shit was kinda cool though, it felt like we were hollow soldiers trying to take down a player character. It made me think how awesome it would be to watch a ton of random enemies and bosses spawned into his arena and Gael trying to shitstomp everything.
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>>183591168
>Iron passage
>Cave gauntlet
you didn't draw the correlation there? Didn't want to spoil the fun of fucking up the first 40 times
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>>183590864
Good taste bruh. Definitely play the dlcs if you liked base game, they're its strongest part.
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>>183565928
Isn't there a hidden bonfire right next to the boss room?
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>>183591224
When you said Cave gauntlet, I was thinking Cave of the Dead
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>>183568679
That is a wonderful webm.
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>>183591181
nah I've never bothered with it, what's it like?

>>183591290
>>183591069
Yeah I'll definitely do so in that case, oh boy, I can already see myself raging at Fume Knight
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>>183591552
Despite what people say, Fume Knight is tough but fair. He has very few, if any, cheap shots.
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>>183569271
Because most hosts are terrified of invaders and just want you to go away, so they panic and just mash buttons

What they don't get is that as an invader, this reaction makes my dick hard
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>>183591620
unless you got low agi and he does the flame sweep. don't think you can roll through that since it's so slow
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>>183591015

I'm liking the gauntlets on it, but the legs are too unarmoured for my liking

I reckon if I need light armour such as when using a heavier weapon I'd fall back on that though, so thank you

Have just tried the Millwood Leggings/Gauntlets, they seem to reasonably fit the colour, if not exactly. Might actually put a touch more into VIT to main that
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>>183590620
Silver Knight leggings.
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>>183590875
>BKGA lower than DGA
>Knight's Crossbow lower than heavy Crossbow.
Why?
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>>183591620
How are we defining cheap shots?
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in Dark Souls 3 what's the best int sorcerer build? I'm kinda clueless, not sure what weapon I should scale and use primarily
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>>183591754
You can but you have to time it right. It's much easier to run around him though
>>183590620
Sellsword?
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>>183565928
get smelted fag lmao
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>>183592184
BKGA has no fucking range. Seriously, you understand that most weapons have phantom range, but the BKGA has inverse phantom range. I swear to god the hitbox is smaller than the weapon model.

DGA is pretty good. The WA has a lot of HA and deals a fuckton of damage with an area splash, and in general it has high AR, even accounting for the split damage. Most builds can't use it because of the reqs, but it's pretty damn good.

Heavy Crossbow doesn't split AR, has a much higher physical AR, and only weighs .5 more. I agree that the two should be in the same tier, though.
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WHY
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>Want to do another fisting run in DS2
>Want to do it in CoC
>Remember that darklurker needs PoD
FUCK. Why do you have a boss tied to a covenant and force us to be in the covenant while fighting him. I want to MANFIGHT him proper
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How do I deal with RKPGS L1 spam?

I know I should be able to deal with it, but I have no idea where to start.
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>>183592460
Because fuck you

Try the Ethereal Oak Shield
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>>183591920
I tried both the Silver and Black, the Black definitely fits better

>>183592249
The arms don't really fit and again, the legs are unarmoured. Plus, they're quite skinny which doesn't fit the squared shoulders of the Slave Knight chest
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>vordt's greatmace +2 on SL30 build
>a single r1r1 combo does something like 700 damage in pvp thanks to frostbite trigger
Is STR the best low-level invasion build after raw DSA?
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>>183592223
havel monster MLGS or heysel pick if you want to cast something
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>>183592416
I personally value Heavy Crossbow more because it's just a slightly worse Arbalest which means it works amazingly with Exploding Bolt memes compared to Knight Crossbow which only really shines with Lightning Bolts. If there were arenas or popular FC spots that were in water it'd be higher.
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DaS1, Heavy or Light crossbow?
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>>183593051
>Is STR the best
FTFY and yes.
It's silly how good just maxing STR is. fuck diversity and fuck interesting builds. STR and roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll
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>>183592591
Use a weapon with perseverance if you are really bad at dealing with it.

If you have any competency in spacing also just roll past users of it at a diagonal angle and backstab punish them if they keep pressing L1. You can also stay just outside of the range of the first L1 and punish it perfectly every time they use it once you compensate for latency.
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Does dark souls 3 stutter a lot for anyone else?

I'm not sure if it's my computer or if the game is running worse since being patched, I remember the gamer running fine at launch
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>>183593145
DS1 crossbows are equally awful, don't ever bother.
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>>183593051
STR is best in low level invading because point for point it's more efficient, you need less of it to get good damage numbers at low levels, so you have more points free for vig and end.

All of my low level invaders are STR builds, except for one poise wizard with an MLGS
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>>183586569
>Alonne
>Ivory King
>Mirror Knight
k
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What is the current state of dark sorcery builds?
Is murky with 60 INT hitting hard enough or i'm better to go for Izalith?
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>making new build
>collecting gear, leveling to 120
>get bored
>PvP in SL 80 bracket for a while
>queues are longer
>everyone's build is godawful
>most people forgot to level VIG
>casters deal shit damage or die in one combo
>maybe 20% of people have a properly optimized build

Why the fuck do people push this bracket again? This is terrible.
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>>183593249
It stutters on console too.
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>>183593761
Murky with 60 INT will hit harder than Izalith Staff at 40/40 only when it's unique WA chant is active, otherwise Izalith will have a noticeable damage edge when normally casting. Personally I find Izalith worth it more if you want to cast dark sorceries since the WA chants don't last that long at all and just leave you open to hits if you try to activate them more than once in a fight, plus getting up to 40 Faith gives you good innate defenses against Dark which is very useful nowadays.
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>>183593839
>>everyone's build is godawful
>>most people forgot to level VIG
>>casters deal shit damage or die in one combo

You said it here yourself man. You either die quickly or win quickly. At 120 you sometimes get into annoying long cutscene of trading and, or rolling alot. And those 20% would most likely be running a build close to each other, and most people get bored of that. So they try to branch out and die.
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>>183593761
Izalith. Murky is only worth it for the wa, even court sorcerer is better
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>>183593839
>Why the fuck do people push this bracket again? This is terrible.

People who only want to invade newbies at the end of NG because they're too scared of fighting experienced players or memers doing optimized 40 STR or DEX builds which are the only 'duel' builds you can do at 80 and think that's great build diversity.
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>>183593249
>>183593923

All Soulsborne games are shittily optimized or there is something inherently performance-crippling about the games. I switched to PS4 since my PC can't really run DS3 worth shit but the performance is still bad in fights like Demon Prince / Old Demon King, basically when a lot of effects happen. It's pretty funny in Bloodborne when a boss dies because the blood rain will slow the game to like single digit fps.
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>>183593761
Murky is for low FTH, Izaalith does more if you have 40/40 INT/FTH

But "dark sorcery builds" are just sub-optimal pyro builds. With roughly the same statline, you run pyromancies which are more flexible and generally better than dark magic.
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>>183592724
At any rate, you have to try the mod that removes the capelet. It's fucking sweet
>>183593051
Not str. Vordt's. Str is generally bad at low level because of stamina limitations. It's only saving grace is WAs. Str weapon WAs are mostly great at low level, especially things like lkgs stomp which rape the cocky downscaled phantoms with friede's/2gs
>>183594116
I don't know man, I seem to find equal amounts of good players and shitters at any bracket
>>183593839
My guess is most of the people are on their way to 120 and as such they ignored vig to blow up PvE faster. Unless if you're dueling, then they're just irredeemably shit at making builds.
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>>183593839
Because 120 is where the tryhard duelists go, and that makes it boring as fuck

>If you attack first you lose

Nice meta
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>>183594620
>I don't know man, I seem to find equal amounts of good players and shitters at any bracket

That is a fair point, one of my favorite things is keeping CE open during duels and checking the stats of players after fights. The amount of people at 27 Vigor or below or completely bizarre set ups like 30 Luck without using Hollow/Bleed weapons is hilarious.

>>183594786
>dude tryhard lmao

Not an argument.

>if you attack first you lose

That is PvP and PvE in every Souls game in a nutshell at every SL.
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>>183594035
is that a sage+2 dark edge?
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>>183594905
yes
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>>183594867
>That is PvP and PvE in every Souls game in a nutshell at every SL.

Yes, OK? I never said it wasn't. Doesn't make it fun, and it's still the primary reason structured PvP has no place in the Soulsborne genre.
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>>183595050
>Doesn't make it fun, and it's still the primary reason structured PvP has no place in the Soulsborne genre.

I like the general combat of Souls games and doing duels with people who don't take it as a 'competitive fighting game' so when you get fights like that it's a lot of fun. I think a game with multiplayer like Souls is only fun if you keep a certain awareness of its flaws and try not to mechanically delve into them.
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I just woke up from a dream where I was playing Demon's Souls.

Not a dream where I was in the Demon's Souls world
Not a dream where I was the playable character in Demon's Souls

I was just sitting in front of a TV playing Demon's Souls, after which I got up and went to class and talked to my friends about Demon's Souls
I don't even have friends, it was just rando people I've known throughout my life

What does it mean, /dsg/?
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>>183595298
Pretty much, but that relies on playing sub-optimally specifically 'for fun', which people who are duelling at 120 don't do.

I like being aggressive, but it just doesn't work outside of invasions.
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>>183595298
Souls multiplayer is fun for all the mindgames that go on in different scenarios. I find it fun to invade and push people out of their comfort zone but duels can also give you a good sense for what your opponent out in the field is going to do. Although with duels since you can't chug it's easy to forget how to punish sippy if you only do duels.
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>>183595540
It means you're playing too much anon
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>>183595607
I haven't played Demon's Souls in like a year, and I haven't played a Souls game in general since a random allboss DaS1 run I was doing a couple weeks ago.

I think it's just a sign from god.
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>>183595569
Arena duels sure but FCs especially /dsg/ ones have a lot different mindset when it comes to duels which lets things play out in an experience that's not as mind-numbingly awful until someone brings a buffed Splitleaf or Crucifix but that's just an awful scenario no matter what.

>>183595582
Estus is almost impossible to punish outside of duels anyway let alone in ways that creates a health deficit for your opponent when punishing compared to the health they gained back by drinking. if you don't have vestiges or they are sipping literally right in front of you while you have an ultra they'll always get some more health back then they lost.
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>>183595540
dont let your memes be dreams
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>>183595827
FCs aren't so bad
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>>183595540
I've had similar dreams with Starcraft 2 anon

Is Demon's souls that good?
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>>183596060
It's the best Souls game but these fags will never admit it
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>>183596247
BBS best weapon. Umbasa!
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>Leo Ring Warpick counter damage

Oh my god
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>ds1 has no obscuring ring which greatly devalues possible obscuring ring shenanigans because it's ridiculously easy to see you even with fog ring
I mean ds1 invasions are like kicking a baby but when i try anything more or less creative the game's age really shows.
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>>183596782

DeS had an obscuring ring.. Fog Ring is just a different approach.
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So I'm currently running an 80 dex build, I highly doubt it's an ideal one in the first place (120, 14/80, 29 END before P-Chain, 34 VIG before P-Chain), but I've come across a problem of sorts

I'm struggling to find a weapon that is a solid PvE damage dealer (Like the Sellsword/OWCS combo) that also performs really well in PvP. I'm currently doing co-op runs in the Grand Archives and I can either set myself up to fight in PvP with weapons like the LKS or Frayed Blade, or set myself up for PvE with pontiff rings and the sellsword/OWCS combo

Does anyone know of any weapons available to 80 DEX builds that really perform well in both? Daggers are obvious but I've found that either my host or the invader tends to have off internet connections. Which of course means it must be me
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>>183596782
Obscuring Ring is the best thing added for invaders
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>>183597141
>80 dex build
why people are even doing this?
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>>183597141
Almost everything that isn't clearly a STR weapon is best made Sharp. Take your pick.

Sharp Astora GS is what I used to clear PvE. It's good, fun and you can get it early.
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whats the sm and sl meta for 2?
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>>183597473
Because the gains from 40-80 are real and sharp is legit
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>>183597473
Because 80 is one of the caps, and it gives you different weapons to try

>>183597576
Yeah, could give my old Claymore a try. The issue again is, most weapons that really perform well in PvP don't necessarily get the best bang for their buck in PvE such as when trying to speed up boss kills

I do like the AGS though, and with it being a light UGS maybe it's what I'm after for the poise meta
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>>183597473
Sharp scaling is weird. It plateaus a bit after 40 DEX, but after 60 it scales like sub-40 again until you hit 80. By then you have some pretty nutty AR on a lot of weapons.
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>>183597473
take a guess
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>>183597473
because you don't get good dex gains until after 60
there's a graph floating around that an anon made to illustrate the concept, but basically 60-80 has the same AR gains as 20-40
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Can anybody post the most recent "best weapons" list? Thanks in advance.
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>>183598192
>>183590875
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>>183598234

Oh lol, thank you.
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>yesterday
>farming bird ninjas for sharp gems on ariandel
>more than 30 ninja bird kills
>1 gem

>today
>4 ninja bird kills
>3 gems

gives me __________
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>>183598037
Is that only for sharp infusions?
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>>183598807

Semi-horns
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>>183599070
Heavy is fairly linear past 40 all the way to 99, IIRC. Not as good as Sharp, but the gains are solid.
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I kinda started this series backwards (BB then DaS3 now DaS2) so I might be missing something here but what in the hell is wrong with the movement in DaS2? I feel like I'm driving a truck, it's so awkward. Is it closer to DaS or is it doing it's own thing in this regard too as it seem to be in so many other ways?
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>>183598807
the willies
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>>183596663
I know man, I know
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>>183600252
ds2 is doing its own thing and honestly shouldn't be called a dark souls game but rather kickstart its own series
if you can't stand it just go to ds1
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>>183600252
Dark souls 2 is slower and focuses on stamina management. It also depends on what type of weapons you use, however. For example, if you use a mace you will feel really, really clunk thanks to the useless moveset. Still, dark souls 2 has fairly fast attacks to compensate stamina cost. The Ultras in that game was godly, and I wish dark souls 3's ultra also have some of that speed.
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>the poise is still broken
Japs cant make games desu senpaitachi
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>>183600631
>>183600661
So 2 is not like 1 in terms of controls? Cause I don't think I can handle this. Maybe it's being too use to fast paced combat from BB and 3 but god damn, this is rough. I can see the stamina management side of it though, that gets eaten up like crazy.
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>>183600856
Fuck off InfernoPlus
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>>183597473
gotta do something with those extra 60 spare levels on my '''build''''
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It's been more than two months since the last time I played DS3, did any relevant changes happen?
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>>183601097
No. Still shit.
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>>183601079
Why don't just stay on lower levels then?
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>>183601097
Not really, the only patch that happened just fixed a few minor glitches with no real balance changes.
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>AFK host
>Being guarded by parryman
>His hornet ring riposte hits me for half my health
>In exchange he drank five estus while he was whiffing and I was jamming a warpick into his head
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Backstabs the air: the game

Why is ds3 so shit lol?
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>>183601649
Better than DaS1's janky ass backstab mechanics
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>ds3 faith builds
>have access to fast attack miracle, heals, aoe, nukes, buffs
>have access to lighting arrow, arguably one of the best attack miracles in the entire franchise
>have access to dark, lighting, physical damage and easiest way of causing a massive bleed buildup in the game
>have some of the best weapons in the game like bident or crucifix exclusive for them
>can branch into regenerator builds with fairly low stat investment and good investment/damage ratio
>need only 1-damage stat investment unlike pyros
How can any other non-physical builds compete?
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>>183601761
worse*
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>>183601649
>>183601158
>Still butthurt that everyone hates DS2
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>Host and two phantoms are all fatrolling
>They have a dried finger active
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>>183601829
Mayne im just too inexperienced but i found all casters so be so weak. even with multiple slots and faster casting its slow and boring. always running to ready a new spell.
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>>183600954
Control is similar, but there are changes such as all directional rolling and lock-on sprinting that somehow allowed for faster-paced PVP, but enemies are slow(er) and more accurate so it doesn't really work for PVE
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>>183602029
I hate ds2. Ds is bad game serie.
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>>183590875
>Saint Bident that high
Since when is it good?
>>
Anybody host an FC?
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Why do people constantly say BB is the superior to all the souls games?

You can't compare BB to souls, it's literally a straightforward hack n' slash with minor rpg elements.
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>>183602763
Fuck off
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>>183602763
>it's literally a straightforward hack n' slash with minor rpg elements.
Just like Souls.
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Why do some people disconnect when an invader arrives even if they have phantoms?

I don't get it. Are they that terrified of the big bad red?
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>>183597756
anyone?
i just want viable PvP
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>>183602746
Bident has always been decent, it was way underrated just because of it's low damage. It was always the second longest spear behind Flame Spear, and since Flame Spear got its range nerfed along with its damage Bident is now the longest spear. The infusion changes also benefited Bident greatly as it gains good Strength scaling from Heavy infusion now. That means you can go to 26 Strength and twohand it to reach the first Strength softcap easily since spears have the best moveset twohanded anyway. Combine that with 60 Faith for Bident's innate Faith scaling you have an about 400 AR pure physical spear that also benefits from a 60 Faith Darkmoon/Dark Blade since Bident is buffable. With its amazing range and potentially insane damage level paired with the great basic spear moveset the Bident is a monster if used properly now.
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>>183602754
I can host tomorrow since I'm away from my main computer until then.
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Whats a good name/character appearance for swamp twinking? I dont want to be just another r1 spamming neon skinned guts/shrek/artorias shitter
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>>183603324
Which Swamp? I guess you mean Dark Souls 3?
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>>>183597756
Not much of a meta, really. Duelfag range is fucking enormous. My SM 8.5M is still getting summoned by people on NG runs.
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>>183603442
Yeah sorry, DaS3 swamp invades. Gonna try to grind out 30 ears for the miracle achievement, and if Im gonna be stuck with a character for the million hours its gonna take I want it to be at least a little bit fun or interesting.
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>>183603324
[Name] of Farron
[Name], Legionnaire
[Name] the Heretic
[Name] the Forlorn
Forlorn [Name]
Swamp Witch [Name]
Shaman [Name]
[Name] the Exile
Wanderer [Name]
Renegade [Name]
Lost Knight [Name]
Follower [Name]
Outcast [Name]
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should i continue using a mail breaker early game with a sorcerer build or is there a better weapon i can find and buff?
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>>183603659
I will assume you mean the Crusifix swamp then
what about doing a merc looking guy with the lucerne? or a swamp pyromancer
Not like a swamp gives a lot of options
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>>183604037
Daggers are good to buff, but you could use a raw longsword instead.
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>>183604037
Get a Longsword or Lothric Knight Sword from the knights, once you get the Sage's Coal from Farron Keep crystal infuse one of them. Alternatively if you can kill Dancer and Oceiros early the MLGS is a great option.
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Well lads, I'm officially starting my soldering iron run on a fresh character(with cheat engine of course), wish me luck.
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>>183604037
Long sword, broad sword, bastard sword, claymore, halberd, red hilted halberd, mace, estoc

Mailbreaker is honestly not even that bad though if youre enjoying using it. if not, switch.
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>>183604281
>Crystal infuse

Better off raw infusing with great/crystal magic weapon
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>>183604369
Stay safe, y'hear?

Nobody wants to see you go hollow
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>>183604369
Peace.
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>>183604554
Crystal Magic Weapon won't be available until Dungeon and Great Magic weapon until 60 INT isn't worth it over a resin, Crystal infusion gives you a weapon with nice consistent damage giving you room to use the actual spells you want on a sorcerer, the melee weapon should ideally be a backup or trash mob killer anyway.
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>go through the trouble of lighting all the scones in the gutter to get the gutter denizen to invade
>want the black witch set early for my hexer waifu
>fight him on one of the above platforms to not have to deal with the hollows below
>kill him
>the item falls through the floor and becomes inaccessible
haha fucking kill me
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why is dark souls 3 so boring to play through brehs
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>>183604369
why isn't SI meta with all the 69% builds?
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>>183598124
It's actually an entire spreadsheet, albeit woefully incomplete.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfy4svIKQL8Qw3UEW06B3dI8NFgMvi1sA-F5oZC9A-w/edit#gid=0

>>183598031
Technically there is scaling after 80, but it's a gradual falloff curve thing like with Vigor. It's like how most people stop at 39 Vigor but there are still moderate gains up until 50.
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>>183604790
If you reload the area it should respawn at wherever the invader spawns. At least, Im pretty sure it should.
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>>183600252
>>183600954
If you're playing it on PC, I'm pretty sure you need to get a dead zone fix in order to move in more than 4 directions.
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>>183605001
PS4 :(
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Best class to start in ds3 for a dex build?

Wanting to be around sl 100
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>>183605417

Are you aiming for 40 or 80 dex?
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>>183605417
Mercenary
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>try to get the black knight halberd as soon as possible in DaS
>20 tries already
>5 shields but not a single halberd

JUST
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>>183605509
80
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>>183603324
Building off this anon what's the best Maneater Mildred cosplay for Road of Sacrifices/Farron Keep

What's the max I can enchant the Knife to? +3? And what'd be the best strength for that?
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>>183604816
Linearity and it feels like the earlygame areas are packed full of annoying busywork.

DS3 really picks up in the late game and around Lothric Castle but during the time of the original release this was a very small comfort because because then the game is almost over.

The DLCs are pretty good though.
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>>183601829
>have absolute shit for Miracles for the vast majority of the game
>most of the Miracles you do have are absolute dogshit until you start getting past 40 Faith
>can't even use most of the Dark Miracles until at least halfway through, because lolcorruption
>Divine Braille Tome of Lothric, full of good early game spells, isn't even available until right before the end of the game
>basic Lightning Spear is dogshit, despite being your only reliable ranged damage source until Lothric Castle
>Lightning Stake is barely better since it requires a shitload more faith than you'll have for a while
>your only good early-game Miracle is Dorhys' Gnawing, which you don't get until shortly before the halfway point of the game
>you have to mindlessly grind Ears for a few days to get DMB
>Lightning Arrow isn't even available until shortly before the end of the second DLC
>you can't get Sunlight Spear until AFTER you beat the fucking game
The cost of Faith builds in DaS3 is that the buildup is the absolute worst of any possible build across all five games. Even SKL/BLT builds in BB have it easier because you have options for rushing through parts of the game to get to Cainhurst early, and no such options exist for DaS3.
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>>183603596
there really should be some rough number though, i mean it would probably make DaS2 PvP a lot more lively
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>>183605227
Then you should be fine, the movement system is only really fucked on the PC version I think.
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>>183605732

Mercenary gets you 10/80 with hunter ring and the minimum VIG and END for a melee build, Knight gets you 14/75 with minimum VIG and END

Personally I'd sooner use Knight for the weapon variety, unless you want to be missing out on the harder hitting DEX weapons
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>>183570693
You are the worst kind of person.
I approve.
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Does the battleaxes one handed light attack have more range than its two handed light attack? Or am I just imagining it?
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>>183605858
I consider fai caster to be more of an ng+ experience and it's an absolute blast if you look at it that way
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>>183606114
No, the two handed attacks of axes always have more range.
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>>183605981
I've been playing on PS4 and it feels awful
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Should you always go to 50 vigor if you can?
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>>183600252
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>Like the aesthetics of the Winged Spear
>Its actually a shit weapon with a shit moveset
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>>183606379
I wish it was just that. Everything feels sluggish and underwater. Much more restrained than the other games I've tried.
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>>183606362
In 3 no since the gains aren't worth it and you could put those points in something better instead unless you're going to 150 or some meme level
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>>183606573
Yes, that is the main thing with DaS2, it's the slowest out of the series (except maybe Demon's). The whole thing with DaS2 is that it's about planning ahead, optimizing your build and committing to your actions, rather than twitch reaction dodging as with Roll Souls 3. If you commit to a bad decision, you can be punished for it.
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>>183605858

I didn't mind it, just meant I had to play differently. I could either go full support mode, throwing out healing spells and the occasional bit of damage while my phantom/phantoms did the brunt of the damage, or I could forgoe Faith until a higher level and solo the game with a VIG build until I could get the spells needed to make FAI work
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>>183605893
Duels are usually pretty lively depending on your timezone. I did Iron Keep Bridge for 12 hours last night with no noticeable falloff in players.

>>183606275
Every 12.5% equipment load subtly decreases your movement speed. Never wear over 50% unless you plan to facetank the whole game.
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>>183607024
Funny how hard you try to defend that piece of shit with your
>It's Management Xd
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>>183607124
what if i wanted to do bellkeeper tower invasions tho?
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>>183607024
I hear that. Makes you have to be a little more committed since you can't roll out of literally everything like BB taught me to do. Can't say I'm enjoying it, but I see what you're saying.
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>>183607024
ds2 is just some weird-ass thing that tries to be both an arpg and dungeon crawler and fails at both
its planning and build creation is puddle deep, its arpg combat is by far the worst in series
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>search for information about literally any spell, weapon, ring etc from dark souls 3
>most of the top results are reddit posts from april 2016 and are irrelevant/out of date
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>>183607124
Can I actually tank? I wanted to do that in 3 and it seemed impossible.
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wtf the Halberd moveset in ds3 is so bad

it was my favourite weapon in ds1
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>>183607024
>optimizing your build is great in this game! (It's not)
>Game, enemies, bosses and everything else is shit
ahhhhhh yesss
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>>183606379

Ugh, seeing this makes me feel irrationally uncomfortable. It's like that feel when you feel like you have to stretch your limbs, and that the feel just doesn't go away no matter what you do.
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>>183607528
ds3 halberds are literally improved ds1 halberds, the fuck you're smoking
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>>183606820
What's a better number then?
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Why can't pontiff fights be so much nicer and just let you invade into fight clubs instead of gank squads
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>>183607652
39 is the best stopping point.
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>>183607412
That's mainly because of how shit shields in general are in DaS3, and how powerful rolls and sippies are. Plus how most of the bosses force you to stay under 70% equip load just to be able to abuse the rolls.

Yes, you can make a tank build in DaS2, because the greatshields are the best they've ever ben there are options for making them even better. With the proper build, you can literally have a 98 stability greatshield that blocks 100% of all incoming damage.
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>>183607586
>thrust
>thrust
>thrust

wow so fun
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>>183607320
what do you need, dumb frogposter?
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>>183607904
just like in ds1 then?
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>>183607697
Because any competent host is going to host a FC while un-Embered, to prevent random CEtards from crashing their fun.
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>>183607024
He probably just didnt have his adaptability up to 30. Healing with estus was atrocious without that.
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Can someone post a good miracle build please
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>>183607185
I'd assume you're SoL. DS2 made the mistake of giving the area defense covenants completely optional areas. I've been summoned by three Ratbros and encountered exactly zero Bellbros accross both versions of the game.

>>183607412
With a solid set of medium armor (Vengarl+Drangleic is the pisspants of DS2, but for good reason), very few enemies will win a trade against a UGS. There are also a multitude of shields with 100% reductions, so anyone can beat the game without a single roll.
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>>183607586
Except for the R2, which in Dks1 was insanely quick
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Explain to a shitter how you want to approach pvp with something like a Ledo's
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>>183607889
That might be kinda fun.

Sippies?
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>When you kill the host's phantom buddies so he runs terrified into a pile of Ghru and gets raped
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>>183608184

Pure FAI poisecasting or STR/FAI/?

I'll post my personal Miracle build. Adjust to suit your taste, it's not perfect as I took the screen shot before I'd finished making adjustments
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>>183608021
does pontiff's left eye work with farron flashsword/pure magic damage?
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>>183608339
Attack second. If you attack first with a GH, GA, or UGS, you lose automatically.

Yes, it's retarded and will often lead to two people just circlestrafing each other forever.

Great weapons are only good in invasions.
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>>183608525
Is this good for sunlight spear casting?
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>>183608543
Good question, I've never checked it.

I mean, Farron Flashsword doesn't combo hard enough to be worth it, but it's still a good question.
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>>183608339
you get yourself an offhand arbalest to pressure passive players
but generally ultra weapons shine in random invasions
shine really fucking well though
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>>183608339
Backpedal for 10 minutes until your opponent loses his patience and attacks, then swing and hope you killed him. If you didn't, 20 goto 10
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>>183608525
I have no idea.

I just finished the main game. don't have the DLC cuz poor

Was 40dex 40str build, but just used a pale tongue to reset.
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>>183608437
Using your Estus Flask. If you notice, sipping in DaS3 or popping Blood Vials in BB is retardedly fast, with not many ways for the other guy to punish you for doing it right in their face (short animation, movement while healing, instant HP, almost no recovery time). None of that applies to doing that in DaS2, where you have to stop in place and take at least a full second to pull out your flask and take a sip, after which your HP gradually recovers over time and you still have to avoid getting hit until you finish healing.
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>>183608456
>leo
>knight's with lightning
wouldn't heavy with heavy be better? there's not even much water close to there
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>>183608663

Well yeah, it has room for the two damage rings, close to max cast speed and a poisecasting tool
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>>183608332
It's so good though to get rolling backstab fishers
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>>183608907
Water status effect doesn't exist in DaS3. And I'm pretty sure K***ht's Crossbow with Lightning Bolts is good at low levels because people forget to level Endurance.
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>try the astora UGS in a duel
>opponent using a straight sword and a shield
>as soon as he sees my weapon he switches to the murky scythe
>quickstep spam
>I can't touch
>rope firebomb and hit him
>he kept doing it
>gets killed

ROPE

I'm fucking done with pvp
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>>183608846
Oh right yeah. Found that out the hard was in DaS2
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>>183608184
Here's my preferred fai setup.
On paper pyromancer loses around 3 levels to cleric of the same stats, BUT he becomes more stat-efficent if you decide to go for the crucifix of the mad king and you fucking should because that thing is nuts
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>>183609225
not him but lightning bolts have an AOE effect when they hit water
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>>183609225
Yeah but hitting water with lightning still creates the aoe. And it doesn't seem particularly low level. Anyway, I meant for the counter damage
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>>183609226

I always keep a faster weapon on hand if I run into that sort of thing, like an LKS. Straight Swords are an excellent counter to Quickstep users
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>>183609446
How do you get the ring of the sun's firstborn?
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>>183609446

I'd say a Knight would be better for that sort of build. Plenty of room for 26 STR, 16 DEX, 11 INT and 60 FAI, and if you go 125 you have enough room for 24 ATT easily, meaning you hit the full caster range for when you need to switch things up

So you end up with more weapon variety, more armour, and your weapons scale to the STR softcap when 2-Handed
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>>183607528
That was the only game with good halberds, they're ass in 2 and 3.
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>>183609867
knight has a massive unnecessary vitality investment and points in dex clerics usually don't use
i kinda dislike 24att for caster builds too, especially if you're gonna use healing miracles
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>>183609767
opposite of sulyvahn's gate, drop on the platform above the lightning gem
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>>183609904
>they're ass in 2
I'll fucking fite you m8, the halberd movesets in DaS2 were sexy as hell, and sweet-spotting with them was rewarding as hell.
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>>183609767
go to the pontiff bonfire, backtrack and then jump down on the altar near the 2 pontiff knights and the stake witch
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>>183609904
>splitleaf and crucifix are virtually one of the top dogs of ds3
>lucerne is actually useful unlike ds1
>thrust halberd don't have awkward miss animation and are unparriable at the tip
i do agree that ds2 ones were abhorrent but in ds3 it's one of the best classes in the game
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>wave hello and drop an item
>host breaks out the r1
>against a twink with a malformed skull
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>>183608907
It's mostly a holdover from before I was using the Leo Warpick.

It always served me pretty well chipping shields, and there's enough water in the lower Demon Ruins that I still find it useful. Also the lake in Irithyll. Nothing quite like a ganksquad following you into the water and then learning the definition of shock tactics.

Fair point, though. I should really go and upgrade my heavy crossbow, but I'm lazy.
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>>183607528
>>183609904
Git gud
One of the best Weapon Class in 3.
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>>183608543 >>183608674
Farron Flashsword does benefit from pontif's eye ring
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>>183609226
Man remind me to kill all slugs I see from now on

Also, rope firebombs are actually pretty good. Nothing quite like seeing you use a rope firebomb to make a katana runspammer reconsider chasing you.
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>>183610101

VIT is never unnecessary for a miracle build, one of their strongest upsides is their ability to trade, for which you want armour to soak up damage that much more. and 12 minimum dex is by no means massively unnecessary, as it allows you to equip the best melee weapon a pure FAI build could ask for: The Sunlight Straight Sword. Decent damage, a buff WA to save room that sacred oath would otherwise take up, buffable, has the R2 poke

Now, the 24 ATT on a pure caster is of course a little low, but the situation I was describing that stat layout for was for a more melee oriented buff build, where 24 is actually much higher than necessary. On a knight going for a pure FAI build, 30 to 40 ATT is easily obtained without sacrificing defense or even that much health
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>>183610214
Other than Syan's they're the same boring Scythe shit, nothing but chops and spins. They're not fun or rewarding.

>>183610312
>>183610369
Zero webms of them being used
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>>183610105
>>183610278
Thanks!
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>>183610334
I know that feel

>Wave to lone host
>Go into inventory to switch to a less twinky weapon
>Host running attacks me
>Close out of menu and curbstomp host

Like I get that most hosts are shitters who think invaders are worse than hitler, but jesus
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>>183610434
Interesting.
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>>183610907
>>183610334
I can just never get myself to kill shitty hosts, even when they try to fight.
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What are the soft caps for vigor? I'm just curious if the wiki is accurate.
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>>183611308
you need to get used to it senpai, shit happens

>>183610907
they get two chances with me, on the third hit they get their shit stomped and no rewards for being nice
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>>183606379
>>183605001
The webm is an exaggeration, you're only limited to 4 directions while doing an edgy slowwalk at absolute minimum speed. If you're coming from another Souls game you'll certainly feel the difference in the movement, but after playing for a while on DS2 you'll stop noticing it.

Other differences like the limitations on turning when cancelling into an attack, are deliberate gameplay decisions which you have to play around. Those add some depth to weapon play because different attacks or weapons allow different amounts of turning. DS2 is probably the only Souls game where you can justify using the R2 on a 2H curved sword as a result.
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Are there some kind of auto seperation on the XBone? I hit two guys in a fight club and they auto sent home after triggering tears

Also should you be embered for fight clubs?
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>>183611680
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>(You need to summon her to Soul of Cinder boss fight and she must survive)
Is the wiki full of shit?
Please tell me it is because NPCs suck dick at this game
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>>183610434
neat thank you
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I'm making a low-level strongman build (using a variety of ultra-heavy weapons), to handle the Undead Settlement since my SL1 +1 build and SL30 +3 builds can't really get much action there.

I was planning on taking him to SL20 +2, which allows me to use most high-strength weapons as Warrior with 27 str, 10 dex and 25 vig with the prisoner's chain. However, aside from the weapons I truly can't reasonably get in this range (Morne's Hammer, RKPG, Ledo's, Giant Door Shield) I am still missing out on Smough's Hammer with its 45 str requirement and the FUGS with 50. I can technically go up to 34 str so I can use both of these but that'll leave me with only 19 vig for about 750 hp even with life/FAP.

So, is this at least acceptable health for this range if I'm planning on winning every trade by a landslide? Is it not, but can I reasonably go a bit higher, to 22-25 for more vig? Or should I just give up on either those weapons or on having a very viable build?
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>summon one guy for a 1v1 at pontiff

>throw charms and chug
>get stomped

Is this a common occurrence?
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>>183611308
If somebody is coming at me with a shield of want and straightsword R1 spam, I back off whenever I knock them low or riposte them so that they can heal, and I use an I'm Sorry carving.

It's basically me trying to tell them 'Don't do that, you can't win that way'

Then they run out of estus and die because they keep doing it, most of the time. If they stop being shitters, or at least try to stop being shitters, I drop a Very Good carving, but I worry that they're going to take it as sarcasm and go back to their shitter ways.

I don't really invade to dumpster lone hosts who don't know how to play the game. When it happens, my teaching instinct comes out.
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>>183612385
You'd be a glass cannon. It's probably not worth it.

Just bust out the borthammer and spiked mace. Cathedral GS is also a great option, as is Yhorme's
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It's happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3_WiNow_gE
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Anyone got a few minutes to spare? I need help trading a few things from my main to an alt for a Yuria cosplay. I'm on PC.
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>>183614493
Just CE, friend. It's the primary reason people don't mule on PC.
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>>183614493
What are you trading? I have a NG+2 character with all the fashion and most of the rings, I could probably just outright drop you the stuff you need.
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>>183614143
Dang that project is moving really fast.
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>>183614716
I need a qt gf, you have that in your inventory?
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>>183614143
You need to dump the PS3 bios for that emulator to work, right? I'll probably find a pirated version out there anyways since I'm pretty sure you need to buy some special cables to dump it onto your PC anyways.
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>>183614143
So, if I'm getting this right, they're slowly figuring out how to run it on lower specs? Because afaik subsequent videos listed lower frequencies. I could run it but it took all of my processing power to hit 15 fps max
>>183614493
cheating your stuff in is no less legit that muling them. Especially since you can back up saves and therefore don't really lose them from the other char
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>>183614936
nope, you can just download it from their site
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OPERATION TEARS OF DENIAL: /dsg/ Soul Revival Event

Throughout the month of August a revival event will be held each week for every PC Souls game. /dsg/ players will spend their time doing fight clubs, co-op, invasions any any other online activity in each to give one last hurrah for the series. Console players are also free to get involved or do runs on Demon's Souls and Bloodborne during this time.

This will start on the first week of August for Dark Souls 1, then going on to Dark Souls 2: SOTFS in week 2 and finally ending with Dark Souls 3 at week 3. The fourth week of the month will conclude with a /dsg/ tournament in one of the Souls games to be decided by strawpoll in the thread at a future date.
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>>183614870
I have a healslut waifu character, but if you just need Karla's set I could drop that for you, it'd be faster than muling.
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holy shit deacons of the deep is no joke on a magic only playthrough
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>>183614716
Oh. awesome, I just need Karla's set and a pyromancy flame. I'm at the high wall bonfire, the password is dsg.
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>>183615367
>Walk to centre
>Poisecast Divine Pillars of Light, or just regular cast Chaos Storm
>Everything dies
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>>183614713
>>183615014
Can't you get banned for using CE though?
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>>183615367
storyteller's staff and pestilent mercury
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It just occurred to me that 3 may be the end of the DS series but isn't that only logical as the
cycle has ended following the end of the Flame and now we can see the world spring up again from nothing to be a brand new world full of wonders and weirdness and death and we just play as some respawning being of infinite murder hunger for all time in an attempt to satisfy our need for more Souls games?
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>>183615490
Sign is down, friend.
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>>183615692
>>183615746
He's probably on NG which means he doesn't have access to those except mercury.

Mercury is beastly though, especially against slow-moving bosses like deacons.
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>>183615827
Should've been clear with AoA. Ariandel is Miyazaki, the Painting is the franchise, Friede is Bamco
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>>183615746
didn't have the int to use anything higher than farron flashsword so i ended up having to run to the dlc and pick up snap freeze instead, worked pretty well since they clump up a lot

>>183615692
i meant sorcery only
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>tfw no UGS that casts spells
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>>183616031
You get access to everything but pillars before Irithyll
>>183615710
Yes, but itemswapping is safe. Drop a throwing knife, pick up the item you want. 100% safe, been doing it for months. I would avoid doing it with anything that you might not see if dropped by other players (weapons above your memory, upgrade mats, covenant items). I've actually spawned everything but upgrade mats and haven't been banned, but still I get a bit sweaty when the notifications take long to pop up
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>>183616031
Pillars of Light is the only one out of that set unavailable to him if he's at Deacons. Storyteller's Staff drops from the priest corvians, Chaos Storm is learned from a scroll in Smouldering Lake which can be given to Cornyx.

>>183615367
If you haven't been to Rosaria's room yet you can go to Patches and buy Alluring Skulls from him, they trivialize the boss completely.
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>>183616373

Are you blind? Each and every one of them casts a slow, easily avoided but reasonably powerful spell called "biff"
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>>183615710
As long as you don't go full retard the chance is basically nil.

General rules:
Don't CE in key items, estus/bone shards, or ashes, no matter what
Don't CE in covenant items
Don't CE in DLC items if you don't own the DLC
Don't CE shit in before getting to the High Wall
Don't use CE scripts while online
Dropswap, don't directly spawn items

Items that are okay to dropswap:
Weapons (Except Storm Ruler)
Armour
Consumables
Rings
Spells
Infusion Gems

Note: Using CE to dropswap upgrade materials in is VERY iffy. It's easier just to use the script to make upgrading cost nothing, which is virtually 100% safe.

Following these rules, I have geared about ten invaders with DLC weapons, +3 rings, /fa/ armour, spells like lightning arrow, sunlight spear, soul stream and great soul dregs, and enough consumable souls to level up to my intended target, as well as buy every consumable I'd ever need when I need them (Purely because giving myself 99 large crestfallen knight and venerable old hand souls is easier than giving myself 600 of a bunch of different items). Also Siegbrau for when I really feel like being cancer.
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>>183616373
>tfw no blue flame

Why is Cleric's Candlestick so bad

It makes me want to cry
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>>183616879
>>183616373

>tfw no gold/brass colored mace
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>makeup is the only difference between a reasonably cute goth girl and a 60-year old asian woman
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>>183616373
Castrating spells was Fromsofts best decision.
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Values of the old table are still accurate.
updating the whole table is gonna take a while tho.

any suggestions/corrections?
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>>183618015
You're a good person for doing this
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>>183617824
>reasonably cute
hohoho no. But at least it's true that only the eyeliner changes. Or if something else does change, it's slight. Meanwhile
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Why do people pvp with straight sword :(
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>>183618803
Straight sword is fine in pvp, what's wrong with it?
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>>183618015
Caitha's and Sunless for Miracle buffs, and Parting Flame for Carthus Flame Arc?
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Did anyone else find the deserted firelink shrine in Unkept Graveyard, spooky?

It just felt unnerving, everything exactly the same but everyone gone or dead. I like it.

What's the Lore there?
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>>183619074
Caitha and Sunless are misleading. The int scaling only applies to dark miracles, which are fucking garbage.
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>just learned how the rat covenant and all the traps work in Doors of Pharros
Heck this is pretty cool, and I'm actually getting a summon every few minutes. Too bad the other area probably is nowhere near as active.
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>>183619632
you go back in time except its in the same time and gundyr was meant to be you
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>>183619659
Yeah, I know. But it'd be good for illustrating that Dark Blade does not benefit from the Int scaling.
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>>183618803
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>>183619632
no one could beat champion gundyr, hence the name, so no one could link the flame so the world fell into darkness. still not sure whether its in the past, future or a different timeline.
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Why does fromsoftware punish invaders? Like there is no point invading if there is almost at least 2 or 3 enemies. It doesnt help that literally any attack, whether its melee or not, staggers you since poise is non existent.

Ds3 loves the player who only play CO-Op.
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>>183618869
not very interesting to fight
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>>183619632
Gundyr was supposed to Link the Fire, but he arrived too late and an Age of Dark settled in.

You arrive and beat Champ.

Ludleth uses some sort of wizardry to Link the Fire and revive the Age of Fire.

Champ becomes Iudex.

You wake up and beat Iudex.
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>>183619974
>poise is non existent
Have you actually tried using a ugs or gs?
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>>183619974
because you had too much fun in ds1
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Does anyone get a good ending in DS3?
All I can think of is Patches and the priest cripple who you make a fire keeper
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>>183619974
>It doesnt help that literally any attack, whether its melee or not, staggers you since poise is non existent.
t. buttblasted babby who doesn't understand how hyperarmor works.
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>>183620335
painter girl
maybe ashen one + firekeeper
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>>183619074
Weapon buffs AR is directly proportional to the spellbuff
Parting Flame is worse for Carthus Flame Arc because of this
Caitha's and Sunless miracle buffs scale only from Fai but at a lesser % of their spellbuff for some reason

I'll add a note section at the end
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>>183620208
>>183619930
>>183619759
So its just a bit of a mindfuck? Awesome
Any ideas why the old broad is still alive then?

Where the hell do you guys find out about the story like that
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>>183619697
The ratbros in DS2 were yet another example of great idea but a poor execution.

The ratbros areas should've been one combined medium sized area instead of two tiny areas because in the Grave of Saints one you can just run one short corridor to the boss and in Doors of Pharros the rest of the area doesn't even matter because you will be ganked in the beginning and since you don't even get penalized in any way there's no reason to go look for the host if he's not in the initial gangbang.

The bellbongs were this way too. Kinda cool idea but if these dwarf fucks don't want anyone to ring their bell then why is the only way to open the door out of the area to ring that fucking bell?
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Just started a sorcerer build for the first time.

Is sorcerer staff or heretic staff better?
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>>183619974
The invader is supposed to be at a disadvantage, quit whining about it and get good. You aren't supposed to be able to win easily, and you aren't supposed to go into it expecting duels.

If you want to invade, and more to the point, if you want to enjoy invading, you need to learn how to effectively deal with 2v1 fights. Use the area. Don't cede control. Don't let them have a level playing field, because a level playing gets you fucking destroyed. If they're being cancer, become an even greater cancer. If you can't kill the host, make the host want to kill themselves.

I have about a thousand pale tongues across five or so characters. I'm pretty okay at invading, I'd say. Point is, you don't get to be a good invader by playing fair when the deck is stacked from the start, you blithering idiot.

Also learn how poise actually works, maybe. I'm amazed there are still people who don't get it.
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>>183620335
The End of Fire is arguably the best ending all around, discounting endings from DeS and BB.
In 1, whether you Link the Fire or cause and Age of Dark, you're someone's bitch. Either you serve the Gods, or you act as Kaathe's puppet while lording over the other Primordial Serpents.
In 2, Taking the Throne is again following the Gods. The Aldia ending allowed for a small silver lining with the possibility of a third path, beyond light and dark, but neither Aldia nor BotC had the means to find such a path.
In 3, we get repeats. Linking the Fire is again playing by the God's rules, while Usurpation is indirectly serving Kaathe again. Yuria is a servant of Kaathe, and considering that she's established you as her puppet (her sending you after Orbeck was to determine your loyalty to her), you're the puppet's puppet. In End of Fire, humans are fully in charge without anyone else on top. The Fire Keeper, probably the only person who knows what to properly do with the First Flame, has it now, and can allow an easier time searching for the third way Aldia desired.
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>>183620381
>works
It doesnt. You think its a good system? You are wearing full havels and a single hit from a fucking rat staggers you. Its a horrible system.

Only gankers love hyper armour.
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are we ever getting another fucking patch, or did from just say fuck you
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>>183620335
Ashen One and his waifu, sitting together as the dark settles.
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>>183620208
how are you able to go back in time though? its just a hidden wall past ociris's consumed garden.
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>>183620335
>>183611680
Only the Ashen One
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>repeating crossbow will never be good
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>>183621070
It's the past relatively to firelink/cemetery of ash. Who's to say the CoA is in the same timeline as the rest of Lothric?
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>>183620879

Heretic up until 40 INT or something I think. Storyteller is good for easy kills in PvP if you can get it
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>>183620892
>The invader is supposed to be at a disadvantage
Because?

>deal with 2v1 fights. Use the area. Don't cede control.
Blah blah blah. I win most of the 2 or 3 v 1's. Most of the time its because I get an easy parry. Its not satisfying, its just cheesy.

There is no point in being in such a disadvantage.

The invader has
>less health
>most of the time lower lovel
>less estus
>more enemies against
>the host can summon unlimited amount of friendly spirits
>the host can communicate with his team mates.
etc.
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>>183620879
Heretic is ultimately the best at 40 Int. If you intend to hit 60, get Court Sorcerer's Staff.
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did we EVER figure out what the deal was with occult weapons in dark souls?
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>>183620587
>any idea why the old broad is still alive then?
>where do you guys get all this information
By talking to NPCs? The merchant lady says she's undead when you talk to her the first time.

>>183619974
>Why does Fromsoft punish invaders?
They work on the(mostly correct) assumption that the invader is a more experienced player who will use the levels to their advantage and thus can rely on the experience to be an obstacle for the host and possible phantoms.

The problem are invaders who are either duelfags and expect a fair fight or are showoffs who want to be stylish at the cost of effectiveness and then get rekt OR the people who used to twink in DS1 / DeS and get BTFO'd in DS3 because they can't get the gear advantage over the host like they used to have.
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>>183621309
The invader is supposed to be at a disadvantage because you're playing as a challenge for the host. That's the point.

Honestly, if you're still bitching about muh invasions after the Giant Seed nerf, you need to just kill yourself because you're a disgrace to all the reds who know they're at a disadvantage and deal with it.
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>>183621239
im not sure what CoA stands for but isnt there also a theory that the normal firelink shrine is in the future and youre getting sent into the past when you teleport to the high wall of lothric?
id love to see somekind of diagram explaining all the time traveling and timeline of events.
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>>183620906
If you refuse to adapt to the new mechanics, then you've just proven yourself to be a shitter who whines about things he doesn't like or understand.

>>183621309
Case in point. You just want to whine about things not going exactly the way you like, instead of bucking up and getting better.
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>>183621309
>I need a hornet ring parry to win invasions

you chose the easy route, nigger, and you're STILL bitching about invading being too hard?

git gud, it's not supposed to be structured pvp. you sound like a duelfag right now.
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>>183621598
>The invader is supposed to be at a disadvantage because you're playing as a challenge for the host. That's the point.
Source?

I deal with it. im just saying its broken and a horrible system that panders weak players. 9/10 times the matches are just f1 spamming noobs. Killing them is just boring.
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>>183621671

Cemetery
of
Ash
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>>183621364
Dark infusion in a game with no dark damage type. If you mean lorewise, probably Velka did it
>>183621671
That's exactly what I was implying. And how do you miss mentioning CoA right before that?
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>>183621554
>The problem are invaders who are either duelfags and expect a fair fight or are showoffs who want to be stylish at the cost of effectiveness and then get rekt OR the people who used to twink in DS1 / DeS and get BTFO'd in DS3 because they can't get the gear advantage over the host like they used to have.

DING DING DING, ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

Invaders in DaS3 need to actually be good at the game. They can't just overlevel or overgear and dance all over the host and his phantoms with an insurmountable advantage.
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>>183621671
CoA is Cemetary of Ash i.e the starting area.

>>183621364
I think it was a rebel group going against the gods and considering we find the occult club in the same stash with Havel's Armor, it might be that Havel might have been part of it and locked into the tower for this treason.
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>>183621364
Not really. It was probably just some experimental thing that resulted from the "church"'s research or some shit, but all the lore in DaS1 is muddled and bullshit and contradicted by the next two games anyways. For instance, one is supposed to infer from item descriptions in DaS1 that Ariamis is a prison designed to exile creatures and things that don't belong in the normal world, yet in DaS3 it's established that Ariandel is meant to serve as a home for those who lost their own.

>>183621239
>>183621671
That's complete bullshit. The Firelink that is your hub is in the same time as the Lothric that you travel through. If Firelink were in the future, then it should already be in an eclipse state, since that begins in Lothric after you beat your first three Lords of Cinder.
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>>183621767
If the players are so weak, then it's your job as an invader to show them that. If you aren't enjoying doing it, then stop.

Like, what do you actually want out of invasions? Do you just want to invade a solo host and stomp all over them for giggles? Because they sounds like it would be even more boring for you, being the manly adonis of invading you claim to already be.

Or you could stop being a little bitch.
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>>183622095
I honestly don't think we ever see the actual Havel. All of his soldiers were equipped with his Set, Shield, Ring, and apparently the Dragon Tooth, given the armaments of his "appearances" across all three games. The one in 2 was called an ancient soldier, maybe one of Havel's soldiers. The guy in DaS could have been just that.
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>>183622532
I think the DaS3 Havel is actually Havel.
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>>183622332
>For instance, one is supposed to infer from item descriptions in DaS1 that Ariamis is a prison designed to exile creatures and things that don't belong in the normal world, yet in DaS3 it's established that Ariandel is meant to serve as a home for those who lost their own.
This sounds like it was an idea that got twisted over time into what it is now in Ariandel. Ariamis was a prison for the unwanted, and then when the gods were gone the painting became a welcoming home for those types of people.
Doesn't seem too contradictory to me
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>>183622607
You might not be far off, considering that Great Magic Barrier, an old miracle of Havel's, is found at Archdragon Peak. But what's still confusing me is why the regular Havel's Ring is earned through the Soul of a Stray Demon. The +1 is at Archdragon Peak, logical, +2 at Anor Londo, again logical, and +3 near Ledo in TRC, who was a friend of Havel and probably would have gotten his hands on one.
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>>183622332
Priscilla treats it more as a home for the forlorn, anyway. The theme is established, even if it is at odds with itself.

Prison isn't mutually exclusive with home, after all.
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>>183622532
>>183622607

DS1 was not made with DS2 and 3 in mind. I personally consider the DS1 appearance Havel himself but it's never explicitly stated so people can interpret it however they like.
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>2 unexplored areas I can't enter because curse build up and unkillable enemies
>one boss that can't be killed because he gets healed

what

I've explored every crevasse like 5 times, what am I missing? Is this just some famous DaS2 level design where I'm forced to go get cursed in those areas?
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>>183622618
>Ariamis is a prison
The exit is right behind the "main" prisoner and the guardians are looking away from the painting, not towards it. They're protectors, not gaolers. The painting has always been a sanctuary to the forlorn and the unwanted
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>>183623124
You need to insert Smelter wedges into Ashen idols to stop the curse / destroy the Warmth they are emitting to buff the boss. There is also a helmet that makes you immune to curse.
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What are some good Dark weapons?
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>>183623124
>>183623334

And if you wonder what the Ashen Idols look like, you can see them on the outside of Fume Knight bossroom and they make a very distinct noise. You can find a bunch of smelter wedges immediately when you arrive into the dlc.
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>>183589672
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>>183623334
>>183623520

I already used all that I found.
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>>183623124
You can restock your Smelter Wedges in a part of the level. All you need to do is leave one Ashen Idol alive before the boss so that you have enough to kill all four surrounding the arena.
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>>183623578
There are more somewhere in the DLC but I don't know exactly where because I have never played it lol.
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>there are people who actually like ds3 invasions
Lmao.
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>>183623536
saved
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>>183557670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3_WiNow_gE
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>kill hosts both summons
>host escapes
>the game automatically finds him a blue that has full estus and hp
"NO NO THE INVASION SYSTEM IS TOTALLY WORKING :)! G-GIIT G-GUD!"
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>>183624365
>host almost dead
>he disconnects
>he wont get banned doing this
NONO ITS A GREAT SYSTEM YOU GOTTA HACK HIS NETWORK YOU SCRUB ;D
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Any tips for The Lothric lads?
The first phase is pointlessly easy but I just can't beat his second form
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>>183624365
Blues are literally free estus

You really should git gud
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>>183624736
You actually cared about that pale tongue?

A disconnect is a victory
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>>183624759
dodge and hit and dodge then hit again
or summon
Check for weakness in the wiki, I think lightning will do
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>>183624871
There is no need to get good in ds3. Its made for scrubs. Easiest PvE in the series.
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>>183625039
Which is why we invade

To make hosts remember that they fear death
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>>183622332
the firelink that is your hub is separate from the rest of the game since the red sky that appears after killing the lords of cinder does not appear at firelink
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>>183624948
Sure, but DCs don't buy you the Obscuring Ring
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>>183610334
>invader spawns in
>he immediately goes to enchant his weapon
>I wave at him while I'm waiting
>he runs over and spams r2

this game attracts the both kindest and the worst people
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>>183624365
>>183624736
>>183625039
Cringey butthurt Spastic
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>>183625039
>Easiest PvE in the series.
that's ds2 with its infinite lifegems and overpowered blunt damage
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>>183610434
>no FP consumed
quit cheating fag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0n_9gM3DCc

Defend this, DaS2DF
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>>183625223
I guess

It's only 10 tongues though
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>>183621062
>not stepping on her
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>>183624759
Stay close to them and roll into Lorian to attack Lothric.

Roll twice when Lorian does his giant wave attack.
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>>183625449
>infinite lifegems
Yeah and your infinite estus too, right?
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>>183625718
How can somebody watch these obnoxious sub humans with their numale voice commentary
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>>183623536
fucking great haha

saved
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>the 10 Lightning Winged Spear is better than the fully upgraded Dragonslayer Spear
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>>183625718
bad analog stick
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>>183625845
i can't stack 99x3 estus at one time
as far as pve content goes, ds2 allows you to overheal anything and everything given that basic lifegems cost like 300 per piece and drop like candy which is laughable
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>>183625814
DO NOT BULLY THE FIREKEEPER
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>>183625992
>implying you'll find three full stacks worth of lifegems in the PvE
You won't even find one. And please don't tell me you're one of those retards that BUYS lifegems.
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>>183625443
Said the CO-OP redditor.
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>>183626203
buying lifegems have zero penalty as far as pve goes
it's beyond cheap, any retard can do it and you won't do shit to stop them
there's not a single moment at which you actually need to consider your healing options in ds2, you always have a shitload of lifegems, this makes me laugh every time i hear anything about "careful preparation" and "planning" ds2 has going on for it
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Do you pronounce it

Rick Card
or
Rikkerd
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>backstabbed mid call to stone

wat
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>People who use Curved Swords unironically
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>>183625816
>>183624979
Thanks guys :- turned to easy mode.

I did a weird thing where I critted him, never seen it before but it was sick
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>>183625718

Literally DeS tier lock on.
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>>183626462
The 'planning' is about when to perform ANY action, especially healing. Healing in 2 is the slowest, so you have to find the perfect opportunity to heal. It actually takes though.
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>>183625117
actually now that i think about it this doesn't make sense since greirat mentions hearing the bell toll that awakens the player when you first find him in his cell

fuck man why do they feel the need to shove this stupid time travel shit into a medieval dark fantasy game, at least das 1 & 2 did it properly
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>>183626520
Like retard but with a k
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>>183626520
Rick-ard
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>>183625940
>Faith build
>Not just using Saint's Bident

?????????? lmao k
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>>183626768
>not using carthus cancer sword
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>>183625039
>easiest PvE in the series
The one you played last is always going to be the easiest for the most part because a lot of the mechanics are consistent across the series.
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>>183625940
Lightning infusion is for FTH builds. DSS is a quality weapon with laughably FTH scaling due to the low lightning damage.
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>>183626980
wrong game faggot
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>>183626837
nothing in ds2 is fast enough to give you any troubles with healing attempts unless you have brain damage and can't see easily telegraphed attacks of the worst animated enemies in the entire franchies
doesn't help that lifegems stack up to 4 fucking times as far as their regen goes which is absolutely ridiculous
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>>183625718
omg I love ENB's laugh. It's so fucking cute, omg <3

10/10 would hold his hand, and gently snuggle with him, even resting my head on his shoulder and tell him i love him.
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>>183627110
>Heide Knights
>Archmage Knights
>Old Knights / Drake Keepers
>Stone Knights
>Llewellyn Knights
>Wharf mutants
>dogs
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>>183627110
This
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WHY is the regular Longsword ranked higher than the Sunlight SS?
>Has a selfbuff
>Can be buffed even further with CMW/DMB/SB
>Same moveset, but higher damage

I literally don't get it.

Even for Quality builds, the measly 16 points in faith is totally worth it for the self buff.
Self buff + Resin >> Longsword any day.
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>>183627301
all of those are slow as shit with the exception of dogs and those are poised through even by mediup armor
no enemy in this game can deal with backpedalling and you can use lifegems while backpedalling too
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>>183626890
Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's dumb.

DaS1 shoved the whole "hurr time is constipated!"-stuff in our faces but neither DaS1 or 2 did anything meaningful with it. Meanwhile Dark Souls 3 actually makes use of the whole time travel system properly.
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>>183625087
I have nothing against people who need to fight a boss solo with embered health but if you're using it as a crutch to get through the area I'm going to put a stop to it.
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>>183627465

Because the longsword has a WA that acts as both a guard break and a high damage thrust type attack with high range and poise?
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>>183627518
>poised through even by mediup armor
Why must you lie on the internet.
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>>183627176
go back to streaming, enb, stop shitposting here
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>>183627465
Stance WA while Sunlight SS WA is useless in PvP, plus Longsword can be infused elementally which is incredibly useful on Crystal/Dark infusion.
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>>183627665
play into the actual game instead of posting here
poise works quite well in ds2's pve which is yet another of its problems as it trivialises an already pitifully easy pve
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>>183625984
this

that or jiggling the mouse on accident
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>>183610434
Is pontif's eye ring even worth
It takes one slot for shit damage
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How does the Reddit exploit work? When are you supposed to Alt + F4?
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>>183626520
Like "Picard" but with an R.
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>>183627882
>implying DS2's poise is any different from DS3's
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>>183627976
it's actually different, especially for how it works in pve
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>>183627935
When you revive and start gloving you have a few seconds before the menu appears again
This is when you f4
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>>183627935
Before exiting the menu. If you're changing your face, you need to save it to favorites before Alt+F4ing
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>>183628109
This is false. As long as you don't exit the covenant services menu, you can Alt+F4 whenever you want.
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>>183628250
Ah ok my bad
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>>183627176
That image comes up among the first ones when googling him.
Serious question though, considering he's divorced why doesn't he go to town on his lady fans? There's bound to be some lookers in the bunch they can't ALL be overweight social rejects and trannies, right?I mean, it worked for Spoony and he's a deadbeat loser who can't work due to a heart condition.

>>183627749
By my calculations he will stream again in 20 hours.
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>>183628341
Why do people like you still want to live, your existence disgusts most people.
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>>183627541
I do understand it, it doesn't make logical sense and falls back on a handwavey non-line in dark souls 1 that was used to justify the games pvp.

Untended Graves can't logically be in the present so it has to be in the past or the future, since there's evidence to suggest that its in the past (Shrine Handmaiden dialogue, Gundyr lore etc) we'll assume its in the past. The only way this would make sense would be if the Cemetery of Ash was separate from the rest of the game, however this can't be the case either since Greirat hears the bell toll from the High Wall, meaning Cemetery of Ash is in the same timeline as the High Wall we teleport to at the start of the game. This doesn't make logical sense since traversing through the High Wall will put us out at Untended Graves, which is literally defined lore why by the absence of any bell tolling.

What haven't I understood here? The game just doesn't make sense.

Just want to point out that this is an Iron Keep tier blunder in terms of level connectivity but once again it's okay when Miyizaki does it.
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>>183628489
>why do you still want to live?
>your existence disgusts most people
Your question already contained the answer
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Pyromancer here
if I want to carry a talisman just to cast great heal, does it matter which is it?
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>>183628628
>lore why

*lore wise
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>>183627565
You understand

You're my nigga
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>>183628827
Canvas Talisman if you want to poise cast with it, Crystal Chime if not.
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wait a bloody second, since when poison is 7 damage per tick instead of 3?
this makes ultra low-level assholery even better
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>>183628827
White Hair Talisman casts Pyros AND Miracles.
>tfw no Pyro+Sorc catalyst
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>>183629235
>>183629332
I see, thanks
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>>183628628
>however this can't be the case since Greirat hears the bell toll from the High Wall

It very well can since there is no telling how much time passed between the bell tolling and us talking to Greirat. He could've been in that cell for a hundred years for all we know.

And the sky in the Firelink is blue while in High Wall it's this sickly kind of yellow which suggests that the fire is fading. It's also worth noting how the darksign sky gets updated into skyboxes near the High Wall except Irithyll, ADP or Firelink. In Archdragon Peak the sun is shining so it must be really "early" in the timeline all things considering.

I think that the corridor between Oceiros and Untended graves is some kind of a time portal as well, perhaps used by the Queen of Lothric to go out and sneak into Untended Graves to drop goodies for future Ashen Ones.
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>>183629332
White Hair Talisman also has absolute shit for scaling.
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>>183627565
>having your full health is considered a "crutch" now
???
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>>183629332
The fail lady talisman is as trash as the originator
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>>183565928
what the hell are you talking about? I beat him on my second try and all the enemies you have to run past to get to him are easy to avoid and out run.
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>>183629235
>>183629332
and what to use for offensive spells?
since I got 30/30 I thought maybe I could start using some miracles or sorceries in the mix
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>>183630346
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>>183630509
Homing Soulmass, Great Farron Dart and Lightning Arrow are your best picks. You have plenty of great offensive spells for pyro already so those are the only non-pyros it would be worth it to equip.
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>>183630541
Did we find out what happened to Knight Kirk?
Poor fucker probably killed himself in desperation after he found out what they did to his waifu in 3.
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>>183630853
I was hoping he'd return with 3, considering there's a new monster waifu to serve. Maybe he got beaten by the fate of the Fair Lady, or by how weak Kirk is compared to his counterpart in 1. Three invasions in 1, and one in 3? His character just became another reference.
Then again, all the Fingers are references to other games. Kirk is DaS, Heysel is DeS, Creighton is DaS2, and Leonhard is BB.
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>>183630674
thanks anon, maybe I can catch a nerd or two by surprise q
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>>183623483
Strength/Fai heavy dark sword with dark weapon buff , or king halberd.
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>>183631108
Kirk was already gone when I returned from my after-DS2 hiatus. It's crazy to miss tripfags but I miss some of the namefags and tripfags. I remember the good times when we all piled on Bigmoose1985 for 'moosing it up', the fc shittalking, Ippiki9, shy cass and the rest of the merry faggot gang.
Heck, one of the reasons I don't mind Lucifer is because he reminds me of the good times :_; . He's still a faggot, but he's OUR faggot.
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>>183631815
I think our faggot finally got sick of us and left us. He hasn't been seen on /bbg/ either, so maybe he took permanent residence elsewhere. Not our problem anymore.
I think Kirk just woke up one day and realized that he was up to his tits in a shit pit, reevaluated his life and choices, and called it quits. All the better for his mental health, undoubtedly.
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>Get summoned at Pontiff
>Host immediately chugs after first hit
>Run him out of estus
>Jumps off edge

Why do people do this?
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>>183632285
I'm honestly sort of surprised that with all the bullshit heaped on us in TRC, we never saw another one of those doggos.
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>>183632450
My world
My rules
;)
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>>183632450
If you didn't land the killing blow, you didn't win :^)
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>>183632241
The fighting game faggotry tournament shit is up so I think he's in /tekgen/ or shitposting about fightan games now.

But as far as Kirk quitting? I don't see that happening, his autism is too strong. Maybe he found a new waifu to obsess over in another videogame or anime or something. Or maybe he got committed to a psych ward or something.
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>>183632517
well they are sullyvahns shit so it would be too retarded to put them in TRC
I mean, I can excuse the Dragonslayer armor as a way to let you get it but that would be ridiculous
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>>183632935
I hope he found somewhere else to go, with a new waifu and people like him to worship said waifu.
Or he got professional help, it sounded like he needed it.
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So if I'm 20+2 range what can I take twinkling and titanite scale weapons to? Is +1 safe?
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NEXT SOULSLIKE WHEN
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>>183632641
>>183632647
I'm just wondering why they want to 1v1 on uneven terms like host estus vs. summon estus
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>host summons 3 (three) phantoms for midir
>they go for the back legs
looks like we're in for the long haul, lads
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>>183633304
Yes, +1 on those is the equivalent of +2 of regular Titanite
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>>183633356
>host summons me and 2 npc phantoms for the demon prince fight
>they kill the demon from below first
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>>183633316
https://www.bandainamcoent.com/games/code-vein
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>>183633356
>helping randoms
The only reason you should ever do this is for the Sunbro medals, and there are numerous easier bosses to get them on.
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>>183633330
>>183632647
>>183632641
Again

Shitty fatrolling host uses soul arrow as his only spell and chugs immediately, never gets a hit off

How do they even hear about irithyll being a place to pvp yet have no idea how to pvp/the general guidelines for summons?
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>>183633316
*C R I N G E*
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DeS CE tables when?
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>>183633841
?
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God damnit. WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING, WHY THE FUCK DID YOU HAVE TO TEMPT FATE?
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>>183633809
i like to help people
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How do you EVER beat someone with a spear as a Ledo user?
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>>183634059
The mere mention of the name, if you're referring to what I think you are.
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>>183633943
I can't find any DaS2 CE table that lets you alter your character's body proportions. Is that being used in that webm or is that just a very large character?
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>>183633416
Thanks anon
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>>183634501
>>183634501
>>183634501
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>>183634403

There used to be one.
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Just finished an hour long invasion, host summoned 4 phantoms throughout and I killed them all. So much hiding, so much searching. But I found him, eventually. Some purple tried to "help", but he died too. They all did. God, that was better than sex.
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>>183575135
It matches pretty well with the Dark set, given that they're both strongly related to the Abyss. Of course, that's going to make you look like a huge edgelord, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I also think the Ringed Knight Leggings are decent for mixing and matching with.
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>>183632517
I was expecting to see one in the Dreg Heap
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>>183626520
rickar
silent d, it's a french last name
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>>183633316
Code Vein, seems like

There is also the as-yet unnamed new IP which was described as a 'gloomy RPG'.
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